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Ken Ashcorp - 20 Percent Cooler (Alex S. Remix)

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Topic Starter
p3n
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 2. September 2013 at 01:54:43

Artist: Ken Ashcorp
Title: 20 Percent Cooler (Alex S. Remix)
Tags: Rainbow Dash Rarity Pinkie Pie Twilight Sparkle Applejack Spike Fluttershy MLP My Little Pony Friendship is Magic
BPM: 110
Filesize: 6694kb
Play Time: 03:51
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (4,23 stars, 348 notes)
  2. Beginner (2,08 stars, 204 notes)
  3. Challenging (4,99 stars, 597 notes)
Download: Ken Ashcorp - 20 Percent Cooler (Alex S. Remix)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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For MoonShade, because without this guy I would've never started to map or mod anything.


Thanks to Card N'FoRcE for the amazing SB!
Topic Starter
p3n
adding one star myself because I finally decided to upload something \o/
qianchunhang
THANK YOU MAKE A GOOD MLP BEATMAP,Please accept a stars.
Liiraye
M4M! :D

General
Ok. First of all you have the wrong offset. Use this 4357, resnap all notes
You need a second timing point here 19652 (ctrl+p), resnap all notes again and have your spinner end here 00:21:833
Recheck all your green timing points and change them accordingly
Remember to fix the spinner ends of all your diffs after the timing change

Beginner
00:26:742 (2,3) These could be coated better
00:37:106 end spinner here
01:03:288 NC
01:31:106 NC
01:31:652 remove NC
01:34:379 NC
01:31:106 (1,2) coat better
01:53:470 (1,2,3) Align these straight
02:08:742 NC
02:11:470 (2,3) coat these two
02:30:561 NC
02:52:379 NC
03:03:288 (1,2) the distance between the two seem too short
03:04:379 (3,4) coat better
03:09:833 NC
03:18:561 NC

Advanced
00:50:197 (1,2,3) All these three can be coated better
00:58:924 (1,2,3) same here
01:01:652 (3,4) coat better
01:07:652 (1,2,3) and here
01:22:652 coat these better also
01:22:924 remove NC
01:25:106 NC
01:25:652 (5,6,1) coat these better
01:31:106 NC
01:31:652 remove NC
01:34:379 (5) NC
01:38:197 NC
01:42:561 NC
01:42:833 note here
01:46:652 NC
01:49:652 (2,3,4) would look cool if you coated these
01:52:379 (4) this slider should end here instead 01:53:470 (thus removing the next combo 1)
02:04:379 remove NC
02:08:742 NC
02:21:833 NC
02:27:015 (2,3) coat better
02:34:652 (5,1,2) same here
02:44:742 (5,1) coat better
02:44:742 (5,3) stack better
02:54:833 (1,1,1,1) remove NC
03:03:288 (1,2,1,2) these should be symmetrical
03:04:379 (2,3,4) coat better
03:18:561 NC
03:27:288 NC
03:31:652 NC
03:36:833 (2,3) coat better
03:44:742 (1,2,3) coat better

Challenging
00:06:531 remove NC
00:07:622 NC
00:08:713 remove NC
00:09:804 NC
00:10:895 remove NC
00:22:895 (4,5) You could coat these better, but I also think that the unsnapped distance there feels a bit awkward
00:24:833 (2,4) Make these equally distanced
00:37:106 end your spinner here
00:42:015 remove NC
00:43:106 remove NC
00:46:652 NC
00:51:015 00:51:561 remove these two NC's and keep the one in the middle
00:55:652 make this combo a 1/4 repeat and remove this note 00:56:061
00:59:470 remove NC
00:59:470 remove NC
01:00:561 remove NC
01:04:924 add note here and move 01:05:061 this slider here 01:05:197 and you might want to ctrl+G it
01:08:197 fix this slider like the similar one I pointed out earlier with NC's
01:22:924 remove NC
01:24:561 NC
01:25:106 remove NC
01:28:924 NC
01:30:015 this one feels timed wrong, I highly suggest removing 1 repeat on it and placing a note there instead
Having that, 01:31:106 place NC here
01:31:652 remove NC
01:34:379 two sliders here sounds so much better and follows the vocals like this (use your own slider style) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/886295
01:42:288 NC
01:42:561 remove NC
01:44:470 NC
01:44:742 remove NC
01:46:652 NC
01:48:561 NC
01:51:561 NC
01:55:924 NC
02:00:833 NC
02:06:015 (1,2,3,4) pls no NC :(
02:21:833 NC
02:26:742 remove NC
02:27:833 remove NC
02:31:379 NC
02:40:379 (6,7,8) Do this instead, http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/886313 place the sliders however you wish, but use these lenghts
02:48:833 NC
02:55:379 remove NC
02:57:561 remove NC
03:03:833 remove NC
03:04:106 NC
03:13:924 NC
03:27:288 I'd shorten this by 1 repeat and add a note or slider after instead
03:36:561 remove NC
03:37:652 remove NC
03:41:197 NC
03:45:288 fix NC's pls
Topic Starter
p3n
mod reply Liiraye's mod

Liiraye wrote:

M4M! :D

General
Ok. First of all you have the wrong offset. Use this 4357, resnap all notes
You need a second timing point here 19652 (ctrl+p), resnap all notes again and have your spinner end here 00:21:833
Recheck all your green timing points and change them accordingly
Remember to fix the spinner ends of all your diffs after the timing change

ok I changed the offset slightly because I was getting some late hits as well. Happens if you change the bitrate of the mp3 after mapping everything with the 320kbps original...

I can't see the need for a second timing point. The whole song is arranged with one BPM and no changes.


Beginner
00:26:742 (2,3) These could be coated better slightly
00:37:106 end spinner here ending on 1/8
01:03:288 NC
01:31:106 NC
01:31:652 remove NC
01:34:379 NC
01:31:106 (1,2) coat better ok
01:53:470 (1,2,3) Align these straight I liked the slight variation but you couldn't notice it anyway while playing so might as well make it a straight line for being pretty in the editor
02:08:742 NC
02:11:470 (2,3) coat these two ok ok ;)
02:30:561 NC
02:52:379 NC
03:03:288 (1,2) the distance between the two seem too short perfect 0,8x spacing with slight displacement due to grid snapping
03:04:379 (3,4) coat better
03:09:833 NC
03:18:561 NC

