wendao wrote:

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[General]

1. tolong dicek kembali Combo Colour yang digunakan, sepertinya banyak kesalahan (setelah fix fix mod, apalagi di diff teratas Terror)

[Easy]

1. about SliderMultiplier... nvm.
2. 00:25:953 (4) - dibikin slider 2/1? (end at 00:26:433) gk ah soalnya ane mau bikin diff ini gampang bgt
3. 00:30:753 - kalo dikasih Normal 5% rasanya aneh (masih ada 'tuk' nya gitu.. entah kenapa), ganti jadi Soft aja mendingan
4. 01:03:393 (1) - use Normal Sampleset and Soft Additions (on head)
5. 01:03:633 - not used inherited points itu efek slider slider nya bagus, tapi entah lah (itu mah cuma tanda doang)
6. 01:11:073 (1) - same as above kagok ini mah finish dh keras
7. 01:12:513 (3) - same (on tail); tapi tambahin Normal Sampleset di head sama repeat juga bagus
8. 01:14:433 (6) - Normal Sampleset
9. 01:14:913 (1,2) - Normal Sampleset on tail
10. 01:16:833 (1) - Normal Sampleset + Soft Additions why normal sampleset?
    --- main main sama sampleset + additions nya aja ---
11. 01:40:593 - slidertick here quite annoying, kurangin volumenya terus ganti jadi soft ini kan buat mempermudah player nentuin beat
12. 01:48:273 - ^
13. 02:23:553 - blank banget rasanya, apalagi dilihat dari kiai sebelumnya
14. 02:27:393 - ^ ini pattern" keren loh
15. 02:33:633 - not used inherited points
16. 02:36:513 - use Soft Samplesets here
17. 03:30:513 - not used inherited points
18. 04:00:993 - not used inherited points
19. 04:04:833 - NC
20. 04:07:713 - remove
21. 04:08:673 - NC

[Normal]

• 
  --- check for unused inherited points as well ---

1. CS 3.5? ketika Hard - Terror CS 4? no. CS 3 pls wai?? ini kalau digedein circle nya nanti banyak overlap, ini juga circle kecil dh banyak yg overlap
2. 01:05:793 (1) - a
3. 01:34:113 (1,2,3,4,5) - the pattern way too complex for Normal; Holding your finger on keyboard is hard you know
4. 01:52:113 (5) - delete this circle yeh itu jelas bgt ada sesuatu
5. 02:24:993 (3,4,5,6,7) - same.
   --- disarankan jangan pake pattern (Slider - Circle - Slider - Circle - Slider) --- oke oke, considering this
6. 02:36:513 - soft samplesets here too
7. 02:58:593 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - worst case
8. 03:21:633 (7) - mending dibikin slider terus end di 03:22:593 - buat konsistensi semua diff
9. 03:57:153 (1) - err... salah pake combo colour atau gimana ya gk kok itu sengaja
10. 04:04:833 (1) - ^ sama
11. 04:11:553 - strong beatnya disini, jadi lebih baik slidernya mulai darisini 3/2 slider + 3/2 pattern = gud lol
12. 04:14:433 - 04:29:673 - kalo gw BN mungkin gw ga bakal rank ini, well, just tbh da ini mah apa atuh~, ini lagu 250 BPM jadi player itu merasakan sensasi kegilaan normal wkwkwkwk

[Hard]

1. lebih pantas CS 3.5 oke deh
2. patternnya kompleks banget, beda jauh dari Normal, no wonder why the gap is big (1.3 loh) sebab itulah ane bikin normal ane kaya gitu
3. 00:23:793 - a
4. 01:05:313 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - banyak inconsistent jump nya, too lazy to replicate, lalala
5. 01:13:953 (5,6,7,8) - not sure 'bout this one, ask BN
6. 02:16:113 (5,1) - misread as 1/2 (ini beda keliatannya dari 01:49:233 (6,1) - atau 02:19:953 (3,1) - ) mana mungkin missread lah disini klo pattern sebelumnya itu 1/2
7. 02:29:313 (5) - 1/1
8. 02:35:193 (5,6,7,8) - err... no? strim lah kali" lmao
9. 02:36:513 - and another "soft samplesets here too"
10. 02:48:513 (4) - dibikin slider 1/1 ? circlew aja deh
11. 03:08:673 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - for me it's all messed up (03:09:033 (3,1,3,1) - looks stupid) biar greget ini
12. 04:12:033 (5,6,7,8,9) - it was four, and now it's five
13. 04:13:473 - highly recommended to put circle / slider here (break between kiai just very bad)

[Insane]

1. 00:21:153 - NC
2. 00:24:993 - NC
3. 00:28:833 - NC
   --- or simply remove NC from 00:17:313 (1) ---
4. udah berani nyicip 1/4 disini ya, padahal Hard saja baru nyoba-nyoba 1/2 `-` biarin ini buat nyeimbangin Hard sama Another yg edan edanan lah diif nya
5. 01:20:673 - normal sampleset dh soft sampleset
6. 01:22:593 (1,2,3) - misread as 1/2
7. 01:23:433 (5,6,7) - ^ (dibikin jauh lebih deket aja; kayak 01:25:953 (6,7,8))
8. 01:24:153 (8,9,10) - well... I guess this one is okay
9. 01:44:673 (1,2,3,4) - arah jumpnya itu masih spacing kakak
10. 02:05:793 - another another another soft sampleset gk ah itu suaranya jelas bgt normal sampleset
11. 02:33:633 (1,2) - supposed to be 3/4 sliders :/
12. 02:36:513 - soft sampleset
13. 04:07:953 (2) - 44,180 much better

[Another]

1. Another? Another what
2. 01:14:913 - 01:18:033 - seharusnya bisa disubstitute pake Normal Sampleset aja, ga mesti banyak-banyak inherited points ini kerek keles *runs
3. 01:36:993 (1,2,3,4) - cool concept flower
4. 02:24:693 (4) - out-of-beat circle, remove
5. 02:47:073 (1,2) - cool
6. 02:47:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - http://puu.sh/h29QX.jpg sepertinya patternnya kurang greget

[Extra]

