From tons of BNs that got promoted, taiko only got one. 
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Gratz Nardo ovo/
/Gratz Nardo ovo/
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speaking of the list, can you move Love to alumni
edit : i see.. okay then~
I have no idea if there are still lack of taiko BN, I think we should have more BN first.
In essence: encourage modding, give or take excellent quality mods. They can improve much more significantly after becoming a BN.
Although this idea doesn't really take into account the application and judgement process so, that is something we'll have to mull over further.
sorry for trouble ~
Agree this comment, new modders should change the concept about the taiko mod, taiko mod is not just suggest d and k, of course some reason is about language barrier , but actually there are a lot of elements about taiko map, like patterns, flow , notes structure...etc,and we should focus more on the whole map instead of single note.
And about the solution ,I don't want to give more suggestion, lots of mapper and lack of modder, it is already disorder.
Guide on how to mod taiko properly? No nvm i doubt that's going to work.
Introducing a good way to mod for new modder is hard, because we can see in plain sight that taiko is just about don and kat, but they actually not. Just admit it guys, we all started like that. (at least for me it was. lols)
I think that the ranking criteria doesn't get to everyone, ex : difficulty spread (both hybrid and fullset, which is new to modder but some modder just brush it off and start modding general thing as kat and don here and there)
Last time i mod a bubbled map, s/he rejects almost of what i said, only accepting one mod from me, although my ear is not deceiving me alright. And i can't do a thing about that /sad/
I really wanted to say that somewhere..
I guess what makes we (at least, me) lazy to mod things is that the mapper :
1. "I don't care, what i map is right." impression from the mapper (Although the spread is kinda screwed up)
2. Yeah ok *applies all mod* then change them back when another modder suggest the same thing as before. Feels like our work is good-for-awhile-only
3. "Not changed" "keep it for now" replies actually lower my modding ambition (wrote a long reason, then changed it with two-three words. blah)
Probably what the best solution is recruiting BN (if it's really necessary), but again, like MMzz said recruiting means forcing and forcing doesn't always mean they want to do the job properly.
Welp, i'm just writing what's on my mind right now. I know my wording is bad. Sorry for that. >_>
Don't we need a new thread to discuss this, instead of this thread which says 'List'?
Gray Veyron is still unexperienced at modding Taiko.
However, if he gains some modding experience he could as well be added here :3
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Thanks all of you for the support :3/
gratz nerdo Nardo XD
i've tell this so many time but still
gratznerdo Nardo XD
i've tell this so many time but still
gratz
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True. Had this concern, too. But I think a bit recognition for people who were a lot active in this game mode isn't bad at all. After all, beside notable people we have nothing else for Taiko guys. And new people should know their predecessor.Loctav wrote:
Why? This is totally unrelated to BNG and QAT stuff and interests no one who looks up that thread...
Dang. Three of the best taiko Bn gone. 
Loctav we need replacements!
Loctav we need replacements!
They are still BNs.. Alumni only means "retired from staff". BNs are no staff members.
o.o I think I am totally being forgot.
lolcubes for taco alumni pls╭( ･ㅂ･)و
added you in the alumm list.kanpakyin wrote:
o.o I think I am totally being forgot.
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Thanks, had no time in the last week. I've added them when kanpakyin was still a QAT. Also, only retiered staff members should be added, which is the case atm. Added some more!
new taiko BN Genocide \:D/
time for me to genocide \:D/
ayy lmao gratz genocide
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YAY 
Quite a surprise, and a pleasant one. Welcome back, lolcubes.
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wb *runs*
wb *runs*
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New BNGs incoming..
No new taiko BN this month
so sad
so sad
RIP Taiko BN workload 
I will try to be in next month (hopefully)
But so sad, Taiko has the least BN now right? ;-;
But so sad, Taiko has the least BN now right? ;-;
no
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If certain mappers need revision for the modding, they can ask me for help. We can also go for mentoring. It's not the first time I do so, but I guess first time I annnounce it. lol
But don't forget, I have also much to do in university and as QAT.
But don't forget, I have also much to do in university and as QAT.
