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Have you ever heard of a smurf? There is no way that a bronze would out CS and out lane a syndra diamond player as graves lolLa Volpe wrote:
That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
Guess I forgot to mention,it was a normal game. Why would someone smurf on a normal match?Eren Yaeger wrote:
Have you ever heard of a smurf? There is no way that a bronze would out CS and out lane a syndra diamond player as graves lolLa Volpe wrote:
That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
Warmup game, for shits and gigs? Who knows, I just know that a bronze won't beat a diamond lolLa Volpe wrote:
Guess I forgot to mention,it was a normal game. Why would someone smurf on a normal match?Eren Yaeger wrote:
Have you ever heard of a smurf? There is no way that a bronze would out CS and out lane a syndra diamond player as graves lol
I have let my friends play on my account so they can test champions they don't have, could've been that. Needless to say they got flamed quite a bit for playing awful on d1 account.
Lawl.La Volpe wrote:
That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
So many differently ranked people in that game...
That Syndra only plays like 4 champions in ranked and none of them are mid laners. There are tons and tons of one trick ponies in diamond (I'm one of them).
For example if all the champions I play get banned or picked I will play like a bronze 5 so it's better if I dodge. That very rarely happens though because most stuff I play will never go FOTM.
For example if all the champions I play get banned or picked I will play like a bronze 5 so it's better if I dodge. That very rarely happens though because most stuff I play will never go FOTM.
Never say neverVulf wrote:
most stuff I play will never go FOTM.
SoG Tava wrote:
Never say neverVulf wrote:
most stuff I play will never go FOTM.
Agreed.
even warwick pretty much went fotm for a couple of minutes
Warwick has kinda been fotm twice already, but Riot won't let it stay that way for long.
The odds of all the champions I play going FOTM at once is extremely rare.
Zilean hasn't been fotm since season 1
Volibear was good in season 3 for like a week and got nerfed. He is seeing competitive play though.
Galio was never really flavor of the month at all if I remember correctly. He was played a lot top/mid in season 1 and 2 but it never reached fotm status.
Then I have my troll picks like Urgot that I'm good with.
So yeah if every single one of those champs become ban worthy I might be 100% screwed in ranked. Also I'm sure soraka will be considered useless after her nerf on the pbe goes live so there is another champ I play that I can use again. lol
The odds of all the champions I play going FOTM at once is extremely rare.
Zilean hasn't been fotm since season 1
Volibear was good in season 3 for like a week and got nerfed. He is seeing competitive play though.
Galio was never really flavor of the month at all if I remember correctly. He was played a lot top/mid in season 1 and 2 but it never reached fotm status.
Then I have my troll picks like Urgot that I'm good with.
So yeah if every single one of those champs become ban worthy I might be 100% screwed in ranked. Also I'm sure soraka will be considered useless after her nerf on the pbe goes live so there is another champ I play that I can use again. lol
Shaco will never be fotm.
I love Shaco, but he is a champion I can never play well no matter how many games I practice with him. =\Kanye West wrote:
Shaco will never be fotm.
If Shaco does ever reach fotm status he will be deleted from the game. Same with stuff like Poppy. LOL
Zilean mid is actually pretty strong, I've played him in ARAM a couple times and with 40% CDR your W (which reduces all your CD's by 10s) will be on a ~3.5s CD = Perma bombs, slows, speed ups and an insanely low CD on your ult = tons of utility and dmg
The only reason I don't play him is that he is very mana hungry and his lasthitting in lane is crappy
His teamfighting isn't as weak as people might think as long as you stay back and put all your stuff on the frontline and let them do stuff. That's probably why he is played more as a support nowadays
The only reason I don't play him is that he is very mana hungry and his lasthitting in lane is crappy
His teamfighting isn't as weak as people might think as long as you stay back and put all your stuff on the frontline and let them do stuff. That's probably why he is played more as a support nowadays
Braum jungle is super viable btw, you just will never get kills lol only like 30+ assists, you're literally a wall that sets up kills
Shaco ap best Shaco. Love Shaco so much. Normal/aram/dominion.Kanye West wrote:
Shaco will never be fotm.
