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Nightwish - Dead to the World [Osu|Taiko]

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NoHitter
Hello. Sorry for the delay. The map is pretty good overall.

[Insane]
- 00:05:527 (2,3,4) - The placement of the notes after this slider is bothering me a bit. IMO a better way of placing them would be something similar to http://puu.sh/aJIpp/b236d4ae75.jpg
- 01:07:798 -> 01:11:181 - IMO this section isn't very intuitive. You have nearly constant 1/4s here, but after this part (when the music actually increases in intensity and build up) you omit them. The note density actually decreases up until 01:21:330. Shouldn't it be backwards where you build up from 1/2s to small 1/4s up until you start going for streams?
- 01:19:639 (3,4) - The flow of these two sliders are bad. Maybe make (4) face the other direction?
- 02:08:694 (1,2,3,4) - The decelerated spacing plays oddly IMO. (1,2) has more space than (2,3). Make them even?
- 02:10:386 (1,3) - IMO it would be better if (3) follows some aspect of (1) like shape. Maybe like this? http://puu.sh/aJIQD/1d45da450d.jpg
- 02:17:786 (6,7) - The flow is odd from (6) to (7). Use oval flow?
- 02:18:421 (7,1) - The flow here is pretty odd too. The direction it's going is to the left, but the next note is suddenly to the right instead.
- 02:22:227 -> 02:35:759 - I'm torn about those slider to slider 1/4 jumps mixed in with that 1/4 spacing between the notes...
- 02:36:605 (6,7) - Odd choice of flow here.
- 02:37:451 (1) - Shouldn't this face the other way? http://puu.sh/aJJ5d/21a3f8ce81.jpg
- 02:58:913 (10,1) - Is this spacing inconsistency intentional?
- 03:25:872 (1,2,3,4) - Once again, IMO the decelerated spacing looks odd.
- 03:49:765 (7) - I was half-expecting this to be kind of in the center of the slider's arc. http://puu.sh/aJJg6/22a30ce0c0.jpg
- 04:02:029 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Continue your stream here. Don't stop it. It plays oddly.
- 04:07:210 () - Same as above.
- 04:08:373 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Same as above.

[Shiro's Insane]
- 00:05:950 (2) - I think straightening this out would fit better since this came from a linear slider. http://puu.sh/aJJmg/e9ba53d3d4.jpg
- 00:22:125 (1) - Just my opinion but IMO it would look a bit better with a sharper angle, mirroring the shape of 00:21:279 (7,8,9).
- 00:23:817 (5) - I would place it a little bit down so it points perfectly to the next note. http://puu.sh/aJJvo/33c0854977.jpg
- 00:31:429 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1) - IMO a more distinguishable bend at 00:31:852 (11) - would look better. (Forming a "V") http://puu.sh/aJJCi/4a92252092.jpg
- 00:59:551 (5,7,8) - It doesn't quite perfectly blanket.
- 01:01:031 (1,2) - Same here. ^
- 01:01:877 (4,5) - Here too.
- 01:34:863 (1,2,3) - Is the slight curve up in the two notes here intentional? If not, move (2) down a bit to form a straight line.
- 01:53:047 (5,6,1) - is the inconsistent spacing here intentional?
- 02:09:328 (3,4) - IMO (4) would look better in the center of (3)'s arc. http://puu.sh/aJJSj/a51be68817.jpg
- 02:11:020 (9,10) - Same here.
- 02:35:759 (1,2,3) - I find it odd that (1) doubles back on itself when you're going for a pattern that clearly is going down. IMO a better placement would be: http://puu.sh/aJJWW/9fcf799907.jpg
- 03:14:454 (5,6) - Not blanketed properly.
- 04:01:606 (4,5,6,7,1) - Man, this spacing is evil :( Too far.
- 04:03:298 (4,5,6,7,1) - Also this one.

[Hard]
- Pretty good diff, but I kind of am concerned about the amount of 1/4 here.
- 00:33:332 (6,1,2,3) - I would form a better diamond shape here.
- 01:28:096 () - IMO there should be a note or start of slider here because the downbeat is really distinguishable.

[Sieg's Normal]
- Practically flawless :) Also I love those sliders and blankets!
- 00:05:209 (1,2) - My concern here is that you're following the offbeats here, but you make the first slider end at a white tick. It plays oddly and may confuse.
- 00:08:593 (2,3) - Same here.

[Easy]
- Those 1/2 notes concern me a bit, but other than that, good.
Topic Starter
Luvdic

NoHitter wrote:

Hello. Sorry for the delay. The map is pretty good overall.

[Insane]
- 00:05:527 (2,3,4) - The placement of the notes after this slider is bothering me a bit. IMO a better way of placing them would be something similar to http://puu.sh/aJIpp/b236d4ae75.jpg
Not quite sure why it would be bothersome...

- 01:07:798 -> 01:11:181 - IMO this section isn't very intuitive. You have nearly constant 1/4s here, but after this part (when the music actually increases in intensity and build up) you omit them. The note density actually decreases up until 01:21:330. Shouldn't it be backwards where you build up from 1/2s to small 1/4s up until you start going for streams?
Not sure how to explain this, but I guess this is how I listen to this song, what my mind emphasizes when I listen to it

- 01:19:639 (3,4) - The flow of these two sliders are bad. Maybe make (4) face the other direction?
Not quite sure it would flow bad, but then again, I prefer it this way.

- 02:08:694 (1,2,3,4) - The decelerated spacing plays oddly IMO. (1,2) has more space than (2,3). Make them even?
Intentional, but will wait for more opinions.

- 02:10:386 (1,3) - IMO it would be better if (3) follows some aspect of (1) like shape. Maybe like this? http://puu.sh/aJIQD/1d45da450d.jpg
I prefer it more to be this way

- 02:17:786 (6,7) - The flow is odd from (6) to (7). Use oval flow?
Did.... something a bit different, but then again, Im already well aware that I my 'flow' is different from others.

- 02:18:421 (7,1) - The flow here is pretty odd too. The direction it's going is to the left, but the next note is suddenly to the right instead.
I love having to break flows, so no changes here.

- 02:22:227 -> 02:35:759 - I'm torn about those slider to slider 1/4 jumps mixed in with that 1/4 spacing between the notes...
I love how this part turned out... so no changes for now...

- 02:36:605 (6,7) - Odd choice of flow here.

- 02:37:451 (1) - Shouldn't this face the other way? http://puu.sh/aJJ5d/21a3f8ce81.jpg
Nope, Im not trying to make that kind of shape

- 02:58:913 (10,1) - Is this spacing inconsistency intentional?
I guess... yes.

- 03:25:872 (1,2,3,4) - Once again, IMO the decelerated spacing looks odd.
I think its fine, just looks odd for you, but it looks perfect for me...

- 03:49:765 (7) - I was half-expecting this to be kind of in the center of the slider's arc. http://puu.sh/aJJg6/22a30ce0c0.jpg
Not necessarily...

- 04:02:029 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Continue your stream here. Don't stop it. It plays oddly.
- 04:07:210 () - Same as above.
- 04:08:373 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Same as above.
Wanted to make room for some jumps. Anyways, I think if I were to map this whole part as stream... it wouldnt be that fun

[Hard]
- Pretty good diff, but I kind of am concerned about the amount of 1/4 here.
- 00:33:332 (6,1,2,3) - I would form a better diamond shape here.
I tried to make it better, not sure if succeeded.
- 01:28:096 () - IMO there should be a note or start of slider here because the downbeat is really distinguishable.
Okay

[Easy]
- Those 1/2 notes concern me a bit, but other than that, good.
They are fine... in the test plays
Thanks for the mod!
Shiro

NoHitter wrote:

