Its okay, I forgive you :$
Thanks! Will get to your map asap!Loneight wrote:
Hi o/
Request from In-game.that's all[general]
I feel 02:40:834 - ~ 02:42:526 - notes delay
It does feels a bit late... luckily I only put sliders on these parts, lol (okno, will get more opinions)- add "Century Child" which is the song from to tag
Okay[Easy]
just think, maybe you used copying in this diff (run, anyway, solid diff
- Useless green line:
green lineDeleted, but its also kinda useless to delete it, since it should be a copy paste form insane diff03:36:021 -- 00:37:349 (4,1) - swap NC to make a tips where is 00:38:618 (1) -
Okay- 02:38:297 (3) - just suggestion, how about make it like this? just feel more suitable for the vocal or flow IMO, if you want, copy 02:37:451 (2) - , rotate 210° and move to 504|272
I like it more the way it is now- 02:53:944 (2) - did you miss a clap? I feel a little weird, there is same as 02:50:561 (2) - thus sound shouldn't be different, try to add a clap
Yes I did, thanks!- 03:41:731 (2,1) - swap NC to make there be like 03:48:497 (1,2) - . And 03:43:422 (2,1) - Same as here
- 04:12:179 (4) - NC, just think there is a new start for rhythm like 04:05:412 (1) -
All done
Ahahah I did, for some sections[Hard]
just think is too many streams for a Hard, anyway,
- try to OD+1, because Insane's OD is 7, make Hard's OD to 6 would be better for diff spread
I think OD is fine, even more considering the amounts of triples- about the AR, 7 maybe would make player confused to hit streams, try the AR 8, would be easier to read your streams
Used 7.3- 01:32:220 (3) - just feel it's unnecessary, try to remove it to emphasize the guitar like 01:33:806 (2,3) - ?
which is same as hereThe triples are precisely there to emphasize the guitar!01:35:603 (3) -
01:45:752 (5) -
01:47:444 (3) -
01:49:135 (3) -
01:50:827 (5) -- 01:54:527 (1,7) - swap NC, I think new rhythm is start at 01:55:162 - thus need to have a NC, if you fix this, 01:56:853 (1) - remove NC
- 02:20:747 (6) - make there get a NC to show the rhythm change
- 03:33:484 (2,2) - don't make it overlap, I worry player would be confused, separate them a little
- 03:52:091 (7) - NC it to be same as 04:05:624 (1) -
All done!it's make me Hard (run
Considering how hard the insanes are, this diff should be okay[Insane]
fine to me
- 02:07:531 (1,2) - the flow is very uncomfortable and there is a little hard to read because note is below the screen, I think ctrl+G would be better. 02:07:848 (3,4) - same as here, but reason is uncomfortable flow
Totally intentional- 02:49:292 (3,1) - swap NC to make a prompt for 02:49:715 (1) - . And 02:50:983 (5,1) - same as here
- 02:52:041 (4) - NC because there have jump immediately
All done- 03:20:163 (4) - how about ctrl+G? flow would be more smooth
I prefer it more the way it is now
good luck
thanks!Loneight wrote:
Hi o/
Request from In-game.that's all[Nwolf's Muzukashii]
changed
- 01:07:692 (101) - move it to 01:07:296 would be more suitable IMO, though will make it harder nice idea, changed. Also changed the beginning of the kiai to kat (same as Oni)
- 01:27:885 (185) - how about move to 01:27:462 - to follow the piano? yes
- 02:28:570 (32) - change to d to make 02:28:147 (29,30,31,32) - be adverse of 02:27:301 (25,26,27,28) - ? And 02:34:491 (59) - same as here prefer a kat to keep the rhythm consistent (kat on 2 / 4).
