ice ft. NicoNico Chorus - Theme of Puella Magi [OsuMania] · forum

Kamikaze

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-10-15T14:20:37+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 9 lutego 2015 at 16:23:07

Artist: ice ft. NicoNico Chorus
Title: Theme of Puella Magi
Source: 魔法少女まどか☆マギカ
Tags: Soundtrack BGM Kajiura Yuki Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica Tidek
BPM: 148
Filesize: 23300kb
Play Time: 04:46
Difficulties Available:

6K Lv. 6 - 6Key (1,79 stars, 1214 notes)
8K Lv. 10 New World - 8Key (2,54 stars, 1724 notes)
8K Lv. 6 - 8Key (1,81 stars, 1234 notes)
Tidek's 6K Lv. 10 Grief Seed - 6Key (2,35 stars, 1537 notes)

Download: ice ft. NicoNico Chorus - Theme of Puella Magi
Download: ice ft. NicoNico Chorus - Theme of Puella Magi (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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MP3, most of timing and video taken with Andrea's permission from his std mapset
Status:

by DE-CADE

by Kuo Kyoka
Redownload if you have this before 31/01, changed diffnames of lower levels

About this map (Read before modding)

This map is my biggest masterpiece yet. I'm really freakin proud of it lol, also it's my 5th map, second for rank (not counting Nano Death since it's not even ready). This is 7+1K map, meaning that 1st column is for "scratch" aka special key, to which I mapped only chimes. The goal of this map is (ofc) to attract more players into 8K. I'm not using pitch relevancy, because I'd rather make fun patterns than follow PR strictly. I follow it anyway in some places, but I'd say it's maximum of 25% of total PR. Focused more on finger ballance. Also I love my LN's in New World. Placing LN's can be a work of art sometimes~ This is a bit hitsounded with samples, because when I tried full sample sounding it turned out very meh, and hitnormal already sounds good enough for me lel.
EDIT#1: I didn't follow vocals (with very few exceptions). 95% of time vocals follow instruments I'm mapping, please don't misunderstand that.
EDIT#2: 6K's follow very similar principals, excluding scratch. This is a symmetrical aka SM style 6K
List of diffs:

8K

Lv. 6 Hope - ☆06 ★ 1,84 15 mods done (5 BN)

Lv. 10 New World ☆10 ◆05 ★ 2,54 16 mods (5 BN) done

6K

Lv. 6 Sadness - ☆06 ★ 1,83 11 mods done (5 BN)

Tidek's Lv. 10 Grief Seed - ☆10 ◆06 ★ 2,34 9 mods done (5 BN) - by

Tidek

Following BMS diff scales, not IIDX

Changelog

15/10 - Uploaded
17/10 - Some early map's page tweaks lmao
18/10 - Rescaled lv. 6 to lv. 5 and confirmed rankability of spread. Moving to Pending
19/10 - Fixes on Harbyter's Archer's and hutono's mods
27/10 - Timing fix by Shrik
29/10 - Lunatic Raccoon's mod
31/10 - Zenx's mod
02/11 - Further fixes following Zenx's mod also new hitnormal
08/11 - Done 6K Lv. 5 placeholder for Tidek's Lv.10 uploaded and name changes
09/11 - Hitsounding in 6K Lv. 5 done, Tidek's diff done but not hitsounded yet
11/11 - Starting fixes on richard's mod
15/11 - Mass of mods, fixes on my diffs
16/11 - Further fixes on Paul's mod
03/12 - Agka's & Yuutosan's mods
04/12 - Self fixes on timing and note placement and Tidek's diff update
05/12 - Very minor fix on 8K Lv.10
07/12 - Added hitsounds for Tidek's diff
15/12 - Xleonq's mod and Lv.5's -> Lv.6's
20/12 - Changed star in source from full to blank (Thank you based flrn!)
25/01 - Revived and DE-CADE's check on New World
31/01 - Arcwinolivirus' mod and change of diffnames (again)
06/02 - ExUsagi's hitsound mod and DE-CADE's mod on rest of diffs
07/02 - Tidek's diff updated, ready for re-check
08/02 - Recheck happening, ~~bubble plz~~ bubble happened, danks DE-CADE
09/02 - Kuo Kyoka's IRC mod, rank hype

Last edited by Kamikaze 2015-02-09T17:29:09+00:00, edited 78 times in total.

Fubukicat

970 posts

Joined February 2012

Fubukicat 2014-10-18T12:11:07+00:00

Hi There Misakaze ~

Both diff are really cool imo , so i'm not gonna mod them :V
Instead gonna wish you good luck for it ^^/ gogogo and rank this

Harbyter

Beatmap Nominator

1,368 posts

Joined October 2011

Harbyter 2014-10-18T14:04:42+00:00

hi~ here my mod

Column > -1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-

Lv.10 New World

00:00:713 (713|0) - i think you can end this LN here 00:09:227 - and move note1 in col 5
00:50:477 - missing note here

02:25:254 (145254|2) - turn it in LN? if yes end it here 02:25:862 -
02:26:673 - missing note here
02:32:754 - here too
02:34:984 (154984|6) - this too turn in LN?if yes end it here 02:35:592 -

02:37:011 (157011|4) - here i think you can turn this note in a LN too and end it here 02:37:416 - ,otherside there's a missing note 02:37:214 - and you can fill it with the LN

here 02:51:139 - i understand that you wanted to follow the vocal but in the previous pattern and the next that will come you filled those part with notes, wo you can put here a note too? maybe in col 3

02:56:070 - here too
----

and here,
03:09:196 (189196|3,189532|7) - those 2 notes aren't snapped well

put the 1/8 divisor then

03:09:196 (189196|3) - move note 4 here 03:09:252 -
03:09:532 (189532|7) - move note 8 here 03:09:476 -

03:31:975 (211975|6) - you followed the high notes of the piano in those pattern right? Delete it

03:41:705 - add note in col 7
03:44:137 - add note in col 3
04:00:962 (240962|7) - end this LN here 04:02:745 -

hope my little mod will be helpfull and nice song!liked it when testing

ArcherLove

1,434 posts

Joined March 2013

ArcherLove 2014-10-18T14:07:16+00:00

Eternalie wrote:
Hi There Misakaze ~

Both diff are really cool imo , so i'm not gonna mod them :V
Instead gonna wish you good luck for it ^^/ gogogo and rank this

so ok
jk :U

mod ~

collumn=1~8

[lv.5]

00:21:085 (21085|6,21287|7) - Ctrl + J ?
00:22:301 (22301|3) - move to 6 ?
01:02:792 (62792|5,63060|3) - Ctrl + J ?
01:18:501 (78501|6) - move to 3 ?
02:46:396 (166396|4,166623|3,166826|2,167029|1) - ctrl+J ?
03:15:532 (195532|7,195734|6,195937|5) - move to 2-6-8 ?

[lv.10]

this seems nice ... and LNs !

sorry for short mod .. because really busy xD
good luck!~

shionelove

1,521 posts

Joined September 2010

shionelove 2014-10-19T11:17:39+00:00

hi~from M4M
column S1234567

[Hope]
01:08:568 (68568|7,68771|5,68974|3,69177|1,69379|3) - conflict 01:18:095 (78095|6,78501|6,78906|6) - meow
01:20:528 (80528|5,80528|1,80933|6,80933|2,81339|3,81339|7) - ^
01:39:987 (99987|6,100190|4,100393|2) - move to 135?
01:55:686 - add 3
01:58:358 (118358|3) - conflict 01:48:495 (108495|6,109522|2) -
02:05:344 - add 1
02:24:443 (144443|1) - move to 2?
02:58:741 (178741|4,178741|5,179152|3,179152|2) - ctrl+h?
04:03:577 (243577|5) - start from 04:03:498
04:08:265 - add
04:25:731 (265731|0) - meow(https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2148872)
04:37:256 (277256|4,277256|5,277667|2,277667|3) - ^^^^
[New World]
00:27:977 (27977|3,28179|4,28382|5) - conflict 00:18:247 (18247|4,18449|5,18652|6) -
00:50:477 - add
01:29:244 - add
02:58:741 (178741|5,178741|4,179152|2,179152|3) - ctrl+h
04:25:731 (265731|0) - meow(https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2149072)
04:37:256 (277256|4,277256|5,277667|3,277667|2) - ^^

Good Luck~

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-10-19T14:34:51+00:00

Holy shit that's a lot of stuff happening in one day. Time to reply o/

Eternalie wrote:
Hi There Misakaze ~

Both diff are really cool imo , so i'm not gonna mod them :V
Instead gonna wish you good luck for it ^^/ gogogo and rank this

That's the most MLG way of saying that you're too lazy to nitpick, I respect that. #represent
also cool sig that you have there, I want something like this too :v

Harbyter wrote:
hi~ here my mod

Column > -1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-

Lv.10 New World
00:00:713 (713|0) - i think you can end this LN here 00:09:227 - and move note1 in col 5 It's a good idea, but I want to keep this sound on scratch column. Will change if someone else mentions it
00:50:477 - missing note here Damn I thought there's a pause there but there is a barerly audible sound, added at 5th

02:25:254 (145254|2) - turn it in LN? if yes end it here 02:25:862 - fixed, also changed pattern a bit so it won't be confusing to play
02:26:673 - missing note here No sound there, only prolonged vocal which I didn't map
02:32:754 - here too No sound there
02:34:984 (154984|6) - this too turn in LN?if yes end it here 02:35:592 - I'm not entierly sure of that, because flute (I think that's flute lmao) is barerly audible and I avoid mapping vocals, but I'll try that for now

02:37:011 (157011|4) - here i think you can turn this note in a LN too and end it here 02:37:416 - ,otherside there's a missing note 02:37:214 - and you can fill it with the LN No sound other than flute, and I'm not mapping here beause it'll be too confusing with next chord. Will consider that in future tho Side note: pause is intentional

here 02:51:139 - i understand that you wanted to follow the vocal but in the previous pattern and the next that will come you filled those part with notes, wo you can put here a note too? maybe in col 3 I didn't follow vocal anywhere. Vocal is following instruments that I'm mapping, that's all. I'm all against vocal mapping because it's boring lel. Also there is no sound there, only prologed ones and I wouldn't map it anyway beause it'd break the flow. tl;dr no change

02:56:070 - here too ^
----

and here,
03:09:196 (189196|3,189532|7) - those 2 notes aren't snapped well fixd

put the 1/8 divisor then

03:09:196 (189196|3) - move note 4 here 03:09:252 -
03:09:532 (189532|7) - move note 8 here 03:09:476 - both fixed

