I think the only problem is that "are" should be "is". So...strager wrote:
I would only think there are more than one Cop if there are more than one Mafia. (Is that the right verb form? Guh, English, and other languages with weird conjugations.)
Yeah, I was trying to figure out if it was 'is' or 'are.'Derekku Chan wrote:
I think the only problem is that "are" should be "is". So...strager wrote:
I would only think there are more than one Cop if there are more than one Mafia. (Is that the right verb form? Guh, English, and other languages with weird conjugations.)
"I would only think there is more than one Cop if there is more than one Mafia." The reason is that you only have singular nouns thatt you're talking about in the sentence, so you can't use "are".
It's been Twilight since SFG died you trigger-happy maniacstrager wrote:
It's still Day 1, right?
Sarcasm.Echo wrote:
It's been Twilight since SFG diedstrager wrote:
It's still Day 1, right?
Wha? I'm not a Vig! O_oEcho wrote:
you trigger-happy maniac
You jest.adam2046 wrote:
Actually Echo is the jester.
we totally should have lynched himLucidity wrote:
Lol my bad
Lucidity wrote:
Lol my bad
*modkill*Saturos-fangirl wrote:
Lucidity wrote:
Lol my bad
Bah!
One Bah post per person. (lolz you aren't saying anything vital)Saturos-fangirl wrote:
Lucidity wrote:
Lol my bad
Bah!
I looked through the topic (using the search for "Doctor") and nothing about Insane Doctors came up Day 1.Echo wrote:
i'm sure someone mentioned the possibility of insane doctors on day 1, but I can't find the post, does anyone want to own up?
Hmm, possibly. Or adam could be turned from Naive? I dunno. In BM1, I was Paranoid, but if I were healed by the Doctor, I would have turned Sane. (That didn't happen, sadly. =[)0_o wrote:
If Derekku was a miller.. does that mean that there is another cop this game? Seeing as adam was naive a miller wouldn't make a difference otherwise..
No.Echo wrote:
strager did you role claim ever at all?
You thought right.Echo wrote:
Also I don't think I need to mention (but obviously i just have) that no voting *AT ALL* until we've *ALL* agreed
Derekku's death post says he is/was a Miller.Echo wrote:
oh also are any of you two *absolutely sure* what derek's role is?
Derekku's Role PM sent was Twilight Brownie, and was revealed as Miller. Similarly, any role will be revealed as the true role. (Twilight Townie is a theme role, and will be revealed as such.)0_o wrote:
Officially I am a Twilight Townie, but from what my PM says (which is pretty much nothing) I'm basically a vanilla.
mod: when roles are revealed on death, are the exact role names revealed? ie if a Twilight Townie died would you say they were a Twilight Townie or Vanilla Townie?
Our roles have no reason to be a secret any more, do they? It's the final day so I can't think of any reason to keep it hidden, it's not like you are trying to avoid an NK here..strager wrote:
Uhh... Rolefishing?Echo wrote:
strager: me/you role claim?
I'm not sure how claiming would help us, unless someone can provide extra information (e.g. as a Cop).
Ah, I see what you mean.0_o wrote:
Our roles have no reason to be a secret any more, do they? It's the final day so I can't think of any reason to keep it hidden, it's not like you are trying to avoid an NK here..
LS corrects some roles. I didn't receive any correction. Did either of you?Nope
0_o posts his opinions on each player. 0_o, do your opinions on Echo and I still apply?I'm as suspicious of Echo as I was before, but I'm not sure enough that you aren't mafia either. Sure I chose you over Echo easily when we had seven players (we could afford 2 mis-lynches), but am I sure enough to vote for Echo right now? No way.
0_o telling the Mafia what to do.SFG being a jester makes her a third party, which means she was not on our side nor the mafia's. So yes, I suggested we work together with the mafia to remove her, since it would have been in both of our best interests.
LS corrects some roles. I didn't receive any correction. Did either of you?No.
adam says I'm a "yes man." I still don't know what this means. Can you clarify?He could be pointing to the fact that you often agree with what someone else says.
Echo votes 0_o. Does your analysis still apply? Can you explain it please?My analysis would still apply in this situation, but how correct is it? I can't say. No, I won't explain it.
I missed this post. Yes, I did only look into it after you mentioned it. Is there something wrong with that?Agreeing with what other people are saying makes it look like you're not scumhunting yourself, but only bandwagoning, in a sense.
Yep. If you were to replace the word "Twilight" with "Vanilla" it would look exactly like a Vanilla Townie PM.Echo wrote:
0_o: any interesting details attached to your role? You say it works exactly like a vanilla townie role?
Users browsing this forum: 0_o, Echo, strager and 0 guestsHah.
What did you get Day 1?Echo wrote:
I'm a Day Cop, and I investigated strager today, and got a Guilty on him, and an Innocent on myself yesterday.
strager wrote:
What did you get Day 1?Echo wrote:
I'm a Day Cop, and I investigated strager today, and got a Guilty on him, and an Innocent on myself yesterday.
It's Day 3 today...Echo wrote:
strager wrote:
What did you get Day 1?Echo wrote:
I'm a Day Cop, and I investigated strager today, and got a Guilty on him, and an Innocent on myself yesterday.
Oh, so "yesterday" is Day 1 for you. LS didn't wait for you to perform an action?Echo wrote:
I missed Day 2, since you guys went no lynch so quickly.
I think he may have been joking. A few posts back I mentioned this.0_o wrote:
-This post said we should assume adam is sane because he's the only cop left)
You've said yourself before that the town has no reason to lie. Explain?
strager wrote:
"Assume" joke [by Echo] I missed earlier.
