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before I aimed it at you: no idea of course.
now: I think doc, though jailkeeper could also be a possibility. I don't think that I'm a redirecting role, since you and quara interacted with each other.
but I have no real evidence myself for what i exactly did. certainly didn't explode in your face.
could I be still vigilante, and you were blletproof, and quara had a roleswitching ability? or would the roleswitch have priority over the vig shot?
now: I think doc, though jailkeeper could also be a possibility. I don't think that I'm a redirecting role, since you and quara interacted with each other.
but I have no real evidence myself for what i exactly did. certainly didn't explode in your face.
could I be still vigilante, and you were blletproof, and quara had a roleswitching ability? or would the roleswitch have priority over the vig shot?
The bulletproof should know if his vest was hit, and nothing of the sort happened to Tsukasa.
Since Tsukasa said he WAS a Secret Role who BECAMEa Mystery Role
and that I WAS a Mystery Role who BECAME a Secret Role
This kinda throws off the 1-shot vig theory, and that I really am some sort of Role Switcher?
It was clearly stated in my message that I was "Mystery Role(Town)" who turned "Secret Role(Town)"
If this was the case, that makes me and Tsukasa clear town.
Tankzlue's role is now kinda meh now, since I wasn't vig so he couldn't have protected Tsukasa from any shot.
Since Tsukasa said he WAS a Secret Role who BECAMEa Mystery Role
and that I WAS a Mystery Role who BECAME a Secret Role
This kinda throws off the 1-shot vig theory, and that I really am some sort of Role Switcher?
It was clearly stated in my message that I was "Mystery Role(Town)" who turned "Secret Role(Town)"
If this was the case, that makes me and Tsukasa clear town.
Tankzlue's role is now kinda meh now, since I wasn't vig so he couldn't have protected Tsukasa from any shot.
A jailkeeper role is just weird in this kind of setup.
The target should also know if he was jailed too.
The target should also know if he was jailed too.
It's impossible for a JK.
If I was JK'd then you could not target me, probably
If I was JK'd then you could not target me, probably
And in addition tanz is still acting scummy. So I don't care either way
I'm okay with a pieguy lynch.
what me, explain plz 0.0
inb4 Qua + RB scumteam
inb4 Qua + RB scumteam
I wondered why Qua mentioned me for seeming no reason till I saw this post
oh wait that's cause there is no logical response cause your whole reasoning is bullshit to begin with
for anyone who wants to know why
not gonna vote RB for now cause the fact everyone is just following the idea of lynching me is just really weird imo.. best way for mafia to not be detected is to just follow others as I said before
okay no. you have done nothing but come up with bullshit reasoning to get me lynched. you also haven't even given any logical response to anything I've countered, alsoRaging Bull wrote:
Why cant we just vote pieguy ? He kept contradicting himself
oh wait that's cause there is no logical response cause your whole reasoning is bullshit to begin with
for anyone who wants to know why
SPOILER
also he's acting so aggressive cause he's just mad I called him out D1 and don't even need a 100% objective reason to do it
hardly ggsI'm doing a lot less hopping around than you did pieguy, your vote on me was based on me rather no lynching or lynch. As you can see, I didn't even vote for any of them. I never made some finalized voting yet because I'm still for lynching someone.nope it's cause you just magically agree with everything that comes up. when people wanted to NL, you wanted to NL. when people wanted to lynch, you suddenly wanted to lynch. easiest way for mafia to be undetected is to just follow what everyone else does
I really don't care if you guys think this is OMGUS. pieguy is just reading scum to me. He's using my "no lynch -> lynch" flip flop as an excuse when he actually did it himself "RB - > Calingo -> RB" flip flop vote.that vote was just temporary till I got an answer from caligno. no point in not voting him for then when there's a possibility what he said is outright impossible
Read my post. How he got his read on Tanz is irrelevant.Questioning him was just trying to get towncred to me.makes it seem like I'm doing something illogical when I'm not
So I can say it backwards, why not use principles earlier than later? I don't think it benefits town to uphold information.misquotes my statement implying I said we should just wait around for a whole day when I never said that
Yet a simple question would suffice, but apparently voting someone who is nowhere near lynch at all = pressure. I will never ever understand that because it makes no sense.voting someone = more pressure than not voting someone, again tries to make it seem like I'm doing something illogical when I'm not
I thought it's funny how you unvoted NL without a reason until the next post. If it was RVS, okay then, but what? Usually you provide a reason for voting and unvoting.cause I realized NL was a bad idea, I unvoted NL in advance and posted my reasoning with my next post, since it was a vote/unvote I wanted to put it there first
It's all you. Don't scum paint anyone else.posted this in response to me offering valid reasoning
And if you're curious, I tried breaking your entire arguement on voting for me, and all you can ever default to is gut feeling. Have some actual solid evidence.I mentioned everything above previously and he just says I "default to gut feeling"
What?okay so here I ask him where I mentioned gut feeling after he started accusing me with BS reasons, and he srsly quoted my original vote and that was it. afaik we're supposed to post reasoning with votes
I don't care what you think of my role now, but when I flip town, please lynch him.
I want to flip as town so everyone can see that pieguy is just voting me for a really weak excuse.
