buy tablet, free supporter tag
SOLD... Now I can stop murdering intuos pens XDpeppy wrote:
It does not have pressure sensitive input..
Winshley wrote:
Voted "No" because tablet's are kinda pricey anyway. Plus, I don't wanna use tablet only for osu! anyway. ;_;
I would say "Yes" if it's osu! mouse and/or mousepad. Or maybe keyboard with osu! logo on Windows key cap. xD
maybe same like me, but I always curious how it feels play with tablet o.oskyboy19 wrote:
some people say no because most of them are playing with their mouse
This, sadly. 65% of the community (based on this General Discussion poll) are less than 18 years old and probably don't have a credit card to buy a tablet. The poll results here are thus heavily distorted.Wishy22 wrote:
Most people usually say "YEAH I'D BUY THAT XD" but actually they won't for several reasons. They even don't care that much, or are underage and have no way to pay for it, etc.
2- You can get an excellent Wacom product for pretty much the same money or maybe a little more. There is no real reason to buy some new brand, not as good product just to save a few bucks. Remember Wacom's CTH 460 (tablet everyone used before CTL series came out) is only $55 on Amazon, while pen only model must be a little cheaper (guessing around 45 bucks from the price difference I saw years ago when I bought my tablet). So, would you buy a random brand (no offense) tablet instead of a top brand one just for saving like 10 bucks? General answer will be: no.I wouldn't exactly call wacom an excellent product more like a monopolizing product. They did have better features at one point in time like individual pen ID's and dual track which would work wonders when used with mudbox but thats the past. You need to remember that wacom's aren't meant to be used for clicking circles vigorously for hours on end and having my pens cost about 55 bux a piece after shipping to replace, playing osu! with it really isn't an option. Sure I could buy a bamboo but why buy something that will ultimately have the same fate as its big brother? Being what peppy offers has no pressure support this already elevates the main point of failure in the wacom pens and I can almost guarantee that it will out last any wacom pen and be cheaper to replace in the event of failure.
3- People buying graphic tablets for serious reasons (not for osu!) will get a Wacom, always, since they're the best for any kind of art/design works. Really you gotta be an idiot if you seriously intend to do some design works and get an osu! tablet instead of a Wacom just for saving 15 bucks, which is not that much money anyways.Peppy isnt selling this to make art with but a fun fact is that you'd be surprised what you can get away with on a cheap tablet or when your pen's pressure sensor is shot.
idk if this is true but from what I heard CTL-460 is discontinued (and I'm pretty sure so is CTH-460) and it is the only Wacom tablet that costs less than 100$ which you can get your hands on in the market easily. Maybe you still can get them on eBay or Amazon however they might already be old and/or in limited stock. Also CTL-460 seems to have the least durability compared to any Wacom tablet with higher price.Wishy22 wrote:
2- You can get an excellent Wacom product for pretty much the same money or maybe a little more. There is no real reason to buy some new brand, not as good product just to save a few bucks. Remember Wacom's CTH 460 (tablet everyone used before CTL series came out) is only $55 on Amazon, while pen only model must be a little cheaper (guessing around 45 bucks from the price difference I saw years ago when I bought my tablet). So, would you buy a random brand (no offense) tablet instead of a top brand one just for saving like 10 bucks? General answer will be: no.
Funny how the cheapest yet good Wacom tablet that I've seen in the market costs around 60$-75$, and that is CTL-460 itself. It's not even cheaper than osu! graphics tablet.Wishy22 wrote:
6- Use Wacom tablets are cheaper, and usually work just fine for osu!.
Can play osu! with 2 pens at once or puck and pen on Intuos 2, Wheres your master race now?Ostrovia wrote:
Intuos4 master race
Where's that possible?RBRat3 wrote:
Can play osu! with 2 pens at once or puck and pen on Intuos 2, Wheres your master race now?Ostrovia wrote:
Intuos4 master race
Intuos2 9x12 and up to12x18 has dual track that allows for 2 tools to be recognized at once, Feature was discontinued because no one developed for it.theowest wrote:
Where's that possible?
holy shit. osu!stream for your home computer!RBRat3 wrote:
Intuos2 9x12 and up to12x18 has dual track that allows for 2 tools to be recognized at once, Feature was discontinued because no one developed for it.theowest wrote:
Where's that possible?
(older tabs have all the cool bells and no whistles)
While osu! doesn't see the 2nd tool position it can recognize its position click so its basically blind play with the 2nd tool for hit circles. Puck reacts differently from the pen where it just clicks in place of the 1st tool position.
not exactly... I'd actually play like that if my left hand wasn't all retarded holding a pen, Need someone who's ambidextrous.theowest wrote:
holy shit. osu!stream for your home computer!
