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HakuNoKaemi
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Joined October 2009
HakuNoKaemi

Konei wrote:

Kodora wrote:

Because it already was accepted as rankable (and was ranked).

Hope you got my answer.
Wat, if some BATs don't know some ranking rules and just rank the mapset without knowing them, it should be reranked after an unrank because it was once accepted as rankable? I don't get this to be honest.
Other than what they say.
I've seen BATs who misunderstood rules/guidelines, and made the mapper remove some awesome things.
Ah, Zarerion pretty much asked an objective response to an answer like "Why you like that kind of pizza?" or probably a better metaphor, "Why you cook meat like this?, which is pretty impossible to find.
Garven
osu! Alumni
5,857 posts
Joined January 2010
Garven
Awesome as is horrible, right?

Anyway, you can always silence the ticks during the beginning if that's your qualm about using rate 2, Kodora.
Sieg
3,981 posts
Joined February 2012
Sieg
Imo gap between insane-hard and hard-normal is quite equal. You can argue about overlaps on hard which some players may find harass a bit (you can't please everyone after all).... but gap is not the case, seriously.
Momochikun
1,954 posts
Joined October 2012
Momochikun
To be honest.. i'm feel really confusing at some part of this map -w-
There're some note that completely hidden with the slidertrack
Well.. good luck on rerank this !
banvi
1,793 posts
Joined June 2009
banvi
First, the difficulty spread is fine imo.
About some notes hidden by the slidertrack in kodora's Hard, I passed in the first play (certainly it's hard to read... but it's nice idea imo)
People have different tastes, but at least I think it doesn't need to fix.
Anyway I think this really don't deserve to be unranked :<

Well, it's just my opinion.
I hope this map get re-ranked soon ></
soulfear
947 posts
Joined January 2010
soulfear
星爷和Kodora终究不能达成真爱，看来爱♂情是艰难的，我又相信爱♂情了。
Kodora
Kodora
Fear变态 >_>
Chloe
1,162 posts
Joined April 2011
Chloe

Kodora wrote:

Fear变态 >_>
tutuhaha
3,049 posts
Joined October 2010
tutuhaha

Kodora wrote:

Fear变态 >_>
mod
14:19 tutuhaha: :O about you hard？
14:19 Kodora: yes o.o
14:21 Kodora: OAO
14:23 tutuhaha: 00:17:343 (1) - I dont really like this one
14:24 Kodora: well that will be changed
14:25 tutuhaha: 00:32:657 (3,4) - maybe make more far space╮(￣▽￣")╭？...
14:26 tutuhaha: 00:37:657 (1,2) - ^ This one you should make more big space ._.b
14:27 Kodora: OAO
14:27 Kodora: maybe you're right ._.
14:28 tutuhaha: 01:02:972 (7,8) - this part is litter bit hard
14:28 Kodora: will change this
14:29 Kodora: unstack should works better
14:30 tutuhaha: 01:15:160 (1,2) - change the place
14:31 Kodora: O_O
14:31 Kodora: how
14:31 tutuhaha: 01:25:161 (1,2) - more big space
14:33 tutuhaha: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1090531
14:34 Kodora: oh silly me
14:34 Kodora: you're right ._>
14:34 Kodora: ._.
14:34 Kodora: will fix
14:35 Kodora: anything other? o.o
14:36 tutuhaha: wwww nope
14:42 Kodora: OAO
14:42 Kodora: post log pls
14:42 Kodora: Yuko will give kd
14:43 Kodora: and thank you very much for your help <3
14:43 tutuhaha: kkkk XD
HakuNoKaemi
3,828 posts
Joined October 2009
HakuNoKaemi
I Re-Equalised the mp3 Garven posted to be less loud and less flat, applied the timing to my difficulty and found the video offset of it (which is 530)
Irreversible
osu! Alumni
4,317 posts
Joined December 2011
Irreversible
Uhm, as soon as you've fixed the stuff and you're ready, you can call me for a rebubble~
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena
:comment deleted by self to stop the army of chinese BATs:
Last edited by Avena , edited 2 times in total.
HakuNoKaemi
3,828 posts
Joined October 2009
HakuNoKaemi
One does not simply say "this is bad" "this suxxx" and so without even suggesting how to correct it.
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

One does not simply say "this is bad" "this suxxx" and so without even suggesting how to correct it.
He knows what I am talking about, but he is living in denial.
popner
osu! Alumni
2,407 posts
Joined March 2011
popner
First time to see such an offensive mod. The mapper don't need to reply anything to things like this.
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena

popner wrote:

First time to see such an offensive mod. The mapper don't need to reply anything to things like this.
That's because you don't know our history.
Yea this mod is under the category of "stupid", but to be honest this isn't even a mod, this is just be expressing how much I hate his ignorance.
And no, it doesn't work well in PM with him.
Scorpiour
2,633 posts
Joined May 2011
Scorpiour
just remind:

mod is a serious thing and aiming to help mapper but not to throw the paragraph of bil
HakuNoKaemi
3,828 posts
Joined October 2009
HakuNoKaemi
I can say:

I like those parts. I won't change them myself as a mapper. (Yes, in my maps, guest mapper say I can choose what to apply for them, since I kinda know what's good and bad for them )

Priti wrote:

Kodora's Hard
  1. 00:07:030 (5,1) - no.
  2. 00:14:374 (4,2) - NO, JUST NO
  3. 00:24:531 (1,2,3) - I DON'T CARE THAT THE DISTANCE SNAPPING SAYS OTHERWISE, THIS IS A JUMP AND IT'S A RETARDED UNNEEDED ONE fix pls kthx
  4. 00:49:221 (1,2,3) - NO, DON'T, STOP IT
  5. 00:55:784 - Why did you turn off the kiai here for no reason, fixpls. Fountain
  6. 00:57:502 (5,2) - I am running out of jokes.
  7. 00:59:534 (4,5) - porque.
  8. 01:02:972 (7,8) - ...
  9. 01:06:409 - 01:11:410 - No kiai for no reason? ._. The reason is quite obvious. The "weight" of the part after is higher.
  10. 01:07:503 (5,2) - ew
  11. Ohwait you are going to deny my WHOLE MOD using the two key words "subjective" and "questionable"
  12. gaeb nuke pls
Things I could suggest to change
[*]00:11:874 (6,7,1) - HOW DO I FLOW AND LOGIC LOLZ
Like this
224,280,11874,2,0,P|144:240|48:288,1,172,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
140,356,12343,1,8,0:0:0:0:
69,263,12499,6,0,P|60:212|40:164,1,86,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,44,12812,2,0,P|145:95|165:143,1,86,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

[*]00:22:969 (1,2) - This is uglier than my yearbook pic
Nope, it's the (2,3) the problem, a nicer blanketing would work just good
http://puu.sh/5faQe.png
(3,4)
336,56,23750,2,0,B|360:116|328:160|328:160|348:180,1,137.6
348,180,24219,1,2,0:0:0:0:]

[*]00:25:469 (3,1) - NO, STOP IT
(3,4)
128,72,26250,2,0,B|104:120|136:172|136:172|112:196,1,137.6,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
113,195,26719,1,2,0:0:0:0:

[*]00:42:658 (1) - Should start at 00:43:126
Well, the spinner do follow the guitar, so make it start later and add a circle in [*]00:42:658 (1) -

[*]00:51:408 (4,1) - do u even try to map well.
*bad laughs*
432,256,51408,2,0,P|384:304|284:296,1,172,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,216,51877,1,0,0:0:0:0:
343,314,52033,6,0,B|312:312|284:296|284:296|224:264|164:308,1,172

