Tshemmp wrote:

[Insane]
Ich weiß wegen der AR... 9 passt irgendwie nicht so zum Song. Allerdings sind manche Jumps auf AR 8 auch eklig zu spielen. Aber da es schon eine AR 9 Diff gibt, würde ich die AR hier auf 8 setzen. AR8 spielt sich bei der diff widerlich. Was ist so schlimm daran wenn 2 Diffs die selbe AR haben?
00:44:351 - die rote Timing Section muss 00:44:361 sein (wie in allen anderen Diffs) ka wie das passiert ist. Ausgebessert!
01:07:456 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - soll der Stream so unsymmetrisch sein? Ist jetz' symmetrisch
01:19:577 - hier würde ich auf jeden Fall etwas mappen, die Lücke passt nicht ma sehen wie es jetz ist.
01:20:695 - ^ ^
01:21:813 - ^ Unsicher ... weil ein Jump entsteht ... ma schaun
01:22:745 (1) - NC hier passt nicht, vom Song her gehören 01:22:000 (1,2,1) zusammen, das sollte auch von den Combofarben und in der Map ersichtlich sein. Was Neues kommt dann 01:23:118 (2), deshalb sollte nier die NC sowie der Slider anders angeordnet sein, denn momentan sieht es so aus, als gehörten 01:22:745 (1,2) zusammen, was sie von Song her nicht tun. Außerdem passt es nicht, dass 01:23:118 (2,1,2) vom Song her zusammen gehören, es aber in der Map überhaupt nicht sind. Man kann es zum Beispiel so machen:

SPOILER

SPOILER

Du musst halt 01:23:490 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) so nach unten verschieben, dass der Circle, mit dem du den Slider bei 01:23:118 ersetzt noch über die anderen drüber passt.

SPOILER

256,236,82745,2,0,B|256:146,1,90
344,16,83118,5,0
168,368,83490,1,0
344,104,83863,1,2
168,280,84236,5,2
344,192,84608,1,0
168,192,84981,1,2
344,280,85354,5,2
168,104,85726,1,0
344,368,86099,1,2

Ziemlich gut :3 Ich übernehm den Code

1. First off, what's the point to make the entire difficulty a damn jump? Really, it is just annoying, even in the slow parts there are random jumps = ='
2. 00:06:535 (2,3,4,5,6) These streams are so annoying when they're not well used, I suggest to change this pattern.
3. 00:07:281 (2,3,4,5,6) ^ Same as above.
4. 00:31:131 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) I'm okay with patterns like this, but trying to put a very hard jump between (5,6) is not a good idea, playing a jump that is between the Hyperdash and No-Hyperdash is not fun and sometimes is quite hard, please reduce the distance.
5. 00:35:417 - In my opinion this is a slow part, there shouldn't be that big jumps, strongly suggest to change it and make something more "interesting".
6. I think you should consider everything above to the second half of the map, because you uses copy-paste.

Tshemmp wrote:

[General]
Ein bisschen komisch finde ich, dass 3 GDs den Namen ihres jeweiligen Guestmappers enthalten, 2 jedoch nicht. Du solltest es konsistent machen. Ich werd Nitojgrem dazu "zwingen" es in CTB Rain umzubenennen, was den Taiko Diff betrifft, es wäre komisch, das der nicht Ono's Taiko Oni heißen würde, da der Diff-Name schon fame ist. Falls du "Jenny" meinst: Er bestand drauf, den Diff so zu nennen. Weil er es sonst Jenny's Lunatic nennen würde. orz Und Lunatic mag er es auch nicht nennen.

[Normal]
01:00:758 (3,4) - (3) legt sich ja noch einigermaßen gut um den Anfang von (4), aber 4 ist irgendwie zu eckig und legt sich nicht gut um das Ende von (3). Das Problem ist hauptsächlich, dass sich ein Slider um den anderen legt, der andere sich aber nicht um den einen. Entweder beide oder keiner, da sie so zusammen gehören. (Oder meine Augen sind einfach nur kaputt). Ich hab's geändert, sollte jetzt eigentlich ganz okay sein.

[Easy]
00:38:771 (4) - noch ein Repeat hinzufügen mit einem Finish drauf? Nein, ich hab diesen Vorschlag zichmal abgelehnt, sorry.