Advanced
00:50:197 (1,2,3) All these three can be coated better
00:58:924 (1,2,3) same here
01:01:652 (3,4) coat better
01:07:652 (1,2,3) and here
01:22:652 coat these better also ok, have to disable grid snapping and go over all of the blankets again to make sure this wont be brought up again :P
01:22:924 remove NC removed
01:25:106 NC why? no change here
01:25:652 (5,6,1) coat these better
01:31:106 NC
01:31:652 remove NC
01:34:379 (5) NC
01:38:197 NC
01:42:561 NC
01:42:833 note here
01:46:652 NC
01:49:652 (2,3,4) would look cool if you coated these right. done ;)
01:52:379 (4) this slider should end here instead 01:53:470 (thus removing the next combo 1) no, the percussions are in a 3/4 pattern
02:04:379 remove NC changed
02:08:742 NC
02:21:833 NC
02:27:015 (2,3) coat better
02:34:652 (5,1,2) same here
02:44:742 (5,1) coat better
02:44:742 (5,3) stack better
02:54:833 (1,1,1,1) remove NC
03:03:288 (1,2,1,2) these should be symmetrical right. looks better now
03:04:379 (2,3,4) coat better done with the symmetrical rearrangement
03:18:561 NC
03:27:288 NC
03:31:652 NC
03:36:833 (2,3) coat better
03:44:742 (1,2,3) coat better

Challenging
00:22:895 (4,5) You could coat these better, but I also think that the unsnapped distance there feels a bit awkward placed them better to have minimal overlapping for the crossing. Unsnapped distance? What is that? If you mean the 0,6x compressed stream distance that is still used here then: yes, this is intended ;)
00:24:833 (2,4) Make these equally distanced my bad...
00:37:106 end your spinner here I will end the spinners 1/8 before the downbeat which is the exact last note in the drum roll
00:51:015 00:51:561 remove these two NC's and keep the one in the middle the NCs in these parts are non-negotiable because they are the theme of this map
00:55:652 make this combo a 1/4 repeat and remove this note 00:56:061 hmm I tried but it doesn't make any sense. I'll stick to the baseline for this combo
01:04:924 add note here and move 01:05:061 this slider here 01:05:197 and you might want to ctrl+G it ok I kinda see what you want me to do here but I came up with a slightly different solution
01:08:197 fix this slider like the similar one I pointed out earlier with NC's again the NCs are the theme and will stay ;)
01:30:015 this one feels timed wrong, I highly suggest removing 1 repeat on it and placing a note there instead it is not wrong. it just follows the 1/6 rhythm of the vocals
01:34:379 two sliders here sounds so much better and follows the vocals like this (use your own slider style) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/886295 I like the predictable baseline follow for this combo
02:40:379 (6,7,8) Do this instead, http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/886313 place the sliders however you wish, but use these lenghts might try something similar for the lower diffs but here I think the mix of baseline follow with vocal follow is just perfect
03:27:288 I'd shorten this by 1 repeat and add a note or slider after instead 1/6 endings are hard to predict...almost frustrating. I'll stick to the 3-repeat sliders because this is one of the really rare instances those actually make any sense



Thanks for your mod! I'll start my part of the m4m later today as soon as I am home again.
Card N'FoRcE
I was waiting for this.

- General: (Considerations and things you need to check/fix for the whole map)
  • This mod will make the map 20% cooler.
- Beginner:
  1. .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    02:04:356 (3) - this gives me orgasms.
  2. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:56:174 - a beat here would be very intuitive, also you used it already in 02:39:810 (4,5)
    A little thing i noticed. Every 1/1 spaced beat generates exactly one followpoint That works incredibly well for the choice you did not to overlap 1/2 spaced beats, so here's a few little fixes regarding that:
    00:50:174 (3) - 02:34:901 (3) - this generates 2 followpoints instead of one.
    01:29:174 (3) - this generates 2 followpoints instead of one.
    01:38:174 (4) - unfortunately this generates a followpoint, even if it's hidden and barely visible.
    02:12:537 (3) - 03:22:356 (3) - unfortunately this generates a followpoint, even if it's hidden and barely visible.
    02:47:719 (3) - this generates 2 followpoints instead of one.
  3. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    00:34:901 (1) - the end of the spinner was snapped to the blue tick before :p
- Advanced:
  1. .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    Raise AR to 6 and OD to 5? Doing this would also make those values scale better to the other difficulties' (beginner has AR4 OD3, challenging has AR8 OD7) Don't worry about the star rating, it would go from 4.18 to 4.22 and wouldn't mess up your spread.
  2. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    01:56:719 (4) - missing drum-finish on the repetition?
    01:58:901 (2,3) - i think the drum-claps are weird here
    02:55:901 (1,1) - the only drum whistles in the whole map? xD Well i actually think they fit well, why not use them for the other difficulties as well?
  3. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    00:34:901 (1) - the end of the spinner was snapped to the blue tick before :p
    02:02:174 (1) - missing normal-sampleset at the beginning
- Challenging:
  1. .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    Mandatory "PLS PLS PLS HP6, CS5, AR8, OD8 PLS PLS PLS".
  2. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:55:492 (5) - (nazi) 1 or 2 grid to the left? There's not a slider before this so the same "bumpness" of the other patterns doesn't really work well.
    03:15:810 (1,2,3,4) - should be "rainbow"'d like 02:05:992 (1,1,1,1)
  3. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    00:34:901 (1) - the end of the spinner was snapped to the blue tick before :p
EDIT: i see you specified that you changed the spinners on purpose, but i still belive they work better if snapped on the /4 from a playing perspective (and they sound better because the drums go in "pairs" in that section, while the clap sound doesn't :< )
Topic Starter
p3n
thanks CnF :)

I'll apply changes and go over the mod in detail as soon as I am home again today!
Topic Starter
p3n
mod reply CnF

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

I was waiting for this. And you already helped alot with your feedback during tha actual mapping process

- General: (Considerations and things you need to check/fix for the whole map)
  • This mod will make the map 20% cooler. awwww yizz

- Beginner:
  1. .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    02:04:356 (3) - this gives me orgasms. "And this is how you do it, kids." - p3n
  2. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:56:174 - a beat here would be very intuitive, also you used it already in 02:39:810 (4,5) good catch. Added a slider to match the beat and the following 1/2 (also the transition was much easier to do without changing much of the next pattern)

    A little thing i noticed. Every 1/1 spaced beat generates exactly one followpoint That works incredibly well for the choice you did not to overlap 1/2 spaced beats, so here's a few little fixes regarding that: this is a really nice way of saying "dude you fucked up the spacings here!" - I like that ;)
    00:50:174 (3) - 02:34:901 (3) - this generates 2 followpoints instead of one. fixed to 0,8x
    01:29:174 (3) - this generates 2 followpoints instead of one. fixed to slightly below 1,2x
    01:38:174 (4) - unfortunately this generates a followpoint, even if it's hidden and barely visible. sub-pixel slider anchor movement to the rescue!
    02:12:537 (3) - 03:22:356 (3) - unfortunately this generates a followpoint, even if it's hidden and barely visible. ok this was easy to fix
    02:47:719 (3) - this generates 2 followpoints instead of one. ok this needs 1,16x instead of 1,2x to generate only one...weird
  3. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    00:34:901 (1) - the end of the spinner was snapped to the blue tick before :p yeeees I will change it back to 1/4. I was listening to the spinner ending countless times with various speed settings and the 1/4 ending works so much better with the clap
I went on and took care of 3 other places where 2 followpoints appeared instead of 1


