Derekku Chan wrote:

So it seems like everyone except for SFG is a guy. Ew what a sausagefest *jumps off the fagboat*

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

1. there will be six alive if we lynch someone. that means that as long as at least two people vote for the same person, i can add my vote to that and protect that person. (6/2 = 3)

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

2. LS said that DAY actions occur immediately. He also specifically said that TWILIGHT actions function like normal twilight - if he gets all of them in early, he'll start Day early, but other actions get precedence over NK. Nice try though.

Derekku Chan wrote:

So it seems like everyone except for SFG is a guy. Ew what a sausagefest *jumps off the fagboat*

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

strager wrote:

Lucidity makes a good point. That role has many holes in it, making it flawed, as it is.

However, SFG could be using that to attract votes to herself if she is still the Jester.

um no i dont expect you guys to lynch your doctor. i suppose i could be estimating wrong, but that happens a lot in this game on any strategy.

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

im NOT a freaking JESTER ANYMORE. lynching me will NOT make me win. it will just make the TOWN less likely to lose.

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

when you really get to the bottom of anything its 100% WIFOM.

Echo wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

im NOT a freaking JESTER ANYMORE. lynching me will NOT make me win. it will just make the TOWN less likely to lose.

Let's lynch her then >:D

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

Echo wrote:

I've got my analysis nearly sorted, but need to bus home before I can post them. eta 1h

ffff Echo you're so cool and organized stop it :<

adam2046 wrote:

I figured something else out.
The thing that makes me uneasy about strager is he's quite often just a yes man.

1. Vote: SFG: Pretty weak reason to vote for someone, and only one was given.
2. Vote: Lucidity: 0_o tries to save adam, who he believes is likely a Cop, from being lynched by the deadline.
3. Vote: strager: Either I'm missing something or 0_o's vote against me doesn't have any real reason. I didn't look too deeply into this, though; probably showed his suspicions of me in a post way earlier. Also, 0_o seems to try and befriend/buddy with Lucidity in 0_o's next post by giving Lucidity his trust in his own vote. o_0
4. Vote: Echo: 0_o goes against his little plan described in his previous vote post. Wha? O_o Pretty wishy-washy (if that's how you use the term).

strager wrote:

Vote: SFG: Pretty weak reason to vote for someone, and only one was given.

Vote: strager: Either I'm missing something or 0_o's vote against me doesn't have any real reason. I didn't look too deeply into this, though; probably showed his suspicions of me in a post way earlier.

Also, 0_o seems to try and befriend/buddy with Lucidity in 0_o's next post by giving Lucidity his trust in his own vote.

Vote: Echo: 0_o goes against his little plan described in his previous vote post. Wha? O_o Pretty wishy-washy (if that's how you use the term).

Echo wrote:

The only people he hasn't voted on are Derek and adam. At the moment I'm reluctant to think that adam is mafia, hence my list is narrowed down to the two I stated.

0_o wrote:

strager wrote:

Vote: SFG: Pretty weak reason to vote for someone, and only one was given.

Actually I think this is a good reason to vote for someone. If she was the twilight cop she would have claimed "Twilight Cop", and not simply "Cop". And guess what? I was right.
Oh yeah, Echo found this suspicious as well.

0_o wrote:

Vote: strager: Either I'm missing something or 0_o's vote against me doesn't have any real reason. I didn't look too deeply into this, though; probably showed his suspicions of me in a post way earlier.

I already explained this...
I WASN'T suspicious of you (as I already said here) , but the game was an hour or two past the deadline, which meant LS could have showed up any minute, which meant if I didn't vote for you then adam would be lynched if the day ended.

0_o wrote:

Also, 0_o seems to try and befriend/buddy with Lucidity in 0_o's next post by giving Lucidity his trust in his own vote.

..what? I don't understand the argument here, I asked him about his thoughts about lynching Echo instead of you. How does this mean I'm trying to "befriend" him?

0_o wrote:

Vote: Echo: 0_o goes against his little plan described in his previous vote post. Wha? O_o Pretty wishy-washy (if that's how you use the term).