Frizz wrote:
idk if this is true but from what I heard CTL-460 is discontinued (and I'm pretty sure so is CTH-460) and it is the only Wacom tablet that costs less than 100$ which you can get your hands on in the market easily. Maybe you still can get them on eBay or Amazon however they might already be old and/or in limited stock. Also CTL-460 seems to have the least durability compared to any Wacom tablet with higher price.
Agreed. Nowadays its very hard to seach for CTL-460 which is the cheapest Wacom tablet products, and if i did found one, the condition was already in a not-very-good condition. The fact is, i have Hanvon Rollick 0607 with me now and i'm getting used to it but it lacks of response in short distance compared to 1st generation of Wacom product. I do have more things to say, but since Frizz already said the things right from my mouth...Frizz wrote:
Funny how the cheapest yet good Wacom tablet that I've seen in the market costs around 60$-75$, and that is CTL-460 itself. It's not even cheaper than osu! graphics tablet.
tl;dr you gotta spend around 100$ to get the cheapest and durable Wacom tablet now.
I was considering replying to your post until I saw you call people idiots. I lost all motivation.Wishy22 wrote:
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Going smaller unfortunately would bump the price up a fair amounttheowest wrote:
The tablet area is a bit too big for my taste. Most people would prefer something smaller than 3.5x5.9 inches (9x15cm).
Let's just hope the software will allow you to keep the aspect ratio when changing tablet area.
You could answer whatever you want I just stated a few facts for you, like there is no point in buying a random brand tablet when you can get a top brand one for... 5/10 extra bucks TOPS if you want a new one. Only real reason you could get one of those is for osu!'s sake.peppy wrote:
I was considering replying to your post until I saw you call people idiots. I lost all motivation.Wishy22 wrote:
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Dunno if they've been discontinued but there's still a big stock available you can find on Amazon, EbaY or stores depending where you live.Frizz wrote:
idk if this is true but from what I heard CTL-460 is discontinued (and I'm pretty sure so is CTH-460) and it is the only Wacom tablet that costs less than 100$ which you can get your hands on in the market easily. Maybe you still can get them on eBay or Amazon however they might already be old and/or in limited stock. Also CTL-460 seems to have the least durability compared to any Wacom tablet with higher price.
Funny how the cheapest yet good Wacom tablet that I've seen in the market costs around 60$-75$, and that is CTL-460 itself. It's not even cheaper than osu! graphics tablet.
tl;dr you gotta spend around 100$ to get the cheapest and durable Wacom tablet now.
You will find that said companies that produce the above are actually profit turning businesses. Osu is a free community based game, not a global hardware vendor.Metro wrote:
It's not like a Steelseries/Razer Diablo/WoW/whatever peripheral that is a bit unique.
And that matters because? The point is that an osu! tablet won't provide any benefit compared to normal tablets, not that osu! will be competing with global hardware vendors.Zallius wrote:
You will find that said companies that produce the above are actually profit turning businesses. Osu is a free community based game, not a global hardware vendor.Metro wrote:
It's not like a Steelseries/Razer Diablo/WoW/whatever peripheral that is a bit unique.
You mean $15Wishy22 wrote:
You'd be amazed of how shit is being sold every day all over the world, even when you can get better stuff at the same price if not cheaper.
Not saying his product will be bad, just saying for obvious reasons he won't be able to reach Wacom's quality, and getting a lower quality (overall) product for the sake of saving 5 bucks (assuming you get a brand new product) is kind of dumb. And if you do A LITTLE research, you'll find out buying osu! tablets will make you save the huge amount of money of: $5, which isn't really a smart idea since you can use that little extra money to get a safe, top quality product. Not that you don't do that already whenever you buy... pretty much anything.
1 - Underage kids have parentsWishy22 wrote:
I think of this as a terrible idea, because:
1- Most people usually say "YEAH I'D BUY THAT XD" but actually they won't for several reasons. They even don't care that much, or are underage and have no way to pay for it, etc.
2- You can get an excellent Wacom product for pretty much the same money or maybe a little more. There is no real reason to buy some new brand, not as good product just to save a few bucks. Remember Wacom's CTH 460 (tablet everyone used before CTL series came out) is only $55 on Amazon, while pen only model must be a little cheaper (guessing around 45 bucks from the price difference I saw years ago when I bought my tablet). So, would you buy a random brand (no offense) tablet instead of a top brand one just for saving like 10 bucks? General answer will be: no.