But once I flip town, my job is done.people who say this are 99.99% mafia
also he's acting so aggressive cause he's just mad I called him out D1 and don't even need a 100% objective reason to do it
that was a joke cause Qua blatantly followed RB's BS reasonsBRBP wrote:
inb4 Qua + RB scumteam
not gonna vote RB for now cause the fact everyone is just following the idea of lynching me is just really weird imo.. best way for mafia to not be detected is to just follow others as I said before
okay let's see here
Qua is probably a role switcher and it works so that he switches with whoever he targets. 1-shot anything in this game seems BS because by the time you know what happened it's too late to do anything. also this means we don't even know what Tanz did anymore
now that I think about it a bit more, this doesn't even confirm anyone. it's possible it switches the role someone has without changing alignment, e.g. a town RS could switch with a mafia rolecop and we'd get a town rolecop and a mafia RS
that said, since there was no bulletproof involved it means there probably was no vig either. there could still be a PGO (and would make sense with this setup too), just no one targeted him
Anyway, Tanz thus has to either be an active role who doesn't get any result of some sort, or he's mafia. given how weird he was acting, seems it could be the latter, but we also haven't seen a doctor/JK/etc. (RS probably happens before all other actions) probably one of the 3 who blatantly followed RB without even reading what happened is mafia as I said before. if Qua is mafia that means we started out with a mafia roleswitcher and I'm not sure how likely that even is. I'm leaning town on Tsukasa cause he was kind of apprehensive about telling what happened, seems like he's wary of what drawbacks it could have for mafia.
BRBP, if that's srsly the best you can do then go attack someone who actually has valid evidence against them plz. also you watched the whole thing and didn't even comment instead saying "it seems fake". if you got involved there was the chance we could come up with even more ideas or (if you were town from your perspective) mb out RB or me
you know what, you try to blend in even more than RB does
vote: BRBP
Qua is probably a role switcher and it works so that he switches with whoever he targets. 1-shot anything in this game seems BS because by the time you know what happened it's too late to do anything. also this means we don't even know what Tanz did anymore
now that I think about it a bit more, this doesn't even confirm anyone. it's possible it switches the role someone has without changing alignment, e.g. a town RS could switch with a mafia rolecop and we'd get a town rolecop and a mafia RS
that said, since there was no bulletproof involved it means there probably was no vig either. there could still be a PGO (and would make sense with this setup too), just no one targeted him
Anyway, Tanz thus has to either be an active role who doesn't get any result of some sort, or he's mafia. given how weird he was acting, seems it could be the latter, but we also haven't seen a doctor/JK/etc. (RS probably happens before all other actions) probably one of the 3 who blatantly followed RB without even reading what happened is mafia as I said before. if Qua is mafia that means we started out with a mafia roleswitcher and I'm not sure how likely that even is. I'm leaning town on Tsukasa cause he was kind of apprehensive about telling what happened, seems like he's wary of what drawbacks it could have for mafia.
BRBP, if that's srsly the best you can do then go attack someone who actually has valid evidence against them plz. also you watched the whole thing and didn't even comment instead saying "it seems fake". if you got involved there was the chance we could come up with even more ideas or (if you were town from your perspective) mb out RB or me
you know what, you try to blend in even more than RB does
vote: BRBP
I'd rather vote for Tanz to be honest.
Pieguy's and RB's argument reminds me of the headaches school mafia gave me ._. (I'll go through it later when I'm not exhausted)
Pieguy's and RB's argument reminds me of the headaches school mafia gave me ._. (I'll go through it later when I'm not exhausted)
You've probably realized by now that your points on RB aren't really worth much, and Qua is basically confirmed, so you attacked me.attacking someone several times with BS reasoning, misquoting or outright ignoring what they said in defense, and outright not responding to questions isn't worth much? did you even read the thread
And to me this seems more like an attempt to attack everyone who's willing to vote you (RB -> Qua (joke, maybe not?)-> Me). You've probably realized by now that your points on RB aren't really worth much, and Qua is basically confirmed, so you attacked me.no, it's based off the reasoning that the best way for mafia to go unnoticed is to follow others
example what fartownik did in Stacking the Deck as soon as I accused Dake, even though it was his own teammate
Your reasoning comes down toa lot of people weren't posting cause they weren't there. you, on the other hand, were
*Being one of the people who's willing to vote you
*Being one of the people who didn't participate in your fight (7 out of 9)
as for the first point, see above
I have a headache from this whole thing too, roflRantai wrote:
Pieguy's and RB's argument reminds me of the headaches school mafia gave me ._. (I'll go through it later when I'm not exhausted)
Tanz seems a good enough vote too as I said before, but I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being Doctor or something > <
Rantai wrote:
I'd rather vote for Tanz to be honest.
Pieguy's and RB's argument reminds me of the headaches school mafia gave me ._. (I'll go through it later when I'm not exhausted)
Get your RNG ready.
pieguy1372 wrote:
attacking someone several times with BS reasoning, misquoting or outright ignoring what they said in defense, and outright not responding to questions isn't worth much? did you even read the thread
Give me examples of all 3.
Raging Bull wrote:
Get your RNG ready.
1. every single post you made
2.
3. you didn't respond at all to my last post on D1/N1. not explicitly a question but still something that needs a response, so it's the same idea..
2.
Read my post. How he got his read on Tanz is irrelevant.Questioning him was just trying to get towncred to me.
So I can say it backwards, why not use principles earlier than later? I don't think it benefits town to uphold information.
He's using my "no lynch -> lynch" flip flop as an excuse when he actually did it himself "RB - > Calingo -> RB" flip flop vote.there were others just too lazy to find more
3. you didn't respond at all to my last post on D1/N1. not explicitly a question but still something that needs a response, so it's the same idea..
yeah you did, good job
I can't really defend against that besides what I already said. my reasoning was more logically sound than RB's reasoning was, and I didn't try to mislead people by quoting things wrong or ignoring stuff etc.
I'm still not sure what I think about all the other people btw. iirc I already talked about everyone besides Rantai and fartownik
Rantai seems town to me as he's considering all possibilities and not doing anything reckless. I think fartownik is town cause he seems to be posting less than in Stacking the Deck when he was mafia, but maybe it's just me and I'm not sure how reliable meta from just the one game can even be..
I can't really defend against that besides what I already said. my reasoning was more logically sound than RB's reasoning was, and I didn't try to mislead people by quoting things wrong or ignoring stuff etc.
