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Vulf

hi im dragon wrote:

ok thanks for the obvious information?????????????????????????????
Do you have a problem with that?

Someone was asking for help and I gave it.
Stefan

Vulf wrote:

hi im dragon wrote:

ok thanks for the obvious information?????????????????????????????
Do you have a problem with that?

Someone was asking for help and I gave it.
Thank you anyways, just thinking Rylai's passive isn't so useful at her so I am really unsure about this item.
Vulf
I wouldn't say it's a mandatory item for her build, but it's good on her. Just think of it like a second RoA instead of mana you get a bit of utility with a slow.
VoidnOwO
Boris + Kog'Maw freelo
scottyyy
Season 3:

Season 4:

vayne pls :(
hi im dragon

scottyyy wrote:

Season 3:

Season 4:

vayne pls :(
eh tell me about it man

season 3:

season 4:

idk how
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:

The definition of snowbally top laners? The one I always heard were Renekton and Jax.

How haven't you heard of Riven in there as well? Having mained her I know when she gets going she will melt people
Renekton is more of a lane bully that transitions into a tank with a little bit of damage late game. I wouldn't call that snowballing just annoying to lane against.

TKiller wrote:

Had no Renektons in around 20 games. God bless America.
Everyone is playing Jax (when it is't banned) and Ryze is still stupid top. Also Riven and Jarvan are still really good top too.
Ah. Alrighty then. Clearly I dunno what it means to be a snowball champion then.
Yeah, I have zero idea how to fight a Renekton. >_> Tanky, damage, sustain with mobility.

Jax I am starting to see every now and then. Got demolished by a Jarvan IV the other day... His passive does a lot more damage than I remember... D=
It sucks because the champion that I used to rely on for fighting Jax (and Nasus) is Garen... but teams don't like when I use Garen for the purposes of lack of teamfight ability (even if I do well). =(
Eren Yaeger
http://www.twitch.tv/muegetsen/ if anyone wants to see me main riven while I level up for a bit, i'll remove it when I'm done streaming <3
BrokenArrow

Eren Yaeger wrote:

http://www.twitch.tv/muegetsen/ if anyone wants to see me main riven while I level up for a bit, i'll remove it when I'm done streaming <3
Damn you are handsome
[- Alex -]

Eren Yaeger wrote:

http://www.twitch.tv/muegetsen/ if anyone wants to see me main riven while I level up for a bit, i'll remove it when I'm done streaming <3
Dam Riven mains. I hate her so much....
Eren Yaeger

BrokenArrow wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:

http://www.twitch.tv/muegetsen/ if anyone wants to see me main riven while I level up for a bit, i'll remove it when I'm done streaming <3
Damn you are handsome
Oh stop it you <3
hi im dragon
rest in piece thread
tossu
Hi, anyone wanna be friends?;_; Can add tossuyo on EUW if anyone wants to play or something.
VoidnOwO
:oops:
BrokenArrow
Braum is broken as fuck. No kidding.
Foxtrot

BrokenArrow wrote:

Braum is broken as fuck. No kidding.
I am sure everyone is expecting a nerf sooner or later.
Eren Yaeger
How is he broken besides the passive stun? He seems pretty balanced right now from what I've seen, but I main top/mid :P
hi im dragon

Eren Yaeger wrote:

How is he broken besides the passive stun? He seems pretty balanced right now from what I've seen, but I main top/mid :P
._____________________.

have u read his skill set

i doubt
[- Alex -]

hi im dragon wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:

How is he broken besides the passive stun? He seems pretty balanced right now from what I've seen, but I main top/mid :P
._____________________.

have u read his skill set

i doubt
Leona is better !

The most op think about him is the passive.
Blaziken
That shield which negates all my efforts.
All means one Lux ult.
hi im dragon

Blaziken wrote:

That shield which negates all my efforts.
All means one Lux ult.
basically this

and he gets tanky as fucking hell lategame
Yapa_old_1

La Volpe


That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
kirueggy

La Volpe wrote:



That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
how in the hell did a bronze I do so much better than everyone else on opposing
La Volpe
Because our bot lane was losing early game.
Eren Yaeger

La Volpe wrote:



That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
Have you ever heard of a smurf? There is no way that a bronze would out CS and out lane a syndra diamond player as graves lol
La Volpe

Eren Yaeger wrote:

La Volpe wrote:



That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
Have you ever heard of a smurf? There is no way that a bronze would out CS and out lane a syndra diamond player as graves lol
Guess I forgot to mention,it was a normal game. Why would someone smurf on a normal match?
Eren Yaeger

La Volpe wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Have you ever heard of a smurf? There is no way that a bronze would out CS and out lane a syndra diamond player as graves lol
Guess I forgot to mention,it was a normal game. Why would someone smurf on a normal match?
Warmup game, for shits and gigs? Who knows, I just know that a bronze won't beat a diamond lol
tossu
I have let my friends play on my account so they can test champions they don't have, could've been that. Needless to say they got flamed quite a bit for playing awful on d1 account.
Justykanna

La Volpe wrote:



That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
Lawl.
So many differently ranked people in that game...
Vulf
That Syndra only plays like 4 champions in ranked and none of them are mid laners. There are tons and tons of one trick ponies in diamond (I'm one of them).

For example if all the champions I play get banned or picked I will play like a bronze 5 so it's better if I dodge. That very rarely happens though because most stuff I play will never go FOTM.
Sapphiire_old_1

Vulf wrote:

most stuff I play will never go FOTM.
Never say never
[- Alex -]

SoG Tava wrote:

Vulf wrote:

most stuff I play will never go FOTM.
Never say never

Agreed.
tyrael6192
even warwick pretty much went fotm for a couple of minutes
Vulf
Warwick has kinda been fotm twice already, but Riot won't let it stay that way for long.

The odds of all the champions I play going FOTM at once is extremely rare.

Zilean hasn't been fotm since season 1
Volibear was good in season 3 for like a week and got nerfed. He is seeing competitive play though.
Galio was never really flavor of the month at all if I remember correctly. He was played a lot top/mid in season 1 and 2 but it never reached fotm status.

Then I have my troll picks like Urgot that I'm good with.

So yeah if every single one of those champs become ban worthy I might be 100% screwed in ranked. Also I'm sure soraka will be considered useless after her nerf on the pbe goes live so there is another champ I play that I can use again. lol
Kanye West
Shaco will never be fotm.
Vulf

Kanye West wrote:

Shaco will never be fotm.
I love Shaco, but he is a champion I can never play well no matter how many games I practice with him. =\
If Shaco does ever reach fotm status he will be deleted from the game. Same with stuff like Poppy. LOL
BrokenArrow
Zilean mid is actually pretty strong, I've played him in ARAM a couple times and with 40% CDR your W (which reduces all your CD's by 10s) will be on a ~3.5s CD = Perma bombs, slows, speed ups and an insanely low CD on your ult = tons of utility and dmg

The only reason I don't play him is that he is very mana hungry and his lasthitting in lane is crappy
His teamfighting isn't as weak as people might think as long as you stay back and put all your stuff on the frontline and let them do stuff. That's probably why he is played more as a support nowadays
OzzyOzrock
Braum jungle is super viable btw, you just will never get kills lol only like 30+ assists, you're literally a wall that sets up kills
[- Alex -]

Kanye West wrote:

Shaco will never be fotm.
Shaco ap best Shaco. Love Shaco so much. Normal/aram/dominion.
Greyusb
Does anyone remember the mythical champ known as Quinn...?

omg a chinese guy ching chang chong
Vulf

BrokenArrow wrote:

Zilean mid is actually pretty strong, I've played him in ARAM a couple times and with 40% CDR your W (which reduces all your CD's by 10s) will be on a ~3.5s CD = Perma bombs, slows, speed ups and an insanely low CD on your ult = tons of utility and dmg

The only reason I don't play him is that he is very mana hungry and his lasthitting in lane is crappy
His teamfighting isn't as weak as people might think as long as you stay back and put all your stuff on the frontline and let them do stuff. That's probably why he is played more as a support nowadays
I don't think he is that good of a support when you compare him to other supports. I don't even remember the last time I saw him as support.
I pick him when there is multiple hyper carries on my team and I want a safe mid lane champion that isn't Ziggs or Nidalee. His mana cost aren't that bad unless you spam early which you shouldn't be doing. Once you get athenes he is kinda retarded.

He is similar to Orianna which has a good early game super strong mid game and transitions into a utility mage late game. I'm kinda dreading his rework, but he is really outdated as fuck when it comes to mechanics.
Witch Mercy
Vulf, my friend carried himself from bronze to gold just playing zilean mid/support lol
Vulf
I don't doubt it. I never said he was weak at all. I've been a Zilean fan since pre-season 1 which he was perma ban status back then.
He is still really good now just outshined by stuff like Orianna.

