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BrokenArrow
ah nice Mecha Kha'Zix skin inc
even though he is kinda shit since the last nerf
Blaziken
I remember when I bought mecha kha zix last year the week before he went on sale.
1. I should of got the refund.
2. Every champion I buy with RP gets nerfed somehow or another.

Pantheon got nerfed
Twisted fate got nerfed
Kha Zix got nerfed
Kassadin got nerfed

I'm never getting a caitlyn skin but i'll defo get the Braum Skin.
Sapphiire_old_1

BrokenArrow wrote:

ah nice Mecha Kha'Zix skin inc
even though he is kinda shit since the last nerf
He is still good just not op annymore
Greyusb
still waiting for deep terror thresh sale..
Vulf

SoG Tava wrote:

He is still good just not op annymore
With how Riot leaves certain things in a broken spot for the longest time the majority of the community thinks "overpowered = viable" now. Just being good at a role doesn't cut it anymore.

Everything is viable in solo queue though you need to work harder with certain champions.

I think Kha'Zix is still one of the top junglers atm.
BrokenArrow
I liked lane Kha tho, evolving Q into E first
it's pretty hard to get any isolation damage down now so that sucks for me
Kanye West
I enjoyed evolving W on him the most. Sad that they made it so you can't use W in midair. Dumb nerf that made W unviable.
Eren Yaeger
My friend mains him and from what I've seen he's still very strong. Also I've noticed that jarvan has been wrecking me in top lane even when I build defensively, is he in a really strong spot at the moment or am I just bad?
Vulf
What are you playing against him? Jarvan has always wrecked early game power houses like Riven in lane even before the buff to his passive.
Just play super tanks like Shen and Malphite against him.
Eren Yaeger
Rengar and riven are the only ones I'm playing right now, but since it's normals there is no way for me to counter pick against him D:
Justykanna

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Rengar and riven are the only ones I'm playing right now, but since it's normals there is no way for me to counter pick against him D:
If you play draft you can counter pick in normals.
OzzyOzrock

Greyusb wrote:

still waiting for deep terror thresh sale..
Next year. It went on a while ago.
Jordan
omw to plat

thank you based god
Vulf
This game went a lot better than it should have. Get denied super hard early still win lane because too tanky to give a shit.

La Volpe


We were losing early because of our Fiddle, but our CC won us teamfights which led to an awesome victory.
Cristian


This team and riot for this pairing.
Eren Yaeger

Not sure if I should cry or laugh when I realized that going full damage on rengar is better than getting a GA and Boots ;w;
La Volpe
That fucking "retrieve data server" error during champions select has to happen during my promo.. fuck me.
Cyclohexane
End of day 1, post 'em



And that's why I didn't want to grab anyone from Gambit.
Eren Yaeger
The new rengar skin came out a bit ago, it's pretty damn awesome, you can remove and put on your hood whenever you want :o
Kanye West

Eren Yaeger wrote:


Not sure if I should cry or laugh when I realized that going full damage on rengar is better than getting a GA and Boots ;w;
Yep this is exactly what Ryan Choi builds. Rengar is only viable if you go pure damage and oneshot a carry. GA is useless because if they pop it, you're going to die anyway.
Eren Yaeger

Kanye West wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:


Not sure if I should cry or laugh when I realized that going full damage on rengar is better than getting a GA and Boots ;w;
Yep this is exactly what Ryan Choi builds. Rengar is only viable if you go pure damage and oneshot a carry. GA is useless because if they pop it, you're going to die anyway.
I don't build like 5 Doran's Blades though I get maybe two, then rush last whisper then tiamat into Sheen then finish my Hydra. The amount of damage I can do early is really strange cause at times I can 100-0 someone in 4 seconds and other times it doesn't even dent them.
Justykanna
So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
Hika