I'm still not sure what I think about all the other people btw. iirc I already talked about everyone besides Rantai and fartownik
Rantai seems town to me as he's considering all possibilities and not doing anything reckless. I think fartownik is town cause he seems to be posting less than in Stacking the Deck when he was mafia, but maybe it's just me and I'm not sure how reliable meta from just the one game can even be..
Okay, so obviously Quarezha is a Role Switcher, unless he's planned this with Tsukasa, which I doubt could happen. They're not confirmed Town yet because there's a technical possibility one is scum without lying about the night action, but I think Tsukasa is most likely Town and he confirms Quara so he's probably Town as well.
I don't really have anything for the lynch today yet... I will re-read the entire thread because I kinda lost the leads for playing 2 games at once.
@mod: when's the deadline?
I don't really have anything for the lynch today yet... I will re-read the entire thread because I kinda lost the leads for playing 2 games at once.
@mod: when's the deadline?
I just realized that it's absurd if a Role Switcher PR is able to switch Alignments as well.
If that were the case, a mafia who turned townie can just screw over his partner now that his win condition is that of town now.
And I really hope Tsukasa isn't bullshitting us saying he gained a Mystery Role just to convince everyone that both he and I are town.
Guess we'll just have to wait until he "switches" with someone else tonight in hopes that they'd confirm such action too.
The deadline should be around 1-2 days left.
I believe pieguy defended himself well and gave some valid points about BRBP
So...
vote: BRBP
If that were the case, a mafia who turned townie can just screw over his partner now that his win condition is that of town now.
And I really hope Tsukasa isn't bullshitting us saying he gained a Mystery Role just to convince everyone that both he and I are town.
Guess we'll just have to wait until he "switches" with someone else tonight in hopes that they'd confirm such action too.
The deadline should be around 1-2 days left.
I believe pieguy defended himself well and gave some valid points about BRBP
So...
vote: BRBP
*blending in to avoid being caughtBRBP wrote:
*Being one of the people who's willing to vote you
*Being one of the people who didn't participate in your fight (7 out of 9)
*Being one of the people skimming through the thread to avoid 24h of inactivity when you were fighting and not posting(1 out of 9)
Assuming this is about RB, you call this blending in?blending in of course until he got caught, then he went into madness mode to try to get me lynched instead
I'm also intrested in why you didn't vote for RB again after all what you said about him.cause I thought it was really really weird how three people just suddenly agreed to lynch me. best strategy for mafia is to just follow others
BRBP wrote:
Unless you're (pieguy) intentionally removing names from your quotes to make it look like RB's nonsense was said by me (like you said), I'd really like to know why you're doing it.
BRBP wrote:
intentionally removing names from your quotes to make it look like RB's nonsense was said by me
BRBP wrote:
RB's nonsense
BRBP wrote:
RB
pieguy1372 wrote:
inb4 Qua + RB scumteam
pieguy1372 wrote:
I checked your previous posts and apparently you like to remove names from quotes, so maybe you weren't trying to scumpaint with that. You shouldn't do that, though...also, if you were serious. that is an incredibly weak and easily caught way of scumpainting people that no one would ever do it ever ever ever
oh wait you're just trying to get me lynched cause you're mafia with RB
1) Same as you. First it was my so called flip flop, then started saying im over reacting just because I'm questioning you even more and more because I'm not pleased with any of your answers.pieguy1372 wrote:
1. every single post you made
2.Read my post. How he got his read on Tanz is irrelevant.Questioning him was just trying to get towncred to me.So I can say it backwards, why not use principles earlier than later? I don't think it benefits town to uphold information.He's using my "no lynch -> lynch" flip flop as an excuse when he actually did it himself "RB - > Calingo -> RB" flip flop vote.there were others just too lazy to find more
3. you didn't respond at all to my last post on D1/N1. not explicitly a question but still something that needs a response, so it's the same idea..
2) You know I cannot understand anything you quote without explaining why it's misquoted.
3) Well okay then
How does it not count? Is it really just a filler then? Okay we will consider it a filler! Few questioning later, you then started saying "gut feeling gut feeling gut feeling"pieguy1372 wrote:
..
RB I can't tell if you're serious or trolling
or just mafia
if you're serious, you were referring to me just "going back" to gut feeling. that doesn't count cause at that point you hadn't questioned me using gut feeling. that was just one of the reasons I included with my vote, cause afaik we're supposed to include reasons with votes.
srsly, just give it up already. probably you're mad cause I called you out D1 and you're making up insane reasons and wrong logic to try to get me lynched instead. I voted you and you just completely caved. but it doesn't matter cause we're NL'ing anyway
if something happens N1 that puts you as town, I'll think about it differently
I'm serious. If you realized it, you first said
Check the bolded part.pieguy1372 wrote:
except I haven't even mentioned gut feeling except for when you ask what my initial reasons for voting you were or ask I elaborate on the reasons. which you've mentioned like 12 times instead of asking new questions
1) Same as you. First it was my so called flip flop, then started saying im over reacting just because I'm questioning you even more and more because I'm not pleased with any of your answers.except my logic is actually sound, you're just making stuff up and repeating what you say over and over
3) Well okay then.......