- Advanced:
  1. .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    Raise AR to 6 and OD to 5? Doing this would also make those values scale better to the other difficulties' (beginner has AR4 OD3, challenging has AR8 OD7) Don't worry about the star rating, it would go from 4.18 to 4.22 and wouldn't mess up your spread. ok so back to the original settings :P I started out with these exact settings but when I was at the 50% milestone the star rating went nuts and was 4.74
  2. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    01:56:719 (4) - missing drum-finish on the repetition? oops
    01:58:901 (2,3) - i think the drum-claps are weird here indeed...drum finish was intended
    02:55:901 (1,1) - the only drum whistles in the whole map? xD Well i actually think they fit well, why not use them for the other difficulties as well? I changed it to normal sampleset just like in challenging and beginner
  3. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    00:34:901 (1) - the end of the spinner was snapped to the blue tick before :p yeees yeeeesssss
    02:02:174 (1) - missing normal-sampleset at the beginning it is there oO
- Challenging:
  1. .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    Mandatory "PLS PLS PLS HP6, CS5, AR8, OD8 PLS PLS PLS". don't tempt me...
  2. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:55:492 (5) - (nazi) 1 or 2 grid to the left? There's not a slider before this so the same "bumpness" of the other patterns doesn't really work well. My mistake. This must have happened when I applied changes for the mod before. Fixed!
    03:15:810 (1,2,3,4) - should be "rainbow"'d like 02:05:992 (1,1,1,1) HOW COULD I MISS THIS
  3. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    00:34:901 (1) - the end of the spinner was snapped to the blue tick before :p still yeeeessss
EDIT: i see you specified that you changed the spinners on purpose, but i still belive they work better if snapped on the /4 from a playing perspective (and they sound better because the drums go in "pairs" in that section, while the clap sound doesn't :< ) I know I know...I spend some time to think about it and in the end I came back to the way I originally mapped it

This is the first time I feel like I was actually careful while mapping something. Every combo I placed was insta-modded by myself and I had great feedback (positive and negative) during the creation-process. Even looking back and playing the maps with some distance I still like what I did here (except for 'Advanced' - the ugly duckling).


qianchunhang wrote:

THANK YOU MAKE A GOOD MLP BEATMAP,Please accept a stars.
Thank you for the stars and the nice words, glad you enjoy this map!
Weblade
Hi it's a good map but you have somening overlap
Diff challenging
first overlap :
00:14:446 (5,7)
second overlap :
01:28:083 (3,4)
Third overlap :
02:07:356 (3,5)
overlap :
03:17:174 (3,5)
Advanced
first overlap :
00:16:765 (7,1)
second overlap :
01:58:083 (1,2)
third :
02:17:992 (4,6)
fourth :
02:43:083 (2,3)
PS: For the Advanced i think you can up the AR too 7 .
Topic Starter
p3n

[ StormBlade ] wrote:

Hi it's a good map but you have somening overlap
Diff challenging
first overlap :
00:14:446 (5,7)
second overlap :
01:28:083 (3,4)
Third overlap :
02:07:356 (3,5)
overlap :
03:17:174 (3,5)
Advanced
first overlap :
00:16:765 (7,1)
second overlap :
01:58:083 (1,2)
third :
02:17:992 (4,6)
fourth :
02:43:083 (2,3)
PS: For the Advanced i think you can up the AR too 7 .

Glad you like this map :D

These "overlaps" are cross-ups and intended. They are not a "bad" thing to have as long as they are readable and don't hide the most important gameplay elements like circles, ending points or repeat arrows ;)

I have AR6 in 'Advanced' because it is a good match for the SV in this map. I would even go as far as lowering it to AR5 but only because it makes the map very enjoyable with HR since it will boost it to perfect "Hard" settings. But I shouldn't map with mods in mind so I changed it to AR6 and I think this is a good compromise.
Card N'FoRcE

p3n wrote:

But I shouldn't map with mods in mind
*AHEM *

You know what i'm coughing about.
Topic Starter
p3n

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

*AHEM *

*runs*
dkun
yoooo this map is amazing

hit me up when you feel like you need a BAT

thanks to cnf for showing this to me (have some stars too!) 8-)
Shohei Ohtani
It's funny because dkun asked me to mod this and it was already next in queue priority so like um

I'm here for both, lol

Insane:
00:04:356 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Song-related issue, but I'm always confused by what this is following. It's not so much your fault as it is the ambiguity of the song right here
00:23:446 (5) - This seems confusingly close to (4). It might be easier to read if it was moved
00:34:901 (1) - I'd rather have this end on the white tick. Like I know what you're mapping to having it on the blue tick, but it sounds incomplete doing it there
00:42:537 (1,2) - Move this to avoid possible overlap?
00:50:992 (1,2,1,2,1) - Why the different combocolors here?
00:59:446 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^
01:08:446 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^
01:09:537 (2) - Would play a lot more natural if this note was at roughly y:350 or something on the y-axis
02:04:356 (5) - Raise the endpoint a little bit so it seems more like a completed curve rather than a messed up shape
02:06:128 (1,1,1) - Remove NC
02:26:719 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^
02:45:674 (5) - Even out the spacing here since (4) and (1) are the same distance on the timeline
02:50:174 (1) - Make this curve more notable (Try to blanket (2) maybe?)
02:58:628 (1) - WOOOOOOOOO (It's really sudden and without a tick or something and it feels weird in comparison to the rest of the map being very relaxed)
03:15:946 (1,1,1) - Remove NC
03:36:537 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^
03:45:537 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^

Hard:
00:31:628 (1,1,1) - Remove NC
00:34:901 (1) - Same as Insane
00:40:356 (4) - Is this going for a ~ slider look?
01:02:174 (4) - This curve is so small that it looks like a mistake
01:58:901 (2) - This curve should be a little more notable. Right now it looks almost straight
02:54:810 (1,1,1,1) - Remove NC

Normal:
00:30:537 (1,2) - Like it's fine theoretically but I have a thing against large straight sliders like this. I'll point it out as a concern but you don't like desperately need to change it

p3n is best BAT
sheela
[Beginner]
02:04:356 (3) - Move the little red square down to one grid and two gird to the left
02:42:537 (2) - NC?
02:54:537 (1,2,3,4) - Something like this?

[Advanced]
01:31:083 (6) - NC?
02:46:901 (3) - Ctrl+J, Ctrl+H and Ctrl+G?