[Shiro's Insane]
- 00:05:950 (2) - I think straightening this out would fit better since this came from a linear slider. http://puu.sh/aJJmg/e9ba53d3d4.jpg I realized that the spacing was weird (0.9 then 1), I fixed that and the spacing.
- 00:22:125 (1) - Just my opinion but IMO it would look a bit better with a sharper angle, mirroring the shape of 00:21:279 (7,8,9). sure
- 00:23:817 (5) - I would place it a little bit down so it points perfectly to the next note. http://puu.sh/aJJvo/33c0854977.jpg done
- 00:31:429 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1) - IMO a more distinguishable bend at 00:31:852 (11) - would look better. (Forming a "V") I don't want to use that kind of sharp angle in a stream, especially not this early in the map. This part is supposed to be really soft on the aim, so I used a compressed stream to make this easy to play. A sharp curve would go against that.http://puu.sh/aJJCi/4a92252092.jpg
- 00:59:551 (5,7,8) - It doesn't quite perfectly blanket. Huh, I changed the placement of (7) a bit and forgot to update the blanket
- 01:01:031 (1,2) - Same here. ^
- 01:01:877 (4,5) - Here too. fixed both, meh
- 01:34:863 (1,2,3) - Is the slight curve up in the two notes here intentional? If not, move (2) down a bit to form a straight line. changed the whole pattern instead to be symmetric, and removed (2) which didn't play well
- 01:53:047 (5,6,1) - is the inconsistent spacing here intentional? Yes. (5,6) emphasizes the snare and the beat after it with the jump, but 01:53:470 (1) - doesn't need to be emphasized, hence the regular spacing.
- 02:09:328 (3,4) - IMO (4) would look better in the center of (3)'s arc. http://puu.sh/aJJSj/a51be68817.jpg Placing it there would ruin the spacing, and wouldn't play as well either because of the horrible angle between (3) and (4,5).
- 02:11:020 (9,10) - Same here. Spacing would be weird as hell. I stacked it with 02:10:809 (8) - instead.
- 02:35:759 (1,2,3) - I find it odd that (1) doubles back on itself when you're going for a pattern that clearly is going down. IMO a better placement would be: http://puu.sh/aJJWW/9fcf799907.jpg It's part of the pattern, like 02:42:526 (1,2,3) - I wanted to place it as if the normal drum (circle) turned into a snare (1/2 long, with the slider)
- 03:14:454 (5,6) - Not blanketed properly. fixed
- 04:01:606 (4,5,6,7,1) - Man, this spacing is evil :( Too far.
- 04:03:298 (4,5,6,7,1) - Also this one. I actually wanted to change them, because although they fit and are fun to play, they're a MASSIVE spike in difficulty, and take the focus away from the vocals. I used compressed streams instead to highlight the vocals better and give this little drum part less importance.
Thanks for the mod. No comment on the hitsounding or the flow, I'm sad.

http://puu.sh/aLguW/8e6b793367.osu
Sieg
Thanks for mods

sorry for being late ;_;

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372,26,201432,2,0,B|312:-6|256:26|256:26|200:58|144:26,1,240,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
94,309,203123,5,10,0:0:0:0:
94,309,203334,2,0,L|108:129,1,180,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
250,110,204391,1,2,0:0:0:0:
391,138,204815,2,0,L|401:19,2,120,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
382,209,205872,2,0,L|373:290,2,60,8|10|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,206506,12,4,209890,0:0:0:0:
387,332,216656,6,0,P|315:330|260:353,1,120,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
206,314,217290,2,0,P|119:347|16:336,1,180,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
55,199,218347,1,8,0:0:0:0:
130,76,218770,1,8,0:0:0:0:
268,36,219193,1,8,0:0:0:0:
411,42,219616,1,8,0:0:0:0:
315,149,220039,6,0,P|311:213|344:281,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,232,220673,2,0,P|292:291|350:338,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
403,347,221308,1,8,0:0:0:0:
429,205,221731,1,12,0:0:0:0:
446,62,222153,1,8,0:0:0:0:
446,62,222365,2,0,L|326:45,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
256,60,222999,2,0,B|257:89|257:89|254:105|254:105|256:135,1,60,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,156,223422,2,0,L|72:139,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,66,224057,2,0,L|151:76,1,60,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,215,224691,1,8,0:0:0:0:
87,357,225114,5,8,0:0:0:0:
157,345,225325,2,0,L|253:329,2,90,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
87,357,226171,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,368,226382,1,8,0:0:0:0:
110,258,226805,6,0,P|194:243|242:161,2,180,12|4|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
249,294,228497,2,0,P|301:229|311:134,2,180,12|4|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
111,250,230188,6,0,L|90:123,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
143,181,230822,2,0,P|154:101|248:48,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
290,180,231879,1,8,0:3:0:0:
290,180,232302,1,8,0:0:0:0:
431,153,232725,1,8,0:3:0:0:
431,153,233148,1,8,0:0:0:0:
287,144,233571,6,0,L|268:262,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
333,227,234205,2,0,P|312:310|352:388,2,150,4|2|12,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
401,100,235685,1,8,0:0:0:0:
401,100,235897,2,0,P|342:66|282:66,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
220,79,236531,2,0,P|179:85|144:74,1,60,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,78,236955,2,0,L|97:209,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
135,257,237588,2,0,L|141:328,1,60,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,230,238223,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,238646,12,4,239914,0:0:0:0:
467,113,240338,6,0,P|425:70|350:67,1,120,10|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,28,240972,2,0,P|366:80|352:186,1,180,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
341,315,242030,2,0,P|406:364|505:327,2,180,2|2|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
226,228,243721,6,0,P|168:214|103:253,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
43,245,244355,2,0,P|124:254|170:351,1,180,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
205,193,245412,2,0,P|137:173|95:134,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
12,27,246258,1,0,0:0:0:0:
12,27,246681,1,8,0:0:0:0:
155,43,247104,6,0,L|298:67,1,120,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,129,247739,2,0,L|96:104,1,120,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
51,95,248373,1,10,0:0:0:0:
128,216,248796,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,280,249218,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,207,249430,2,0,B|254:158|254:158|257:124|257:124|256:83,1,120,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,27,250064,2,0,P|328:36|372:21,1,60,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,41,250487,2,0,P|432:101|477:135,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,128,251122,2,0,L|410:205,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
417,331,251756,1,10,0:0:0:0:
285,272,252179,6,0,P|269:230|269:176,2,90,10|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
219,301,253025,2,0,P|170:269|93:285,1,120,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
34,152,253870,1,12,0:0:0:0:
303,93,255139,5,8,0:0:0:0:
303,93,255350,1,12,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Luvdic
Its okay, I forgive you :$
Charles445
Quick overview (Insane and Shiro's Insane)
This is not a mod, so no KD

Some hitsounds have a significant delay before their perceived beat (~10 ms for some). The smaller the better, try editing them with Audacity to fix any lead-in issues.
Many moments where the timing is 15 ms late. Try -7 to offset to try and even out the variance (-7, +8).

[Insane]
00:05:209 (1,2) - Immediately confused by the rhythm. First there is no audio-leadin to the first circle so it's 100/50 galore, then 3/4 beat spacing to the next note which is inherently confusing (players are used to multiples of 1/2 and 1/4. 3/4 of a beat between notes has and always will be confusing.
00:40:732 - First part of the music with the vocalist and it's a break. There's no reason to have a break right where the song effectively begins its main part. Nobody is tired after 40 seconds either.
02:22:227 - Mid-stream inconsistencies with the sliders, for example, 02:22:227 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - is way different to 02:25:610 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - , even though they are equivalent things in the music. This makes the stream hard to read and comprehend since it changes randomly.
02:39:142 (1,2,3) - Unexpected 3/4. Very very easy to hit the 2 quickly, since it looks like it is going to be 1/2.
02:47:600 (1,2,3,4) - It's even more frustrating to read when stacked.
Slow part is good, nice 1/2 sliders for piano emphasis.
03:41:308 (9,1,2,3) - These are really painful anti-flow jumps. This is pretty much the entire map, though. I guess it might be good jump practice for people.
03:45:114 (2,3,4,5,6) - These are really far away from each other, so they don't look like stream jumps.
04:03:721 (1) - Extremely unexpected that these have two repeats, as the rhythms implied by 04:02:664 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - before it suggest the last blue tick is skipped. Also the sliderstreamjumps caused by the holds are super mega painful.

[Shiro's Insane]
Sick jumps, I like that when the guitar goes BLAWWHH or something the spacing gets way bigger
02:20:535 - I see what you did there -> http://puu.sh/aQaDz.jpg
02:50:561 (7) - loooool dem guitars yo
02:54:578 (6,7) - Hard to tell when to start pressing keys again. Probably a good idea to end the repeat slider 2 repeats earlier, then make the first circle with a new combo at not touching the slider. -> http://puu.sh/aQamu.jpg
Loneight
Hi o/
Request from In-game.


