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Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

That was awful. That could have gone bad REALLY fast. Don't know any other jungler who'd help top that much - most junglers just ignore top these days I find.
I would camp the hell out of top too if it was vayne. Super easy lane to gank.
Doesn't matter, I've had ADC tops before (I've seen several Vaynes top, a bunch of Quinns and a Corki once) and I don't get much help. People just stick around mid and bottom lanes.

Vulf wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Yea no smurfirno, I'm just frustrated with playing with players who don't even know what a ward is, both team mates and eneimes alike, just gets boring after awhile when you'll probably be the one with the most kills at the end of the game unless you are laning against an actual smurf which is fun because I like to be really challenged :P I guess I'll just take it slow I guess, the more games the better I suppose
Just going to throw it out there. It really doesn't get much better after level 30. Heck most bronze, silver and gold players don't know what wards are.
I find at my current level (Silver 5) supports are the only ones to ward on a consistent basis, sometimes mids. =/
I always put a ward in river when I'm top laning (in front of the Baron pit so I have time to react) and I find that my lane opponents... don't, even with their trinket available.
Like that Vayne I laned against a while ago... She could have saved herself a lot of hastle from La Volpe's Sejuani.
BrokenArrow
so apparently the way you build Kayle now is Berserker's -> Nashor's -> Runaa's Hurricane -> AP
It's hidden op confirmed by koreans since Runaa's' bolts apply on-hit effects from Nashor's as well as her passive
Also 30/0/0 masteries are a must since she benefits from basically everything

Gonna try that tomorrow
Vulf

Justykanna wrote:

Doesn't matter, I've had ADC tops before (I've seen several Vaynes top, a bunch of Quinns and a Corki once) and I don't get much help. People just stick around mid and bottom lanes.
That's the current meta mind set. Most normal matchups top lane are almost 100% pointless contribute much ganks to, but that doesn't mean people should ignore the lane 100% of the laning phase. Basically you benefit a heck of a lot more if you snowball bot lane or even mid compared to top, but if the top lane is something like a vayne vs an ally Jax or Riven you better gank often because that is free food and both of those champs snowball super hard. Silver 5 players don't understand how matchups work so they probably don't pay much attention to it.

Also ganking top is very risky if dragon is up. You could get a kill and take the turret to offset the gold,but if you fail the gank and lose dragon you pretty much screwed your entire team over for awhile.

In other words top lane is an island and if you are wanting to make plays then you better take teleport.
TKiller

BrokenArrow wrote:

so apparently the way you build Kayle now is Berserker's -> Nashor's -> Runaa's Hurricane -> AP
It's hidden op confirmed by koreans since Runaa's' bolts apply on-hit effects from Nashor's as well as her passive
Also 30/0/0 masteries are a must since she benefits from basically everything

Gonna try that tomorrow
Doesn't mean it procs splash three times. Still waste of a slot.
Vulf
I wouldn't even bother investing much time into Kayle because she is going to get nerfed again and Riot is going to do it in the wrong way as usual.
[- Alex -]

Vulf wrote:

I wouldn't even bother investing much time into Kayle because she is going to get nerfed again and Riot is going to do it in the wrong way as usual.
Kayle nerf? Why. She is good now , buff heal , nerf Q , E for not dat early burst.
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

Doesn't matter, I've had ADC tops before (I've seen several Vaynes top, a bunch of Quinns and a Corki once) and I don't get much help. People just stick around mid and bottom lanes.
That's the current meta mind set. Most normal matchups top lane are almost 100% pointless contribute much ganks to, but that doesn't mean people should ignore the lane 100% of the laning phase. Basically you benefit a heck of a lot more if you snowball bot lane or even mid compared to top, but if the top lane is something like a vayne vs an ally Jax or Riven you better gank often because that is free food and both of those champs snowball super hard. Silver 5 players don't understand how matchups work so they probably don't pay much attention to it.

Also ganking top is very risky if dragon is up. You could get a kill and take the turret to offset the gold,but if you fail the gank and lose dragon you pretty much screwed your entire team over for awhile.