8 mods per last 3 months can be a bit hard to meet if you had to disappear for any one month at a time orz
once streak broken, you need to wait another 3 months orz
once streak broken, you need to wait another 3 months orz
RIP new BN for this month
let me try again this month!
let me try again this month!
Interesting to see.OnosakiHito wrote:
If certain mappers need revision for the modding, they can ask me for help. We can also go for mentoring. It's not the first time I do so, but I guess first time I annnounce it. lol
But don't forget, I have also much to do in university and as QAT.
I would try again, but it's all the system's fault! 180 kudos
NO RAGRETS <3
NO RAGRETS <3
180 kudosu is hard ... but any mod for me is good -w- (only have 55 kudos)
180 is not much
Also, you can apply with less if you are really active
I for example had enough activity (Jan 22, Feb 23, Mar 16 as of application) but I only had 159 kudosu then
Looking at mod score I could have gotten it, so #kudosu is not that improtant if you are really active though
Also, you can apply with less if you are really active
I for example had enough activity (Jan 22, Feb 23, Mar 16 as of application) but I only had 159 kudosu then
Looking at mod score I could have gotten it, so #kudosu is not that improtant if you are really active though
edit : i see.. okay then~
He is still actively modding, so we will keep him there.
The only reason he is alumni is because he was part of the old Taiko BAT.
The only reason he is alumni is because he was part of the old Taiko BAT.
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Two BNs removed. 7 left.
Who are removed?
Geno and ?
Geno and ?
dunno
TKS.
At least BN apps are open again.
At least BN apps are open again.
actually Stefan
So now we have the least number of BNs among four game modes. Hopefully there will be newcomers.
I've entered
Hopefully more Taco BN will come in now
But why did Stefan en Geno go out of it?
Hopefully more Taco BN will come in now
But why did Stefan en Geno go out of it?
Stefan is.. obvious on his userpage.
Genocide is (probably) for his inappropriate behaviour Loctav had said three days ago (about miconducting blah)
Genocide is (probably) for his inappropriate behaviour Loctav had said three days ago (about miconducting blah)
Taiko BN actually needs recruit but leave always more than incomes.
In this case, i am trying to apply to be a part of Taiko BN
and hope we have more new taiko BN at least ;w;
goodluck to all who apply ;w;
and hope we have more new taiko BN at least ;w;
goodluck to all who apply ;w;
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I have some ideas what we could possibly do. But before that, maybe some of you could give some ideas as well, as in, how we can make our current state somehow better.
let's wait for the next wave first
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Don't have too much hope. It won't be a solution on a long time run.Nwolf wrote:
let's wait for the next wave first
Currently the minima to get in the BN is a bit high for me, may gonna wait few months.
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No one here who could give some input?
I'd wait until the next wave comes in (which'll probably be Niko and me, and perhaps others as well)
Then we'll see what happens next
Then we'll see what happens next
OnosakiHito wrote:
No one here who could give some input?
I have no idea if there are still lack of taiko BN, I think we should have more BN first.
Encourage modding by organizing queues that are more focused on a quantitative approach first, and then after a good period of grinding modder score/kd to be added to the BN, spend time enforcing qualitative modding. I think your goal should be to get people onto the BN so that more maps can flow into qualified. Once there are more BNs, they can improve their modding quality through the disqualifications they receive and the advice given to them by their peers. Remember, DQs aren't a bad thing, they can be good learning experiences if applied right.OnosakiHito wrote:
I have some ideas what we could possibly do. But before that, maybe some of you could give some ideas as well, as in, how we can make our current state somehow better.
In essence: encourage modding, give or take excellent quality mods. They can improve much more significantly after becoming a BN.
Although this idea doesn't really take into account the application and judgement process so, that is something we'll have to mull over further.
Recruiting more Taiko BNs is the prerequisite of improving the current situation. Once we have got more members, the workload of individual BN would be lighter and we could handle mod requests in a more efficient way. However, I think that those who want to become a Taiko BN should have at least the necessary modding skills (e.g. to give constructive mods with respect to mappers' intention or style), otherwise they may not bring real benefits to the modding process.OnosakiHito wrote:
No one here who could give some input?
