1. Collab (4.57 stars, 417 notes)
2. Easy (1.31 stars, 163 notes)
3. pimpG (3.42 stars, 191 notes)

pimpG wrote:

general

Artist: Kanae Itou, Kana Asumi, Nanae Katou
Title: Happy Xmas
tags: pimpG VinylDash14 Collab Christmas Shugo Chara Doki Chibi Character Song

i missed a finish in my diff at 01:41:944 (5)
latest osb file and my latest gd:
http://puu.sh/1sgj7

turn off letterbox during breaks in all diffs
i still think bpm is 58, pulsing is better in kiai with this bpm

easy

00:19:702 (6) - i think this note should be in the next 1/3 tick, sounds better with vocal and piano, its also more readable imo Fixed
00:21:771 (2) - ^ ^^^^
00:24:013 (1) - i think you should make a circle here for consistency with previous notes (if you use my sugestions above) and moe this slider to 00:24:358 No. I don't think so.
00:31:599 (1,2,1,2) - the slider ends sounds strange in 1/1 ticks, unfitting the song imo keeping... this is supposed to be simplified.
01:07:806 - spinner end here, to give enough time to newbies hit next note? Done
01:21:254 (1) - slider tick sounds weird here, we are using slider tick rate 1, and it does not works when repeating a slider in a 1/3 tick, i sugest you make the slider end at 01:22:289 and add a repeat, and then make the next spinner start at 01:23:668 I don't really want to change the start of the spinner
01:41:944 (3) - slider end at 01:42:978 ?? I'm pretty content where this ends.
02:07:461 (4) - remove this note? i think its more easy to follow only back vocal in this small part I did at some point. don't know how it came back. fixed
03:06:771 (3) - slider end at 03:07:806 ?? No
03:10:909 (2) - slider end at 03:11:944 ?? No

i'll mod the collab after we finish it

Rainmon wrote:

Little mod~ Because.. Idk :3

[Collab]

pimpG
02:37:633 (5) - remove this :/ plays better without tripple here (fixed)
02:38:497 (4) - Reverse? (maybe)
02:42:978 (10) - slider? (i dont like it)



[pimpG]

Diff seems fine to me :3 (cool )

Rainmon wrote:

Little mod~ Because.. Idk :3

[Collab]

Vinyl
00:37:116 (4,5) - This plays uncomfortable imo :c Try the same pattern u choosed for 00:36:082 (2,3) - I might fix it, just don't know how.
00:38:840 (7) - A slider would fit sooo much better q.q Sure

00:42:978 (4,5,6) - Slider? öwö No, I want this to be a heart pattern and only a heart pattern, I don't want to screw things up.
01:39:530 (1,2,3,4) - Isn't that a bit much spacing? Fixed a little
01:40:047 (4) - Feels like this slider should start at 01:40:220 :c Doesn't sound right to me, so nah
02:33:668 (1) - remove whistle from track o.o Removed

Rainmon wrote:

Little mod~ Because.. Idk :3

[Collab]

TVO
03:28:496 (8) - Slider? qwq 2/3 I guess it's called (ending here 03:28:840 ) That doesn't follow my symmetry sorry. also the slider slide would annoy me because it's not a chord.

[Easy]

I can't really say much about this diff. It bugs me to see that there are so many 2/3 beats in there. (I used 1/3 snap).
But yeah, I dont think this is a big problem, thats just my little personal rule I guess. The song is 2/3rd.

03:10:909 (2,1) - anti jump? spacing confuses :/ Barely. Anyone who's actually paying attention isn't going to miss this. The only casualties will be the more experienced players trying to follow the song, but they don't count, because I'm targeting Easy players who will follow the approach circles with more attention.

Hope this was any help to you :3 Good luck~

316,188,172633,2,0,P|284:216|228:216|196:188,1,128,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

pimpG wrote:

for now i just modded vile stuff from collab

00:14:358 (2) - move it to x512 y248 to improve flow
00:14:702 (3) - consider moving it to x428 y344 for the same reason above Done^
00:15:047 (4,5) - sounds better if you end this sliders 1/3 tick later That would ruin the pattern I wanted here. I think I can get away with the pattern and timeline I have currently.
00:19:875 (3,4,5) - make the spacing even.. to improve flow, how about moving (4) to x328 y220? Remapped this part a bit.
00:22:978 (5) - try this? http://puu.sh/1tQnH Changed shape
01:18:151 (3) - spacing is too high here imo, better ctrl+G this slider and move the start to the centre, it will be 1.5 ds and will look better imo I kind of like the way it is with the jumps. I may change if it becomes necessary to change.
01:19:185 (4) - move it to x76 y192 to make the spacing a bit more consistent Ummm this doesn't make sense unless I took your first suggestion.
01:19:530 (5,6) - i thought it was a mirror in the 1st view, but its asymmetric, use the same slider but ctrl+G? Fixed
02:52:633 (2) - a bit asymmetric, try this code

316,188,172633,2,0,P|284:216|228:216|196:188,1,128,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

Added it, but felt that 4 points made flat parts in the slider. So I reduced to 3 points
02:54:013 (5) - remove finish? Yes
03:12:289 (3,4,5) - try this for better flow http://puu.sh/1tRdf if you dont want to change.. spacing is a bit messed in this part, intentional? also 3 and 5 are not perfectly mirrored, move 3 1 grid left, or move 5 1 grid right Did something similar
03:23:668 (1,3) - i think flow would be better if 1 was where 3 actually is and the same for 3, that means ctrl+G ... but this change would make the spacing a mess that requires some small changes http://puu.sh/1tRsc I don't really want to change.


thats all for now, i'll mod vinyl stuff later

1. Title is "Happy Christmas" or at least add tag christmas >.<
2. Let us know that pimpG is [Normal]. Write it in Creator's word
3. It'll be great if you use same combo colours for all diffs >.</
4. Add preview point? I guess 02:00:565 - is a good place to put preview point
5. Map easier diffs 'till the end or (not recommended) cut end of Collab diffs.