In other words top lane is an island and if you are wanting to make plays then you better take teleport.
So it depends who I'm laning with / against? People don't seem to care regardless lol. I use Gangplank and Irelia for the most part but I doubt either are snowball champions.
I mean. I'm used to people ignoring top lane during laning phase but that doesn't mean I agree with it.

Eh, teleport over what though? Flash / Ignite?
Jordan

Stefan wrote:

hi im dragon wrote:



do nothing

get carried


do everything

get shit
There are so many things that are wrong in what you did but I'm gonna stick with saying that the loss shouldn't surprise you.
Vulf

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Kayle nerf? Why. She is good now , buff heal , nerf Q , E for not dat early burst.

Because she is extremely frustrating to play against? I absolutely hate playing against Kayle so I ban it every game.
Her kit is essentially fine, but her ult needs to go. There is a reason why immunity over time champions aren't allowed to thrive because there is simply little to no counterplay involved during the duration.

Immunity to damage/CC champions.

Poppy - Nerfed and getting a rework.
Olaf - nerfed, Reworked, and nerfed again.
Kayle - Reworked and nerfed multiple times since then.
Tryndamere - Ulti reworked and he immediately became pick or ban status, then nerfed.

When is Riot going to realize that immunity mechanics shouldn't exist in this game. People have even been bitching and moaning about Zhonyas for years now. LOL

Justykanna wrote:

So it depends who I'm laning with / against? People don't seem to care regardless lol. I use Gangplank and Irelia for the most part but I doubt either are snowball champions.
I mean. I'm used to people ignoring top lane during laning phase but that doesn't mean I agree with it.

Eh, teleport over what though? Flash / Ignite?
Irelia can snowball pretty hard, and drop ignite for teleport. I've won so many games simply due to the fact I teleported bottom got my carry a double kill and took dragon afterwards. Global presence is never a bad thing.
Rukario
Witch Mercy
wow got a pentakill with twitch. :3
he's so fun!
Kanye West

Justykanna wrote:

So it depends who I'm laning with / against? People don't seem to care regardless lol. I use Gangplank and Irelia for the most part but I doubt either are snowball champions.
I mean. I'm used to people ignoring top lane during laning phase but that doesn't mean I agree with it.

Eh, teleport over what though? Flash / Ignite?
lol what? Irelia and GP are the definition of snowbally top laners.

GP in particular is useless if he doesn't snowball
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Irelia can snowball pretty hard, and drop ignite for teleport. I've won so many games simply due to the fact I teleported bottom got my carry a double kill and took dragon afterwards. Global presence is never a bad thing.
Ah, okay. Noted.

Kanye West wrote:

lol what? Irelia and GP are the definition of snowbally top laners.

GP in particular is useless if he doesn't snowball
The definition of snowbally top laners? The one I always heard were Renekton and Jax.
Eren Yaeger

Kanye West wrote:

lol what? Irelia and GP are the definition of snowbally top laners.

GP in particular is useless if he doesn't snowball
The definition of snowbally top laners? The one I always heard were Renekton and Jax.[/quote]

How haven't you heard of Riven in there as well? Having mained her I know when she gets going she will melt people
Justykanna

Eren Yaeger wrote:

How haven't you heard of Riven in there as well? Having mained her I know when she gets going she will melt people
Riven too yeah. Those were the first two that came to mind though, just because I see them all the time, lol.
Kanye West
Renekton no, jax yes, riven yes
TKiller
Had no Renektons in around 20 games. God bless America.
hi im dragon


decided to pick up tryndamere again
Stefan

BrokenArrow wrote:

pls use anything but the german client
Can you explain me what exactly is wrong in using german client except with the reason "omgz german client sucks shit" ?

Jordan wrote:

There are so many things that are wrong in what you did but I'm gonna stick with saying that the loss shouldn't surprise you.
You know you can show the mistakes I've done since I always want to analyse the factors what caused a loss as long you don't come with stupid answers like "shit build" or things like that.
hi im dragon

Stefan wrote:

as long you don't come with stupid answers like "shit build" or things like that.
well then i guess there's nothing much to say
Vulf

Eren Yaeger wrote:

The definition of snowbally top laners? The one I always heard were Renekton and Jax.

