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Hi from #modreqs

[General]

Kat is best for piano.

[Futsuu]

00:01:453 (1,1,2,1,1,1,2) - Make these kat, sounds a lot better.
00:01:453 (1,1,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2) - All should be kat in case I forgot. Don sounds like a drum kick, something that doesn't match piano keys.
00:50:660 (6,7) - I notice that you only use 1/2 dd or kk, but dk fits drum sounds much much more and its still ok for futsuu so maybe change it to dk? (´・ω・`) dk is too hard in Futsuu
I test played with it and it's fine with the patterns you already have. It also brings the mood up and sets the emotion for the kiai time. It's up to you if you want to add it though.

I don't have any problems with the rest of the map. :v

[Muzukashii]
00:01:453 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1) - Make kat please. Don sounds awkward with primary piano intro.
As far as the rest, I have no idea.

[Generalized end]
From 00:01:453 to 00:13:068 there is nothing but piano. Don't use don for piano please. :v

Clueless mod is clueless.
Topic Starter
ReySHeL

drum drum wrote:

Hi from #modreqs

[General]

Kat is best for piano.

[Futsuu]

00:01:453 (1,1,2,1,1,1,2) - Make these kat, sounds a lot better. no change. 00:04:379 (4) - 00:05:843 (1) - piano is high than 00:01:453 (1) - 00:02:916 (2) - please listen to the piano accompaniment
00:01:453 (1,1,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2) - All should be kat in case I forgot. Don sounds like a drum kick, something that doesn't match piano keys.
00:50:660 (6,7) - I notice that you only use 1/2 dd or kk, but dk fits drum sounds much much more and its still ok for futsuu so maybe change it to dk? (´・ω・`) dk is too hard in Futsuu
I test played with it and it's fine with the patterns you already have. It also brings the mood up and sets the emotion for the kiai time. It's up to you if you want to add it though.

I don't have any problems with the rest of the map. :v

[Muzukashii]
00:01:453 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1) - Make kat please. Don sounds awkward with primary piano intro.
As far as the rest, I have no idea. same as Futsuu. if put k, k is too many

[Generalized end]
From 00:01:453 to 00:13:068 there is nothing but piano. Don't use don for piano please. :v same as Futsuu

Clueless mod is clueless.
thanks for mod and star!
Jerry

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Oni's Jerry]

Map the whole song like all the other difficulties please, I don't see why not to. :arrow: It's a guest diff, I don't think following the other diff's styles would be entirely necessary .-.

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00:21:940 - This note is pretty strange considering that all the similar notes to this like 00:19:013 and 00:16:087 are at the end of a 1/4 cluster but this doesn't, which is probably why you mapped it to a big note here and not the latter two. But if I'm a player I'll be like "Why the hell is this is a big note while the previous patterns which have the exact same melody isn't"

tl;dr make this a small kat for the sake of consistency :arrow: I changed it into a 1/4 cluster like the rest of the patterns before it

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00:35:111 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1) - wow this was totally expected :arrow: Indeed, it's totally expected jk, I think it's fine because it's able to bring out contrast in the music between 00:35:111 - and 00:36:574 - which is fast and slow respectively. If you're talking about the "build-up" before the stream from 00:32:550 - to 00:34:928 - being insufficient,, then I'll try and fix that by adding a kat at 00:34:471 - so that there's at least a 5-note cluster right before the long stream to serve as a build-up (This is my current opinion on this (and also on another one of the suggestions below that is similar to this) , but if more people finds it weird and points it out, I'll change it entirely)

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00:50:477 (1,2) - Maybe change both of these to kats since the only stuff audible here is teh piano and its pitch is pretty high here? :arrow: Nice, changed


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01:07:306 (2,3,4,5,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,3,4,1) - wow this was totally expected too :arrow: Very much expected indeed More or less the same reason as the explanation that I gave above. Also, (same as above) added a 5-note dkdkd cluster right before the stream at 01:06:392 - to make a better build-up so that players can be prepared for it.


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01:13:160 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - This is just no. Mapping a 1/3 stream while the whole song is in 1/2 and 1/4 is just baka mapping like what i do. Putting 1/3 here has nothing to do with the song and just makes the map harder for no support from the music, so please just change it to normal ddddkkkkd ;w; :arrow: Of course, I know that this is sorta unnacceptable, but then I'm not ENTIRELY ignoring the music while mapping this part, I actually followed the fast drumming going slow at 01:13:160 - along with the vocals.
Anyway, I'm just gonna give it a try and see if this pattern manages to slide through. If I get sounded for it again, I'll remove it.
(Another reason is also because I really like this pattern /me slapped)


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01:48:282 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - kkkkkkd gives people an impression that the song is going downwards (in pitch, mood, or whatever) but it isn't the case here so tbh it doesn't flow that well with the song ;w; *ahem* i don't know what to suggest though *cough* #nubmodder :arrow: The song IS going downwards for this part. By that I mean the guitar is really intense for the entire part before it goes completely quiet at 01:48:831 - And also, I'm following the guitar entirely for this part as well, the high pitch of the guitar is clearly audible at 01:48:282 - to 01:48:739 - before it changes pitch at 01:48:831 - A really heavy drum sound can also be heard at 01:48:831 - , so I don't see any problem with the current pattern .w.
Thanks for the mod cdh, alot of arguable suggestions that you pointed out, and I actually took quite some time to consider most of them. @@

Update : http://puu.sh/aQzAZ/881bc18777.osu
Love
[Jerry's Oni]
  • I'm going to be very blunt about this difficulty, just keep that in mind.
  1. 00:18:831 (2,1) - Ctrl+G this, this would fit with the higher pitch of the guitar and remove 00:18:922 (3) + change 00:19:013 (1) to a D for a better emphasis on that.
  2. 00:23:495 (3,4,5) - Remove these, there's nothing going to this and would be fine as a triple if not removed entirely.
  3. 00:29:989 (3,1) - Ctrl+G this, this will fit the higher vocal pitch and leave more emphasis on the drums for the last part of this section.
  4. 00:35:111 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2) - This doesn't fit at all. 00:35:202 (3,4,5,2,4,1) - Remove these and it would all fit.
  5. 00:36:574 - 00:48:282 - This could be mapped to the drums instead of the vocals since the drums stick out more. This has fewer notes than a lot of other parts of this map.
  6. 01:01:452 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Not going to anything. http://puu.sh/aQVYq/317ae31cb3.jpg has a better interpretation of the drums.
  7. 01:07:306 (2,3,4,5,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,3,4) - This is a nono as well. This is going to absolutely nothing and shouldn't be overmapped as such. I'm not going to give an example cause you should know what sticks out more than 2/1 vocals.
  8. 01:11:696 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^
  9. 01:13:160 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - You explained that this was going to the vocals. This is not going to the vocals at all as there's no 1/3 emphasis inside of the vocals at all.
  10. 01:16:087 (1) - Remove the finish on this. It's the same as the note after it.
  11. 01:17:550 (1) - ^
  12. 01:19:013 (1) - ^
  13. 01:19:745 (3) - ^
  14. 01:20:477 (5) - 01:20:660 - I don't know why you suddenly left a note out, and the finisher shouldn't be there.
  15. 01:21:940 (1) - ^
  16. 01:23:404 (3) - ^
  17. 01:24:867 (1,3) - ^
  18. 01:43:617 (2) - Remove this to break this down more. This has no emphasis on anything as a note.
  19. 01:48:373 (2,3,4,6) - Remove these and Ctrl+G 01:48:648 (2,1).
  20. 01:55:873 (2,1) - Remove these to break this down. This really doesn't fit at all.
  21. 02:01:452 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - This doesn't go with anything as well.
  22. 02:08:038 (2,1,1,2,1) - Invert these to dkddk for an accurate judgement. This will help a little with the pitches of the vocals you want to use as 02:07:306 is a higher pitch than 02:08:038.
  23. 02:08:495 (1,2,3) - These can be removed, there's no emphasis on anything.
  24. 02:11:788 (3,5) - ^
  25. 02:15:721 - 02:25:599 - Why didn't you finish the map?
[Oni]

  1. 01:05:568 (2) - Try changing this to a d. This will help emphasize the vocals and snares at the same level.
  2. 01:40:690 (2) - This felt a little weird, maybe remove it?
[Muzukashii]