1. I really don't like spacing changes in this diff. :V 00:29:530 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - 0.9>0.8>1.3>0.9 this is confusing for beginners, and I think you should avoid things like this in [Easy] diff.
2. 01:08:840 (1) - too far from center of previous spinner. Beginners spin around center of the screen and they will not have enough time to jump from center to slider's start. By the way, you forgot New Combo here. it's a bug.
3. 01:31:599 (1) - how about circle here to start break with loud bell-hitsound? :V I think it fits here
4. 01:59:530 (4) - I don't like it. Because, I think that 02:00:565 - should be single-circle. This is start of kiai, it should be something epic. So, end of the slider doesn't plays good.
5. 02:05:737 (2,4) - whistles will work here better, imo. because clap sounds a bit too loud.
6. 02:35:737 (2) - new combo bug. You should fix it >.</
7. 03:21:254 - why you din't end spinner here? I think that you should do it to follow bells.

1. First of all, don't break spacing after every pattern! examples: 00:37:806 (3,4,1,2) - 00:41:944 (5,6,1,2) - 00:50:047 (4,5,1,2) - even with new combo it's still plays awkward. and annoying. :Regular speed > Slooowdown > Regular speed > slowdown: you're doing it too often and I think it ruins your flow and your diff
2. 01:07:806 - how about 1/1 slider here? It will work great and fill empty space. Of course it followsrhythm, too!
3. 01:16:082 - same problem as above. It feels like :random part of map>cutted pattern>random part of map>cutted pattern..: and that's why I don't like it! make your flow consistent! So, players will know what to expect from next patterns!
4. 01:25:392 (1) - too short/fast for [Normal] diff in such a relaxing song.
5. 01:31:599 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - too many circles. How you want us to play it? It's just boring! Of course it fits, but it's totally boring! Be more creative.
6. 02:00:909 (1) - I'd say it goes too soon after spinner. So, players will not have enought time to click it :<
7. 02:23:496 (1) - same as 01:25:392 (1). This is calm song, there's no need to put too fast spinners. same at 02:33:668 (1) - , by the way/
8. 02:59:530 (1,1) - don't hurt me ;_; this is TOO hard for relaxing diff
9. 03:08:840 (1) - new combo here feels overused and totally breaks your combo pattern.

1. 01:44:013 (1) - forgot hitsound here! :V just re-check your hitsounds again
   
   i like rhythm here!
   

Maybe this BG will fit better o3o

If you like it, here's combo colours

[Colours]
Combo1 : 250,198,253
Combo2 : 128,236,136
Combo3 : 227,245,101
Combo4 : 240,57,62

Moway wrote:

Collab

00:37:116(4,5)- this rhythm works more for me http://puu.sh/1uLJV I might do it.
00:51:599(4)- remove NC Alrighty
01:44:013(1)- remove NC Nah.
02:22:978- add a circle Will do.
02:27:461(6)- NC Kay
02:27:806(1)- remove NC ^

Moway wrote:

Mod because I can


Easy

00:37:806(4)- I think whistle fits the song better than finish on the slider end I agree
00:42:978(4)- ^ ^
00:46:082(4)-^ I want to keep this one.
01:15:047(3)-whistle No
01:29:525(5)-whistle on slider end instead of finish
01:34:358(5)-^
01:38:151(5)-^ No^


I know that you want to vary the hitsounding but for the most part the finishes
just don't really fit. I think that just that gentle bellsound is fine since the song is gentle and quiet.
It also doesn't seem like you do this type of hitsounding on the other diffs so doing these changes puts this more in line with the other difficulties. It's boring without the finishes and I think the finishes do fit.

01:59:530(4)- make this slider symmetrical across the y-axis I can't see the difference and this slider has bothered me whenever I've messed with it. I'm not messing with it again.
02:05:737(5)- remove clap, whistle instead Yes
02:07:806(4)-^ ^
02:21:254(1)-make this slider symmetrical across the y-axis Close enough
02:36:685(2,4)- This rhythm makes more sense to me http://puu.sh/1uLkb Seems like a proper rhythm. However I want to go pattern over rhythm here. There's no sense ruining symmetry just because it sounds better in this case.
02:40:565(2)- this makes a lot more sense to me if you move it up four ticks. the current rhythm is a bit confusing Done but also filled the gap.
02:42:978(4)-remove whistle from head Done
02:44:013(1)- finish on head here makes more sense to me I don't like it. That pause right before it makes the finish sound sudden and unfitting.
02:49:185(1,2)- finish on head of both of these sliders sounds good I think Yes
03:00:565(1)- finish here to stay consistent with the phrases in this section Done
03:05:737(2)- remove clap, replace with whistle Fine
03:06:771(3)- nazi, but make this symmetrical across the y-axis Not supposed to be/not going to
03:10:909(2)-^ ^^^
03:12:978(1)- not sure why you have an antijump here, just spacing on 0.9 works I think I think I had a slowdown at somepoint and that limited the spacing. I really don't want to move though. It plays perfectly fine. If I move it I might have to rotate it and I don't want to rotate it.
03:16:082(4,5)- not really sure if you should have a stack here since this is your easiest diff. Maybe replace with a slider? Or just remove (5) Tried both when I made the difficulty, I prefer this.


Collab

just a small thing, but it seems like the names pulse a bit too big for me. Maybe make the pulse a bit smaller so it is more gentle.

00:25:392-00:35:737- I'd like it if this section was mapped. Why not?
02:53:323(3)- whistle Okay
02:54:358(1)- remove finish, add whistle I'd rather not
02:56:404(1)- remove whistle, add finish ^ Sound's volume is too low.
03:00:565(1)- add finish Meh
03:00:565(1,2,3)- uniformly space these It was awkward when I did that. I have them spaced the way they are for a reason.