Does anyone remember the mythical champ known as Quinn...?
omg a chinese guy ching chang chong
I don't think he is that good of a support when you compare him to other supports. I don't even remember the last time I saw him as support.BrokenArrow wrote:
Zilean mid is actually pretty strong, I've played him in ARAM a couple times and with 40% CDR your W (which reduces all your CD's by 10s) will be on a ~3.5s CD = Perma bombs, slows, speed ups and an insanely low CD on your ult = tons of utility and dmg
The only reason I don't play him is that he is very mana hungry and his lasthitting in lane is crappy
His teamfighting isn't as weak as people might think as long as you stay back and put all your stuff on the frontline and let them do stuff. That's probably why he is played more as a support nowadays
I pick him when there is multiple hyper carries on my team and I want a safe mid lane champion that isn't Ziggs or Nidalee. His mana cost aren't that bad unless you spam early which you shouldn't be doing. Once you get athenes he is kinda retarded.
He is similar to Orianna which has a good early game super strong mid game and transitions into a utility mage late game. I'm kinda dreading his rework, but he is really outdated as fuck when it comes to mechanics.
Vulf, my friend carried himself from bronze to gold just playing zilean mid/support lol
I don't doubt it. I never said he was weak at all. I've been a Zilean fan since pre-season 1 which he was perma ban status back then.
He is still really good now just outshined by stuff like Orianna.
Zilean is like my 4th most played champion. lol
He is still really good now just outshined by stuff like Orianna.
Zilean is like my 4th most played champion. lol
Download HyperDesktop and never ever take a picture of your screen again pls <3Greyusb wrote:
Does anyone remember the mythical champ known as Quinn...?omg a chinese guy ching chang chong
I was playing at an internet cafe so I didn't really bother to do so ><Eren Yaeger wrote:
Download HyperDesktop and never ever take a picture of your screen again pls <3
Press Print SreenGreyusb wrote:
I was playing at an internet cafe so I didn't really bother to do so ><Eren Yaeger wrote:
Download HyperDesktop and never ever take a picture of your screen again pls <3
4 men rage quit on my last BO game, I don't really know if I'm supposed to laugh or be mad
You are not the only one. Yea.... what can you do.Ninth IX wrote:
4 men rage quit on my last BO game, I don't really know if I'm supposed to laugh or be mad
They seriously need to make some changes to matchmaking. I hate it when i'm on a roll to find out that that's only because i'm versing level 27 and below.
Were you group with anyone?Blaziken wrote:
They seriously need to make some changes to matchmaking. I hate it when i'm on a roll to find out that that's only because i'm versing level 27 and below.
Yeah, but we should still be matched with players of the highest MMR of ours.Eren Yaeger wrote:
Were you group with anyone?Blaziken wrote:
They seriously need to make some changes to matchmaking. I hate it when i'm on a roll to find out that that's only because i'm versing level 27 and below.
This co-commentator with phreak though is so cringe worthy it hurts ;w;
I'm starting a league skype group for those that want a general place for making groups for normals or duo queing, just message me on my skype if anyone is interested in joining
I'm starting a league skype group for those that want a general place for making groups for normals or duo queing, just message me on my skype if anyone is interested in joining
Wow Battle Bunny Riven is in skin sale, it's not like I just bought her 2 days ago
Rito pls
Rito pls
Get Rekt.BrokenArrow wrote:
Wow Battle Bunny Riven is in skin sale, it's not like I just bought her 2 days ago
Rito pls
BrokenArrow wrote:
Wow Battle Bunny Riven is in skin sale, it's not like I just bought her 2 days ago
Rito pls
i am not 100% sure but i think that if you send a ticket that you get the rp difference refunded
Yep, generally if you buy something 2 weeks before it goes on sale they will refund you the difference
You do know there is a calendar for all the sales right?BrokenArrow wrote:
Wow Battle Bunny Riven is in skin sale, it's not like I just bought her 2 days ago
Rito pls
n-no..
$1 more or less doesn't matter to me anyways, I just found the coincidence funny because I only buy skins like twice a year
$1 more or less doesn't matter to me anyways, I just found the coincidence funny because I only buy skins like twice a year
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/s ... e-scheduleBrokenArrow wrote:
n-no..
$1 more or less doesn't matter to me anyways, I just found the coincidence funny because I only buy skins like twice a year
ah nice Mecha Kha'Zix skin inc
even though he is kinda shit since the last nerf
even though he is kinda shit since the last nerf
I remember when I bought mecha kha zix last year the week before he went on sale.
1. I should of got the refund.
2. Every champion I buy with RP gets nerfed somehow or another.
Pantheon got nerfed
Twisted fate got nerfed
Kha Zix got nerfed
Kassadin got nerfed
I'm never getting a caitlyn skin but i'll defo get the Braum Skin.