Zilean is like my 4th most played champion. lol
Eren Yaeger

Greyusb wrote:

Does anyone remember the mythical champ known as Quinn...?

omg a chinese guy ching chang chong
Download HyperDesktop and never ever take a picture of your screen again pls <3
Greyusb

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Download HyperDesktop and never ever take a picture of your screen again pls <3
I was playing at an internet cafe so I didn't really bother to do so ><
Blaziken

Greyusb wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Download HyperDesktop and never ever take a picture of your screen again pls <3
I was playing at an internet cafe so I didn't really bother to do so ><
Press Print Sreen
Feast
4 men rage quit on my last BO game, I don't really know if I'm supposed to laugh or be mad
[- Alex -]

Ninth IX wrote:

4 men rage quit on my last BO game, I don't really know if I'm supposed to laugh or be mad
You are not the only one. Yea.... what can you do.
Blaziken
They seriously need to make some changes to matchmaking. I hate it when i'm on a roll to find out that that's only because i'm versing level 27 and below.
Eren Yaeger

Blaziken wrote:



They seriously need to make some changes to matchmaking. I hate it when i'm on a roll to find out that that's only because i'm versing level 27 and below.
Were you group with anyone?
Blaziken

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Blaziken wrote:



They seriously need to make some changes to matchmaking. I hate it when i'm on a roll to find out that that's only because i'm versing level 27 and below.
Were you group with anyone?
Yeah, but we should still be matched with players of the highest MMR of ours.
Eren Yaeger
This co-commentator with phreak though is so cringe worthy it hurts ;w;


I'm starting a league skype group for those that want a general place for making groups for normals or duo queing, just message me on my skype if anyone is interested in joining
BrokenArrow
Wow Battle Bunny Riven is in skin sale, it's not like I just bought her 2 days ago
Rito pls
[- Alex -]

BrokenArrow wrote:

Wow Battle Bunny Riven is in skin sale, it's not like I just bought her 2 days ago
Rito pls
Get Rekt.
Sapphiire_old_1

BrokenArrow wrote:

Wow Battle Bunny Riven is in skin sale, it's not like I just bought her 2 days ago
Rito pls

i am not 100% sure but i think that if you send a ticket that you get the rp difference refunded
scottyyy
Yep, generally if you buy something 2 weeks before it goes on sale they will refund you the difference
VoidnOwO
:)
Eren Yaeger

BrokenArrow wrote:

Wow Battle Bunny Riven is in skin sale, it's not like I just bought her 2 days ago
Rito pls
You do know there is a calendar for all the sales right?
BrokenArrow
n-no..
$1 more or less doesn't matter to me anyways, I just found the coincidence funny because I only buy skins like twice a year
Eren Yaeger

BrokenArrow wrote:

n-no..
$1 more or less doesn't matter to me anyways, I just found the coincidence funny because I only buy skins like twice a year
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/s ... e-schedule
BrokenArrow
ah nice Mecha Kha'Zix skin inc
even though he is kinda shit since the last nerf
Blaziken
I remember when I bought mecha kha zix last year the week before he went on sale.
1. I should of got the refund.
2. Every champion I buy with RP gets nerfed somehow or another.

Pantheon got nerfed
Twisted fate got nerfed
Kha Zix got nerfed
Kassadin got nerfed

I'm never getting a caitlyn skin but i'll defo get the Braum Skin.
Sapphiire_old_1

BrokenArrow wrote:

ah nice Mecha Kha'Zix skin inc
even though he is kinda shit since the last nerf
He is still good just not op annymore
Greyusb
still waiting for deep terror thresh sale..
Vulf

SoG Tava wrote:

He is still good just not op annymore
With how Riot leaves certain things in a broken spot for the longest time the majority of the community thinks "overpowered = viable" now. Just being good at a role doesn't cut it anymore.

Everything is viable in solo queue though you need to work harder with certain champions.