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
I always go Vayne. Always. ALWAYS. When I see a Renekton, I will always go Vayne. I mean, I go adc naturally anyway, but if I was partying and a friend wanted to go bot, then I'd give it up and take top. So Renekton is fun to mess around with. I'm not sure, but I always wreck a Renekton with my Vayne. My Vayne is pretty decent, too. I'd recommend that.. at least try it or something.
kirueggy

Eren Yaeger wrote:

The new rengar skin came out a bit ago, it's pretty damn awesome, you can remove and put on your hood whenever you want :o
all for the new low price of 5 million RP
Justykanna

Hika wrote:

I always go Vayne. Always. ALWAYS. When I see a Renekton, I will always go Vayne. I mean, I go adc naturally anyway, but if I was partying and a friend wanted to go bot, then I'd give it up and take top. So Renekton is fun to mess around with. I'm not sure, but I always wreck a Renekton with my Vayne. My Vayne is pretty decent, too. I'd recommend that.. at least try it or something.
Eh, I'm generally really bad at ranged champions. I played Vayne a few times when she was free and didn't overly like her. What makes Vayne good against him?
I'm more so looking for tips to fight him (so I don't lose lane to him EVERY time I need to face him), not as much counter picks.
Eren Yaeger

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
Play Jax, GeeGee
Hika

Justykanna wrote:

Hika wrote:

I always go Vayne. Always. ALWAYS. When I see a Renekton, I will always go Vayne. I mean, I go adc naturally anyway, but if I was partying and a friend wanted to go bot, then I'd give it up and take top. So Renekton is fun to mess around with. I'm not sure, but I always wreck a Renekton with my Vayne. My Vayne is pretty decent, too. I'd recommend that.. at least try it or something.
Eh, I'm generally really bad at ranged champions. I played Vayne a few times when she was free and didn't overly like her. What makes Vayne good against him?
I'm more so looking for tips to fight him (so I don't lose lane to him EVERY time I need to face him), not as much counter picks.
A friend of mine told me to play Vayne up against a Renekton once and I just kept doing ever since. It's just the generic 'tank vs vayne vayne win l0l' bullshit, honestly. But I play passive until level 6 then go ahead and be a little more aggressive, depending on which side I play on and the team's jungler. It doesn't really take any type of skill, you just have to be smart about farming and staying consistent. I'd just be a little careful if the Renekton was going straight damage (which I doubt would happen), because you don't wanna stay pushed up to tower. You need the advantage to condemn, that's pretty much the way to initiate anything with a Renekton.
Kanye West

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
Garen is a hard counter to him but he falls off even harder in lategame compared to Renekton so it's not the best pick. To straight up counter him early game you need range or some way to punish his aggression. Basically, pick Ryze, Elise, or Vayne but generally it's a bad idea to pick an earlygame counter to him because they're bad for even worse reasons. Picking Ryze can be bad if your jungler/support don't build tanky. Elise top is worse than jungle and Vayne top dies to jungle ganks easily and if you make a small mistake and get stunned by him you instalose lane.

Best way to deal with him is just play a meta toplaner like shyvana, jax, trundle or irelia/jayce if you play it well but they're riskier. Learn to predict his aggression. If his fury bar is red, he is going to initiate a trade on you so get ready to cc and if he uses both his dashes to chase you then punish him for it. Also get good at last hitting under tower, if you can't do this then you will lose lane to him 100% unless he's bad.

Btw picking Vayne top is a bad idea in general because the enemy jungler is going to camp you and you will die to ganks without flash 99 times out of 100 unless you are doublelift.
P r o m i s e s

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
I tend to play Jayce against Renekton. You may not have the sustain you have, but you harass nicely while in ranged mode and you have 2 escapes. Whenever he just comes up to you to stun, just go into melee mode and knock him away and then harass him from a distance in ranged mode with your Hyper Charge (W ability). However people do say that Jayce gets countered by Renekton, but I don't think it's true.
If you can't play Jayce, then take Jax, just farm into late game and be a carrying monster.
VoidnOwO
:oops:
BrokenArrow
Do you have range indicators enabled? That might fix the issue because I've never had this problem when playing Cass.
VoidnOwO
:oops:
BrokenArrow
Let me know if it was any helpful.~
TKiller