4- People buying a tablet just for osu! obviously don't care that much about money (yo you're buying a tablet for a goddamn rhythm game), and since they will ask for advice here and everyone will tell them Wacom is the best and that pros use Wacom tablets, then they'll probably go for the same. If you buy a tablet just for osu! it usually means you're somewhat serious about it, so you won't risk getting a possibly bad/worse tablet.
It's $15 if we talk CTH-460 brand-new. That tablet is more expensive than the other model which is just like that, but pen only. You can even get some used tablet and it will probably work just fine for many years, since people selling them usually do so since they get a new model, and not because it's broken. :pGolfdinger wrote:
You mean $15
1- Many parents just go "gtfo" when you ask them for something pretty much useless/aimed for a game. I know many players that never got a tablet for this game because of that.Sorun wrote:
1 - Underage kids have parents
2 - Obviously the osu! design novelty plays a role in the purchase of one, but peppy mentioned that this tablet has more hover distance then any the Wacom tabs he has tried which in my opinion is a convincing enough feature to make the purchase.
4 - I see kids buying $100+ gaming peripherals from modded controllers (just for looks... leds, lights) to mech keyboards, I see no difference here.
Cause peppy is asking this because he's gonna make some considerable INVESTMENT. Retarded optimism is no good for this kind of stuff, you gotta be at least a little objective. Point being only real pro about this is you may save a few bucks and get an osu! logo, real situation is you're paying a little less (if not the same or even more, didn't research that much) for a lower quality product. Since people usually ask others what to buy, and most will tell them Wacom (since pretty much EVERYONE uses a Wacom nowadays) this could be an epic failure, which means lose money. Some of the other reason I stated are just a reality, everyone will always say "yay I'll but it", truth is MOST WON'T because of any reason you can think of.Hanyuu wrote:
well wishy why do you just have to see the bad things in everything. some people may want to have a tablet with osu! on it and not everyone is playing like they are super pro. also it is not extremely pricey and you can not get this anywhere else.. but i agree with the pen battery that sounds a bit awkward
What stops you?Marcin wrote:
but if i could get some
Its pressure sensitive.BRBP wrote:
All I care about is how light the pen is, and how accurately the tablet measures pressure.
So probably not.
Edit: AAA Battery? Never
Basically a KickstarterVext wrote:
One unlikely possibility to negate the risk would be to have the users actually commit to buying one before you order them. This is highly unlikely to work but it is plausible. Have everyone who really wants one to essentially order a ticket (like a pre-order but paid in full, not just $5 down) from you for the tablet. If you meet the mark for how many you need to get sold to order them by a certain date then go with it, if not return the money and walk away without any loss. But again I can't see people actually willing to commit like this.
yes pleaseJenny wrote:
- - Along with that, the driver would have to allow disabling the click on pentip / letting us as the users adjust what a tap does
I'll let you GuessBRBP wrote:
What stops you?Marcin wrote:
but if i could get some
Pretty much this. I've already invested in a Bamboo tablet and it seems like this tablet is pretty much the same if not worse than a Wacom.Kaoru wrote:
Seeing as I already have a tablet, I probably wouldn't buy one. Unless there were advantages of one over the other. Only then would i reconsider.
Thiszoomxritz wrote:
no osu branded mouse? D;
Lanturn wrote:
Another suggestion that might help you sell them is to give a supporter tag for a month or two with the purchase maybe? You never know, it might sell more that way.. People like bonuses from stuff they buy
This. I would have if this was available when I bought a tablet to replace mouse for Osu! but now it's too late for me.Kaoru wrote:
Seeing as I already have a tablet, I probably wouldn't buy one. Unless there were advantages of one over the other. Only then would i reconsider.
YES! I would actually buy one of those! This is a great idea!peppy wrote:
I have been in contact with a tablet manufacturer, and it would seem it may be possible to make osu!-branded tablet. It would be an 8x5" tablet with a custom osu! design, and I'd be aiming to sell it for the cheapest feasibly possible (currently looking to be about $35-40 + shipping). I have already tested one and the performance is on-par with cheaper wacom tablets I have used, with the only major difference being a battery operated pen. After a week of use I haven't seen this as a problem, both considering weight (single AAA battery) and battery life (4,000 hours continuous use). Spare nibs would also be included for the hardcore players.
The biggest issue is that in order to get them at such a cheap price, I will need to order in bulk. I am tentative to take up such an investment unless I know there are enough people that would be interested in buying one of these devices, so please use this thread to let me know. If possible, share it with others that you think would be interested, too!
Keep in mind this would likely be the cheapest tablet you can buy in many regions of the world, even after shipping. That is my aim, anyway.