My plan was to keep adam from getting lynched. SFG and Derekku unvoted adam. Plan complete. I now had no reason to vote for you, so I unvoted and voted for Echo, who I already said before I wanted to vote for. This is wishy-washy?

0_o wrote:

my mafia partner

0_o wrote:

How come everyone who I have voted for has been cleared by you? If I am the vote-hopping mafia you claim I am, I could very well (and probably would) have voted my mafia partner at some point in order to distance myself from them, a very common and basic mafia tactic. You already know this, since I know for a fact that you have voted your fellow mafia before as well.

strager wrote:

Echo, I'm sure you mean "0_o or Derek" and not "0_o and Derek" for being Mafia?

Echo wrote:

strager wrote:

Echo, I'm sure you mean "0_o or Derek" and not "0_o and Derek" for being Mafia?

I mean what I say. You don't know what I'm thinking, please don't assume you do.

Echo wrote:

You seem mighty eager to clarify my vote but to what end? There was no need to clarify anything. You just jump in, dump a whole heap of posts on 0_o based on my suspicions?

Echo wrote:

Also, your post alone would have been enough to justify a vote from you against 0_o, yet you just posted and left it at that. Again, the point?

strager wrote:

You didn't have to answer so rudely.

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

Yeah, I don't buy that you were a Jester...

0_o and Echo shared the same reasoning as me about your fake claim, yet they're both highly respected by you...If anything strager should be classified as the "weakest" player for believing your claim to be truthful and even defending you on numerous occasions. Anyway, basing weakness on who guessed your role right is a silly measure to begin with. You're not even taking possible aux roles into account.

actually you kinda have a point on strager there. 0_o i dont really trust as much as you say i do...i just think he has a bit of a leg over you since i know how he plays. Echo, I know well enough to be able to differentiate as mafia or not by his actions once it gets to endgame, or at least i have confidence that i will know what side he is on by the time i would need to vote him were he mafia.

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Here's why I think the role is fishy:

*There is no reason for the role to exist. If who we save is based on votes from the players then what's the point in having a middleman to forward every single vote to LS? Why not send our votes to LS in the first place?

good reason #1. if Subi suspects im cheating he can check when he is over at my place and modkill me if i lied to him. he obviously trusts me, but he ALSO left room for you guys to change it if YOU dont trust me to play a game i hold in high respect the way im supposed to. there are places to be underhanded, deceiving, misleading, yes, but im no cheater and actually rather offended that youre trying to classify me as one.

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

*If there are 7 alive you'd need 4-7 votes (4 being highly unlikely) for any kind of majority. This could take a while to be received by you and then forwarded. Indeed, if the Mafia are sharp (or only 1 person) then they'd submit their night kill as soon as Twilight is announced. I'll go look for it later, but LS mentioned earlier in this thread that actions are carried out immediately when they're received. A doctor role that works like this would be useless.

1. there will be six alive if we lynch someone. that means that as long as at least two people vote for the same person, i can add my vote to that and protect that person. (6/2 = 3)
2. LS said that DAY actions occur immediately. He also specifically said that TWILIGHT actions function like normal twilight - if he gets all of them in early, he'll start Day early, but other actions get precedence over NK. Nice try though.

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

*The existence of this role makes you innocent. The need for it to be public doesn't make sense to me. Why would LS give us a publicly innocent player?

1. I'm exactly as safe as any other role claim here is. you can choose to believe me or not and the only way for you guys to know who everyone voted to protect is to ask in-thread, in which case if i were mafia i could read it and use it anyways.
2. I did NOT make up this role, im just acting on it, so if you have complaints about it bring them to Subi kthnxbai

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

*There exists the possibility that you're a 3rd party/mafia that needs a majority of our votes to kill someone. This would be a powerful twist in that we'll kill the player that we think is most valuable.

ok cool, theres a lot of possibilities out there and im sure this is one of them. its also possible that im Spartacus and now that ive claimed it i can magically acquire the roles of Doctor, Cop, Ninja, and Traitor and do whatever the heck i feel like. How much do you want to think about possibility?
Oh hey heres a good one! what if im some new kind of role that mindwipes everyone that sends a pm to me and makes them my minions~ i could even minionize the MAFIA that way and instantly win. thatd be cool. Thats a possibility.
Actually i think this falls under the realm of "giving the GM ideas" so ill stop now cus i think ive made my point.