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
You ain't gonna do shit with Gankplank, Wukong or Malphite 1v1 if Renekton player knows his game. Honestly, don't pick Gankplank at all, he's only good at the moment if you get early kills or in very specific ad-scaling teams against even more certain picks. He's also stupid easy countered by building Tabi and fighting back with anything that has a gapcloser. You can win with him, sure that, just don't expect to win as much as you want if you start climbing the ladder. Malphite and Wukong might outscale towards mid-late game with superior utility but you're very unlikely to cheese through the Renekton lane with them.

Irelia is stronger here and is more of a both sided skill matchup rather than the above where you wait for Renekton to ouplay himself and capitalise on that. Start cloth 5 every time. Play passively and get pushed under turret but don't get chunked hard trying to get leftover minions when most of your wave is dead, this shit loses lanes. Don't get hot-headed level 4-5 and keep playing passively keeping trades to a forced minimum. If you go close but noone takes a kill, you should start getting stronger than Renekton towards level 7 or 9.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/20560788#runes 9th page is made specifically to beat or at the very least stand your ground against strong AD laners as Renekton or Pantheon with Irelia or Tryndamere. I know it looks ridiculous. Armor improves healing effectivity. 15% aspd are a lot superior to AD on them, not only because they have autoattack steroids but you can also hit'n'run a lot quicker, be it a minion or a champion. You're not too strong first 2-4 levels without HP runes though. Get at least 1 Doran's Blade on Irelia with this page, I prefer 2.

If everything fails, take teleport into every single Renekton matchup and hope you can do good with your second teleport use, first one likely used to save your lane.
AutoMedic

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
Play Riven.

Always play Riven Top Lane

Then troll

Also Irelia's a good pick too if you got early lane presence and dominance
PyaKura
LB hitting tower showed a weird visual effect bug, instead of the usual "magic splash" effect upon hitting the tower with basic AAs, I got the "Flash" icon instead, all flashy with strange colors...
Witch Mercy
I hate J4 junglers... -_-
La Volpe

Graciee wrote:

I hate J4 junglers... -_-
It's not that bad if you can dodge his combo.
Navizel
Xin Zhao is more annoying than J4. Red buff + gap closer is bs. You're fucked if you don't have flash or escape mechanism.
Hika
hahahaha xin zhao e hahahah

so annoying
[- Alex -]
Well . Need to play 1 rank with a friend.



Rekt.
Eren Yaeger

Sonatora wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
Play Riven.

Always play Riven Top Lane

Then troll

Also Irelia's a good pick too if you got early lane presence and dominance
Riven gets super hardcore counter by Renekton I would never lane against him with her ;w;
Jordan
I love vayne omfg gonna main her

CHALLENGER INC
Vulf

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
Nothing really beats Renekton in the lane phase. Stuff like Ryze and Jax have the potential to beat him after a few levels, but they can still lose to him.
Most games make it passed 30 minutes now so you are better off picking something that will not die to him if played properly and has a better late game in team fights.

I've been seeing a lot of Kennen picked against him lately because he is safe and his late game ulti is ridiculous in team fights.
HighSee
Having a major slump in my gameplay. Incredibly annoying also hampered by people thinking they should farm jungle to get FF stacks, never appearing in lane ever. I need a break from this game. Simply not having fun with any of my mains. Too bad my frustrations simply come back if I take break.
AutoMedic

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Riven gets super hardcore counter by Renekton I would never lane against him with her ;w;
I got 3/0/1 on my Riven vs. Renek top lane

Back then, Riven is super OP
Infernocash
Anyone got tips on how to counter Syndra in mid lane? Every time my team is against her, she just bursts down whoever goes near her :/
AutoMedic

Infernocash wrote:

Anyone got tips on how to counter Syndra in mid lane? Every time my team is against her, she just bursts down whoever goes near her :/

IMO a Good Zed can counter Syndra

Zed deals burst physical, which puts you on an advantage

Try it for once
Justykanna

Kanye West wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
Garen is a hard counter to him but he falls off even harder in lategame compared to Renekton so it's not the best pick. To straight up counter him early game you need range or some way to punish his aggression. Basically, pick Ryze, Elise, or Vayne but generally it's a bad idea to pick an earlygame counter to him because they're bad for even worse reasons. Picking Ryze can be bad if your jungler/support don't build tanky. Elise top is worse than jungle and Vayne top dies to jungle ganks easily and if you make a small mistake and get stunned by him you instalose lane.