How haven't you heard of Riven in there as well? Having mained her I know when she gets going she will melt people
Renekton is more of a lane bully that transitions into a tank with a little bit of damage late game. I wouldn't call that snowballing just annoying to lane against.

TKiller wrote:

Had no Renektons in around 20 games. God bless America.
Everyone is playing Jax (when it is't banned) and Ryze is still stupid top. Also Riven and Jarvan are still really good top too.
Stefan

hi im dragon wrote:

Stefan wrote:

as long you don't come with stupid answers like "shit build" or things like that.
well then i guess there's nothing much to say
With that I mean not only to judge this as bad, shit, etc. because he thinks about that. But giving constructive reasons and points in what is wrong.
hi im dragon
i just dont see how sunfire cape can be good on annie
TKiller

hi im dragon wrote:

i just dont see how sunfire cape can be good on annie
Tank annie was a thing some time in s1 or even before. When she scaled with levels like crazy that is.
hi im dragon

TKiller wrote:

hi im dragon wrote:

i just dont see how sunfire cape can be good on annie
Tank annie was a thing some time in s1 or even before. When she scaled with levels like crazy that is.
yeah i know about that, same with ad annie

but i dont see how the passive is effective on her
Vulf
Annie has always been a tanky mage and still is. You can straight up build her tanky AP items and still melt teams.

RoA
Zhonya's
Rylai's
Abyssal

Late game you will have like 130+ armor and 100ish MR with a little under 3k health with those 4 items.
Stefan
I have to admit that Sunfire Cape on Annie is weird, however it was more efficient due Life/Armor than Rylai's honestly.

Vulf wrote:

Annie has always been a tanky mage and still is. You can straight up build her tanky AP items and still melt teams.

RoA
Zhonya's
Rylai's
Abyssal

Late game you will have like 130+ armor and 100ish MR with a little under 3k health with those 4 items.
I ALWAYS build Annie in a tanky way because it always worked better to me as being Full AP. And with her E she is both, tank-like and strong.
Vulf
There is absolutely no reason to ever build sunfire cape on Annie when Zhonyas exist.
hi im dragon

Vulf wrote:

Annie has always been a tanky mage and still is. You can straight up build her tanky AP items and still melt teams.

RoA
Zhonya's
Rylai's
Abyssal

Late game you will have like 130+ armor and 100ish MR with a little under 3k health with those 4 items.
ok thanks for the obvious information?????????????????????????????
Vulf

hi im dragon wrote:

ok thanks for the obvious information?????????????????????????????
Do you have a problem with that?

Someone was asking for help and I gave it.
Stefan

Vulf wrote:

hi im dragon wrote:

ok thanks for the obvious information?????????????????????????????
Do you have a problem with that?

Someone was asking for help and I gave it.
Thank you anyways, just thinking Rylai's passive isn't so useful at her so I am really unsure about this item.
Vulf
I wouldn't say it's a mandatory item for her build, but it's good on her. Just think of it like a second RoA instead of mana you get a bit of utility with a slow.
VoidnOwO
Boris + Kog'Maw freelo
scottyyy
Season 3:

Season 4:

vayne pls :(
hi im dragon

scottyyy wrote:

Season 3:

Season 4:

vayne pls :(
eh tell me about it man

season 3:

season 4:

idk how
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:

The definition of snowbally top laners? The one I always heard were Renekton and Jax.

How haven't you heard of Riven in there as well? Having mained her I know when she gets going she will melt people
Renekton is more of a lane bully that transitions into a tank with a little bit of damage late game. I wouldn't call that snowballing just annoying to lane against.

TKiller wrote:

Had no Renektons in around 20 games. God bless America.
Everyone is playing Jax (when it is't banned) and Ryze is still stupid top. Also Riven and Jarvan are still really good top too.
Ah. Alrighty then. Clearly I dunno what it means to be a snowball champion then.
Yeah, I have zero idea how to fight a Renekton. >_> Tanky, damage, sustain with mobility.