- 02:41:257 (25) - how about move it to 02:41:468 and change to k? feel a little weird when 02:41:468 is empty. And 02:42:103 (29) - same as here mapped slightly different
- 03:07:899 (17) - maybe change to k to follow the vocal
nothing to say~[Nwolf's Oni]
- 00:25:085 (99,101) - feel a little weird, how about ctrl+G to follow guitar? guitar is more obvious than other sounds. And 00:31:851 (145,146) - same as here want more emphasis on the big kat
- 02:28:781 (59) - I hear there is same as 02:35:548 (121) - , but different rhythm, try to change to k? pretty much the same reason as above, don is intentional
- 02:42:102 (41) - change to d? I think dkddk would be more suitable yes
- 03:59:491 (103) - change to k? but IDK how to explain...maybe would be suitable? might be easier to play, gonna consider this change for a future update
good luck
Thanks !Charles445 wrote:
[Shiro's Insane]
Sick jumps, I like that when the guitar goes BLAWWHH or something the spacing gets way bigger \o/ this diff is fun
02:20:535 - I see what you did there -> http://puu.sh/aQaDz.jpg Holy tails, someone noticed O_O
02:50:561 (7) - loooool dem guitars yo best slider !
02:54:578 (6,7) - Hard to tell when to start pressing keys again. Probably a good idea to end the repeat slider 2 repeats earlier, then make the first circle with a new combo at not touching the slider. -> http://puu.sh/aQamu.jpg I'm not quite sure about this, actually. The testplays I had hit this correctly, and it would feel weird to end early. I'll keep this in mind and change if other people point it out !
thanks for the mod !Loneight wrote:
[Shiro's Insane]
solid diff! nothing to say
- 00:05:199 (1) - Unsnapped slider, please fix it That should be fixed.
- 00:52:362 (4,5) - did they miss sound about Sampleset: Normal? No, I only used normal samplesets to lead into this part of the structure of the map. You can check the rest of the diff !
- 03:02:183 (10) - just suggestion, player would be confused for there, NC to show there has anti-jump I believe that the spacing change is significant enough for this not to be read as 1/4, especially after the whole part that has barely any.
- 03:45:318 (6) - NC it like 02:06:996 (1) - to make there easier to read? Good catch, but the new combo should be a bit before~
- 04:15:132 (1) - I think you should NC to prompt there is a big jump The rhythm gap makes this very readable !
Charles445 wrote:
Quick overview (Insane and Shiro's Insane)
This is not a mod, so no KD
Some hitsounds have a significant delay before their perceived beat (~10 ms for some). The smaller the better, try editing them with Audacity to fix any lead-in issues.
Should not be...? They are the same hitsounds that comes default
Many moments where the timing is 15 ms late. Try -7 to offset to try and even out the variance (-7, +8).
Fixed
[Insane]
00:05:209 (1,2) - Immediately confused by the rhythm. First there is no audio-leadin to the first circle so it's 100/50 galore, then 3/4 beat spacing to the next note which is inherently confusing (players are used to multiples of 1/2 and 1/4. 3/4 of a beat between notes has and always will be confusing.
Yes, thats why I mapped this part extra easy, making sure that the 1/4 beats lands on a slider, and so on.
00:40:732 - First part of the music with the vocalist and it's a break. There's no reason to have a break right where the song effectively begins its main part. Nobody is tired after 40 seconds either.
Dont know what to say... except that it is part of my style I guess, most of my maps have this kind of weird breaks, and I like it...
02:22:227 - Mid-stream inconsistencies with the sliders, for example, 02:22:227 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - is way different to 02:25:610 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - , even though they are equivalent things in the music. This makes the stream hard to read and comprehend since it changes randomly.
Hehhee it was on purpose
02:39:142 (1,2,3) - Unexpected 3/4. Very very easy to hit the 2 quickly, since it looks like it is going to be 1/2.
Me too at first, but after getting some testplays, I surprisingly saw some people do it perfectly on first try, thats why I kept it
02:47:600 (1,2,3,4) - It's even more frustrating to read when stacked.
I was hoping it would be easier to notice that its not that fast.
Slow part is good, nice 1/2 sliders for piano emphasis.