  1. This could be a little harder if the one of the Oni difficulties doesn't get easier.
[Futsuu]

  1. Same as the Muzu.
Call me back after you get a few more mods on Jerry's difficulty.
Topic Starter
ReySHeL

Love wrote:

[Oni]

  1. 01:05:568 (2) - Try changing this to a d. This will help emphasize the vocals and snares at the same level. removed
  2. 01:40:690 (2) - This felt a little weird, maybe remove it? i was trying to decide whether to remove this note. fixed
[Muzukashii]

  1. This could be a little harder if the one of the Oni difficulties doesn't get easier. i think this will be good
[Futsuu]

  1. Same as the Muzu.
Call me back after you get a few more mods on Jerry's difficulty.
thanks for mod Love!
was helpful.
Jerry

Love wrote:

[Jerry's Oni]
  • I'm going to be very blunt about this difficulty, just keep that in mind. :arrow: Noted
  1. 00:18:831 (2,1) - Ctrl+G this, this would fit with the higher pitch of the guitar and remove 00:18:922 (3) + change 00:19:013 (1) to a D for a better emphasis on that. :arrow: Sounds smooth, changed

  2. 00:23:495 (3,4,5) - Remove these, there's nothing going to this and would be fine as a triple if not removed entirely. :arrow: I think I'll go with the triplets, since all the similar patterns before this had triplets at this part. Deleted the note at 00:23:678 - , and I also deleted the one before this at 00:20:751 - for the sake of consistency

  3. 00:29:989 (3,1) - Ctrl+G this, this will fit the higher vocal pitch and leave more emphasis on the drums for the last part of this section. :arrow: Good catch, changed

  4. 00:35:111 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2) - This doesn't fit at all. 00:35:202 (3,4,5,2,4,1) - Remove these and it would all fit. :arrow: Removed according to your suggestion, but I decided to leave behind 1 note, which is 00:35:843 - because there is a soft drum beat here in the music, and it'll be kinda weird for a gap to be there

  5. 00:36:574 - 00:48:282 - This could be mapped to the drums instead of the vocals since the drums stick out more. This has fewer notes than a lot of other parts of this map. :arrow: Remapped this section according to the drums, but still with a little bit of reference to the vocals.

  6. 01:01:452 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Not going to anything. http://puu.sh/aQVYq/317ae31cb3.jpg has a better interpretation of the drums. :arrow: Alright .w.

  7. 01:07:306 (2,3,4,5,1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,3,4) - This is a nono as well. This is going to absolutely nothing and shouldn't be overmapped as such. I'm not going to give an example cause you should know what sticks out more than 2/1 vocals. :arrow: Removed it and replaced it with another simpler pattern that follows the drums of the music more closely.

  8. 01:11:696 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^ :arrow: ^ Changed it to something simpler that follows the drums of the music more closely.

  9. 01:13:160 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - You explained that this was going to the vocals. This is not going to the vocals at all as there's no 1/3 emphasis inside of the vocals at all. :arrow: Changed to follow the drums.
  10. 01:16:087 (1) - Remove the finish on this. It's the same as the note after it. :arrow: Got it
  11. 01:17:550 (1) - ^ :arrow: ^
  12. 01:19:013 (1) - ^ :arrow: ^
  13. 01:19:745 (3) - ^ :arrow: ^

  14. 01:20:477 (5) - 01:20:660 - I don't know why you suddenly left a note out, and the finisher shouldn't be there. :arrow: Before this I thought that there wasn't any sound there, unlike the other parts. But now that I listen closely, there's actually a drum beat here. Damn my ears orz
    Anyways, added a don there


  15. 01:21:940 (1) - ^ :arrow: Removed Finish
  16. 01:23:404 (3) - ^ :arrow: ^
  17. 01:24:867 (1,3) - ^ :arrow: ^

  18. 01:43:617 (2) - Remove this to break this down more. This has no emphasis on anything as a note. :arrow: I have no idea why I added that. Removed

  19. 01:48:373 (2,3,4,6) - Remove these and Ctrl+G 01:48:648 (2,1). :arrow: oshit I'm gonna have to apologize to cdh for rejecting his suggestion on this. Now that I try it again, it actually sounds good orz

  20. 01:55:873 (2,1) - Remove these to break this down. This really doesn't fit at all. :arrow: Removed 01:55:873 - only.
    I didn't remove the kat at 01:55:965 - because a drum beat can be heard there and also if I remove it, there'll be a 4-note cluster here which will be kinda weird because this type of pattern wasn't used at all in the other parts of the map .w.

  21. 02:01:452 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - This doesn't go with anything as well. :arrow: Changed to a simple triplet pattern

  22. 02:08:038 (2,1,1,2,1) - Invert these to dkddk for an accurate judgement. This will help a little with the pitches of the vocals you want to use as 02:07:306 is a higher pitch than 02:08:038. :arrow: Wow, that flows amazingly well with the kdkkd before it. Changed

  23. 02:08:495 (1,2,3) - These can be removed, there's no emphasis on anything. :arrow: Agreed. Removed

  24. 02:11:788 (3,5) - ^ :arrow: Alright

  25. 02:15:721 - 02:25:599 - Why didn't you finish the map? :arrow: I never noticed that the ending point was different from the other diffs. /facepalm Added some simple notes that are similar to the ones that I put at 01:14:623 - to 01:25:782 -
Wow I got raped Thanks alot for the helpful mod! Changed quite a number of things here and there :3

Update : http://puu.sh/aScKD/ac436bef1f.osu
Love
The two mappers talked and decided to move Jerry's Oni to creator's notes. I rechecked and I'm proud to bubble this.

Boop~

Play Jerry's Oni in the creator's notes, it had a bit of potential and might be fun to play to a bit of you. I also requested for the older version since my mod was a little too harsh, so you can try both versions out if it sparks your interest.
Topic Starter
ReySHeL

Love wrote:

The two mappers talked and decided to move Jerry's Oni to creator's notes. I rechecked and I'm proud to bubble this.

Boop~

Play Jerry's Oni in the creator's notes, it had a bit of potential and might be fun to play to a bit of you. I also requested for the older version since my mod was a little too harsh, so you can try both versions out if it sparks your interest.
thanks Love >.<!!
MMzz
Deemo :D

[Oni]
I recommend OD6 instead of 5. 6 works well with the density and pace of the map, also because this is an Oni.

[Muzukashii]
00:18:282 (1) - Kat here. Fits nice with the rest of the pattern and changes up the note order by starting a pattern with a Kat. This helps the difficulty be less bland and more interactive.
00:24:135 (1) - Kat here as a follow-up to the previous suggestion. Mainly for consistently, but again serves the same purpose of the previous by changing up the notes positively.
00:36:300 - Add a Kat here to make a triple resembling the drum roll. I noticed you did this later in the map during the kiai and it works very nicely for the overall difficulty of the map. Also introducing this pattern earlier in the map helps the player recognize it in the kiai sections. They will know for sure there are more 1/4 triplets and prepare themselves for it. (This really only applies to sightreads, but it is a good thing to do for the spread of a map)
00:47:916 (2,3) - Change to kkk D. Again for the drum roll in the song. The big Kat is changed to a Don because the flow is much more natural and easier to understand. The reasons I stated in the previous suggestion about the 1/4 triple applies here too.

Other diffs look good. The Oni is very well made and was super fun to play! The Muzukashii also has a great vocal rhythm focus that I personally think makes it enjoyable to play and easier for players just starting on Muzukashii to understand.