1. I should of got the refund.
2. Every champion I buy with RP gets nerfed somehow or another.
Pantheon got nerfed
Twisted fate got nerfed
Kha Zix got nerfed
Kassadin got nerfed
I'm never getting a caitlyn skin but i'll defo get the Braum Skin.
He is still good just not op annymoreBrokenArrow wrote:
ah nice Mecha Kha'Zix skin inc
even though he is kinda shit since the last nerf
With how Riot leaves certain things in a broken spot for the longest time the majority of the community thinks "overpowered = viable" now. Just being good at a role doesn't cut it anymore.SoG Tava wrote:
He is still good just not op annymore
Everything is viable in solo queue though you need to work harder with certain champions.
I think Kha'Zix is still one of the top junglers atm.
I liked lane Kha tho, evolving Q into E first
it's pretty hard to get any isolation damage down now so that sucks for me
it's pretty hard to get any isolation damage down now so that sucks for me
I enjoyed evolving W on him the most. Sad that they made it so you can't use W in midair. Dumb nerf that made W unviable.
My friend mains him and from what I've seen he's still very strong. Also I've noticed that jarvan has been wrecking me in top lane even when I build defensively, is he in a really strong spot at the moment or am I just bad?
What are you playing against him? Jarvan has always wrecked early game power houses like Riven in lane even before the buff to his passive.
Just play super tanks like Shen and Malphite against him.
Just play super tanks like Shen and Malphite against him.
Rengar and riven are the only ones I'm playing right now, but since it's normals there is no way for me to counter pick against him D:
If you play draft you can counter pick in normals.Eren Yaeger wrote:
Rengar and riven are the only ones I'm playing right now, but since it's normals there is no way for me to counter pick against him D:
Next year. It went on a while ago.Greyusb wrote:
still waiting for deep terror thresh sale..
omw to plat
thank you based god
thank you based god
This game went a lot better than it should have. Get denied super hard early still win lane because too tanky to give a shit.
We were losing early because of our Fiddle, but our CC won us teamfights which led to an awesome victory.
This team and riot for this pairing.
Not sure if I should cry or laugh when I realized that going full damage on rengar is better than getting a GA and Boots ;w;
That fucking "retrieve data server" error during champions select has to happen during my promo.. fuck me.
End of day 1, post 'em
And that's why I didn't want to grab anyone from Gambit.
And that's why I didn't want to grab anyone from Gambit.
The new rengar skin came out a bit ago, it's pretty damn awesome, you can remove and put on your hood whenever you want 
Yep this is exactly what Ryan Choi builds. Rengar is only viable if you go pure damage and oneshot a carry. GA is useless because if they pop it, you're going to die anyway.Eren Yaeger wrote:
Not sure if I should cry or laugh when I realized that going full damage on rengar is better than getting a GA and Boots ;w;
I don't build like 5 Doran's Blades though I get maybe two, then rush last whisper then tiamat into Sheen then finish my Hydra. The amount of damage I can do early is really strange cause at times I can 100-0 someone in 4 seconds and other times it doesn't even dent them.Kanye West wrote:
Yep this is exactly what Ryan Choi builds. Rengar is only viable if you go pure damage and oneshot a carry. GA is useless because if they pop it, you're going to die anyway.Eren Yaeger wrote:
Not sure if I should cry or laugh when I realized that going full damage on rengar is better than getting a GA and Boots ;w;
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
I always go Vayne. Always. ALWAYS. When I see a Renekton, I will always go Vayne. I mean, I go adc naturally anyway, but if I was partying and a friend wanted to go bot, then I'd give it up and take top. So Renekton is fun to mess around with. I'm not sure, but I always wreck a Renekton with my Vayne. My Vayne is pretty decent, too. I'd recommend that.. at least try it or something.Justykanna wrote:
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
all for the new low price of 5 million RPEren Yaeger wrote:
The new rengar skin came out a bit ago, it's pretty damn awesome, you can remove and put on your hood whenever you want
Eh, I'm generally really bad at ranged champions. I played Vayne a few times when she was free and didn't overly like her. What makes Vayne good against him?Hika wrote:
I always go Vayne. Always. ALWAYS. When I see a Renekton, I will always go Vayne. I mean, I go adc naturally anyway, but if I was partying and a friend wanted to go bot, then I'd give it up and take top. So Renekton is fun to mess around with. I'm not sure, but I always wreck a Renekton with my Vayne. My Vayne is pretty decent, too. I'd recommend that.. at least try it or something.