Merry Christmas in advance, I like the mapset a lot. Star for you broskis

-Bakari- wrote:

I wanna wish you Merry Christmas! ♥

Hi.

[General]

1. Title is "Happy Christmas" or at least add tag christmas >.< It is in tags?
2. Let us know that pimpG is [Normal]. Write it in Creator's word I might, it's not really necessary
3. It'll be great if you use same combo colours for all diffs >.</ Styles between difficulties are incompatible. My color choices are targeted towards asymmetrical closely spaced combos, while the default colors of the others are best for symmetry patterns and open combos.
4. Add preview point? I guess 02:00:565 - is a good place to put preview point Yes. I forgot.
5. Map easier diffs 'till the end or (not recommended) cut end of Collab diffs. Guidelines are not law. I have a reason to end the collab a bit longer.

[Easy]

1. I really don't like spacing changes in this diff. :V 00:29:530 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - 0.9>0.8>1.3>0.9 this is confusing for beginners, and I think you should avoid things like this in [Easy] diff. No it isn't. There's time to react.
2. 01:08:840 (1) - too far from center of previous spinner. Beginners spin around center of the screen and they will not have enough time to jump from center to slider's start. By the way, you forgot New Combo here. it's a bug. Fixed the bug, but the other complaint is a non-issue. You have four beats to get to that note. It's more than enough time even if you for some reason like to awkwardly spin as a beginner and your cursor ends up in the exact center.
3. 01:31:599 (1) - how about circle here to start break with loud bell-hitsound? :V I think it fits here I'm following vocals.
4. 01:59:530 (4) - I don't like it. Because, I think that 02:00:565 - should be single-circle. This is start of kiai, it should be something epic. So, end of the slider doesn't plays good. I love sliding into the kiai....
5. 02:05:737 (2,4) - whistles will work here better, imo. because clap sounds a bit too loud. Fixed in earlier mod.
6. 02:35:737 (2) - new combo bug. You should fix it >.</ Fixed
7. 03:21:254 - why you din't end spinner here? I think that you should do it to follow bells. That's too far, I get too much of a bonus if I do that.

[Collab]

1. 01:44:013 (1) - forgot hitsound here! :V just re-check your hitsounds again
   
   i like rhythm here!
   

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Actually I like this map. But BG and combo colours should be much brighter because it's Christmas! it looks a bit depressive, the way it is now.

Maybe this BG will fit better o3o

I'm rather attached to the current one.
If you like it, here's combo colours

[Colours]
Combo1 : 250,198,253
Combo2 : 128,236,136
Combo3 : 227,245,101
Combo4 : 240,57,62

1. 00:17:116 (4) - new combo. Downbeat and voice call for it
2. 00:24:013 (1,2) - I prefer removing new combo on (1) and have a NC on (2). But that is more a difficult opinion question because the real new music phrase starts on Sliderend (1)
3. 00:31:599 (1,2,1,2) - Sliderends sound all off / weird. Maybe use hitsounds or something
4. 00:58:496 (3) - new combo could start here, because of downbeat and vocal who can be interpretated as new music phrase
5. 01:02:633 (3,4,5) - fix spacing please (3,4) have 1x DS and (4,5) 0.9x DS ._.
6. 01:06:599 (1) - if OD weren't so low i would say the spinner is way to short. It is a gray area for me. You are one of these mappers who have OD = AR if OD were -1 of AR like most people would do this spinner would be way more okay
7. 01:39:875 (1,2,3) - i don't like the spacing between (2,3). (1,2) had 0.9x and (2,3) have 0.7x . If you want a slow down well maybe try 0.8 but well 0.9 is good for me
8. 02:02:633 (2) - bow should face up. Feels more natural for me. I would prefer 02:02:633 (2) - being mirrored from 01:59:530 (4) - on X-Axis for a nicer symmetric
9. 02:10:909 (3) - bow should face down. I don't know the whole pattern looks more friendly for me then and plays better for me
10. 02:36:427 (2) - sounds a bit of for me. 1/6 earlier?
11. 02:38:496 (4) - sounds weird again. It sounds better though if you add a note on 02:38:151 -
12. 03:06:771 (3) - sliderend sounds weird to me. Maybe use hitsounds?
13. 03:10:909 (2,1) - wow, spacing is bad

1. 00:45:047 (2) - this swelling on top is actual more weird than nice
2. 01:22:289 (4) - should be on same X: coordinate like (1). Looks weird at the moment
3. 01:33:668 (7) - kind of want to suggest a new combo, because the combo is to long but also it does fit at the moment >.< weird
4. 01:36:771 (2) - I think the curves are a little to strong
5. 01:40:909 (4) - new combo
6. 02:12:978 (2) - the curves can look better
7. 02:23:496 (1) - that spinner is almost to short in my opinion but oh well it fits and everything
8. 02:54:013 (2,1,2) - don't like the flow between these three. try (1) on Y: 300 or 292 or something better than that
9. 03:17:289 - add another spnner until 03:19:185 - . fits nice to vocals and sounds not so cut off with the finish you are using

1. Could be that the OD is so high but i have the feeling the timing is abit off. I get incredible many 100s and sometimes 50s. This is not so noticable on the other diffs because of the low OD but i think you should recheck timing
   TheVileOne
2. 00:15:047 (4,5) - sliderends sound off .-. make them quieter or hitsounds or idk
3. 00:20:220 (4,5) - jump does not fit that much there. Try lowering spacing a bit. For example distance is 00:24:358 (4,5) - fine for me here
4. 03:05:737 (4) - maybe new combo
5. 03:16:082 (4) - I would like to see a bow that is symmetrical when mirrored on x-axis by ctrl + j
   
   VinylDash14
6. 00:36:082 (2) - 1/6 shorter please. sounds a bit off at the moment
7. 00:38:151 - add note
8. 01:33:668 (5,6,7,8) - these jumps feel weird. Make (5,7) and (6,8) facing each other. It is so almost done that it is weird that it is not done in that way
9. 01:44:013 (1) - remove new combo and maybe add that nc earlier or don't do that ._.
10. 02:34:702 (2) - ctrl + g has a better flow for me
    
    pimpG
    sry nothing for you (if i didn't mistaken)

bomber34 wrote:

Last christmas I modded nothing
but the very next day
I did it anyway
This year to save me from tears
I am trying to mod something special - special

[pimpG]
- I miss a difficult name. Just guest mapper is weird unless there is some kind of fame like val0108 (i think its fine, we see a lot of weird diff names even if its not the guest mapper name )

1. 00:45:047 (2) - this swelling on top is actual more weird than nice ()
2. 01:22:289 (4) - should be on same X: coordinate like (1). Looks weird at the moment (if i do that, the slider curve will be ugly)
3. 01:33:668 (7) - kind of want to suggest a new combo, because the combo is to long but also it does fit at the moment >.< weird (maybe)
4. 01:36:771 (2) - I think the curves are a little to strong (x)
5. 01:40:909 (4) - new combo (fixed)
6. 02:12:978 (2) - the curves can look better (i gave my best to make it symetrical, its fine imo)
7. 02:23:496 (1) - that spinner is almost to short in my opinion but oh well it fits and everything ( ^^ )
8. 02:54:013 (2,1,2) - don't like the flow between these three. try (1) on Y: 300 or 292 or something better than that (in general, my difficulty is "play the shape" .... the spacing is fine so the flow would not be that bad)
9. 03:17:289 - add another spnner until 03:19:185 - . fits nice to vocals and sounds not so cut off with the finish you are using (i dont like it)

[Collab]

1. Could be that the OD is so high but i have the feeling the timing is abit off. I get incredible many 100s and sometimes 50s. This is not so noticable on the other diffs because of the low OD but i think you should recheck timing (timing is fine but sometimes vocal is 1/12 off)
   
   pimpG
   sry nothing for you (if i didn't mistaken)

good luck
hope to see that ranked on / before christmas (we are giving our best. thank you for mod )

bomber34 wrote:

[Collab]

• 
  
  VinylDash14

1. 00:36:082 (2) - 1/6 shorter please. sounds a bit off at the moment Doesn't sound right.
2. 00:38:151 - add note Added.
3. 01:33:668 (5,6,7,8) - these jumps feel weird. Make (5,7) and (6,8) facing each other. It is so almost done that it is weird that it is not done in that way I guess
4. 01:44:013 (1) - remove new combo and maybe add that nc earlier or don't do that ._. No.
5. 02:34:702 (2) - ctrl + g has a better flow for me Yes. Yes it does.

good luck
hope to see that ranked on / before christmas

bomber34 wrote:

Last christmas I modded nothing
but the very next day
I did it anyway
This year to save me from tears
I am trying to mod something special - special

[Easy]

1. 00:17:116 (4) - new combo. Downbeat and voice call for it Okay done. Wait, added one here 00:18:151 - instead
2. 00:24:013 (1,2) - I prefer removing new combo on (1) and have a NC on (2). But that is more a difficult opinion question because the real new music phrase starts on Sliderend (1) Adjusted combos
3. 00:31:599 (1,2,1,2) - Sliderends sound all off / weird. Maybe use hitsounds or something Adjusted volumes
4. 00:58:496 (3) - new combo could start here, because of downbeat and vocal who can be interpretated as new music phrase Done
5. 01:02:633 (3,4,5) - fix spacing please (3,4) have 1x DS and (4,5) 0.9x DS ._. Fixed
6. 01:06:599 (1) - if OD weren't so low i would say the spinner is way to short. It is a gray area for me. You are one of these mappers who have OD = AR if OD were -1 of AR like most people would do this spinner would be way more okay OD-1
7. 01:39:875 (1,2,3) - i don't like the spacing between (2,3). (1,2) had 0.9x and (2,3) have 0.7x . If you want a slow down well maybe try 0.8 but well 0.9 is good for me Fits to me.
8. 02:02:633 (2) - bow should face up. Feels more natural for me. I would prefer 02:02:633 (2) - being mirrored from 01:59:530 (4) - on X-Axis for a nicer symmetric I wasn't going for symmetry and I don't want the bow in a different direction.
9. 02:10:909 (3) - bow should face down. I don't know the whole pattern looks more friendly for me then and plays better for me I want to keep
10. 02:36:427 (2) - sounds a bit of for me. 1/6 earlier? It is off, but not by 1/6th.
11. 02:38:496 (4) - sounds weird again. It sounds better though if you add a note on 02:38:151 - No?
12. 03:06:771 (3) - sliderend sounds weird to me. Maybe use hitsounds? Sounds fine to me
13. 03:10:909 (2,1) - wow, spacing is bad It's not bad, just different. Anyways I made it 0.9

[Collab]
[list][*]Could be that the OD is so high but i have the feeling the timing is abit off. I get incredible many 100s and sometimes 50s. This is not so noticable on the other diffs because of the low OD but i think you should recheck timing
TheVileOne
[*]00:15:047 (4,5) - sliderends sound off .-. make them quieter or hitsounds or idk Lowered it to 15%
[*]00:20:220 (4,5) - jump does not fit that much there. Try lowering spacing a bit. For example distance is 00:24:358 (4,5) - fine for me here I like playing it....
[*]03:05:737 (4) - maybe new combo Meh.... I don't want one, the combo is too small.
[*]03:16:082 (4) - I would like to see a bow that is symmetrical when mirrored on x-axis by ctrl + j What do you want? Whatever it is I probably wont change.


good luck
hope to see that ranked on / before christmas

LunarSakuya wrote:

Hey

General
- Delete "collab" from tags. It's like putting easy/normal/hard in tags (there is some ranked maps with collab/collaboration in tags)
- The note colors of pimpG and Collab are still at default (at least for me) (yes i may use my own custom colors, thats would make the three difficulties to have diferent combo colors, its under the rules i gess)

pimpG
00:39:875 (1,3) - Replace (3) by copy and pasting (1), for same shape (x)
02:01:944 (1) - Delete NC, seems kinda pointless (there is a point in adding a nc here, but ok for now)
02:10:220 (1) - ^ (^)
02:53:668 (1) - ^ (^)
03:01:944 (1) - ^ (^)

Cute song, nice map =v= Good luck!! ( thank you )

LunarSakuya wrote:

Collab
00:37:116 (4,5) - Try this rhythm instead http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/517085, aka reverse the rhythm Will do
01:38:668 (8,9) - Shorten distance like the others Sound like jumps, but okay.
01:44:013 (1) - Needs hitsound imo Damnit, I put one there before this. Now theres one
02:19:185 (7) - NC Added NC
02:33:668 (1,2) - Shapes don't match Now they do


Cute song, nice map =v= Good luck!!