Look over my suggestions and call me back so we can get this ranked!
Topic Starter
ReySHeL

MMzz wrote:

Deemo :D

[Oni]
I recommend OD6 instead of 5. 6 works well with the density and pace of the map, also because this is an Oni. i want to OD5 >.<

[Muzukashii]
00:18:282 (1) - Kat here. Fits nice with the rest of the pattern and changes up the note order by starting a pattern with a Kat. This helps the difficulty be less bland and more interactive.
00:24:135 (1) - Kat here as a follow-up to the previous suggestion. Mainly for consistently, but again serves the same purpose of the previous by changing up the notes positively.
00:36:300 - Add a Kat here to make a triple resembling the drum roll. I noticed you did this later in the map during the kiai and it works very nicely for the overall difficulty of the map. Also introducing this pattern earlier in the map helps the player recognize it in the kiai sections. They will know for sure there are more 1/4 triplets and prepare themselves for it. (This really only applies to sightreads, but it is a good thing to do for the spread of a map)
00:47:916 (2,3) - Change to kkk D. Again for the drum roll in the song. The big Kat is changed to a Don because the flow is much more natural and easier to understand. The reasons I stated in the previous suggestion about the 1/4 triple applies here too. all fixed

Other diffs look good. The Oni is very well made and was super fun to play! The Muzukashii also has a great vocal rhythm focus that I personally think makes it enjoyable to play and easier for players just starting on Muzukashii to understand.

thanks (っ´ω`c)

Look over my suggestions and call me back so we can get this ranked!
thanks for mod MMzz!
very helpful <3
MMzz
Ranked!
Topic Starter
ReySHeL

MMzz wrote:

Ranked!
thanks MMzz!
Lust
Congratulations! Nice song :3
qoot8123
gratz~~ :)
Jerry
Wow that was fast

おめでとう、れい!
Cihyaa
やっほレイさんおめんでんとん
AnreFM
gratz, lovely map <3
-Sh1n1-
Congratz Reyshel *-*/
toara_fict
wao hayai

omedetou!!! & okaeri~ :3
Asagi Mutsuki
Congratz~

Too bad Jerry's Oni was removed :P
Topic Starter
ReySHeL
thanks everyone!

_(┐「ε:)_

Jerry wrote:

Wow that was fast

おめでとう、れい!
ありがとうじぇりー!

Cihyaa wrote:

やっほレイさんおめんでんとん
ありがんとん!

toara_fict wrote:

wao hayai

omedetou!!! & okaeri~ :3
arigato!! & tadaima (。・ω・。)!!
OnosakiHito
Other TBATs were quicker. lol
Congratulation!
Topic Starter
ReySHeL

OnosakiHito wrote:

Other TBATs were quicker. lol
Congratulation!
www
thanks Onosaki-san!
lolikai
congratulation,but i don't play taiko :cry:
OnosakiHito
Disqualified for some reasons I'm going to state down below.

Didn't played all maps before, that's why I haven't stated any concerns in my previous post.

[General]

All maps are made really nice. But the density of notes in Futsuu and Muzukashii is pretty high. The maps are mainly mapped in a consecutive way without any breaks, which makes the maps have no emphasis or bigger impact on certain parts. Especially in Muzukashii this is visible, since you map constently with 1/2 on calm, normal and kiai parts. For example at 00:57:062, where the part becomes calmer than previous one. You didn't tune down the density here, even though the song calls for it. I will give you some diff specific examples down below.



Additional to this, I'm concerned about the spread in this set. Futsuu to Muzukashii is quite high, compared to the others:


ND: (Kantan 193) ← 94 → (Futsuu 287) ← 265 → (Muzukashii 552 ) ← 195 → (Oni 747)


[ Futsuu]

SPOILER
Let's start with Futsuu first. As I said, I will give you some examples what notes you can remove here.

00:01:453~00:12:245 - Look at Kantan's note density. It is much lower than Futsuus, and Muzukashii has the exact same pattern as Oni. Take this part from Futsuu and put it into Muzukashii. You should remap this part in Futsuu so the spread is better to Kantan and Muzu.
{ Following notes can be deleted to have 2/1 breaks between the patterns.
00:14:257 (2) -
00:17:184 (2) -
00:20:111 (2) -
00:23:038 (2) -
} You mapped to the high pitch, but even without these, it still sounds good and gives the part 00:24:867 a biigger impact.
{
00:31:087 (1) -
00:34:379 (1) - move to 00:34:745
} 1/1 patterns are easy, yet the alternate a lot. That's why we should take care of it and have at least some bigger breaks. Current one should still fit to the beat but also kinda to the vocal.
{
00:37:306 (1) - Deleting this will make the upcoming part have a bigger impact. This part is really calm, so avoiding to have 2/1 consecutive mapping is a good way to get emphasis. It also fits pretty well to the vocal and differs the parts 00:36:574 and 00:38:038 really nice from each other.
00:43:160 (1) - ^
}
00:51:209 - Kiai can be kept as it is. Now it should be much more emphasized, since the similar pattern at 00:13:160 got less notes. In this way, kiai acts as "rise of notes".
00:57:062 - Consider making the kiai end here instead at 01:02:550. The song becomes much calmer here. In this way next kiai at 01:02:916 becomes stronger as well. Not a must though.

[ Muzukashii]

SPOILER
00:01:453~00:12:245 - This part should carry now Futsuu's patterns.
{ Similar to Futsuu.
00:14:074 (2) -
00:17:001 (2) -
00:17:550 (1) -
00:19:928 (2) -
00:20:477 (1) -
00:22:855 (2) -
00:23:404 (1) -
} The thing is now, after you delete these notes, the impact at 00:24:867 will be much bigger because, this part contains more notes.
00:29:257 - Recommending this to avoid having too long 1/2 patterns. Marked (1) is K.

00:34:379 - Same as above.

00:36:574~00:48:282 - Compare Futsuu with Muzukashii. You will notice quick that there is a huge difference in difficulty and ND. Please delete more notes in this part.
00:57:062 - Consider making the kiai end here instead at 01:02:550. The song becomes much calmer here. In this way next kiai at 01:02:916 becomes stronger as well. Not a must though.
00:57:062~00:59:989 - In Futsuu I said you can keep the mapping as it is, but in Muzukashii you have to make this part less dense. It would fit better so the song and give upcoming part a bigger impact.



[ Oni]

SPOILER
00:36:574~00:48:282 - You might want to lower the note density here, too. Since in Muzu you had to do it as well.
00:57:062 - Consider making the kiai end here instead at 01:02:550. The song becomes much calmer here. In this way next kiai at 01:02:916 becomes stronger as well. Not a must though.
00:57:062~00:59:989 - You might want to consider deleting some notes due to similar reasons I provided in Muzukashii.


I can just repeat myself that the maps are in general really good. The song is also great. Even more does it make me sad to unrank it. lol
But you have to take care of possible spread issues and try to make patterns / stanzas / parts become more emphasized. Else the map becomes monotonically, which scratches on the quality itself.

Everything I said above should be followed and applied to the second half of the beatmap as well. If you don't want to change something, try to have own ideas to fix the spread issue and have more breaks. After you changed it, Modders and BATs should look at it and bubble / rank again.
Good luck.
Spy
R.I.P.
Topic Starter
ReySHeL

OnosakiHito wrote:

Disqualified for some reasons I'm going to state down below.

Didn't played all maps before, that's why I haven't stated any concerns in my previous post.

[General]

All maps are made really nice. But the density of notes in Futsuu and Muzukashii is pretty high. The maps are mainly mapped in a consecutive way without any breaks, which makes the maps have no emphasis or bigger impact on certain parts. Especially in Muzukashii this is visible, since you map constently with 1/2 on calm, normal and kiai parts. For example at 00:57:062, where the part becomes calmer than previous one. You didn't tune down the density here, even though the song calls for it. I will give you some diff specific examples down below.



Additional to this, I'm concerned about the spread in this set. Futsuu to Muzukashii is quite high, compared to the others:


ND: (Kantan 193) ← 94 → (Futsuu 287) ← 265 → (Muzukashii 552 ) ← 195 → (Oni 747)


[ Futsuu]

SPOILER
Let's start with Futsuu first. As I said, I will give you some examples what notes you can remove here.

00:01:453~00:12:245 - Look at Kantan's note density. It is much lower than Futsuus, and Muzukashii has the exact same pattern as Oni. Take this part from Futsuu and put it into Muzukashii. You should remap this part in Futsuu so the spread is better to Kantan and Muzu.
{ Following notes can be deleted to have 2/1 breaks between the patterns.
00:14:257 (2) -
00:17:184 (2) -
00:20:111 (2) -
00:23:038 (2) -
} You mapped to the high pitch, but even without these, it still sounds good and gives the part 00:24:867 a biigger impact.
{
00:31:087 (1) -
00:34:379 (1) - move to 00:34:745 if move this, break is long and feel little weird to me.
} 1/1 patterns are easy, yet the alternate a lot. That's why we should take care of it and have at least some bigger breaks. Current one should still fit to the beat but also kinda to the vocal.
{
00:37:306 (1) - Deleting this will make the upcoming part have a bigger impact. This part is really calm, so avoiding to have 2/1 consecutive mapping is a good way to get emphasis. It also fits pretty well to the vocal and differs the parts 00:36:574 and 00:38:038 really nice from each other.
00:43:160 (1) - ^
}
00:51:209 - Kiai can be kept as it is. Now it should be much more emphasized, since the similar pattern at 00:13:160 got less notes. In this way, kiai acts as "rise of notes".
00:57:062 - Consider making the kiai end here instead at 01:02:550. The song becomes much calmer here. In this way next kiai at 01:02:916 becomes stronger as well. Not a must though.