03:31:975 (211975|6) - you followed the high notes of the piano in those pattern right? Delete it I don't think that's piano but I may be wrong lol. No change because there is that sound but barerly audible, listen at 25%

03:41:705 - add note in col 7 done
03:44:137 - add note in col 3 added on 7th and moved 03:43:935 (223935|5) - to 8th, looks much better
04:00:962 (240962|7) - end this LN here 04:02:745 - I want to give players a bit of time to move around LN's since most of 8k players are not that good with them, I may consider that in future tho

hope my little mod will be helpfull and nice song!liked it when testing ♥~

ArcherLove wrote:
Eternalie wrote:
Hi There Misakaze ~

Both diff are really cool imo , so i'm not gonna mod them :V
Instead gonna wish you good luck for it ^^/ gogogo and rank this
so ok
jk :U ggggggggggggggggggggggggg

mod ~
collumn=1~8

[lv.5]

00:21:085 (21085|6,21287|7) - Ctrl + J ? Seems okay
00:22:301 (22301|3) - move to 6 ? I do believe that keeping notes at the same olumn like this is easier for players to hit, thus no change
01:02:792 (62792|5,63060|3) - Ctrl + J ? It's easier to hit as it is, no change
01:18:501 (78501|6) - move to 3 ? same as on 00:22:301
02:46:396 (166396|4,166623|3,166826|2,167029|1) - ctrl+J ? it's easier to hit now and it represents LN's that I mapped in New World (just hanged them into normal notes)
03:15:532 (195532|7,195734|6,195937|5) - move to 2-6-8 ? done

[lv.10]

this seems nice ... and LNs ! ♥~

sorry for short mod .. because really busy xD I love you anyway wwwww
good luck!~

hutunohito wrote:
hi~from M4M
column S1234567
I got unranked because of this once and that's exactly why I've put levels in diff names. I have to ask Arcwin about that, if that's not good than I'll just add |NM| |HD| instead of levels

[Hope]
01:08:568 (68568|7,68771|5,68974|3,69177|1,69379|3) - conflict 01:18:095 (78095|6,78501|6,78906|6) - meow fixed
01:20:528 (80528|5,80528|1,80933|6,80933|2,81339|3,81339|7) - ^ I guess I suddenly wanted some chords lol, added 1/2's to fit
01:39:987 (99987|6,100190|4,100393|2) - move to 135? I wanted to reverse pattern from 01:38:771 (98771|2,98974|4,99177|6) - it feels better to me this way so no change
01:55:686 - add 3 I have a fear that it'll be confusing to players and that's why I leaved it empty, but I guess it'll be fine. Changed
01:58:358 (118358|3) - conflict 01:48:495 (108495|6,109522|2) - Shortened LN on 01:48:495 by 1/2 and added on 01:59:385 - at 4th
02:05:344 - add 1 I didn't want to express that little chime, but changed for now, we'll see how it works out
02:24:443 (144443|1) - move to 2? Intentional, will change if someone else points it out
02:58:741 (178741|4,178741|5,179152|3,179152|2) - ctrl+h? done
04:03:577 (243577|5) - start from 04:03:498 I knew that it sounds off but I didn't knew by how much, fixed
04:08:265 - add meh vocals :/ added
04:25:731 (265731|0) - meow(https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2148872) I didn't notice that D: thanks meow~
04:37:256 (277256|4,277256|5,277667|2,277667|3) - ^^^^ at first I thought that it's unsnapped too lol, done
[New World]
00:27:977 (27977|3,28179|4,28382|5) - conflict 00:18:247 (18247|4,18449|5,18652|6) - fixd
00:50:477 - add I don't think it needs more added on 00:50:882 - tho
01:29:244 - add Noticed that pitch change on flute (?), changed
02:58:741 (178741|5,178741|4,179152|2,179152|3) - ctrl+h risky with those LN's but done
04:25:731 (265731|0) - meow(https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2149072) dem red lines messing up my life hh
04:37:256 (277256|4,277256|5,277667|3,277667|2) - ^^ ^^

Good Luck~

Thanks a lot all of you, I love you all ♥~
Updated

Shrik

135 posts

Joined May 2014

Shrik 2014-10-27T20:44:13+00:00

I smell danks coming

10950,405.405405405405,3,2,0,30,1,0
58382,416.666666666667,3,2,0,30,1,0
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165980,416.666666666667,3,2,0,30,1,0
166396,468.75,3,2,0,30,1,0 - Move the timing point from right to this time and change bpm to 128
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282770,472.44094488189,3,2,0,30,1,1
283240,535.714285714286,3,2,0,30,1,0

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-10-27T20:58:18+00:00

That wasn't the clearest instruction I've ever got, but you explained it better on IRC so danks m90-82

Lunatic Raccoon

546 posts

Joined May 2013

Lunatic Raccoon 2014-10-29T10:16:02+00:00

Wow lol long map
But imma try what i can do
Gonna go for detailed mod on the diff "Hope"

General

Check AIMod, there're tons of these (for both diffs) (Or is it because you have so many timing points)?
Sweet song x3

Hope

00:00:713 (713|0) - I don't think it's necessary, but if you still want it, then i'd prefer replacing it with a long note
00:09:227 (9227|0) - ^
00:40:139 - It's the same volume with placing double notes. But i guess you put this to make hype lol. If that's so give 00:40:139 (40139|5) - a mute volume
Might comes weird but try replace this 01:03:060 (63060|3) - with a LN. You can also add some more long notes to fill up empty spaces
01:26:609 (86609|4) - I think it would fit better if this ends at 01:27:420 (Same as the second LN)
01:50:755 - Long note?
01:50:960 (110960|3) - Ends 01:51:988 Why? to be more like this pattern at 01:49:316
01:46:677 - Double since you used double for the drums at 01:44:852 and many more
01:50:138 (110138|7) - this goes LN or 01:55:070 (115070|4) go normal
02:17:957 (137957|2) - Sudden triple? If so, you should have 02:15:524 tripled as well
02:41:470 (161470|5) - Unnatural and a bit loud hit sound because you didn't put chs to it > lower the volume or have chs for it
02:47:235 - Triple
03:14:715 (194715|6,194919|1) - These to LNs?
03:15:937 (195937|5,196140|4) - ^ Samie
03:19:586 to 03:26:706" lol streak of same pattern. Give it some push-ups like adding notes for left hand piano at 03:22:034 - 03:24:476 - 03:25:692
03:26:908 - Triple brah
03:32:989 - This is kind of a unique drum sound, how about triple?
03:46:367 to 04:00:962 Another streak :3
04:02:745 (242745|1,243102|3) - These are meant to be LNs
04:15:868 (255868|5) - End here 04:16:895
04:43:242 (283242|7,283463|4,283708|1) - Long notes are cool, but how about normal with the first two, then long&double at the final one?

Tips

Putting different chords (in your map it's between double and triple ones) in one same pattern is really creative, as it can reduce boreness to the players, especially with maps which are too long or marathon maps
You should be careful of putting them in certain and suitable parts. For example, triples should be putted on second/third part of the same pattern, as well as Kiais or Epic moments/parts
Be very careful with the volume of keysounds, especially when you use chs (custom hit sounds) for your map
Notice all of the long notes in your map. Be sure when to add them in (vocals, lullaby-like melodies,...) And make sure don't leave too many lonely long notes like this 02:53:810 (173810|4) becuz, it's hard to aim for it, also, very weird if you just put a single long note, and the note chart will look pretty ugly.. I recommend adding some companions for it, like another LN or normal note, on specific timings/sounds ....
Don't repeat a pattern many times pls.... You don't have to place notes exactly at the same collumn with the same sounds lol

Good luck!

Edit: Gawd i forgot it's a 7K+1 map. Terribly sory ;w;

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-10-29T14:11:52+00:00

Lunatic Raccoon wrote:
Wow lol long map
But imma try what i can do
Gonna go for detailed mod on the diff "Hope" I'll apply some stuffs to New World too, since I based Hope on it and to count it as full mod heuheuheuehueheuh

General
Check AIMod, there're tons of these (for both diffs) (Or is it because you have so many timing points)?
Damn, didn't notice that. It's because of recent timing fix rip What's interesting, there was only one stacked on another object in New world, no unsnaps lelelelel
Sweet song x3

Hope
00:00:713 (713|0) - I don't think it's necessary, but if you still want it, then i'd prefer replacing it with a long note
00:09:227 (9227|0) - ^ The idea is, that you sort of "start" that sound with first note and then "stop" it with second one, I used LN for the first sound in New World, but second sound with LN is something I don't understand lel. Anyway no change.
00:40:139 - It's the same volume with placing double notes. But i guess you put this to make hype lol. If that's so give 00:40:139 (40139|5) - a mute volume Pitch change + vocal, idk why I left that one tho, maybe just for hype like you said xD, no change for now, will change if someone else notices it
Might comes weird but try replace this 01:03:060 (63060|3) - with a LN. You can also add some more long notes to fill up empty spaces Totally intentional Changed on New World tho
01:26:609 (86609|4) - I think it would fit better if this ends at 01:27:420 (Same as the second LN) Pitch change, no change I adjusted second LN in New World tho
01:50:755 - Long note? Normal note
01:50:960 (110960|3) - Ends 01:51:988 Why? to be more like this pattern at 01:49:316 Done on both diffs
01:46:677 - Double since you used double for the drums at 01:44:852 and many more Fixd
01:50:138 (110138|7) - this goes LN or 01:55:070 (115070|4) go normal First option
02:17:957 (137957|2) - Sudden triple? If so, you should have 02:15:524 tripled as well One note for flute, one for drum and S for chime, there's no flute pitch change on 2:15, so no change
02:41:470 (161470|5) - Unnatural and a bit loud hit sound because you didn't put chs to it > lower the volume or have chs for it Lowered volume, since it's not good for chs
02:47:235 - Triple Prolonged 02:44:714 (164714|7) - and changed 02:47:235 (167235|6) - to normal note instead
03:14:715 (194715|6,194919|1) - These to LNs? Pause intended, also I don't want to use LN's here
03:15:937 (195937|5,196140|4) - ^ Samie ^
03:19:586 to 03:26:706" lol streak of same pattern. Give it some push-ups like adding notes for left hand piano at 03:22:034 - 03:24:476 - 03:25:692 I mapped piano on right hand, but added your suggestions and added some notes on the end part since it gets heavier
03:26:908 - Triple brah kkkkkk
03:32:989 - This is kind of a unique drum sound, how about triple? Seems like a good idea since it's noticably stronger, fixd on both diffs
03:46:367 to 04:00:962 Another streak :3 Piano streak ayyyy. No, seriously, piano is same as on the earlier streak, with addition of drums, so I at least made a diffrent pattern on it
04:02:745 (242745|1,243102|3) - These are meant to be LNs I didn't do them as LN's to make it easier to play. AHH WELL FUCK IT LN'ING THEM
04:15:868 (255868|5) - End here 04:16:895 kdon
04:43:242 (283242|7,283463|4,283708|1) - Long notes are cool, but how about normal with the first two, then long&double at the final one? I love it like it is atm, no change