Jax I am starting to see every now and then. Got demolished by a Jarvan IV the other day... His passive does a lot more damage than I remember... D=
It sucks because the champion that I used to rely on for fighting Jax (and Nasus) is Garen... but teams don't like when I use Garen for the purposes of lack of teamfight ability (even if I do well). =(
Eren Yaeger
http://www.twitch.tv/muegetsen/ if anyone wants to see me main riven while I level up for a bit, i'll remove it when I'm done streaming <3
BrokenArrow

Eren Yaeger wrote:

http://www.twitch.tv/muegetsen/ if anyone wants to see me main riven while I level up for a bit, i'll remove it when I'm done streaming <3
Damn you are handsome
[- Alex -]

Eren Yaeger wrote:

http://www.twitch.tv/muegetsen/ if anyone wants to see me main riven while I level up for a bit, i'll remove it when I'm done streaming <3
Dam Riven mains. I hate her so much....
Eren Yaeger

BrokenArrow wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:

http://www.twitch.tv/muegetsen/ if anyone wants to see me main riven while I level up for a bit, i'll remove it when I'm done streaming <3
Damn you are handsome
Oh stop it you <3
hi im dragon
rest in piece thread
tossu
Hi, anyone wanna be friends?;_; Can add tossuyo on EUW if anyone wants to play or something.
VoidnOwO
:oops:
BrokenArrow
Braum is broken as fuck. No kidding.
Foxtrot

BrokenArrow wrote:

Braum is broken as fuck. No kidding.
I am sure everyone is expecting a nerf sooner or later.
Eren Yaeger
How is he broken besides the passive stun? He seems pretty balanced right now from what I've seen, but I main top/mid :P
hi im dragon

Eren Yaeger wrote:

How is he broken besides the passive stun? He seems pretty balanced right now from what I've seen, but I main top/mid :P
._____________________.

have u read his skill set

i doubt
[- Alex -]

hi im dragon wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:

How is he broken besides the passive stun? He seems pretty balanced right now from what I've seen, but I main top/mid :P
._____________________.

have u read his skill set

i doubt
Leona is better !

The most op think about him is the passive.
Blaziken
That shield which negates all my efforts.
All means one Lux ult.
hi im dragon

Blaziken wrote:

That shield which negates all my efforts.
All means one Lux ult.
basically this

and he gets tanky as fucking hell lategame
Yapa_old_1

La Volpe


That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
kirueggy

La Volpe wrote:



That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
how in the hell did a bronze I do so much better than everyone else on opposing
La Volpe
Because our bot lane was losing early game.
Eren Yaeger

La Volpe wrote:



That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
Have you ever heard of a smurf? There is no way that a bronze would out CS and out lane a syndra diamond player as graves lol
La Volpe

Eren Yaeger wrote:

La Volpe wrote:



That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
Have you ever heard of a smurf? There is no way that a bronze would out CS and out lane a syndra diamond player as graves lol
Guess I forgot to mention,it was a normal game. Why would someone smurf on a normal match?
Eren Yaeger

La Volpe wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Have you ever heard of a smurf? There is no way that a bronze would out CS and out lane a syndra diamond player as graves lol
Guess I forgot to mention,it was a normal game. Why would someone smurf on a normal match?
Warmup game, for shits and gigs? Who knows, I just know that a bronze won't beat a diamond lol
tossu
I have let my friends play on my account so they can test champions they don't have, could've been that. Needless to say they got flamed quite a bit for playing awful on d1 account.
Justykanna

La Volpe wrote:



That game was so much fun, but the best part was our mid laner (Graves) beating the shit out of Syndra, a Diamond 4 player.
Lawl.
So many differently ranked people in that game...
Vulf
That Syndra only plays like 4 champions in ranked and none of them are mid laners. There are tons and tons of one trick ponies in diamond (I'm one of them).