[ Muzukashii]

SPOILER
00:01:453~00:12:245 - This part should carry now Futsuu's patterns.
{ Similar to Futsuu.
00:14:074 (2) -
00:17:001 (2) -
00:17:550 (1) -
00:19:928 (2) -
00:20:477 (1) -
00:22:855 (2) -
00:23:404 (1) -
} The thing is now, after you delete these notes, the impact at 00:24:867 will be much bigger because, this part contains more notes.
00:29:257 - Recommending this to avoid having too long 1/2 patterns. Marked (1) is K.

00:34:379 - Same as above. some changed both part.

00:36:574~00:48:282 - Compare Futsuu with Muzukashii. You will notice quick that there is a huge difference in difficulty and ND. Please delete more notes in this part.
00:57:062 - Consider making the kiai end here instead at 01:02:550. The song becomes much calmer here. In this way next kiai at 01:02:916 becomes stronger as well. Not a must though.
00:57:062~00:59:989 - In Futsuu I said you can keep the mapping as it is, but in Muzukashii you have to make this part less dense. It would fit better so the song and give upcoming part a bigger impact.



[ Oni]

SPOILER
00:36:574~00:48:282 - You might want to lower the note density here, too. Since in Muzu you had to do it as well.
00:57:062 - Consider making the kiai end here instead at 01:02:550. The song becomes much calmer here. In this way next kiai at 01:02:916 becomes stronger as well. Not a must though.
00:57:062~00:59:989 - You might want to consider deleting some notes due to similar reasons I provided in Muzukashii.
i want to keep it.
cuz i was completed Oni.



I can just repeat myself that the maps are in general really good. The song is also great. Even more does it make me sad to unrank it. lol
But you have to take care of possible spread issues and try to make patterns / stanzas / parts become more emphasized. Else the map becomes monotonically, which scratches on the quality itself.

Everything I said above should be followed and applied to the second half of the beatmap as well. If you don't want to change something, try to have own ideas to fix the spread issue and have more breaks. After you changed it, Modders and BATs should look at it and bubble / rank again.
Good luck.
fixed Kiai, Futsuu and Muzukashii.
i think spread has improved now.
thanks for mod :3


re-rank plz ;w;
Topic Starter
ReySHeL

Spy wrote:

R.I.P.
:(
OnosakiHito
ND was previously this:
(Kantan 193) ← 94 → (Futsuu 287) ← 265 → (Muzukashii 552 ) ← 195 → (Oni 747)

Now it's this after changes:
(Kantan 169) ← 107 → (Futsuu 276) ← 234 → (Muzukashii 510) ← 237 → (Oni 747)

Great work Reyshel. Now the spread is much better than before as you can see above. In general Kantan could have some less notes, but there aren't further changes needed, since else we might change the map too much. Just keep an eye on the spread next time! I hope you learned a lot in our IRC talk. :3
小野崎は本当に嬉しいです。今のスプリードはいいとRANKABLEです。Reyさん、お疲れです。
I hope you are as satisfied as I am.