LunarSakuya wrote:

Hey

General
- Delete "collab" from tags. It's like putting easy/normal/hard in tags
- The note colors of pimpG and Collab are still at default (at least for me)

Easy
00:17:116 (4) - NC here instead of the next note Eh that wouldn't follow my hitsound pattern I use for the rest of the section.
00:31:599 (1,2,1) - Make equal spacing I'd rather not. I'm working with the space I have, and the spacing changes make everything fit. Unless someone suggests me a screen pick on how it should be instead i'm not changing it.
00:34:702 (2,1) - ^ shorten distance, using distance snap will be easier for beginners? ^
00:24:013 (2) - I think you should start the slider on 00:24:358, rhythm makes more sense imo http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/517076 Meh I want my current slider.
00:52:289 (1) - Whistle at beginning Yes
00:54:358 (3) - ^ Don't want one
01:21:254 (1) - Extend by 1/3, then start spinner right after it http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/517079 Maybe. I don't really want to start a spinner immediately after a note in the easiest difficulty.
01:41:944 (3) - Ending at the red tick before sounds nicer imo, right on the bell sound Not changing, following vocals
01:59:530 (4) - the Finish at the beginning sounds a little overwhelming, maybe add whistle instead Done
02:36:427 (2,4) - I feel like these start at odd rhythms Changed it up a bit
03:06:771 (3) - Shorten by one red tick
03:10:909 (2) - ^ No^

Collab
00:12:978 (1) - Center this using y-axis? It's closer to the center now. Not quite though, but I will wait and see if anyone else has issue with it.
03:37:461 (6) - NC, as finishing touch? xD Fine

Cute song, nice map =v= Good luck!!

VinylDash14 wrote:

Modmodmodmodmodmodmodmod~

50th post yay~

[General]

FIRST Kiai time should end right here 02:16:082 - (i think the current is better)
The colors are not the same for pimpG and Collab. (even you vinyl? ;_;)

[pimpG]

00:37:806 (3) - You don't really need the extra two points next to the slider begin/end and slider repeat. (i do need them because its the shape i wanted it to be)
00:43:323 - Could add a note here (i'm mostly mapping vocal, and if i add a note here it ruin my symmetry)
00:43:668 - And here for the rhythm because 00:42:978 (6) - as a background part. (^)
00:51:944 - Add note? (^)
00:59:875 - ^ (^)
01:00:220 - ^ (^)
01:03:496 (6) - I feel like this should be a circle at 01:03:668 - Although I'm not sure. (too fast to be converted as a circle, for a normal diff imo)
01:18:151 (4) - A point in the center of a slider when it already has its shape with the other 4 points makes it worse. (i'm happy with this slider shape ^^)
01:27:461 (1) - Remove finish (okay)
01:34:702 (10) - Finish (maybe)
01:36:771 (2) - Something like this? http://puu.sh/1zv8w (not so diferent from my current slider, its good too but i'm happy with what i got here)
01:50:047 - Could map until here.......... maybe (i prefer my current break)
02:02:978 (1) - Remove NC? (i'll do that if enough people complain)
02:14:875 (4) - Eh... maybe remove whistles for the repeat (i'm following vocal)
02:23:496 (1) - Why this extremely short spinner that doesn't really flow? I would remove it and add some beats in here. (the spinner fits the vocal)
02:33:668 (1) - Extend this spinner to 02:35:737 - and remove finish (this spinner follows vocal)
02:54:702 (1) - Remove NC (i'll do that if enough people complain)
02:59:530 (1) - Remove this spinner and add some beats. (x)
03:07:806 (1) - Remove new combo and let 03:08:840 (2) - be on its own for a combo? (looks strange)

[Collab]

pimpG

01:05:047 (3) - Something a bit wider like this? http://puu.sh/1zvBd (the slider end must to be aligned to the center)
01:07:806 (5) - Finish (maybe)
02:11:254 (4,5,6) - Could be a better triangle. 02:11:944 (6) - could be brought down to 1.19 spacing. Much better triangle~ (x)
02:38:151 (2,3,4) - Spacing could be brought up just a little bit (i was thinking about it too, but i gess its fine since its the slowest part in the song, i'll increase spacing if more people complain)

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Collab:
Normal/Aesthetics mod:
00:41:254 (4,1) - why do you purposely make these partial overlaps? Overlaps like are not nice to look at Fixed
00:49:185 (5,6,7) - stacking makes this have a lackluster appearance. I advise you rearrange these notes ^
01:29:530 (3) - this slider is sharper than I would like Alright..
01:40:909 (6,2) - same as 00:41:254 (4,1) They're not overlapping imo..(Well on my side it isn't because TVO hasn't updated my parts.)
01:47:461 (6) - overlaps with the hp bar look worse than normal overlaps because the hp bar does not fade. I highly advise you rearrange these notes Fixed

blissfulyoshi wrote:

pimpG:
Normal/Aesthetics mod:
01:58:496 (1,1) - this is a pretty small gap inbetween spinner and note; are you sure you want to do this? (it fits better as it is imo, so i am)
02:12:978 (2) - The turns on the slider look incredibly sharp. The slider would look a lot better if you smooth out those turns (i tryed but i just made it worse)
02:35:737 - This is a random space for a break. They are still singing and the music is still pretty much at the smae volume (i think the break fits, and thats the 1st time that i map a long song for rank, i tryed my best to dont repeat myself in the symmetry and all...)
02:50:220 (1) - why are you mapping the verse that you skipped? (this spinner fits imo, but i dont mind of removing it if i really need)
02:59:530 (1,1) - you really want to torture players with short spinners (i swear i'm not trying to make people miss, but spiner fits better the back piano imo, also, if i just place circles or sliders here it will ruin my symmetry)