Best way to deal with him is just play a meta toplaner like shyvana, jax, trundle or irelia/jayce if you play it well but they're riskier. Learn to predict his aggression. If his fury bar is red, he is going to initiate a trade on you so get ready to cc and if he uses both his dashes to chase you then punish him for it. Also get good at last hitting under tower, if you can't do this then you will lose lane to him 100% unless he's bad.

Btw picking Vayne top is a bad idea in general because the enemy jungler is going to camp you and you will die to ganks without flash 99 times out of 100 unless you are doublelift.
Hard counter huh? I mean. I at least have a chance against him with Garen so I'll take that over saying 'Renekton > All, I'll just lose lane'.
Speaking of Elise, I actually never see her anymore? What happened to her that made her fall out of favour... everywhere. lol.
Irelia would be my pick on that list you gave me. How would you predict aggression though? Are you talking player to player? I mean, I know how each of his skills change when each one has 50 Rage, I know how he works.
I can farm under turret with some champions, but even turret doesn't really help me a lot. He can dive. =(

TKiller wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
You ain't gonna do shit with Gankplank, Wukong or Malphite 1v1 if Renekton player knows his game. Honestly, don't pick Gankplank at all, he's only good at the moment if you get early kills or in very specific ad-scaling teams against even more certain picks. He's also stupid easy countered by building Tabi and fighting back with anything that has a gapcloser. You can win with him, sure that, just don't expect to win as much as you want if you start climbing the ladder. Malphite and Wukong might outscale towards mid-late game with superior utility but you're very unlikely to cheese through the Renekton lane with them.

Irelia is stronger here and is more of a both sided skill matchup rather than the above where you wait for Renekton to ouplay himself and capitalise on that. Start cloth 5 every time. Play passively and get pushed under turret but don't get chunked hard trying to get leftover minions when most of your wave is dead, this shit loses lanes. Don't get hot-headed level 4-5 and keep playing passively keeping trades to a forced minimum. If you go close but noone takes a kill, you should start getting stronger than Renekton towards level 7 or 9.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/20560788#runes 9th page is made specifically to beat or at the very least stand your ground against strong AD laners as Renekton or Pantheon with Irelia or Tryndamere. I know it looks ridiculous. Armor improves healing effectivity. 15% aspd are a lot superior to AD on them, not only because they have autoattack steroids but you can also hit'n'run a lot quicker, be it a minion or a champion. You're not too strong first 2-4 levels without HP runes though. Get at least 1 Doran's Blade on Irelia with this page, I prefer 2.

If everything fails, take teleport into every single Renekton matchup and hope you can do good with your second teleport use, first one likely used to save your lane.
Well, saying x-champion isn't good isn't the solution either. I've always been taught to stick to a small pool of champions and those four happen to be my top laners because I like using them and I'm comfortable with them. Five if you include Garen. Changing the champions to use all the time just because they're good in the meta, without having much skill isn't 'really' a solid solution, is it? =/
Especially after telling me "don't pick Gangplank at all" when he's far and away my favourite champion.
Okay, so stay under turrets, avoid engages during all of laning phase? Wouldn't that be complete free farm for him then? I feel like teams wouldn't like that sort of thing. I mean. Giving him free kills is probably worse but still.