SPOILER
14:59 OnosakiHito: こんにちはReyさん。えっと・・・俺の日本語LVLは小さいです。だから、僕が英語を作ります。それはいいか?
15:00 OnosakiHito: もしかして「英本」もいいかw
15:00 ReySHeL: こんにちわ小野崎さん。 いいですよー
15:01 OnosakiHito: First: Unrankを本当にごめんなさい、でも... it was important.
15:01 ReySHeL: うん >.<
15:02 OnosakiHito: Second: Reyさんの話「i dont want to remove there notes.」は憂わしいです。
15:03 OnosakiHito: Muzukashii must have some deletions.
15:03 OnosakiHito: スプリードはまだまだいいです。
15:03 ReySHeL: はい
15:03 OnosakiHito: You deleted some notes in Futsuu = OK, super
15:04 ReySHeL: thanks
15:04 ReySHeL: Muzukashiiもchanged
15:04 OnosakiHito: But no deletion on Muzu = Not OK because, spread can becomme bigger
15:04 ReySHeL: ;w;
15:04 OnosakiHito: 00:14:074 (2) - You don't have to delete if you don't want.
15:05 OnosakiHito: But you should delete other notes then in this part.
15:06 ReySHeL: 00:13:709 - i can delete this note
15:06 OnosakiHito: 難しいのNOTESは本当に密度の高いです。
15:06 OnosakiHito: うん、それはいいです。
15:06 ReySHeL: はい
15:06 OnosakiHito: I don't want to force you or feel sad.
15:07 OnosakiHito: I want you to be happy about changes as well,
15:07 OnosakiHito: that's why you can choose what you delete.
15:08 ReySHeL: はい
15:09 OnosakiHito: Problem is: If we don't delete some notes and make spread a bit better,
15:09 OnosakiHito: the set will be unqualfied again.
15:10 OnosakiHito: I don't want that lol
15:12 OnosakiHito: だから、難しいの密度の高いをCHECKします。(That's why you should check Muzu's ND again.)
15:12 ReySHeL: わかりました
15:13 ReySHeL: what is ND?
15:13 OnosakiHito: Note Density
15:13 OnosakiHito: (密度の高い)
15:13 ReySHeL: oh
15:13 OnosakiHito: 俺が待ってるです。
15:14 ReySHeL: 後どれぐらい note へらす?
15:14 OnosakiHito: ()dore
15:14 ReySHeL: あと
15:15 OnosakiHito: ああ
15:16 OnosakiHito: ん。。。
15:16 OnosakiHito: I don't know. Depends.
15:17 ReySHeL: 00:13:160 - ~ 00:24:867 - ここですよね?
15:17 OnosakiHito: Just try to make the notes fit to the songs calm, normal and kiai parts.
15:17 ReySHeL: kiai too?
15:17 OnosakiHito: Yes.
15:17 OnosakiHito: kiai not.
15:17 ReySHeL: or this part only
15:17 OnosakiHito: it#s fine
15:17 ReySHeL: k
15:17 OnosakiHito: I will give you timlines.
15:18 ReySHeL: たぶん 数分で終わります
15:19 OnosakiHito: 00:13:160 - ~ 00:24:867 - Some deletions like 00:13:709 (1) -
15:19 OnosakiHito: 00:36:574 - ~ 00:48:282 - Changed already...?
15:20 OnosakiHito: 00:57:062 - ~ 00:59:989 - Delete some notes as well. Calm part.
15:20 ReySHeL: 00:36:574 - ~ changed already
15:20 ReySHeL: だいぶnotes へらしました
15:21 OnosakiHito: 01:26:331 - ~ 01:38:038 - must delete some. Same notes like in Oni.
15:21 OnosakiHito: 00:36:483 - Changed? Okay!
15:21 ReySHeL: yes
15:22 OnosakiHito: 01:26:331 - kkkはいいです。Just delete some 1/2.
15:22 OnosakiHito: 1/4 is fine.
15:23 ReySHeL: 01:26:696 - k k k Rhythm?
15:23 OnosakiHito: 01:57:062 - ~ 02:02:184 - Delete just some notes. Don't need many.
15:25 OnosakiHito: いええ。僕の話は「kkk1/4はいいです。でも1/2notesに削除する、お願いします。」
15:26 OnosakiHito: 01:32:001 (2,3,4) - good
15:26 OnosakiHito: 01:26:331 - ~ 01:30:721 - delete some 1/2 notes
15:26 ReySHeL: k
15:27 OnosakiHito: 01:57:062 - ~ 01:59:257 - try have less notes as well.
15:27 OnosakiHito: Everything else is fine!
15:28 ReySHeL: :)
15:29 ReySHeL: 01:59:623 - this kkk is ok?
15:29 OnosakiHito: yes.
15:29 OnosakiHito: you can keep if you want.
15:31 OnosakiHito: Sounds like much, but actually there is just a small amount of notes you would need to delete.
15:31 OnosakiHito: Nothing that changes your map really much. Your main patterns and beats remain the same.
15:32 ReySHeL: はい
15:33 ReySHeL: 00:13:160 - ~ 00:24:867 - fixed 01:57:062 - ~ 01:59:989 - fixed 01:26:331 - here now
15:36 OnosakiHito: ok
15:39 ReySHeL: ok fixed. update?
15:39 ReySHeL: max combo: 515
15:43 OnosakiHito: let me check
15:43 OnosakiHito: wait
15:43 ReySHeL: kk
15:44 OnosakiHito: Previously: 265 differenece
15:44 OnosakiHito: Now: 239
15:44 OnosakiHito: still high, but better now!
15:44 OnosakiHito: Let's try.
15:44 ReySHeL: xD
15:44 ReySHeL: update しますね
15:45 OnosakiHito: ok~
15:46 ReySHeL: updated~
15:53 ReySHeL: 02:08:770 - i forgot remove this part lol
15:54 OnosakiHito: sure, just remove
15:54 OnosakiHito: lol
15:55 ReySHeL: yea lol
16:02 OnosakiHito: How do you feel about the map now?
16:03 ReySHeL: good
16:03 ReySHeL: いい感じにnotesをへらせました
16:03 OnosakiHito: 本当にほんとう?
16:03 ReySHeL: yes!
16:03 ReySHeL: 小野崎さんは?
16:03 OnosakiHito: よかったです!
16:03 OnosakiHito: うん!僕も
16:03 ReySHeL: xD
16:04 ReySHeL: ありがとう!
16:09 OnosakiHito: http://puu.sh/b3c5h/03364a03a3.png
16:09 OnosakiHito: much better now
16:09 OnosakiHito: lol
16:10 OnosakiHito: Kantan and Futsuu is close to each other, but well,
16:10 OnosakiHito: Muzu has much more notes, so that's normal.
16:11 OnosakiHito: But you can consider having some deletions in Kantan if you want. Example: 00:36:574 - having more 4/1 patterns than 2/1.
16:11 OnosakiHito: Similar to Futsuu and Muzu. I won't force you here this time. But maybe think about it.
16:12 ReySHeL: ふむ
16:12 OnosakiHito: wwwwww
16:12 ReySHeL: www
16:13 ReySHeL: i think kantan is ok owo
16:13 OnosakiHito: Kantan: http://puu.sh/b3chZ/fa542327ce.jpg because of this
16:13 ReySHeL: lol
16:13 OnosakiHito: You see?
16:13 OnosakiHito: No bigger break than 4/1
16:13 OnosakiHito: lol
16:14 OnosakiHito: I didn't noticed it before, because I saw problems in Futsuu and Muzu.
16:14 ReySHeL: i see
16:20 OnosakiHito: p/3324352
16:21 ReySHeL: >.<
16:21 OnosakiHito: I recommend to have some deletions in Kantan. :P
16:22 OnosakiHito: but for now:
16:22 OnosakiHito: お疲れ!
16:22 ReySHeL: ありがとう!
16:23 OnosakiHito: 今から僕は本当に嬉しいです。
16:23 ReySHeL: それは良かった :D
16:23 OnosakiHito: w
16:24 ReySHeL: 小野崎さんは これに buble / rank できない?
16:24 ReySHeL: bubble*
16:25 OnosakiHito: できないです。それはBATの役です。
16:26 OnosakiHito: After Kantan got some deletions, I'm sure TKS will check!
16:26 OnosakiHito: rank will be easy.
16:27 ReySHeL: kantan need fix?
16:28 OnosakiHito: Some deletions like in Fu and Mu.
16:28 OnosakiHito: You see the spread.
16:28 OnosakiHito: Really sorry that I didn't saw it before!
16:28 OnosakiHito: but it shouldn't be a problem if you check it....?
16:30 ReySHeL: idk where part delete kantan..
16:30 OnosakiHito: Ooh....
16:30 OnosakiHito: should I... help?
16:31 ReySHeL: please help ;w;
16:32 OnosakiHito: xD
16:32 OnosakiHito: ok
16:32 ReySHeL: thanks!
16:33 OnosakiHito: 00:13:160 - ~ 00:24:867 - Same like before. Some deletion are possible. Example:
16:33 OnosakiHito: 00:15:721 (3) -
16:33 OnosakiHito: 00:18:648 (1) - change k
16:34 OnosakiHito: 00:21:574 (3) - delete
16:34 OnosakiHito: Try it. Maybe you like it.
16:35 ReySHeL: うーむ..
16:36 ReySHeL: さみしいw
16:43 OnosakiHito: lol
16:43 OnosakiHito: 00:36:574 - ~ 00:48:282 - You have to delete notes.
16:44 OnosakiHito: Really calm part, so you need 8/1 breaks. Example:
16:44 OnosakiHito: 00:38:038 (5,1) -
16:44 OnosakiHito: 00:40:965 (2,1) -
16:45 ReySHeL: delete?
16:46 OnosakiHito: Yes.
16:46 OnosakiHito: This might sound now strange to you.
16:46 OnosakiHito: But that's what a Kantan should have
16:47 ReySHeL: oh
16:47 ReySHeL: 00:43:892 (1,2) - not delete?
16:49 OnosakiHito: You can do this: http://puu.sh/b3epa/2c0c5b7098.png
16:49 OnosakiHito: 00:42:428 - ~ 00:48:282 -
16:50 OnosakiHito: Ah, summan, going to eat.
16:50 OnosakiHito: back in some minutes!
16:50 ReySHeL: kk!
16:51 ReySHeL: いってらw
17:08 OnosakiHito: ok!
17:08 OnosakiHito: back
17:08 ReySHeL: okaeri!
17:08 OnosakiHito: thanks~
17:08 ReySHeL: kanban deleted some notes :)
17:08 ReySHeL: 182 combo now
17:09 OnosakiHito: 00:13:160 - ~ 00:24:867 - Some deleted?
17:09 ReySHeL: yes
17:09 OnosakiHito: 00:36:574 - ~ 00:48:282 - Some deleted?
17:09 ReySHeL: yes
17:09 ReySHeL: 00:27:062 - 00:32:916 - too
17:10 OnosakiHito: Perfect!
17:10 OnosakiHito: You understood what I mean.
17:10 ReySHeL: thanks :D
17:10 OnosakiHito: Kiai is fine. Maybe notes like this 00:56:696 (2) - can be deleted.
17:11 OnosakiHito: Fits well to song, but such notes aren't always needed.
17:11 OnosakiHito: In Kantan, you don't map to all sounds.
17:11 ReySHeL: oh
17:11 OnosakiHito: 00:57:062 - ~ 00:59:989 - less notes like in muzu / futsuu
17:12 OnosakiHito: Maybe 00:57:062 - ~ 01:01:452 - is better.
17:12 OnosakiHito: 01:08:404 (1) - same as before.
17:13 ReySHeL: deleted both
17:13 OnosakiHito: http://puu.sh/b3fQC/0e08bb567a.png 01:08:770 - ~ 01:14:623 -
17:13 OnosakiHito: ^ So you have here 01:09:867 - a break.
17:14 ReySHeL: http://puu.sh/b3fQC/0e08bb567a.png どこだ
17:15 OnosakiHito: 01:14:623 ~ - 01:26:331 - Better remove some, because look at Futsuu. A bit similar.
17:15 OnosakiHito: そこに 01:08:770 -
17:17 ReySHeL: 01:08:404 - d 01:08:770 - k ?
17:18 OnosakiHito: 貴方のidea?
17:18 ReySHeL: ちがう
17:18 ReySHeL: http://puu.sh/b3fQC/0e08bb567a.png
17:18 OnosakiHito: oh
17:18 ReySHeL: これがわからない
17:18 ReySHeL: ばしょ
17:18 OnosakiHito: 01:07:306 - d
17:18 OnosakiHito: 01:08:404 - k
17:18 OnosakiHito: 01:08:770 - d
17:18 OnosakiHito: 01:09:501 - k
17:19 OnosakiHito: 01:10:599 - d
17:19 OnosakiHito: 01:10:965 - k
17:19 OnosakiHito: 01:11:696 - ...
17:20 OnosakiHito: 01:07:306 - ~ 01:14:623 - はこの芸です|http://puu.sh/b3fQC/0e08bb567a.png
17:20 OnosakiHito: あああああああああああああああああ
17:20 OnosakiHito: すまんすまん、いええいええいええいええ
17:20 OnosakiHito: 違うです。
17:20 ReySHeL: :o
17:20 OnosakiHito: 僕はわるいwww
17:20 ReySHeL: おk
17:21 ReySHeL: wwww
17:21 OnosakiHito: 01:08:770 - ~ 01:14:623 - このTimelineはいまの芸です|http://puu.sh/b3fQC/0e08bb567a.png
17:22 OnosakiHito: 一番ドンのTimelineは 01:08:770 - です。
17:22 OnosakiHito: 01:08:770 -
17:22 OnosakiHito: 今、Reyさんは分かる?w
17:23 ReySHeL: えっと
17:23 OnosakiHito: はい?
17:23 ReySHeL: いちばんひだりのdが
17:23 ReySHeL: 01:08:770 -
17:23 ReySHeL: ここ?
17:23 OnosakiHito: はい
17:23 ReySHeL: やっとわかったw
17:23 OnosakiHito: XD
17:25 ReySHeL: nice rhythm
17:25 ReySHeL: :D
17:25 OnosakiHito: \:3/
17:26 OnosakiHito: 01:14:623 - ~ 01:26:331 - Delete some notes. Density is similar to Futsuu.
17:26 OnosakiHito: Example:
17:29 OnosakiHito: http://puu.sh/b3gNj/dd1d7dfdee.png
17:29 OnosakiHito: hidari d ha 01:14:623 (1) -
17:29 OnosakiHito: migi d ha 01:26:331 (1) -
17:29 OnosakiHito: All don are finisher
17:29 ReySHeL: ok
17:30 OnosakiHito: Just example. You can make your own patterns if you don't like.
17:30 ReySHeL: わかりました
17:33 OnosakiHito: 01:49:745 (3,4) - Recommend to delete.
17:33 OnosakiHito: 01:42:062 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This pattern was really long.
17:33 OnosakiHito: So having a big break at 01:49:745 - is important.
17:34 ReySHeL: ok
17:34 OnosakiHito: 01:56:696 (1) - can be delete like before.
17:34 OnosakiHito: 01:57:062 - Same like 00:57:062 -
17:35 ReySHeL: yes :)
17:35 OnosakiHito: 02:08:404 (1) - Maybe delete like before.
17:35 OnosakiHito: everything else is fine!
17:35 ReySHeL: xD
17:35 OnosakiHito: もうやったですか?やったか?!あああああ
17:36 ReySHeL: やったw 
17:36 ReySHeL: 01:14:623 - いまここ編集中ww
17:36 OnosakiHito: 神様お願いします!力をgive ussss
17:36 ReySHeL: www
17:36 OnosakiHito: ()()中
17:36 ReySHeL: へんしゅう
17:37 OnosakiHito: 編集
17:37 OnosakiHito: 編集中
17:37 ReySHeL: yea
17:37 OnosakiHito: ok w
17:38 ReySHeL: ok fixed w
17:38 OnosakiHito: Everzthing finished_
17:39 ReySHeL: updateしますね
17:39 OnosakiHito: ok~
17:41 ReySHeL: 01:49:745 (3,4) - i want this cuz 00:49:745 (3,4) -
17:41 ReySHeL: :(
17:42 ReySHeL: 01:44:623 - deleted
17:42 OnosakiHito: Maybe delete 01:50:843 (5) - then?
17:42 OnosakiHito: oooh
17:43 OnosakiHito: you deleted 01:44:623 - okay!
17:43 OnosakiHito: Good! THta's what I wanted to suggest before.
17:43 ReySHeL: :D
17:43 ReySHeL: thanks!
17:43 OnosakiHito: You understand the way I see it better and better!
17:43 ReySHeL: www
17:43 OnosakiHito: :3
17:44 ReySHeL: updated!
17:44 OnosakiHito: niceeeee
17:44 OnosakiHito: 192 -> 169
17:45 ReySHeL: xD
17:48 OnosakiHito: 01:14:623 - ~ 01:26:331 - Well, still consecutive mapping in this part. main beat is 4/1, so having bigger breaks would be better. But...
17:48 OnosakiHito: if you really want it, let's keep it.
17:48 ReySHeL: ok
17:48 OnosakiHito: Change or keep?
17:49 ReySHeL: keep
17:49 OnosakiHito: ok
17:51 ReySHeL: waiting for TKS now?