1. buat Extra dan Terror sih sebenarnya ga bakal banyak masalah soalnya cuma nambah 1/4 doang dari diff Insane dan Another~
2. well, cuma excuse buat "males ngemod Extra + Terror" sih... :/
3. 00:32:193 (1) - kurangin volumenya
   --- applies to all 1/8 ---
4. 01:03:393 (1) - a itu sih sengaja

Mazzerin wrote:

terror
00:19:233 (1,2,3) - allign so its straight https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2976676
00:28:713 (5) - add 1/2 reverse slider until 00:29:313 (circle here) for the vocals, can also add another slider at 00:29:073 cuz sound strong (try this http://puu.sh/h2iHj/272d85fca5.jpg) but i want this intro keep calm
00:47:553 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this curve doesnt look nice try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2976712 change a bit
01:47:193 (6) - this could be at x30 y84 i think too far
01:49:953 (5) - ctrl+g? kinda break previous flow
01:54:153 (7) - ^ its okay for this since this one easier without ctrl+g
01:56:073 (1) - ^ distance between 01:56:073 (1,2) - is very good with jump
02:01:473 (5) - ^ let me change direction of jump since it easier to read
02:52:113 (2,3) - holy shit thats a big jump, try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2976747
03:30:273 (1) - raise volume on this pls
03:47:553 (1,3) - ctrl g (separately) will considering this
extra
00:29:073 (2) - change to 1/2 reverse slider why? D:
01:38:673 (7) - move this to something like x389 y197
02:23:313 (2,3) - awkward i think, move to x248 y167 overlaps is real lmao
02:24:993 (1) - ctrl g? ummm maybe no i think
02:55:233 (5,6) - ctrl g (separately) this pattern confusing me, i will considering fix this pattern
02:56:193 (5) - ctrl g dat spacing, hard to reach >.<
03:03:153 (6,7) - ctrl g? ummm, keep it i think
03:30:273 (1) - make volume higher
poor mod, clean map:( good job

LGV894 wrote:

So here it is, Fort.

Normal

- This is only for aesthetics but, I think it would be better if you used 1.3x DS on 1/1s because some circles/sliders are colliding with each other. (e.g. 00:33:633 (2,3,4) -) keep distance consistant

Hard

- 00:40:353 (1,2,3,4) - Random 1/2 pattern-chan appears. I don't think it fits well especially because you only did it one time. something change there

- 02:54:753 (1) - 02:58:593 (1) - 03:02:433 (1) - It would be fun if these things were 1.4/1.6 jumps, but if you want to keep it mono-DS, then it's ok.

- 03:06:273 - It would also be fun if the blue (1)s were jumps. keep distance consistant >.<

- I really think that a few jumps would be nice to see in this diff, but 1 DS is also fine if you really want it.

Insane

- I think 00:32:673 (1,3) - these two sliders are better off this way, because I love circular flow. but i like anticircular


- 00:36:513 (1,2,3,4) - I don't like this 1/2 spam thing you did.

- 00:44:193 (1,2) - Why don't you make this a jump too? Because 00:40:353 (1,2) - 00:42:273 (1,2) - are jumps too, just to make it consistent. Ctrl+G 00:44:433 (2) - and rotate it a bit, maybe? no i guess too hard to read that stack pattern

- 01:34:113 (1,2,3,4) - Pattern inconsistency. And why is the first pattern (01:34:113 (1,2,3,4) - ) more difficult than the next ones (01:37:953 (1,2,3,4) -, 01:41:793 (1,2,3,4) -) ? Maybe Ctrl+G 01:34:353 (2) - and 01:34:833 (4) -. roll back ctrl+g pattern

- 04:14:913 (4,5) - Random jump-chan appears. Why? Either make it consistent or remove that jump. pls, its not random

That's it. Can't mod diffs. above Insane, because I can't understand your mapping style in those diffs. Good luck with this mapset. I hope it gets ranked soon.

LeeoS wrote:

I love this map so much
This map needs to be ranked
Thanks Fort !

Euny wrote:

i want to more shoot

Rumia- wrote:

fav mapper inc.

1. I did not like a bit that rhythm you did in kiai 01:34:113 - and 02:50:913 - , bc the "durududin-durududin" is a melody more intuitive. but well...
   Many of my suggestion are for avoid the polarity issues.
2. 01:41:313 (5) - i really think is bad idea this note for a easy... pls, consider delete, or maybe make some like this:
   
3. 02:00:993 (1) - pls, improve this blanket http://puu.sh/h52yN/15459ab17f.jpg
4. 02:17:793 (3,4) - mmm... some like this will works better for the "blablabla":
   
5. 02:26:913 (5,1) - this spacing looks "misleading", pls, move (5), and fix the spacing:
   
6. 02:48:993 (3,4) -
   
8. You know where are the polarity issues, pls, think about this :3

1. 00:43:713 (5,1) - no blanket? T___T
2. 00:47:073 (4) - feels better:
   
3. 01:16:833 (4) - pls, add a 1/1 slider in 01:16:353 - , and add a repeat to long slider (and move a bit the spinner). Like this is now... is bored >_>
   
4. 01:43:473 (3) - this feel bad D:, but idk what suggestion do ;w;
5. 02:04:833 (7) - man, what is it... pls... i know you will make it better >;3
6. 02:18:753 (4,5) - pls, dont lost the big tick here :/
   
7. 02:35:553 (3) - why the curve?? this is following nothing in music
8. 02:48:993 (4) - plsssss!! >_< is many time! this is better:
   
9. 03:09:153 (7) -
   
   better shape

   
10. 03:21:393 - add a note here pls... and improve the flow in this pattern
11. 03:44:673 (6) -
    
12. 03:54:993 - add a note here? pls >_<
13. 04:01:953 (2,3) - pls... is boreeeed xD
    
14. 04:06:033 - you are losting the melody ;_; pls, try it:
    
15. 04:12:513 (3) - notice the additional node, and the snap here is the ball in this moment:
    
    
16. 04:28:833 (6) - this feels without soul (?), move the last node:
    

1. 01:27:273 (4) - here feels wrong. Yeah, you are following the melody, but the bass in 01:27:393 - is very strong. Pls, fix it!
2. 03:44:913 (5) - http://puu.sh/h58B0/5e407510ac.jpg pls~ ._.