Tips
Putting different chords (in your map it's between double and triple ones) in one same pattern is really creative, as it can reduce boreness to the players, especially with maps which are too long or marathon maps
You should be careful of putting them in certain and suitable parts. For example, triples should be putted on second/third part of the same pattern, as well as Kiais or Epic moments/parts I'll try mapping more chords on kiais, since chorus op
Be very careful with the volume of keysounds, especially when you use chs (custom hit sounds) for your map Those are ALL on 30% or lower, so I don't see a problem
Notice all of the long notes in your map. Be sure when to add them in (vocals, lullaby-like melodies,...) And make sure don't leave too many lonely long notes like this 02:53:810 (173810|4) becuz, it's hard to aim for it, also, very weird if you just put a single long note, and the note chart will look pretty ugly.. I recommend adding some companions for it, like another LN or normal note, on specific timings/sounds .... On the point you mentioned it, it's perfectly fine, there's nothing else to map there. I could only do 2 chord or single LN (did double on New World) so I went for LN because reasons. Also I tried to put low amount of LN's and it turned out like it did. New World is still a better chart :V
Don't repeat a pattern many times pls.... You don't have to place notes exactly at the same collumn with the same sounds lol I aimed for finger ballance, and I judged every note in 2 ways: 1) Place note so it's comfortable to hit (eg. column has not been used too much in a moment) 2) Pitch in places where pitch changes are obvious. As for repeating patterns, I got that beaten down pretty hard into me that map should be consistent in both note density and patterns on similar sounds, that's why I'm keeping map consistent. I still find this particular one fun, so I'm fine with that.

Good luck!

Edit: Gawd i forgot it's a 7K+1 map. Terribly sory ;w; npnp, you weren't complaining about scratches so I didn't even notice xD

Thanks a lot! Be sure to check "Tips" cuz I explained some stuff there

Evening

2,464 posts

Joined December 2012

Evening 2014-10-31T13:56:26+00:00

back to modding bitches

[General]

Idk about this but there are a shitton of bpm changes, you might want to normalise the scroll speed with sv changes and shit

Chimes muthafaka

Idk about "high OD" (in osu!mania) cause the rhythm is rather dynamic, you might want to give more ms for error

HP is okay imo

As for the hitsounds, you might want to make the soft-hitnormals that chord low in volume so that they don't sound too outstanding

[Lv.5 Hope]

ik the pitch relevancy thing, won't nitpick things
but i have to point out some stuff, so...

00:48:247 (48247|1,48652|3) - These 2 are the same pitch, probably should "trill"
00:51:085 (51085|5,51085|2,51490|3,51490|4) - These 2 are somewhat the "same" vocal, might want to hammer? ( it's not really even a hard hammer anyways ww )
00:52:301 (52301|3,52504|4,52706|5) - Should make these notes "further" away like 00:55:949 (55949|2,56152|4,56355|6) - since the vocal here feels louder than 00:53:517 (53517|1,53720|3,53922|5) - ( make these closer instead )
01:02:525 (62525|7,62792|5,63060|3) - not sure but I feel that if you put 3 on one single hand it feels more elegant

01:14:447 (74447|2,74650|5,74852|2,75055|5,75258|1,75460|7) - Not sure about alternating hand pattern here, it feels unsuitable here imo - Might want to stair from 01:14:447 - to 01:15:258 - left to right ( it feels like pitch is increasing somewhat )
01:16:068 - Chord here? there's like more than 1 instrument thingymajiggy
01:30:460 (90460|4) - Remove this? - I prefer a break here, it fits quite well with the music
02:26:470 (146470|1,146876|1,147281|1,147687|1,147687|0) - Idk if this is a bit too hard for Lv.5 cause it's somewhat awkward to change fingering while "hammering" (considering this is an easy diff)
03:15:532 (195532|7,195734|6,195937|5,196140|4) - I really think that you should separate this into 2 doubles, the pitch difference is really too great to not ignore lol
03:53:056 (233056|1,233259|2,233462|3) - Might want to change this a bit, repeating too much with a variation in the music is rather weird imo

very sexy, idk what to think of this cause i don't really play easy diffs lol.

[Lv.10]

00:51:085 (51085|1,51085|2,51085|5,51490|3,51490|4,51490|6) - Same as previously i feel that this should be a hammer or something
01:42:420 (102420|6) - Maybe change this to a 1/1 LN and change 01:43:028 (103028|4,103231|3,103433|4) - these to chords for impact for the drums and shiz
And probably even make this a 4 chord 01:43:636 -
01:48:495 (108495|6,108905|7) - Probably should swap columns, it's less awkward imo
03:25:490 (205490|2,205692|1,205692|3) - Move to right by 1 , it's a weird bracket here imo
03:25:895 - i was thinking that you should make this part harder than the rest ( before this pattern ) so as to show that the music escalates
04:02:745 (242745|1,243102|3) - Are you sure you wanna end these LNs like these? ( sometimes they give me aids and cancer )
04:22:032 (262032|3,262237|4,262443|5) - You might wanna end these 1/2 earlier to fit to the vocal here, it feels better imo
04:25:731 - Might want to retrigger kiai again for fountain
04:35:613 (275613|3) - Make this a note? the vocal here is kinda short/staccato
04:41:800 (281800|5,282030|4,282255|3) - End this at the vocal again

Lv.10 plays/looks very nice ( lol i can't press special key, thus i omitted it when playing )

gl or something or whatever people say at the bottom of this mod thing

sweg sweg, sweg on you

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-10-31T18:07:42+00:00

lZenxl wrote:
back to modding bitches SWAG MEISTER HAS CAME BACK UPON OUR NEEDS ALL HAIL THE SWEG MAISTER

[General]

Idk about this but there are a shitton of bpm changes, you might want to normalise the scroll speed with sv changes and shit It's actually okay when playing, because it's only 20-40 bpm of diffrence at max, and slowest point fit same as sv change would. I'll normalize it when BAT tells me to

Chimes muthafaka #ferkchimes2014

Idk about "high OD" (in osu!mania) cause the rhythm is rather dynamic, you might want to give more ms for error I believe that it's fine. OD 8 is still very spammy (especially compared to other games), if I change something, I'll reduce it on Hope by 0,5, but no more

HP is okay imo

As for the hitsounds, you might want to make the soft-hitnormals that chord low in volume so that they don't sound too outstanding As in, lower all, or lower for chords only? I don't quite get it

Little note since you probably forgot to reread the about map stuff, which I don't blame you for, since I didn't announce any changes or anything lmao:
I didn't follow vocals (with very few exceptions). 95% of time vocals follow instruments I'm mapping
[Lv.5 Hope]

ik the pitch relevancy thing, won't nitpick things
but i have to point out some stuff, so...

00:48:247 (48247|1,48652|3) - These 2 are the same pitch, probably should "trill" Moved first one to 3rd
00:51:085 (51085|5,51085|2,51490|3,51490|4) - These 2 are somewhat the "same" vocal, might want to hammer? ( it's not really even a hard hammer anyways ww ) I think it's fine as a pattern, also I'm following bells, not vocals, and those kinda change pitch
00:52:301 (52301|3,52504|4,52706|5) - Should make these notes "further" away like 00:55:949 (55949|2,56152|4,56355|6) - since the vocal here feels louder than 00:53:517 (53517|1,53720|3,53922|5) - ( make these closer instead ) Again, not really following vocal, but changed anyway. Also reversed 53:5 things cuz reasons
01:02:525 (62525|7,62792|5,63060|3) - not sure but I feel that if you put 3 on one single hand it feels more elegant Plays almost the same, so I'll change it

01:14:447 (74447|2,74650|5,74852|2,75055|5,75258|1,75460|7) - Not sure about alternating hand pattern here, it feels unsuitable here imo - Might want to stair from 01:14:447 - to 01:15:258 - left to right ( it feels like pitch is increasing somewhat ) kkkk
01:16:068 - Chord here? there's like more than 1 instrument thingymajiggy Majou's are nasty things =^)^)^)^) Added on 7th since it creates a neat stair and makes this section look better overall
01:30:460 (90460|4) - Remove this? - I prefer a break here, it fits quite well with the music Agreed, also spread pattern on right hand to make it look better aesthetically
02:26:470 (146470|1,146876|1,147281|1,147687|1,147687|0) - Idk if this is a bit too hard for Lv.5 cause it's somewhat awkward to change fingering while "hammering" (considering this is an easy diff) Well it's more of a normal diff than easy. I'll keep it for now since I think that apart from last one it's not that hard. Also if I'd make a trill out of this it'd be even more painful and I'd have to move 2 notes that stair into LN on the other side to avoid finger confusion nvm, changed some things lelelelelel
03:15:532 (195532|7,195734|6,195937|5,196140|4) - I really think that you should separate this into 2 doubles, the pitch difference is really too great to not ignore lol I hope that's okay
03:53:056 (233056|1,233259|2,233462|3) - Might want to change this a bit, repeating too much with a variation in the music is rather weird imo I'm mapping that one intrument that doesn't change at all (violin? guitar? I don't fuckin know) it's the same as on 03:19:180 (199180|3,199383|5,199586|3,199790|5,199994|7,200198|3,200402|5,200606|7,200810|3,201014|5,201218|7,201422|3,201626|5,201830|7,202034|3,202239|5,202443|7,202647|3,202851|5,203055|7,203259|3,203463|5,203665|7,203868|3,204071|5,204273|7,204476|3,204679|5,204881|7) - but I'm mapping drums with it this time instead of piano

very sexy, idk what to think of this cause i don't really play easy diffs lol. 11/10 would bang

[Lv.10]