  • Black is just suggestion, if you don't like , you can skip it
    Blue is recommended to fix
    red is unrankable issue

[general]

  1. I feel 02:40:834 - ~ 02:42:526 - notes delay
  2. add "Century Child" which is the song from to tag

[Easy]

  1. Useless green line:
    green line
    03:36:021 -
  2. 00:37:349 (4,1) - swap NC to make a tips where is 00:38:618 (1) -
  3. 02:38:297 (3) - just suggestion, how about make it like this? just feel more suitable for the vocal or flow IMO, if you want, copy 02:37:451 (2) - , rotate 210° and move to 504|272
  4. 02:53:944 (2) - did you miss a clap? I feel a little weird, there is same as 02:50:561 (2) - thus sound shouldn't be different, try to add a clap
  5. 03:41:731 (2,1) - swap NC to make there be like 03:48:497 (1,2) - . And 03:43:422 (2,1) - Same as here
  6. 04:12:179 (4) - NC, just think there is a new start for rhythm like 04:05:412 (1) -
just think, maybe you used copying in this diff (run, anyway, solid diff

[Sieg's Normal]

  1. Useless green line:
    green line
    00:39:147 -
    00:40:415 -
    01:38:140 -
    01:38:352 -

    04:14:399 -
    04:14:610 -
  2. 00:15:993 (4) - don't make it touch 00:14:513 (4) - , I worry newbie would be confused to read
  3. 00:21:068 (6,7) - feel a little weird, though it follows the snare, I still want to suggest how about make them like the picture to follow guitar? would be more suitable IMO. And 00:27:834 (6,7) - ...etc same as here
  4. 00:30:371 (4) - because it's overlap at rotation and its head is under 00:29:737 (3) - , would make newbie hard to read, try to NC it and change it like this ,
  5. 00:33:966 (3) - NC it would be easier to read its direction for newbie
  6. 01:47:128 (5) - I think you miss a clap at end. 01:52:414 (2) - Same as here
  7. 02:02:562 (2) - well, I can't find what it's following at blue line, and 02:02:985 - or 02:03:197 - is more obvious than 02:03:091 - thus I think 02:02:985 - or 02:03:197 should have hitsound instead of 02:03:091 - , try to change it like 01:59:179 (2,3) - 's rhythm
  8. 02:05:311 (6) - I feel there is a new rhythm start, try to NC it like 01:58:545 (1) - . And 02:18:843 (8) - , 03:43:422 (8) - , 04:10:487 (8) - same as here
  9. 02:31:319 (6) - because rotation is covered by 02:30:685 (5) - , try to move to 480|52, would be more easier to read for newbie
  10. 02:39:142 (6) - NC, feel it's same as 02:35:759 (1) - . And 02:42:526 (4,8) - same as here
well, I feel the Normal is harder than Normal+, rhythm is too concentrated IMO, please avoid useing concentrated notes in a Normal next time. Anyway, fun to play

[Nwolf's Muzukashii]

  1. 01:07:692 (101) - move it to 01:07:296 would be more suitable IMO, though will make it harder
  2. 01:27:885 (185) - how about move to 01:27:462 - to follow the piano?
  3. 02:28:570 (32) - change to d to make 02:28:147 (29,30,31,32) - be adverse of 02:27:301 (25,26,27,28) - ? And 02:34:491 (59) - same as here
  4. 02:41:257 (25) - how about move it to 02:41:468 and change to k? feel a little weird when 02:41:468 is empty. And 02:42:103 (29) - same as here
  5. 03:07:899 (17) - maybe change to k to follow the vocal
nothing to say~

[Hard]

  1. try to OD+1, because Insane's OD is 7, make Hard's OD to 6 would be better for diff spread
  2. about the AR, 7 maybe would make player confused to hit streams, try the AR 8, would be easier to read your streams
  3. 01:32:220 (3) - just feel it's unnecessary, try to remove it to emphasize the guitar like 01:33:806 (2,3) - ?
    which is same as here
    01:35:603 (3) -
    01:45:752 (5) -
    01:47:444 (3) -
    01:49:135 (3) -
    01:50:827 (5) -
  4. 01:54:527 (1,7) - swap NC, I think new rhythm is start at 01:55:162 - thus need to have a NC, if you fix this, 01:56:853 (1) - remove NC
  5. 02:20:747 (6) - make there get a NC to show the rhythm change
  6. 03:33:484 (2,2) - don't make it overlap, I worry player would be confused, separate them a little
  7. 03:52:091 (7) - NC it to be same as 04:05:624 (1) -
just think is too many streams for a Hard, anyway, it's make me Hard (run

[Shiro's Insane]

  1. 00:05:199 (1) - Unsnapped slider, please fix it
  2. 00:52:362 (4,5) - did they miss sound about Sampleset: Normal?
  3. 03:02:183 (10) - just suggestion, player would be confused for there, NC to show there has anti-jump
  4. 03:45:318 (6) - NC it like 02:06:996 (1) - to make there easier to read?
  5. 04:15:132 (1) - I think you should NC to prompt there is a big jump
solid diff! nothing to say

[Nwolf's Oni]

  1. 00:25:085 (99,101) - feel a little weird, how about ctrl+G to follow guitar? guitar is more obvious than other sounds. And 00:31:851 (145,146) - same as here
  2. 02:28:781 (59) - I hear there is same as 02:35:548 (121) - , but different rhythm, try to change to k?
  3. 02:42:102 (41) - change to d? I think dkddk would be more suitable
  4. 03:59:491 (103) - change to k? but IDK how to explain...maybe would be suitable?
~

[Insane]

  1. 02:07:531 (1,2) - the flow is very uncomfortable and there is a little hard to read because note is below the screen, I think ctrl+G would be better. 02:07:848 (3,4) - same as here, but reason is uncomfortable flow
  2. 02:49:292 (3,1) - swap NC to make a prompt for 02:49:715 (1) - . And 02:50:983 (5,1) - same as here
  3. 02:52:041 (4) - NC because there have jump immediately
  4. 03:20:163 (4) - how about ctrl+G? flow would be more smooth
fine to me
that's all
good luck
Topic Starter
Luvdic

Loneight wrote:

Hi o/
Request from In-game.

[general]

  1. I feel 02:40:834 - ~ 02:42:526 - notes delay
    It does feels a bit late... luckily I only put sliders on these parts, lol (okno, will get more opinions)
  2. add "Century Child" which is the song from to tag
    Okay

[Easy]

  1. Useless green line:
    green line
    03:36:021 -
    Deleted, but its also kinda useless to delete it, since it should be a copy paste form insane diff
  2. 00:37:349 (4,1) - swap NC to make a tips where is 00:38:618 (1) -
    Okay
  3. 02:38:297 (3) - just suggestion, how about make it like this? just feel more suitable for the vocal or flow IMO, if you want, copy 02:37:451 (2) - , rotate 210° and move to 504|272
    I like it more the way it is now
  4. 02:53:944 (2) - did you miss a clap? I feel a little weird, there is same as 02:50:561 (2) - thus sound shouldn't be different, try to add a clap
    Yes I did, thanks!
  5. 03:41:731 (2,1) - swap NC to make there be like 03:48:497 (1,2) - . And 03:43:422 (2,1) - Same as here
  6. 04:12:179 (4) - NC, just think there is a new start for rhythm like 04:05:412 (1) -
    All done
just think, maybe you used copying in this diff (run, anyway, solid diff
Ahahah I did, for some sections ;)


[Hard]

  1. try to OD+1, because Insane's OD is 7, make Hard's OD to 6 would be better for diff spread
    I think OD is fine, even more considering the amounts of triples
  2. about the AR, 7 maybe would make player confused to hit streams, try the AR 8, would be easier to read your streams
    Used 7.3
  3. 01:32:220 (3) - just feel it's unnecessary, try to remove it to emphasize the guitar like 01:33:806 (2,3) - ?
    which is same as here
    01:35:603 (3) -
    01:45:752 (5) -
    01:47:444 (3) -
    01:49:135 (3) -
    01:50:827 (5) -
    The triples are precisely there to emphasize the guitar!
  4. 01:54:527 (1,7) - swap NC, I think new rhythm is start at 01:55:162 - thus need to have a NC, if you fix this, 01:56:853 (1) - remove NC
  5. 02:20:747 (6) - make there get a NC to show the rhythm change
  6. 03:33:484 (2,2) - don't make it overlap, I worry player would be confused, separate them a little
  7. 03:52:091 (7) - NC it to be same as 04:05:624 (1) -
    All done!
just think is too many streams for a Hard, anyway, it's make me Hard (run
Considering how hard the insanes are, this diff should be okay

[Insane]

  1. 02:07:531 (1,2) - the flow is very uncomfortable and there is a little hard to read because note is below the screen, I think ctrl+G would be better. 02:07:848 (3,4) - same as here, but reason is uncomfortable flow

    Totally intentional
  2. 02:49:292 (3,1) - swap NC to make a prompt for 02:49:715 (1) - . And 02:50:983 (5,1) - same as here
  3. 02:52:041 (4) - NC because there have jump immediately
    All done
  4. 03:20:163 (4) - how about ctrl+G? flow would be more smooth
    I prefer it more the way it is now ;)
fine to me
that's all
good luck
Thanks! Will get to your map asap!

As for charles comments, Will get to it later, since it requires more complex answers, and right now dont have much time for it.

And as for other changes that applies for whole mapset, will wait for other's mappers changes before making them!
Nwolf

Loneight wrote:

Hi o/
Request from In-game.