My intention!
03:41:308 (9,1,2,3) - These are really painful anti-flow jumps. This is pretty much the entire map, though. I guess it might be good jump practice for people.
Yeah...
03:45:114 (2,3,4,5,6) - These are really far away from each other, so they don't look like stream jumps.
They seemed fine on test plays..
04:03:721 (1) - Extremely unexpected that these have two repeats, as the rhythms implied by 04:02:664 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - before it suggest the last blue tick is skipped. Also the sliderstreamjumps caused by the holds are super mega painful.
Yeah, I can see that, many people got 100s because they left early. Ill consider changing this part if more people thinks so
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Gracias!Kenezz wrote:
Holi <3
[Easy]
- ¿Qué te parece OD+1 para equilibrar el setup song? A pesar de ser Easy me parece demasiado poco que ahora este ajustado en 1. (Sí, lo sé, no es una gran diferencia pero la dificultad no es tan fácil como otras que siguen ritmos mucho más simples).
Okay- 00:08:374 (1) - ¿Este circle no debería estar en el siguiente downbeat? La verdad es que yo consideraría más factible que lo ajustaras, igual el golpe de la pista está mas marcado en ese punto.
- 00:12:602 (1) - Lo mismo con este spinner, pues debería terminar 1/2 después. Como lo tienes ahora cuando llegas al final se siente como si terminara de una manera un poco abrupta, no sé tu pero yo siento que queda mejor si lo ajustas.
En mis tests, los novatos siempre pegaban antes de tiempo, probe asi, y si funciona mejor- 02:57:743 (2) - Quedaría mejor si inviertes el inicio con Ctrl+G.
Me gusta mas como esta ahora- 03:36:649 (1) - No es un gran problema pero la diferencia de espacio entre los sliders anteriores comparado con este circle y el anterior es bastante notable. IMO Quedaría mejor si mueves el circle hacia abajo siguiendo el eje central x. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1981447
Okay- El cambio en la dificultad en el kiai final con esos 1/2-1/2 no me termina de convencer pero en general me gustó mucho la diff
Pues, todas mis diffs son mas dificiles en el ultimo coro, asi que por consistencia, este diff deberia ser asi tambien (??
[Hard]
- 01:58:538 (8) - Acorde a tus patrones de nc debería empezar aquí y no en el siguiente circle.
Okay- Lo demás me parece bien, un poco difícil con todos esos tripletes pero la verdad quedan bastante bien
Elimine algunos triples ayer
[Insane]Es todo supongo, espero que te sirva de ayuda.
- 00:17:043 (3) - Creo que es más conveniente que inicies el new combo aquí y lo elimines del siguiente circle por la diferencia de tiempo de pausa y el cambio en la pista.
Okay- 02:44:210 (1,2,3,4) - Solo por mencionarlo el espacio entre estos sldiers y el patrón anterior es diferente 02:37:444 (1,2,3,4), me parece que puedes modificar un poco el primero para que sea igual a este o este para que sea igual al primero ya que es prácticamente el mismo sonido en la pista y voz.
Si bien es la misma, queria variarlo un poco al ser la ultima- 02:52:668 (4) - Acorde a los combos anteriores deberías empezar un nuevo aquí en vez de agregarlo al siguiente circle.
Okay- 03:01:760 (1) - Esta parte quedaría mejor si colocas este circle debajo de 03:01:126 (1) y eliminas el new combo aquí y lo agregas en el siguiente circle. Todo esto porque en este circle todavía continua el cambio de ritmo de 3/4-3/4 que hiciste con los dos anteriores. http://puu.sh/bfCM1/a055937a2b.png
No todos los anteriores, queria enfocar tambien los tambores, y por eso el NC, y la forma en que se mapeo como en 02:45:902 -- 04:13:863 (3) - New combo aquí también, aquí lo hiciste y es el mismo patrón 02:48:862 (1,2,1).
Okay
Llámame cuando hayas aplicado los cambios.