00:51:085 (51085|1,51085|2,51085|5,51490|3,51490|4,51490|6) - Same as previously i feel that this should be a hammer or something I wanted to avoid hammers in this point, beccause I think that these play better. Also same reason as in Lv.5
01:42:420 (102420|6) - Maybe change this to a 1/1 LN and change 01:43:028 (103028|4,103231|3,103433|4) - these to chords for impact for the drums and shiz k done
And probably even make this a 4 chord 01:43:636 - Should be okay, done
01:48:495 (108495|6,108905|7) - Probably should swap columns, it's less awkward imo Oh, yeah, I see why, thanks. Also applied to all similar patterns, since it's sweg
03:25:490 (205490|2,205692|1,205692|3) - Move to right by 1 , it's a weird bracket here imo Rearranged a bit diffrently
03:25:895 - i was thinking that you should make this part harder than the rest ( before this pattern ) so as to show that the music escalates It's kinda escalating, then going a bit lower and again escalating. I added some notes here and there tho
04:02:745 (242745|1,243102|3) - Are you sure you wanna end these LNs like these? ( sometimes they give me aids and cancer ) Actually idk, I want to keep th releases in the same manner to make both of them the same lenght, but not sure about their lenght. Would be nice if you could give me some example of how'd you see it
04:22:032 (262032|3,262237|4,262443|5) - You might wanna end these 1/2 earlier to fit to the vocal here, it feels better imo Again, not a vocal, but I agree that it feels somewhat better. Also intruments change about the same time so w/e
04:25:731 - Might want to retrigger kiai again for fountain OH, THERE'S EVEN KIAI HERE OYYYY I seriously didn't know anything about it, I just copypasted it along with timings ~~how to do that fountain anyway?~~
04:35:613 (275613|3) - Make this a note? the vocal here is kinda short/staccato Instrument is longer
04:41:800 (281800|5,282030|4,282255|3) - End this at the vocal again Again, not a vocal, but I badly rensapped it after timing fix so adjusted

Lv.10 plays/looks very nice ( lol i can't press special key, thus i omitted it when playing ) B)

gl or something or whatever people say at the bottom of this mod thing worst of luck, go kill yourself would sound more mlg

sweg sweg, sweg on you

Danks 10 mod, I obtained many swegs EDIT: and broke da page, kool

Evening

2,464 posts

Joined December 2012

Evening 2014-11-02T07:43:03+00:00

-Kamikaze- wrote:
back to modding bitches SWAG MEISTER HAS CAME BACK UPON OUR NEEDS ALL HAIL THE SWEG MAISTER

[General]

Idk about this but there are a shitton of bpm changes, you might want to normalise the scroll speed with sv changes and shit It's actually okay when playing, because it's only 20-40 bpm of diffrence at max, and slowest point fit same as sv change would. I'll normalize it when BAT tells me to

Chimes muthafaka #ferkchimes2014

Idk about "high OD" (in osu!mania) cause the rhythm is rather dynamic, you might want to give more ms for error I believe that it's fine. OD 8 is still very spammy (especially compared to other games), if I change something, I'll reduce it on Hope by 0,5, but no more

HP is okay imo

As for the hitsounds, you might want to make the soft-hitnormals that chord low in volume so that they don't sound too outstanding As in, lower all, or lower for chords only? I don't quite get it I'm just aiming at the more outstanding chords, like 3 - 6 note chords, you might not want to have the player hear a loud soft-hitnormal for no reason at all, just saying

Little note since you probably forgot to reread the about map stuff, which I don't blame you for, since I didn't announce any changes or anything lmao:
I didn't follow vocals (with very few exceptions). 95% of time vocals follow instruments I'm mapping
[Lv.5 Hope]

ik the pitch relevancy thing, won't nitpick things
but i have to point out some stuff, so...

00:48:247 (48247|1,48652|3) - These 2 are the same pitch, probably should "trill" Moved first one to 3rd
00:51:085 (51085|5,51085|2,51490|3,51490|4) - These 2 are somewhat the "same" vocal, might want to hammer? ( it's not really even a hard hammer anyways ww ) I think it's fine as a pattern, also I'm following bells, not vocals, and those kinda change pitch
00:52:301 (52301|3,52504|4,52706|5) - Should make these notes "further" away like 00:55:949 (55949|2,56152|4,56355|6) - since the vocal here feels louder than 00:53:517 (53517|1,53720|3,53922|5) - ( make these closer instead ) Again, not really following vocal, but changed anyway. Also reversed 53:5 things cuz reasons
01:02:525 (62525|7,62792|5,63060|3) - not sure but I feel that if you put 3 on one single hand it feels more elegant Plays almost the same, so I'll change it

01:14:447 (74447|2,74650|5,74852|2,75055|5,75258|1,75460|7) - Not sure about alternating hand pattern here, it feels unsuitable here imo - Might want to stair from 01:14:447 - to 01:15:258 - left to right ( it feels like pitch is increasing somewhat ) kkkk
01:16:068 - Chord here? there's like more than 1 instrument thingymajiggy Majou's are nasty things =^)^)^)^) Added on 7th since it creates a neat stair and makes this section look better overall
01:30:460 (90460|4) - Remove this? - I prefer a break here, it fits quite well with the music Agreed, also spread pattern on right hand to make it look better aesthetically
02:26:470 (146470|1,146876|1,147281|1,147687|1,147687|0) - Idk if this is a bit too hard for Lv.5 cause it's somewhat awkward to change fingering while "hammering" (considering this is an easy diff) Well it's more of a normal diff than easy. I'll keep it for now since I think that apart from last one it's not that hard. Also if I'd make a trill out of this it'd be even more painful and I'd have to move 2 notes that stair into LN on the other side to avoid finger confusion nvm, changed some things lelelelelel
03:15:532 (195532|7,195734|6,195937|5,196140|4) - I really think that you should separate this into 2 doubles, the pitch difference is really too great to not ignore lol I hope that's okay
03:53:056 (233056|1,233259|2,233462|3) - Might want to change this a bit, repeating too much with a variation in the music is rather weird imo I'm mapping that one intrument that doesn't change at all (violin? guitar? I don't fuckin know) it's the same as on 03:19:180 (199180|3,199383|5,199586|3,199790|5,199994|7,200198|3,200402|5,200606|7,200810|3,201014|5,201218|7,201422|3,201626|5,201830|7,202034|3,202239|5,202443|7,202647|3,202851|5,203055|7,203259|3,203463|5,203665|7,203868|3,204071|5,204273|7,204476|3,204679|5,204881|7) - but I'm mapping drums with it this time instead of piano

very sexy, idk what to think of this cause i don't really play easy diffs lol. 11/10 would bang

[Lv.10]

00:51:085 (51085|1,51085|2,51085|5,51490|3,51490|4,51490|6) - Same as previously i feel that this should be a hammer or something I wanted to avoid hammers in this point, beccause I think that these play better. Also same reason as in Lv.5
01:42:420 (102420|6) - Maybe change this to a 1/1 LN and change 01:43:028 (103028|4,103231|3,103433|4) - these to chords for impact for the drums and shiz k done
And probably even make this a 4 chord 01:43:636 - Should be okay, done
01:48:495 (108495|6,108905|7) - Probably should swap columns, it's less awkward imo Oh, yeah, I see why, thanks. Also applied to all similar patterns, since it's sweg
03:25:490 (205490|2,205692|1,205692|3) - Move to right by 1 , it's a weird bracket here imo Rearranged a bit diffrently
03:25:895 - i was thinking that you should make this part harder than the rest ( before this pattern ) so as to show that the music escalates It's kinda escalating, then going a bit lower and again escalating. I added some notes here and there tho
04:02:745 (242745|1,243102|3) - Are you sure you wanna end these LNs like these? ( sometimes they give me aids and cancer ) Actually idk, I want to keep th releases in the same manner to make both of them the same lenght, but not sure about their lenght. Would be nice if you could give me some example of how'd you see it http://puu.sh/czYm9/dbcc487135.jpg Basically like this, cause the violin is a single instrument, i don't think overlapping LNs are suitable for a single
04:22:032 (262032|3,262237|4,262443|5) - You might wanna end these 1/2 earlier to fit to the vocal here, it feels better imo Again, not a vocal, but I agree that it feels somewhat better. Also intruments change about the same time so w/e
04:25:731 - Might want to retrigger kiai again for fountain OH, THERE'S EVEN KIAI HERE OYYYY I seriously didn't know anything about it, I just copypasted it along with timings ~~how to do that fountain anyway?~~ Fountain is pretty much triggered at the start of a kiai time, so turning off and turning it on again with re-fountain ( make sure to do this on lv.5 also )
04:35:613 (275613|3) - Make this a note? the vocal here is kinda short/staccato Instrument is longer
04:41:800 (281800|5,282030|4,282255|3) - End this at the vocal again Again, not a vocal, but I badly rensapped it after timing fix so adjusted

Lv.10 plays/looks very nice ( lol i can't press special key, thus i omitted it when playing ) B)

gl or something or whatever people say at the bottom of this mod thing worst of luck, go kill yourself would sound more mlg

sweg sweg, sweg on you
Danks 10 mod, I obtained many swegs EDIT: and broke da page, kool

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-11-02T15:29:00+00:00

lZenxl wrote:
As for the hitsounds, you might want to make the soft-hitnormals that chord low in volume so that they don't sound too outstanding As in, lower all, or lower for chords only? I don't quite get it I'm just aiming at the more outstanding chords, like 3 - 6 note chords, you might not want to have the player hear a loud soft-hitnormal for no reason at all, just saying Changed soft-hitnormal and adjusted volumes of samples

04:02:745 (242745|1,243102|3) - Are you sure you wanna end these LNs like these? ( sometimes they give me aids and cancer ) Actually idk, I want to keep th releases in the same manner to make both of them the same lenght, but not sure about their lenght. Would be nice if you could give me some example of how'd you see it http://puu.sh/czYm9/dbcc487135.jpg Basically like this, cause the violin is a single instrument, i don't think overlapping LNs are suitable for a single Well, yeah, it's better technically, done

04:25:731 - Might want to retrigger kiai again for fountain OH, THERE'S EVEN KIAI HERE OYYYY I seriously didn't know anything about it, I just copypasted it along with timings ~~how to do that fountain anyway?~~ Fountain is pretty much triggered at the start of a kiai time, so turning off and turning it on again with re-fountain ( make sure to do this on lv.5 also ) kk will do

richardfeder

1,056 posts

Joined March 2013

richardfeder 2014-11-11T02:43:50+00:00

~~incoming!~~ sry for being late
seems that both of you don't like PR? LOL
Better add some inherit timing points in easy diffs to keep notes falling in the same speed throughout gameplay. Even minor speed change may cause confusions for newbie. For instance your initial BPM is 148, than if you have a section of BPM120, add a inherit timing point with sv * 1.23

6K

0|1|2|3|4|5
I am not a expect in 6K and I never map 6K so yay. These are just suggestions:
00:22:504 - missing a note
00:50:477 - ^

01:26:609 (86609|5,87014|4,87622|0,87825|1,88028|2,88231|3) - awk

01:30:460 (90460|2) - add a note I think this harp is quite audible

01:31:474 (91474|2) - move to 5

01:34:312 (94312|5) - extend 1/2
01:35:122 (95122|0) - delete
01:35:528 (95528|1,95731|4,95933|2,96136|5,96339|3) - delete
no idea why you suddenly spam double here...