...
no, just no. you literally used just half of my sentence to change the meaning of what I said. that's complete BS and is just one of the reasons I'm accusing you
seriously, you literally used just half of my sentence to change the meaning of what I said. I don't care if I shouldn't use bold, that is just the worst argument I've seen ever
also, you said I was mentioning "gut feeling" whenever you asked me anything
all you can ever do is keep going back into your gut feeling argument
keep going backthen I asked you where and you only mentioned MY ORIGINAL VOTE. that's not "going back", it's "including reasoning with votes"
now that you're coming with nonsense arguments again I almost feel like voting you just for that
How is it not compared to yours when it's the exact god damn thing that you said? FLIP FLOP.pieguy1372 wrote:
1) Same as you. First it was my so called flip flop, then started saying im over reacting just because I'm questioning you even more and more because I'm not pleased with any of your answers.except my logic is actually sound, you're just making stuff up and repeating what you say over and over
lol what? Is there actually anything on that paragraph worth mentioning? This is what I readpieguy1372 wrote:
.......
no, just no. you literally used just half of my sentence to change the meaning of what I said. that's complete BS and is just one of the reasons I'm accusing you
seriously, you literally used just half of my sentence to change the meaning of what I said. I don't care if I shouldn't use bold, that is just the worst argument I've seen ever
"Serious or trolling or mafia? Serious - > Argument about gut feeling does not count because you did not mention it in the first place until you got questioned. Just one reason included because we vote with a reason.
give up, im mad because D1. Making up BS reason and wrong logic to get you lynched. You voted me and I caved. "
What else was there to read?
I bolded that part because you contradicted yourself.
I said you keep going back because you do. You keep mentioning gut feeling after every god damn time I questioned you more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more. and more.
And if you're talking about not answering question, then please why did not ignore quote 2. Explain why those quotes were misquoted. Unless you can't.
@Mod
Deadline and votecount, pls
Prod: Tsukasa/Tanz/Rantai ._.
Requesting that the day is extended if there's less than 24h left
RB, why aren't you voting then?
Afraid that I might flip scum and you'd be lynched next?
You two keep fighting and fighting but nothing happens. This is basically why I still think that's fake.
Deadline and votecount, pls
Prod: Tsukasa/Tanz/Rantai ._.
Requesting that the day is extended if there's less than 24h left
RB, why aren't you voting then?
Afraid that I might flip scum and you'd be lynched next?
You two keep fighting and fighting but nothing happens. This is basically why I still think that's fake.
Raging Bull wrote:
So Tsukasa is either mystery role or VT (since more than likely bulletproof or deathproof is one shot).
@Q, did it specifically say that you visited Tsukasa? Or did you just get a "You are secret role now" from Kanye? If that's true, there is also a possibility of a roleblocker in this game.
Don't know about you guys, but
Vote:pieguy
what?
all my posts are explaining why your logic sucks, it just sounds the same thing repeatedly cause you're saying the same thing repeatedlyRaging Bull wrote:
How is it not compared to yours when it's the exact god damn thing that you said? FLIP FLOP.
...SERIOUSLYRaging Bull wrote:
What else was there to read?
I bolded that part because you contradicted yourself.
except I haven't even mentioned gut feelingTHIS
except I haven't even mentioned gut feeling except for when you ask what my initial reasons for voting you were or ask I elaborate on the reasonsDOES NOT MEAN THE SAME THING AS THIS
WTF AAAAAAAARGH
nope, I've said this many times and you've not refuted it at all, cause it's just incorrectRaging Bull wrote:
I said you keep going back because you do. You keep mentioning gut feeling after every god damn time I questioned you more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more. and more.
sorry I forgotRaging Bull wrote:
And if you're talking about not answering question, then please why did not ignore quote 2. Explain why those quotes were misquoted. Unless you can't.
Read my post. How he got his read on Tanz is irrelevant.Questioning him was just trying to get towncred to me.just completely ignored the part where I mentioned how it was relevant trying to get people to not notice it
So I can say it backwards, why not use principles earlier than later? I don't think it benefits town to uphold information.I was asking why we can't scumhunt on D2 the same way we do on D1 with no information. this still includes scumhunting D1. you make it seem like it doesn't
He's using my "no lynch -> lynch" flip flop as an excuse when he actually did it himself "RB - > Calingo -> RB" flip flop vote.made it seem like my vote was an actual attempt to lynch someone instead of a vote to get him to explain his reasons, also made it seem like it's the same thing you're doing to try to get people to lynch me and not you
RB, why aren't you voting then?this post really makes no sense, he is already voting, and he's not even voting you..
Afraid that I might flip scum and you'd be lynched next?
EBWOP
name is necessary this time cause I have quotes from RBBRBP wrote:
RB, why aren't you voting then?
Afraid that I might flip scum and you'd be lynched next?
I literally get nothing out of the RB-pieguy fight.
they are both fighting nonsensically hard and aggressive. could mean both are scum, or both are town. or one scum and one town.
this doesn't really help. at all.
by only having this discussion and no real night action results, most peple actually don't really say anything. which means that we can't scumhunt at all.
I advise you two (RB and pieguy) to lay your fights aside, because in the interest of town, we should actually try to hunt scum.
atm we have the camp BRBP+RB versus pieguy+Qua. the actions between tsukasa and qua didn't confirm anyone. sadly, my action also didn't confirm me.
I really don't know what to do, as there is either not really anything to read into (because almost no posts by the person) or it's nonsensical to try to read into it since it's just the same thing over and over again (RB and pieguy).
they are both fighting nonsensically hard and aggressive. could mean both are scum, or both are town. or one scum and one town.
this doesn't really help. at all.
by only having this discussion and no real night action results, most peple actually don't really say anything. which means that we can't scumhunt at all.
I advise you two (RB and pieguy) to lay your fights aside, because in the interest of town, we should actually try to hunt scum.
atm we have the camp BRBP+RB versus pieguy+Qua. the actions between tsukasa and qua didn't confirm anyone. sadly, my action also didn't confirm me.