[Challenging]
00:32:719 - Put the slider velocity at 1.10x; 00:33:265 - at 0.90x; 00:33:810 - at 0.70x; 00:34:356 - at 0.50x

Good Luck!
Topic Starter
p3n
Have been away for one week without any access to the web...so a bit late with the reply. I'll go over the mods in detail as soon as I get home!


EDIT:

@dk00n:

dkun wrote:

yoooo this map is amazing 20% cooler and it will be amazing ;)

hit me up when you feel like you need a BAT *cough*

thanks to cnf for showing this to me (have some stars too!) 8-) hehe, no wonder I see many replies despite not being at home at all this week!
Glad you liked it, dkun! Thanks a lot for your stars! I might bug you about that BAT-mod as soon as I am 99% satisfied with this mapset (or my time runs out) ;)


@CDFA:
Thanks for the thorough mod, CDFA! I really appreciate it. I hope the combo patterns didn't annoy you too much because I know they are silly and all but you'll see why they are essential for this map in the mod reply ;)
mod reply CDFA

CDFA wrote:

It's funny because dkun asked me to mod this and it was already next in queue priority so like um

I'm here for both, lol oh right, I remember your queue :D

Insane:
00:04:356 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Song-related issue, but I'm always confused by what this is following. It's not so much your fault as it is the ambiguity of the song right here I had two options: mapping exactly after the melody or setting the pace for the "slow" 110 BPM with sliders. I wanted to do the more accessible way becase this remix seems not fit for a really hardcore/extreme mapping style.
00:23:446 (5) - This seems confusingly close to (4). It might be easier to read if it was moved I know exactly what you mean. The reason why I used the 0,60x distance spacing for the two sliders was the overall cursor speed for this whole combo is very consistent. It is basically a long compressed "stream" even if it is slow. Having the 1,00x distance for (4,5) makes for a weird "jumpy" movement here. It is tricky to read this on distance alone but it should feel much more smooth.
00:34:901 (1) - I'd rather have this end on the white tick. Like I know what you're mapping to having it on the blue tick, but it sounds incomplete doing it there I had so much trouble finding a good solution for this part. I know it would feel more comfortable to end on the downbeat but it would add something that, when you know this song because you've heard it countless times, just feels wrong because there is nothing on this silent downbeat to match the spinner ending. Also silencing the ending to match the silent downbeat feels dirty for me. I am not 100% happy with how it turned out but I just can't see a solution that works better at the moment.
00:42:537 (1,2) - Move this to avoid possible overlap? moved (1) a bit to reduce the overlap with 00:41:992 (1) - (now less than 50% are covered and it should be easier to read)
00:50:992 (1,2,1,2,1) - Why the different combocolors here? the THEME!!! I always do something to a) make something "unique" that fits the whole map+song+bg+meta concept and b) annoy everyone while doing so
00:59:446 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^
01:08:446 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^
01:09:537 (2) - Would play a lot more natural if this note was at roughly y:350 or something on the y-axis OK, tried different positions and keeping the jump distance for the next part is tricky.
02:04:356 (5) - Raise the endpoint a little bit so it seems more like a completed curve rather than a messed up shape yup, fixed the whole curve a bit and moved a bit to the middle of the previous triangle pattern to make it blend in better
02:06:128 (1,1,1) - Remove NC
02:26:719 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^
02:45:674 (5) - Even out the spacing here since (4) and (1) are the same distance on the timeline makes sense. Even if the spacings for the slider streams are consistent, the transition between patterns was not 100% clear.
02:50:174 (1) - Make this curve more notable (Try to blanket (2) maybe?) Definitely! Had to cut the distance a bit but looks much cleaner now.
02:58:628 (1) - WOOOOOOOOO (It's really sudden and without a tick or something and it feels weird in comparison to the rest of the map being very relaxed) WOOOOOOOOOO - ok I'll take the advice and I'll put this on the "probably overdid it here"-list. I'll experiment with different SV multipliers or shapes to see if I can find something worthy to replace this one (because somehow it fits sooooo well)
03:15:946 (1,1,1) - Remove NC
03:36:537 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^
03:45:537 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^

Hard:
00:31:628 (1,1,1) - Remove NC
00:34:901 (1) - Same as Insane
00:40:356 (4) - Is this going for a ~ slider look? think of it like a ~ form but instead of the slider add the (5) circle to the pattern to make it complete since it fits the wubwub with that nice ending touch on (5)
01:02:174 (4) - This curve is so small that it looks like a mistake fixed curve and rearranged pattern slightly
01:58:901 (2) - This curve should be a little more notable. Right now it looks almost straight changed to have both curves almost identical and rearranged following slider to fix spacing
02:54:810 (1,1,1,1) - Remove NC

Normal:
00:30:537 (1,2) - Like it's fine theoretically but I have a thing against large straight sliders like this. I'll point it out as a concern but you don't like desperately need to change it I agree it is a bit of a lazy pattern. I changed it to something more sophisticated ;)

p3n is best BAT I don't know about that. I hope moving and therefore spending considerable less time commuting will free up enough time for me to be active again


@sheela901:
Thanks for the mod! Even if I didn't use your suggested pattern 1:1 it flows a bit better now.
mod reply sheela901

sheela901 wrote:

[Beginner]
02:04:356 (3) - Move the little red square down to one grid and two gird to the left the position is the exact position to match the drumroll in the song. I can't change it without calling the wrath of multiple osu-gods on me.
02:42:537 (2) - NC? hmmmm...can't see why
02:54:537 (1,2,3,4) - Something like this? right, the pattern looks crooked right now. I didn't use your exact pattern but a slight variation of it.
picture

[Advanced]
01:31:083 (6) - NC? doesn't fit the beat pattern imo
02:46:901 (3) - Ctrl+J, Ctrl+H and Ctrl+G? hmm looks interesting but I don't like the partial overlap of the sliders. I changed the curve a bit to avoid it. Feels smooth.

[Challenging]
00:32:719 - Put the slider velocity at 1.10x; 00:33:265 - at 0.90x; 00:33:810 - at 0.70x; 00:34:356 - at 0.50x ascending SV multipliers work better with the buildup of the song imo. It is a nice suggestion but I can't use it with the direction I had in mind for this particular difficulty

Good Luck! Thanks! :)






Picking up some pace here or so it seems. I might really finish this in time 8-)
ZLOdeuka-
hi! m4m!

OMG, bg <3

[Beginner]

00:34:901 (1) - need to finish it here 00:37:083 and go to the next tick and click "Insert Break Time"

01:46:901 (1) - remove new combo

[Advanced]

01:23:992 (3) - may do so http://puu.sh/3WTNy.jpg

01:57:810 (1,2) - spacing. 01:58:628 (x) add circle

[Challenging]

00:25:628 (5) - align the end of a 00:24:810 (2) Combo

01:52:083 (8) - http://puu.sh/3WUQN.jpg think it sounds better

http://puu.sh/3WV6G.png I do not know whether there are reasons it... I probably would argue with you about that :P

02:58:628 (1) - it may be worth a warning?

your map is ideal. I can not find fault with anything ._.