1. Spread between normal and hard will be problematic, imo. Normal wil have more note density.
2. Easy dont looks bad, but... Could be better u.u
3. I notice you are not clever with low diffs xD, but dont worry

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:

omg, this was bubble... i will continue my mod, no kudo pls. sorry it was accident i kd ur mod

[easy]

1. I did not like a bit that rhythm you did in kiai 01:34:113 - and 02:50:913 - , bc the "durududin-durududin" is a melody more intuitive. but well...
   Many of my suggestion are for avoid the polarity issues. mapping easy diff in 250bpm song is like... well..
2. 01:41:313 (5) - i really think is bad idea this note for a easy... pls, consider delete, or maybe make some like this:
   
3. 02:00:993 (1) - pls, improve this blanket http://puu.sh/h52yN/15459ab17f.jpg
4. 02:17:793 (3,4) - mmm... some like this will works better for the "blablabla":
   
5. 02:26:913 (5,1) - this spacing looks "misleading", pls, move (5), and fix the spacing:
   
6. 02:48:993 (3,4) -
   
8. You know where are the polarity issues, pls, think about this :3

[Normal]

1. 00:43:713 (5,1) - no blanket? T___T yes
2. 00:47:073 (4) - feels better: no change for this
   
3. 01:16:833 (4) - pls, add a 1/1 slider in 01:16:353 - , and add a repeat to long slider (and move a bit the spinner). Like this is now... is bored >_> idk with this
   
4. 01:43:473 (3) - this feel bad D:, but idk what suggestion do ;w; that slider can cover stream sound
5. 02:04:833 (7) - man, what is it... pls... i know you will make it better >;3
6. 02:18:753 (4,5) - pls, dont lost the big tick here :/
   
7. 02:35:553 (3) - why the curve?? this is following nothing in music i hear something there
8. 02:48:993 (4) - plsssss!! >_< is many time! this is better:
   
9. 03:09:153 (7) -
   
   better shape

   
10. 03:21:393 - add a note here pls... and improve the flow in this pattern
11. 03:44:673 (6) -
    
12. 03:54:993 - add a note here? pls >_<
13. 04:01:953 (2,3) - pls... is boreeeed xD
    
14. 04:06:033 - you are losting the melody ;_; pls, try it:
    
15. 04:12:513 (3) - notice the additional node, and the snap here is the ball in this moment:
    
    
16. 04:28:833 (6) - this feels without soul (?), move the last node:
    

[hard]

1. 01:27:273 (4) - here feels wrong. Yeah, you are following the melody, but the bass in 01:27:393 - is very strong. Pls, fix it! whats wrong with this?
2. 03:44:913 (5) - http://puu.sh/h58B0/5e407510ac.jpg pls~ ._. want to keep this straight slider

Summary

1. Spread between normal and hard will be problematic, imo. Normal wil have more note density.
2. Easy dont looks bad, but... Could be better u.u
3. I notice you are not clever with low diffs xD, but dont worry so sad yeah

Fort wrote:

[hard]

1. 01:27:273 (4) - here feels wrong. Yeah, you are following the melody, but the bass in 01:27:393 - is very strong. Pls, fix it! whats wrong with this?

HootOwlStar wrote:

Err hi random mod comes along let's start anyway
Call me shit.

Easy

• I forgot the distance spacing you provide me because my osu!suddenly crashes due to computer probs
  I assume it is 1.0x because if it is 0.9x then it is too horrible
  If no description then it means distance

1. 00:22:113 (3,1) -
2. 00:35:553 (4,1) -
3. 00:37:473 (2) - **Not on grid, these notes 00:38:913 (4,5) also not on grid
4. 00:39:393 (5,1) -
5. 01:13:953 (5,1) -
6. 01:29:313 (4,1) -
7. 01:32:193 (3) - Nt on grid
8. 01:32:193 (3,1) -
9. 01:36:033 (3,4) -
10. 01:39:873 (3,4) -
11. 01:40:353 (4,1) -
12. 02:26:913 (4,1) -
13. 02:33:633 (1) - Just suggest you move it to lower as it seems crashing w/ 02:31:713 (2)
14. 02:51:873 (2,3) -
15. 02:53:793 (3,1) -
16. 03:10:113 (1,2) -
17. 04:20:193 (3,1) -

Normal

• I assume it is 1.2x
  Same, if no description then it means distance
  "^" is also a description don't mistaken

1. 00:24:033 (2,3,4) - Make it to equilateral better
2. 00:45:153 (2,3,4) - Move to right of 00:44:193 (1) for better flow
3. 01:16:353 - Should add a note here i think i will keep this one, this thing will make this map interesting
4. 01:35:073 (3,4) -
5. 01:38:673 (2,3) - Not on grid
6. 01:52:113 (5) - ^
7. 02:19:233 (5) - ^
8. 02:27:633 (7,1) -
9. 02:51:873 (2) - Nt on grid
10. 02:55:233 (2) - ^
11. 03:00:273 (5,6,7) - ^
12. 03:05:793 (8) - ^
13. 03:09:153 (6) - ^
14. 03:45:633 (1) - ^
15. 04:06:273 (3,4) - ^
16. 04:08:673 (1) - A little bit too out of grid

Good luck in ranking this

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:

Fort wrote:

[hard]

1. 01:27:273 (4) - here feels wrong. Yeah, you are following the melody, but the bass in 01:27:393 - is very strong. Pls, fix it! whats wrong with this?

My suggestion is for make this more intuitive. Because the bass in 01:27:393 - is very strong but is on half slider way, the brain is like "oh, what happen here, i listen something, but i does not press it...", and, player will be confuced for this. this is nice idea, i will consider this one because i think its okay if i follow smelody in here, and the hitsounds looks nice too

Sky Trias wrote:

hmmm....
Rank This!

more crazy map plz!