01:37:352 - from here: if you want to follow voice/flute, use LNs(single LN for each voice/flute) instead of double notes. Also applies for 01:39:177 (99177|4,100393|2) - .

01:47:690 (107690|4,107893|3,108095|2,108298|1,108495|4,108495|0,108905|2) - ctrl+h. Then 01:47:690 (107690|1,107893|2,108095|3,108298|4) - move left by one column. 01:48:501 (108501|4) - add a note for bell.
btw 01:48:495 (108495|1,108905|3) - this is not recommend. Just use two LNs instead of extended one and a normal note

Be consistent. 01:50:960 (110960|3,110960|2,110960|0) - triple(LN + bell +beat whatever) vs. 01:48:495 (108495|1) - single(LN for theme only). They obviously should be the same. Again 01:53:426 (113426|0,113426|1) - double...so you have single/double/triple for same kind of sounds... be careful

01:59:590 (119590|5,120001|2,120001|4,120412|1,120412|5) - again suddenly double. You can't say that oh here is becoming empty all 1/1 chord so just double everything. Instead you can use LN, they eliminate emptiness pretty well.

You can revise the repeated section on your own. All suggestions list above apply for the whole chart so I won't repeat them below >.<
02:15:727 (135727|1) - no sound. delete

02:19:578 - missing a note

02:10:660 (130660|3,130660|0) - vs 02:13:092 (133092|0,133092|3) - vs 02:17:957 (137957|5,137957|3,137957|0) -
02:20:389 - you can start triple here that's not a big problem since you are now handling a repeated part it's totally valid to make it harder. But triple here 02:17:957 (137957|5,137957|3,137957|0) - is kinda nonsense.

02:30:119 - I am kinda bored with these...why not start following flute or other instrument eg the combination of flute and drums. You can hear that , for instance 02:31:538 - , flute preforms in a pretty interesting flow rather than the monotone harp. Chart will get bother if you keep doing the same thing over and over again.

02:39:038 (159038|2) - missing a note

02:47:099 (167099|1,167216|0,167216|4) - seems off... I guess red line at 167235 is at a bad timing...

02:49:495 (169495|3) - add a note

02:58:125 (178125|3) - ^

03:25:895 (205895|3,206098|2,206300|1,206503|0,206706|1) - ???

03:29:137 (209137|2) - add a note

03:33:394 (213394|2,213799|4) - delete and add at 03:33:597 (213597|3) -

03:36:840 (216840|5) - add a note...you treat here differently x.x...you can refer to 03:31:975 (211975|4) -

03:47:786 (227786|4) - delete this sound is on a different layer
03:48:597 (228597|2) - ^
same for the rest..

8K

sp 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
I see you apply some mod to 8K Lv.5 that's awesome. I will focus on Lv.10 and see if my suggestion can help you a bit

00:15:612 (15612|4) - ?

00:22:504 (22504|2) - add a note?

01:12:217 (72217|2) - move to 5
01:12:420 (72420|4,72622|6,72825|3,72825|1) - 1 3 57

01:14:244 (74244|5) - add a note yes there is sound

01:25:798 - I recommend you to do this but just my opinion tho http://puu.sh/cRc33/11173a03bf.jpg

01:35:528 (95528|6) - you may want to double this

01:42:420 (102420|6) - quite awk

01:50:960 (110960|3,111371|4,111577|5) - end too early

01:56:303 (116303|4) - ??

02:04:522 (124522|0) - delete?

02:10:862 (130862|1) - delete

02:15:524 (135524|6) - awk
02:25:254 (145254|2) - ^

02:42:484 (162484|7) - delete

03:04:084 (184084|0) - add a sp?

03:16:342 (196342|5,196545|2,196748|4,196950|3) - actually notes like these should also be doubles. 03:17:559 (197559|5,197761|4) - these singles are valid since piano stops here. In case of 03:16:342 (196342|5,196545|2,196748|4,196950|3) - , not really imo :p

03:24:476 (204476|2,204476|3,204679|5,204679|1,204679|6) - ? I think 03:24:476 (204476|2,204476|3) - should be triple 03:24:679 (204679|5,204679|1,204679|6) - double

03:27:110 (207110|3) - add a note

03:36:840 (216840|2) - ^

03:39:272 (219272|2) - ^

04:03:458 (243458|5,246005|7,246415|6) - pain(X

OK for me overall. Nice!

Tidek's style is kinda..out of my understanding(maybe we map in different style?) so I decided not to touch his diff much. Good luck on this set! Also plz grab a star mania need more 8K!

Last edited by richardfeder 2014-11-15T02:56:14+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kamikaze

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Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-11-11T20:09:16+00:00

richardfeder wrote:
~~incoming!~~ sry for being late No problem! o/
seems that both of you don't like PR? LOL It's not that I don't like it, I just don't focus on it
Better add some inherit timing points in easy diffs to keep notes falling in the same speed throughout gameplay. Even minor speed change may cause confusions for newbie. For instance your initial BPM is 148, than if you have a section of BPM120, add a inherit timing point with sv * 1.23 Okays will normalize all to 148, since it's the one that is used for setting scroll speed
6K
0|1|2|3|4|5
Lol idk what diff it is for but I'll try to apply these to my diff lel
I am not a expect in 6K and I never map 6K so yay. These are just suggestions:
00:22:504 - missing a note Wasn't sure about putting a note there and I knida waited for someone to point it out, added now
00:50:477 - ^ Added, not sure about current pattern, but well, I guess I'll have to just let it go~

01:26:609 (86609|5,87014|4,87622|0,87825|1,88028|2,88231|3) - awk Changed second LN into normal note and added note for guitar (?) 1/2 later

01:30:460 (90460|2) - add a note I think this harp is quite audible Nah, but added on 01:31:068 -

01:31:474 (91474|2) - move to 5 Done

01:34:312 (94312|5) - extend 1/2 I'm not sure, flute stops 1/1 earlier (I had it wrong anyway) and this can be more uncomfortable to paly, so I'll just shorten LN according to flute not sure if I should put note on 01:35:325 - D:
01:35:122 (95122|0) - delete Okay
01:35:528 (95528|1,95731|4,95933|2,96136|5,96339|3) - delete Done, also adjusted pattern a little
no idea why you suddenly spam double here... I felt like it's stronger I guess D:

01:37:352 - from here: if you want to follow voice/flute, use LNs(single LN for each voice/flute) instead of double notes. Also applies for 01:39:177 (99177|4,100393|2) - . I kinda wanted to make it as low on LN's as possible, not using LN's there in lower diffs but I'll make them as 1 note and will probably use that in higher diff

01:47:690 (107690|4,107893|3,108095|2,108298|1,108495|4,108495|0,108905|2) - ctrl+h. Then 01:47:690 (107690|1,107893|2,108095|3,108298|4) - move left by one column. 01:48:501 (108501|4) - add a note for bell.
btw 01:48:495 (108495|1,108905|3) - this is not recommend. Just use two LNs instead of extended one and a normal note Applied all, note for bell seems risky, but well, let's try it out. Also changed that note beside LN into LN to end where the first one ends, seems better now

Be consistent. 01:50:960 (110960|3,110960|2,110960|0) - triple(LN + bell +beat whatever) vs. 01:48:495 (108495|1) - single(LN for theme only). They obviously should be the same. Again 01:53:426 (113426|0,113426|1) - double...so you have single/double/triple for same kind of sounds... be careful I'm still bad at keeping consistency orz

01:59:590 (119590|5,120001|2,120001|4,120412|1,120412|5) - again suddenly double. You can't say that oh here is becoming empty all 1/1 chord so just double everything. Instead you can use LN, they eliminate emptiness pretty well. Doing the same thing as with previous doubles

You can revise the repeated section on your own. All suggestions list above apply for the whole chart so I won't repeat them below >.< Will do o/
02:15:727 (135727|1) - no sound. delete Done

02:19:578 - missing a note Added

02:10:660 (130660|3,130660|0) - vs 02:13:092 (133092|0,133092|3) - vs 02:17:957 (137957|5,137957|3,137957|0) - Deleted one on 02:17
02:20:389 - you can start triple here that's not a big problem since you are now handling a repeated part it's totally valid to make it harder. But triple here 02:17:957 (137957|5,137957|3,137957|0) - is kinda nonsense. Well I'm kinda mapping triples from there, so only checking if they're consistent

02:30:119 - I am kinda bored with these...why not start following flute or other instrument eg the combination of flute and drums. You can hear that , for instance 02:31:538 - , flute preforms in a pretty interesting flow rather than the monotone harp. Chart will get bother if you keep doing the same thing over and over again. I just don't know how to make things more interesting without making it harder than it should be, I'll try to add some notes for other instruments, but core of the pattern remains for now

02:39:038 (159038|2) - missing a note

02:47:099 (167099|1,167216|0,167216|4) - seems off... I guess red line at 167235 is at a bad timing... Hmm.. I think it's fine (2 noter has been snapped to wrong line tho) Bell and stuff kinda cuts in half of rhythm there. I already asked for one timing check and it seems correct now, will get another check if someone else points it out

02:49:495 (169495|3) - add a note You're the second person who brought this up (Hutuno pointed it out in 8k which is almost the same as my 6k) I don't like the idea of following the vocal, but I'll do it

02:58:125 (178125|3) - ^ I wonder if it's not too hard

03:25:895 (205895|3,206098|2,206300|1,206503|0,206706|1) - ??? I added notes there to emphasize piano volume increase, but after thinking it through it's kinda aids so removed apart from the first one

03:29:137 (209137|2) - add a note Done

03:33:394 (213394|2,213799|4) - delete and add at 03:33:597 (213597|3) - Done

03:36:840 (216840|5) - add a note...you treat here differently x.x...you can refer to 03:31:975 (211975|4) - Shiet, right

03:47:786 (227786|4) - delete this sound is on a different layer That's not the sound I'm mapping here, I'm mapping the constant 1/2 violin(?) in background and drum
03:48:597 (228597|2) - ^
same for the rest..