Things I don't know how to suggest better since it would change the flow too much (yes, the fact you used the same pattern many time is still there u,u)
[*]00:16:875 (4,1) - If I can't click on 1 in editor because of 4 COMPLETELY 100% blocking it, it means you did something wrong You can click it on the timeline, though
[*][*]00:37:032 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This whole thing is just wrong.
[*]00:39:220 (2,1) - do u evn try to flow well.
[*]00:40:001 (2) - Ugly as hell
[*]00:40:783 (1,2,3,4) - Switch between 1 and 3's location, this shape is too confusing for people who are supposed to play a hard diff which for you just seems like an easier insane without caring about the PLAYERS, idgaf about your playtesters because YOUR PLAYTESTERS ARE AT INSANE LEVEL, NOT HARD LEVEL scbhsmkjlasbncdkajbgjs It's still kinda easy for an Insane, and kinda intuitive to play, since there is a pitch jump in (3,4)
[*]00:41:720 (1,2,3,4) - ^
Broccoly
1,359 posts
Joined May 2012
Broccoly

Priti wrote:

00:22:969 (1,2) - This is uglier than my yearbook pic
im crying
Konei
2,959 posts
Joined March 2012
Konei

Kodora wrote:

x0.25 SV raisings aren't even noticeable much.
Do you even notice how subjective your arguments are? I broke combo often because of those speed ups and yes, they are noticeable for me.
The way too similar combo colours aren't helping much either.
HakuNoKaemi
3,828 posts
Joined October 2009
HakuNoKaemi

Konei wrote:

Kodora wrote:

x0.25 SV raisings aren't even noticeable much.
Do you even notice how subjective your arguments are? I broke combo often because of those speed ups and yes, they are noticeable for me.
The way too similar combo colours aren't helping much either.
Objectivity doesn't exist in mapping ( because mapping itself is subjective, and if it wasn't... well, we would map in the same way ), so a mapper that won't accept (faulty) subjective arguments answering them with subjective counter-arguments* isn't in fault.


*in this case, you can "feel" how the song rhythm "feel" faster, so the change of the SV is actually normally playable. As a plus, SV changes were made to map these parts where music speed "feel" change. (You can descrive it as a light part that goes to an heavy part, or as a holded note/part with more holded notes or so )
wcx19911123
3,862 posts
Joined June 2010
wcx19911123
I'm just wondering how many people supported the unrank now. the spread is totally fine to mostly players imo: usual Easy+ a bit hard Normal+ hard Hard+ a bit hard Insane
maybe the only thing is the hidden objects, but it's as easy to read as other patterns with those conspicuous approach circles
Garven
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2010
Garven
The map has already been changed from what I understand. It definitely could stand to be improved regardless of whether it was unrankable or not, so we may as well take the opportunity to make it better.

Wish people wouldn't bite so hard on the obvious trolling though. Priti: Consider yourself warned.
Hula
581 posts
Joined January 2013
Hula
all these bats, it's like going into a cave!
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena

Hula wrote:

all these bats, it's like going into a cave!
Batman is pleased with your comment.
akebono
615 posts
Joined August 2012
akebono
I like the flow of the map~ So I'll not complain~

GL for Reranked~
Kodora
Kodora
lol troll post

Well, fixed blankets (thanks Haku), applied tutuhaha's mod and changed tickrate to 2

@Konei

Konei wrote:

Kodora wrote:

x0.25 SV raisings aren't even noticeable much.
Do you even notice how subjective your arguments are? I broke combo often because of those speed ups and yes, they are noticeable for me.
Since only you complaining about SV changes i guess playability of them is much more objective standpoint rather than subjective.
As i said before, SV changes reflecting song's tempo & i'm not going to remove them without very good reason, thank you.
Skystar
1,628 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Skystar
those

those wrote:

We've received a lot of complaints about this map (mainly Kodora's Hard) and I'm here on behalf of the BAT to temporarily unrank this mapset before a week passes, in which it will be too late to save this mapset.

One of the bigger concerns here is an issue with the spread. With the current Hard diff which is an Insane in disguise by means of difficulty naming, this leaves a rather large gap between the second and third diffs.

Furthermore, TheGrimOfCrazy's mod was not addressed, but rather shoved off, and the ranking BAT perhaps missed this. It is clearly unjustified due to this single line:
15:08 Kodora: that's something what not going to be changed because it was mapped with all those overlaps in mind :I
For future reference, it's important to state why your way is better than any suggestions given (if any).

The last part of this address comes with all significant problems in the map that led to this unrank.

[General]
  1. http://puu.sh/58ZVm.png Colours much too similar.
[Hard]
  1. 00:07:030 (5,1) - First slider body completely overlaps with second.
  2. 00:14:999 (2,3,4) - (2) is completely hidden under slider body, and (2,3,4) presents itself with a strange rhythm. 00:15:624 - needs to be played, and thus you cannot play 00:15:468 (4) - as a slider.
  3. 00:17:343 (1) - Circle completely hidden under slider body in the time span of 1/2.
  4. 00:52:033 (1) -
  5. 00:58:127 (2) -
  6. 01:00:003 (5) - These three are absolutely inappropriate and can be played/read much better in a different position.
  7. 01:02:972 (7,8) - Much of (8) is hidden under (7).
  8. 01:08:128 (2) - Circle completely hidden under slider body.
[Insane]
  1. 00:00:780 (1,2,3,4,1) - Very erratic spacing. Can be much improved to serve as a better intro section. fixed
  2. 00:58:753 (3,4) - It makes zero sense for you not to do like 00:48:752 (1) - . eh just thought that would fit with vocals, it made sense anyways
  3. 01:19:223 (1) - Unnecessary overlapping, counter intuitive. Try 155:100. it's necessary, and it flows good
  4. 00:14:062 (1,1,1) - New combo spamming is largely unnecessary across the entire map. You don't want or need a new combo just because you're changing slider velocity. what's wrong with adding new combo for velocity changes?
I'm not calling any of these \unreadable\ since you have all sorts of creative excuses to divert from that, but rather, I'm asking you to find better object placement for each of the highlighted sections. Of course, if you need any help, I'm sure many of us are more than willing to help you improve this map.
HakuNoKaemi

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

Nope, the Hard doesn't feel that hard, and the Normal is a solid Normal. The only difficulty in bewteen might be a Normal+ with lots of 1/2, but the spread is nice as now.
a solid Easy, solid Normal, solid Hard.

Anyway,
for the Insane
00:00:780 (1,2,3,4) - play bad, since it seems it should be a stream, and the (1,2) jump doesn't seem hinted by the song, differently from the (4,1) so: remove the jump before and enlarge the spacing of those three(2,3,4) or try to map it like this (flow better, and is related to how you mapped after) fixed
SPOILER

00:29:532 (1) - It look pretty bad, try this fixed
SPOILER

00:32:657 (1,2,3,4) - after a relaxing part, and a long jump, jumping that much can be harsh, so eh it's fine i promise, i tried it lots of time
SPOILER

00:42:189 (4,1) - You end with the drums and start with vocals? You can try ending with the vocals to it as example: ( one slider per word, the second one is slowed up by a x0.33 section(-300 in the .osu) well just intuitive, didnt like to follow these vocals
SPOILER

In the end, there was no reason, for me, to unrank this.
If the players see something not used by a non-famous mapper, they obviously freak out with no-sense.
Ah, you can fully map normal and easy
Konei

Konei wrote:

Small suggestion for Yuko on Insane.

00:48:752 (1) - How about using 3/4 rhythm here aswell as you did on the second KIAI? Would be more consistent which is somehow better here in my opinion. hard to change here lol
Garven

Garven wrote:

Just a quickie mod here.

