Nature. Otherwise I would already be able to easily stream more than 180 BPM
if you look around, then you will see that not everyone can.thelewa wrote:
Middle School math isn't hard and everyone can do it. It's like [Normal] difficulties in osu!
I couldn't pass almost any [Normal]s when I started playing this game.thelewa wrote:
Middle School math isn't hard and everyone can do it. It's like [Normal] difficulties in osu!
no, but I heard it one time and then knew how it worked. others don't understand it after the 100th time you explain it to them.Aqo wrote:
I couldn't pass almost any [Normal]s when I started playing this game.thelewa wrote:
Middle School math isn't hard and everyone can do it. It's like [Normal] difficulties in osu!
I also don't think you were born knowing the multiplication table or how to solve algebra equations.
WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IN THE BEGINNINGAqo wrote:
I couldn't pass almost any [Normal]s when I started playing this game.thelewa wrote:
Middle School math isn't hard and everyone can do it. It's like [Normal] difficulties in osu!
I also don't think you were born knowing the multiplication table or how to solve algebra equations.
/threadPettanko wrote:
It's just ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name
noPettanko wrote:
It's just ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name
You're right. Still, this doesn't mean an untalented person cannot surpass a talented one with enough work. he/she just to work/practice even morethelewa wrote:
The point is that some people improve faster than others. That's the "talent" part. Are you really this stupid or are you just pretending?
I think you're the one not getting the point here.thelewa wrote:
WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IN THE BEGINNING
THAT'S NOT THE POINT
The point is that some people improve faster than others. That's the "talent" part. Are you really this stupid or are you just pretending?
True, a talentless person can surpass a person with talent. But a talentless person CAN'T surpass a talented person who practices hard.Zarerion wrote:
You're right. Still, this doesn't mean an untalented person cannot surpass a talented one with enough work. he/she just to work/practice even morethelewa wrote:
The point is that some people improve faster than others. That's the "talent" part. Are you really this stupid or are you just pretending?
This statement is the main reason I support nurture 100% even tho I do think deep down that there's some % spread between nature and nurture.thelewa wrote:
But a talentless person CAN'T surpass a talented person who practices hard.
Aqo wrote:
If anybody claims to have tried as hard as somebody else and has achieved worse results, then he simply overestimates how hard he tried and underestimates how hard the other person tried.
Is the abiliity to play osu! determined by nature or nurture?If we talk about ability to play at high level, then nurture.
I told you exactly what I think. That "talent" is synonymous to patience and if you don't just fool yourself to think you tried as hard as somebody else and instead ACTUALLY try as hard as they did, you'll get to the same point as them, and even pass them if you try harder.thelewa wrote:
So you're basically saying that there is some sort of talent, but you deny it to give people false hope?
Don't forget that despite lower playcount, Cookiezi has more notes hits in his count, and they probably came from harder more spaced maps too, so it's not like Rizzo practiced harder and got less far; he actually did practice less overall, even if you ignore retries and unranked plays.GoldenWolf wrote:
@lolcubes : That's true, but from what I could see by speccing both of them, my example is accurate enough :p
Cookiezi has less total score than Rizzo (I mean, way less) and still has more total hits. How to explain that ? => Cookiezi retried more often at the beggining of a map than Rizzo. Rizzo played more the maps entierely, getting higher combo and so higher score, aka played moreAqo wrote:
Don't forget that despite lower playcount, Cookiezi has more notes hits in his count, and they probably came from harder more spaced maps too, so it's not like Rizzo practiced harder and got less far; he actually did practice less overall, even if you ignore retries and unranked plays.GoldenWolf wrote:
@lolcubes : That's true, but from what I could see by speccing both of them, my example is accurate enough :p
I'm surprised he played Shotgun Symphony+ so much then, most of the maps he can't FC he'll just get a really good score or even #1 on it and then just never play it again. This was the case with shotgun too, but it took waaaay more plays than most of the other scores he set did.thelewa wrote:
He likes maps that he can FC, and he has pretty much always played maps that he can FC.
jesus1412 wrote:
Cookiezi is nature. People with crazy as shit accuracy are nature. Everything else can be learnt.
Apparently some people just don't want to accept it.Sorun wrote:
Genetic advantages are a fact of life.
ur bst pro <З33зЗ3ззЗЗ3ЗэЭэЭbuny wrote:
Nature because I naturally suck
Read my mind.Pettanko wrote:
It's just ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name
But eventually being able to fc insanes with DT or HR or even both of the mods combined becomes worthless due to the need of accuracy, I can fc most insanes with hr and sometimes dt, but getting low accuracy like 85% makes it so inferior compared to a nomod SS.hinaskye wrote:
Well it is true some people have a better rhythm sense than others, but that doesnt mean the ones that don't can't FC a insane map, it just means they have better accuracy. Out of most of my friends, i prob have a better rhythm sense which may have came from playing other music games beforehand. I totally suck at streams but i feel im getting the hang of getting 300s short streams and still working on it.
In a general sense, i really believe to be a more higher skilled player, its all about practise and how much time they spend on osu!, although not eveyone will start off from the same level and grow at the same rate. I can't say anything about playing HR or DT on insane maps, cause at present that seems totally impossible to me, but i think i will get there eventually.