Thanks a whole lot PC, I'll apply as much as I can to 8K Lv.5 since they're almost identical and looking forward to the rest of the mod o/

spoonguy

261 posts

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spoonguy 2014-11-14T17:03:47+00:00

apparently i'm one of the only people who actually plays 6k
so yeah les go

Also one thing before I start: I know you're not following PR here. But in an easy song as this one it's pretty important to at least express the change of pitch. By that I mean you shouldn't jack when the pitch actually changes, it just feels weird to play something like that.

[Tidek's 6k Lv.10 something seed]
1|2|3|4|5|6

SPOILER

00:15:206 - I'm not going to convince you to change some like that one because... although it feels weird it kinda fits. I still recommend you to do so tho.
00:28:990 - ^
00:38:720 - actually pretty much every jack in this section of this song is that way, i'm feeling lazy so i won't point out the rest of them :c
00:48:449 - this one is kinda obligatory to change, the change in pitch is reaaaaaally obvious, besides it's also a part of the song that uses a different sound, so it wouldn't be inconsistent if you changed it but didn't change the rest.

00:15:612 - Missing a note here.
00:48:855 (48855|5) - It'd be better if that note wasn't part of the stair pattern, since it comes from a sound that's different from the rest of the notes in the stair. Move to 1? 2? 3?
01:16:474 - add a note here pls.

01:31:068 - if you want to be technical, you should start using 2 note chords here for this pattern instead of 01:30:663 -
02:46:396 (166396|3,166630|2,166864|5,167099|0) - you should find a way to differ these notes from these: 02:45:322 (165322|3,165524|2) - while playing it feels like they are expressing the same thing, you could use lns for the voice pattern or change the notes around in the second pattern, so they don't start the same way as the first one

03:33:597 - note missing here
03:34:002 - ^
03:43:326 - ^
03:43:732 - ^

03:54:678 (234678|4) - jack feels pretty weird here due to the change in pr in the main melody

04:20:594 - missing note here
04:23:059 - ^

04:43:240 - you might want to express the notes in another way. it's probably just me but it feels a bit too empty to have them as just that :c, do grace notes maybe?

[6k Lv.5 somethingness]

SPOILER

00:17:841 (17841|1) - please don't jack here, even the vocals change pitch ;--;
00:28:787 (28787|2,28990|3,29193|4) - it feels really weird to have this pattern be the same as the earlier one considering they are expressing different melodies, just move this somewhere else, maybe ctrl+h it
00:48:855 (48855|2) - move to 4 so it doesn't feel connected to either 00:48:247 (48247|1,48449|0,48652|1) - or the stair later

01:34:312 - imo feels strange to have the guitar layer stop here just for the sake of the "epic cool LN hold it till it ends". continue mapping those 1/2s c:
02:23:632 (143632|3,144038|3,144443|3,144849|3,145254|3) - that pattern although completely ok to play doesn't feel very fun, try to break that anchor in the 4th column

02:31:538 - iirc the lvl.10 diff didn't even include 1/4s in any way, are you sure it's a good idea to use them in the lower diff for not very noticeable sounds?

02:41:268 - add a note here
02:42:078 - ^
02:43:700 - ^
02:44:511 - ^
03:34:002 - ^
04:07:237 - ^

[8k new something]
|S|1|2|3|4|5|6|7

SPOILER

00:19:058 (19058|3,19260|4,19463|5) - change this pattern so it's not the same as 00:18:247 (18247|3,18449|4,18652|5) -
00:28:787 (28787|3,28990|4,29193|5) - ^ same in relation to 00:27:977 (27977|3,28179|4,28382|5) -

00:48:855 (48855|4) - move this note to 1 to disconnect it from the patterns earlier and later to it. I guess doing it that way should actually disconnect them, and if does connect to a pattern, it'll connect to 00:49:058 - which i guess isn't a really bad thing

03:33:597 - missing note here

04:05:232 - feels like you've just copy pasted these choruses. there is indeed a change in density and pattern from the first to the second, but from the second to the third it feels like nothing has changed, not even the end of the chorus.
What I'd do is keep 04:05:232 - as it is and change something in 04:25:750 - . Maybe add more LNs. I believe doing it that way adds a bit more "sauce" to the map. Your call here though.
(btw the same thing can be said about 6k sadness and 8k solitude, they are lower diffs tho so i don't believe you should add to the density of them, maybe rearrange things a bit?)

adding suggestions:
01:09:379 - add a note here
01:13:839 - ^
01:27:420 - if you are being technical add a note here and 01:27:622 - here for the flute.
01:29:244 - ^
01:34:109 - ^
01:37:149 - ^
01:41:406 - ^
02:19:578 - add a note here for the drums (they are pretty silent but they start here)
02:39:443 - flute (?) here
03:09:988 - add notes for that new synth thing here (although it's kinda a constant 1/2 layer you should still give more attention to some parts at the beginning of that section)
03:10:838 - ^
03:11:246 - ^
03:12:062 - ^
03:12:470 - ^

[8k somethingtude]

SPOILER

00:28:787 (28787|3,28990|4,29193|5) - same as New World
00:48:855 (48855|4) - same as New World
01:34:312 - same as 6k Sadness
actually everything from 6k sadness applies to that diff, so you might want to apply the suggestions you did in 6k sadness here too
01:50:755 - add a note here for a bit more of impact? do it for New World too.
03:46:367 - someone might complain about that repeating pattern eventually, it felt more natural in 6k for some reason, i believe it's because 4 wasn't used here at all. (just a few times)

Last edited by spoonguy 2014-11-16T17:46:01+00:00, edited 5 times in total.

ljqandylee

Former osu!mania 7K Champion: 2016

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ljqandylee 2014-11-15T05:12:46+00:00

Nice song~ /o/

Key reference for following suggestions: 1|2|3|4|5|6

[6K Lv.5 Sadness]

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01:31:068 - No need for 2 notes here, if it is intended, I suggest you also add 1 note at 01:30:663 which makes it more reasonable.
01:34:312 ~ 01:35:528 - tweedle sound is continuous here, it wound be better if notes are also continuous, and the LN for vocal ends at 01:35:528.
01:50:138 (110138|5) - Sound ends at 01:50:447, 1/4 shorter than you supposed. and 01:50:549 has another drum sound, may add 1 note.
01:50:960 (110960|2,111577|3) - Sound ends at 01:52:193.
01:55:070 (115070|2) - Same as above.
01:58:358 (118358|2,118768|1) - This time the sound ends at 01:59:385, but it's a bit strange if you extend both LN, so I suggest to shorten 01:58:358 (118358|2) to 01:58:768 and then extend the other one to 01:59:385.
02:28:092 (148092|3) - This LN a bit weird, vocal ends at 02:29:511, also you may just extend to 02:29:308.
02:46:396 ~ 02:47:235 - Totally unsnapped to the song, change BPM to 148 and delete x1.15 inherited points.
02:53:810 (173810|2) - Sound ends at 02:54:118.
04:12:580 (252580|5) - Sound ends at 04:12:888.
04:32:325 (272325|5) - Sound ends at 04:32:633.

[Tidek's 6K Lv. 10 Grief Seed]

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01:41:001 - Different from 01:39:785, here the tweedle sound exists, better to add a note.
01:42:217 - ^
01:50:447 - Sound ends here.
01:55:378 - ^
01:59:385 - ^, but if you extend all LNs that will be too dull, so I give a scheme here for reference:
SPOILER
02:00:823 (120823|5,121029|4,121234|3) - Same problem as above, sound ends at 02:02:056 (exactly 02:01:953 but meh), suggest to rearrange these LNs.
02:29:916 (149916|3) - No obvious drum sound here, suggest to remove this note.
03:54:475 (234475|4,234678|4) - PR is obviously different, suggest move the second one to 6.
04:07:957 - Sound ends here.
04:12:888 - ^
04:32:633 - ^

Also applys to 8K diffs, bcz I'm lazy the patterns flow are quite similar XD
Good luck~

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-11-15T18:49:40+00:00

Dayum, that's one hell of a modding session to deal with. Here we go!

richardfeder wrote:
8K
sp 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
I see you apply some mod to 8K Lv.5 that's awesome. I will focus on Lv.10 and see if my suggestion can help you a bit
00:15:612 (15612|4) - ? Dayum, didn't notice that, deleted

00:22:504 (22504|2) - add a note? Kinda waited for someone to point that out, done, on 4th tho to avoid confusion with 00:21:490 (21490|3,21693|2,21895|3) -

01:12:217 (72217|2) - move to 5 Sound good
01:12:420 (72420|4,72622|6,72825|3,72825|1) - 1 3 57 Looks better, done

01:14:244 (74244|5) - add a note yes there is sound I know that there is a small sound, but I like the flow of that part with those small breaks

01:25:798 - I recommend you to do this but just my opinion tho http://puu.sh/cRc33/11173a03bf.jpg Symmetry plays better imho, keeping

01:35:528 (95528|6) - you may want to double this I count hold end as another note, also I have nowhere to put this note without making it awkward to play

01:42:420 (102420|6) - quite awk Deleted, damn the drumroll

01:50:960 (110960|3,111371|4,111577|5) - end too early Oh damn, nice catch!

01:56:303 (116303|4) - ?? There is a piano, almost inaudible, but there is

02:04:522 (124522|0) - delete? Yeah, thought that there is a chime

02:10:862 (130862|1) - delete Done

02:15:524 (135524|6) - awk Changed LN into single note, and deleted 02:15:727 (135727|1) -
02:25:254 (145254|2) - ^ Changed LN into normal note

02:42:484 (162484|7) - delete Done

03:04:084 (184084|0) - add a sp? Sure, kinda missed that one

03:16:342 (196342|5,196545|2,196748|4,196950|3) - actually notes like these should also be doubles. 03:17:559 (197559|5,197761|4) - these singles are valid since piano stops here. In case of 03:16:342 (196342|5,196545|2,196748|4,196950|3) - , not really imo :p Yeah, I think so too (my poor consistency orz)

03:24:476 (204476|2,204476|3,204679|5,204679|1,204679|6) - ? I think 03:24:476 (204476|2,204476|3) - should be triple 03:24:679 (204679|5,204679|1,204679|6) - double Damn me, done

03:27:110 (207110|3) - add a note Done

03:36:840 (216840|2) - ^ Added on diffrent column

03:39:272 (219272|2) - ^ ^

04:03:458 (243458|5,246005|7,246415|6) - pain(X I know huehuehuehue, not changing it atm, will try to rearrange if someone else points it out

OK for me overall. Nice!
Tidek's style is kinda..out of my understanding(maybe we map in different style?) so I decided not to touch his diff much. Good luck on this set! Also plz grab a star mania need more 8K!