[Nwolf's Muzukashii]

  1. 01:07:692 (101) - move it to 01:07:296 would be more suitable IMO, though will make it harder nice idea, changed. Also changed the beginning of the kiai to kat (same as Oni)
  2. 01:27:885 (185) - how about move to 01:27:462 - to follow the piano? yes
  3. 02:28:570 (32) - change to d to make 02:28:147 (29,30,31,32) - be adverse of 02:27:301 (25,26,27,28) - ? And 02:34:491 (59) - same as here prefer a kat to keep the rhythm consistent (kat on 2 / 4).
  4. 02:41:257 (25) - how about move it to 02:41:468 and change to k? feel a little weird when 02:41:468 is empty. And 02:42:103 (29) - same as here mapped slightly different
  5. 03:07:899 (17) - maybe change to k to follow the vocal
changed
nothing to say~

[Nwolf's Oni]

  1. 00:25:085 (99,101) - feel a little weird, how about ctrl+G to follow guitar? guitar is more obvious than other sounds. And 00:31:851 (145,146) - same as here want more emphasis on the big kat
  2. 02:28:781 (59) - I hear there is same as 02:35:548 (121) - , but different rhythm, try to change to k? pretty much the same reason as above, don is intentional
  3. 02:42:102 (41) - change to d? I think dkddk would be more suitable yes
  4. 03:59:491 (103) - change to k? but IDK how to explain...maybe would be suitable? might be easier to play, gonna consider this change for a future update
that's all
good luck
thanks!

http://puu.sh/aS1Hg/46a8548bf0.osu Muzu
http://puu.sh/aS1HG/e09cef1d4f.osu Oni
changed timing sections to fit the beginning volume in my diffs better btw
Shiro

Charles445 wrote:

[Shiro's Insane]
Sick jumps, I like that when the guitar goes BLAWWHH or something the spacing gets way bigger \o/ this diff is fun
02:20:535 - I see what you did there -> http://puu.sh/aQaDz.jpg Holy tails, someone noticed O_O
02:50:561 (7) - loooool dem guitars yo best slider !
02:54:578 (6,7) - Hard to tell when to start pressing keys again. Probably a good idea to end the repeat slider 2 repeats earlier, then make the first circle with a new combo at not touching the slider. -> http://puu.sh/aQamu.jpg I'm not quite sure about this, actually. The testplays I had hit this correctly, and it would feel weird to end early. I'll keep this in mind and change if other people point it out !
Thanks !

Loneight wrote:

[Shiro's Insane]

  1. 00:05:199 (1) - Unsnapped slider, please fix it That should be fixed.
  2. 00:52:362 (4,5) - did they miss sound about Sampleset: Normal? No, I only used normal samplesets to lead into this part of the structure of the map. You can check the rest of the diff !
  3. 03:02:183 (10) - just suggestion, player would be confused for there, NC to show there has anti-jump I believe that the spacing change is significant enough for this not to be read as 1/4, especially after the whole part that has barely any.
  4. 03:45:318 (6) - NC it like 02:06:996 (1) - to make there easier to read? Good catch, but the new combo should be a bit before~
  5. 04:15:132 (1) - I think you should NC to prompt there is a big jump The rhythm gap makes this very readable !
solid diff! nothing to say
thanks for the mod !

http://puu.sh/aTZsc/c7ffd15e5d.osu
Topic Starter
Luvdic

Charles445 wrote:

Quick overview (Insane and Shiro's Insane)
This is not a mod, so no KD

Some hitsounds have a significant delay before their perceived beat (~10 ms for some). The smaller the better, try editing them with Audacity to fix any lead-in issues.
Should not be...? They are the same hitsounds that comes default

Many moments where the timing is 15 ms late. Try -7 to offset to try and even out the variance (-7, +8).
Fixed

[Insane]
00:05:209 (1,2) - Immediately confused by the rhythm. First there is no audio-leadin to the first circle so it's 100/50 galore, then 3/4 beat spacing to the next note which is inherently confusing (players are used to multiples of 1/2 and 1/4. 3/4 of a beat between notes has and always will be confusing.
Yes, thats why I mapped this part extra easy, making sure that the 1/4 beats lands on a slider, and so on.

00:40:732 - First part of the music with the vocalist and it's a break. There's no reason to have a break right where the song effectively begins its main part. Nobody is tired after 40 seconds either.
Dont know what to say... except that it is part of my style I guess, most of my maps have this kind of weird breaks, and I like it...

02:22:227 - Mid-stream inconsistencies with the sliders, for example, 02:22:227 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - is way different to 02:25:610 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - , even though they are equivalent things in the music. This makes the stream hard to read and comprehend since it changes randomly.
Hehhee it was on purpose

02:39:142 (1,2,3) - Unexpected 3/4. Very very easy to hit the 2 quickly, since it looks like it is going to be 1/2.
Me too at first, but after getting some testplays, I surprisingly saw some people do it perfectly on first try, thats why I kept it

02:47:600 (1,2,3,4) - It's even more frustrating to read when stacked.
I was hoping it would be easier to notice that its not that fast.

Slow part is good, nice 1/2 sliders for piano emphasis.
My intention!

03:41:308 (9,1,2,3) - These are really painful anti-flow jumps. This is pretty much the entire map, though. I guess it might be good jump practice for people.
Yeah...

03:45:114 (2,3,4,5,6) - These are really far away from each other, so they don't look like stream jumps.
They seemed fine on test plays..

04:03:721 (1) - Extremely unexpected that these have two repeats, as the rhythms implied by 04:02:664 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - before it suggest the last blue tick is skipped. Also the sliderstreamjumps caused by the holds are super mega painful.
Yeah, I can see that, many people got 100s because they left early. Ill consider changing this part if more people thinks so

So you only liked my slow part... /me is sad

Anyways, kudosed because of timing help.