I really don't know what to do, as there is either not really anything to read into (because almost no posts by the person) or it's nonsensical to try to read into it since it's just the same thing over and over again (RB and pieguy).
there's also the idea that D1 I vote by gut feeling and no one ever gets this pissed off about it, generally anyone who counterattacks so hard ends up mafia, LOL
either way, I'm not sure night results would help. we've got 1 mystery role, 1 secret role, and 1 roleswitcher. assuming there's a doctor, they wouldn't get anything. so to prevent the doctor figuring out who he is there's another mystery role that doesn't get information, imo roleblocker would really fit this setup, not sure if town or mafia though. probably mafia but town roleblockers can exist, wouldn't surprise me at all to have this for the sake of confusion
I assume there are 2 mafia. If roles were distributed evenly, we'd get 1 mafia mystery role (probably the roleblocker) and 1 mafia secret role, maybe a bulletproof or smth. Then we'd either have as town 2~4 mystery roles + the roleswitcher. we know Tanz and Caligno were two of them so there's up to 2 mystery roles left. If there's another investigative role, the worst thing would be if they died, so in that case I recommend not claiming, but I think it should be fine if mystery roles who didn't get anything back claim...
also probably people should say if anything happened to them (but I bet everyone would have done that by now)
problem is mafia can blatantly lie about just about everything and no one would know
either way, I'm not sure night results would help. we've got 1 mystery role, 1 secret role, and 1 roleswitcher. assuming there's a doctor, they wouldn't get anything. so to prevent the doctor figuring out who he is there's another mystery role that doesn't get information, imo roleblocker would really fit this setup, not sure if town or mafia though. probably mafia but town roleblockers can exist, wouldn't surprise me at all to have this for the sake of confusion
I assume there are 2 mafia. If roles were distributed evenly, we'd get 1 mafia mystery role (probably the roleblocker) and 1 mafia secret role, maybe a bulletproof or smth. Then we'd either have as town 2~4 mystery roles + the roleswitcher. we know Tanz and Caligno were two of them so there's up to 2 mystery roles left. If there's another investigative role, the worst thing would be if they died, so in that case I recommend not claiming, but I think it should be fine if mystery roles who didn't get anything back claim...
also probably people should say if anything happened to them (but I bet everyone would have done that by now)
problem is mafia can blatantly lie about just about everything and no one would know
No. I read as much as I could before kicking a dog.
Vote: Tanz
RB and pieguy, you two need to get yourselves sorted.
Vote: Tanz
RB and pieguy, you two need to get yourselves sorted.
No, because I know he's mafia.
Also I don't care if you all vote for me, as long as you guys vote for him D3.
Okay, tbh I don't see anything scummy in pieguy nor RB (besides their fight itself), it looks like an internal Town - Town fight, both giving the arguments only they can understand, nothing that would bring up my attention.
Everything seems to be around Tanz, I don't like the coincidence that he targeted Tsukasa somehow along with Quarezha the same night and also got nothing to confirm his action.
BRBP might be scum since he only basically dropped by to defend himself when he got attacked by pieguy, but his defence stand pretty strong. Not only defending himself, but fighting back with reasonable arguments seem like Town behavior.
About Tsukasa and Quarezha - one of them is 100% Town, because I don't think they'd target each other during the night if they were scum. Only one of them is confirmed Town because the other can still be lying. In this case it's Tsukasa, because Qua claimed his action pretty quickly, right after the day started + he quoted (intentionally?) his actual alignment from the PM (not sure if this modkillable, I guess not).
Vote: Tanzklaue
Everything seems to be around Tanz, I don't like the coincidence that he targeted Tsukasa somehow along with Quarezha the same night and also got nothing to confirm his action.
BRBP might be scum since he only basically dropped by to defend himself when he got attacked by pieguy, but his defence stand pretty strong. Not only defending himself, but fighting back with reasonable arguments seem like Town behavior.
About Tsukasa and Quarezha - one of them is 100% Town, because I don't think they'd target each other during the night if they were scum. Only one of them is confirmed Town because the other can still be lying. In this case it's Tsukasa, because Qua claimed his action pretty quickly, right after the day started + he quoted (intentionally?) his actual alignment from the PM (not sure if this modkillable, I guess not).
Vote: Tanzklaue
I personally still think that sukasa is scum, same reasons as before.
and since I can't really read into this game at all, I don't have anyone else.
so
Vote: Tsukasa
and since I can't really read into this game at all, I don't have anyone else.
so
Vote: Tsukasa
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
Let me know if there's mistakes.
17 hours until voting deadline.
Prod has been sent to Tsukasa.
BRBP - pieguy1372, Quaraezha
Tanzklaue - Rantai, fartownik
pieguy1372 - Raging Bull
Tsukasa - Tanzklaue
Tanzklaue - Rantai, fartownik
pieguy1372 - Raging Bull
Tsukasa - Tanzklaue
Let me know if there's mistakes.
17 hours until voting deadline.
Prod has been sent to Tsukasa.
k we need to do shit
no point requesting extension cause then it'll end up being 24 more hours of inactivity
I'm sticking with BRBP for now cause nothing has happened whatsoever. something needs to happen already > <
no point requesting extension cause then it'll end up being 24 more hours of inactivity
I'm sticking with BRBP for now cause nothing has happened whatsoever. something needs to happen already > <
BRBP wrote:
That's a really bad move...Raging Bull wrote:
Also I don't care if you all vote for me, as long as you guys vote for him D3.
A townie has no reason to vote himself, and it won't make you any less scummy if you're willing to risk it like that. Lynching you doesn't prove pieguy is scum anyway...
Not that I'd mind, I'd vote you after pieguy anyway, lol.
Still, I'd rather lynch pieguy first...
@Mod, c'mon...
god what the hell, do you even read? I didn't even vote for myself.
Isn't weird that Rantai and fartownik suddenly went on just to vote Tanzklue, a potential Mystery Role?