Timorisu wrote:

This is horrible in every aspect I could imagine

Aka wrote:

terror diff is messy as hell duh

Timorisu wrote:

00:16:113 (2) - Unstack for better movement

00:16:833 (4) - Soft sampleset

00:20:673 (5) - Soft sampleset

00:22:833 (6) - CTRL+G for better spacing and lead-in to 00:23:073 (1) -

00:23:793 (2) - Unstack for better movement

00:24:513 (4) - Soft sampleset

00:28:353 (4) - Soft sampleset

00:28:713 (5,1,2) - Since these follow the lyrics there's -

00:29:433 - A missing circle here

00:32:223 (1) - Why the hell is this such a strong sound. A quiet soft sampleset (with removed whistles) would sound way better, since there's no actual 1/8
sound

00:32:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This would work WAY better as 2 sliders followed by 4 circles, just CTRL+G 00:32:913 (2,3,4) - to see how much better this sounds and would play

00:33:633 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - These center points, 00:33:633 (1,3,5,7) - , are way too clustered. Additionally this pattern has horrible flow.

00:33:693 - Also missed a beat here

00:34:593 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Again, this would work WAY better as 2 sliders followed by 4 circles

00:35:613 - Also missed one more beat here

00:35:553 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - These center points, 00:35:553 (1,3,5,7) - , are way too clustered. Additionally this pattern has horrible flow.

00:36:513 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You know it, 2 sliders followed by 4 circles

00:37:473 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These center points, 00:37:473 (1,3,5) - , are way too clustered. Stacking 00:38:073 (6,7) - under 00:37:833 (4,5) - is completely redundant looking at the other patterns like this, since they're all based on "circular "flow"". Mapping a sharp repeat like this after the previous patterns is off-putting.

00:37:533 - Again, a missed beat

00:38:433 (1,2,3,4) - You know what I'm going to say

00:40:113 (5) - CTRL+Shift+F? You missed a rather promiment sound at 00:40:173 -

00:40:353 (1,2,3) - This back and forth thing doesn't play well at all, move 00:40:353 (1) - to the right to create a more circular motion

00:40:353 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Unlike the first part I'd make this 4 circles followed by 2 sliders, for consistency's sake

00:41:553 (2,3,4,5,6) - This doesn't play well at all, especially the sharp back and forth thing again. Try a star pattern of some sort http://i.imgur.com/ZqtGUUO.png

00:42:753 (5,6,7) - Again, for consistency's sake I'd place 4 circles followed by 2 sliders here

00:42:993 (6,7,2) - This is a complete bitch to read, since 00:43:473 (2) - is still hidden under the expanding 00:42:993 (6,7) - at the time of having to be hit

00:43:593 (3,4,5,6) - Again, these close back and forth things make no sense, a more spaced out square or something would work better

00:44:193 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The 4 circles followed by 2 sliders thing again

00:44:193 (1,2,3,4) - The overlap on 00:44:193 (1,3) - is bugging me, you could use a zigzag square to clean this up a little http://i.imgur.com/xerZv09.png

00:45:393 (2,3,4) - Again, these close back and forth things make no sense and are horrible to play

00:46:293 - Missed out on a beat here

00:47:493 (8) - There's no sound here - remove this

00:48:033 (1) - Id' rather have this spinner end on 00:51:393 - with two circles after it placed at 00:51:633 - and 00:51:873 -

The best thing about this map is that it'd play just fine with AR9 if your patterns weren't so clustered and ugly (and no, that is NOT a valid excuse to use AR10)

Please don't reply with things like "but this is my mapping style, deal with it 8)" but instead reason your mapping. Afterall, you're thinking about the song and the best possible map you can give it by placing circles and sliders which compliment the song. Therefore all/most of your objects should have a reason to be where they are. If they do you shouldn't have a problem reasoning your mapping.





And I'm not even a minute in, how did this get qualified?
Honestly at this point it looks like a random circle dump with the wrong intentions and flawed execution, probably because that's what it is.

Bass wrote:

:^)

Genocide wrote:

Please don't make an argument before get disqualified except you want to get better for this mapset!

Timorisu wrote:

How to avoid having to answer to a lengthy post: Ignore it. But that's none of my business :^)

inverness wrote:

Unless of course, you didn't really care about the quality of your own (ranked) map.

Timorisu wrote:

Apparently only QATs are allowed to speak about qualified maps?

1. 00:40:113 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - Very poor flow, the slider 00:40:113 (5) - here transitions very poorly into 00:40:353 (1,2,3,4) - (which itself is a very poor flowing pattern). There are plenty of issues in regards to flow throughout the difficulty and mapset, whether it be through inconsistent gameplay, jerky movements, or lack of momentum. Please re-examine your patterns to make sure everything flows well.
2. 01:14:913 (1) - to 01:18:513 (9) - The spacing in this section is inconsistent and nonsensical. The spacing in this part is shorter than the spacing that was before it. In a section that has stronger beats, higher spacing to accent the change in rhythm should be used. This inconsistency causes for some unnatural and jerky gameplay.
3. 01:37:953 (1) - From this point onwards, patterns start to become more and more difficult to read and play, due to the clunky and clustered nature of the gameplay employed.
4. 01:41:793 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - The inconsistent spacing is rather confusing and lacks a basis in the music. The spacing is large but decreased as the pattern goes on even though the rhythm is basically the same. It is rather unintuitive and counteracts the increased level of gameplay you wish to present
5. 02:20:193 (1) - to 02:26:913 (1) - There are plenty of overlapping patterns and jerky back and forth movements throughout this section. This can make things not only difficult to read, but also uncomfortable to play.

Frey wrote:

The higher bpm the song has, the more difficulties you will need

That's why nobody wants to make a high-bpm map now.
Alright, spread wins

nouk wrote:

None of the QAT can play this nomod :~| they're kinda bad at the game

and rip my 483x on Terror

Lust wrote:

Greetings Fort, on behalf of the QAT I must disqualify this beatmap over the following:

1. Various quality issues present in the Another, Extra, and Terror difficulties (more particularly the Terror diff) oh okay sure
2. Questionable spread between Hard, Insane, and Another. i need more detail information about this not just some issues, please
3. Combo 1 and Combo 2 are very similar, almost to the point where one might not be able to differentiate between the two. Find a different color for either of them. im very disagree with this since im using colorhax in beginning, it just didnt really problem (im use light Gray + Dark gray) so its easy to recognize but, i will re setting colorhax in this mapset
4. The extended breaks found throughout the difficulties are nonsensical. Stuff like 00:51:873 - should be shortened to at least after the spinner, as there is no rhythmic cue to indicate such a need for the break to be put off. i dont know about this, im just want to use effective slider leght in here so this spinner didnt take spin time too long