Combo mod:
02:02:978 (1) - remove new combo to follow the lyrics? (your combos so far have followed the lyrics) (fixed)
02:31:599 (1) - ^ (fixed)
02:54:702 (1) - ^ (fixed)

Collab:
Normal/Aesthetics mod:
01:58:496 (1,1) - this is a pretty small gap inbetween spinner and note; are you sure you want to do this? (same warning I gave you previous diff) (as i said before)
02:15:737 (5,1) - minor overlap is aesthetically unpleasing to me (since this is a symmetric part, i cant move it, the overlapped note is from vinyl part, i asked him to fix it)


Combo mod:
You keep switching between 1 to 2 downbeats for reasons that I sometimes don't understand, so I won't mod the combos here
============================
TVO, your maps need help on aesthetics. I highly recommend you remove overlaps and learn how to make some of the symmetric sliders that pimpG makes. pimpG, symmetry mapping seems to work quite well for you. There are a few minor aesthetics and combo things, but your diff is pretty much good to go. My only main worry is how much you want to torture players with those spinners, but I'll let you decide on what to do there. VinylDash14, don't really have much to say about you sorry xD.
In short, this map can be ranked by Christmas, but it definitely needs some cleanup before I would bubble it. If a nicer MAT/BAT wants to bubble it, go ahead.

pimpG wrote:

02:15:737 (5,1) - minor overlap is aesthetically unpleasing to me (since this is a symmetric part, i cant move it, the overlapped note is from vinyl part, i asked him to fix it)

Kitagami wrote:

Hi, hi! (o/)

General

1. I thinks it's better for you to rename the MP3 on the Song Folder. It has the name of the website where you downloaded it. (i noticed that since we started the map, but i was too lazy to fix it, but i dont think its something to worry about, if vile decides to fix then ok)

I liked the Background, but I found another one that gives a stronger feeling of "Christmas" (and it's beautiful)! Take a look ^^ (I already cropped what it wasn't needed and resized it). (oh i remember this bg, we used it before ^^, indeed its stronger as feeling of xmas, but i like my current bg, their faces looks like "happy" xmas a bit more than your bg, it looks like "i'm surprised"... well i'm going to keep my bg in my diff, but if vile and vinyl wants to use it the other diffs, fine)

The Other Background

If you are not going to use the background above, just resize the actual one. It's too big. Resize it to 800x600, this way it makes the OSZ file smaller. (the recomended is to use 1024 768, its on the guidelines)

pimpG

Hmm, já que você é do Brasil, acho que posso moddar em Português mesmo, não é? xD (pode pah! sim )

Gostei do jeito que mapeou, ficou bom! Só vou apontar umas coisinhas aqui e ali.

1. 01:07:806 - Uma nota aqui? Eu acho que sem ela fica muito tempo de intervalo. (eu na verdade nao queria, mas ja teve mais gente que comentou sobre isso, entao ok)
2. 01:16:082 - ^ (^)
3. 01:27:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Esse combo é muito grande para o "Normal", eu acho o_O (com exeçao do followpoint e da cor da nota, o nc nao afeta a jogabilidade, entao nao vai ficar mais facil se eu deixar o combo menor, e eu nao posso usar um nc no meio do combo só pra deixar ele menor, pois esse é o padrao de nc q usei n map inteiro)
4. 01:31:599 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - ^ (^)
5. 02:12:633 (1) - Muito espaço. Aqui você pode usar 1.0x mesmo, já que não tem tanto tempo de intervalo que nem 01:34:702 (10,1) Onde você era obrigado a usar um espaçamento menor. (nao tem problema quebrar o ds de vez em quando, eu normalmente nao quebro ds, mas achei que ia ficar melhor assim, é um map de simetria, acabou tendo alguns sacrificios como esse...)
6. 02:20:909 (1) - ^ (^)

Ok, I'm going to stop here! I think this mod became kind of... long? xD (a bit long ^^, but dont worry about it, as long as you are sugesting good things, you are free to make your mod as long as possible )

Well, good luck! And Merry Christmas! (thank you, and merry xmas to you too )

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Easy:
Normal/Aesthetics mod:
This in general does not look that great with so many notes touching, but with your current mapping style, you can't really do much. Just remember how your map looks next time you map. Understood. I was going for an oldschool, linking sliders type map. I was inspired by a map whose name I do not remember.
00:34:702 (2) - slightly random to have a linear slider in the middle of so many curved sliders I agree, fixed.
00:50:565 (3) - even if it breaks distance snap for the next note, put this to the left side of 2 so 2 flows into 3. 3 is not really creating its own pattern, and distance snap does not really matter if there is large time lapses between notes Done
00:56:082 (4,1) - rearrange into a pattern that flows better It's better now.
02:02:633 (2) - I feel this flows with compliments the previous slider better if the center is aligned with the y-axis Done.
02:31:599 (1) - spinner does not have new combo, on purpose? Yes, but it doesn't make sense for there not to be a new combo there, so changed.