Nice map and song!!! :3
Topic Starter
p3n
Thanks for the m4m ZLOdeuka :3

I'll apply changes and comment on all points as soon as I had something for dinner.
Card N'FoRcE
Before you apply those changes:

This will make the map 120% cooler.

You need to replace the difficulties as well, yes (widescreen SB toggle and a few edits with finishes hitsounds, feel free to replace as you like).
Topic Starter
p3n
Thanks again for the mod ZLOdeuka :)
mod reply ZLOdeuka

ZLOdeuka- wrote:

hi! m4m!

OMG, bg <3 wait until you see CnF's SB o.o

[Beginner]

00:34:901 (1) - need to finish it here 00:37:083 and go to the next tick and click "Insert Break Time" the draintime with the OD here allows for <50% hp to survive this without problem. I'd like to keep this part clean without flashing arrows. But your point is valid...it is not a very "clean" way I am using here

01:46:901 (1) - remove new combo fixed!

[Advanced]

01:23:992 (3) - may do so http://puu.sh/3WTNy.jpg tried it...but I can't do it without changing the following combo and with that all the follow ups will break apart. I will leave it like this and just look at the slider tick that is almost on the horizon and feel slightly more happy with this pattern ;)

01:57:810 (1,2) - spacing. 01:58:628 (x) add circle added circle

[Challenging]

00:25:628 (5) - align the end of a 00:24:810 (2) Combo I tried but the slider would have to be faster with ~1,04x BPM and I don't want to do that ;_; I hope nobody notices this in play-mode

01:52:083 (8) - http://puu.sh/3WUQN.jpg think it sounds better yes also sounds very good - but I want to keep the focus on the background percussion here

http://puu.sh/3WV6G.png I do not know whether there are reasons it... I probably would argue with you about that :P hmm they are the different slider speeds and one sampleset change ;)

02:58:628 (1) - it may be worth a warning? hmmm I think the missing slider ticks are enough to tell but I'll consider it

your map is ideal. I can not find fault with anything ._.

Nice map and song!!! :3

Thanks for your time and mod. Glad you like this map (and the song really IS great).


Card N'FoRcE wrote:

This will make the map 120% cooler.
OH. MY. '§$%.

This...is brilliant. I wanted to do a SB back when I mapped this but peppy hadn't activated the widescreen SB flag without editing the .osu files. It works so well that it makes me grin like a maniac :D I will use it and (of course) credit you!
bomber34
Beginner
  1. 02:04:356 (3) - NC. Die Melodie hat im Zusammenspiel mit dem Slider so einen "Aufladeeffekt". Daher fände ich einen NC hier recht cool
  2. Ja die Map hier finde ich eigentlich fehlerlos. Da gibt es nix großartig zum verbessern. Ich bin zwar der Meinung, dass die sehr langen Slider in der KIAI ,wie 00:41:446 (4) - , ein NC haben sollten, weil es 20% cooler aussieht und es auch noch passen würde, weil sie auf einem Downbeat starten und damit fast alle kombos in der Kiai 4 1/1 lang wären.
    Aber das ist Ansichtssache
Advanced
  1. 00:27:265 (2,3) - Flow ist etwas seicht. Ich würde (3) etwas nach oben bewegen. Als Beispiel X: 288 Y: 120. Vielleicht wäre der Flow auch mit X:280 Y: 256 geholfen. (beide Vorschläge berücksichtigen nicht die darauffolgenden Noten)
  2. 00:57:810 (4,5,1) - Der Flow von 4 zu 5 und von 5 zu 6 fände ich besser, wenn (5) die Position von 00:56:446 (4) - teilen würde, das funktioniert aber nicht zu 100% mit dem Distance Snap, aber die Grundidee sollte ja erkenntlich sein ^^
  3. 01:25:083 (4) - Beweg den 3 Grid3 nach oben. Das fühlt sich irgendwie besser an mit (3) und (5)
  4. 01:31:083 (6) - Ich würde hier eine Neue Kombo setzen. Die Followpoints sind hier nicht so schön finde ich. Die Snair ruft auch danach irgendwie
  5. 02:50:719 (2,3) - Ich weiß nicht was mich an diesem Übergang stört Der Flow wäre minimal besser mit (3) X: 256 Y: 344. Zumindest unter Berücksichtigung der folgenden Slider und Noten. An sich hätte ich (3) lieber auf X: 120 Y: 336 gesetzt aber naja, dass würde etwas remapping erfordern :S
  6. 02:59:446 - Ich vermisse eine Note hier :( Es schreit für mich danach auch wenn man dann evtl. sagen könnte, dass die Note zu nah am Spinner ist von der Zeit her :/
  7. 03:14:446 - ein spinner bis 03:15:810 - dann hätte man vom SB her etwas das Gefühl man würde diesen Effekt bewirken, andererseits ist es etwas übertrieben ...
Challenging
  1. 00:34:356 - Audio -10% ? Die 60% klingen im Moment etwas zu laut finde ich
  2. 00:49:628 (5,6) - Der Sprung fühlt sich etwas besser an wenn (6) auf dem Slideranfang von 00:49:083 (4) - ist. Der Übergang zu 00:50:174 (1) - fühlt sich auch besser an, finde ich
  3. 01:02:992 (6) - Das selbe wie ^. Auf Slideranfang von (4) setzen. Von der Schwierigkeit her macht es nichtmal so den großen Unterschied finde ich, es fühlt sich einfach natürlicher an.
  4. 01:55:492 (5,6) - Der Übergang fühlt sich etwas meh an. Vielleicht den Bogen nach unten drehen?
    Das fühlt sich etwas besser an, mMn.
  5. 02:17:446 (1) - Ich weiß nicht, mir gefallen die beiden Repeater nicht. Aber ob jetzt 2 Slider besser wären? ...
  6. 02:52:356 (1) - X: 136 Y: 168 oder X: 96 Y: 64 Beide Positionen haben einen etwas besseren Flow von 02:51:810 (6) - aus als der Momentane Stand
  7. 03:10:901 (4,5) - Flow ist etwas meh aber mir fällt nix besseres ein
  8. 03:11:446 (5,1) - Der Sprung ist mir etwas zu lasch, ich würde den etwas weiter von (5) entfernen
  9. 03:13:083 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - irgendwas passt hier nicht. Ob es jetzt das Spacing ist, welches mir für diesen Flow zu lasch ist oder die Tatsache, dass ich statt stack lieber eine Bewegung innerhalb des Klickens hätte, weiß ich nicht
  10. 03:27:265 (1) - wie bei dem letzten 1/3 slider mit repeats. Ich weiß nicht ob 2 Slider besser kämen als einer mit 2 Repeats
Meine Güte ist das Mapset gut :D
The SB is pure L-O-V-E <3 <3 <3