The mapset needs more work. From our internal discussion, we have agreed that the top three difficulties need further quality revision to be even considered for the rank status. Some of our issues included the following (specifically the Terror difficulty, however these can be applied to the rest of the mapset as well):

1. 00:40:113 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - Very poor flow, the slider 00:40:113 (5) - here transitions very poorly into 00:40:353 (1,2,3,4) - (which itself is a very poor flowing pattern). There are plenty of issues in regards to flow throughout the difficulty and mapset, whether it be through inconsistent gameplay, jerky movements, or lack of momentum. Please re-examine your patterns to make sure everything flows well. this back sliders? oh okay
2. 01:14:913 (1) - to 01:18:513 (9) - The spacing in this section is inconsistent and nonsensical. The spacing in this part is shorter than the spacing that was before it. In a section that has stronger beats, higher spacing to accent the change in rhythm should be used. This inconsistency causes for some unnatural and jerky gameplay. atleast i make this pattern keep didnt rigid for mouse players. since when im use distance snap on this slow slider? lmao
3. 01:37:953 (1) - From this point onwards, patterns start to become more and more difficult to read and play, due to the clunky and clustered nature of the gameplay employed. agree with this i think because some overlaps + high jump can make some players hard to read this notes
4. 01:41:793 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - The inconsistent spacing is rather confusing and lacks a basis in the music. The spacing is large but decreased as the pattern goes on even though the rhythm is basically the same. It is rather unintuitive and counteracts the increased level of gameplay you wish to present will considering this speed up of pattern, im sure distance too consistant can make this map even harder or maybe easier
5. 02:20:193 (1) - to 02:26:913 (1) - There are plenty of overlapping patterns and jerky back and forth movements throughout this section. This can make things not only difficult to read, but also uncomfortable to play.

Please note, not every instance of poor patterning, beat placement, rhythm choice, flow, and gameplay has been mentioned. This is just an overall run through of issues that are present, and are consistently found throughout the difficulty + the others as well. You can take what we have mentioned here and apply it to the rest of the set. Please note that we are looking for heavy quality revision here for it to be considered for rank. okay sure

Alongside our list of general concerns, the spread seems to have some issues as well. Please have a closer examination on the spread between the Hard, Insane, and Another difficulties, and make sure that no gap is present between them. ok

The colors of the first two combos are way too similar. This can cause confusion, as it is difficult to tell them apart. One of them must be changed in order to accommodate the player. description above

The extended breaks after the spinners that I have mentioned are nonsensical (the spinner in and of itself is very questionable). Please do not move the start of these breaks to where you have them. We recommend that you shorten the start to right after the spinner. This applies to all of the difficulties.

In conclusion, we are not pleased with the quality of the mapset and demand that this goes under further revision. Please take our concerns seriously in order to benefit the set in an effort to acquire ranked status. Keep in mind what various people have pointed out in this thread beforehand, as much of it can be applied for consistency. The BNG will handle this mapset's requalification. Good luck! ok im on it

Timorisu wrote:

00:16:113 (2) - Unstack for better movement why? this pattern very perfect for some breaks + warming up

00:16:833 (4) - Soft sampleset why soft sampleset? im sure its better with normal sampleset instead of soft sampleset

00:20:673 (5) - Soft sampleset ^

00:22:833 (6) - CTRL+G for better spacing and lead-in to 00:23:073 (1) - not sure about this feels so forced i guess

00:23:793 (2) - Unstack for better movement ^ again this is completely didnt make sense, im just want to keep 2 and 3 flow clearly visible since that pattern has high spacing

00:24:513 (4) - Soft sampleset ^

00:28:353 (4) - Soft sampleset ^

00:28:713 (5,1,2) - Since these follow the lyrics there's - i didnt follow lyrics you just hear my previous pattern right?

00:29:433 - A missing circle here ^reason above

00:32:223 (1) - Why the hell is this such a strong sound. A quiet soft sampleset (with removed whistles) would sound way better, since there's no actual 1/8
sound but atleast i decrease volume

00:32:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This would work WAY better as 2 sliders followed by 4 circles, just CTRL+G 00:32:913 (2,3,4) - to see how much better this sounds and would play will considering patterning for this

00:33:633 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - These center points, 00:33:633 (1,3,5,7) - , are way too clustered. Additionally this pattern has horrible flow. i testplaying this so many times and didnt find why this pattern is horrible enough as you say (maybe you just testplay this with HT mods)

00:33:693 - Also missed a beat here so if im add some notes in that you can deal with it? its very quit hard you map different patterning for this hell song

00:34:593 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Again, this would work WAY better as 2 sliders followed by 4 circles ^

00:35:613 - Also missed one more beat here ^

00:35:553 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - These center points, 00:35:553 (1,3,5,7) - , are way too clustered. Additionally this pattern has horrible flow. ^

00:36:513 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You know it, 2 sliders followed by 4 circles ^

00:37:473 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These center points, 00:37:473 (1,3,5) - , are way too clustered. Stacking 00:38:073 (6,7) - under 00:37:833 (4,5) - is completely redundant looking at the other patterns like this, since they're all based on "circular "flow"". Mapping a sharp repeat like this after the previous patterns is off-putting. will restructure this pattern

00:37:533 - Again, a missed beat ^

00:38:433 (1,2,3,4) - You know what I'm going to say please yes, i will make maps for you not for fun again :^)

00:40:113 (5) - CTRL+Shift+F? You missed a rather promiment sound at 00:40:173 - totally disagree with this because that pattern is okay wihtout streamsand since the distance on next pattern is quiet hard im just didnt want to do this

00:40:353 (1,2,3) - This back and forth thing doesn't play well at all, move 00:40:353 (1) - to the right to create a more circular motion im on it

00:40:353 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Unlike the first part I'd make this 4 circles followed by 2 sliders, for consistency's sake sometimes, hard pattern on this map can be easy if you can deal with it and have retries and retries, not just talking like this

00:41:553 (2,3,4,5,6) - This doesn't play well at all, especially the sharp back and forth thing again. Try a star pattern of some sort http://i.imgur.com/ZqtGUUO.png so for what im use spacing?