Vulf wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

So, serious question.
How do you lane against a Renekton? Seeing them everywhere left and right and always losing.
I can't reliably fight him with any of my top laners except Garen (and even then it's a coin flip), and I have several teams that don't like Garens because of lack of team fight ability. I never win lane against one. My main top laners are Gangplank, Irelia and Malphite, sometimes Wukong.

Help? =(
Nothing really beats Renekton in the lane phase. Stuff like Ryze and Jax have the potential to beat him after a few levels, but they can still lose to him.
Most games make it passed 30 minutes now so you are better off picking something that will not die to him if played properly and has a better late game in team fights.

I've been seeing a lot of Kennen picked against him lately because he is safe and his late game ulti is ridiculous in team fights.
Noted. What makes Jax good for him though? Thought he was more meant for fighting auto attackers like Xin Zhao, Tryndamere and to an extent, Gangplank.
TKiller

Justykanna wrote:

Well, saying x-champion isn't good isn't the solution either. I've always been taught to stick to a small pool of champions and those four happen to be my top laners because I like using them and I'm comfortable with them. Five if you include Garen. Changing the champions to use all the time just because they're good in the meta, without having much skill isn't 'really' a solid solution, is it? =/
Especially after telling me "don't pick Gangplank at all" when he's far and away my favourite champion.
Okay, so stay under turrets, avoid engages during all of laning phase? Wouldn't that be complete free farm for him then? I feel like teams wouldn't like that sort of thing. I mean. Giving him free kills is probably worse but still.
You listed champions, I told you what to expect. Play Gankplank all you want but expect to be stomped by people who know what they're doing.

"Free farming Renekton" is an oxymoron. You won't really deny a champion that has that much resourseless aoe healing through damage.

I forgot to mention that you can max W on Gankplank and sit through the lane and use flat AD + lasthit masteries + some AD runes on Malphite to lasthit more reliably, especially under tower which can lead into more efficient shield usage, a bit hard to explain. But I don't like those since first one makes you lose even more power time with Gankplank who falls off greatly towards late game in any build and using that stuff on Malphite makes you even more team-reliant for damage.

Oh, also Malphite Q is useless during laning phase since early Renekton will outheal it unless you go big on AP and mana pots. And if he builds any magic resist, he will outheal it even if you max it towards level 9. So unless your jungler pays attention to your lane put 3 or at least 2 points into E for waveclear. Still max Q after that since you're more likely to use it on other champions by then.

Anyway, point is Renekton lane 1v1 is mostly about Renekton and not you. If he's doing well and doesn't do stuff like using Q at full health without hitting you or failing to hit W after charging it up, then just focus on scaling yourself into game. You might not even outscale Renekton sometimes but that doesn't stop you from impacting the game.
Justykanna

TKiller wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

Well, saying x-champion isn't good isn't the solution either. I've always been taught to stick to a small pool of champions and those four happen to be my top laners because I like using them and I'm comfortable with them. Five if you include Garen. Changing the champions to use all the time just because they're good in the meta, without having much skill isn't 'really' a solid solution, is it? =/
Especially after telling me "don't pick Gangplank at all" when he's far and away my favourite champion.
Okay, so stay under turrets, avoid engages during all of laning phase? Wouldn't that be complete free farm for him then? I feel like teams wouldn't like that sort of thing. I mean. Giving him free kills is probably worse but still.
You listed champions, I told you what to expect. Play Gankplank all you want but expect to be stomped by people who know what they're doing.

"Free farming Renekton" is an oxymoron. You won't really deny a champion that has that much resourseless aoe healing through damage.

I forgot to mention that you can max W on Gankplank and sit through the lane and use flat AD + lasthit masteries + some AD runes on Malphite to lasthit more reliably, especially under tower which can lead into more efficient shield usage, a bit hard to explain. But I don't like those since first one makes you lose even more power time with Gankplank who falls off greatly towards late game in any build and using that stuff on Malphite makes you even more team-reliant for damage.