Thanks for the mod.Kenezz wrote:
[Shiro's Insane]
- 00:06:894 (5) - The start sounds too much awkward for me because track don't point nothing, also the sound of that drum is too loud. Maybe remove all hitsounding on this. Huh, there wasn't supposed to be any hitsound on that slider.
- 00:37:554 - This extended break is needless. k
- 01:03:562 (1) - This new combo is really necessary? The spacing and rhythm is same like the previous. removed
- 01:40:776 (1) - Same as before. I mean another combos with various spacements has no nc and this yes. ^
- 02:54:571 (6) - Maybe add new combo to split the current one that is a bit long. That wouldn't be consistent. D:
- 03:02:183 (10) - And here another due the anti-jump. Inconsistent as well. The anti-jumps are readable as is thanks to the massive spacing change and the fact that the 1/4 before had specific spacing which was different.
- I'm not fan of sick jumps but well.
thanks!qoot8123 wrote:
Hi hi :3
[General][ Muzukashii]
- Because this map doesn't have SB, so I recommend remove widescreen support done
- HP 5.1 and OD 4.8 ? Is that intense? if not, please set hp and od to 5 Yeah changed
- 02:39:981 (20) - move to 02:40:404 - and change to d to make a consistency with 02:35:752 (1,2,3,4) -
- 02:46:747 (48) - ^ changed both
[ Oni]pretty good taiko diffs
- HP 5 OD6 ? yep
- hmm.. i think change sv to 1.6 is enough for this kind of song due to all xxO disappearing now, changed
- 00:07:846 (14) - move to 00:07:951 - to make the same break with 00:06:894 (9) - and 00:06:048 (5) -
- 00:14:612 (38) - ^
- 00:50:875 (46) - remove finish ,big note on the end of stream which less than 8 long stream is not acceptable nowhttps://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3333986/
- 01:04:407 (104) - ^
- 01:41:622 (47) - ^
- 02:08:687 (162) - ^
- 03:40:032 (16) - ^
- 03:46:798 (49) - ^
- 03:50:181 (63) - ^ all gone
- 01:28:830 (263) - how about remove this note? not must but you can consider about this I decided to add this note because it didn't feel right to start on white tick all the time.
- 02:07:524 (154,155) - reverse these kd, the drum sound is similar with 02:07:207 (152,153) -
- 02:08:159 (158,159) - ^ changed both
- 02:29:937 (68) - change to d this kat may kill a lot of player changed
Okay, Ill leave it in your hand then xDDesperate-kun wrote:
Going to check it in a few days if isn't already ranked then.Pleeeeas I wanna do it
you must have around a full measure of recovery time here. It doesn't have to be exactly a full measure but 3/2 is definitely too low.Garven wrote:
General rule of thumb: Easy - Full measure (4 beats). Each difficulty increment up, halve it. So Normal would be about 2 beats, Hard 1 beat, Insane and up whatever. Depending on BPM of course. Kind of a baseline for that is around 160 bpm. New players need A LOT of time to recover from spinners because they're going to spin wildly and lose their cursor position.
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Thanks! WIll update after shiro's responseDesperate-kun wrote:
Sorry, but I have to pop your bubble for the following issues. These are must-fixes.Easy
03:36:860 (1) - The recovery time after this spinner is too low. Referring to this general consense:you must have around a full measure of recovery time here. It doesn't have to be exactly a full measure but 3/2 is definitely too low.Garven wrote:
General rule of thumb: Easy - Full measure (4 beats). Each difficulty increment up, halve it. So Normal would be about 2 beats, Hard 1 beat, Insane and up whatever. Depending on BPM of course. Kind of a baseline for that is around 160 bpm. New players need A LOT of time to recover from spinners because they're going to spin wildly and lose their cursor position.
03:45:318 (1) - Same applies here.