For example if all the champions I play get banned or picked I will play like a bronze 5 so it's better if I dodge. That very rarely happens though because most stuff I play will never go FOTM.
Sapphiire_old_1

Vulf wrote:

most stuff I play will never go FOTM.
Never say never
[- Alex -]

SoG Tava wrote:

Vulf wrote:

most stuff I play will never go FOTM.
Never say never

Agreed.
tyrael6192
even warwick pretty much went fotm for a couple of minutes
Vulf
Warwick has kinda been fotm twice already, but Riot won't let it stay that way for long.

The odds of all the champions I play going FOTM at once is extremely rare.

Zilean hasn't been fotm since season 1
Volibear was good in season 3 for like a week and got nerfed. He is seeing competitive play though.
Galio was never really flavor of the month at all if I remember correctly. He was played a lot top/mid in season 1 and 2 but it never reached fotm status.

Then I have my troll picks like Urgot that I'm good with.

So yeah if every single one of those champs become ban worthy I might be 100% screwed in ranked. Also I'm sure soraka will be considered useless after her nerf on the pbe goes live so there is another champ I play that I can use again. lol
Kanye West
Shaco will never be fotm.
Vulf

Kanye West wrote:

Shaco will never be fotm.
I love Shaco, but he is a champion I can never play well no matter how many games I practice with him. =\
If Shaco does ever reach fotm status he will be deleted from the game. Same with stuff like Poppy. LOL
BrokenArrow
Zilean mid is actually pretty strong, I've played him in ARAM a couple times and with 40% CDR your W (which reduces all your CD's by 10s) will be on a ~3.5s CD = Perma bombs, slows, speed ups and an insanely low CD on your ult = tons of utility and dmg

The only reason I don't play him is that he is very mana hungry and his lasthitting in lane is crappy
His teamfighting isn't as weak as people might think as long as you stay back and put all your stuff on the frontline and let them do stuff. That's probably why he is played more as a support nowadays
OzzyOzrock
Braum jungle is super viable btw, you just will never get kills lol only like 30+ assists, you're literally a wall that sets up kills
[- Alex -]

Kanye West wrote:

Shaco will never be fotm.
Shaco ap best Shaco. Love Shaco so much. Normal/aram/dominion.
Greyusb
Does anyone remember the mythical champ known as Quinn...?

omg a chinese guy ching chang chong
Vulf

BrokenArrow wrote:

Zilean mid is actually pretty strong, I've played him in ARAM a couple times and with 40% CDR your W (which reduces all your CD's by 10s) will be on a ~3.5s CD = Perma bombs, slows, speed ups and an insanely low CD on your ult = tons of utility and dmg

The only reason I don't play him is that he is very mana hungry and his lasthitting in lane is crappy
His teamfighting isn't as weak as people might think as long as you stay back and put all your stuff on the frontline and let them do stuff. That's probably why he is played more as a support nowadays
I don't think he is that good of a support when you compare him to other supports. I don't even remember the last time I saw him as support.
I pick him when there is multiple hyper carries on my team and I want a safe mid lane champion that isn't Ziggs or Nidalee. His mana cost aren't that bad unless you spam early which you shouldn't be doing. Once you get athenes he is kinda retarded.

He is similar to Orianna which has a good early game super strong mid game and transitions into a utility mage late game. I'm kinda dreading his rework, but he is really outdated as fuck when it comes to mechanics.
Witch Mercy
Vulf, my friend carried himself from bronze to gold just playing zilean mid/support lol
Vulf
I don't doubt it. I never said he was weak at all. I've been a Zilean fan since pre-season 1 which he was perma ban status back then.
He is still really good now just outshined by stuff like Orianna.

Zilean is like my 4th most played champion. lol
Eren Yaeger

Greyusb wrote:

Does anyone remember the mythical champ known as Quinn...?

omg a chinese guy ching chang chong
Download HyperDesktop and never ever take a picture of your screen again pls <3
Greyusb

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Download HyperDesktop and never ever take a picture of your screen again pls <3
I was playing at an internet cafe so I didn't really bother to do so ><
Blaziken

Greyusb wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Download HyperDesktop and never ever take a picture of your screen again pls <3
I was playing at an internet cafe so I didn't really bother to do so ><
Press Print Sreen
Feast
4 men rage quit on my last BO game, I don't really know if I'm supposed to laugh or be mad
[- Alex -]