Oh, also Malphite Q is useless during laning phase since early Renekton will outheal it unless you go big on AP and mana pots. And if he builds any magic resist, he will outheal it even if you max it towards level 9. So unless your jungler pays attention to your lane put 3 or at least 2 points into E for waveclear. Still max Q after that since you're more likely to use it on other champions by then.

Anyway, point is Renekton lane 1v1 is mostly about Renekton and not you. If he's doing well and doesn't do stuff like using Q at full health without hitting you or failing to hit W after charging it up, then just focus on scaling yourself into game. You might not even outscale Renekton sometimes but that doesn't stop you from impacting the game.
Well if I faced people who "knew what they were doing", I'd assume they'd be diamond or something. Not Silver 5 with me, lol. Anyways.

I actually started doing that on Gangplank starting two weeks ago out of necessity, since my usual Crit-Plank build wasn't getting me anywhere. Crit-Plank build involved leveling Q first and going for Statikk/Infinity Edge first where as the build I recently swapped to maxes W first and goes either Gauntlet (as dumb as it sounds) or Trinity Force first. It makes early-mid game a little more tolerable. I lose power yeah, but it allows me to sustain a little better since I don't usually get much lifesteal. This all worked for the past week or so but yeah... I'm starting to see less results as I play more (especially against... yeah... Renektons poping up everywhere).
(Added to my frustrations, I played with a buddy of mine whose Silver 3 (two ranks above me), picked Gangplank up a few days ago, and made the Crit-Plank build work and demolished people, then carried a game... Something I can't do with my most played champion anymore using that build.)

Malphite I really only use if my team is screaming for an AP champion. He's stupidly boring to me vs the other top laners I use. But I'm 8-3 in ranked with him so far so hey, results.
Ah, I might have to swap to the E then for Malphite. Never considered that.

People are so focused on laning phases (at least from most of the games I see) that impacting the game (with proper team fights and ultimate usage with Gangplank in the mid game) doesn't really seem to go noticed. I'm not exactly looking for pats on the back, but if you do mediocre or worse in lane, it'd be nice not to catch the added toxicity that already comes from using unpopular champions to begin with. Have a mediocre or worse laning phase -> have decent team fights or global ultimate usage -> get blamed for a loss by two or three people.

Thanks for the help, I do appreciate it.
Navizel

Infernocash wrote:

Anyone got tips on how to counter Syndra in mid lane? Every time my team is against her, she just bursts down whoever goes near her :/
Dodge skills especially the stun. Poke works too.
Vulf
Syndra is very prone to all-ins. If her stun and ulti are down she is pretty much free food for a lot of things.
BrokenArrow
also Yasuo
Toyface

BrokenArrow wrote:

also Yasuo
Didn't yasuo get nerfed?
BrokenArrow

Toyface wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

also Yasuo
Didn't yasuo get nerfed?
His W still blocks all her shit and he will always be strong if they don't touch his passive
VoidnOwO
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BRBP wrote:

How to play veigar in silver ranked when you're bored
1,5k AP stronk
#1 build on mobafire i swear to god
HAHA, nice
[- Alex -]

BRBP wrote:

I asked for a gank and our nautilus tried to hook over a wall.


BrokenArrow wrote:

Let me know if it was any helpful.~
Played two games as Cass it didn't happen. I'll try a few more games to be sure~



How to play veigar in silver ranked when you're bored
1,5k AP stronk
#1 build on mobafire i swear to god

Dat Snoop Nasus skin tho. Nice build :p
La Volpe
Damn I love Sivir.<3

HighSee
Sivir a scary mofo when done right.
VoidnOwO
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[- Alex -]

BRBP wrote:

o_o I got the green great teammate tag next to my name on lobbies.
Sweet



one day after my chat restriction ended lol
does that mean I'm both loved and hated
Wait? Do they still exist? (the red/green/etc tags.)

My red one is gone for some time ;_;
Kanye West
Dade is such a god on this patch. Wow.
VoidnOwO

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Wait? Do they still exist? (the red/green/etc tags.)