Since thats for a 160 BPM, for a 130 bpm it should be around 3/4, hopefully its good enough now (also it kinda screwed up the whole map's rhytm of 3/2 lol)
General
- Add tag: turunen, if you already include Tarja to the tags you can also add the surename.
Ok
Easy
- This Easy is really, really tough. Due to the big amount of 3/2-gaps and 1/2-stacks in the last section, a lower OD, like OD 1.5, is absolutely necessary.
Hehehe was hoping that starting the red ticks with sliders would make it ok (and apparently it is, basing on the few play tests i did) Anyways, I used to have it at 1 on your recommendation, then changed back to 2 on other modder's recommendation, and now its staying at 1.5 I guess.- 00:08:374 (1) - I don't know if I already mentioned it last time, but this would sound much better as an 1/2-slider. You also use 1/2-sliders at the end so I don't see the reason why you would avoid it here.
For reasons stated in the other mod. Also didnt do it here becauselast part was supposed to be a 'harder' part. But now changed to this way anyways, not a big deal.- 04:13:863 (1,2) - The movement is a bit too sharp for the easiest diff. Change it like this: http://puu.sh/bBsCv/af8745890f.jpg It would be easier to understand for the newbies.
Did a ctrl+g instead
Thanks for the mod !Desperate-kun wrote:
Shiro's Insane
- 00:32:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I remember this had some fancy hitsounding when I modded it - Now it sounds very empty o.o Please, change it back. I can't actually remember doing anything fancy for these o.O so I did something fancy for you :3
- 01:52:194 (2,3,4) - The regular spacing after the jump really breaks the flow for me. It goes in the same direction as the jump, so it just feels unnatural to stop moving like this. Maybe you could change it like this: http://puu.sh/bBy7P/1ce80b96ad.jpg didn't exactly do like the picture, but changed
- 01:53:040 (5,6,1) - Same. A nice solution would be to change the order of notes from the following square, so the pattern looks like this: http://puu.sh/bByb0/8ff4d3f35b.jpg applied my own fix, not quite like you did
- 02:45:902 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Sure you don't want to make this a perfect square? That wasn't actually meant to be a square, mostly because of the placement of other circles like 02:44:633 (3,5,6,8) - so that everything is visually consistent and looks good
Hopefully everything should be in order now!Desperate-kun wrote:
Re-Check~
[General]
You got two spaces after "turunen" in the tags of the Hard difficulty. OOps ! !
[Easy]
Try to reduce your NCing a bit (preferably make it consistent by placing NC every 2 measures). Variable NCing is not really recommended for Easy / Normal since it likely messes up the HP-drain. In sections like 03:53:564 it's okay because it helps understanding the rhythm, but even there for example 03:51:873 (1) this NC is not needed.
NCs reduced
00:39:245 (1) - I just realised this spinner might be a bit too short for a Normal. Consider to extend it until 00:40:725 ? Because the sound you are following fades out completely at this point.
Actually, it finishes right here, but okay, extended anyways.
[Hard]
00:12:603 (1) - Sorry that I forgot to tell it last time, but in the rule about recovery time was also included that it should be 1/1 after a spinner in Hard...
Deleted the notes after the spinner to keep consistency with easy
03:36:755 (1) - Sigh
Deleted note at 03:38:129 -
Since when these became a rule? Anyways, it seemed fine for me, and everyone else that modded this, I mean, I agree with the ones in easy diff, but the hard diff I think it was okay since I purposely gave an easy pattern after the spinners (stack) and only if I use a relatively long spinner, makes me feel like all these criteria I used to map these parts go to waste.
It's only a guideline, not a rule. It can be broken when there is really no other possibility, but here it could be fixed.Xanandra wrote:
Since when these became a rule? Anyways, it seemed fine for me, and everyone else that modded this, I mean, I agree with the ones in easy diff, but the hard diff I think it was okay since I purposely gave an easy pattern after the spinners (stack) and only if I use a relatively long spinner, makes me feel like all these criteria I used to map these parts go to waste.
Kenezz wrote:
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