And here you are again... your argument makes no sense. What else was I supposed to do? I reviewed the thread again and got my own conclusions, thus my vote on Tanz. Also again - most of us are potential Mystery Roles tbh, Tanz is only different because he claimed. Not like that would stop me from voting a potential scum.Quaraezha wrote:
Isn't weird that Rantai and fartownik suddenly went on just to vote Tanzklue, a potential Mystery Role?
Suddenly?
I'm pretty sure one of my earlier posts outlines why I voted Tanz.
I'm pretty sure one of my earlier posts outlines why I voted Tanz.
quara started this day doubting my action, doubting the usefulness of my role, and even doubting my mytery role claim overall.
and now he says again that my role could be potentially useful and that it is suspicious for people to vote for me?
after a day 1 that left me as the biggest scumsuspect and a day 2 that brought up virtually nothing?
I don't know about you guys, but I get major scumvibes from that.
Vote: Quaraezha
and now he says again that my role could be potentially useful and that it is suspicious for people to vote for me?
after a day 1 that left me as the biggest scumsuspect and a day 2 that brought up virtually nothing?
I don't know about you guys, but I get major scumvibes from that.
Vote: Quaraezha
good god someone fucking vote BRBP already
RB + BRBP best scumteam 2014
RB + BRBP best scumteam 2014
/late
Guys how many to hammer? Because I am so going to intent if there's a chance
Seriously?Tanzklaue wrote:
I personally still think that sukasa is scum, same reasons as before.
and since I can't really read into this game at all, I don't have anyone else.
so
Vote: Tsukasa
Double seriously?Tanzklaue wrote:
quara started this day doubting my action, doubting the usefulness of my role, and even doubting my mytery role claim overall.
and now he says again that my role could be potentially useful and that it is suspicious for people to vote for me?
after a day 1 that left me as the biggest scumsuspect and a day 2 that brought up virtually nothing?
I don't know about you guys, but I get major scumvibes from that.
Vote: Quaraezha
Guys how many to hammer? Because I am so going to intent if there's a chance
if you vote me now then I am most likely dead.Tsukasa wrote:
/lateSeriously?Tanzklaue wrote:
I personally still think that sukasa is scum, same reasons as before.
and since I can't really read into this game at all, I don't have anyone else.
so
Vote: TsukasaDouble seriously?Tanzklaue wrote:
quara started this day doubting my action, doubting the usefulness of my role, and even doubting my mytery role claim overall.
and now he says again that my role could be potentially useful and that it is suspicious for people to vote for me?
after a day 1 that left me as the biggest scumsuspect and a day 2 that brought up virtually nothing?
I don't know about you guys, but I get major scumvibes from that.
Vote: Quaraezha
Guys how many to hammer? Because I am so going to intent if there's a chance
and i think qua and tsukasa are scum. I think that pieguy and RB fight a town vs town fight, BRBP is as far as I'm concerned town aligned aswell. rantai and fart definetly get a townread from me, as they seem to be the only ones not contradicting themselves constantly and not fighting meaningless fights.
qua just flip flops heavily, first he says at the start of day 2 that I am not to be believed and that my mystery role is not a valid reason to not lynch me, and then he swings back on his opinion to attack the 2 guys I think are most definetly town.
tsukasa was so overly aggressive and nitpicky on me, trying to carry the RV on me out to an easy lynch, and then attacking me, even slightly insulting me. he also only tunneled on me, was superconcerned about confirming qua, and didn't help at all to find scum the whole time. he also randomly voted for rantai at day 1 for even sillier reasons than he had for me.
overall, this game suffers from inactivity. if town wants to win, day 3 has to be a pressure fest. and the dumb and unnecessary fights have to end. they don't help town to find scum.
I also find it funny how tsukasa reads my voting on him as scummy behaviour, when he himself is just ridiculously tunneled on me.
also, why would tsukasa want to know how much it takes to hammer? he should vote regardless of the chance ofa hammer, especially considering how much time is left until the deadline.
also, why would tsukasa want to know how much it takes to hammer? he should vote regardless of the chance ofa hammer, especially considering how much time is left until the deadline.
for me BRBP might as well have roleclaimed mafia
also iirc there's 2 hours left I think
it's probably earlier though > <
it's probably earlier though > <
We can move the pressure fest earlier, D2.Tanzklaue wrote:
overall, this game suffers from inactivity. if town wants to win, day 3 has to be a pressure fest. and the dumb and unnecessary fights have to end. they don't help town to find scum.
Like pressuring Tanz.
Because obviously you state intent to hammer before hammering.Tanzklaue wrote:
I also find it funny how tsukasa reads my voting on him as scummy behaviour, when he himself is just ridiculously tunneled on me.
also, why would tsukasa want to know how much it takes to hammer? he should vote regardless of the chance ofa hammer, especially considering how much time is left until the deadline.
hell looking at it even more I have no idea what to think
that NL was like the worst thing ever, we got no information whatsoever from that. now I almost feel like voting RB again or maybe Tanz
that NL was like the worst thing ever, we got no information whatsoever from that. now I almost feel like voting RB again or maybe Tanz
WHEN DAFUQ WAS NL D1 A GOOD IDEA?!pieguy1372 wrote:
hell looking at it even more I have no idea what to think
that NL was like the worst thing ever, we got no information whatsoever from that. now I almost feel like voting RB again or maybe Tanz
Finally you understand.
NL would be fine on MyLo or shit like that
I understood since before D1 even ended
FoS Tsukasa not reading the thread
FoS Tsukasa not reading the thread
Hey. It's not only directed to you, brother.
Anyways... What's tanz's standing? Too lazy to count votes
Anyways... What's tanz's standing? Too lazy to count votes
mod: can we get a 24 hour extension plz
we need to figure stuff out first
we need to figure stuff out first
I still say pieguy is mafia but I'll go and put away our shit for today then.