[General]
Tick rate 2 fits this song best
Do you plan on adding Haku's difficulty, Yuko? I'm not going to mod it if it's not going to be added.
Also the current mp3 sounds like ass a youtube rip. Try this one. http://puu.sh/5b1S7.mp3
192 flat BPM, offset 648. Thanks to jonathanlfj for finding, encoding, and timing this new mp3. It's not that great, but it's much better than the current one.

[Easy]
00:25:469 (1) - This section feels a bit cluttered with hit objects. It's a really calm part in the Easy difficulty. I think simplifying 00:28:282 (1,2,3) - to something like this would fit the pace much better this rhythm sounds weird o.o

00:37:970 - Adding a circle here would help transition to the next phrase fixed
00:42:658 - Insert a break here nope, as i have explained
00:47:345 (2,1,2,3) - This is incredibly boring rhythmically for the start of the kiai section. Spruce it up a bit. Same applies to 00:56:252 (1) - i dont see the problem of it.. since it's an easy diff and i just follow the drums, what's wrong with that?
01:13:910 (1,2,3) - Considering you're reaching the climax, using circles would give a better feeling of amping up. prefer sliders here... also adding circles would be hard for an easy diff
Add a spinner somewhere so that there are variable high scores possible.

[Normal]
00:21:094 - Add a break same as above
00:33:282 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Geez. Try using circles sometimes. All sliders gives a very samey feeling and grows dull fast. nah i prefer sliders when mapping easier diffs, because sliders can be more creative in low density rhythm maps
00:38:126 - Add a circle here to transition to the next phrase better and give a feeling of actually increasing tension fixed
00:42:658 - Add a break same
00:53:908 (1) - Going with the vocals here would give a nice variation to the bland 1/1 rhythm right before fixed
01:03:909 (1) - ^ fixed
01:06:409 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - This is all 1/1. :/ Try giving a little variation in here. It's pretty drab as-is. 01:11:410 (1) - is fine with the 1/1 considering the musical emphasis, but before it, there's plenty to follow that would fit within a Normal's context well it may be a bit boring but i dont think it's a serious problem...
01:13:754 - Adding a circle here would help transition to the next phrase sounds weird
Add a spinner somewhere so that there are variable high scores possible.

[Hard]
The spread from N -> H is a little high, but it's not that horrible when you put it in perspective of the set as a whole. I came here expecting something outrageous. I'm kinda disappointed.
I think lowering the distance snap during the intro would give a better feeling of transition from the slower part to the faster part when the back kicks in at 00:10:155 -
00:07:499 (1) - Not really seeing much reason why you stacked this like that. I think using an anti-jump would work a lot better to fit with what you did at the end of the other two parts prior.
SPOILER

Well, I have to end this here. Getting too many interruptions and ran out of time. Hopefully this'll at least improve the easier diffs a bit. Definitely use the new mp3 and add spinners in the least.
will update the map with Haku's diff and new mp3
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
2,850 posts
Joined December 2008
yeahyeahyeahhh
Was asked for mod this

General:
Your MP3 is 32kb/s... try to find a better quality one? Try to find a 128kb/s mp3.
Kiai timings across all diffs aren't the same. Intended? Shouldn't be but Kodora has 5 kiai timings and the others only 3. On Kodora delete the Kiai at 00:10:492 and 01:16:116

Skystar:
Lots of unsnapped inherited timing sections, maybe go through and adjustment or make sure that this doesn't effect your hitsounds at all
01:19:554 (1) - Unsnapped slider-end
00:42:523 - Maybe put a break or a spinner here?
00:50:491 (1) - Covered up too much by the previous slider imo, hard to see.
01:04:241 (1) - ^
01:05:023 (1,2,1) - This is... IDK what. It looks sloppy and extremely hard to read, 01:05:335 (2) make its all confusing and hard to see 01:05:491 (1). I suggest completely fixing this pattern or whatever you wanna call it.
01:19:085 (1) - No, just noooooooooooooo stop hiding notes under sliders D:

Kodora:
Lots of unsnapped inherited timing sections, maybe go through and adjustment or make sure that this doesn't effect your hitsounds at all
00:14:866 (2) - Hidden under the slider of 00:14:241 (4), maybe arrange it so its not under it.
01:07:991 (2) - ^

Normal:
Lots of unsnapped inherited timing sections, maybe go through and adjustment or make sure that this doesn't effect your hitsounds at all

Easy:
Lots of unsnapped inherited timing sections, maybe go through and adjustment or make sure that this doesn't effect your hitsounds at all
Reiji-RJ
1,402 posts
Joined April 2010
Reiji-RJ
Hello, Kodora asked me to mod one diff, sooo

Haku no Arpeggio

  1. 00:15:960 (2) - make rhythm similar to 00:13:304 (1,2) - and add whistles. You have strange rhythm here, yes.
  2. 00:43:069 (1) - start spinner from 00:43:148 - the music begins there
  3. 01:17:991 (7) - add finish to the end
Good luck on rerank
HakuNoKaemi
3,828 posts
Joined October 2009
HakuNoKaemi

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Was asked for mod this

General:
Your MP3 is 32kb/s... try to find a better quality one? Try to find a 128kb/s mp3.
l
It's a ~2 Mb song of ~90 sec
It can't be 32 Kb/s(it would've weight about 282 Kb), it's a VBR of an average of 184 Kb/s
yeahyeahyeahhh
osu! Alumni
2,850 posts
Joined December 2008
yeahyeahyeahhh

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Was asked for mod this

General:
Your MP3 is 32kb/s... try to find a better quality one? Try to find a 128kb/s mp3.
l
It's a ~2 Mb song of ~90 sec
It can't be 32 Kb/s(it would've weight about 282 Kb), it's a VBR of an average of 184 Kb/s
Gotcha
HakuNoKaemi
3,828 posts
Joined October 2009
HakuNoKaemi
Here
Added the finish to other similar part too
Asgard
639 posts
Joined June 2011
Asgard
request from Kodora

[Haku no Yuko]
00:00:648 (1) - it doesn't have New combo... i think you must add on here
00:03:773 (3,4) - 1 grid down, because this is more balanceable shape
00:32:366 (2,1) - well.. stack on slider 1
00:39:398 (4) - stack too, i guess you want to make like this pattern, but it doesn't good to see at me
00:49:085 (4) - 304, 132 ( last slider point)
00:52:835 (4,3,3) - lol repeat at 3 times on same place.. these are strange... but it is not problem if you want to keep this pattern, I'm not standing in your way
01:06:116 (3) - i think this looks like overlap
01:24:710 (2,3) - stack on slider 1
Kinomi
1,229 posts
Joined August 2012
Kinomi
as Kodora's req

most of these highly suggest you to do

Haku no Arpeggio
00:00:648 (1) - meaningless nc
00:12:366 (4) - remove the whistle on tail and add finish
00:15:335 (6) - ^
00:17:366 (6) - ^
00:35:023 you can not miss this drum,ad with out a note here,00:35:335 (6) - will be hard to read with an empty of 3/2
00:50:179 (7) - i prefer to increase it's spacing with 00:49:866 (6) - ,stack it on 00:50:335 (8) - may be a way
00:52:210 (2) - move it up a bit i think it is still too close to 00:51:585 (1) -
SPOILER
00:53:773 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this pattern is fucking full of misdirection,really looks like 1/2 rhythm
00:54:866 (1) - especially this one,highly suggest you to move it away from 00:54:241 (3) - ,i think you can stack it on 00:53:773 (1) - ,after testing i find no misdirection of it
00:58:148 (6) - move it down a bit
SPOILER
00:59:710 (4) - this one is like 00:54:866 (1) - ,stack it on 00:59:866 (5) - can solve the problem
01:17:991 (7) - finish on tail