I think Kha'Zix is still one of the top junglers atm.
BrokenArrow
I liked lane Kha tho, evolving Q into E first
it's pretty hard to get any isolation damage down now so that sucks for me
Kanye West
I enjoyed evolving W on him the most. Sad that they made it so you can't use W in midair. Dumb nerf that made W unviable.
Eren Yaeger
My friend mains him and from what I've seen he's still very strong. Also I've noticed that jarvan has been wrecking me in top lane even when I build defensively, is he in a really strong spot at the moment or am I just bad?
Vulf
What are you playing against him? Jarvan has always wrecked early game power houses like Riven in lane even before the buff to his passive.
Just play super tanks like Shen and Malphite against him.
Eren Yaeger
Rengar and riven are the only ones I'm playing right now, but since it's normals there is no way for me to counter pick against him D:
Justykanna

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Rengar and riven are the only ones I'm playing right now, but since it's normals there is no way for me to counter pick against him D:
If you play draft you can counter pick in normals.
OzzyOzrock

Greyusb wrote:

still waiting for deep terror thresh sale..
Next year. It went on a while ago.
Jordan
omw to plat

thank you based god
Vulf
This game went a lot better than it should have. Get denied super hard early still win lane because too tanky to give a shit.

La Volpe


We were losing early because of our Fiddle, but our CC won us teamfights which led to an awesome victory.
Cristian


This team and riot for this pairing.
Eren Yaeger

Not sure if I should cry or laugh when I realized that going full damage on rengar is better than getting a GA and Boots ;w;
La Volpe
That fucking "retrieve data server" error during champions select has to happen during my promo.. fuck me.
Cyclohexane
End of day 1, post 'em



And that's why I didn't want to grab anyone from Gambit.
Eren Yaeger
The new rengar skin came out a bit ago, it's pretty damn awesome, you can remove and put on your hood whenever you want :o
Kanye West

Eren Yaeger wrote:


Not sure if I should cry or laugh when I realized that going full damage on rengar is better than getting a GA and Boots ;w;
Yep this is exactly what Ryan Choi builds. Rengar is only viable if you go pure damage and oneshot a carry. GA is useless because if they pop it, you're going to die anyway.
Eren Yaeger

Kanye West wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:


Not sure if I should cry or laugh when I realized that going full damage on rengar is better than getting a GA and Boots ;w;
Yep this is exactly what Ryan Choi builds. Rengar is only viable if you go pure damage and oneshot a carry. GA is useless because if they pop it, you're going to die anyway.
I don't build like 5 Doran's Blades though I get maybe two, then rush last whisper then tiamat into Sheen then finish my Hydra. The amount of damage I can do early is really strange cause at times I can 100-0 someone in 4 seconds and other times it doesn't even dent them.
Justykanna
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
Hika

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
I always go Vayne. Always. ALWAYS. When I see a Renekton, I will always go Vayne. I mean, I go adc naturally anyway, but if I was partying and a friend wanted to go bot, then I'd give it up and take top. So Renekton is fun to mess around with. I'm not sure, but I always wreck a Renekton with my Vayne. My Vayne is pretty decent, too. I'd recommend that.. at least try it or something.
kirueggy

Eren Yaeger wrote:

The new rengar skin came out a bit ago, it's pretty damn awesome, you can remove and put on your hood whenever you want :o
all for the new low price of 5 million RP
Justykanna

Hika wrote:

I always go Vayne. Always. ALWAYS. When I see a Renekton, I will always go Vayne. I mean, I go adc naturally anyway, but if I was partying and a friend wanted to go bot, then I'd give it up and take top. So Renekton is fun to mess around with. I'm not sure, but I always wreck a Renekton with my Vayne. My Vayne is pretty decent, too. I'd recommend that.. at least try it or something.
Eh, I'm generally really bad at ranged champions. I played Vayne a few times when she was free and didn't overly like her. What makes Vayne good against him?
I'm more so looking for tips to fight him (so I don't lose lane to him EVERY time I need to face him), not as much counter picks.
Eren Yaeger

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
Play Jax, GeeGee
Hika

Justykanna wrote:

Hika wrote:

I always go Vayne. Always. ALWAYS. When I see a Renekton, I will always go Vayne. I mean, I go adc naturally anyway, but if I was partying and a friend wanted to go bot, then I'd give it up and take top. So Renekton is fun to mess around with. I'm not sure, but I always wreck a Renekton with my Vayne. My Vayne is pretty decent, too. I'd recommend that.. at least try it or something.
Eh, I'm generally really bad at ranged champions. I played Vayne a few times when she was free and didn't overly like her. What makes Vayne good against him?
I'm more so looking for tips to fight him (so I don't lose lane to him EVERY time I need to face him), not as much counter picks.
A friend of mine told me to play Vayne up against a Renekton once and I just kept doing ever since. It's just the generic 'tank vs vayne vayne win l0l' bullshit, honestly. But I play passive until level 6 then go ahead and be a little more aggressive, depending on which side I play on and the team's jungler. It doesn't really take any type of skill, you just have to be smart about farming and staying consistent. I'd just be a little careful if the Renekton was going straight damage (which I doubt would happen), because you don't wanna stay pushed up to tower. You need the advantage to condemn, that's pretty much the way to initiate anything with a Renekton.
Kanye West