I'm more so looking for tips to fight him (so I don't lose lane to him EVERY time I need to face him), not as much counter picks.
Play Jax, GeeGeeJustykanna wrote:
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
A friend of mine told me to play Vayne up against a Renekton once and I just kept doing ever since. It's just the generic 'tank vs vayne vayne win l0l' bullshit, honestly. But I play passive until level 6 then go ahead and be a little more aggressive, depending on which side I play on and the team's jungler. It doesn't really take any type of skill, you just have to be smart about farming and staying consistent. I'd just be a little careful if the Renekton was going straight damage (which I doubt would happen), because you don't wanna stay pushed up to tower. You need the advantage to condemn, that's pretty much the way to initiate anything with a Renekton.Justykanna wrote:
Eh, I'm generally really bad at ranged champions. I played Vayne a few times when she was free and didn't overly like her. What makes Vayne good against him?Hika wrote:
I always go Vayne. Always. ALWAYS. When I see a Renekton, I will always go Vayne. I mean, I go adc naturally anyway, but if I was partying and a friend wanted to go bot, then I'd give it up and take top. So Renekton is fun to mess around with. I'm not sure, but I always wreck a Renekton with my Vayne. My Vayne is pretty decent, too. I'd recommend that.. at least try it or something.
I'm more so looking for tips to fight him (so I don't lose lane to him EVERY time I need to face him), not as much counter picks.
Garen is a hard counter to him but he falls off even harder in lategame compared to Renekton so it's not the best pick. To straight up counter him early game you need range or some way to punish his aggression. Basically, pick Ryze, Elise, or Vayne but generally it's a bad idea to pick an earlygame counter to him because they're bad for even worse reasons. Picking Ryze can be bad if your jungler/support don't build tanky. Elise top is worse than jungle and Vayne top dies to jungle ganks easily and if you make a small mistake and get stunned by him you instalose lane.Justykanna wrote:
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
Best way to deal with him is just play a meta toplaner like shyvana, jax, trundle or irelia/jayce if you play it well but they're riskier. Learn to predict his aggression. If his fury bar is red, he is going to initiate a trade on you so get ready to cc and if he uses both his dashes to chase you then punish him for it. Also get good at last hitting under tower, if you can't do this then you will lose lane to him 100% unless he's bad.
Btw picking Vayne top is a bad idea in general because the enemy jungler is going to camp you and you will die to ganks without flash 99 times out of 100 unless you are doublelift.
P r o m i s e s
I tend to play Jayce against Renekton. You may not have the sustain you have, but you harass nicely while in ranged mode and you have 2 escapes. Whenever he just comes up to you to stun, just go into melee mode and knock him away and then harass him from a distance in ranged mode with your Hyper Charge (W ability). However people do say that Jayce gets countered by Renekton, but I don't think it's true.Justykanna wrote:
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
If you can't play Jayce, then take Jax, just farm into late game and be a carrying monster.
Do you have range indicators enabled? That might fix the issue because I've never had this problem when playing Cass.
Let me know if it was any helpful.~
You ain't gonna do shit with Gankplank, Wukong or Malphite 1v1 if Renekton player knows his game. Honestly, don't pick Gankplank at all, he's only good at the moment if you get early kills or in very specific ad-scaling teams against even more certain picks. He's also stupid easy countered by building Tabi and fighting back with anything that has a gapcloser. You can win with him, sure that, just don't expect to win as much as you want if you start climbing the ladder. Malphite and Wukong might outscale towards mid-late game with superior utility but you're very unlikely to cheese through the Renekton lane with them.Justykanna wrote:
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
Irelia is stronger here and is more of a both sided skill matchup rather than the above where you wait for Renekton to ouplay himself and capitalise on that. Start cloth 5 every time. Play passively and get pushed under turret but don't get chunked hard trying to get leftover minions when most of your wave is dead, this shit loses lanes. Don't get hot-headed level 4-5 and keep playing passively keeping trades to a forced minimum. If you go close but noone takes a kill, you should start getting stronger than Renekton towards level 7 or 9.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/20560788#runes 9th page is made specifically to beat or at the very least stand your ground against strong AD laners as Renekton or Pantheon with Irelia or Tryndamere. I know it looks ridiculous. Armor improves healing effectivity. 15% aspd are a lot superior to AD on them, not only because they have autoattack steroids but you can also hit'n'run a lot quicker, be it a minion or a champion. You're not too strong first 2-4 levels without HP runes though. Get at least 1 Doran's Blade on Irelia with this page, I prefer 2.