Also... for some reason I cannot update, it gets stuck at distributing to global network...
Sieg
thanks
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244,68,121928,6,0,L|263:186,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
198,151,122562,2,0,P|219:234|179:312,2,150,4|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
341,144,124042,1,8,0:0:0:0:
341,144,124254,2,0,P|320:61|333:24,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
401,26,124888,2,0,L|472:18,1,60,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
478,89,125311,2,0,L|487:220,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
455,274,125945,2,0,L|459:344,1,60,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
354,234,126580,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,127003,12,4,128271,0:0:0:0:
358,233,128694,6,0,P|401:191|404:116,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
443,70,129328,2,0,P|391:132|285:118,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
161,83,130386,2,0,P|96:34|-3:71,2,180,4|4|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
59,185,132077,6,0,P|45:243|84:308,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,368,132711,2,0,P|85:287|182:241,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,375,133768,1,8,0:3:0:0:
279,245,134191,1,8,0:0:0:0:
366,359,134614,1,8,0:3:0:0:
437,233,135037,1,8,0:0:0:0:
342,123,135460,6,0,L|198:144,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
235,68,136095,2,0,L|379:47,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
425,41,136729,1,8,0:0:0:0:
413,184,137152,1,12,0:0:0:0:
359,317,137574,1,8,0:0:0:0:
359,317,137786,2,0,P|315:366|259:365,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
290,300,138420,2,0,L|284:223,1,60,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,171,138843,2,0,P|248:179|214:224,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,296,139478,2,0,L|214:373,1,60,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
71,326,140112,1,8,0:0:0:0:
30,187,140535,5,8,0:0:0:0:
50,117,140747,2,0,L|34:21,2,90,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
99,168,141592,1,8,0:0:0:0:
110,239,141804,1,8,0:0:0:0:
241,177,142227,6,0,L|245:301,1,120,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,370,142861,1,10,0:3:0:0:
311,331,143073,2,0,P|344:302|429:302,1,120,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
485,324,143707,1,10,0:3:0:0:
500,252,143919,2,0,L|503:122,1,120,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
430,136,144553,2,0,L|428:237,2,90,10|10|10,0:3|0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
431,63,145399,1,10,0:3:0:0:
365,92,145610,6,0,P|317:127|253:123,1,120,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
191,99,146245,1,10,0:3:0:0:
129,65,146456,2,0,P|70:58|25:96,1,120,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
91,127,147090,2,0,P|134:158|147:196,2,90,10|8|10,0:3|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
75,197,147936,2,0,B|139:195|194:237|194:237|305:206,1,240,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,268,148993,6,0,L|223:302,1,120,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
153,319,149627,1,10,0:0:0:0:
161,247,149839,2,0,L|277:213,1,120,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
345,194,150473,1,10,0:3:0:0:
402,150,150685,2,0,P|419:92|408:31,1,120,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
473,66,151319,2,0,P|463:115|471:171,2,90,8|8|10,0:3|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
409,34,152165,1,8,0:3:0:0:
360,87,152376,6,0,P|308:108|244:104,1,120,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,102,153011,1,10,0:3:0:0:
205,165,153222,2,0,P|252:194|286:248,1,120,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
351,278,153856,2,0,P|356:238|332:186,2,90,10|8|10,0:3|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,349,154702,2,0,B|308:361|256:301|256:301|204:361|152:349,1,240,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
138,278,155759,6,0,P|163:103|14:26,1,360,12|8,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
9,169,157451,6,0,L|13:249,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
35,297,157874,1,2,0:0:0:0:
88,345,158085,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,299,158297,2,0,L|140:219,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
169,172,158720,2,0,L|165:92,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
145,43,159142,2,0,P|202:69|258:53,1,120,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,34,159777,1,2,0:0:0:0:
394,21,159988,2,0,P|452:20|498:57,1,120,10|10,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
502,201,160834,6,0,L|507:335,2,120,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
482,57,162103,1,2,0:0:0:0:
410,49,162314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
346,83,162526,2,0,L|351:217,1,120,8|8,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,275,163160,2,0,P|311:303|299:334,1,60,8|8,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
256,260,163583,1,8,0:3:0:0:
207,314,163794,2,0,P|190:290|165:275,1,60,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
161,202,164217,2,0,L|166:83,2,120,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,311,165486,1,2,0:0:0:0:
112,327,165909,6,0,L|85:205,1,120,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
150,242,166543,2,0,L|160:181,1,60,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
297,225,167177,2,0,L|307:286,1,60,8|8,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
365,242,167600,2,0,L|344:337,2,90,12|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
381,171,168446,2,0,L|394:100,2,60,0|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
365,242,169080,1,8,0:3:0:0:
349,312,169292,6,0,B|301:337|256:312|256:312|211:286|166:312,1,180,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
127,359,170138,2,0,P|104:279|14:272,1,180,10|2,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
66,216,170983,2,0,P|131:230|177:123,1,180,10|10,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
122,107,171829,2,0,P|71:111|22:82,2,90,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
185,72,172675,6,0,P|248:43|366:48,1,180,10|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,116,173521,2,0,P|290:108|235:122,2,90,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
414,140,174367,1,0,0:0:0:0:
363,191,174578,2,0,P|352:279|484:279,1,240,2|10,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
418,242,175635,1,8,0:0:0:0:
323,350,176058,6,0,L|304:228,1,120,10|8,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
163,201,176904,2,0,P|133:185|85:196,1,60,10|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
118,256,177327,2,0,L|130:333,1,60,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,343,177750,2,0,L|40:221,1,120,10|8,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
58,81,178595,2,0,L|52:14,1,60,10|2,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,31,179018,2,0,L|130:98,1,60,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
155,158,179441,6,0,P|215:55|261:64,2,180,10|2|8,0:3|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,130,180921,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,125,181133,2,0,P|329:81|326:31,2,90,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,61,181979,1,8,0:0:0:0:
401,308,182824,6,0,B|357:263|283:269|256:340|256:340|229:269|155:263|111:308,1,360,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,271,184305,2,0,L|36:76,1,180,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,100,185362,2,0,P|226:51|294:50,1,120,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
297,188,186208,5,10,0:0:0:0:
297,188,186419,2,0,P|392:237|461:186,1,180,8|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
387,75,187476,1,0,0:0:0:0:
253,129,187899,2,0,P|185:138|136:114,2,120,2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
322,148,188956,2,0,P|378:200|386:258,1,120,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
390,312,189591,1,2,0:0:0:0:
254,357,190014,6,0,B|196:276|256:192|256:192|316:108|256:24,1,360,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
143,289,192128,2,0,P|78:307|46:359,1,120,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
46,275,192762,2,0,P|94:228|115:119,1,180,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,237,193820,1,10,0:0:0:0:
416,52,194665,6,0,B|336:-8|256:73|256:73|176:-8|96:52,1,360,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,185,196357,2,0,P|256:236|360:185,1,240,10|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
94,297,198049,5,2,0:0:0:0:
94,297,198471,1,10,0:0:0:0:
94,297,198894,2,0,P|156:285|196:235,1,120,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
318,314,199740,2,0,P|415:303|482:172,1,240,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,168,201009,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,26,201432,2,0,B|312:-6|256:26|256:26|200:58|144:26,1,240,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
94,309,203123,5,10,0:0:0:0:
94,309,203334,2,0,L|108:129,1,180,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
250,110,204391,1,2,0:0:0:0:
391,138,204815,2,0,L|401:19,2,120,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
382,209,205872,2,0,L|373:290,2,60,8|10|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,206506,12,4,209890,0:0:0:0:
387,332,216656,6,0,P|315:330|260:353,1,120,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
206,314,217290,2,0,P|119:347|16:336,1,180,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
55,199,218347,1,8,0:0:0:0:
130,76,218770,1,8,0:0:0:0:
268,36,219193,1,8,0:0:0:0:
411,42,219616,1,8,0:0:0:0:
315,149,220039,6,0,P|311:213|344:281,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,232,220673,2,0,P|292:291|350:338,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
403,347,221308,1,8,0:0:0:0:
429,205,221731,1,12,0:0:0:0:
446,62,222153,1,8,0:0:0:0:
446,62,222365,2,0,L|326:45,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
256,60,222999,2,0,B|257:89|257:89|254:105|254:105|256:135,1,60,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,156,223422,2,0,L|72:139,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,66,224057,2,0,L|151:76,1,60,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,215,224691,1,8,0:0:0:0:
87,357,225114,5,8,0:0:0:0:
157,345,225325,2,0,L|253:329,2,90,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
87,357,226171,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,368,226382,1,8,0:0:0:0:
110,258,226805,6,0,P|194:243|242:161,2,180,12|4|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
249,294,228497,2,0,P|301:229|311:134,2,180,12|4|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
111,250,230188,6,0,L|90:123,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
143,181,230822,2,0,P|154:101|248:48,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
290,180,231879,1,8,0:3:0:0:
290,180,232302,1,8,0:0:0:0:
431,153,232725,1,8,0:3:0:0:
431,153,233148,1,8,0:0:0:0:
287,144,233571,6,0,L|268:262,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
333,227,234205,2,0,P|312:310|352:388,2,150,4|2|12,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
401,100,235685,1,8,0:0:0:0:
401,100,235897,2,0,P|342:66|282:66,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
220,79,236531,2,0,P|179:85|144:74,1,60,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,78,236955,2,0,L|97:209,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
135,257,237588,2,0,L|141:328,1,60,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,230,238223,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,238646,12,4,239914,0:0:0:0:
467,113,240338,6,0,P|425:70|350:67,1,120,10|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,28,240972,2,0,P|366:80|352:186,1,180,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
341,315,242030,2,0,P|406:364|505:327,2,180,2|2|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
226,228,243721,6,0,P|168:214|103:253,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
43,245,244355,2,0,P|124:254|170:351,1,180,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
205,193,245412,2,0,P|137:173|95:134,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
12,27,246258,1,0,0:0:0:0:
12,27,246681,1,8,0:0:0:0:
155,43,247104,6,0,L|298:67,1,120,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,129,247739,2,0,L|96:104,1,120,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
51,95,248373,1,10,0:0:0:0:
128,216,248796,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,280,249218,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,207,249430,2,0,B|254:158|254:158|257:124|257:124|256:83,1,120,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,27,250064,2,0,P|328:36|372:21,1,60,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,41,250487,2,0,P|432:101|477:135,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,128,251122,2,0,L|410:205,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
417,331,251756,1,10,0:0:0:0:
285,272,252179,6,0,P|269:230|269:176,2,90,10|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
219,301,253025,2,0,P|170:269|93:285,1,120,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
34,152,253870,1,12,0:0:0:0:
303,93,255139,5,8,0:0:0:0:
303,93,255350,1,12,0:0:0:0:
Kenezz
Holi <3