Thanks a lot, that mod was awesome! <3

Paulmrm wrote:
apparently i'm one of the only people who actually plays 6k [*]
so yeah les go

Also one thing before I start: I know you're not following PR here. But in an easy song as this one it's pretty important to at least express the change of pitch. By that I mean you shouldn't jack when the pitch actually changes, it just feels weird to play something like that. Yeah, that's kinda what I want from modders. I don't want to force PR into my patterns, but I also want to avoid any weird pattern where PR is obvious

[Tidek's 6k Lv.10 something seed]
Tidek said he'll handle it tonight

[6k Lv.5 somethingness]
SPOILER
00:17:841 (17841|1) - please don't jack here, even the vocals change pitch ;--; Not following vocals here, and instruments don't seem to change pitch that much, will consider in future
00:28:787 (28787|2,28990|3,29193|4) - it feels really weird to have this pattern be the same as the earlier one considering they are expressing different melodies, just move this somewhere else, maybe ctrl+h it kk done the ctrl+h
00:48:855 (48855|2) - move to 4 so it doesn't feel connected to either 00:48:247 (48247|1,48449|0,48652|1) - or the stair later Actually it feels even more connected now

01:34:312 - imo feels strange to have the guitar layer stop here just for the sake of the "epic cool LN hold it till it ends". continue mapping those 1/2s c: Yes ma'am
02:23:632 (143632|3,144038|3,144443|3,144849|3,145254|3) - that pattern although completely ok to play doesn't feel very fun, try to break that anchor in the 4th column `kay

02:31:538 - iirc the lvl.10 diff didn't even include 1/4s in any way, are you sure it's a good idea to use them in the lower diff for not very noticeable sounds? Adds some flavour to the map imo, idk about Tidek's diff, but included them in 8k lv 10 as well

02:41:268 - add a note here
02:42:078 - ^
02:43:700 - ^
02:44:511 - ^
03:34:002 - ^ All done
04:07:237 - ^ I wanted to, but I don't know where to put it without making it terribly awkward ;;

Going to mod 8k soon when i'm not busy training for the tourney or doing school stuff x_x
Should be able to finish it this weekend though.

<3 Looking forward to the rest!

ljqandylee wrote:
Nice song~ /o/ o/

Key reference for following suggestions: 1|2|3|4|5|6

[6K Lv.5 Sadness]

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01:31:068 - No need for 2 notes here, if it is intended, I suggest you also add 1 note at 01:30:663 which makes it more reasonable. 2nd note for guitar, forgot to add it on 01:31:271 - tho
01:34:312 ~ 01:35:528 - tweedle sound is continuous here, it wound be better if notes are also continuous, and the LN for vocal ends at 01:35:528. Already fixed that from Paul's mod, and LN is for the instrument, not the vocal, thus it stays like it is
01:50:138 (110138|5) - Sound ends at 01:50:447, 1/4 shorter than you supposed. and 01:50:549 has another drum sound, may add 1 note. Pettern seems a bit more meh now, but changed
01:50:960 (110960|2,111577|3) - Sound ends at 01:52:193. Changed
01:55:070 (115070|2) - Same as above. That's what he said
01:58:358 (118358|2,118768|1) - This time the sound ends at 01:59:385, but it's a bit strange if you extend both LN, so I suggest to shorten 01:58:358 (118358|2) to 01:58:768 and then extend the other one to 01:59:385. Gotcha
02:28:092 (148092|3) - This LN a bit weird, vocal ends at 02:29:511, also you may just extend to 02:29:308. Flute ends here
02:46:396 ~ 02:47:235 - Totally unsnapped to the song, change BPM to 148 and delete x1.15 inherited points. Arrgghhhhhh dat timing is tricky, done
02:53:810 (173810|2) - Sound ends at 02:54:118. kkkkkkkkk
04:12:580 (252580|5) - Sound ends at 04:12:888. kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
04:32:325 (272325|5) - Sound ends at 04:32:633. kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[Tidek's 6K Lv. 10 Grief Seed]
Tidek should reply tonight
Also applys to 8K diffs, bcz I'm lazy ~~I know that feeling~~ the patterns flow are quite similar XD
Good luck~

Thanks a whole lot to all of you! Massive update incoming huehueheuheu

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-11-16T18:48:53+00:00

<######################### aka 2nd reply to Paul's mod

Paulmrm wrote:
[8k new something]
|S|1|2|3|4|5|6|7
SPOILER
00:19:058 (19058|3,19260|4,19463|5) - change this pattern so it's not the same as 00:18:247 (18247|3,18449|4,18652|5) - k
00:28:787 (28787|3,28990|4,29193|5) - ^ same in relation to 00:27:977 (27977|3,28179|4,28382|5) - k

00:48:855 (48855|4) - move this note to 1 to disconnect it from the patterns earlier and later to it. I guess doing it that way should actually disconnect them, and if does connect to a pattern, it'll connect to 00:49:058 - which i guess isn't a really bad thing Moved to 6 instead

03:33:597 - missing note here k

04:05:232 - feels like you've just copy pasted these choruses. there is indeed a change in density and pattern from the first to the second, but from the second to the third it feels like nothing has changed, not even the end of the chorus.
What I'd do is keep 04:05:232 - as it is and change something in 04:25:750 - . Maybe add more LNs. I believe doing it that way adds a bit more "sauce" to the map. Your call here though.
(btw the same thing can be said about 6k sadness and 8k solitude, they are lower diffs tho so i don't believe you should add to the density of them, maybe rearrange things a bit?)
Like I said on skype already, I have no idea how to rearrange things because those parts are almost identical, will try to meddle with it

adding suggestions:
01:09:379 - add a note here Same as 01:08:974 - so no change
01:13:839 - ^ Done
01:27:420 - if you are being technical add a note here and 01:27:622 - here for the flute. ~~First nope, because it'd be awkward with LN end~~ aaarrgghhhh fuck it, added, Second done
01:29:244 - ^ Actually it's 1/6 later added
01:34:109 - ^ Quite awkward with those 2 LN's starting, will add if more pepole complain
01:37:149 - ^ k
01:41:406 - ^ Yeah, noticed that flute
02:19:578 - add a note here for the drums (they are pretty silent but they start here) I belive ya that there is sound, but it feels weird cuz reasons
02:39:443 - flute (?) here y
03:09:988 - add notes for that new synth thing here (although it's kinda a constant 1/2 layer you should still give more attention to some parts at the beginning of that section) Not sure about that one, it would create nice pattern but it's barerly audible, will wait for others to pick it up
You missed 03:10:430 -
03:10:838 - ^ k
03:11:246 - ^ Guitar mapped here and I don't hear any changes in synth
03:12:062 - ^ k
03:12:470 - ^ 1/8 grace instead of double

[8k somethingtude]
SPOILER
00:28:787 (28787|3,28990|4,29193|5) - same as New World I was sure that someone pointed it out already. Nvm fixed
00:48:855 (48855|4) - same as New World Also same as 6k lv.5 and same pattern as there, lel
01:34:312 - same as 6k Sadness
actually everything from 6k sadness applies to that diff, so you might want to apply the suggestions you did in 6k sadness here too kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
01:50:755 - add a note here for a bit more of impact? do it for New World too. k
03:46:367 - someone might complain about that repeating pattern eventually, it felt more natural in 6k for some reason, i believe it's because 4 wasn't used here at all. (just a few times) p/3464456 p/3469242 STILL NOT CHANGING IT, I really want to keep this repetition since sound is same as 03:19:586 - (the 357 stair) with a bit of variation

Danks m8, upd8

Tidek

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Tidek 2014-11-16T20:25:53+00:00

ljqandylee wrote:
Nice song~ /o/

Key reference for following suggestions: 1|2|3|4|5|6

[Tidek's 6K Lv. 10 Grief Seed]
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01:41:001 - Different from 01:39:785, here the tweedle sound exists, better to add a note.
01:42:217 - ^
01:50:447 - Sound ends here.
01:55:378 - ^
01:59:385 - ^, but if you extend all LNs that will be too dull, so I give a scheme here for reference:
SPOILER
02:00:823 (120823|5,121029|4,121234|3) - Same problem as above, sound ends at 02:02:056 (exactly 02:01:953 but meh), suggest to rearrange these LNs.
02:29:916 (149916|3) - No obvious drum sound here, suggest to remove this note. its jack so its easy to read, will stay with current pattern atm
03:54:475 (234475|4,234678|4) - PR is obviously different, suggest move the second one to 6.
04:07:957 - Sound ends here.
04:12:888 - ^
04:32:633 - ^
Also applys to 8K diffs, bcz I'm lazy the patterns flow are quite similar XD
Good luck~

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Paulmrm wrote:
apparently i'm one of the only people who actually plays 6k
so yeah les go

Also one thing before I start: I know you're not following PR here. But in an easy song as this one it's pretty important to at least express the change of pitch. By that I mean you shouldn't jack when the pitch actually changes, it just feels weird to play something like that.

[Tidek's 6k Lv.10 something seed]
1|2|3|4|5|6
SPOILER
00:15:206 - I'm not going to convince you to change some like that one because... although it feels weird it kinda fits. I still reco
00:15:612 - Missing a note here.
00:48:855 (48855|5) - It'd be better if that note wasn't part of the stair pattern, since it comes from a sound that's different from the rest of the notes in the stair. Move to 1? 2? 3?
01:16:474 - add a note here pls.

01:31:068 - if you want to be technical, you should start using 2 note chords here for this pattern instead of 01:30:663 - I was following vocal here
02:46:396 (166396|3,166630|2,166864|5,167099|0) - you should find a way to differ these notes from these: 02:45:322 (165322|3,165524|2) - while playing it feels like they are expressing the same thing, you could use lns for the voice pattern or change the notes around in the second pattern, so they don't start the same way as the first one

03:33:597 - note missing here its pretty quiet sound, so no change
03:34:002 - ^
03:43:326 - ^
03:43:732 - ^ denied all. too quiet sounds for me

03:54:678 (234678|4) - jack feels pretty weird here due to the change in pr in the main melody

04:20:594 - missing note here
04:23:059 - ^

04:43:240 - you might want to express the notes in another way. it's probably just me but it feels a bit too empty to have them as just that :c, do grace notes maybe?