If everything fails, take teleport into every single Renekton matchup and hope you can do good with your second teleport use, first one likely used to save your lane.
Play Riven.Justykanna wrote:
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
Always play Riven Top Lane
Then troll
Also Irelia's a good pick too if you got early lane presence and dominance
LB hitting tower showed a weird visual effect bug, instead of the usual "magic splash" effect upon hitting the tower with basic AAs, I got the "Flash" icon instead, all flashy with strange colors...
I hate J4 junglers... -_-
It's not that bad if you can dodge his combo.Graciee wrote:
I hate J4 junglers... -_-
Xin Zhao is more annoying than J4. Red buff + gap closer is bs. You're fucked if you don't have flash or escape mechanism.
hahahaha xin zhao e hahahah
so annoying
so annoying
Well . Need to play 1 rank with a friend.
Rekt.
Rekt.
Riven gets super hardcore counter by Renekton I would never lane against him with her ;w;Sonatora wrote:
Play Riven.Justykanna wrote:
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
Always play Riven Top Lane
Then troll
Also Irelia's a good pick too if you got early lane presence and dominance
I love vayne omfg gonna main her
CHALLENGER INC
CHALLENGER INC
Nothing really beats Renekton in the lane phase. Stuff like Ryze and Jax have the potential to beat him after a few levels, but they can still lose to him.Justykanna wrote:
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
Most games make it passed 30 minutes now so you are better off picking something that will not die to him if played properly and has a better late game in team fights.
I've been seeing a lot of Kennen picked against him lately because he is safe and his late game ulti is ridiculous in team fights.
Having a major slump in my gameplay. Incredibly annoying also hampered by people thinking they should farm jungle to get FF stacks, never appearing in lane ever. I need a break from this game. Simply not having fun with any of my mains. Too bad my frustrations simply come back if I take break.
I got 3/0/1 on my Riven vs. Renek top laneEren Yaeger wrote:
Riven gets super hardcore counter by Renekton I would never lane against him with her ;w;
Back then, Riven is super OP
Anyone got tips on how to counter Syndra in mid lane? Every time my team is against her, she just bursts down whoever goes near her :/
Infernocash wrote:
Anyone got tips on how to counter Syndra in mid lane? Every time my team is against her, she just bursts down whoever goes near her :/
IMO a Good Zed can counter Syndra
Zed deals burst physical, which puts you on an advantage
Try it for once
Hard counter huh? I mean. I at least have a chance against him with Garen so I'll take that over saying 'Renekton > All, I'll just lose lane'.Kanye West wrote:
Garen is a hard counter to him but he falls off even harder in lategame compared to Renekton so it's not the best pick. To straight up counter him early game you need range or some way to punish his aggression. Basically, pick Ryze, Elise, or Vayne but generally it's a bad idea to pick an earlygame counter to him because they're bad for even worse reasons. Picking Ryze can be bad if your jungler/support don't build tanky. Elise top is worse than jungle and Vayne top dies to jungle ganks easily and if you make a small mistake and get stunned by him you instalose lane.Justykanna wrote:
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
Best way to deal with him is just play a meta toplaner like shyvana, jax, trundle or irelia/jayce if you play it well but they're riskier. Learn to predict his aggression. If his fury bar is red, he is going to initiate a trade on you so get ready to cc and if he uses both his dashes to chase you then punish him for it. Also get good at last hitting under tower, if you can't do this then you will lose lane to him 100% unless he's bad.
Btw picking Vayne top is a bad idea in general because the enemy jungler is going to camp you and you will die to ganks without flash 99 times out of 100 unless you are doublelift.
Speaking of Elise, I actually never see her anymore? What happened to her that made her fall out of favour... everywhere. lol.
Irelia would be my pick on that list you gave me. How would you predict aggression though? Are you talking player to player? I mean, I know how each of his skills change when each one has 50 Rage, I know how he works.