Sehr rundes, sauberes Mapset, mit schönen Slidern. owo/

eldnl wrote:

[Nito's CTB Rain]

1. First off, what's the point to make the entire difficulty a damn jump? Really, it is just annoying, even in the slow parts there are random jumps = =' well, I can understand when you say this (and you gave a reason, thanks :3) but I can't agree with "randomness". And otherwise... I think it's here as well a matter of the personal opinion, so what you like and what not. I know this is a complete jump map but with future maps I'll really consider it more :3
2. 00:06:535 (2,3,4,5,6) These streams are so annoying when they're not well used, I suggest to change this pattern. We talked shortly ingame about this and you now my answer... I won't change it^^
3. 00:07:281 (2,3,4,5,6) ^ Same as above. I. Agree.
4. 00:31:131 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) I'm okay with patterns like this, but trying to put a very hard jump between (5,6) is not a good idea, playing a jump that is between the Hyperdash and No-Hyperdash is not fun and sometimes is quite hard, please reduce the distance. Sure... I wasn't that confidient with that part by now and this helped a bit to make it better, so changed with the help of Drafura's mod as well :3
5. 00:35:417 - In my opinion this is a slow part, there shouldn't be that big jumps, strongly suggest to change it and make something more "interesting". hmm, well I could (!) agree that it's a bit boring but well, imo these jumps still fit to the music because it's kind of a... uhm.. "increasing of... maybe tension (?)" all the time... and then after the half I want to decrease it so it can start from new with the repetation afterwards. (yes, my English is bad >>)
6. I think you should consider everything above to the second half of the map, because you uses copy-paste. thanks for reminding me >_>

You need to ask for more mods, good luck ! thank you! :3

Drafura wrote:

[Nito's CTB Rain]
00:26:473 (5,6,7,8,9) - ugly, make a simple curve ? fix'd =w=
00:31:131 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Non-sense with the timeline, if you want to map the piano here you should use THIS timeline (The first slider is the same as yours). Defenetly, changed.
00:43:243 (10) - This slider should end at : 00:44:174 - Check pattern to avoid stupid jump. Fix'd (and the slider reverted)
00:44:361 - to end : What about finding some new patterns instead of copy pasting ? I know that I used c&p in this map... but I made the decision for using it and won't change it this time. I know that c&p is often a bit boring because it's just the same but reverted... but in the case of this ZUN song (who makes mostly repeating rhythms >:) I think c&p isn't that bad thing because (at least for me) the second part, so the reversed one, is even harder than the first D:

LKs wrote:

hi ctb mod as pre your req

sry for the long delay and my poor CTB skill

overall the map is quite challenging and interesting. I found no severe issues and here are my suggestions

00:29:734 (8,9) - move 8 and 9 to this place shown in the pic http://puu.sh/Zetp to get a better turn fix'd
01:12:683 (5,6,7,8,9) - ^same issue same answer

don't point out jumps and streams since they can be caught as long as one‘s competent. GL thanks :3

Deif wrote:

[Nito's CTB Rain]

Disable Letterbox during breaks, as you don't have any break. I didn't do that? lol... fix'd

00:11:753 (1,2,3,4) - I'd put (2) a bit closer to (1), and make (3) HDashed by moving (4) more to the left. Should be okay now o.o
00:54:982 (1,2,3,4) - ^ (mirrored) ^
00:24:982 (1) - Move it a few grids to the right, to avoid the stack with (6). <x:456> is ok. Mhh, okay, changed and I moved 00:25:728 (3) - as well to the left for the sake of symmetrie :3
01:08:211 (1) - ^ (mirrored) Same
00:55:634 (1) - This spinner is too close to the previous note. Make it 1/4 shorter at the beginning. Ah, my mistake. This spinner should start on the red stripe, not the blue like 00:12:498 (1) ^^" fix'd

Discussed some other pattens via IRC. This diff looks much better than the 1st time I saw it ^^. Great to hear ^-^

Deif wrote:

Dadadadaaaaa dadada dadadadadaaaaaaa ♪♫♪♫

[Insane]

Your 3rd uninherited timing section is 10 ms earlier than the rest of the diffs. It should be placed on 00:44:361. Remember to resnap all the notes of that section and the Kiai#3 points to the correct timing! o.o it is already like this