Combo mod:
02:58:496 (1) - why did you add a new combo here? You have a pattern of a new combo every 2 downbeats, but this breaks it I like a new combo there. It's more visually appealing to see the sliders as a separate combo


Collab:
Normal/Aesthetics mod:
00:12:978 (1) - starting a map with a long asymmetric slider that looks like it is trying to by symmetrical...probably not a good idea I wasn't trying to be symmetrical. I might try to fix this last minute, but for right now I am content with the way it is. If you could show me how you visualize this working as a symmetrical slider I am more likely to change it, because previous attempts at achieving this did not turn out so well.
00:41:254 (4,1) - why do you purposely make these partial overlaps? Overlaps like are not nice to look at Failed experiment- fixed now
01:40:909 (6,2) - same as 00:41:254 (4,1) Made better


In short, this map can be ranked by Christmas, but it definitely needs some cleanup before I would bubble it. If a nicer MAT/BAT wants to bubble it, go ahead.

Kitagami wrote:

Hi, hi!

General

1. I thinks it's better for you to rename the MP3 on the Song Folder. It has the name of the website where you downloaded it. To rename and not get an "Audio not found" error, do this: Changed.
   
   1. Close Osu!
   2. Open the Song Folder
   3. Rename the MP3
   4. Open each difficult OSU file on Notepad or any other text editor
   5. Copy the new name of the MP3
   6. On the OSU files, replace the old mp3 name on "AudioFilename" with the new one (don't forget to put the .mp3 extension)
2. I liked the Background, but I found another one that gives a stronger feeling of "Christmas" (and it's beautiful)! Take a look ^^ (I already cropped what it wasn't needed and resized it).
   
   
   The Other Background

   
   Colors make it harder to see the notes properly.
   
3. If you are not going to use the background above, just resize the actual one. It's too big. Resize it to 800x600, this way it makes the OSZ file smaller.

Proper dimensions are 1024 x 768

Easy

Eh? What is the spacing in this difficult? It keeps changing (inconsistency), so I don't really know (seems like you used Distance Snap sometimes, but sometimes you didn't). I'll mod based on 0.9x spacing (since you used it on most part of the song). There's no need for making big jumps since this difficult is Easy. Jumps? I used what looked best.

Oh, have you tried using View> Grid Level> 4 (most precise)? Try using it and check the spacing again, it will change minimal things, but it will help getting some consistency on spacing. Normally I don't use grid snap. And i do use most precise, I think in certain cases, the small spacing differences make it look more natural. I will fix spacings as I feel fit.

Note snapping suggestions

1. 00:31:599 (1,2,1,2) - How about extending each one of these sliders to a 3/2 slider. I think it would sound better. (Check this image) But don't forget to check the spacing (it should be 0.9x, if you followed the other steps). It's a design choice to reduce these sliders. I'm not changing their orientation as it would require considerable remapping and it would look worse off. The way I have it, it looks and plays alright. How well it sounds is less important.
2. 02:16:082 - Add a note here? Feels like something is missing. I dislike how it plays though.
3. 03:06:771 (3) - Finishing this slider at 03:07:806 would sound better, since it will follow the song better. Personnel preference and carries better flow the way I have it. The transition doesn't play nearly as well if I end it other than how I have it
4. 03:10:909 (2) - Same as the previous item, but finishing it at 03:11:944 ^
5. 03:08:840 - Add a note here, too? Following vocals here- personnel preference

Combo suggestions

1. 01:16:082 (4) - New combo here? Each combo here lasts 2 full measures.
2. 02:07:806 (4) - ^ I want to keep for similar reasons as above.
3. 02:38:496 (4) - ^ Okay.
4. 02:39:875 (2) - Remove New Combo No. I don't think that's a good idea.
5. 02:41:944 (1) - New Combo here? Unsure if I want one here.

Spacing Issues

1. 00:14:013 (2,3) - Change them to (0.9x). You need to set one spacing and use it on the whole song. Unless the song asks for a jump or an anti-jump (this song is not the case). No i do not have to. There are plenty of songs that use variable spacing. The spacing just needs to make sense. At this time I'd rather not change my snap here. i did clean up the spacing though. Actually i cleaned up the spacing at 16 seconds
2. 00:16:082 (1,2,3,1,2) - ^ ^
3. 00:19:875 (1) - Too much spacing. Plays alright to me. It's the right distance away to be visually appealing.
4. 00:21:944 (1) - ^ I'm sorry but I can't make spacing follow 0.9 through here. It should be 1.0 and I don't want to move this 00:24:013 (1,2) -
5. 00:24:013 (1) - Change the spacing to (0.9x). No. That's too much, and it interferes with my pattern.
6. 00:26:427 (2) - Too much spacing. Lowered to 0.92 snap. I do not want to space any closer.
7. 00:27:461 (1) - ^ I want to keep this. Getting the curves to look right sometimes requires the spacing to be a little different. I don't want to ruin this curve by trying to fix spacing that doesn't need to be fixed.
8. 00:27:461 (1,2,3,4) - Change the spacing between these notes to (0.9x) No. I like 0.8
9. 00:30:565 (2,3,4,1) - ^ ^
10. 00:32:633 (2) - I know, if you use (0.9x) of spacing here, the sliders will become too close and it will become weird. But try changing the slider format to some other thing that you can use the right spacing and it won't become weird. There's no sense making the map worse just to be consistent.
11. 00:35:737 (1) - Too much spacing.Not changing the spacing previous to it.
12. 00:37:116 (2) - Small spacing. Made it 0.88 to even out the spacing.
13. 00:52:289 (1) - Too much spacing A change isn't need IMO.
14. 00:53:323 (2,3) - Small spacing between them. Fixed.
15. 01:40:909 (2,3) - ^ Intentional slowdown.
16. 01:56:427 (1,2,3,4) - Change the spacing between them to (0.9x)? ^
17. 02:10:909 (3) - Small spacing Done for cosmetic purposes.
18. 02:17:116 (1) - Too much spacing Increased snap is intentional- this part is 0.94/1.0
19. 02:21:254 (1,2) - ^ (between them) ^
20. 02:26:427 (2) - ^ ^
21. 02:25:392 (1) - Too much spacing. ^
22. 02:29:530 (1,2) - Small spacing between them. Spacing difference is negligible.
23. 02:36:427 (2) - Too much spacing. There is no issue here. Difference is negligible.
24. 02:38:496 (4) - ^ Design choice- changing this would ruin my pattern.
25. 02:44:013 (1) - Distance snaping glitch, it's saying "Prev: 1.18x" o_O (Change it to 0.9x and rotate this slider a little bit) This slider was only spaced 0.91, made it perfectly 0.9
26. 02:47:116 (3) - Too much spacing Difference is negligible.
27. 02:50:220 (2) - ^ Changed spacing to 0.94 from 0.96
28. 02:53:668 (2) - ^ Not worth changing
29. 02:56:427 (1) - ^ Spacing change is complementary IMO.
30. 02:56:427 (1,2,3) - Small spacing between them Negligible...
31. 03:00:909 (2) - Too much spacing. Fixed
32. 03:01:599 (4) - Small spacing. Unsure if fixed, I tweaked this part and am happy with how it looks.
33. 03:02:633 (5) - Too much spacing. Fixed
34. 03:09:875 (1) - Small spacing Intentional slowdown
35. 03:14:013 (2,3,4) - Small spacing between them. ^