01:12:366 (5,7) - it is better not to use 1/1 slider here,01:13:616 (1,1) - and these two,well this one is not so important

that's all
hugs yuko and kodora and haku >.</////~~~~~~~
HakuNoKaemi
3,828 posts
Joined October 2009
HakuNoKaemi

Tsukuyomi wrote:

as Kodora's req

most of these highly suggest you to do

Haku no Arpeggio
00:00:648 (1) - meaningless nc I'm NCing consistently with Vocals
00:35:023 you can not miss this drum,ad with out a note here,00:35:335 (6) - will be hard to read with an empty of 3/2 I'm not following the drums, I'm following the vocals which is Sensen fukoku no~uta~ (~ means to hold that vocal) and the first ~ is 3/2
00:50:179 (7) - i prefer to increase it's spacing with 00:49:866 (6) - ,stack it on 00:50:335 (8) - may be a way the spacing is normal like this
00:52:210 (2) - move it up a bit i think it is still too close to 00:51:585 (1) - the spacing is normal like this

SPOILER
00:53:773 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this pattern is fucking full of misdirection,really looks like 1/2 rhythm
00:54:866 (1) - especially this one,highly suggest you to move it away from 00:54:241 (3) - ,i think you can stack it on 00:53:773 (1) - ,after testing i find no misdirection of it Only if you don't play listening music. Plus the spacing is between 0,99x and 1,03x

00:58:148 (6) - move it down a bit the spacing is normal like this

SPOILER
00:59:710 (4) - this one is like 00:54:866 (1) - ,stack it on 00:59:866 (5) - can solve the problem the spacing is normal like this
[b]

01:12:366 (5,7) - it is better not to use 1/1 slider here,01:13:616 (1,1) - and these two,well this one is not so important
I'm following vocals ( ar(4)-peg(5)-gi(6)-o~(7) )

that's all
hugs yuko and kodora and haku >.</////~~~~~~~
I had already applied the finish suggestions, so there's no need for a new version ^^
Fycho
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Fycho
As Kodora's request.


Black: Suggestions
Blue: Importance.You might consider
Red:Unrank issues. You Must Fix

[ Haku no Arpeggio]

  • 00:09:866 (6,7) –How about Ctrl+G,Since you follow vocals,I think this fits vocals better
    00:32:366 (2) –remove this?there is no vocal imo.
    00:34:866 (5) –Use a 1/2 slider here instead of a note?I think it fits music better.Bothe vocal and drum.
    00:35:804 (7) –I highly suggest you remove this note.It break the rhythm imo,because there is no beat and you set sliderend at big white tick 00:35:335 (6) –.,and just like you set at here00:38:304 –
    00:40:023 (5) –remove note,since you follow vocal at00:39:398 (4) -,the note will be very strange when playing,you can try to have a test.
    00:57:054 (2) –remove note.it plays more smoothly;
    01:23:929 (1,2,3) –how about trying this rhythm,
    It follow the music better and just like 00:18:304 (1,2) -
Good luck
HakuNoKaemi
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Asgard wrote:

request from Kodora

[Haku no Yuko]
00:03:773 (3,4) - 1 grid down, because this is more balanceable shape I don't like how it become
00:32:366 (2,1) - well.. stack on slider 1 You should see how it play, not how it look, since of automatical stacking... well, it stacked in a wrong manner, so I manually stacked
00:39:398 (4) - stack too, i guess you want to make like this pattern, but it doesn't good to see at me You should see how it play, not how it look, since of automatical stacking... well, it stacked in a wrong manner, so I manually stacked
00:52:835 (4,3,3) - lol repeat at 3 times on same place.. these are strange... but it is not problem if you want to keep this pattern, I'm not standing in your way Well, this pattern literally follow vocals, by making it stop and rewind, literally XD
01:06:116 (3) - i think this looks like overlap (1) and (2/3 start) make a curve, actually
01:24:710 (2,3) - stack on slider 1 You should see how it play, not how it look, since of automatical stacking... well, it stacked in a wrong manner, so I manually stacked

Fycho wrote:

As Kodora's request.


Black: Suggestions
Blue: Importance.You might consider
Red:Unrank issues. You Must Fix

[ Haku no Arpeggio]

  • 00:34:866 (5) –Use a 1/2 slider here instead of a note?I think it fits music better.Bothe vocal and drum. It would probably fits better like it is now, since I would prematurely end the note (vocal hold)
    01:23:929 (1,2,3) –how about trying this rhythm,
    It follow the music better and just like 00:18:304 (1,2) -
Done without the repeat in the last slider
Good luck
http://puu.sh/5j3XQ.rar
Koiyuki
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Koiyuki


From moe Kodora's request to mod Hard diff.

[Haku no Arpeggio]
  1. combo colors may be too similar /.\
  2. 00:06:741 (1) - imo this is better :3
  3. 00:41:116 (3) - I recommend to end it at 00:41:429 - and add a note at 00:41:585 - , also end 00:42:054 (3) - at 00:42:366 - and add a note(slider?) at 00:42:523 -
  4. 01:05:335 (2) - missing clap on the end
  5. 01:21:898 (2,4,6) - can also add some claps imo

[Others]
  1. wpcap为什么我看到的mp3文件是32kbps而且长度是8分钟？
  2. In Skystar diff, 01:19:554 (1) - Unsnapped slider (end).
  3. VideoOffset 不一致

That's all.
~
HakuNoKaemi
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[Minakami Yuki] wrote:



From moe Kodora's request to mod Hard diff.

[Haku no Arpeggio]
  1. combo colors may be too similar /.\ Tried to choose a third color for the map, sampled from Takao's hair
  2. 00:06:741 (1) - imo this is better :3 Changed it so it better seem what I want to use ( three curves, with different rotations )
  3. 00:41:116 (3) - I recommend to end it at 00:41:429 - and add a note at 00:41:585 - , also end 00:42:054 (3) - at 00:42:366 - and add a note(slider?) at 00:42:523 - I like the effect I have now
  4. 01:21:898 (2,4,6) - can also add some claps imo It become somewhat too noisy

[Others]
  1. wpcap为什么我看到的mp3文件是32kbps而且长度是8分钟？ Actually, Window's bad at reading Bitrates, use GSpot
  2. VideoOffset 不一致
Yuko-chan, use the video offset of my diff(530), I had found it when I had used the new mp3

That's all.
~
http://puu.sh/5jQvD.rar
Skystar
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wtf can't update anything O_O
HakuNoKaemi
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what kind of error it do?
Kodora
Kodora

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Was asked for mod this

General:

Kiai timings across all diffs aren't the same. Intended? Shouldn't be but Kodora has 5 kiai timings and the others only 3. On Kodora delete the Kiai at 00:10:492 and 01:16:116 It's fine since i'm guest mapper (i just added 2 more fountains)


Kodora:
Lots of unsnapped inherited timing sections, maybe go through and adjustment or make sure that this doesn't effect your hitsounds at all And some of them DO affect D: fixed
00:14:866 (2) - Hidden under the slider of 00:14:241 (4), maybe arrange it so its not under it. It's fine ~.~
01:07:991 (2) - ^ ^
Updated + fixed volume in the end (thanks to Mickey for noticing that). Also fixed preview point

http://puu.sh/5jSyL.osu
Pizzicato
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Pizzicato
you should map more like this
ars nova <3
Skystar
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yeahyeahyeahhh

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Was asked for mod this

General:
Your MP3 is 32kb/s... try to find a better quality one? Try to find a 128kb/s mp3.
Kiai timings across all diffs aren't the same. Intended? Shouldn't be but Kodora has 5 kiai timings and the others only 3. On Kodora delete the Kiai at 00:10:492 and 01:16:116

Skystar:
Lots of unsnapped inherited timing sections, maybe go through and adjustment or make sure that this doesn't effect your hitsounds at all it doesnt matter, hitsounding is fine
01:19:554 (1) - Unsnapped slider-end fixed
00:42:523 - Maybe put a break or a spinner here? as i have said... no
00:50:491 (1) - Covered up too much by the previous slider imo, hard to see. nah it's fine ;-;
01:04:241 (1) - ^
01:05:023 (1,2,1) - This is... IDK what. It looks sloppy and extremely hard to read, 01:05:335 (2) make its all confusing and hard to see 01:05:491 (1). I suggest completely fixing this pattern or whatever you wanna call it. well it's not confusing while playing, also it just fits perfectly with the streams after this imo
01:19:085 (1) - No, just noooooooooooooo stop hiding notes under sliders D: nah ;-; well i stole this pattern from an other map...