Ich hoffe mein Mod hilft zumindest ein bisschen ^^
Topic Starter
p3n
Read over your points and I will apply the mod tomorrow after work. I should've been asleep an hour ago =_=


Edit:
mod reply bomber34

bomber34 wrote:

Beginner
  1. 02:04:356 (3) - NC. Die Melodie hat im Zusammenspiel mit dem Slider so einen "Aufladeeffekt". Daher fände ich einen NC hier recht cool stimmt...ausserdem hab ich dann endlich wieder die grün/rot combo
  2. Ja die Map hier finde ich eigentlich fehlerlos. Da gibt es nix großartig zum verbessern. Ich bin zwar der Meinung, dass die sehr langen Slider in der KIAI ,wie 00:41:446 (4) - , ein NC haben sollten, weil es 20% cooler aussieht und es auch noch passen würde, weil sie auf einem Downbeat starten und damit fast alle kombos in der Kiai 4 1/1 lang wären.
    Aber das ist Ansichtssache
Advanced
  1. 00:27:265 (2,3) - Flow ist etwas seicht. Ich würde (3) etwas nach oben bewegen. Als Beispiel X: 288 Y: 120. Vielleicht wäre der Flow auch mit X:280 Y: 256 geholfen. (beide Vorschläge berücksichtigen nicht die darauffolgenden Noten) ok ich hab was anderes versucht. Die nachfolgende Combo ist jetzt auch komplett anders aber die hat mir vorher auch nicht wirklich gefallen
  2. 00:57:810 (4,5,1) - Der Flow von 4 zu 5 und von 5 zu 6 fände ich besser, wenn (5) die Position von 00:56:446 (4) - teilen würde, das funktioniert aber nicht zu 100% mit dem Distance Snap, aber die Grundidee sollte ja erkenntlich sein ^^ das funktioniert schon, wenn man die curve ein bisschen anpasst ;)
  3. 01:25:083 (4) - Beweg den 3 Grid3 nach oben. Das fühlt sich irgendwie besser an mit (3) und (5) klar, warum nicht
  4. 01:31:083 (6) - Ich würde hier eine Neue Kombo setzen. Die Followpoints sind hier nicht so schön finde ich. Die Snair ruft auch danach irgendwie Die map hat viele "Gimmik-NCs" die einfach für die Aufmachung wichtig sind. Aber hier eine NC setzen würde ich mir selbst als Combospam ankreiden müssen ;)
  5. 02:50:719 (2,3) - Ich weiß nicht was mich an diesem Übergang stört Der Flow wäre minimal besser mit (3) X: 256 Y: 344. Zumindest unter Berücksichtigung der folgenden Slider und Noten. An sich hätte ich (3) lieber auf X: 120 Y: 336 gesetzt aber naja, dass würde etwas remapping erfordern :S Endpunkt und die 2 folgenden Startpunkte bilden eigentlich ein Dreieck. Mir ist da nix anderes eingefallen...
  6. 02:59:446 - Ich vermisse eine Note hier :( Es schreit für mich danach auch wenn man dann evtl. sagen könnte, dass die Note zu nah am Spinner ist von der Zeit her :/ Mein Gedanke war hier einfach auf den Vocals einzusetzen und nicht mit dem Beat. Denke das ist für diese Schwierigkeitsstufe angemessener
  7. 03:14:446 - ein spinner bis 03:15:810 - dann hätte man vom SB her etwas das Gefühl man würde diesen Effekt bewirken, andererseits ist es etwas übertrieben ...
Challenging
  1. 00:34:356 - Audio -10% ? Die 60% klingen im Moment etwas zu laut finde ich Crescendo all the way!
  2. 00:49:628 (5,6) - Der Sprung fühlt sich etwas besser an wenn (6) auf dem Slideranfang von 00:49:083 (4) - ist. Der Übergang zu 00:50:174 (1) - fühlt sich auch besser an, finde ich siehe v
  3. 01:02:992 (6) - Das selbe wie ^. Auf Slideranfang von (4) setzen. Von der Schwierigkeit her macht es nichtmal so den großen Unterschied finde ich, es fühlt sich einfach natürlicher an. für die beiden oberen Punkte: Habe nun schon beide Versionen gehört dazu. Am anfang hatte ich die auf den Slideranfängen. Bin momentan mit dem sich leicht erhöhenden Spacing recht zufrieden, vor allem wegen dem lauter werdenden Beat an den Stellen.
  4. 01:55:492 (5,6) - Der Übergang fühlt sich etwas meh an. Vielleicht den Bogen nach unten drehen? Eigentlich ist es in beide Richtungen nicht sehr "flowy" dieses Pattern. Ist ein einfaches Blanket und daher in der aktuellen Richtung eigentlich so "hübscher".
  5. 02:17:446 (1) - Ich weiß nicht, mir gefallen die beiden Repeater nicht. Aber ob jetzt 2 Slider besser wären? ... 1/6 noten möchte ich ungern als echten "click" drin haben. Diese Diff soll eine wirklich zahme und zugängliche "Insane" sein.
  6. 02:52:356 (1) - X: 136 Y: 168 oder X: 96 Y: 64 Beide Positionen haben einen etwas besseren Flow von 02:51:810 (6) - aus als der Momentane Stand Hab es ein bisschen angepasst aber nicht ganz so weit wie vorgeschlagen ;)
  7. 03:10:901 (4,5) - Flow ist etwas meh aber mir fällt nix besseres ein hab die Richtung etwas angepasst. Blanket sollte jetzt klarer rauskommen und der folgende Repeatslider hat jetzt auch die richtige Richtung auf den folgenden Jump
  8. 03:11:446 (5,1) - Der Sprung ist mir etwas zu lasch, ich würde den etwas weiter von (5) entfernen ^Ist durch diese Anpassung jetzt auch etwas größer ;)
  9. 03:13:083 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - irgendwas passt hier nicht. Ob es jetzt das Spacing ist, welches mir für diesen Flow zu lasch ist oder die Tatsache, dass ich statt stack lieber eine Bewegung innerhalb des Klickens hätte, weiß ich nicht die fiesen Triplet-stacks! Ich finde sie recht angenehm so kurz vor der Draintime als art Mini-pause.
  10. 03:27:265 (1) - wie bei dem letzten 1/3 slider mit repeats. Ich weiß nicht ob 2 Slider besser kämen als einer mit 2 Repeats wie gesagt...Ich vermeide lieber die 1/6 Hits und in diesem Fall sehe ich 2 Repeats als passend an (und die passen wirklich sehr sehr selten)
Meine Güte ist das Mapset gut :D Danke :D
The SB is pure L-O-V-E <3 <3 <3

Ich hoffe mein Mod hilft zumindest ein bisschen ^^ fand es hilfreich und vor allem mit Begründungen/Erklärungen
Danke für den gelungenen Mod. Waren viele sehr gute Anregungen und Vorschläge drin! Meinen mod für Tshemmp's map gibts gleich wenn ich damit fertig bin \o/
[Luanny]
oh god this sb is just... FUCKING AWESOME
LOL
Kecco
Hello, just wanted to mod the Challenging diff of this map on my own accord.