Also, the combo colors are different from the rest. If that wasn't intentional use these ones: thanks, didn't noticed
Combo1 : 47,140,255
Combo2 : 255,104,32
Combo3 : 170,0,0
Combo4 : 252,54,54

00:10:076 (1,2,3,4) - It feels quite empty for being an Insane. Can you add some more notes there? I think it is nice how it is. In my opinion it supports this part 00:11:566 (1,2,3,4,1) - It has this boom at the end. I would describe it like a crescendo or so.
00:12:498 (1,2,3) - Those sliders felt a bit odd while playing. Try a formation like THIS. ok
00:21:815 (9) - I don't really agree about stacking that note. I think it fits kinda. But to be honest i don't know where i should place it ._.
00:44:537 (2,3,4) - That triplet is completely unintuitive, as it's covered by the previous stream's hitbursts. Can you move it somewhere else? That is really hard to do. I tried to make it better but it may be for the worse D: not sure at all about this one
00:48:823 (1,2,3,4) - Those jumps are a bit extreme in that part of the melody imo. Consider reducing a bit the distance between them. I reduced it a little now.
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1. 00:01:132 - 6/4
2. 00:03:368 - 4/4
3. 00:12:312 - 2/4
4. 00:13:057 - 4/4
5. 00:44:361 - 6/4
6. 00:46:597 - 4/4
7. 00:55:541 - 2/4
8. 00:56:286 - 4/4
9. 01:27:590 - 6/4
10. 01:29:826 - 4/4

Deif wrote:

Dadadadaaaaa dadada dadadadadaaaaaaa ♪♫♪♫

[Normal]

OD 4. 5 is a bit high for a Normal. Okay.

00:17:529 (3,4) - According to the long trumpet note, both circles can be converted into a single slider. Changed, and the parts until the 1st Spinner.

Seems like you forgot about whistles in Kiai#2... How about adding some in the points with higher notes? Like 00:29:454 (4) - start and end, or 00:33:927 (1). No, I am pretty sure with my Hitsounding, it's fine.

Good luck with this mapset, Stefan! Thanks \:D

those wrote:

Time signatures:

1. 00:12:312 - 2/4
2. 00:55:541 - 2/4

those wrote:

Time signatures:

1. 00:01:132 - 6/4
2. 00:03:368 - 4/4

TicClick wrote:

those wrote:

Time signatures:

1. 00:12:312 - 2/4
2. 00:55:541 - 2/4

Chewin wrote:

[General]

Set PreviewTime: 12498 in the Hard — Done!
I suggest you to remove letterbox because it cuts the girl's head o.o — k done
I don't understand why the hard diff has different red lines point. You must fix it — I don't know what happened to it. Ok, so I wiped all the unnecessary points and used Leorda's metronome fix (I added +14 to follow other diffs and keep the offset correct (or rather good-approximated; better take it as a basis).

[TicCl!ck's Hard]

00:26:086 (5) - CTRL + R flows better — agreed
01:09:688 (1) - clap — no!
01:26:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - It's confusing considering the previous easy part. — Ok, re-mapped to kickslider stream
The map is good, but all elements are unsnapped lol. You must snap them all. — lol done

Chewin wrote:

[bomber's Insane]

00:10:076 (1) - Overlap better with 00:09:144 (1) changed ... even though i moved 00:09:144 (1)
00:11:753 (2,3,4) - Use the same 2.00x spacing of 00:11:566 (1,2) done
00:51:814 (1,2,3,4) - This could be pretty confusing and bothering to play çç I know what you are talking about, but i asked a lot of friends to test it and no one had problems with this. Let's see what i can do :/
00:57:777 (4) - Unrankable slider because totally overlapped with 00:57:031 (2) o.o lol i think it is perfectly readable and i see this kind of pattern so often in other maps but before we get to this annoying "Don't justify with other maps" discussion i change it :X
01:08:584 (2) - x:328 y:292 to make a triangle jump with 01:08:398 (1,3) k
01:12:683 (7) - New combo fine
This map needs some more work, especially on the inconsistant jumps :\ not to be unpolite but for a map that needs more work, you didn't wrote that much

That's it, Stefan.
Good luck with it >w</

Chewin wrote:

Hi Stefan, mod from my special queue.

[General]

Set PreviewTime: 12498 in the Hard Fixed.
I suggest you to remove letterbox because it cuts the girl's head o.o Changed.
I don't understand why the hard diff has different red lines point. You must fix it Fixed.