[*]01:10:220 (3) - Why the spacing here is 1.2x? I think you can use 1.0x as well. If it's because you want this note to be aligned with 01:10:909 (2) just move it along ^^ I wanted a larger spacing here as a jump. I fixed the spacing.
[*]01:11:771 (4,5) - Can't we use 1.0x here? I know these notes are pretty "fast", but on 01:06:599 (1,2,3,4) the spacing wasn't changed. (the notes timing is similar) I don't really want to. the idea was to compress and I did not map the part at 1:06. I map my parts differently in a collab.
[*]01:22:289 (2) - If you want to make a circle here, I think it's better for you to rotate this Horizontaly and 90° anticlockwise and place it using 1.0x of spacing. It will help the flow. Screenshot or I'm not doing it.


[*]03:16:082 (4) - This slider disturbs the flow a little bit... I think a slider that comes from up to down, or at least, from left to right, would look better. I like it's current position. ._.[/list][/notice]

Ok, I'm going to stop here! I think this mod became kind of... long? xD

Well, good luck! And Merry Christmas!

Kitagami wrote:

[notice] Collab

In general, I liked the difficult. It's just that, in my opinion, there are too many parts where the spacing is different for a better visualization sake (How can I explain this...? Like, when you want to place a note here or there just because it visually looks better). I'll try to point out some.
[list][*]00:35:737 (1,2,3) - The spacing between them is 0.9x! I don't think it's needed here, since it will become 1.0x again, later. Fixed, but I don't think I like it imo.
[*]00:40:565 (2,3,4,5) - The spacing between them is inconsistent, I don't know where it's 0.8x or 0.9x o_O Fixed
[*]00:50:909 (3) - Using 1.0x here is okay, plus this is the only not in this combo that is using 1.1x of spacing. It's now 1.0x spacing. This combo is a bit fast imo.
[*]01:36:427 (2) - Kind of small spacing. It's 0.94x when it should be 1.0x (ha, ha! Such a small detail ^^') Fixed.
[*]01:37:806 (6) - Why is the spacing here 0.9x? You were using 1.0x until then. ^
[*]01:40:909 (6) - I don't think this big jump is needed here. Did you just want this slider to be at the centre? If so, I think it's better for you to replace it with the right spacing because I don't think it really affects the visualization. No, It's fine the way it for now.
[*]01:42:633 (2,3,4) - The spacing here changes from note to note... I think it's better to use just one. It was focused on symmetry from 01:43:668 (4,1) - and 01:42:633 (2,3) -
[*]01:45:047 (4) - This is one of those notes that are here just because of the visualization (to be in the middle of the triangle). I think you can stack it together with 01:44:013 (1,5) No.


Ok, I'm going to stop here! I think this mod became kind of... long? xD

Well, good luck! And Merry Christmas!

TheVileOne wrote:

Kitagami wrote:

[*]01:22:289 (2) - If you want to make a circle here, I think it's better for you to rotate this Horizontaly and 90° anticlockwise and place it using 1.0x of spacing. It will help the flow. Screenshot or I'm not doing it.

pimpG wrote:

time to mod collab again

00:41:944 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - select all this notes and ctrl H, i think it will flow better with the previous notes like that Flows better.
00:44:702 (2) - move to x40 y152, same reason above Following a symmetry. I will not ignore this, and will look into it.
00:47:116 (8) - x472 y 152, same reason above and to complete the mirror shape ^
00:47:806 (1,2,3,4) - select all and ctrl H, same reason above Personally, I like this idea, but the flow of it is slow between those combos, so I just put it kind outward to where it is now.
01:40:047 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - this part still have to be "remapped", should not be so difficult to do it, its just 4 secounds of the map It's fine for now. Noone's really complaining about it, or just not putting a really big idea.
01:44:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - make it a star pattern o something? Nah. Triangle looks better.
02:19:702 (3) - i think this note sounds bad, would be better to remove it imo, I hear a beat in there, so no.
..........
02:27:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing is too easy here, specially in (1) to (2). try this: Re-worked.

SPOILER

select (2,4) use ctrl+G

02:28:496 (5) - move to x316 y172 , turn grid snap off and move 2nd curve point x256 y110 , 3rd curve point x196 y172 Nice idea, but I'm afraid it will be a bad choice for a flow connection for the rest of my part.
02:29:185 (6) - move to x256 y200 (stacked in the 1st note in this combo) ^

SPOILER

or just use the code for (2,3,4,5,6)

96,232,147806,1,2,0:0:0
136,272,147979,1,0,0:0:0
192,280,148151,1,0,0:0:0
316,172,148496,2,0,P|256:110|196:172,1,192,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
256,200,149185,1,0,0:0:0

..........
02:29:530 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - the style is fine but the ds is too small Fixed

thats all for now