[Easy]
  1. ¿Qué te parece OD+1 para equilibrar el setup song? A pesar de ser Easy me parece demasiado poco que ahora este ajustado en 1. (Sí, lo sé, no es una gran diferencia pero la dificultad no es tan fácil como otras que siguen ritmos mucho más simples).
  2. 00:08:374 (1) - ¿Este circle no debería estar en el siguiente downbeat? La verdad es que yo consideraría más factible que lo ajustaras, igual el golpe de la pista está mas marcado en ese punto.
  3. 00:12:602 (1) - Lo mismo con este spinner, pues debería terminar 1/2 después. Como lo tienes ahora cuando llegas al final se siente como si terminara de una manera un poco abrupta, no sé tu pero yo siento que queda mejor si lo ajustas.
  4. 02:57:743 (2) - Quedaría mejor si inviertes el inicio con Ctrl+G.
  5. 03:36:649 (1) - No es un gran problema pero la diferencia de espacio entre los sliders anteriores comparado con este circle y el anterior es bastante notable. IMO Quedaría mejor si mueves el circle hacia abajo siguiendo el eje central x. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1981447
  6. El cambio en la dificultad en el kiai final con esos 1/2-1/2 no me termina de convencer pero en general me gustó mucho la diff :D
[Sieg's Normal]
  1. I realize that your diff doesn't have kiai time, are you sure with this?
  2. 00:33:959 (3) - This isn't so necessary but maybe add a nc here since the track has changed.
  3. 00:36:497 (1) - If you add with the previous point considers remove this nc and add one to 00:37:342 (7) (To avoid the long combo P:). http://puu.sh/bdp9N/14de99cc93.png
  4. 02:02:555 (2) - The repeat sounds odd because don't follow anything, if you want follow properly the voice then the repeat should on the next white tick for instance. Here I have a suggestion: Remove the repeat and lenghteen to the white tick (02:03:190), now add two stacked circles on 02:03:612 & 02:03:824, finally remove this circle 02:04:035 (3) (Don't forget the hitsounds). IMO this work better because improves the rhythm of the pattern following properly the track & voice. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1981635 Give it a try!
  5. 03:30:728 - The rhythmical break is needless since the track has already changed. Compare this with others diffs.
  6. Blankets, cute blankets everywhere <3
[Hard]
  1. 01:58:538 (8) - Acorde a tus patrones de nc debería empezar aquí y no en el siguiente circle.
  2. Lo demás me parece bien, un poco difícil con todos esos tripletes pero la verdad quedan bastante bien ;)
[Shiro's Insane]
  1. 00:06:894 (5) - The start sounds too much awkward for me because track don't point nothing, also the sound of that drum is too loud. Maybe remove all hitsounding on this.
  2. 00:37:554 - This extended break is needless.
  3. 01:03:562 (1) - This new combo is really necessary? The spacing and rhythm is same like the previous.
  4. 01:40:776 (1) - Same as before. I mean another combos with various spacements has no nc and this yes.
  5. 02:54:571 (6) - Maybe add new combo to split the current one that is a bit long.
  6. 03:02:183 (10) - And here another due the anti-jump.
  7. I'm not fan of sick jumps but well.
[Insane]
  1. 00:17:043 (3) - Creo que es más conveniente que inicies el new combo aquí y lo elimines del siguiente circle por la diferencia de tiempo de pausa y el cambio en la pista.
  2. 02:44:210 (1,2,3,4) - Solo por mencionarlo el espacio entre estos sldiers y el patrón anterior es diferente 02:37:444 (1,2,3,4), me parece que puedes modificar un poco el primero para que sea igual a este o este para que sea igual al primero ya que es prácticamente el mismo sonido en la pista y voz.
  3. 02:52:668 (4) - Acorde a los combos anteriores deberías empezar un nuevo aquí en vez de agregarlo al siguiente circle.
  4. 03:01:760 (1) - Esta parte quedaría mejor si colocas este circle debajo de 03:01:126 (1) y eliminas el new combo aquí y lo agregas en el siguiente circle. Todo esto porque en este circle todavía continua el cambio de ritmo de 3/4-3/4 que hiciste con los dos anteriores. http://puu.sh/bfCM1/a055937a2b.png
  5. 04:13:863 (3) - New combo aquí también, aquí lo hiciste y es el mismo patrón 02:48:862 (1,2,1).
Es todo supongo, espero que te sirva de ayuda.
Llámame cuando hayas aplicado los cambios.
Sieg
all applied except of ncs
thanks Kenezz <3

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Topic Starter
Luvdic

Kenezz wrote:

Holi <3

[Easy]
  1. ¿Qué te parece OD+1 para equilibrar el setup song? A pesar de ser Easy me parece demasiado poco que ahora este ajustado en 1. (Sí, lo sé, no es una gran diferencia pero la dificultad no es tan fácil como otras que siguen ritmos mucho más simples).
    Okay
  2. 00:08:374 (1) - ¿Este circle no debería estar en el siguiente downbeat? La verdad es que yo consideraría más factible que lo ajustaras, igual el golpe de la pista está mas marcado en ese punto.
  3. 00:12:602 (1) - Lo mismo con este spinner, pues debería terminar 1/2 después. Como lo tienes ahora cuando llegas al final se siente como si terminara de una manera un poco abrupta, no sé tu pero yo siento que queda mejor si lo ajustas.
    En mis tests, los novatos siempre pegaban antes de tiempo, probe asi, y si funciona mejor
  4. 02:57:743 (2) - Quedaría mejor si inviertes el inicio con Ctrl+G.
    Me gusta mas como esta ahora
  5. 03:36:649 (1) - No es un gran problema pero la diferencia de espacio entre los sliders anteriores comparado con este circle y el anterior es bastante notable. IMO Quedaría mejor si mueves el circle hacia abajo siguiendo el eje central x. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1981447
    Okay
  6. El cambio en la dificultad en el kiai final con esos 1/2-1/2 no me termina de convencer pero en general me gustó mucho la diff :D
    Pues, todas mis diffs son mas dificiles en el ultimo coro, asi que por consistencia, este diff deberia ser asi tambien (??

[Hard]
  1. 01:58:538 (8) - Acorde a tus patrones de nc debería empezar aquí y no en el siguiente circle.
    Okay
  2. Lo demás me parece bien, un poco difícil con todos esos tripletes pero la verdad quedan bastante bien ;)
    Elimine algunos triples ayer ;)

[Insane]
  1. 00:17:043 (3) - Creo que es más conveniente que inicies el new combo aquí y lo elimines del siguiente circle por la diferencia de tiempo de pausa y el cambio en la pista.
    Okay
  2. 02:44:210 (1,2,3,4) - Solo por mencionarlo el espacio entre estos sldiers y el patrón anterior es diferente 02:37:444 (1,2,3,4), me parece que puedes modificar un poco el primero para que sea igual a este o este para que sea igual al primero ya que es prácticamente el mismo sonido en la pista y voz.
    Si bien es la misma, queria variarlo un poco al ser la ultima
  3. 02:52:668 (4) - Acorde a los combos anteriores deberías empezar un nuevo aquí en vez de agregarlo al siguiente circle.
    Okay
  4. 03:01:760 (1) - Esta parte quedaría mejor si colocas este circle debajo de 03:01:126 (1) y eliminas el new combo aquí y lo agregas en el siguiente circle. Todo esto porque en este circle todavía continua el cambio de ritmo de 3/4-3/4 que hiciste con los dos anteriores. http://puu.sh/bfCM1/a055937a2b.png
    No todos los anteriores, queria enfocar tambien los tambores, y por eso el NC, y la forma en que se mapeo como en 02:45:902 -
  5. 04:13:863 (3) - New combo aquí también, aquí lo hiciste y es el mismo patrón 02:48:862 (1,2,1).
    Okay
Es todo supongo, espero que te sirva de ayuda.
Llámame cuando hayas aplicado los cambios.
Gracias! ;)
Shiro

Kenezz wrote:

[Shiro's Insane]
  1. 00:06:894 (5) - The start sounds too much awkward for me because track don't point nothing, also the sound of that drum is too loud. Maybe remove all hitsounding on this. Huh, there wasn't supposed to be any hitsound on that slider.
  2. 00:37:554 - This extended break is needless. k
  3. 01:03:562 (1) - This new combo is really necessary? The spacing and rhythm is same like the previous. removed
  4. 01:40:776 (1) - Same as before. I mean another combos with various spacements has no nc and this yes. ^
  5. 02:54:571 (6) - Maybe add new combo to split the current one that is a bit long. That wouldn't be consistent. D:
  6. 03:02:183 (10) - And here another due the anti-jump. Inconsistent as well. The anti-jumps are readable as is thanks to the massive spacing change and the fact that the 1/4 before had specific spacing which was different.
  7. I'm not fan of sick jumps but well.
Thanks for the mod.
http://puu.sh/bgoUg/11441177e8.osu
Kenezz
Here we go~

Circled
woof is coming true!
qoot8123
Hi :)

[General]
  1. Because this map doesn't have SB, so I recommend remove widescreen support
[ Muzukashii]

  1. HP 5.1 and OD 4.8 ? Is that intense? if not, please set hp and od to 5
  2. 02:39:981 (20) - move to 02:40:404 - and change to d to make a consistency with 02:35:752 (1,2,3,4) -
  3. 02:46:747 (48) - ^

[ Oni]

  1. HP 5 OD6 ?
  2. hmm.. i think change sv to 1.6 is enough for this kind of song
  3. 00:07:846 (14) - move to 00:07:951 - to make the same break with 00:06:894 (9) - and 00:06:048 (5) -
  4. 00:14:612 (38) - ^
  5. 00:50:875 (46) - remove finish ,big note on the end of stream which less than 8 long stream is not acceptable nowhttps://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3333986/
  6. 01:04:407 (104) - ^
  7. 01:41:622 (47) - ^
  8. 02:08:687 (162) - ^
  9. 03:40:032 (16) - ^
  10. 03:46:798 (49) - ^
  11. 03:50:181 (63) - ^
  12. 01:28:830 (263) - how about remove this note? not must but you can consider about this
  13. 02:07:524 (154,155) - reverse these kd, the drum sound is similar with 02:07:207 (152,153) -
  14. 02:08:159 (158,159) - ^
  15. 02:29:937 (68) - change to d this kat may kill a lot of player
pretty good taiko diffs :)
Nwolf

qoot8123 wrote:

Hi :) hi :3

[General]
  1. Because this map doesn't have SB, so I recommend remove widescreen support done
[ Muzukashii]

  1. HP 5.1 and OD 4.8 ? Is that intense? if not, please set hp and od to 5 Yeah changed
  2. 02:39:981 (20) - move to 02:40:404 - and change to d to make a consistency with 02:35:752 (1,2,3,4) -
  3. 02:46:747 (48) - ^ changed both

[ Oni]

  1. HP 5 OD6 ? yep
  2. hmm.. i think change sv to 1.6 is enough for this kind of song due to all xxO disappearing now, changed
  3. 00:07:846 (14) - move to 00:07:951 - to make the same break with 00:06:894 (9) - and 00:06:048 (5) -
  4. 00:14:612 (38) - ^
  5. 00:50:875 (46) - remove finish ,big note on the end of stream which less than 8 long stream is not acceptable nowhttps://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3333986/
  6. 01:04:407 (104) - ^
  7. 01:41:622 (47) - ^
  8. 02:08:687 (162) - ^
  9. 03:40:032 (16) - ^
  10. 03:46:798 (49) - ^
  11. 03:50:181 (63) - ^ all gone
  12. 01:28:830 (263) - how about remove this note? not must but you can consider about this I decided to add this note because it didn't feel right to start on white tick all the time.
  13. 02:07:524 (154,155) - reverse these kd, the drum sound is similar with 02:07:207 (152,153) -
  14. 02:08:159 (158,159) - ^ changed both
  15. 02:29:937 (68) - change to d this kat may kill a lot of player changed
pretty good taiko diffs :)
thanks!

http://puu.sh/buz8a/97941af93d.osu Muzu
http://puu.sh/buz8C/cc4a73c035.osu Oni
Maruyu
*Yuzu- is watching Nightwish - Dead to the World [Shiro's Insane]*

00:17:043 (1) - this needs to be made a thing out of huehuehuehue
Nwolf
aaaaah update the taikos ;w;

http://puu.sh/bynij/87e8c81542.osu Oni update, weird SV stuff happened
Topic Starter
Luvdic
Updated!
qoot8123
the muzu is a bit hard but I think it would be fine because the oni is also a harder one

Bubbled!

: p/3349369/
Myxo
Going to check it in a few days if isn't already ranked then.
Pleeeeas I wanna do it
Topic Starter
Luvdic

Desperate-kun wrote:

Going to check it in a few days if isn't already ranked then.
Pleeeeas I wanna do it
Okay, Ill leave it in your hand then xD

Thanks a lot!
Myxo
Sorry, but I have to pop your bubble for the following issues. These are must-fixes.

Easy

03:36:860 (1) - The recovery time after this spinner is too low. Referring to this general consense:

Garven wrote:

General rule of thumb: Easy - Full measure (4 beats). Each difficulty increment up, halve it. So Normal would be about 2 beats, Hard 1 beat, Insane and up whatever. Depending on BPM of course. Kind of a baseline for that is around 160 bpm. New players need A LOT of time to recover from spinners because they're going to spin wildly and lose their cursor position.
you must have around a full measure of recovery time here. It doesn't have to be exactly a full measure but 3/2 is definitely too low.
03:45:318 (1) - Same applies here.

Normal

00:47:492 (1) - Read what I wrote in the Easy. You need atleast 2 beats of recovery time after a spinner in Normal.
01:26:398 (1) - Same.
01:38:240 (1) - Same.
02:06:996 (1) - Same.
03:58:639 (1) - Same.

Here comes the rest of my recheck:


  • General
  1. Add tag: turunen, if you already include Tarja to the tags you can also add the surename.


  • Easy
  1. This Easy is really, really tough. Due to the big amount of 3/2-gaps and 1/2-stacks in the last section, a lower OD, like OD 1.5, is absolutely necessary.
  2. 00:08:374 (1) - I don't know if I already mentioned it last time, but this would sound much better as an 1/2-slider. You also use 1/2-sliders at the end so I don't see the reason why you would avoid it here.
  3. 04:13:863 (1,2) - The movement is a bit too sharp for the easiest diff. Change it like this: http://puu.sh/bBsCv/af8745890f.jpg It would be easier to understand for the newbies.


  • Sieg's Normal
  1. I get that you don't want to make your combos shorter, but then atleast turn the drain down. HP 3.5 would still be average for a Normal. Also, OD 3.5 would be nice, because you are using very many 1/2-objects and the spread would improve from this change.
  2. 00:49:183 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Anitjumps like this are not appropriate for a Normal, especially since you have been using stacked 1/2 as well. Please, change it to regular stacks.
  3. 01:07:791 (1,2) - Don't use 1/1-antijumps when you used them for 1/2 before, and even if you fixed it, this one still needs to be changed imo. It's not acceptable for a Normal difficulty. Either stack them completely, or preferably, space them out.
  4. 02:30:678 (5,6) - The overlap looks really messy and doesn't fit into a Normal difficulty. Something more simple like: http://puu.sh/bBtdO/04a014a5e0.jpg would fit much better.
  5. Overall, most aspects improved since I modded it before, but a few didn't, and I'm very serious about these this time. I consider everything I wrote as a criteria for me to rebubble this, because even though this is a harder Normal, the stacking issues as well as the overlap are not okay for me. Of course I can't force you, but I just can't reconcile this with my conscience. There are a few other overlaps in this map that bother me a bit, but they should be okay..


  • Shiro's Insane
  1. 00:32:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I remember this had some fancy hitsounding when I modded it - Now it sounds very empty o.o Please, change it back.
  2. 01:52:194 (2,3,4) - The regular spacing after the jump really breaks the flow for me. It goes in the same direction as the jump, so it just feels unnatural to stop moving like this. Maybe you could change it like this: http://puu.sh/bBy7P/1ce80b96ad.jpg
  3. 01:53:040 (5,6,1) - Same. A nice solution would be to change the order of notes from the following square, so the pattern looks like this: http://puu.sh/bByb0/8ff4d3f35b.jpg
  4. 02:45:902 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Sure you don't want to make this a perfect square?

Call me back when the important issues are fixed. Please, give good reasoning for all that you deny. Thank you :)
Sieg
It's called manual stacking not antijumps, you may learn the difference from perfect stacking by testing this moment on actual play. :3