Strong suggestions
Personal opinions

[Overall]


[Challenging]
00:28:356 (1) - Make this slider symmetric to this 00:27:265 (4) - possibly. If you follow this suggestion move this hitcircle 00:29:037 (7) - on x:472;y:312, in this way you'd make a kind-of mirrored pattern with these hitcircles and sliderstart 00:29:310 (8,9) -
00:34:901 (1) - Change the volume of the yellow timeline on 36:946 to 5%; Remove the clap from the spinner. [Honestly I think that a silenced spinner works better on that certain kind of sound. Plus, the silence emphasizes the little pause before the chorus, which makes it 120% cooler. You should do the same for the other diffs if you follow my suggestion
00:52:628 (2) - Stack this note on these ones 00:51:810 (1,2) - ? You'd creat a back-jump by following this suggestion, which would work amazingly here.
01:10:083 (2) - Same here.
02:49:083 (7) - NC?
02:53:856 - I think you should add a note here so that you follow the same rhythm w/ blue ticks you followed for these 02:50:719 (2,3,4,5,6) -
03:47:174 (2) - Same of 00:52:628 (2) - and 01:10:083 (2) - suggestions; stack this on these two notes 03:46:356 (1,2) -

Personal opinion: Within the choruses I noticed these sets of sliders: 00:41:446 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 02:26:174 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 03:35:992 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - . I'm suggesting you to make a jump between the first 4 sliders and the last 4, in each set of sliders. Something like this:
SPOILER
This is the slider set in the first chorus. Please note that this is just an example with a random-jump (since it's an example I didn't spend time on where to place it and stuff) and I needed to rotate the last 4 sliders to make the jump. If you want to follow this suggestion, you should do the same for the other two choruses; place the jumps according to your wishes and tastes. And for the first chorus don't follow the jump on my screenshot unless you like it.


Great job, I love this map. The hitsounds are fantastic and the SB gives me orgasms (meh, ofc it's made by CNF).
Loctav

wub wub wub hi wub wub wub


Best SB since ages, holá


[Beginner]

00:34:901 (1) - end on white tick please? Or is that because of the storyboard? Maybe skin a transparent spinner, if you want to make this fadeout visible D:
00:39:810 (2) - bow it upwards? lol
00:56:719 (1,2,3) - move slightly upwards to follow the direction of (5)'s end
01:40:356 (1,2) - wow, this is ugly, lol
02:24:537 (2) - yeey, copypaste section, bow this one up, too?
02:59:719 (1,2,3) - try this: http://puu.sh/3Zod0.jpg
296,80,179719,5,0,0:0:0:0:
265,164,179992,2,0,P|213:219|219:301,1,130
312,248,181083,2,0,P|363:192|358:111,1,130
392,64,181901,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,80,182174,2,0,P|253:57|189:81,1,130
03:03:265 (1) - such kind of small bows are beyond ugly, remove the bow or make it less bowy
03:04:356 (3) - bow this more, fit (4) into the blanket
03:07:628 (1,2,3) - inconsistent spacing
03:43:628 (2,3,4) - quite linear for such a bowy slider, isn't it? Try this: http://puu.sh/3ZokL.jpg

[Advanced]

00:07:083 (6,7,8) - soooo lineaaaarawr, try this: http://puu.sh/3ZoVC.jpg
92,192,7083,2,0,P|80:156|91:95,1,95
160,148,7628,2,0,P|170:111|220:68,1,95
244,148,8174,2,0,P|273:125|335:117,1,95
00:34:901 (1) - end on white tick please
01:03:265 (1,3) - pleease XD adjust the bows to be even (having the same angle and stuff): http://puu.sh/3Zp4M.jpg (moving (1)'s sliderend works here excellently) - also put (2) in the middle, please
01:31:083 (6) - NC
02:05:446 (1,2) - extending both by 1 bluetick seems acceptable to me in this kind of difficulty. Just adjust the spacing to this. (alternating, yey)
02:08:719 (5) - NC
02:17:446 (4) - NC
03:18:537 (5) - NC
03:27:265 (4) - NC

[Challening]
LD7? please, if you want to keep the NCs XD

00:14:174 (5,6,7) - move (6) and (7) upwards to keep the flow, maybe change the direction of (7) to make it not overlap with the sliderend of (5)
00:16:628 (3,4,5) - the "bow" is too sharp, therefore looks a bit weird. Make the bow less sharp, then it looks better imo
00:34:901 (1) - end on white tick please D:
00:27:265 (4) - rotate by -30° (selection centre)
01:23:992 (5) - should end on red tick, here
01:27:810 (3) - rotate by 7° (selection centre) to fit the blanket better
01:43:628 (4,5,6) - try this: http://puu.sh/3Zqo0.jpg
01:49:083 (1,2,3) - make the bows evenly with the same sharpness of the bows
02:07:083 (3,4,5) - :D u know
02:08:037 (6,7) - whhhy ;_; line them up, lol, this misplaced (6) is not only a bit irritating, but also ugly
02:59:174 (2) - NC here
02:59:719 (1) - remove NC
03:16:901 (3,4,5) - ehahuehua
03:17:856 (6,7) - See 02:08:037 (6,7) -

Take my heart star.
Topic Starter
p3n
Oh my...where did you guys come from :)

mod reply Kecco

Kecco wrote:

Hello, just wanted to mod the Challenging diff of this map on my own accord. Hey Kecco :3

Strong suggestions
Personal opinions

[Overall]

I know. I implemented the warning as SB elemnts now.