Kodora:
Lots of unsnapped inherited timing sections, maybe go through and adjustment or make sure that this doesn't effect your hitsounds at all
00:14:866 (2) - Hidden under the slider of 00:14:241 (4), maybe arrange it so its not under it.
01:07:991 (2) - ^

Normal:
Lots of unsnapped inherited timing sections, maybe go through and adjustment or make sure that this doesn't effect your hitsounds at all

Easy:
Lots of unsnapped inherited timing sections, maybe go through and adjustment or make sure that this doesn't effect your hitsounds at all
omg finally succeeded in updating!!
all diffs updated and fixed video offset, thanks for all mods!
Garven
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Please use the mp3 I uploaded. The one that Haku uploaded is VBR and is screwy with timing.

I'll recheck this in full when I can - a bit low on time sorry.
HakuNoKaemi
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The one I uploaded is yours but re-equalised, though
(I just did something to avoid an excessive loudness)
There's nothing bad in VBR, it could work badly only on old old old pc's
Kodora
Kodora

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

The one I uploaded is yours but re-equalised, though
(I just did something to avoid an excessive loudness)
There's nothing bad in VBR, it could work badly only on old old old pc's
There is one problem
Timing on VBR is screwed up

i asked cube to check it and:

SPOILER
Skystar
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well, updated with Garven's mp3 ;-;
Alarido
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Not a mod. No kd pls (unless you deem as useful).

[Kodora]
00:10:960 (3) - Why not stack it onto (4)'s head? Since many players rage with such note placements at such speed, making a flow-stop from 100 to ~0¹ miles per hour... unless for some players whose could do it without stopping by some advanced technique.
00:14:866 (2) - It feels ok for me, since the movement is not so hard to predict (due to slider shape), and also it 's at least a bit visible (unless you're HD'ing the song or using an opaque skin). However, it would be so tricky for a Hard diff.
00:51:116 (3,4,5,1) - It's mighty fitting to an Insane/Extra diff (not in a Hard), since it requires so advanced playing skills (not possible avoid some lewaminiscence) to predict such movements.
00:57:991 (2) - The head would be visible, although it's so hard to change the placements.
00:59:866 (5) - ^
01:07:991 (2) - But, unlike 00:14:866 (2), slider shape can't tell us right about the underlying note, so it should be visible or, at least, stacked in the head or tail.
01:23:929 (1,2,3) - Considering the spped and the harshness of whole map, it could be changed to a 1/4 repeating slider, since the stop achieved here is the same for triplets and 1/4-repeating sliders.

Hope this map get re-ranked, song is amazing :3

Att.
Garven
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[General]
Something I overlooked initially, sorry: Your combo colors are very very similar. Make them more distinct from each other.
No tick rate 2 on your maps, Yuko? You didn't reply.

Amamiya Yuko wrote:

[Easy]
00:25:469 (1) - This section feels a bit cluttered with hit objects. It's a really calm part in the Easy difficulty. I think simplifying 00:28:282 (1,2,3) - to something like this would fit the pace much better this rhythm sounds weird o.o


It was only an example. I still feel that this is a bit too cluttered rhythmically. See if you can simplify it a little here.

00:42:658 - Insert a break here nope, as i have explained

no, break time is something used for letting player know "oops here's a break time you can rest freely huehue", and here's apparently not suitable to add it.

Is this the reason you explained? Could you reword that? I'm not exactly sure I understand how this applies considering the length of these blank spots.

00:47:345 (2,1,2,3) - This is incredibly boring rhythmically for the start of the kiai section. Spruce it up a bit. Same applies to 00:56:252 (1) - i dont see the problem of it.. since it's an easy diff and i just follow the drums, what's wrong with that?

Because it puts me to sleep. Easy doesn't mean boring. It means that it should be easy to grasp for an new player, but still follow the music well. Following the metronome is technically all of this, but it leads to a map that obviously has little thought put into it.

01:13:910 (1,2,3) - Considering you're reaching the climax, using circles would give a better feeling of amping up. prefer sliders here... also adding circles would be hard for an easy diff

That's the point of "amping it up" a bit. You want to increase the energy, and you can accomplish that by increasing the difficulty slightly. People aren't going to all suddenly fail because of those circles. It will also give them something to try and work on to improve. You have to start somewhere.

Add a spinner somewhere so that there are variable high scores possible.

Any reply to this? You should have a spinner somewhere in the easier difficulties at the least so that high scores aren't stagnant.

[Normal]
00:21:094 - Add a break same as above
00:42:658 - Add a break same
Add a spinner somewhere so that there are variable high scores possible.
01:06:409 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - This is all 1/1. :/ Try giving a little variation in here. It's pretty drab as-is. 01:11:410 (1) - is fine with the 1/1 considering the musical emphasis, but before it, there's plenty to follow that would fit within a Normal's context well it may be a bit boring but i dont think it's a serious problem... If even you are admitting that it's a bit boring, you should have an idea or two on how to make it more enjoyable to play. This is something that people play to have fun, not get bored of.

Kodora wrote:

Anyway,
[General]
Tick rate 2 fits this song best Yes, it fits at most of parts but sadly sounds too busy at the beginning & calm part due to SV changes & songs tempo - this song cries for multiple tickrate ;_;

Looks like you took care of this.

[Kodora]
I think lowering the distance snap during the intro would give a better feeling of transition from the slower part to the faster part when the back kicks in at 00:10:155 - I just do not want to make it too clamped here :<

Considering that you're using 1.5x spacing during a slow intro part, dropping it to 1.25x or something still won't have overlaps and won't feel jumpy like it does now.
And continuing the mod on that diff:

00:13:304 (1,2) - What's up with this close spacing?
00:14:866 (2) - This is unacceptable for a Hard difficulty. Make it less covered please.
00:32:523 (3,4,1) - After all those slower parts, this intro the the next section is nice until you get to the 1/1 rhythms where it's jarringly anti-jumps the entire way. Stop being such a tease. q: Make it more uniform in intensity.
00:36:898 (1,2,1,2) - According to your rhythmic pattern, you shouldn't be moving to 1/2 rhythms until 00:38:148 - though adding a beat at 00:35:491 - would help move things forward a bit.
00:49:241 (2) - This was unexpected. You never did these before - it felt like you were going to do your normal stack thing again like the rest of the map prior.
00:51:273 (4) - ctrl + g flows better
00:51:273 (4,1) - This overlap makes me cry
00:54:866 (1) - This speed up makes no sense musically nor does it fit with your mapping.
01:04:866 (1) - ^
01:07:991 (2) - This is unacceptable for a Hard difficulty. Make it less covered please.
01:23:929 (1,2,3) - Strange that this is the only instance that 3 circles are used