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
Garen is a hard counter to him but he falls off even harder in lategame compared to Renekton so it's not the best pick. To straight up counter him early game you need range or some way to punish his aggression. Basically, pick Ryze, Elise, or Vayne but generally it's a bad idea to pick an earlygame counter to him because they're bad for even worse reasons. Picking Ryze can be bad if your jungler/support don't build tanky. Elise top is worse than jungle and Vayne top dies to jungle ganks easily and if you make a small mistake and get stunned by him you instalose lane.

Best way to deal with him is just play a meta toplaner like shyvana, jax, trundle or irelia/jayce if you play it well but they're riskier. Learn to predict his aggression. If his fury bar is red, he is going to initiate a trade on you so get ready to cc and if he uses both his dashes to chase you then punish him for it. Also get good at last hitting under tower, if you can't do this then you will lose lane to him 100% unless he's bad.

Btw picking Vayne top is a bad idea in general because the enemy jungler is going to camp you and you will die to ganks without flash 99 times out of 100 unless you are doublelift.
P r o m i s e s

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
I tend to play Jayce against Renekton. You may not have the sustain you have, but you harass nicely while in ranged mode and you have 2 escapes. Whenever he just comes up to you to stun, just go into melee mode and knock him away and then harass him from a distance in ranged mode with your Hyper Charge (W ability). However people do say that Jayce gets countered by Renekton, but I don't think it's true.
If you can't play Jayce, then take Jax, just farm into late game and be a carrying monster.
VoidnOwO
:oops:
BrokenArrow
Do you have range indicators enabled? That might fix the issue because I've never had this problem when playing Cass.
VoidnOwO
:oops:
BrokenArrow
Let me know if it was any helpful.~
TKiller

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
You ain't gonna do shit with Gankplank, Wukong or Malphite 1v1 if Renekton player knows his game. Honestly, don't pick Gankplank at all, he's only good at the moment if you get early kills or in very specific ad-scaling teams against even more certain picks. He's also stupid easy countered by building Tabi and fighting back with anything that has a gapcloser. You can win with him, sure that, just don't expect to win as much as you want if you start climbing the ladder. Malphite and Wukong might outscale towards mid-late game with superior utility but you're very unlikely to cheese through the Renekton lane with them.

Irelia is stronger here and is more of a both sided skill matchup rather than the above where you wait for Renekton to ouplay himself and capitalise on that. Start cloth 5 every time. Play passively and get pushed under turret but don't get chunked hard trying to get leftover minions when most of your wave is dead, this shit loses lanes. Don't get hot-headed level 4-5 and keep playing passively keeping trades to a forced minimum. If you go close but noone takes a kill, you should start getting stronger than Renekton towards level 7 or 9.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/20560788#runes 9th page is made specifically to beat or at the very least stand your ground against strong AD laners as Renekton or Pantheon with Irelia or Tryndamere. I know it looks ridiculous. Armor improves healing effectivity. 15% aspd are a lot superior to AD on them, not only because they have autoattack steroids but you can also hit'n'run a lot quicker, be it a minion or a champion. You're not too strong first 2-4 levels without HP runes though. Get at least 1 Doran's Blade on Irelia with this page, I prefer 2.

If everything fails, take teleport into every single Renekton matchup and hope you can do good with your second teleport use, first one likely used to save your lane.
AutoMedic

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
Play Riven.

Always play Riven Top Lane

Then troll

Also Irelia's a good pick too if you got early lane presence and dominance
PyaKura
LB hitting tower showed a weird visual effect bug, instead of the usual "magic splash" effect upon hitting the tower with basic AAs, I got the "Flash" icon instead, all flashy with strange colors...
Witch Mercy
I hate J4 junglers... -_-
La Volpe

Graciee wrote:

I hate J4 junglers... -_-
It's not that bad if you can dodge his combo.
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