(You can kudosu this, since my previous post was excluded of it)
Topic Starter
ReySHeL

OnosakiHito wrote:

ND was previously this:
(Kantan 193) ← 94 → (Futsuu 287) ← 265 → (Muzukashii 552 ) ← 195 → (Oni 747)

Now it's this after changes:
(Kantan 169) ← 107 → (Futsuu 276) ← 234 → (Muzukashii 510) ← 237 → (Oni 747)

Great work Reyshel. Now the spread is much better than before as you can see above. In general Kantan could have some less notes, but there aren't further changes needed, since else we might change the map too much. Just keep an eye on the spread next time! I hope you learned a lot in our IRC talk. :3
小野崎は本当に嬉しいです。今のスプリードはいいとRANKABLEです。Reyさん、お疲れです。
I hope you are as satisfied as I am.


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14:59 OnosakiHito: こんにちはReyさん。えっと・・・俺の日本語LVLは小さいです。だから、僕が英語を作ります。それはいいか?
15:00 OnosakiHito: もしかして「英本」もいいかw
15:00 ReySHeL: こんにちわ小野崎さん。 いいですよー
15:01 OnosakiHito: First: Unrankを本当にごめんなさい、でも... it was important.
15:01 ReySHeL: うん >.<
15:02 OnosakiHito: Second: Reyさんの話「i dont want to remove there notes.」は憂わしいです。
15:03 OnosakiHito: Muzukashii must have some deletions.
15:03 OnosakiHito: スプリードはまだまだいいです。
15:03 ReySHeL: はい
15:03 OnosakiHito: You deleted some notes in Futsuu = OK, super
15:04 ReySHeL: thanks
15:04 ReySHeL: Muzukashiiもchanged
15:04 OnosakiHito: But no deletion on Muzu = Not OK because, spread can becomme bigger
15:04 ReySHeL: ;w;
15:04 OnosakiHito: 00:14:074 (2) - You don't have to delete if you don't want.
15:05 OnosakiHito: But you should delete other notes then in this part.
15:06 ReySHeL: 00:13:709 - i can delete this note
15:06 OnosakiHito: 難しいのNOTESは本当に密度の高いです。
15:06 OnosakiHito: うん、それはいいです。
15:06 ReySHeL: はい
15:06 OnosakiHito: I don't want to force you or feel sad.
15:07 OnosakiHito: I want you to be happy about changes as well,
15:07 OnosakiHito: that's why you can choose what you delete.
15:08 ReySHeL: はい
15:09 OnosakiHito: Problem is: If we don't delete some notes and make spread a bit better,
15:09 OnosakiHito: the set will be unqualfied again.
15:10 OnosakiHito: I don't want that lol
15:12 OnosakiHito: だから、難しいの密度の高いをCHECKします。(That's why you should check Muzu's ND again.)
15:12 ReySHeL: わかりました
15:13 ReySHeL: what is ND?
15:13 OnosakiHito: Note Density
15:13 OnosakiHito: (密度の高い)
15:13 ReySHeL: oh
15:13 OnosakiHito: 俺が待ってるです。
15:14 ReySHeL: 後どれぐらい note へらす?
15:14 OnosakiHito: ()dore
15:14 ReySHeL: あと
15:15 OnosakiHito: ああ
15:16 OnosakiHito: ん。。。
15:16 OnosakiHito: I don't know. Depends.
15:17 ReySHeL: 00:13:160 - ~ 00:24:867 - ここですよね?
15:17 OnosakiHito: Just try to make the notes fit to the songs calm, normal and kiai parts.
15:17 ReySHeL: kiai too?
15:17 OnosakiHito: Yes.
15:17 OnosakiHito: kiai not.
15:17 ReySHeL: or this part only
15:17 OnosakiHito: it#s fine
15:17 ReySHeL: k
15:17 OnosakiHito: I will give you timlines.
15:18 ReySHeL: たぶん 数分で終わります
15:19 OnosakiHito: 00:13:160 - ~ 00:24:867 - Some deletions like 00:13:709 (1) -
15:19 OnosakiHito: 00:36:574 - ~ 00:48:282 - Changed already...?
15:20 OnosakiHito: 00:57:062 - ~ 00:59:989 - Delete some notes as well. Calm part.
15:20 ReySHeL: 00:36:574 - ~ changed already
15:20 ReySHeL: だいぶnotes へらしました
15:21 OnosakiHito: 01:26:331 - ~ 01:38:038 - must delete some. Same notes like in Oni.
15:21 OnosakiHito: 00:36:483 - Changed? Okay!
15:21 ReySHeL: yes
15:22 OnosakiHito: 01:26:331 - kkkはいいです。Just delete some 1/2.
15:22 OnosakiHito: 1/4 is fine.
15:23 ReySHeL: 01:26:696 - k k k Rhythm?
15:23 OnosakiHito: 01:57:062 - ~ 02:02:184 - Delete just some notes. Don't need many.
15:25 OnosakiHito: いええ。僕の話は「kkk1/4はいいです。でも1/2notesに削除する、お願いします。」
15:26 OnosakiHito: 01:32:001 (2,3,4) - good
15:26 OnosakiHito: 01:26:331 - ~ 01:30:721 - delete some 1/2 notes
15:26 ReySHeL: k
15:27 OnosakiHito: 01:57:062 - ~ 01:59:257 - try have less notes as well.
15:27 OnosakiHito: Everything else is fine!
15:28 ReySHeL: :)
15:29 ReySHeL: 01:59:623 - this kkk is ok?
15:29 OnosakiHito: yes.
15:29 OnosakiHito: you can keep if you want.
15:31 OnosakiHito: Sounds like much, but actually there is just a small amount of notes you would need to delete.
15:31 OnosakiHito: Nothing that changes your map really much. Your main patterns and beats remain the same.
15:32 ReySHeL: はい
15:33 ReySHeL: 00:13:160 - ~ 00:24:867 - fixed 01:57:062 - ~ 01:59:989 - fixed 01:26:331 - here now
15:36 OnosakiHito: ok
15:39 ReySHeL: ok fixed. update?
15:39 ReySHeL: max combo: 515
15:43 OnosakiHito: let me check
15:43 OnosakiHito: wait
15:43 ReySHeL: kk
15:44 OnosakiHito: Previously: 265 differenece
15:44 OnosakiHito: Now: 239
15:44 OnosakiHito: still high, but better now!
15:44 OnosakiHito: Let's try.
15:44 ReySHeL: xD
15:44 ReySHeL: update しますね
15:45 OnosakiHito: ok~
15:46 ReySHeL: updated~
15:53 ReySHeL: 02:08:770 - i forgot remove this part lol
15:54 OnosakiHito: sure, just remove
15:54 OnosakiHito: lol
15:55 ReySHeL: yea lol
16:02 OnosakiHito: How do you feel about the map now?
16:03 ReySHeL: good
16:03 ReySHeL: いい感じにnotesをへらせました
16:03 OnosakiHito: 本当にほんとう?
16:03 ReySHeL: yes!
16:03 ReySHeL: 小野崎さんは?
16:03 OnosakiHito: よかったです!
16:03 OnosakiHito: うん!僕も
16:03 ReySHeL: xD
16:04 ReySHeL: ありがとう!
16:09 OnosakiHito: http://puu.sh/b3c5h/03364a03a3.png
16:09 OnosakiHito: much better now
16:09 OnosakiHito: lol
16:10 OnosakiHito: Kantan and Futsuu is close to each other, but well,
16:10 OnosakiHito: Muzu has much more notes, so that's normal.
16:11 OnosakiHito: But you can consider having some deletions in Kantan if you want. Example: 00:36:574 - having more 4/1 patterns than 2/1.
16:11 OnosakiHito: Similar to Futsuu and Muzu. I won't force you here this time. But maybe think about it.
16:12 ReySHeL: ふむ
16:12 OnosakiHito: wwwwww
16:12 ReySHeL: www
16:13 ReySHeL: i think kantan is ok owo
16:13 OnosakiHito: Kantan: http://puu.sh/b3chZ/fa542327ce.jpg because of this
16:13 ReySHeL: lol
16:13 OnosakiHito: You see?
16:13 OnosakiHito: No bigger break than 4/1
16:13 OnosakiHito: lol
16:14 OnosakiHito: I didn't noticed it before, because I saw problems in Futsuu and Muzu.
16:14 ReySHeL: i see
16:20 OnosakiHito: p/3324352
16:21 ReySHeL: >.<
16:21 OnosakiHito: I recommend to have some deletions in Kantan. :P
16:22 OnosakiHito: but for now:
16:22 OnosakiHito: お疲れ!
16:22 ReySHeL: ありがとう!
16:23 OnosakiHito: 今から僕は本当に嬉しいです。
16:23 ReySHeL: それは良かった :D
16:23 OnosakiHito: w
16:24 ReySHeL: 小野崎さんは これに buble / rank できない?