^Senritsu wrote:
Genocide is (probably) for his inappropriate behaviour Loctav had said three days ago (about miconducting blah)
sorry for trouble ~
Imo, these discussions are just putting unessecary pressure on the BN. Nothing will help unless we push for some taiko BNs outside of the application process. The requirments are insane for a taiko only modder. (180 kd is a lot in taiko)
Dont tell people to be more active than they possibly can. Tldr.
Dont tell people to be more active than they possibly can. Tldr.
180kds isn't that much mmzz.
i can reach 180kd in 2months(or 2months 13days)
i can reach 180kd in 2months(or 2months 13days)
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Discussions are needed if you ask me. Not to push current BNs, but to address problems once and talk a bit about it. Nowadays when it's about treating them, we are way too slow and do no move at all, which doesn't help us either. This helps to recall our current situation. Just waiting for BNs won't help here, or at least, will probably take way too much time. You said it already, gaining 180 kudosu is for Taiko guys really hard.
It might not be hard for you Geno, but for people like me who only mod infrequently and on request it's quite a lot 
There does indeed need to be a change
There are very little Taiko mappers, so also very little mod requests
Of all my kudosu, most of it (80%+) was from standard, and only a small amount (10%-) from taiko, which is a shame
If there are more Taiko mappers, there will be more mods ---> More BN
Also, 57 entries on MBC (Taiko) is good, a lot of people mapped for taiko, which at least is a good start, right?
There are very little Taiko mappers, so also very little mod requests
Of all my kudosu, most of it (80%+) was from standard, and only a small amount (10%-) from taiko, which is a shame
If there are more Taiko mappers, there will be more mods ---> More BN
Also, 57 entries on MBC (Taiko) is good, a lot of people mapped for taiko, which at least is a good start, right?
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It's rather the other way: We have more mappers than modders. Modders can't compensate this amount.
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It's rather the other way: We have more mappers than modders. Modders can't compensate this amount.
maybe encourage mappers that aim for rank to also mod by having m4m only for a few months?
I don't understand why you guys want to push big ideas on such a small community. Stop trying to force people to do stuff. It doesn't matter if there are more mappers than modders, you can't force them to mod, and we have nothing to give them as an intensive. If you want there to be activity, go and be active, don't complain that no one is being active. It's not anyone's fault that there isn't much activity. Taiko has always been this way because it is small.
More like lacking modders, we lack good modders. I see a considerable ammount of people modding with just "x time - d, y time - K, etc.". Not that that's bad, experienced mappers would analize those suggestions, but new mappers would likely just follow them and sometimes it's not for the best of the map.
The only factible "solution" would be mentoring the novice modders so they can improve faster, we get nice taiko modders and potential BNs for the future, resulting in the community growing, maybe not as fast as you could desire, but better than being stagnated.
The only factible "solution" would be mentoring the novice modders so they can improve faster, we get nice taiko modders and potential BNs for the future, resulting in the community growing, maybe not as fast as you could desire, but better than being stagnated.
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More like lacking modders, we lack good modders. I see a considerable ammount of people modding with just "x time - d, y time - K, etc.". Not that that's bad, experienced mappers would analize those suggestions, but new mappers would likely just follow them and sometimes it's not for the best of the map.
The only factible "solution" would be mentoring the novice modders so they can improve faster, we get nice taiko modders and potential BNs for the future, resulting in the community growing, maybe not as fast as you could desire, but better than being stagnated.
Agree this comment, new modders should change the concept about the taiko mod, taiko mod is not just suggest d and k, of course some reason is about language barrier , but actually there are a lot of elements about taiko map, like patterns, flow , notes structure...etc,and we should focus more on the whole map instead of single note.
And about the solution ,I don't want to give more suggestion, lots of mapper and lack of modder, it is already disorder.