[Haku]
Tick rate 2 fits this song best.
00:00:804 (1) - Remove new combo
Why is your stack leniency so low? Stuff like 00:22:835 (1,2) - isn't stacking properly
00:24:085 (3) - Why a slider? Just use a circle
00:39:398 (4) - That whistle intended?
00:54:241 (3,1) - Eew overlap
01:01:585 (1,2) - Should be stacked
01:05:335 (2,3) - Overlap
01:17:210 (4,5) - Overlap due to stacking.
01:25:257 (1) - End this at 01:26:194 -

[Insane]
00:11:273 (3) - This feels unnecessary considering the strong emphasis in what's going on in the music. The spacing also makes it deceiving when you look at the next tiny combo (that shouldn't be a combo on it's own) Doing something more like what you did at 00:13:616 (2,1,1) - is recommended (except kill all the unnecessary new combos)
I'm not going to name off all the super-short combos. Get rid of them. They screw with the HP Drain metric.
00:38:773 (1,2) - This change in flow just breaks everything you've set up up until this part. I suggest you ctrl + g the 2 slider and adjust the pattern from there.
00:42:523 - Add a break or hit objects.
00:52:210 (1,2,3) - Random triple why?
00:57:835 (2,3) - What is this rhythm. It breaks all the other instances of this part of the music that you mapped.
01:02:210 (5,6,7) - Another random triple. There's nothing to justify this in the music.
01:05:335 (2,1) - This spacing feels way too close after all the jumps right before it.
01:12:210 (1) - This flows better ctrl + g'd
01:16:898 (3) - Here's this thing again from the intro. And all the too-short combos to go with it.
HakuNoKaemi
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Garven wrote:

[Haku]
00:00:804 (1) - Remove new combo Deleted note, since I'm following vocals mostly
Why is your stack leniency so low? Stuff like 00:22:835 (1,2) - isn't stacking properly It shouldn't stack, only 1/2 have to stack. I used it to achieve a "Stop and Start" effect n many parts.
00:24:085 (3) - Why a slider? Just use a circle it fit better since the vocals isn't only in that point and it does give a "portato-like" effect
00:39:398 (4) - That whistle intended? Actually, yes, used a 45% zone to danpen it
00:54:241 (3,1) - Eew overlap I put it here for for a triangle, and, it is the better way I found to achieve the effect I wanted
01:01:585 (1,2) - Should be stacked It shouldn't stack, only 1/2 have to stack. I used it to achieve a "Stop and Start" effect n many parts.
01:25:257 (1) - End this at 01:26:194 - I had made it end onto a dampened Finish sound
See if you like the third colour I'm using (it's sampled from Takao's hair)
http://puu.sh/5lZSM.rar
Garven
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No comment on tick rate 2, Haku? Anyone? ;_;

[Haku]
For the stacked notes, actually 1/1 rhythms -should- stack. Move stack leniency back to default and watch the stacking glory happen.
00:24:085 (3) - If you wanted a portato, I'd reduce the volume on the end of the slider by about half. Right now it's too noisy to give that impression.
00:54:241 (3,1) - I know you're going for a triangle, but it's still overlapping. See if you can reduce the overlapping without compromising your pattern (which will take almost zero effort).
01:25:257 (1) - Why not end it on the last note where it would make more sense as a finishing hit?
HakuNoKaemi
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I'm using in fact tick rate 2 in the last version ( dlable in the post )
Should check the thread, but I had discussed and actually, the stacking is mandatory only to the "faster" notes in the map, in my case 1/2, in Kodora's and Yuko's cases 1/4
ah, that was a fast discussion done when I wasn't there, though, I have nothing to say

http://puu.sh/5mXSe.rar

done all. Was able to remove the overlap with a rotation
or better, I actually want that effect on stacking, examples:
00:02:679 (4,1) - have a better flow if not stacked
00:11:429 (3,4) - 00:30:648 (1,1) - 00:50:491 (1,2) - Those wouldn't look as a partial helix
00:45:648 (1,2,1) - This note, would be less readable if stacked, for example

Ah, I readed the new guideline
Garven
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Derp, musta missed the previous file upload. Was mainly just replying to your message.

The last spinner should be ending on a blue tick: 01:26:194 - ;)
Skystar
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;-; give me a little time Garvensama, will reply to them asap
Kodora
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Alarido

Alarido wrote:

Not a mod. No kd pls (unless you deem as useful).

[Kodora]
00:10:960 (3) - Why not stack it onto (4)'s head? Since many players rage with such note placements at such speed, making a flow-stop from 100 to ~0¹ miles per hour... unless for some players whose could do it without stopping by some advanced technique. Hm, done
00:14:866 (2) - It feels ok for me, since the movement is not so hard to predict (due to slider shape), and also it 's at least a bit visible (unless you're HD'ing the song or using an opaque skin). However, it would be so tricky for a Hard diff. Should be fine for Hard+ diff like this one - (2) also can be readed by approach circle.
00:51:116 (3,4,5,1) - It's mighty fitting to an Insane/Extra diff (not in a Hard), since it requires so advanced playing skills (not possible avoid some lewaminiscence) to predict such movements. Should be fine for Hard+. Those hitobjects keeps same DS, also (1) is easy to read by approachcircle (and also predictable due to form of slider).
00:57:991 (2) - The head would be visible, although it's so hard to change the placements. It's very easy to read head of this slider and imo it flows enough intuitive to predict where it starts.
00:59:866 (5) - ^ ^
01:07:991 (2) - But, unlike 00:14:866 (2), slider shape can't tell us right about the underlying note, so it should be visible or, at least, stacked in the head or tail. Actually, this slider is "cornered" to make this note more readable, and 01:07:835 (1,2,3,4) - making together a straight line (also 01:07:366 (5,1,2,3) - keeps same ds) so it works enough intuitive to predict next note (following approachcircles helps to read too)
01:23:929 (1,2,3) - Considering the spped and the harshness of whole map, it could be changed to a 1/4 repeating slider, since the stop achieved here is the same for triplets and 1/4-repeating sliders. Done


Garven

Garven wrote:

[Kodora]
I think lowering the distance snap during the intro would give a better feeling of transition from the slower part to the faster part when the back kicks in at 00:10:155 - I just do not want to make it too clamped here :<

Considering that you're using 1.5x spacing during a slow intro part, dropping it to 1.25x or something still won't have overlaps and won't feel jumpy like it does now. Redused to x1.30
And continuing the mod on that diff:

00:13:304 (1,2) - What's up with this close spacing? Fixed
00:14:866 (2) - This is unacceptable for a Hard difficulty. Make it less covered please. I asked more BATs and mappers for their opinions about this - it should be fine for advanced hard diff like this one since we already have easiest hard here. Also it's really not hard to read.
00:32:523 (3,4,1) - After all those slower parts, this intro the the next section is nice until you get to the 1/1 rhythms where it's jarringly anti-jumps the entire way. Stop being such a tease. q: Make it more uniform in intensity. Reworked this part.
00:36:898 (1,2,1,2) - According to your rhythmic pattern, you shouldn't be moving to 1/2 rhythms until 00:38:148 - though adding a beat at 00:35:491 - would help move things forward a bit. Fixed
00:49:241 (2) - This was unexpected. You never did these before - it felt like you were going to do your normal stack thing again like the rest of the map prior. That's a little trick to not let HD players FC it in one try - while it still easy to play/read nomod such trap should not case problems it also stolen from other map
00:51:273 (4) - ctrl + g flows better Prefer how it now due to overlapped pattern
00:51:273 (4,1) - This overlap makes me cry nah D:
00:54:866 (1) - This speed up makes no sense musically nor does it fit with your mapping. This little speed-up done to emphazire second part, which actually stronger than first one.
01:04:866 (1) - ^ ^
01:07:991 (2) - This is unacceptable for a Hard difficulty. Make it less covered please. Same as above
01:23:929 (1,2,3) - Strange that this is the only instance that 3 circles are used Changed to 1/4 repeat slider
[/quote]