My red one is gone for some time ;_;
Well I found this.


if your ribbon goes away because you did not continue to earn enough honor to maintain it
Vulf
The honor system is one of the worst and most pointless things they have added.
If you want to reward people for good behavior this isn't the way to do it.

I only see the Ribbons in bot matches now.
VoidnOwO
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Witch Mercy
I hate yasuo's shield... -_-
BrokenArrow


Yay I am winning games again
Seriously tho, there are at least 2 afks in every game I play on this account, how do new players even like this game
Feast
Yeah & 90% of the people at this level are smurfs loving to destroy newbies, so I'm wondering how can they like the game too.

I don't remember that I had smurfs in my games when I began & if I had to begin now I would just unistall after 2 games
Vulf

BRBP wrote:

Why bot matches, you mean those level 1-10 newbie games where everyone honors everyone? I only play ranked (700 games this season ._.) and some random 3v3 games and I've seen a dozen of them, mostly that teamwork one, though.

A ribbon is better than nothing if they want to somehow award for good behavior. If they gave an actual IP/RP reward or something useful everyone would just trade honors.
Everyone honors each other in bot games. Doesn't matter what level you are.

It might as well be nothing at this point since they are extremely rare and even if you get one you'll lose it in a week or so. The system is pointless and DOES NOT promote good behavior which is the point of a system like that.

There really is no way to implement a good behavior system (smite has a good one which I explain in a second) without it being abused, therefore they should work on better methods to deal with the toxic players like dota 2's prisoner island MM for example.

Smite has a pretty good system that both punishes and rewards bad/good people. It's called the Goodwill system.
Basically it's a percentage and you start at around 50% (I think? I'm not a dick in game so I've had 100% since the system was implemented like a year ago).
100% = Extra Favor (IP equivalent in League) for playing games.
0% = You are put into a matchmaking queue with other players that have low goodwill and you also can not play ranked games if you fall below 50%. Basically if you rage and leave games all the time you are pretty much screwed. inb4 what if I get troll reported? Getting a 1 report every few games isn't going to screw you over and premades can't really abuse this either.

Other MOBA's have figured it out I'm not sure why it's so hard for LoL other than they are lazy.
BrokenArrow
You start at 100% in the beginning, just to correct you on that
But yeah I agree, that system is pretty nice

ninjaedit
Vulf
Yeah I couldn't remember since I've been at 100% for a very very long time. Basically since they added that system.
VoidnOwO
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Graciee wrote:

I hate yasuo's shield... -_-
I play Yasuo very often

It's pretty hard to pull off a great wall

unless enemy lucian is dumb enough
TKiller
Those OGN teamfight breakdown were pretty fun to watch.
TKiller
*checking CS post game*



Yep, it's Sunday all right.
Vulf

BRBP wrote:

Vulf wrote:

Everyone honors each other in bot games. Doesn't matter what level you are.
oh, ok. I just had no idea people actually play bot games after they get lv. 3/5 to unlock PvP lol. I played one 2v5 bot game against 5 intermediate bots to test the AI update they did a while ago, it wasn't even difficult to win. I don't see the point of playing bot games :roll:

Vulf wrote:

Smite stuff
Well that sounds better than a ribbon...
I have like 800 bot games played lol. Easy, fast, stress, free first win of the day.

There are a lot of things in both Dota 2 and Smite that I wish league would consider, but why would they waste time on stuff like that when they can invest more of those resources into their precious e-sports. =\
scottyyy
I would be so happy if they put voice chat in league
Cyclohexane
Man do I love seeing Cloud 9 lose


that balls teleport was literally level-10-and-below tier
La Volpe
Enemy team surrendering right before destroying our Nexus.. never gets old lmao.
Navizel
Seraph though. I just hope he will improve.
tossu

Navizel wrote:

Seraph though. I just hope he will improve.
Link had quite disappointing game as well.
Feast
Someone in the chat said that Seraph should have a lot of pressure on his shoulders & I agree with that. Hopefully he will improve after playing a bit more in the LCS & get use to it.