16:24 ReySHeL: bubble*
16:25 OnosakiHito: できないです。それはBATの役です。
16:26 OnosakiHito: After Kantan got some deletions, I'm sure TKS will check!
16:26 OnosakiHito: rank will be easy.
16:27 ReySHeL: kantan need fix?
16:28 OnosakiHito: Some deletions like in Fu and Mu.
16:28 OnosakiHito: You see the spread.
16:28 OnosakiHito: Really sorry that I didn't saw it before!
16:28 OnosakiHito: but it shouldn't be a problem if you check it....?
16:30 ReySHeL: idk where part delete kantan..
16:30 OnosakiHito: Ooh....
16:30 OnosakiHito: should I... help?
16:31 ReySHeL: please help ;w;
16:32 OnosakiHito: xD
16:32 OnosakiHito: ok
16:32 ReySHeL: thanks!
16:33 OnosakiHito: 00:13:160 - ~ 00:24:867 - Same like before. Some deletion are possible. Example:
16:33 OnosakiHito: 00:15:721 (3) -
16:33 OnosakiHito: 00:18:648 (1) - change k
16:34 OnosakiHito: 00:21:574 (3) - delete
16:34 OnosakiHito: Try it. Maybe you like it.
16:35 ReySHeL: うーむ..
16:36 ReySHeL: さみしいw
16:43 OnosakiHito: lol
16:43 OnosakiHito: 00:36:574 - ~ 00:48:282 - You have to delete notes.
16:44 OnosakiHito: Really calm part, so you need 8/1 breaks. Example:
16:44 OnosakiHito: 00:38:038 (5,1) -
16:44 OnosakiHito: 00:40:965 (2,1) -
16:45 ReySHeL: delete?
16:46 OnosakiHito: Yes.
16:46 OnosakiHito: This might sound now strange to you.
16:46 OnosakiHito: But that's what a Kantan should have
16:47 ReySHeL: oh
16:47 ReySHeL: 00:43:892 (1,2) - not delete?
16:49 OnosakiHito: You can do this: http://puu.sh/b3epa/2c0c5b7098.png
16:49 OnosakiHito: 00:42:428 - ~ 00:48:282 -
16:50 OnosakiHito: Ah, summan, going to eat.
16:50 OnosakiHito: back in some minutes!
16:50 ReySHeL: kk!
16:51 ReySHeL: いってらw
17:08 OnosakiHito: ok!
17:08 OnosakiHito: back
17:08 ReySHeL: okaeri!
17:08 OnosakiHito: thanks~
17:08 ReySHeL: kanban deleted some notes :)
17:08 ReySHeL: 182 combo now
17:09 OnosakiHito: 00:13:160 - ~ 00:24:867 - Some deleted?
17:09 ReySHeL: yes
17:09 OnosakiHito: 00:36:574 - ~ 00:48:282 - Some deleted?
17:09 ReySHeL: yes
17:09 ReySHeL: 00:27:062 - 00:32:916 - too
17:10 OnosakiHito: Perfect!
17:10 OnosakiHito: You understood what I mean.
17:10 ReySHeL: thanks :D
17:10 OnosakiHito: Kiai is fine. Maybe notes like this 00:56:696 (2) - can be deleted.
17:11 OnosakiHito: Fits well to song, but such notes aren't always needed.
17:11 OnosakiHito: In Kantan, you don't map to all sounds.
17:11 ReySHeL: oh
17:11 OnosakiHito: 00:57:062 - ~ 00:59:989 - less notes like in muzu / futsuu
17:12 OnosakiHito: Maybe 00:57:062 - ~ 01:01:452 - is better.
17:12 OnosakiHito: 01:08:404 (1) - same as before.
17:13 ReySHeL: deleted both
17:13 OnosakiHito: http://puu.sh/b3fQC/0e08bb567a.png 01:08:770 - ~ 01:14:623 -
17:13 OnosakiHito: ^ So you have here 01:09:867 - a break.
17:14 ReySHeL: http://puu.sh/b3fQC/0e08bb567a.png どこだ
17:15 OnosakiHito: 01:14:623 ~ - 01:26:331 - Better remove some, because look at Futsuu. A bit similar.
17:15 OnosakiHito: そこに 01:08:770 -
17:17 ReySHeL: 01:08:404 - d 01:08:770 - k ?
17:18 OnosakiHito: 貴方のidea?
17:18 ReySHeL: ちがう
17:18 ReySHeL: http://puu.sh/b3fQC/0e08bb567a.png
17:18 OnosakiHito: oh
17:18 ReySHeL: これがわからない
17:18 ReySHeL: ばしょ
17:18 OnosakiHito: 01:07:306 - d
17:18 OnosakiHito: 01:08:404 - k
17:18 OnosakiHito: 01:08:770 - d
17:18 OnosakiHito: 01:09:501 - k
17:19 OnosakiHito: 01:10:599 - d
17:19 OnosakiHito: 01:10:965 - k
17:19 OnosakiHito: 01:11:696 - ...
17:20 OnosakiHito: 01:07:306 - ~ 01:14:623 - はこの芸です|http://puu.sh/b3fQC/0e08bb567a.png
17:20 OnosakiHito: あああああああああああああああああ
17:20 OnosakiHito: すまんすまん、いええいええいええいええ
17:20 OnosakiHito: 違うです。
17:20 ReySHeL: :o
17:20 OnosakiHito: 僕はわるいwww
17:20 ReySHeL: おk
17:21 ReySHeL: wwww
17:21 OnosakiHito: 01:08:770 - ~ 01:14:623 - このTimelineはいまの芸です|http://puu.sh/b3fQC/0e08bb567a.png
17:22 OnosakiHito: 一番ドンのTimelineは 01:08:770 - です。
17:22 OnosakiHito: 01:08:770 -
17:22 OnosakiHito: 今、Reyさんは分かる?w
17:23 ReySHeL: えっと
17:23 OnosakiHito: はい?
17:23 ReySHeL: いちばんひだりのdが
17:23 ReySHeL: 01:08:770 -
17:23 ReySHeL: ここ?
17:23 OnosakiHito: はい
17:23 ReySHeL: やっとわかったw
17:23 OnosakiHito: XD
17:25 ReySHeL: nice rhythm
17:25 ReySHeL: :D
17:25 OnosakiHito: \:3/
17:26 OnosakiHito: 01:14:623 - ~ 01:26:331 - Delete some notes. Density is similar to Futsuu.
17:26 OnosakiHito: Example:
17:29 OnosakiHito: http://puu.sh/b3gNj/dd1d7dfdee.png
17:29 OnosakiHito: hidari d ha 01:14:623 (1) -
17:29 OnosakiHito: migi d ha 01:26:331 (1) -
17:29 OnosakiHito: All don are finisher
17:29 ReySHeL: ok
17:30 OnosakiHito: Just example. You can make your own patterns if you don't like.
17:30 ReySHeL: わかりました
17:33 OnosakiHito: 01:49:745 (3,4) - Recommend to delete.
17:33 OnosakiHito: 01:42:062 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This pattern was really long.
17:33 OnosakiHito: So having a big break at 01:49:745 - is important.
17:34 ReySHeL: ok
17:34 OnosakiHito: 01:56:696 (1) - can be delete like before.
17:34 OnosakiHito: 01:57:062 - Same like 00:57:062 -
17:35 ReySHeL: yes :)
17:35 OnosakiHito: 02:08:404 (1) - Maybe delete like before.
17:35 OnosakiHito: everything else is fine!
17:35 ReySHeL: xD
17:35 OnosakiHito: もうやったですか?やったか?!あああああ
17:36 ReySHeL: やったw 
17:36 ReySHeL: 01:14:623 - いまここ編集中ww
17:36 OnosakiHito: 神様お願いします!力をgive ussss
17:36 ReySHeL: www
17:36 OnosakiHito: ()()中
17:36 ReySHeL: へんしゅう
17:37 OnosakiHito: 編集
17:37 OnosakiHito: 編集中
17:37 ReySHeL: yea
17:37 OnosakiHito: ok w
17:38 ReySHeL: ok fixed w
17:38 OnosakiHito: Everzthing finished_
17:39 ReySHeL: updateしますね
17:39 OnosakiHito: ok~
17:41 ReySHeL: 01:49:745 (3,4) - i want this cuz 00:49:745 (3,4) -
17:41 ReySHeL: :(
17:42 ReySHeL: 01:44:623 - deleted
17:42 OnosakiHito: Maybe delete 01:50:843 (5) - then?
17:42 OnosakiHito: oooh
17:43 OnosakiHito: you deleted 01:44:623 - okay!
17:43 OnosakiHito: Good! THta's what I wanted to suggest before.
17:43 ReySHeL: :D
17:43 ReySHeL: thanks!
17:43 OnosakiHito: You understand the way I see it better and better!
17:43 ReySHeL: www
17:43 OnosakiHito: :3
17:44 ReySHeL: updated!
17:44 OnosakiHito: niceeeee
17:44 OnosakiHito: 192 -> 169
17:45 ReySHeL: xD
17:48 OnosakiHito: 01:14:623 - ~ 01:26:331 - Well, still consecutive mapping in this part. main beat is 4/1, so having bigger breaks would be better. But...
17:48 OnosakiHito: if you really want it, let's keep it.
17:48 ReySHeL: ok
17:48 OnosakiHito: Change or keep?
17:49 ReySHeL: keep
17:49 OnosakiHito: ok
17:51 ReySHeL: waiting for TKS now?