[Easy]

00:01:132 (1) - I suggest you to remove the 3rd waypoint because the slider would have a better flow without it k
00:04:113 (1) - ^ and move it to some grid down to blanket better with the previous circle (3) k
00:19:019 (1) - Remove whistles to keep consistency with previous hitsound parts, like: 00:16:038 (1,2,3) k
00:35:417 (1,2,3) - I'd use whistles on each sliders' heads and tails to fit that soft sound in the music k

[Normal]

00:49:578 (6) - New combo accoring to the new rhythm, remove it from 00:50:696 (1) Nah, it fits well.
01:00:385 (2,3) - To keep consistency with 00:57:404 (2,3) remove clap from (2) adding it on (3)'s start removing whisltle instead k

1. It's very obvious that 00:01:132 - is 6/4 and 00:03:368 - is 4/4. The musical motive starts at 00:01:132 - , and again at 00:03:368 - , then 00:06:349 - , and 00:09:330 - . A key thing to notice is the 4 tones (for example, 00:02:622 - sings "re ti so re"), and it happens before each occurrence of the motive. It's musical theory; unless there is something more relevant that I'm clearly missing, the time signatures I have given in my previous post are the correct ones.
2. Because this was neglected, combos in the Jenny diff, for a clear example, has new combo in the wrong places. Assuming you're adding new combo to the "4 tones" pattern I stated above:
   
   1. 00:03:368 (3) - NC.
   2. 00:04:113 (1) - Remove NC.
   3. 00:06:349 (3) - NC.
   4. 00:07:094 (1) - Remove NC.
   5. 00:09:330 (5) - NC.
   6. 00:09:703 (1) - Remove NC.
3. Also, 00:12:312 - would be a 2/4 measure before 00:13:057 - 4/4, but it is unnecessary to add that, nor is there exist that option.

1. 00:25:261 (2,1) - I can only suspect you somehow snapped these incorrectly, since nothing suggests a 1/4 rhythm. If you're simply adding an object 1/4 as a grace note (for a lack of a better explanation), that emptiness should be filled in as you're turning the two objects into a decoration.
   Take 00:25:261 (2,1,1,2,1) - for example. dk kdd d d k is how I would map it if I chose to use 1/4 dk. Otherwise what you have at 00:13:429 (1,2) - is much better.
2. The above comment goes for every instance of 2/4 patterns followed by a 1/1 break. Though I still feel 00:29:734 (2,1,1,1) - is pretty strange and would probably turn it into dk ddk.

1. 00:58:615 (11) - Make consistent with 00:15:386 - .
2. 00:49:578 - Start mapping here.
3. 01:27:683 (1) - After time signature change, you'll find yourself ending spinner at 01:27:683 (1) - .

1. Surprisingly the intro wasn't affected by the time signature difference. But 00:10:076 (1,2,3,4) - feels out of place; especially in an Insane, 4 1/1 objects in a row do not fit.
2. 00:12:498 (1,2,3) - Fan these toward the outside instead of toward the inside; it will look better with regards to (4).
3. 01:08:957 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Is there a particular reason for spacing decrease? Or rather, is there a reason why 01:08:398 (1,2,3) - is a larger spacing?

those wrote:

It's very obvious that 00:01:132 - is 6/4 and 00:03:368 - is 4/4.

those wrote:

If you don't make the first measure 6/4, then every subsequent measure will be half a measure late.

those wrote:

[bomber]

1. Surprisingly the intro wasn't affected by the time signature difference. But 00:10:076 (1,2,3,4) - feels out of place; especially in an Insane, 4 1/1 objects in a row do not fit. took some time to change it but ok. I actually liked that 4x 1/1 ... i suck at explaining so don't think to much about it but i found that it adds ... tension or just supports the following 2xdisance 1/2 "jump" part. Anyways i changed it.
2. 00:12:498 (1,2,3) - Fan these toward the outside instead of toward the inside; it will look better with regards to (4). Thought the same before reading it when i changed the suggestion above
3. 01:08:957 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Is there a particular reason for spacing decrease? Or rather, is there a reason why 01:08:398 (1,2,3) - is a larger spacing? well i just took Chewin's suggestion there ... I didn't really checked the spacing orz. It does look nice though ... i try to change it