manual stack


perfect stack


other things all changed\fixed

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416,52,194658,6,0,B|336:-8|256:73|256:73|176:-8|96:52,1,360,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,185,196350,2,0,P|256:236|360:185,1,240,10|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
94,297,198042,5,2,0:0:0:0:
94,297,198464,1,10,0:0:0:0:
94,297,198887,2,0,P|156:285|196:235,1,120,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
318,314,199733,2,0,P|415:303|482:172,1,240,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,168,201002,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,26,201425,2,0,B|312:-6|256:26|256:26|200:58|144:26,1,240,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
94,309,203116,5,10,0:0:0:0:
94,309,203327,2,0,L|108:129,1,180,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
250,110,204384,1,2,0:0:0:0:
391,138,204808,2,0,L|401:19,2,120,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
382,209,205865,2,0,L|373:290,2,60,8|10|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,206499,12,4,209883,0:0:0:0:
387,332,216649,6,0,P|315:330|260:353,1,120,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
206,314,217283,2,0,P|119:347|16:336,1,180,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
55,199,218340,1,8,0:0:0:0:
130,76,218763,1,8,0:0:0:0:
268,36,219186,1,8,0:0:0:0:
411,42,219609,1,8,0:0:0:0:
315,149,220032,6,0,P|311:213|344:281,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,232,220666,2,0,P|292:291|350:338,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
403,347,221301,1,8,0:0:0:0:
429,205,221724,1,12,0:0:0:0:
446,62,222146,1,8,0:0:0:0:
446,62,222358,2,0,L|326:45,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
256,60,222992,2,0,B|257:89|257:89|254:105|254:105|256:135,1,60,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,156,223415,2,0,L|72:139,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,66,224050,2,0,L|151:76,1,60,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,215,224684,1,8,0:0:0:0:
87,357,225107,5,8,0:0:0:0:
157,345,225318,2,0,L|253:329,2,90,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
87,357,226164,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,368,226375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
110,258,226798,6,0,P|194:243|242:161,2,180,12|4|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
249,294,228490,2,0,P|301:229|311:134,2,180,12|4|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
111,250,230181,6,0,L|90:123,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
143,181,230815,2,0,P|154:101|248:48,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
290,180,231872,1,8,0:3:0:0:
290,180,232295,1,8,0:0:0:0:
431,153,232718,1,8,0:3:0:0:
431,153,233141,1,8,0:0:0:0:
294,108,233564,6,0,L|275:226,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,191,234198,2,0,P|319:274|363:354,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
464,251,235256,1,4,0:0:0:0:
464,251,235468,1,0,0:0:0:0:
428,111,235890,2,0,P|369:77|309:77,1,120,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
246,78,236524,2,0,P|205:84|170:73,1,60,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
115,87,236948,2,0,L|124:218,1,120,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
159,268,237581,2,0,L|165:339,1,60,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,238216,12,4,239484,0:0:0:0:
467,113,240331,6,0,P|425:70|350:67,1,120,10|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,28,240965,2,0,P|366:80|352:186,1,180,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
341,315,242023,2,0,P|406:364|505:327,2,180,2|2|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
226,228,243714,6,0,P|168:214|103:253,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
43,245,244348,2,0,P|124:254|170:351,1,180,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
205,193,245405,2,0,P|137:173|95:134,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
12,27,246251,1,0,0:0:0:0:
12,27,246674,1,8,0:0:0:0:
155,43,247097,6,0,L|298:67,1,120,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,129,247732,2,0,L|96:104,1,120,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
51,95,248366,1,10,0:0:0:0:
128,216,248789,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,280,249211,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,207,249423,2,0,B|254:158|254:158|257:124|257:124|256:83,1,120,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,27,250057,2,0,P|328:36|372:21,1,60,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,41,250480,2,0,P|432:101|477:135,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,128,251115,2,0,L|410:205,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
417,331,251749,1,10,0:0:0:0:
285,272,252172,6,0,P|269:230|269:176,2,90,10|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
219,301,253018,2,0,P|170:269|93:285,1,120,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
34,152,253863,1,12,0:0:0:0:
303,93,255132,5,8,0:0:0:0:
303,93,255343,1,12,0:0:0:0:

many thanks Desperate-kun (:
Topic Starter
Luvdic

Desperate-kun wrote:

Sorry, but I have to pop your bubble for the following issues. These are must-fixes.

Easy

03:36:860 (1) - The recovery time after this spinner is too low. Referring to this general consense:

Garven wrote:

General rule of thumb: Easy - Full measure (4 beats). Each difficulty increment up, halve it. So Normal would be about 2 beats, Hard 1 beat, Insane and up whatever. Depending on BPM of course. Kind of a baseline for that is around 160 bpm. New players need A LOT of time to recover from spinners because they're going to spin wildly and lose their cursor position.
you must have around a full measure of recovery time here. It doesn't have to be exactly a full measure but 3/2 is definitely too low.
03:45:318 (1) - Same applies here.
Since thats for a 160 BPM, for a 130 bpm it should be around 3/4, hopefully its good enough now (also it kinda screwed up the whole map's rhytm of 3/2 lol)




  • General
  1. Add tag: turunen, if you already include Tarja to the tags you can also add the surename.
    Ok


  • Easy
  1. This Easy is really, really tough. Due to the big amount of 3/2-gaps and 1/2-stacks in the last section, a lower OD, like OD 1.5, is absolutely necessary.
    Hehehe was hoping that starting the red ticks with sliders would make it ok (and apparently it is, basing on the few play tests i did) Anyways, I used to have it at 1 on your recommendation, then changed back to 2 on other modder's recommendation, and now its staying at 1.5 I guess.
  2. 00:08:374 (1) - I don't know if I already mentioned it last time, but this would sound much better as an 1/2-slider. You also use 1/2-sliders at the end so I don't see the reason why you would avoid it here.
    For reasons stated in the other mod. Also didnt do it here becauselast part was supposed to be a 'harder' part. But now changed to this way anyways, not a big deal.
  3. 04:13:863 (1,2) - The movement is a bit too sharp for the easiest diff. Change it like this: http://puu.sh/bBsCv/af8745890f.jpg It would be easier to understand for the newbies.
    Did a ctrl+g instead
Thanks! WIll update after shiro's response
Myxo
@Sieg Yeah, sorry for the bad wording. It will probably be kinda unexpected for the newbies anyways since the angle is different but since the spacing is the same as for stacks I'm fine with it now! :)
Shiro

Desperate-kun wrote:


  • Shiro's Insane
  1. 00:32:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I remember this had some fancy hitsounding when I modded it - Now it sounds very empty o.o Please, change it back. I can't actually remember doing anything fancy for these o.O so I did something fancy for you :3
  2. 01:52:194 (2,3,4) - The regular spacing after the jump really breaks the flow for me. It goes in the same direction as the jump, so it just feels unnatural to stop moving like this. Maybe you could change it like this: http://puu.sh/bBy7P/1ce80b96ad.jpg didn't exactly do like the picture, but changed
  3. 01:53:040 (5,6,1) - Same. A nice solution would be to change the order of notes from the following square, so the pattern looks like this: http://puu.sh/bByb0/8ff4d3f35b.jpg applied my own fix, not quite like you did
  4. 02:45:902 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Sure you don't want to make this a perfect square? That wasn't actually meant to be a square, mostly because of the placement of other circles like 02:44:633 (3,5,6,8) - so that everything is visually consistent and looks good
Thanks for the mod !

http://puu.sh/bE7rY/eee79a8488.osu
Topic Starter
Luvdic
Updated!
Myxo
Re-Check~

[General]

You got two spaces after "turunen" in the tags of the Hard difficulty.

[Easy]

Try to reduce your NCing a bit (preferably make it consistent by placing NC every 2 measures). Variable NCing is not really recommended for Easy / Normal since it likely messes up the HP-drain. In sections like 03:53:564 it's okay because it helps understanding the rhythm, but even there for example 03:51:873 (1) this NC is not needed.
00:39:245 (1) - I just realised this spinner might be a bit too short for a Normal. Consider to extend it until 00:40:725 ? Because the sound you are following fades out completely at this point.

[Hard]

00:12:603 (1) - Sorry that I forgot to tell it last time, but in the rule about recovery time was also included that it should be 1/1 after a spinner in Hard...
03:36:755 (1) - Sigh
Topic Starter
Luvdic

Desperate-kun wrote:

Re-Check~

[General]

You got two spaces after "turunen" in the tags of the Hard difficulty. OOps ! ;)!

[Easy]

Try to reduce your NCing a bit (preferably make it consistent by placing NC every 2 measures). Variable NCing is not really recommended for Easy / Normal since it likely messes up the HP-drain. In sections like 03:53:564 it's okay because it helps understanding the rhythm, but even there for example 03:51:873 (1) this NC is not needed.
NCs reduced

00:39:245 (1) - I just realised this spinner might be a bit too short for a Normal. Consider to extend it until 00:40:725 ? Because the sound you are following fades out completely at this point.
Actually, it finishes right here, but okay, extended anyways.

[Hard]

00:12:603 (1) - Sorry that I forgot to tell it last time, but in the rule about recovery time was also included that it should be 1/1 after a spinner in Hard...
Deleted the notes after the spinner to keep consistency with easy
03:36:755 (1) - Sigh
Deleted note at 03:38:129 -

Since when these became a rule? Anyways, it seemed fine for me, and everyone else that modded this, I mean, I agree with the ones in easy diff, but the hard diff I think it was okay since I purposely gave an easy pattern after the spinners (stack) and only if I use a relatively long spinner, makes me feel like all these criteria I used to map these parts go to waste.
Hopefully everything should be in order now!
Myxo

Xanandra wrote:

Since when these became a rule? Anyways, it seemed fine for me, and everyone else that modded this, I mean, I agree with the ones in easy diff, but the hard diff I think it was okay since I purposely gave an easy pattern after the spinners (stack) and only if I use a relatively long spinner, makes me feel like all these criteria I used to map these parts go to waste.
It's only a guideline, not a rule. It can be broken when there is really no other possibility, but here it could be fixed.
The main reason for the guideline is that it can be confusing when too many objects appear on the screen while you are spinning, even for Hard players.
I also somewhat disagree with aspects of that rule, but there have been several unqualifies stating it as a reason, so I obviously don't want this to happen here.

I'll re-re-check the mapset later this day!

EDIT: Rebubbled (ノ 'ω')ノ
Kenezz
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Myxo
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Sieg

Kenezz wrote:

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Topic Starter
Luvdic
Ermm... Sorry, been busy these days (since like 1 month and half since I started tyo work)

I already asked several BATs but all of their repl;ies have been something along the lines of: Ill try! or No! But Ill still keep trying whenever I have time!
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