(You can kudosu this, since my previous post was excluded of it)
thanks Onosaki-san! :)
karterfreak
There's one small thing I noticed while rechecking, and I'm fairly sure I'm right on this.

01:21:087 (6) - This is incorrectly snapped in both the Muzukashii and Oni. The note doesn't hit the 1/3 tick and actually starts on the 1/2 tick at 01:21:026.

02:21:087 (6) - Same as above.

Get back to me once you look at this and I'll rebubble.
Topic Starter
ReySHeL

Tasha wrote:

There's one small thing I noticed while rechecking, and I'm fairly sure I'm right on this.

01:21:087 (6) - This is incorrectly snapped in both the Muzukashii and Oni. The note doesn't hit the 1/3 tick and actually starts on the 1/2 tick at 01:21:026.

02:21:087 (6) - Same as above.

Get back to me once you look at this and I'll rebubble.
fixed.
thanks for checking Tasha!
karterfreak
Boop
OnosakiHito
See how fast it can be Reyshel \:D/
Topic Starter
ReySHeL

Tasha wrote:

Boop
thanks!

OnosakiHito wrote:

See how fast it can be Reyshel \:D/
<3
Topic Starter
ReySHeL
i forgot to add some finishes in Futsuu :(
but i cant update now..
Love
point them out to the next bat and see if they agree, I can't do anything though :<
TKS
足あと ペタ
mintong89
Alright! Checked and everything is fine. Enjoy your rank.

Ranked!
Topic Starter
ReySHeL

mintong89 wrote:

Alright! Checked and everything is fine. Enjoy your rank.

Ranked!
thanks mint! :)
Stefan
Congrats!
Nardoxyribonucleic
Congrats ReySHeL~ \:D/
qoot8123
recongrats ~ :D
Dainesl
Re-congrats!!
-Sh1n1-
Congratz again :3
wasonz

qoot8123 wrote:

recongrats ~ :D
OnosakiHito
Yeah, congratulation!
PatZar
gratz~~*-*
soulfear
おめでとう!Deemo面白いね!
0gre_old
rey さん..


                                                                            おめでとう!
NAI_old_1
good!
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