I can farm under turret with some champions, but even turret doesn't really help me a lot. He can dive. =(
Well, saying x-champion isn't good isn't the solution either. I've always been taught to stick to a small pool of champions and those four happen to be my top laners because I like using them and I'm comfortable with them. Five if you include Garen. Changing the champions to use all the time just because they're good in the meta, without having much skill isn't 'really' a solid solution, is it? =/TKiller wrote:
You ain't gonna do shit with Gankplank, Wukong or Malphite 1v1 if Renekton player knows his game. Honestly, don't pick Gankplank at all, he's only good at the moment if you get early kills or in very specific ad-scaling teams against even more certain picks. He's also stupid easy countered by building Tabi and fighting back with anything that has a gapcloser. You can win with him, sure that, just don't expect to win as much as you want if you start climbing the ladder. Malphite and Wukong might outscale towards mid-late game with superior utility but you're very unlikely to cheese through the Renekton lane with them.Justykanna wrote:
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
Irelia is stronger here and is more of a both sided skill matchup rather than the above where you wait for Renekton to ouplay himself and capitalise on that. Start cloth 5 every time. Play passively and get pushed under turret but don't get chunked hard trying to get leftover minions when most of your wave is dead, this shit loses lanes. Don't get hot-headed level 4-5 and keep playing passively keeping trades to a forced minimum. If you go close but noone takes a kill, you should start getting stronger than Renekton towards level 7 or 9.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/20560788#runes 9th page is made specifically to beat or at the very least stand your ground against strong AD laners as Renekton or Pantheon with Irelia or Tryndamere. I know it looks ridiculous. Armor improves healing effectivity. 15% aspd are a lot superior to AD on them, not only because they have autoattack steroids but you can also hit'n'run a lot quicker, be it a minion or a champion. You're not too strong first 2-4 levels without HP runes though. Get at least 1 Doran's Blade on Irelia with this page, I prefer 2.
If everything fails, take teleport into every single Renekton matchup and hope you can do good with your second teleport use, first one likely used to save your lane.
Especially after telling me "don't pick Gangplank at all" when he's far and away my favourite champion.
Okay, so stay under turrets, avoid engages during all of laning phase? Wouldn't that be complete free farm for him then? I feel like teams wouldn't like that sort of thing. I mean. Giving him free kills is probably worse but still.
Noted. What makes Jax good for him though? Thought he was more meant for fighting auto attackers like Xin Zhao, Tryndamere and to an extent, Gangplank.Vulf wrote:
Nothing really beats Renekton in the lane phase. Stuff like Ryze and Jax have the potential to beat him after a few levels, but they can still lose to him.Justykanna wrote:
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.
Help? =(
Most games make it passed 30 minutes now so you are better off picking something that will not die to him if played properly and has a better late game in team fights.
I've been seeing a lot of Kennen picked against him lately because he is safe and his late game ulti is ridiculous in team fights.
You listed champions, I told you what to expect. Play Gankplank all you want but expect to be stomped by people who know what they're doing.Justykanna wrote:
Well, saying x-champion isn't good isn't the solution either. I've always been taught to stick to a small pool of champions and those four happen to be my top laners because I like using them and I'm comfortable with them. Five if you include Garen. Changing the champions to use all the time just because they're good in the meta, without having much skill isn't 'really' a solid solution, is it? =/
Especially after telling me "don't pick Gangplank at all" when he's far and away my favourite champion.
Okay, so stay under turrets, avoid engages during all of laning phase? Wouldn't that be complete free farm for him then? I feel like teams wouldn't like that sort of thing. I mean. Giving him free kills is probably worse but still.
"Free farming Renekton" is an oxymoron. You won't really deny a champion that has that much resourseless aoe healing through damage.
I forgot to mention that you can max W on Gankplank and sit through the lane and use flat AD + lasthit masteries + some AD runes on Malphite to lasthit more reliably, especially under tower which can lead into more efficient shield usage, a bit hard to explain. But I don't like those since first one makes you lose even more power time with Gankplank who falls off greatly towards late game in any build and using that stuff on Malphite makes you even more team-reliant for damage.
Oh, also Malphite Q is useless during laning phase since early Renekton will outheal it unless you go big on AP and mana pots. And if he builds any magic resist, he will outheal it even if you max it towards level 9. So unless your jungler pays attention to your lane put 3 or at least 2 points into E for waveclear. Still max Q after that since you're more likely to use it on other champions by then.
Anyway, point is Renekton lane 1v1 is mostly about Renekton and not you. If he's doing well and doesn't do stuff like using Q at full health without hitting you or failing to hit W after charging it up, then just focus on scaling yourself into game. You might not even outscale Renekton sometimes but that doesn't stop you from impacting the game.