Echo suggests we assume adam is Sane. What? I hope this was a joke. Otherwise, it's hypocrisy.
Why would it be hypocrisy?strager wrote:
I think he may have been joking. A few posts back I mentioned this.0_o wrote:
-This post said we should assume adam is sane because he's the only cop left)
You've said yourself before that the town has no reason to lie. Explain?
EDIT:strager wrote:
"Assume" joke [by Echo] I missed earlier.
Echo suggests we assume adam is Sane. What? I hope this was a joke. Otherwise, it's hypocrisy.
The two posts:0_o wrote:
Why would it be hypocrisy?
Also, I'm pretty sure I also said at one point that adam is likely sane, the difference is I didn't know any better.
viewtopic.php?p=168567#p168567Echo wrote:
@everyone in general
when you assume, you make an ass of u and me
so please don't reply *for* anyone else
Echo wrote:
Since he's the only cop left, can we assume he's sane?
Yeah. My focuses on each of those were different.0_o wrote:
EDIT: oh, the assume thing
smiley if I wasn't joking?I assumed you were joking.Echo wrote:
Why do you think I italicised the word "assume" and used the
If you bring up something you said earlier in the the game and use it as a defense for yourself, that kinda cancels it out in my opinion. Why did you need to bring it up at all? We should be able to see this for ourselves, we (at least I) do take the order of role claims into account.0_o wrote:
Honestly, I think my early claim as "Twilight Townie" should clear me altogether (now that we know Derekku was definitely a Twilight Brownie), but that's up to you I guess.
Right here you sound suspiciously like what I was doing in my last games when I was mafia - using *know* as a reason for persuading other people of your innocence.0_o wrote:
Now if you said I was guilty, then I would know you were mafia, and I would probably vote you then and there.
You were really willing to lynch *anyone* as long as adam didn't die?0_o wrote:
I only voted for Lucidity because there were 2 votes on adam, and I wasn't entirely sure that the deadline wasn't 3 minutes from that post, so basically I scrolled up and voted for the last person who got voted for, in an attempt to keep adam around.
Also, I realized now that I made a mistake, it's actually adam that will be lynched in the event of a tie right now (IM SORRY)
That said, I am more leaning towards voting Echo than strager, but I will vote for strager anyway and if Lucidity comes up and decides to change her vote to Echo, then I will too (I will be back to check in ~20 minutes)
I wasn't the first person to bring this up, it's already been mentioned quite a few times throughout the thread (I can get examples on request)Echo wrote:
If you bring up something you said earlier in the the game and use it as a defense for yourself, that kinda cancels it out in my opinion. Why did you need to bring it up at all? We should be able to see this for ourselves, we (at least I) do take the order of role claims into account.0_o wrote:
Honestly, I think my early claim as "Twilight Townie" should clear me altogether (now that we know Derekku was definitely a Twilight Brownie), but that's up to you I guess.
Not really sure what you mean by that, but what I said is true: I'm almost positive I'm not a miller (since Derekku was a Twilight Brownie and I'm not), and if you claimed you got a guilty result on me and innocent on yourself, you would be claiming sane cop. If I am who I claim I am, I would obviously know you were lying, hence mafia.Echo wrote:
Right here you sound suspiciously like what I was doing in my last games when I was mafia - using *know* as a reason for persuading other people of your innocence.0_o wrote:
Now if you said I was guilty, then I would know you were mafia, and I would probably vote you then and there.
Who would you rather lynch: someone without a roleclaim who could go either way, or an almost confirmed cop? I'm not really sure what you are accusing me of other than trying to keep the cop alive =/Echo wrote:
You were really willing to lynch *anyone* as long as adam didn't die?
I think I'm lying.0_o wrote:
Echo: what are your thoughts on your guilty result on strager?
0_o wrote:
Yep. If you were to replace the word "Twilight" with "Vanilla" it would look exactly like a Vanilla Townie PM.
This assumes that I am a sane cop, which is reasonable given that my investigation flipped and that I got innocent on myself.0_o wrote:
Now if you said I was guilty, then I would know you were mafia, and I would probably vote you then and there.
That's not a contradiction.Echo wrote:
Assuming 0_o was innocent, then his role would be a vanilla townie, as per the first statement. In that case, my result will not change or be incorrect/opposite/etc. However, I got a guilty result on 0_o, who also said that if I got a guilty result on him then I would be mafia, which is a contradiction.
?Echo wrote:
The fact that a contradiction came up means that something went wrong. My thought process is correct, which means my assumption is wrong.
That's what?Echo wrote:
Q.E.D.
I'm still interested in that analysis.Echo wrote:
Still, my "analysis" held up - I predicted day 1 that 0_o was likely mafia.
I ignored that.Echo wrote:
Also funny how none of you two used the "if i'm not dead tomorrow i'm mafia" against me
???Echo wrote:
When 0_o said "if you said I was guilty then I'd vote for you" it through me off a little, but after thinking it through my "proof" on the last page is actually logically sound and correct. Assuming I wasn't lying, of course, which I wasn't, but strager wouldn't know that.
I was actually planning on bringing that up, as well as this:Echo wrote:
Also funny how none of you two used the "if i'm not dead tomorrow i'm mafia" against me
Like seriously, WIFOM much?Echo wrote:
Did anyone notice that in every game since the one where I was cop (m2?) I've been mafia?
So you're kidding about kidding?0_o wrote:
wait hold on
we do know that I am NOT mafia, right? my post after strager voted was a joke...
Like CM1?Echo wrote:
or at least let the people who are playing with roles like miller *know* that they're miller?
Yeah, I think so.Echo wrote:
I think millers who don't know they're millers screw up the game.