Introducing a good way to mod for new modder is hard, because we can see in plain sight that taiko is just about don and kat, but they actually not. Just admit it guys, we all started like that. (at least for me it was. lols)
I think that the ranking criteria doesn't get to everyone, ex : difficulty spread (both hybrid and fullset, which is new to modder but some modder just brush it off and start modding general thing as kat and don here and there)
Last time i mod a bubbled map, s/he rejects almost of what i said, only accepting one mod from me, although my ear is not deceiving me alright. And i can't do a thing about that /sad/
I really wanted to say that somewhere..
I guess what makes we (at least, me) lazy to mod things is that the mapper :
1. "I don't care, what i map is right." impression from the mapper (Although the spread is kinda screwed up)
2. Yeah ok *applies all mod* then change them back when another modder suggest the same thing as before. Feels like our work is good-for-awhile-only
3. "Not changed" "keep it for now" replies actually lower my modding ambition (wrote a long reason, then changed it with two-three words. blah)
Probably what the best solution is recruiting BN (if it's really necessary), but again, like MMzz said recruiting means forcing and forcing doesn't always mean they want to do the job properly.
Welp, i'm just writing what's on my mind right now. I know my wording is bad. Sorry for that. >_>
Don't we need a new thread to discuss this, instead of this thread which says 'List'?
Well, well, well...
It's sad I have to tell this, but we're already reaching dead points right now. Prepareto slap my face because it's probably pure bullshit.
Enough blah.
Let's say things straight : Our mode is currently agonizing. Some people have talked about mentoring modders so they can access the BNG but I doubt it's gonna work, as (I think it will be this way) the BN will have to deal with lots of beginning modders AND lots of maps which will be even worse for them.
Of course since we, as BN, are supposed to push forward maps that we want to see ranked, we are also allowed to say no to requests. But sometimes mappers can't get any BN and will either let their mapset die or, in case of hybrids, see them gone. And that will probably enter a vicious circle to death.
The solution I can provide will be unbelievable but it has to be this: Change nothing. You'll probably throw tomatos to my face but this has to be said: There are far more Taiko modders than you might imagine, the only problem being their activity. Some modders that are already worthy of BNGsip are lazy as hell, the others are really dedicated into helping the others and will probably eventually access the Group. Don't forget that these dedicated modders may also have started in the past three months and are currently unable to apply.
It's sad I have to tell this, but we're already reaching dead points right now. Prepare
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So now we have the least number of BNs among four game modes. Hopefully there will be newcomers.That's the saddest thing to hear. We're probably one of the most prolific game mode, and the second oldest mode (first being, of course, osu! standard) in the game. The fact that we are the least represented with only seven active people shows the opposite of our will to get our maps ranked.
Taiko BN actually needs recruit but leave always more than incomes.And if we don't have anyone to help the situation will be worse as time passes.
It's already not one right now. Some maps are stuck already, and I foresee deletions of Taiko GD or mapsets, and some might already think about that, due to too many refusals.let's wait for the next wave firstDon't have too much hope. It won't be a solution on a long time run.
180kds isn't that muchIt is. I entered the first wave of newBAT with only 193.
Dont tell people to be more active than they possibly can.8 mods/month is still a fairly high amount (at least in Taiko and CTB) considering anything can happen real-life-wise. And that the minimal value.
However, I think that those who want to become a Taiko BN should have at least the necessary modding skills (e.g. to give constructive mods with respect to mappers' intention or style), otherwise they may not bring real benefits to the modding process.The true problem is, as qoot stated, the language barrier. I recall, at the beginning of 2014, that TKS went into the BAT despite being nowhere near fluent in English but he gave short explanations with the English he had. However, if they mod a map made from a mapper of their own country, they can still do in their native language. Otherwise, they can still try modding; even with a low baggage most mappers can still understand what they mean.
This helps to recall our current situation. Just waiting for BNs won't help here, or at least, will probably take way too much time.And as I repeatedly say (not in #taiko though) at that rate, the mode will end up dying.
Enough blah.
Let's say things straight : Our mode is currently agonizing. Some people have talked about mentoring modders so they can access the BNG but I doubt it's gonna work, as (I think it will be this way) the BN will have to deal with lots of beginning modders AND lots of maps which will be even worse for them.