Well if I faced people who "knew what they were doing", I'd assume they'd be diamond or something. Not Silver 5 with me, lol. Anyways.TKiller wrote:
You listed champions, I told you what to expect. Play Gankplank all you want but expect to be stomped by people who know what they're doing.Justykanna wrote:
Well, saying x-champion isn't good isn't the solution either. I've always been taught to stick to a small pool of champions and those four happen to be my top laners because I like using them and I'm comfortable with them. Five if you include Garen. Changing the champions to use all the time just because they're good in the meta, without having much skill isn't 'really' a solid solution, is it? =/
Especially after telling me "don't pick Gangplank at all" when he's far and away my favourite champion.
Okay, so stay under turrets, avoid engages during all of laning phase? Wouldn't that be complete free farm for him then? I feel like teams wouldn't like that sort of thing. I mean. Giving him free kills is probably worse but still.
"Free farming Renekton" is an oxymoron. You won't really deny a champion that has that much resourseless aoe healing through damage.
I forgot to mention that you can max W on Gankplank and sit through the lane and use flat AD + lasthit masteries + some AD runes on Malphite to lasthit more reliably, especially under tower which can lead into more efficient shield usage, a bit hard to explain. But I don't like those since first one makes you lose even more power time with Gankplank who falls off greatly towards late game in any build and using that stuff on Malphite makes you even more team-reliant for damage.
Oh, also Malphite Q is useless during laning phase since early Renekton will outheal it unless you go big on AP and mana pots. And if he builds any magic resist, he will outheal it even if you max it towards level 9. So unless your jungler pays attention to your lane put 3 or at least 2 points into E for waveclear. Still max Q after that since you're more likely to use it on other champions by then.
Anyway, point is Renekton lane 1v1 is mostly about Renekton and not you. If he's doing well and doesn't do stuff like using Q at full health without hitting you or failing to hit W after charging it up, then just focus on scaling yourself into game. You might not even outscale Renekton sometimes but that doesn't stop you from impacting the game.
I actually started doing that on Gangplank starting two weeks ago out of necessity, since my usual Crit-Plank build wasn't getting me anywhere. Crit-Plank build involved leveling Q first and going for Statikk/Infinity Edge first where as the build I recently swapped to maxes W first and goes either Gauntlet (as dumb as it sounds) or Trinity Force first. It makes early-mid game a little more tolerable. I lose power yeah, but it allows me to sustain a little better since I don't usually get much lifesteal. This all worked for the past week or so but yeah... I'm starting to see less results as I play more (especially against... yeah... Renektons poping up everywhere).
(Added to my frustrations, I played with a buddy of mine whose Silver 3 (two ranks above me), picked Gangplank up a few days ago, and made the Crit-Plank build work and demolished people, then carried a game... Something I can't do with my most played champion anymore using that build.)
Malphite I really only use if my team is screaming for an AP champion. He's stupidly boring to me vs the other top laners I use. But I'm 8-3 in ranked with him so far so hey, results.
Ah, I might have to swap to the E then for Malphite. Never considered that.
People are so focused on laning phases (at least from most of the games I see) that impacting the game (with proper team fights and ultimate usage with Gangplank in the mid game) doesn't really seem to go noticed. I'm not exactly looking for pats on the back, but if you do mediocre or worse in lane, it'd be nice not to catch the added toxicity that already comes from using unpopular champions to begin with. Have a mediocre or worse laning phase -> have decent team fights or global ultimate usage -> get blamed for a loss by two or three people.
Thanks for the help, I do appreciate it.
Dodge skills especially the stun. Poke works too.Infernocash wrote:
Anyone got tips on how to counter Syndra in mid lane? Every time my team is against her, she just bursts down whoever goes near her :/
Syndra is very prone to all-ins. If her stun and ulti are down she is pretty much free food for a lot of things.
also Yasuo
His W still blocks all her shit and he will always be strong if they don't touch his passiveToyface wrote:
Didn't yasuo get nerfed?BrokenArrow wrote:
also Yasuo
P r o m i s e s
BRBP wrote:
I asked for a gank and our nautilus tried to hook over a wall.Played two games as Cass it didn't happen. I'll try a few more games to be sure~BrokenArrow wrote:
Let me know if it was any helpful.~
How to play veigar in silver ranked when you're bored
1,5k AP stronk
#1 build on mobafire i swear to god
Dat Snoop Nasus skin tho. Nice build :p