00:42:753 (5,6,7) - Again, for consistency's sake I'd place 4 circles followed by 2 sliders here i put this as subjective mods ever i see, want a reason? yeah so you push me to map more like you and what about freedom mapping? yeah its not free map with your style k lol bye bye sayonara nazi

00:42:993 (6,7,2) - This is a complete bitch to read, since 00:43:473 (2) - is still hidden under the expanding 00:42:993 (6,7) - at the time of having to be hit okay then

00:43:593 (3,4,5,6) - Again, these close back and forth things make no sense, a more spaced out square or something would work better sure

00:44:193 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The 4 circles followed by 2 sliders thing again

00:44:193 (1,2,3,4) - The overlap on 00:44:193 (1,3) - is bugging me, you could use a zigzag square to clean this up a little http://i.imgur.com/xerZv09.png

00:45:393 (2,3,4) - Again, these close back and forth things make no sense and are horrible to play

00:46:293 - Missed out on a beat here

00:47:493 (8) - There's no sound here - remove this

00:48:033 (1) - Id' rather have this spinner end on 00:51:393 - with two circles after it placed at 00:51:633 - and 00:51:873 -

The best thing about this map is that it'd play just fine with AR9 if your patterns weren't so clustered and ugly (and no, that is NOT a valid excuse to use AR10)

Please don't reply with things like "but this is my mapping style, deal with it 8)" but instead reason your mapping. Afterall, you're thinking about the song and the best possible map you can give it by placing circles and sliders which compliment the song. Therefore all/most of your objects should have a reason to be where they are. If they do you shouldn't have a problem reasoning your mapping.


And I'm not even a minute in, how did this get qualified?
Honestly at this point it looks like a random circle dump with the wrong intentions and flawed execution, probably because that's what it is.





Edit because why not

01:05:793 (3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern does not play well at all, you're forcing sharp and quick angles on the player on a calm part. Especially the direction change 01:05:913 (4,5,6,7) - has is horrible

01:05:793 (3,5) - This stack is concerning. Again, the second circle is still covered by the first circle's expanding effect after being hit, even with transparent 300s

01:06:273 (7,8,9,10) - This spacing doesn't make any sense. Work on an even arc at least

01:09:033 (11) - Move this upwards to avoid those stacks I've mentioned like 20 times already. You should know why they're problematic by now. This also brings more of a circular motion into the pattern and eases the movement, making the created pattern (01:08:793 (9,10,11,1) - ) more comfortable to play

01:09:993 (6) - Place this somewhere around 240|112 to ease reading. This still keeps a similiar movement from 01:09:993 (6) - to 01:10:113 (7) - like 01:09:753 (4) - to 01:09:873 (5) - has

01:10:593 (9,10,11,12,1) - While I agree that there should be a more spaced part here it shouldn't be nearly as jump as this, concidering the general tone of the part this is set in. This could easily be fixed by moving 01:10:953 (12) - upwards a little

01:12:153 (7,8,9) - The change from small spacing to rather big spacing is kind of off-putting, especially with the slider on a red tick. Consider moving 01:12:153 (7) - outwards a little

01:14:433 (9) - Move this to where 01:12:993 (1) - was, then CTRL+G for a pattern that doesn't cause the player to do these awkward back-and-forth-stopping motions on the sliders

01:18:753 (1) - This spinner doesn't make any sense at all. Doesn't add to the map or the song and feels plain wrong.

01:20:673 - And what is this break doing here? You're basically covering up the interesting speeding up part with these

01:24:393 (15) - There's no sound here - remove this

01:25:653 (9) - There's no sound here - remove this. Then adjust either 01:25:593 (8) - or 01:25:713 (9) - to remove the 1/2 stack

01:28:033 - and 01:28:073 - You missed out on two important 1/6 beats here

01:28:353 (1,5) - You know why I dislike these stacks by now. Hidden objects and bad playability.

01:28:473 (2,3,4,6) - Yeah

01:31:113 (6) - Remove the repeat and add a circle at 01:31:353 - to keep consistency with the previous patterns

01:32:073 (12) - There's no sound here - remove this

01:34:113 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - There's no reason for variable spacing, especially accelerating one. This is mindless 1/2 spam from the music with no change in tone or pitch whatsoever, so it should be mapped accordingly, not like something that gets more intense by the second

01:34:953 (8,2) - Stacks and stuff

01:35:433 (4,6) - The darn problematic stacks

01:35:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern especially is shit to play. 01:35:073 (1,2) - Is forcing the player to speed up and move horizontally, 01:35:193 (2,3) - promptly speeds down again and is placed to play in an awkward going-up-but-not-really place. 01:35:313 (3,4,5) - This completely random spacing isn't only bad to look at but bad to play also, plus 01:35:433 (4,5,6) - being basically a repeat could really screw the player over.

01:35:553 (5,6,7) - This change of spacing is random and illogical

01:36:273 (2) - CTRL+G

01:36:513 (3,4) - CTRL+G

01:36:513 (3,5) - CTRl+G

In that order, so a circular motion will be created. The dropdown from 01:36:753 (5) - to 01:36:873 (6) - will also make the transition into the slider better

01:36:813 - Missed out on part of the stream here

01:38:193 (3,5) - I'd write a comment for each stack I find but then this post would be 300% longer

01:38:313 (4,5,6,7) - Again, this spacing change is sudden and irrational, the sharp angle from 01:38:313 (4) - to 01:38:433 (5) - is a bitch to read and play, which sucks because 01:38:433 (5,6,7) - is kinda nice

01:38:553 (6,7,8,1) - But then again, this spacing is really weird

01:38:313 (4,8) - Oh look, another stack that hides the second circle

01:39:393 (5,6,7) - These spacing changes are... you know. This could easily be solved by moving 01:39:513 (6) - somewhere around 268|352

01:40:113 (2) - CTRL+G

01:40:353 (3,4,5,6) - Switch these placements

01:40:653 - Missed a part of the stream here

01:42:633 (8,3) - The first circle hides half of the second circle. Clean yo stacks

01:42:273 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - The reducing spacing is weird since you previously based this kiai on accelerating spacing, rather then reducing it