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Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-11-17T07:10:44+00:00

You forgot to change BPM, did that for ya
Updated

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-11-21T18:03:33+00:00

FC'able ez

Agka

680 posts

Joined January 2009

Agka 2014-12-02T22:00:46+00:00

[General]
Audio, BG, video and sounds seem within parameters, though soft-hitnormal is a bit redundant, since you can just apply volume to whatever sounds.
03:12:266 - New uninherited TP here to fix the metronome's measure start
03:15:532 - Move TP from here to here 03:15:937 -
00:10:950 - I recommend you to not map before this point; else you're adding 10 seconds of wait per replay. SERIOUSLY. IT'S ANNOYING.

[8K Lv. 10 New World]
02:04:522 - You missed a chime here.
Normalize your speed.

[Tidek's 6k]
00:19:058 (19058|5,19260|5,19463|0) - 661 -> 246
00:43:382 (43382|2,43585|2,43787|3) - ^
00:47:436 (47436|0,47436|1) - To 3-chord for emphasis. The hitsound alone shouldn't be it.
03:13:287 (193287|1,193287|0,193491|5,193491|4,193695|3,193695|2,193899|0,193899|1,194103|4,194103|5,194307|2,194307|3,194511|1,194511|0) -
Make a bit less dense. It's too dense for what the song is emphasizing, that is the piano.
Normalize your speed.

[8K Lv. 5 Solitude]
03:23:259 (203259|3,203463|5,203665|7) - The correct PR pattern is 846. Applies for the section.
03:40:691 (220691|5,220894|4,221097|5) - 656 -> 642
03:44:745 (224745|3,224948|2,225151|1) - 432 -> 234

[6K Lv.5 Sadness]
03:02:029 (182029|5,182029|2,182235|1,182440|0) - Make these double [36][25][41]
03:03:262 (183262|0,183262|3,183467|4,183673|5) - And these too. That way you can keep the emphasis from the previous ones.
03:04:495 - Note at 6 to finalize the previous section
03:19:586 (199586|1,199790|3,199994|5) - 624 for PR
04:20:799 (260799|5,260799|2,261005|1,261210|0) - Doubles to preserve emphasis.
04:22:032 (262032|3,262032|0,262237|4,262443|5) - Doubles.
04:23:265 - Note at 6 to finalize verse again.
04:40:586 (280586|5,280586|2,280800|1,281014|0) - Again doubles.
04:43:240 (283240|5,283440|3,283708|1) - Doubles at 2, 3, and 1 at the start point of each long note to emphasize bells.

Welp.

- Yuuto -

970 posts

Joined September 2013

- Yuuto - 2014-12-03T11:08:57+00:00

Hello .

Coloumns :
6K 1 - 6
7+1K = 1 - 8

[General]
Clean

[6K Lv.5 Sadness]

00:49:868 (49868|1) - try to move this to 5
01:07:352 (67352|5) - has no sound?
01:10:595 (70595|3) - move to 5?
01:52:193 - should be 2 noted. since the sound is similar to 01:50:960 (110960|0,110960|3)
02:07:720 - add note to 3 or 4?
02:50:933 - add note , the reason is same as the last one
04:09:703 - ^

[Tidek's 6K Lv.10 Grief Speed]

00:52:706 - add note to 4

01:39:987 - add note
or
01:43:231 (103231|0) - delete

01:42:417 - ^
01:53:426 - add note
02:07:720 - add note to 4
02:44:714 - add note
02:49:700 - strong beat, add note
02:54:632 - add note
04:40:062 (280062|4,280167|3) - delete instead add note to 04:39:747

[8K Lv.5 Solitude]

01:20:933 - delete one of them?
03:14:919 (194919|1) - move to 4
00:46:828 (46828|4) - move to 2
01:13:231 (73231|2) - ^

[8K Lv. 10 New World]

03:41:299 (221299|4) - this part is good to make a jack try to move this to 4.
04:28:215 (268215|0,268215|6,268215|2) - 3notes, but the previous parts are 1/2 notes. try to delete one of them.

That is all, good luck >w<b

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-12-03T12:54:23+00:00

Agka wrote:
[General]
Audio, BG, video and sounds seem within parameters, though soft-hitnormal is a bit redundant, since you can just apply volume to whatever sounds. Explained on skype, probably will adjust volumes anyway, but not now
03:12:266 - New uninherited TP here to fix the metronome's measure start
03:15:532 - Move TP from here to here 03:15:937 - Both fixed
00:10:950 - I recommend you to not map before this point; else you're adding 10 seconds of wait per replay. SERIOUSLY. IT'S ANNOYING. There goes my "Hey, this should be unique and cool, right?" thing. Removed on lv.5's will delete on lv.10 if anyone else complains. Keeping 00:09:227 - on all diffs at all costs tho, this sound is too loud for me to leave it unmapped and can serve as note to hit and start concentrating on map. Kind of a wake up call.

[8K Lv. 10 New World]
02:04:522 - You missed a chime here. Chime is to low on volume for me so I skipped it and added smaller chime hs on LN
Normalize your speed. Not completely, but done

[Tidek's 6k]
00:19:058 (19058|5,19260|5,19463|0) - 661 -> 246
00:43:382 (43382|2,43585|2,43787|3) - ^
00:47:436 (47436|0,47436|1) - To 3-chord for emphasis. The hitsound alone shouldn't be it.
03:13:287 (193287|1,193287|0,193491|5,193491|4,193695|3,193695|2,193899|0,193899|1,194103|4,194103|5,194307|2,194307|3,194511|1,194511|0) -
Make a bit less dense. It's too dense for what the song is emphasizing, that is the piano.
Normalize your speed. Done for him

[8K Lv. 5 Solitude]
03:23:259 (203259|3,203463|5,203665|7) - The correct PR pattern is 846. Applies for the section. Also better transition from 03:18:977 (198977|1,199180|3,199383|5) -, Neat
03:40:691 (220691|5,220894|4,221097|5) - 656 -> 642 Fixed
03:44:745 (224745|3,224948|2,225151|1) - 432 -> 234 Basically a Ctrl+G, I'm fine with that

[6K Lv.5 Sadness]
03:02:029 (182029|5,182029|2,182235|1,182440|0) - Make these double [36][25][41] I wasn't sure if it won't be a bit hard for NM diff, thus I left it like that, but it's technically correct so I'll fix it
03:03:262 (183262|0,183262|3,183467|4,183673|5) - And these too. That way you can keep the emphasis from the previous ones. ^
03:04:495 - Note at 6 to finalize the previous section That makes it a little confusing with 03:04:942 (184942|5) - which is what I want to avoid, no change
03:19:586 (199586|1,199790|3,199994|5) - 624 for PR Done
04:20:799 (260799|5,260799|2,261005|1,261210|0) - Doubles to preserve emphasis. Same as on 03:02:029
04:22:032 (262032|3,262032|0,262237|4,262443|5) - Doubles. Same
04:23:265 - Note at 6 to finalize verse again. I can add here because there is no LN on this lane
04:40:586 (280586|5,280586|2,280800|1,281014|0) - Again doubles. Yup, again fixed
04:43:240 (283240|5,283440|3,283708|1) - Doubles at 2, 3, and 1 at the start point of each long note to emphasize bells. I was looking for a way to emphasize them before and this seemed a lil bit off, but let's try it out

Welp.

Thanks a lot! Now onto the second one

Yuutosan wrote:
Hello .

Coloumns :
6K 1 - 6
7+1K = 1 - 8

[General]
Clean

[6K Lv.5 Sadness]

00:49:868 (49868|1) - try to move this to 5 Kinda breakes the pattern and makes second lane totally empty for 3,5 seconds and I don't really want that
01:07:352 (67352|5) - has no sound? String here, check at 25%
01:10:595 (70595|3) - move to 5? Ctrl+G'ed 01:10:190 (70190|4,70595|3) - instead, follows pitch a bit better and doesn't make 4th column empty
01:52:193 - should be 2 noted. since the sound is similar to 01:50:960 (110960|0,110960|3) There's that crash or idk what that is on start of LN, which does not appear on it's end. Also it'd be confusing to play imo
02:07:720 - add note to 3 or 4? I'm aware that there is a triplet drum (starting at 02:07:617 - ) but I avoided that on purpose. Sudden 1/4 here would feel quite weird
02:50:933 - add note , the reason is same as the last one I agree, but it's so cramped here that I leaved it like it is. Pressing 1+6 and releasing 3+5 at the same time is overkill on NM imho
04:09:703 - ^ Keeping consistency with other denials

For the LN ends adds: you can count LN releases into sounds and you'll get consistency

[Tidek's 6K Lv.10 Grief Speed]
LMAO

00:52:706 - add note to 4

01:39:987 - add note
or
01:43:231 (103231|0) - delete
01:42:417 - ^
01:53:426 - add note
02:07:720 - add note to 4
02:44:714 - add note
02:49:700 - strong beat, add note
02:54:632 - add note
04:40:062 (280062|4,280167|3) - delete instead add note to 04:39:747

[8K Lv.5 Solitude]

01:20:933 - delete one of them? Accenting flute with second note
03:14:919 (194919|1) - move to 4 Done
00:46:828 (46828|4) - move to 2 Moved to 5th and moved 00:47:233 (47233|4) - to 3 instead
01:13:231 (73231|2) - ^ I see what you mean, but I accent guitar with note and chime with hitsound only, so keeping pattern as it is

[8K Lv. 10 New World]

03:41:299 (221299|4) - this part is good to make a jack try to move this to 4. Drums. I got'cha
04:28:215 (268215|0,268215|6,268215|2) - 3notes, but the previous parts are 1/2 notes. try to delete one of them. Deleted from 3rd

That is all, good luck >w<b

Thanks! Even if I rejected most of your mod it was still very helpful and I can see your intentions very clearly, this was a good mod =w=)b

Updated~

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Kamikaze 2014-12-04T18:38:14+00:00

Self mod: Added both inherieted and uninherieted timing point on 02:08:806 - notes were 1/8 late, snapped them at the right spots and fixed uninherieted timing points problem with lv.5's

Tidek

1,571 posts

Joined March 2011

Tidek 2014-12-04T21:51:54+00:00

Applied almost all

SPOILER

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Kamikaze

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Kamikaze 2014-12-04T22:09:05+00:00

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Hellgert

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Hellgert 2014-12-15T10:01:40+00:00

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quick mod

[6K Lv. 5 Sadness]
01:16:474 - add a note here
01:18:906 - ^
01:23:771 - ^
02:18:970 - move to 2
i suggest change the level to 7 since the double and ln with note are there

[8K Lv. 10 New World]
00:00:713 (713|0) - i really suggest to remove it,this is unnecessary here,it was too early for this
00:09:227 (9227|4) - and this too
00:09:227 (9227|4) - 00:09:227 (9227|4) - suggest a stream here and for furthur too

cant mod it too much,sorry

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