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A multi-account, and you're point is shit. Let's remove freemods completely.Dexus wrote:
yeah, but if you're not doing the same stuff what's the point?-____- wrote:
it's for having fun with others, right?
Also if you play stuff in multi and do all that how the hell do you not have any SS, S, or A ranks? Your rank is rather low and you seem to know a lot but don't have very many plays on anything. In fact your play history is pretty empty.
Hit Accuracy: 65.08%
Play Count: 55
I smell a multi-account or you just suck at this game.
Yes I think that is the main concern for implementing this. If someone can come up with a good solution then this request is more likely to be implemented.CDFA wrote:
The only issue I really see is that the DT user is going to have to sit in Multi for a long time when the rest of the users finish the map. For long songs, this can turn into a bit of an issue (and I can probably sense a lot of bugs coming from this)
Have you ever played games with your(if you have any) friends at all?Dexus wrote:
yeah, but if you're not doing the same stuff what's the point?-____- wrote:
it's for having fun with others, right?
You're going to get banned because you're multiaccounting, it's against the rules.-____- wrote:
And yeah, multiaccount here, not sure what that has to do with anything, seems I have no right of speaking if I am not a "good" player?
Dexus wrote:
jesus1412 wrote:
Let's remove freemods completely.
I don't get the problem. Is it the concept that you're not playing in real time? To the people without the mod you still appear to be playing in real time. That problem is completely void and not an argument at all. If you're complaining about your sentimental values of not actually playing in real time then you should probably not play multiplayer at all because get this, you're NEVER playing in 100% realtime with someone.BRBP wrote:
Shit just got realdeadbeat wrote:
first and warning warning.Yeah exactly. Totally. And maybe because they wouldn't be playing in realtime. I want freemod doubletime to counter-strike.-____- wrote:
They're afraid to be beaten by a DT user in multiplayer while playing nomod, they like to cover it up by calling it "playing rhythm games incorrectly"
It's not such a big deal as to wait for other players to finish, since it's up to the player to decide whether or not they want to play with the mod and it's already been mentioned that the players using dt could wait for the players that aren't to finish.Oinari-sama wrote:
Yes I think that is the main concern for implementing this. If someone can come up with a good solution then this request is more likely to be implemented.CDFA wrote:
The only issue I really see is that the DT user is going to have to sit in Multi for a long time when the rest of the users finish the map. For long songs, this can turn into a bit of an issue (and I can probably sense a lot of bugs coming from this)
Coincidentally there are similar discussions in another thread: Multiplayer "free play" which is a request for allowing individual players to choose whatever difficulty level within the same mapset. The concern there is that some lower diff maps are considerably shorter than the higher diff so the time gap needs to be addressed. That request, however, has an easy way out which is simply disable the "freedom" if the maps within the mapset are considerably different in length.
I just thought I'll bring it up here cause any potential solution proposed in this thread may work on the other.
Because it compares your score realtime to other players, rather than just records of scores.Xivaxi wrote:
Can someone who feels this way explain why playing in real time is such a big deal? I don't really understand. The only indication that we're all playing in somewhat-realtime is the scoreboard anyway, so if it's implemented with the delayed scores from the DT players like everyone is suggesting, then that complaint seems to just go out the window.
someone can be a ruseman and put HT on marathon plays just to piss off other players... unless if were only talking about DT getting the "free mod" treatment.CDFA wrote:
The only issue I really see is that the DT user is going to have to sit in Multi for a long time when the rest of the users finish the map. For long songs, this can turn into a bit of an issue (and I can probably sense a lot of bugs coming from this)
Actually it's the opposite. I always see people demanding for DT, and many Hosts feel threathened and comply. Some people (like me) just don't like DT. I like to listen to a nice song, not some fast rabble. The song is the reason why I joined the room (or stayed there) after all. So it's really sad when that happens.BRBP wrote:
Can't you people find another way to show off rather than joining multi rooms with DT?
Too bad there's no anti-votes, this thread would get every single one I have.
Again it would be better to make them start at the same time and feed the DT scores to the nomod players at normal speed so that none DT players can see the scores as if competing in real time, then only the DT players are hindered at all.Oinari-sama wrote:
Oh I've completely forgotten about this thread lol
To bring the focus back to "waiting for other players to finish," what about this instead: make DT players wait for their start while others are playing.
Consider this from a race perspective. DT players wait at the starting line to give non-DT players a head start. DT players can watch the score board rise while waiting so they don't feel as bored, and it'll induce a need to catch up when it's finally it's their time to start. This can give the players a "runner vs chaser" sense and bring new dynamics to multiplayer games.