01:43:113 (4,5,6,7) - You even have accelerating spacing right in this pattern, starting at a completely random point

01:45:633 (1,2,3,4) - From 1.2 to 3.3 to 1.4? Nonononono

01:45:753 (2,3) - Plus this is a complete bitch to play especially with follow points since you're forcing the player to go through the end of 01:45:393 (4) - and 01:45:633 (1) - again

01:45:873 (3,7) - First circle hides more than half of the second circle on this stack

01:46:113 (5,8) - The first circle nearly hides the complete second circle

01:47:193 (6) - Uneven spacing. Move this further to the top left

01:48:333 - Missed out on part of the stream again

01:49:653 - Missed a triple here

01:49:833 (4,5,6) - This is not nice to play at all, especially with 01:49:953 (5) - being a slider, making the player drag away from 01:50:193 (6) - even more

01:51:073 - and 01:51:113 - You missed out on two important 1/6 beats here

01:51:573 (3) - Missed a triple here

01:51:633 (3,4,5) - Random, uneven spacing

01:53:493 - Missed a triple here

01:54:033 (6) - Move 1 grid up

01:54:633 (11,12) - CTRL+G and move 01:54:633 (11) - out a little. Pay attention to even spacing

01:54:913 - and 01:54:953 - You missed out on two important 1/6 beats here

01:55:413 - Missed a triple here

01:55:713 (5,1) - This overlap is unnecessary and easily avoidable

01:56:793 (4,5,6,7,1,2) - Very uneven spacing

01:57:333 - Missed a triple here

01:57:633 (5,6,7) - Even though this isn't the worst spacing this map has to show, it certainly isn't the best either. Try moving and rotating 01:57:993 (7) - around to create an even spacing from 01:57:873 (6) - to 01:57:993 (7) - to 01:58:233 (8) -

01:58:293 - Missed a triple here

01:58:753 - and 01:58:793 - You missed out on two important 1/6 beats here

01:59:253 - Missed a triple here

01:59:193 (2,3,4,5) - This is the most uneven spacing I have seen

02:00:273 (2,3) - These being so close together doesn't make much sense, looking at 02:00:033 (1,2) - and 02:00:513 (3,4) - , both of which transitions are highly spaced

02:00:753 (4,1) - Same thing here, these being so close together after the really jumpy and highly spaced part doesn't make much sense

02:01:173 - Missed a triple here

02:01:113 (2,3,4,5) - Honestly what the fuck is this spacing? From 1.1 to 2.5 to 3.1?

02:01:953 (8,12) - The first circle covers most of the second circle

02:02:593 - and 02:02:633 - You missed out on two important 1/6 beats here

02:03:093 - Missed a triple here

02:03:993 (2,4) - Ugh

02:03:993 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - The sudden change from high to low spacing is kind of weird but whatevs

After looking at 50% of this... thing I've come to the conclusion that you should work on easier maps at first. Learn to be way more consistent with both, timeline and grid placement. Your current map looks like you played the song at 100% speed and placed the circles where you thought they belong, which is not what you should do on 250/500 BPM maps. After working on making easier, more consistent maps, try getting those ranked to get a grasp of what a good mod is and how to properly reply to a mod. When you've got the basics nailed down (which you should have done by now) try to slowly transition into making harder maps. Trying to map stuff like this out of the blue, overnight, will end up as the mess that you currently offer as a map.

My two cents. I'm not going to look at the rest of the map since I can't imagine anything good coming out of this. dun play this map pls

Sorry if I sound a little harsh.

testplay my map without NF or HT pls thanks

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Time has come, please, anyone can clean up this thread.... ?

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Time has come, please, anyone can clean up this thread.... ?

no kds please .. this not help anything

• 1. You can add tag : HARDCORE TANO*C
  2. Some trouble on spinning i think : Hyper , Insane , Another , Extra , Terror
     04:13:473 (1) - This spinner is 720 ms long, which is shorter than 750 ms; check that it gets at least 1000 on auto.
  3. come on Fort .. please don't add another Terror difficult ;_;
  4. all fine
  
  [Easy]
  • 1. 00:23:073 (1) - make same as 00:24:033 (2)
    [*]01:14:913 (1) - missing finish (head)
    [*]01:15:873 (2) - change finish (head)
    
    [Normal]
    • 1. 02:49:113 - 02:50:673 - add spinner ? make same Hard and other ?
      [Hard]
      • 1. 00:45:993 (6) - move to x : 368 y : 368 ( you can make same flow like 00:40:353 (1,2,3) - )
        2. 01:41:073 (5) - unsight not when i testplay with HD
        3. 02:29:313 (5) - longer till 02:29:673 - sound's better
        4. 03:46:953 (4) - move to x: 400 y: 172
        5. 04:00:033 (4) - move to x: 432 y: 152 (blanked with 04:00:273 (5) - )
        6. 04:18:153 (7) - move to x: 444 y: 212
        [Hyper]
        • 1. 00:46:113 (1) - weird .. better than before
          2. 02:45:993 (4) - stack with 02:46:113 (1) - ??
          3. 03:00:033 (8,9,1) - weird flow .. better than before : ( move 03:00:393 (9) - x:96 y:172 then 03:00:513 (1) - x:84 y:228 )
          [Insane]
          • 1. 04:15:393 (1,2,3,4) - very weird flow over here. maybe move 04:15:513 (2) - to x: 352 y: 92
            [Another]
            • 1. 01:32:073 (8) - remove
              2. 01:16:593 (4) - Ctrl+G will be better
              3. 04:18:753 (3,4,5,6) - very weird flow over here. idk how to make this better, please check this.
              4. i feel weird if you use double hitsound like whistle and clap on single not / slider (head/tail). very diffrent with other mapset.
              [Extra]
              • 1. 01:32:073 (10) - remove
                [Terror]
                • 1. is this good? I can't even follow the flow ..
                  2. 01:32:073 (12) - remove

Lust wrote:

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Time has come, please, anyone can clean up this thread.... ?

Locking this thread while I clean up some less than desirable posts. I am asking you all politely to stop with the fighting. Any post that is not constructive/beneficial will be removed.

Thank you.

EDIT: Thread unlocked, lets keep things clean fellas.