[Challenging]
00:28:356 (1) - Make this slider symmetric to this 00:27:265 (4) - possibly. If you follow this suggestion move this hitcircle 00:29:037 (7) - on x:472;y:312, in this way you'd make a kind-of mirrored pattern with these hitcircles and sliderstart 00:29:310 (8,9) - ok let me try something a little bit different but almost like this suggestion
00:34:901 (1) - Change the volume of the yellow timeline on 36:946 to 5%; Remove the clap from the spinner. [Honestly I think that a silenced spinner works better on that certain kind of sound. Plus, the silence emphasizes the little pause before the chorus, which makes it 120% cooler. You should do the same for the other diffs if you follow my suggestion I really like how the 5% slider ending works! Changed for all diffs!
00:52:628 (2) - Stack this note on these ones 00:51:810 (1,2) - ? You'd creat a back-jump by following this suggestion, which would work amazingly here.I had something similar early when I started to map this. I decided to alternate between the stacked version and the back-jump for the two distinct patterns I used for the repeating dubstep parts. I really like back-jumps and they would work here as well but I like the alternating version with one stack and one backjump a little bit better than going for back-jumps everytime (which would be 6 times instead of 3)
01:10:083 (2) - Same here.
02:49:083 (7) - NC? yes...should have done this from the start to make the rectangular jump pattern more readable
02:53:856 - I think you should add a note here so that you follow the same rhythm w/ blue ticks you followed for these 02:50:719 (2,3,4,5,6) - I can't add a note here because this combo is pure vocal follow
03:47:174 (2) - Same of 00:52:628 (2) - and 01:10:083 (2) - suggestions; stack this on these two notes 03:46:356 (1,2) - see above

Personal opinion: Within the choruses I noticed these sets of sliders: 00:41:446 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 02:26:174 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 03:35:992 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - . I'm suggesting you to make a jump between the first 4 sliders and the last 4, in each set of sliders. Something like this:

This is the slider set in the first chorus. Please note that this is just an example with a random-jump (since it's an example I didn't spend time on where to place it and stuff) and I needed to rotate the last 4 sliders to make the jump. If you want to follow this suggestion, you should do the same for the other two choruses; place the jumps according to your wishes and tastes. And for the first chorus don't follow the jump on my screenshot unless you like it. -image-


I tried different jump-patterns for the slider sets and I found one I really liked but when I tested it I was kinda disappointed. It just didn't match the song in the way I am already used to. I know this is 100% biased because I played my own map countless times and therefore changing something like this always feels a little strange at first but here it was really something I felt just breaking the feeling for this part of the song.

Great job, I love this map. The hitsounds are fantastic and the SB gives me orgasms (meh, ofc it's made by CNF). sometimes I just sit here, have a drink, and watch the SB ;)
Glad you like the map, Kecco! Thanks for modding the most important diff of the set. You helped me find the perfect solution for the cut spinners ;)


mod reply Rokutafu, Locatv, LocLoc

Loctav wrote:

wub wub wub hi wub wub wub

hidden wub is the best wub

Best SB since ages, holá praise the CnF \o/


[Beginner]

00:34:901 (1) - end on white tick please? Or is that because of the storyboard? Maybe skin a transparent spinner, if you want to make this fadeout visible D: already fixed this with Kecco's mod :P
00:39:810 (2) - bow it upwards? lol hehe why not
00:56:719 (1,2,3) - move slightly upwards to follow the direction of (5)'s end ok
01:40:356 (1,2) - wow, this is ugly, lol ;_; but the ugly is a nice contrast to the sexy of everything else
02:24:537 (2) - yeey, copypaste section, bow this one up, too? up? how about.....DOWN!
02:59:719 (1,2,3) - try this: http://puu.sh/3Zod0.jpg oh well...sure looks nicer. I had to make some tweaks to get the 1/2 spacings right but it works ;)
03:03:265 (1) - such kind of small bows are beyond ugly, remove the bow or make it less bowy roger that
03:04:356 (3) - bow this more, fit (4) into the blanket aye!
03:07:628 (1,2,3) - inconsistent spacing huh? where? 1/2 spacings in this map are all 1,20x to increase readability and prevent overlaps
03:43:628 (2,3,4) - quite linear for such a bowy slider, isn't it? Try this: http://puu.sh/3ZokL.jpg it is a perfectly shaped square!

[Advanced]

00:07:083 (6,7,8) - soooo lineaaaarawr, try this: http://puu.sh/3ZoVC.jpg it is so linearawr because the follow up is a linear symmetrical pattern ;_;
00:34:901 (1) - end on white tick please already fixed ;D
01:03:265 (1,3) - pleease XD adjust the bows to be even (having the same angle and stuff): http://puu.sh/3Zp4M.jpg (moving (1)'s sliderend works here excellently) - also put (2) in the middle, please yes I can
01:31:083 (6) - NC more NCs for more gud
02:05:446 (1,2) - extending both by 1 bluetick seems acceptable to me in this kind of difficulty. Just adjust the spacing to this. (alternating, yey) hmmm I think this is a but too confusing for a normal
02:08:719 (5) - NC yes
02:17:446 (4) - NC yees
03:18:537 (5) - NC yeees
03:27:265 (4) - NC yeeees

[Challening]
LD7? please, if you want to keep the NCs XD
this is you right now:


00:14:174 (5,6,7) - move (6) and (7) upwards to keep the flow, maybe change the direction of (7) to make it not overlap with the sliderend of (5) done
00:16:628 (3,4,5) - the "bow" is too sharp, therefore looks a bit weird. Make the bow less sharp, then it looks better imo done
00:34:901 (1) - end on white tick please D: already taken care of by Kecco's mod
00:27:265 (4) - rotate by -30° (selection centre) how about -29° to match the other slider?
01:23:992 (5) - should end on red tick, here huh? the drum is on the blue tick since it is the good old 3/4 into 4/4 pattern
01:27:810 (3) - rotate by 7° (selection centre) to fit the blanket better aye
01:43:628 (4,5,6) - try this: http://puu.sh/3Zqo0.jpg I like to keep the vocal follow combo consistent :(
01:49:083 (1,2,3) - make the bows evenly with the same sharpness of the bows hmm ok changed
02:07:083 (3,4,5) - :D u know I do ;)
02:08:037 (6,7) - whhhy ;_; line them up, lol, this misplaced (6) is not only a bit irritating, but also ugly ok ok I made the bump less bumpy for bump's sake
02:59:174 (2) - NC here the more the better!
02:59:719 (1) - remove NC noooooo (as in "yes")
03:16:901 (3,4,5) - ehahuehua muhehuehue
03:17:856 (6,7) - See 02:08:037 (6,7) - I see...

Take my heart star. quite starring, this mod of yours, kind sir
I bite you!




Updating the SBed warning later...I have to get something to eat or I'll stop living (as in dying!).

Edit:
Added the epilepsy warning via storyboard. Changed the tags because someone was telling me it should be "Applejack" and not "Apple jack" but how should I know :(
[Seraphin]
Shut up and take my star.

I think I'll die if this map gets 20% percent cooler
TicClick
fuck yeah.

I mean, consider adding kiai flashes on 00:56:719 and 03:42:537 for the very last kiai, also on 02:06:537 and 03:16:356 to emphacize the beginning of the lyric parts (the track also suggests using kiai there, I'd say).
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