The DT players should get their countdown loud and clear, while the non-DT players should hear a new "warning" sound notifying that the DT players has started. Visual Settings can only be adjusted at the very beginning (common to all players) to ensure that the countdown is uninterrupted.
Imo this will be more exciting than waiting for players to finish.
Well that certainly sounds easier to implement.jesus1412 wrote:
Again it would be better to make them start at the same time and feed the DT scores to the nomod players at normal speed so that none DT players can see the scores as if competing in real time, then only the DT players are hindered at all.
Keyone94 wrote:
even if the song is long, the players still choose for themself to wait at the end,
its not like anyone forces them
Saint wrote:
please
That is a very valid point. Thank you for expanding upon your reasoning so that we can reach a compromise.Therealsage wrote:
I don't think that this is a good feature to get implemented into multiplayer :/
Haha indeed a very valid argument!jesus1412 wrote:
That is a very valid point. Thank you for expanding upon your reasoning so that we can reach a compromise.Therealsage wrote:
I don't think that this is a good feature to get implemented into multiplayer :/
I like the idea of a timer along with a display of the other players scores vs your score at the their time of play (seeing what the scoreboard looks like to the people still playing). Could make it a little exciting too.Therealsage wrote:
That would solve my issue with the idea, I just don't like changes that would affect other players experience while playing with those who would chose to use DT as a Free Mod.
I don't think that giving them the change to spectate is worth it, maybe just getting locked at the score screen while Osu streams the scores of the other players while a timer counts down to the end of the map is a better solution, but i don't know what would be the better to implement...
This shouldn't harm anyone, support.jesus1412 wrote:
Again it would be better to make them start at the same time and feed the DT scores to the nomod players at normal speed so that none DT players can see the scores as if competing in real time, then only the DT players are hindered at all.
jesus1412 wrote:
The idea would be that none double time players and double time players would start the map at the same time. As they play the none-DT players would have the scores of the DT players fed to them as if it was nomod with a + 0.12 modifier (essentially they would see the DT players performances at the same stage as themselves throughout the entire map). At the end of the map the DT players would have to wait for other players to finish the map at which point the results screen would appear.
This would NOT change the appearance of multiplayer AT ALL for none-DT players and it would NOT change the pace that scores are delivered to them. The argument that halftime should be allowed has been brought up too but that would mean that all nomod players would have to wait for HT players to finish which I don't think is fair.
And of course if peppy was feeling particularly generous some sort of activity could be added for player who use DT (such as spectating other players while waiting or being able to view the scores of all players live) but really the DT players should expect to wait and don't deserve this compensation.
I don't even see why these things are being considered as arguments, but, oh well. This might also be one of those things that peppy just refuses to change, like background dim in the editor.jesus1412 wrote:
Arguments against:
Not actually physically playing in real time with the DT players. How is this an issue at all? Give me one valid reason for this to be taken seriously.
People can show off with DT. Yes, just like any other free mod.
People who pick DT will have to wait at the end of the map for other players. This is the DT picker's choice, if you don't like it, don't pick it.
People who pick DT might leave before the map is over (just like any mod choices I don't even understand this point). <
100% aggreed. I am not able to name any issues too.Tess wrote:
I don't even see why these things are being considered as arguments, but, oh well. This might also be one of those things that peppy just refuses to change, like background dim in the editor.jesus1412 wrote:
Arguments against:
Not actually physically playing in real time with the DT players. How is this an issue at all? Give me one valid reason for this to be taken seriously.
People can show off with DT. Yes, just like any other free mod.
People who pick DT will have to wait at the end of the map for other players. This is the DT picker's choice, if you don't like it, don't pick it.
People who pick DT might leave before the map is over (just like any mod choices I don't even understand this point). <
Like Tess already mentioned, its their choice to pick DT. When the DT player does not have the patience to wait for the Non-DT players, then he should not pick DT, wtf.Ongaku wrote:
A lot of people don't have the patience to wait for others player to play the other half of the map, nor do they have time to make people wait.
I literally summarized the ENTIRE thread in one post so that uninformed posts wouldn't be made off the bat and you didn't even read it... You have no idea what this feature request is by the looks of your post and if you're not willing to read the solution to EVERY SINGLE ISSUE that you stated, them I'm not willing to read your crappy 2 line post.Ongaku wrote:
Freemode DT will affect the Multiplayer in-game gameplay A LOT. I wouldn't really recommend this. A lot of people don't have the patience to wait for others player to play the other half of the map, nor do they have time to make people wait.