Sky Trias wrote:

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Time has come, please, anyone can clean up this thread.... ?

Since this beatmap has been DQ ..
I will mod this now.
Hope this helping a bit
no kds please .. this not help anything

[General]

• 1. You can add tag : HARDCORE TANO*C
  2. Some trouble on spinning i think : Hyper , Insane , Another , Extra , Terror
     04:13:473 (1) - This spinner is 720 ms long, which is shorter than 750 ms; check that it gets at least 1000 on auto.
  3. come on Fort .. please don't add another Terror difficult ;_;
  4. all fine
  
  [Easy]
  • 1. 00:23:073 (1) - make same as 00:24:033 (2)
    [*]01:14:913 (1) - missing finish (head)
    [*]01:15:873 (2) - change finish (head)
    
    [Normal]
    • 1. 02:49:113 - 02:50:673 - add spinner ? make same Hard and other ?
      [Hard]
      • 1. 00:45:993 (6) - move to x : 368 y : 368 ( you can make same flow like 00:40:353 (1,2,3) - )
        2. 01:41:073 (5) - unsight not when i testplay with HD
        3. 02:29:313 (5) - longer till 02:29:673 - sound's better nope i follow something there
        4. 03:46:953 (4) - move to x: 400 y: 172 will keep this i guess
        5. 04:00:033 (4) - move to x: 432 y: 152 (blanked with 04:00:273 (5) - )
        6. 04:18:153 (7) - move to x: 444 y: 212
        [Hyper]
        • 1. 00:46:113 (1) - weird .. better than before make something didnt weird there
          2. 02:45:993 (4) - stack with 02:46:113 (1) - ?? lol looks too weird
          3. 03:00:033 (8,9,1) - weird flow .. better than before : ( move 03:00:393 (9) - x:96 y:172 then 03:00:513 (1) - x:84 y:228 )
          [Insane]
          • 1. 04:15:393 (1,2,3,4) - very weird flow over here. maybe move 04:15:513 (2) - to x: 352 y: 92
            [Another]
            • 1. 01:32:073 (8) - remove
              2. 01:16:593 (4) - Ctrl+G will be better
              3. 04:18:753 (3,4,5,6) - very weird flow over here. idk how to make this better, please check this.
              4. i feel weird if you use double hitsound like whistle and clap on single not / slider (head/tail). very diffrent with other mapset.
              [Extra]
              • 1. 01:32:073 (10) - remove
                [Terror]
                • 1. is this good? I can't even follow the flow ..
                  2. 01:32:073 (12) - remove

Default wrote:

Out of curiosity, what does Terror Relinquished mean? I don't understand it, and I can't find a decent translation.

lit120 wrote:

Default wrote:

Out of curiosity, what does Terror Relinquished mean? I don't understand it, and I can't find a decent translation.

something REALLY hard than Terror diff

Default wrote:

I am talking about the actual meaning of the words.

wuzzat wrote:

FORT=Da Next Blue Dragon (?)

Anxient wrote:

Terror relinquished = welp were doomed. thanks a lot fort.

Constantine wrote:

ui fort, reply ke modnya timo skrg biar ga sia2 dia kerja (iirc lu ga reply ke dia soalnya pas itu masi di state qualified)

>nambah diff susah 1 lagi

;w;

wuzzat wrote:

FORT=Da Next Blue Dragon (?)

Lach wrote:

wuzzat wrote:

FORT=Da Next Blue Dragon (?)

Is that something to be proud of?

[ Space ] wrote:

Fort, you're going mad.

Athrun wrote:

Fort pls

raianshimuzu wrote:

sekarang ini juga masalah spread selain AiAe ;w;

good luck buat requalifiednya Fort o/

Frim4503 wrote:

shoot aja dah biar berkah
kaya map yg satunya

aku shoot beberapa hari kemudian ranked

HolyNightmare wrote:

That terror relinquished...

FORT PLS <333

you made me love this map even more, even its pain in the ass, but so fun :3
pls get ranked
gogogogogogogogogog

baraatje123 wrote:

It now has an even harder diff?
What's wrong with you?
How can one even map such difficulty (and rank it as well)
Teach me plz

baraatje123 wrote:

It now has an even harder diff?
What's wrong with you?
How can one even map such difficulty (and rank it as well)
Teach me plz

Oracle wrote:

lol you
10 diff spread wwwwww

1. Use 0,9x Spacing at Easy Diffiiculty please?

1. 00:16:833 - add a note please? with drum whistle?
2. 00:18:753 - ^
3. 00:20:673 - add a note with sampleset > drum and use whistle
4. 00:22:593 - ^
5. 00:36:033 - ^
6. 00:37:953 (3) - how about 1/1 slider that ends in big white tick? 00:38:433 -
7. 00:39:873 (6) - add 1/1 slider that ends here 00:40:113 -
8. 00:41:313 (2) - how about 1/1 slider that ends right here 00:41:793 - then add a reverse?
9. 00:42:753 - to 00:46:593 - sounds quite ._. you may want to add some notes/sliders
10. 01:04:353 (2) - i think soft-hitclap isn't fit here, please change into Normal Hitclap
11. 01:06:273 (5) - ^ please make this into a simple normal hit, and remove clap on it
12. 01:06:753 (6) - add a note with drum-hitwhistle please?
13. 01:14:433 - add a note or 1/1 slider here please?
14. 01:32:193 (3) - make this curve please? can you make the slider shape something like this? Example for a better flow btw
15. 01:36:513 - add a note?
16. 02:04:833 (4) - change into this kind of slider shape? example
17. 02:23:553 - add a note with sampleset > drum-hitwhistle
18. 02:27:393 - ^
19. 02:31:233 - ^
20. 02:47:553 - add a note?
21. 02:48:513 - ^
22. 02:48:993 (3) - change into this kind of shape please? Example just for a better flow btw
23. 02:57:153 (4) - ^ Example
24. 03:00:993 - add a note with drum-hitwhistle please?
25. 03:36:033 (3) - i think this slider is off screen/out of grid/overlapping the score meter maybe you want to move the slider tail into another place

[ -Neon- ] wrote:

wy did the AR get lowered for some diff? terror really needs ar10, it feels slow even at 10 :S

wendao wrote:

welcome back