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
Let me know if there's mistakes. (fixed, didn't catch BRBP's vote before)
Deadline extended by 24 hours, a little over 25 hours remain.
pieguy1372 - Raging Bull, BRBP
BRBP - pieguy1372, Quaraezha
Tanzklaue - Rantai, fartownik
Quaraezha - Tanzklaue
BRBP - pieguy1372, Quaraezha
Tanzklaue - Rantai, fartownik
Quaraezha - Tanzklaue
Let me know if there's mistakes. (fixed, didn't catch BRBP's vote before)
Deadline extended by 24 hours, a little over 25 hours remain.
my vote is on qua kanye
Tanz, people seem to think Qua is town due to his role interaction with Tsukasa. Why did you vote for him?
Where did you get that?
Tanzklaue wrote:
quara started this day doubting my action, doubting the usefulness of my role, and even doubting my mytery role claim overall.
and now he says again that my role could be potentially useful and that it is suspicious for people to vote for me?
after a day 1 that left me as the biggest scumsuspect and a day 2 that brought up virtually nothing?
I don't know about you guys, but I get major scumvibes from that.
Vote: Quaraezha
Where did you get that?
I got that from here.Quaraezha wrote:
Isn't weird that Rantai and fartownik suddenly went on just to vote Tanzklue, a potential Mystery Role?
I was just a little convinced that both Rantai and fartownik want to lynch Tanzklue.
Because a) He's an easy target who makes a lot of mistakes, and easy to make a point when trying to lynch him
b) He claimed a mystery role, so if he really is a mystery role, that would be a plus for Mafia
I'm not trying to defend Tanz but I just think it's weird.
But I'm probably just too distracted by pieguy/BRBP/Raging Bull's silly arguments.
That and it's impossible for both me and Tsukasa to be Mafia.
Because no other Town Mystery Roles made a report other than Tanzklue
If there are more Mystery Roles in town, they would've reported already because having around 4-5 town MR's are too many.
There might be one hiding, but that's understandable if there's really nothing to report.
Because a) He's an easy target who makes a lot of mistakes, and easy to make a point when trying to lynch him
b) He claimed a mystery role, so if he really is a mystery role, that would be a plus for Mafia
I'm not trying to defend Tanz but I just think it's weird.
But I'm probably just too distracted by pieguy/BRBP/Raging Bull's silly arguments.
That and it's impossible for both me and Tsukasa to be Mafia.
Because no other Town Mystery Roles made a report other than Tanzklue
If there are more Mystery Roles in town, they would've reported already because having around 4-5 town MR's are too many.
There might be one hiding, but that's understandable if there's really nothing to report.
Tanz: Seriously answer that.
Isn't it because you both think we're scum?
Isn't it because you both think we're scum?
I answered already.
you really should read more carefully.
you really should read more carefully.
So this IS your final answer?Tanzklaue wrote:
I got that from here.Quaraezha wrote:
Isn't weird that Rantai and fartownik suddenly went on just to vote Tanzklue, a potential Mystery Role?
uhm, yea?
I mean, RB asked from where I got the idea that qua again argues on my potential use as PR, I gave the quote from where I got this read, what's your point?
I mean, RB asked from where I got the idea that qua again argues on my potential use as PR, I gave the quote from where I got this read, what's your point?
Because if you actually had the reason as me and qua being scum then I could have said you were town.
Because no scum would actually call both of us liars. Only town people do that
Obviously you didn't.
And you actually moved up a scum level
Because no scum would actually call both of us liars. Only town people do that
Obviously you didn't.
And you actually moved up a scum level
I don't have much experience with Tanz, but I just think he's a clumsy/unhelpful unconfirmed mystery townie.
Especially after voting me
Especially when you said that both of us are scum
Tanzklaue wrote:
I personally still think that sukasa is scum, same reasons as before.
and since I can't really read into this game at all, I don't have anyone else.
so
Vote: Tsukasa
Then QuaTanzklaue wrote:
quara started this day doubting my action, doubting the usefulness of my role, and even doubting my mytery role claim overall.
and now he says again that my role could be potentially useful and that it is suspicious for people to vote for me?
after a day 1 that left me as the biggest scumsuspect and a day 2 that brought up virtually nothing?
I don't know about you guys, but I get major scumvibes from that.
Vote: Quaraezha
[/quote]Tanzklaue wrote:
if you vote me now then I am most likely dead.
and i think qua and tsukasa are scum. I think that pieguy and RB fight a town vs town fight, BRBP is as far as I'm concerned town aligned aswell. rantai and fart definetly get a townread from me, as they seem to be the only ones not contradicting themselves constantly and not fighting meaningless fights.
qua just flip flops heavily, first he says at the start of day 2 that I am not to be believed and that my mystery role is not a valid reason to not lynch me, and then he swings back on his opinion to attack the 2 guys I think are most definetly town.
tsukasa was so overly aggressive and nitpicky on me, trying to carry the RV on me out to an easy lynch, and then attacking me, even slightly insulting me. he also only tunneled on me, was superconcerned about confirming qua, and didn't help at all to find scum the whole time. he also randomly voted for rantai at day 1 for even sillier reasons than he had for me.
overall, this game suffers from inactivity. if town wants to win, day 3 has to be a pressure fest. and the dumb and unnecessary fights have to end. they don't help town to find scum.
Especially when you said that both of us are scum
what?
me saying you and qua are both scum would make me town?
a) why even?
b) I said earlier that I believe you and qua are scum, so why do you ask that again?
c) why do you take my answer to RBs question as answer to yours? it was clearly directed at RB, so again, what is your point?
me saying you and qua are both scum would make me town?
a) why even?
b) I said earlier that I believe you and qua are scum, so why do you ask that again?
c) why do you take my answer to RBs question as answer to yours? it was clearly directed at RB, so again, what is your point?