Ninth IX wrote:

4 men rage quit on my last BO game, I don't really know if I'm supposed to laugh or be mad
You are not the only one. Yea.... what can you do.
Blaziken
They seriously need to make some changes to matchmaking. I hate it when i'm on a roll to find out that that's only because i'm versing level 27 and below.
Eren Yaeger

Blaziken wrote:



They seriously need to make some changes to matchmaking. I hate it when i'm on a roll to find out that that's only because i'm versing level 27 and below.
Were you group with anyone?
Blaziken

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Blaziken wrote:



They seriously need to make some changes to matchmaking. I hate it when i'm on a roll to find out that that's only because i'm versing level 27 and below.
Were you group with anyone?
Yeah, but we should still be matched with players of the highest MMR of ours.
Eren Yaeger
This co-commentator with phreak though is so cringe worthy it hurts ;w;


I'm starting a league skype group for those that want a general place for making groups for normals or duo queing, just message me on my skype if anyone is interested in joining
BrokenArrow
Wow Battle Bunny Riven is in skin sale, it's not like I just bought her 2 days ago
Rito pls
[- Alex -]

BrokenArrow wrote:

Wow Battle Bunny Riven is in skin sale, it's not like I just bought her 2 days ago
Rito pls
Get Rekt.
Sapphiire_old_1

BrokenArrow wrote:

Wow Battle Bunny Riven is in skin sale, it's not like I just bought her 2 days ago
Rito pls

i am not 100% sure but i think that if you send a ticket that you get the rp difference refunded
scottyyy
Yep, generally if you buy something 2 weeks before it goes on sale they will refund you the difference
VoidnOwO
:)
Eren Yaeger

BrokenArrow wrote:

Wow Battle Bunny Riven is in skin sale, it's not like I just bought her 2 days ago
Rito pls
You do know there is a calendar for all the sales right?
BrokenArrow
n-no..
$1 more or less doesn't matter to me anyways, I just found the coincidence funny because I only buy skins like twice a year
Eren Yaeger

BrokenArrow wrote:

n-no..
$1 more or less doesn't matter to me anyways, I just found the coincidence funny because I only buy skins like twice a year
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/s ... e-schedule
BrokenArrow
ah nice Mecha Kha'Zix skin inc
even though he is kinda shit since the last nerf
Blaziken
I remember when I bought mecha kha zix last year the week before he went on sale.
1. I should of got the refund.
2. Every champion I buy with RP gets nerfed somehow or another.

Pantheon got nerfed
Twisted fate got nerfed
Kha Zix got nerfed
Kassadin got nerfed

I'm never getting a caitlyn skin but i'll defo get the Braum Skin.
Sapphiire_old_1

BrokenArrow wrote:

ah nice Mecha Kha'Zix skin inc
even though he is kinda shit since the last nerf
He is still good just not op annymore
Greyusb
still waiting for deep terror thresh sale..
Vulf

SoG Tava wrote:

He is still good just not op annymore
With how Riot leaves certain things in a broken spot for the longest time the majority of the community thinks "overpowered = viable" now. Just being good at a role doesn't cut it anymore.

Everything is viable in solo queue though you need to work harder with certain champions.

I think Kha'Zix is still one of the top junglers atm.
BrokenArrow
I liked lane Kha tho, evolving Q into E first
it's pretty hard to get any isolation damage down now so that sucks for me
Kanye West
I enjoyed evolving W on him the most. Sad that they made it so you can't use W in midair. Dumb nerf that made W unviable.
Eren Yaeger
My friend mains him and from what I've seen he's still very strong. Also I've noticed that jarvan has been wrecking me in top lane even when I build defensively, is he in a really strong spot at the moment or am I just bad?
Vulf
What are you playing against him? Jarvan has always wrecked early game power houses like Riven in lane even before the buff to his passive.
Just play super tanks like Shen and Malphite against him.
Eren Yaeger
Rengar and riven are the only ones I'm playing right now, but since it's normals there is no way for me to counter pick against him D:
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