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

I've had a look at the supposed "confirmation" of SFG's role by LS and I don't think it's a confirmation at all. The post is here. She acknowledges that forwarding is safe. She says that we can have a vote on it and we can change to something else if we want. There's no way that she'd publicly acknowledge SFG's role though. Those posts are too general to be considered a confirmation anyway. SFG is back on my suspect list ~

congratulations, you have figured out that Subi is a good enough GM that he wont screw the game up if people start fishing for confirmations. again, i think its kind of insulting to doubt the ability of your GM but hey, you have the freedom to flame up a storm and all we'll do is edit/delete/ban things that get overly out of hand. *sarcastic round of applause*

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

As I mentioned earlier, if we do have a Jester in the game I think we should just ignore it. Would everyone be OK with that?

If SFG turns out to be a Jester I think it would even benefit the town to vote her off on Day 1 as all a jester does is cause confusion and delay Mafia convictions ~_~ Sharing a win is still a win!

im NOT a freaking JESTER ANYMORE. lynching me will NOT make me win. it will just make the TOWN less likely to lose.

strager wrote:

You're trying to help her in her vote. "Why don't you (we) vote for Echo instead?" basically. If this was your intention, your previous post about voting for Echo if Lucidity did was an excuse for having Echo lynched ("I warned Lucidity and she knew the dangers blah blah").

Or, of course, you're doing as you say and believe protecting adam is more important than killing the Mafia. (I do understand that protecting adam is of lesser risk.)

0_o wrote:

my mafia partner

I thought it had been discussed enough that two Mafia is verrry unlikely.

Are you admitting you have a partner? If so, who is it? =]

Derekku wrote:

Twilight 1? Great.. mafia gets a free kill ._.;

LadySuburu wrote:

Anyone modkilled's role will instantly change to Neutral Survivor and will lose regardless. The modkilled role is not the origional role, and you will not find out the origional role until game end.

Lucidity wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

Anyone modkilled's role will instantly change to Neutral Survivor and will lose regardless. The modkilled role is not the origional role, and you will not find out the origional role until game end.

Could you please reconsider? We gain no information from Day 1 like we would have if we had lynched someone :/ Why does a modkill hide the identity, but not a normal kill? ;o

Hope you feel better soon SFG. Also, lol internets.

LadySuburu wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

Anyone modkilled's role will instantly change to Neutral Survivor and will lose regardless. The modkilled role is not the origional role, and you will not find out the origional role until game end.

Could you please reconsider? We gain no information from Day 1 like we would have if we had lynched someone :/ Why does a modkill hide the identity, but not a normal kill? ;o

Hope you feel better soon SFG. Also, lol internets.

I'll say this much: She was not mafia, so no mafia have been killed.

0_o wrote:

strager wrote:

You're trying to help her in her vote. "Why don't you (we) vote for Echo instead?" basically. If this was your intention, your previous post about voting for Echo if Lucidity did was an excuse for having Echo lynched ("I warned Lucidity and she knew the dangers blah blah").

[blah blah stuff I know blah]
Read the post, I was requesting her thoughts on an Echo lynch, not requesting that she lynch Echo.

0_o wrote:

Or, of course, you're doing as you say and believe protecting adam is more important than killing the Mafia. (I do understand that protecting adam is of lesser risk.)

I'm not sure you aren't mafia, but at the time I had to choose between one of you, and you were the obvious choice (no offense )

0_o wrote:

0_o wrote:

my mafia partner

I thought it had been discussed enough that two Mafia is verrry unlikely.

[...]
Also, I looked it up on MafiaScum, and I found out that there actually are newbie games with 7 people, 2 mafia. So it is possible.