A) Because only town would be the only people to think that both Qua and I are lying. It's actually a fact.
B) Final determination if you are scum or town.
C) I just noticed the chance
B) Final determination if you are scum or town.
C) I just noticed the chance
@Tanzklue: You just keep answering questions with more questions rather than answering them.
so you take an answer to a question that wasn't even yours and judge on that?Tsukasa wrote:
A) Because only town would be the only people to think that both Qua and I are lying. It's actually a fact.
B) Final determination if you are scum or town.
C) I just noticed the chance
you didn't even ask me directly, you answered iin my stead to RB.
yes, I think you are both scum. but that wasn't the point of RBs question.the point of it was WHY I thought qua was scum. I answered his question perfectly fine, and from that you concluded that I must be scum. because I didn't say "I think tsukasa and qua are scum together", which i already said earlier though, but apparently that statement makes me scummier again.
am I really the only one who sees this nonsensical madness?
@qua: I answered RBs question, and after that I didn't answer any question with a question.
Tanzklaue wrote:
@qua: I answered RBs question, and after that I didn't answer any question with a question.
Tanzklaue wrote:
what?
me saying you and qua are both scum would make me town?
a) why even?
b) I said earlier that I believe you and qua are scum, so why do you ask that again?
c) why do you take my answer to RBs question as answer to yours? it was clearly directed at RB, so again, what is your point?
those weren't answers. those were legitimate questions, because I just don't get him anymore.Quaraezha wrote:
Tanzklaue wrote:
@qua: I answered RBs question, and after that I didn't answer any question with a question.Tanzklaue wrote:
what?
me saying you and qua are both scum would make me town?
a) why even?
b) I said earlier that I believe you and qua are scum, so why do you ask that again?
c) why do you take my answer to RBs question as answer to yours? it was clearly directed at RB, so again, what is your point?
I man, to what question should they even be an answer?
Obviously because a direct question is always bad and dumb.Tanzklaue wrote:
so you take an answer to a question that wasn't even yours and judge on that?Tsukasa wrote:
A) Because only town would be the only people to think that both Qua and I are lying. It's actually a fact.
B) Final determination if you are scum or town.
C) I just noticed the chance
you didn't even ask me directly, you answered iin my stead to RB.
yes, I think you are both scum. but that wasn't the point of RBs question.the point of it was WHY I thought qua was scum. I answered his question perfectly fine, and from that you concluded that I must be scum. because I didn't say "I think tsukasa and qua are scum together", which i already said earlier though, but apparently that statement makes me scummier again.
am I really the only one who sees this nonsensical madness?
@qua: I answered RBs question, and after that I didn't answer any question with a question.
And to be fair.
I did ASK you for a confirmation. You confirmed it
yes, I agree, it is pretty dumb to ask a question in a way that it is actually a question and actually understandable.
you asked me on confirmation on my answer to RBs question, and I gave you that. like i said, you didn't even ask me about me saying that you and qua are scum.
you asked me on confirmation on my answer to RBs question, and I gave you that. like i said, you didn't even ask me about me saying that you and qua are scum.
That's because you're hallucinating.
This is not nonsensical madness. You're the only one who sees it like that.
And if you can actually understand why you saying that Qua and I are buddies together would make you town, then you wouldn't see it as madness.
But then again if you knew how to answer me, Then I can never confirm you.
Ergo, you scumz
This is not nonsensical madness. You're the only one who sees it like that.
And if you can actually understand why you saying that Qua and I are buddies together would make you town, then you wouldn't see it as madness.
But then again if you knew how to answer me, Then I can never confirm you.
Ergo, you scumz
No no no.
The question is not about why Qua and I are scum.
The reason is why you vote Qua
And to top that off, why you vote Qua after you vote me. THEN saying that both of us are scum
The question is not about why Qua and I are scum.
The reason is why you vote Qua
And to top that off, why you vote Qua after you vote me. THEN saying that both of us are scum
if it's so easy, then please, anyone: explain it. why would me thinking tsukasa and qua are scum make me town.
the reason why you are scum is that you are senselessly aggressive against me, to a point where it is just ridiculous.
the reason I suspect qua (see the difference "is" and "suspect") is because he basically goes down on my 2 best townreads in this mess using an argument contradictionary to what he said earlier (he even doubted my claim at the start of day 2, so why should he argue on me being a mystery role?)
I first voted you in the vague hope that anyone actually listens to me instead of fighting a pointless fight and to get you lynched, because I am convinced that you are scum.
I then voted qua, because pressuring someone who you think might be scum to get more info out of them is just the way you should play as town. again, nobody listened to me, instead still arguing over RB and pieguy.
I then said that i think that both of you are scum, because that's just the case. while I am not completly sure with qua, I am completly sure with you, and since you are y only leads here, I go with them.
the reason why you are scum is that you are senselessly aggressive against me, to a point where it is just ridiculous.
the reason I suspect qua (see the difference "is" and "suspect") is because he basically goes down on my 2 best townreads in this mess using an argument contradictionary to what he said earlier (he even doubted my claim at the start of day 2, so why should he argue on me being a mystery role?)
I first voted you in the vague hope that anyone actually listens to me instead of fighting a pointless fight and to get you lynched, because I am convinced that you are scum.
I then voted qua, because pressuring someone who you think might be scum to get more info out of them is just the way you should play as town. again, nobody listened to me, instead still arguing over RB and pieguy.
I then said that i think that both of you are scum, because that's just the case. while I am not completly sure with qua, I am completly sure with you, and since you are y only leads here, I go with them.
I forsee pieguy vs RB: Tsukasa vs Tanzklaue version.
Truthfully, I cannot understand this also
Truthfully, I cannot understand this also
A) Because only town would be the only people to think that both Qua and I are lying. It's actually a fact.