Thanks for mods

diff
osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: savior of song.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1000
PreviewTime: 45648
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8

[Metadata]
Title:SAVIOR OF SONG (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:SAVIOR OF SONG (TV Size)
Artist:nano feat. MY FIRST STORY
ArtistUnicode:ナノ feat. MY FIRST STORY
Creator:Amamiya Yuko
Version:Kodora
Source:蒼き鋼のアルペジオ
Tags:Skystar Kodora opening Arpeggio of Blue Steel HakuNoKaemi
BeatmapID:313821
BeatmapSetID:121716

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.72
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"1.jpg",0,0
Video,530,"PV.flv"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

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472,176,73148,1,8,0:0:0:0:
344,40,73460,1,8,0:0:0:0:
280,216,73773,6,0,P|272:264|224:320,1,86,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,240,74085,2,0,P|155:279|88:308,1,86,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,184,74398,6,0,P|5:141|26:104,1,86,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
95,159,74710,2,0,P|118:123|154:99,1,86,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,168,75023,6,0,P|240:144|288:128,1,86,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
395,168,75335,2,0,P|360:194|320:208,1,86,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,301,75648,6,0,L|292:357,5,43,8|8|8|8|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,352,76116,6,0,L|224:368|88:336,1,172,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
98,338,76585,1,8,0:0:0:0:
32,256,76741,2,0,L|16:216|40:152,1,86,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
127,55,77054,2,0,L|143:95|128:136,1,86,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,224,77366,2,0,B|224:272|288:240|288:240|320:280,1,172,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,336,77835,1,8,0:0:0:0:
416,248,77991,2,0,L|424:200|456:160,1,86,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
399,42,78304,2,0,L|391:90|368:120,1,86,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,120,78616,1,4,0:0:0:0:
176,112,78929,6,0,L|208:80,2,43,2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,120,79241,2,0,B|88:192|152:208|152:208|136:288,1,172,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,336,79710,1,8,0:0:0:0:
184,344,79866,2,0,L|248:352|304:320|368:320,1,172,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,288,80335,2,0,P|447:248|443:206,1,86,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
371,86,80648,2,0,P|355:125|360:168,1,86,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,264,80960,2,0,L|304:288|256:288,1,86,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,160,81429,6,0,L|96:208,2,43,2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,112,81741,2,0,B|280:144|336:96|336:96|376:120,1,172,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,208,82210,1,8,0:0:0:0:
456,168,82366,2,0,P|488:240|456:344,1,172,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,360,82835,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,320,82991,2,0,B|240:304|240:304|208:368|120:360,1,172,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,264,83460,1,8,0:0:0:0:
56,248,83616,2,0,P|80:200|112:176,1,86,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
199,80,83929,6,0,P|189:61|185:40,2,43,2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
263,150,84241,2,0,P|351:158|407:70,1,172,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,8,84710,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,72,84866,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,168,85023,6,0,P|344:216|376:256,1,86,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,368,85335,2,0,P|298:325|275:289,1,86,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,232,85648,5,8,0:0:0:0:
224,128,85804,1,8,0:0:0:0:
280,224,85960,1,8,0:0:0:0:
112,137,86116,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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HakuNoKaemi
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http://puu.sh/5n96a.rar Gomen, it's me that I'm somewhat fast since I don't have/do - wait I had one- mod requests/maps anymore and can directly cgeck when I'm here
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Garven
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Kodora wrote:

[Kodora]
00:14:866 (2) - This is unacceptable for a Hard difficulty. Make it less covered please. I asked more BATs and mappers for their opinions about this - it should be fine for advanced hard diff like this one since we already have easiest hard here. Also it's really not hard to read.

This isn't acceptable for a Hard difficulty. The circle is completely hidden by the slider body. This is a technique that should be used sparingly in Insane level difficulties. This was designed as a Hard. Make it more visible.

00:36:898 (1,2,1,2) - According to your rhythmic pattern, you shouldn't be moving to 1/2 rhythms until 00:38:148 - though adding a beat at 00:35:491 - would help move things forward a bit. Fixed

You still have premature 1/2ulation at 00:36:898 (1,2,1,2) -

00:49:241 (2) - This was unexpected. You never did these before - it felt like you were going to do your normal stack thing again like the rest of the map prior. That's a little trick to not let HD players FC it in one try - while it still easy to play/read nomod such trap should not case problems it also stolen from other map

It's more about consistency of flow. It breaks your flow up until this point so I have to actually look at the map instead of just playing it and enjoying it. Not a good design move in the long run.

00:51:273 (4,1) - This overlap makes me cry nah D: Real tears yo. They be fallin'

00:54:866 (1) - This speed up makes no sense musically nor does it fit with your mapping. This little speed-up done to emphazire second part, which actually stronger than first one.

If there is an increase in intensity of the music, I sure am not hearing it. Especially to the degree that you're emphasizing it. It plays out of place to the music itself.

01:04:866 (1) - ^

01:07:991 (2) - This is unacceptable for a Hard difficulty. Make it less covered please.
Yuko: No rush. I figure I may as well clean up the guest diffs while waiting for you. q:
Chloe
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I finds those overlaps are not so difficult to read, also not too hard as a hard diff, and now the spread is clear here with the E N H H+ I.
HakuNoKaemi
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now the "Hard for an Hard" won't work, as it isn't called hard.
though the "no Arpeggio" seems cool to add to the diff name XD u,u
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Avena
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Chloe wrote:

I finds those overlaps are not so difficult to read, also not too hard as a hard diff, and now the spread is clear here with the E N H H+ I.
That's because you are at Insane level, so you won't notice it.
It's like saying tattoos don't hurt after you have done 30 of them.
HakuNoKaemi
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Priti wrote:

Chloe wrote:

I finds those overlaps are not so difficult to read, also not too hard as a hard diff, and now the spread is clear here with the E N H H+ I.
That's because you are at Insane level, so you won't notice it.
It's like saying tattoos don't hurt after you have done 30 of them.
It's likely that he IS at Insane level, but assure those overlaps aren't noticeable for an insane player as much as jumps and streams.
I assure those overlaps aren't as hard as you guys think, and that when I was hard level ( I can FC almost all Hards and some Insanes, but cannot play some Insane as now) I could easily play them without Hidden (and with Hidden too, as long as they flowed good, I can play those overlaps with hidden as now too)
Skystar
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Garven wrote:

[General]
Something I overlooked initially, sorry: Your combo colors are very very similar. Make them more distinct from each other.
No tick rate 2 on your maps, Yuko? You didn't reply. TR2 boss Garven!! Well i still prefer TR1... ;-;

[Insane]
00:11:273 (3) - This feels unnecessary considering the strong emphasis in what's going on in the music. The spacing also makes it deceiving when you look at the next tiny combo (that shouldn't be a combo on it's own) Doing something more like what you did at 00:13:616 (2,1,1) - is recommended (except kill all the unnecessary new combos)
I'm not going to name off all the super-short combos. Get rid of them. They screw with the HP Drain metric.
00:38:773 (1,2) - This change in flow just breaks everything you've set up up until this part. I suggest you ctrl + g the 2 slider and adjust the pattern from there.
00:42:523 - Add a break or hit objects.
00:52:210 (1,2,3) - Random triple why?
00:57:835 (2,3) - What is this rhythm. It breaks all the other instances of this part of the music that you mapped. Eh.. I actually dont see the problem of it, it's kind of different with 00:47:679 (3,4) - in the music, if you have listened to it carefully.
01:02:210 (5,6,7) - Another random triple. There's nothing to justify this in the music.
01:05:335 (2,1) - This spacing feels way too close after all the jumps right before it.
01:12:210 (1) - This flows better ctrl + g'd I just stole this pattern from other map made a difference with 01:11:273 (1) - to avoid boring things, also it flows good imo?
01:16:898 (3) - Here's this thing again from the intro. And all the too-short combos to go with it.
Everything i didnt reply to = fixed.
Also all fixed in Easy and Normal.
Updated.
Garven
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[General]
Combo colors are still way too similar.