0_o wrote:

Gotta say though awesome role claim SFG, I had no idea you could think up something like that

Lucidity wrote:

Bleh, I guess that's better than nothing, but why should we suffer because she committed suicide :<

Derekku Chan wrote:

I think that the town should still get a lynch for today. We would have gotten one had there not been extensions, but now townie is down one player and the mafia will get an even bigger advantage with their free kill tonight. It might not matter as much if SFG actually does hold a third-party role, but whatever. I'm just stating my opinion that most of us probably agree with =/

Lucidity wrote:

It depends on the roles still in play though...If it's 3-2 and the Mafia fail to kill someone that night the town could still win...

Echo wrote:

seeing as adam's "Day Cop", there ought to be a "Night (Twilight)" Cop out there somewhere

Rules wrote:

13. A modkill will end the Day.

Derekku Chan wrote:

strager wrote:

Derekku, read the rules:

Uh, you're one to talk Mr. tl;dring-the WWG-rules

Lucidity wrote:

Also, for some reason when I post outside of "Forum Games/Random" the site says I'm logged out and doesn't allow me to post. I then have to login again, but as soon as I click submit it says I'm logged out again.

Echo wrote:

@strager: i changed my mind

strager wrote:

I would only think there are more than one Cop if there are more than one Mafia. (Is that the right verb form? Guh, English, and other languages with weird conjugations.)

Derekku Chan wrote:

strager wrote:

I would only think there are more than one Cop if there are more than one Mafia. (Is that the right verb form? Guh, English, and other languages with weird conjugations.)

I think the only problem is that "are" should be "is". So...

"I would only think there is more than one Cop if there is more than one Mafia." The reason is that you only have singular nouns thatt you're talking about in the sentence, so you can't use "are".

strager wrote:

It's still Day 1, right?

Echo wrote:

strager wrote:

It's still Day 1, right?

It's been Twilight since SFG died

Echo wrote:

you trigger-happy maniac

adam2046 wrote:

Actually Echo is the jester.

Lucidity wrote:

Lol my bad

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

Lol my bad

we totally should have lynched him

Bah!

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

Lol my bad

we totally should have lynched him

Bah!

Echo wrote:

i'm sure someone mentioned the possibility of insane doctors on day 1, but I can't find the post, does anyone want to own up?

0_o wrote:

If Derekku was a miller.. does that mean that there is another cop this game? Seeing as adam was naive a miller wouldn't make a difference otherwise..

Echo wrote:

strager did you role claim ever at all?

Echo wrote:

Also I don't think I need to mention (but obviously i just have) that no voting *AT ALL* until we've *ALL* agreed

Echo wrote:

oh also are any of you two *absolutely sure* what derek's role is?

0_o wrote:

Officially I am a Twilight Townie, but from what my PM says (which is pretty much nothing) I'm basically a vanilla.

mod: when roles are revealed on death, are the exact role names revealed? ie if a Twilight Townie died would you say they were a Twilight Townie or Vanilla Townie?

strager wrote:

Echo wrote:

strager: me/you role claim?

Uhh... Rolefishing?

I'm not sure how claiming would help us, unless someone can provide extra information (e.g. as a Cop).

0_o wrote:

Our roles have no reason to be a secret any more, do they? It's the final day so I can't think of any reason to keep it hidden, it's not like you are trying to avoid an NK here..

LS corrects some roles. I didn't receive any correction. Did either of you?

0_o posts his opinions on each player. 0_o, do your opinions on Echo and I still apply?

0_o telling the Mafia what to do.

LS corrects some roles. I didn't receive any correction. Did either of you?

adam says I'm a "yes man." I still don't know what this means. Can you clarify?

Echo votes 0_o. Does your analysis still apply? Can you explain it please?

I missed this post. Yes, I did only look into it after you mentioned it. Is there something wrong with that?

Echo wrote:

0_o: any interesting details attached to your role? You say it works exactly like a vanilla townie role?

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Echo wrote:

I'm a Day Cop, and I investigated strager today, and got a Guilty on him, and an Innocent on myself yesterday.

strager wrote:

Echo wrote:

I'm a Day Cop, and I investigated strager today, and got a Guilty on him, and an Innocent on myself yesterday.

What did you get Day 1?