Of course since we, as BN, are supposed to push forward maps that we want to see ranked, we are also allowed to say no to requests. But sometimes mappers can't get any BN and will either let their mapset die or, in case of hybrids, see them gone. And that will probably enter a vicious circle to death.
The solution I can provide will be unbelievable but it has to be this: Change nothing. You'll probably throw tomatos to my face but this has to be said: There are far more Taiko modders than you might imagine, the only problem being their activity. Some modders that are already worthy of BNGsip are lazy as hell, the others are really dedicated into helping the others and will probably eventually access the Group. Don't forget that these dedicated modders may also have started in the past three months and are currently unable to apply.
^
Srsly, as the mapper that has 3 maps dyimg cause no BN is checking; wh, Octaikon, Anime Medley(Already deleted, huh).
Srsly, as the mapper that has 3 maps dyimg cause no BN is checking; wh, Octaikon, Anime Medley(Already deleted, huh).
Wow
Taiko doesn't even have the least BN
We have8 now (IIRC) Nevermind, I can't count, we have 7, Ctb has 5
Taiko has 3 QAT, Ctb only 2
Still very little though >_<
Edit: I also agree with the dying maps
Stupid Remember me >_<
Little activity in Taiko BN tempt me to only submit STD maps (5 submitted, 4 STD, 1 hybrid)
Taiko doesn't even have the least BN
We have
Taiko has 3 QAT, Ctb only 2
Still very little though >_<
Edit: I also agree with the dying maps
Stupid Remember me >_<
Little activity in Taiko BN tempt me to only submit STD maps (5 submitted, 4 STD, 1 hybrid)
New Taiko BN is coming \:D/
Yay, it's really good to hear. \:D/
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11.05.2015 - Added JUDYDANNY into the BNG, congratulation!
(hold your requests a bit and be soft to him / her. Don't wanna scare lol)
(hold your requests a bit and be soft to him / her. Don't wanna scare lol)
: D
congratulations Judy! You deserved it :3
congratulations Judy! You deserved it :3
Congratulation JUDYDANNY :3
gratz again JUDYDANNY!
sry for the sneaky nomination tho o7
sry for the sneaky nomination tho o7
Gratz Judydanny! o/
Yay Judy.
gratz Judy~
Gratz Judy :3
come on guys.... im back into osu!.... make me an important taiko guy already...
gratz baka judy :>
https://twitter.com/Xandremin/status/597735306352295936
i think i did it enough there ^
i think i did it enough there ^
you're not going to add Julie's name to the list, Ono? lol
Also gratz Juda~ www
Also gratz Juda~ www
Just noticed
Grey Veyron shiuld be on here as well, right?
Has mods Taiko and bubbles it as well, yet he isn't on the list
Forgot him perhaps?
Also, congratz Judy (little late >_<)
Oh, Ozzy, you'll get a BN soon if you want (3 months (sorry)), Never give up
Grey Veyron shiuld be on here as well, right?
Has mods Taiko and bubbles it as well, yet he isn't on the list
Forgot him perhaps?
Also, congratz Judy (little late >_<)
Oh, Ozzy, you'll get a BN soon if you want (3 months (sorry)), Never give up
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I only add those who are fully capable of Taiko. Not adding everyone here.
Also, every BN is allowed to mod other modes.
Also, every BN is allowed to mod other modes.
baraatje123 wrote:
Just noticed
Grey Veyron shiuld be on here as well, right?
Has mods Taiko and bubbles it as well, yet he isn't on the list
Forgot him perhaps?
Also, congratz Judy (little late >_<)
Oh, Ozzy, you'll get a BN soon if you want (3 months (sorry)), Never give up
Gray Veyron is still unexperienced at modding Taiko.
However, if he gains some modding experience he could as well be added here :3
people aren't hyping again for this month lol
lmfao, hi august dam son
`L_` dam son
<(``) patzar bakah ngek
<(``) patzar bakah ngek
4 days until the new BNG batch
Hopefully more Taco BN
Hopefully more Taco BN
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08.06.2015 - Moved DakeDekaane into the QAT, congratulation and welcome!
How many people are gonna be QAT lol
congrats baka Dekaane :3
congrats baka Dekaane :3