This idea is awesome!
Oh, and I'm in the modder ranking. O.O <3
Oh, and I'm in the modder ranking. O.O <3
Flower wrote:
Old mappers: Haha I love this new system you see I have many stars I just need to spam shoot my map then hundreds of modders come to mod my map It's been already said, that star system will be phased out.
New mappers: Where can I find the modders? Why do they refuse my in-game/pm/facebook/qq/any-other-approaches mod request? You don't need to look for modders, modders will come to you
Lazy modders: hahaha I love this system I only need to spam "1 grid up" and I can get bunches of EXP, and I can vote maps and unvote maps as I wish You can downvote those modders.
Serious modders: what I have to mod songs and maps I don't like? goodbye You're not here to mod the songs you like, but to help people.
Marcin wrote:
It's been already said, that star system will be phased out. OK then
You don't need to look for modders, modders will come to you No, seriously. Many months after you find you get approximately mod every month just because demand exceeds supply
You can downvote those modders. Don't joke me bro. It's nearly impossible to track a modder. Do you volunteer to do this?
You're not here to mod the songs you like, but to help people. No bro, NO. Many, many modders mod a map because they hope the map can be ranked. If a modder don't like the map, is it still their compulsion to mod it?
If you want to mod maps you like, go ahead and do that.Flower wrote:
No bro, NO. Many, many modders mod a map because they hope the map can be ranked. If a modder don't like the map, is it still their compulsion to mod it?
And? +10 still bigger than downvotes. Lazy modders can mod thousand maps from queue and reseive super high priority. Who the hell will search specially bad mods in thousands threads?. It is just wasting the time.Marcin wrote:
You can downvote those modders.
If you doing job what you dont like it will affect the quality, remember it. And this related not only with osu.Marcin wrote:
You're not here to mod the songs you like, but to help people.
Almost totally agree with you, but the systems will distract modders only receiving mods from forum queue, pm request, etc. That's why I suggest reducing the difference from queue and non-queue mods.Silynn wrote:
If you want to mod maps you like, go ahead and do that.Flower wrote:
No bro, NO. Many, many modders mod a map because they hope the map can be ranked. If a modder don't like the map, is it still their compulsion to mod it?
That is not the purpose of the new modding queue system. If you don't want to mod within this system, you don't have to.
Please realize that it is not compulsory, but you can help people and receive benefits by participating.
Yes, we can. However when we find a map with no unrankable issue, and is really ready for rank, but the general mapping attitude is not satisfyting, if it get ranked, the player rate can be low. I think if you can't avoid modding the map, you may just say "remap please because the map is not satisfying", which may reduce your modder rating.apaffy wrote:
just because you don't like a map/song doesn't mean you still can't give a constructive mod (you just have to put more effort into it)
and as countless other people have said, you can still mod the maps you want
The major flaw with the current system is the fact that a large portion of people pick and choose which maps they want to mod, leaving a lot of maps unmodded for ages, and eventually graved.Deni wrote:
If you mod the maps you want to mod, you still help people the same. I think it's pretty strange that you will get less "points" for modding an other map.
The system has a shortage. Some people may freely poke the modders having critical mods which is actually useful. Also people may frame-up innocent modders using this system. BAT may be responsible making a recheck on bad-modder-report, but it takes a lot of work, and still not quite efficient.CXu wrote:
You don't need to actively search or bad modders; just poke them when you see them (either in your own map thread, or when you're modding a map). If everyone does this, they'll be found.
Wow, I didn't even notice that. 30% total is a bit high.Sakura wrote:
I love how you guys completely ignored my post.
That is % off your experience, i am pretty sure BATs will have enough time to check at least the daily nominated maps and their threads, and every single BAT will have time to go through a map and it's thread, before it becomes ranked.
If any modder feels they have been wrongly downvoted, I assume they may contact any one of the staff members and have it sorted out within minutes.Flower wrote:
The system has a shortage. Some people may freely poke the modders having critical mods which is actually useful. Also people may frame-up innocent modders using this system. BAT may be responsible making a recheck on bad-modder-report, but it takes a lot of work, and still not quite efficient.
The queue is what gives the mappers their chance, not the other way around.Kodora wrote:
Second thing: as for me modding points from queue maps should be redused to as least +5, it looks super unbalanced for now, people will mod only maps from queue instead others. All mappers should have chance i think.
What does that do?Sakura wrote:
I love how you guys completely ignored my post.
That is % off your experience, i am pretty sure BATs will have enough time to check at least the daily nominated maps and their threads, and every single BAT will have time to go through a map and it's thread, before it becomes ranked.
Yes that works often, but mostly the mapper does not know which posts should be given kudosu. Further more, which one should be given penalty? I think in most cases the "modder" does not make any fault. The BAT should be authorised to decide whether they will give the penalty and who will they give.Sakura wrote:
For the 2nd one, i think the mapper should have an "undo" button in case they misclicked.
This is one of main problems in those update[Luanny] wrote:
Nice, this means that if I pm someone to mod my map or even do m4m they will probably reject because my map won't give many points \:D/
Why that was not mentiored before? As far as i know, only BATs allowed to denied unfair points - modders can only report[Luanny] wrote:
Btw, what if I downvote someone's mod just because I don't like them? I hope someone will punish me for doing this, at least.
WHO'S AFRAID OF THE BIG PEPPYzozozofun wrote:
Long ago, the happy players of osu! lived together in harmony, then, everything changed when peppy came back.
I just argue to see if I can make some minor suggestions so that the new system is more friendly. I'm not totally against the new system, though I will have less chance of gaoji'ing.angelfix wrote:
@flower. stop useless arguing, nothing will be changed finally, so let us see what hell will happen
Yep, that's it. High skipping penalty makes this queue compulsory. Just reducing the skipping penalty makes a big improvement.angelfix wrote:
i am willing to osu! recommend some maps, but use it to make the most important part of ranking system is crazy, different from PP system, game is a kind of sport, so ranking is useful, but mapping is a kind of art, ranking is just like shit.
But no one will force you to mod from queue. You can mod on your own and choose whatever you like.angelfix wrote:
the most unacceptable things is choose maps by a machine or we called it system, something never can be done by computer, like find a music we love, music radio always can not replace CDs. Today's system is not the best, but this one is the wrost.
Of course, it'll be very hard to become someone who can nominate maps if you do that.Sieg wrote:
But no one will force you to mod from queue. You can mod on your own and choose whatever you like.angelfix wrote:
the most unacceptable things is choose maps by a machine or we called it system, something never can be done by computer, like find a music we love, music radio always can not replace CDs. Today's system is not the best, but this one is the wrost.
main problem is queue maps have VERY big priority abuse. it is an indirect forcing.You lose 50 SP whenever your map gets modded. I think that'll sort itself out over time.
Exactly. I don't get why most of people miss that.Ekaru wrote:
...But that's the entire damn point. The point is that only people who are willing to mod all maps and not just maps they like are the ones who get privileges like being able to nominate maps. If you don't care about those privileges, however, feel free to mod whatever the hell you want. Just don't expect to get significant rewards for it.