LMQ 4-0 tho, the dream !
f i z i k

tossu wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Seraph though. I just hope he will improve.
Link had quite disappointing game as well.
Link was fucking amazing this whole week,his laning phase is the best out of any mid in NA right now
Seraph just gets fucked by every level 1/2 in every single game lol,he's just unlucky right now and they will need 4 weeks and then they will wreck everyone
tossu

f i z i k wrote:

Link was fucking amazing this whole week,his laning phase is the best out of any mid in NA right now
Seraph just gets fucked by every level 1/2 in every single game lol,he's just unlucky right now and they will need 4 weeks and then they will wreck everyone
Oh, don't get me wrong, I think he played amazing during the weekend except this game.
[- Alex -]
Meh. I live CLG but this year is LOMO year. (LMQ)
Eren Yaeger
Randomly got mystery gifted MistleToe Leblanc from someone, wow I'm so happy right now
Vulf
People are starting to realize Rengar is retarded broken so it's time for me to quit league until he gets nerfed into unviability again. =\
inb4 rework v3 because that champion can never be balanced with that resource system.

At least Smite is fun again I guess. lol
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Vulf wrote:

People are starting to realize Rengar is retarded broken so it's time for me to quit league until he gets nerfed into unviability again. =\
inb4 rework v3 because that champion can never be balanced with that resource system.

At least Smite is fun again I guess. lol
I hope they don't do the same shit to Yasuo. I'm fine with the wind wall nerfs.
Vulf
Yasuo is fine after his last nerf + the new exhaust. If exhaust ever gets nerfed and he becomes a problem again I think they might need to touch his shield passive again.
Windwall has plenty of opportunities to outplay and interact with as an enemy, but his flow passive does not.
BrokenArrow
Rengar is sooooooooooooo fun to play dude, it was even funnier pre rework but I'm fine with his current state

Remember: If you dislike League because you hate playing against certain champion - play those champions yourself and make the others
feel your pain.
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BrokenArrow wrote:

Rengar is sooooooooooooo fun to play dude, it was even funnier pre rework but I'm fine with his current state

Remember: If you dislike League because you hate playing against certain champion - play those champions yourself and make the others
feel your pain.
Your signature is telling me something

Also, I don't play Rengar. I have no experience whatsoever in his current rework
Navizel

BrokenArrow wrote:

Rengar is sooooooooooooo fun to play dude, it was even funnier pre rework but I'm fine with his current state

Remember: If you dislike League because you hate playing against certain champion - play those champions yourself and make the others
feel your pain.
I guess I should play Talon and build lots of armor pen then
Jordan

Navizel wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

Rengar is sooooooooooooo fun to play dude, it was even funnier pre rework but I'm fine with his current state

Remember: If you dislike League because you hate playing against certain champion - play those champions yourself and make the others
feel your pain.
I guess I should play Talon and build lots of armor pen then
I thought I was the only one to know how full armpen Talon equals freelo :<
tyrael6192
everyone is trying to play the ryan choi 4-dorans rengar and most of the time they fuck it up and lose because they dont understand the champion

meanwhile riven reigns supreme
kagaminelenz

tyrael6192 wrote:

everyone is trying to play the ryan choi 4-dorans rengar and most of the time they fuck it up and lose because they dont understand the champion

meanwhile riven reigns supreme
LoL XD
I rarely see someone using rengar in my server. Dunno why
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kagaminelenz wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

everyone is trying to play the ryan choi 4-dorans rengar and most of the time they fuck it up and lose because they dont understand the champion

meanwhile riven reigns supreme
LoL XD
I rarely see someone using rengar in my server. Dunno why
Rengar isn't that famous unlike Kha'Zix. Many people don't play him 'cuz he's to complex I think
kagaminelenz
[/quote="Sonatora"]Rengar isn't that famous unlike Kha'Zix. Many people don't play him 'cuz he's to complex I think[/quote]

Complex, eh...
I think I'll wait for champion rotation and try rengar
Is it have a different play style with Warwick ?
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