[Easy]
00:46:116 (1) - Alright, now just give more recovery time after the spinner and we're good to go. Aim for about 3-4 beats for an Easy.

[Insane]
00:45:023 - May as well snap the end of the break here. And maaaybe start the break at 00:43:148 - but it's already weird as a delayed break. I dunno.
There's still rampant new combo spam all over. I'll point them out individually later when I have some time.

Waiting on Kodora to fix the hidden notes.
Skystar
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Garven wrote:

[General]
Combo colors are still way too similar. fixed


[Easy]
00:46:116 (1) - Alright, now just give more recovery time after the spinner and we're good to go. Aim for about 3-4 beats for an Easy. fixed

[Insane]
00:45:023 - May as well snap the end of the break here. And maaaybe start the break at 00:43:148 - but it's already weird as a delayed break. I dunno. snapped the end, but keep start
There's still rampant new combo spam all over. I'll point them out individually later when I have some time. ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-;
Waiting on Kodora to fix the hidden notes.
EDIT: Updated Kodora's diff.
Kodora
Kodora

Garven wrote:

Kodora wrote:

[Kodora]
00:14:866 (2) - This isn't acceptable for a Hard difficulty. The circle is completely hidden by the slider body. This is a technique that should be used sparingly in Insane level difficulties. This was designed as a Hard. Make it more visible. This guideline got changed to Avoid covering up objects with hitbursts, slider tracks, and other objects, especially in easier difficulties. Obscuring objects can make them difficult to read. There can be some exceptions where patterns have a clear and logical path and the timing for these objects can be told easily.. Main point here is real playability - In fact players have almost 300 ms to read this, and such circle plasement at this part shouldn't be real problem with AR 8:

SPOILER

00:36:898 (1,2,1,2) - You still have premature 1/2ulation at 00:36:898 (1,2,1,2) - It follows background guitar (Insane also have same rhythm at this point)

00:49:241 (2) - It's more about consistency of flow. It breaks your flow up until this point so I have to actually look at the map instead of just playing it and enjoying it. Not a good design move in the long run. Changed to manual stack ;___;

00:51:273 (4,1) - Real tears yo. They be fallin' Changed this

00:54:866 (1) - If there is an increase in intensity of the music, I sure am not hearing it. Especially to the degree that you're emphasizing it. It plays out of place to the music itself. Second repetition is also "stronger" than first one. And main point - imo, it will looks boring if second repetition will be same as first.

01:04:866 (1) - ^

01:07:991 (2) - This is unacceptable for a Hard difficulty. Make it less covered please.
Changed this

Yuko: No rush. I figure I may as well clean up the guest diffs while waiting for you. q:
Ulysses
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Garven
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Sorry for the delay in getting back to this. Been busy.

[General]
Charles suggested you add Lum 142 to the Combo color 3.



I talked with Kodora about his difficulty in IRC and offered a pattern suggestion for the covered hitcircle.

[Insane]
So with the new combos, I'm mainly looking at the consecutive new combos used. So the following parts shouldn't really need to have so many new combos:
00:13:616 (2,1,1) -
00:18:616 (2,1,1,1) -
01:12:210 (1,1) -
01:19:241 (2,1,1) -
01:21:741 (2,1,1) -
01:24:085 (2,1,1,1) -
Compare the new combo sequence of 00:16:116 (2,1,1) - to 00:11:116 (2,1,2,3,1) -
00:32:523 (1) - During this part you keep changing from either doing 2 combos per measure (tall white tick) or 1 combo per measure. Make it consistent. It looks tacky.
Skystar
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All fixed.
I wish it should be fine now...

EDIT: updated Kodora's diff.
Garven
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Your wish is my command.
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I love you Garven <3
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Letsu go!
kanpakyin
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Time to get this reranked.

Reranked!

(ノ・ω・)ノ
Broccoly
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Nice
Re-gratz!!!!
Kinomi
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Yuko >3<
slaps kodora
Kodora
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<3

hentai Yomi

EDIT: SOMEONE PLEASE REMOVE ALL SCORES
Scorpiour
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sorry for the inconvenience due to the score issue, please wait a while
Scorpiour
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okay Kytoxid has wiped the score already after reported. so let's put it back
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Scorpiour wrote:

okay Kytoxid has wiped the score already after reported. so let's put it back
Yep. Sorry for the confusion guys, hope not too much was lost from the last half hour or so. D:
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good map
-Neipezi
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congratz skystar & kodora :3/
Pagliaccio
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Finally! Gratz Yuko, Kodora :3
Irreversible
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Ohh, I was just about to get to this... well gz u.u
Makar
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Why do people let difficulty names like these by?
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1151082
Tell me, which is the hard difficulty? You can't say because there is no way to tell.

I mean wow at least some people put it in the description.
It's even more said when the difficulty of Kodora's difficulty used to be there but then it was removed
Faust
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So uh..

for future ranked maps of this song I'd like to mention that this actually goes by "SAVIOR OF SONG (feat. MY FIRST STORY)"

I hope that doesn't down any of the congratulative mood, but yeah.
One could probably go both ways about this since the animated OP and Flying DOG have it as such. (Album tracklisting & meta has it the way I've mentioned)
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Broccoly
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Makar wrote:

You can't say because there is no way to tell.
you can tell from the object count, which is known to work well if the drain times are the same for all the difficulties
Makar
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Broccoly wrote:

Makar wrote:

You can't say because there is no way to tell.
you can tell from the object count, which is known to work well if the drain times are the same for all the difficulties
You cant see this in multiplayer lobby.

Unrank inc.
Irreversible
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Sorry for another unrank , but after a conversation with other BATs we decided that the hard should actually be called [Name of the GDer]'s Hard and not something that People can't tell what diff it should be.

-> Please fix the Name of the hard and call me back for re-rank. Scores won't be wiped!

Also add the romanized title (Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio) to the tags, and check Faust's post as well.

Sorry for inconveniences! :(
Makar
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Renaming to "Kodora's Insane" and "Haku's Hard" should be okay
Darksonic
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Next time, please check these details for future maps, should be obvious that people must know what are they playing, it isn't a really big issue though but difficulties should never be called as an user lol.
Nemis
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...

I can't really explain my disappointment about this unranking. Good luck with re-re-ranking.
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Broccoly
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Then change this please


Nemis wrote:

...

I can't really explain my disappointment about this unranking. Good luck with re-re-ranking.
^
Pagliaccio
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I just call~~~
To say~~~
I UNRUNK U
/me runs

Yuko achievement unlocked "Triple Unranked" yay :D
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peppy
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I can't explain my disappointment at the stupid difficulty names. Good luck with changing them to make sense.
Avena
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Huh, I always complain about bad diff names, but I didn't know its an actual reason to get something unranked.
Andrea
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Moved back to Pending Beatmaps.
Kodora
Kodora

Nemis wrote:

...

Makar wrote:

"Kodora's Insane"
It's hard btw
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Makar
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Priti wrote:

Huh, I always complain about bad diff names, but I didn't know its an actual reason to get something unranked.
t/146542
Kinomi
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Skystar is also a username 233

how about these https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/133813 https://osu.ppy.sh/s/111531
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