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Newbie Mafia - 2of4 [Town Win!]

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0_o
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0_o
Well as far as I'm concerned, if you make a spelling error then fixing it isn't a big deal. If it's a bigger issue, then by editing you take the risk that no one catches you and calls you out on it.

The only thing I would have a problem with editing out is votes. Though if you want to discuss this further we should probably take it to the General Discussion thread. There isn't anything in the rules about it atm, so it probably IS something we should come to a consensus on.
Rantai
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Rantai

Wojjan wrote:

Rantai how can you admit to bmin acting scummmy and then vote me because I think they're scummy
I believe bmin was acting weirdly but not overly scummy per se.

What sticks out the most (outside gut) is your line;

... but I almost wanna vote him just to see if he's scum so I can make a case when this happens again

almost. still on bmin
It was like a really awkward "I think he's scummy but not going to vote him" kind of flick off (to appear to agree while not voting for their partner). Yeah you were tunneled on bmin, but that could also add to the flick off. I could be over reading it but that's all I have.
NoHitter
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NoHitter

Wojjan wrote:

did you really need five votes instead of four on ekaru? I was just as strong on my jinxy read, from the point of my last post even stronger than ekaru because, you know, four votes on a day one lynch. Something could be up with that. I didn't feel like going out of my way from my vote on bmin to a bandwagon I was less sure of that was going to go through anyway
You can see it that way, but you can also see it as fence sitting. Not voting for someone when he/she's going to get lynched offers many excuses as to why you didn't vote him/her depending on the situation.

For example, if the person lynched was town, the excuse could be: "I was suspicious, but my gut told me otherwise. That's why I didn't vote."
Whereas if the person lynched was scum, the excuse could be: "Oh he/she was going to get lynched anyway, but I did point out that he/she was suspicious."

So your excuse as to why you didn't vote Ekaru seems scummy.

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But that doesn't discount JInxyjem though.
JInxy only said that he wasn't going to vote for Ekaru in the meantime since there was still time and it would mean placing Ekaru at L-1.

I understand JInxy's reason to not place Ekaru at L-1 with three days left.
Placing someone at L-1 without being 100% sure is generally dangerous.
(If Ekaru had been a town power role, mafia could have quickhammered thus making us lose an important role.
Now that we know Ekaru was scum, he could have self-hammered too - ending the discussion prematurely.)

But, JInxyjem, were you/when were you planning to actually vote for Ekaru.
You said that only reason why you didn't vote for him was because there was three days left.
Now why didn't you vote for him when we had only one day left before the deadline?
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
Well on the other hand he was mafia rolecop don't you think that if I were his partner I would've done a lot more than "This is how townekaru's meta is too but meh" to get him off the hook
Sync
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Sync
or you could have distanced yourself from him for this very reason
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
no man persian or greek lets town lynch their rolecop like that
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
I mean especially with Ekaru's townplay in themeless and the fact that the only sound argument I heard against ekaru was that he was digging his own hole in his replies. The only actual scummy thing people were building off was a misplaced randavote
Sync
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Sync
you're fucked man oh shit you're going to get lynched oh shit you're going to lose it for mafia what are you going to do now

seriously though based off every single game I've ever played it always seems like the people who I don't think are mafia are mafia



** POINTING AT DRAKARI/BACKFIRE **


WHAT DO YOU TWO HAVE TO SAY FOR YOURSELF

edit: totally thought I was going to die N1
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
you alwyas think that
prod those two bitches
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
also if they don't respond or only respond with an "i'm here" and don't give thoughts on the game replace them
Jinxy
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Joined February 2009
Jinxy

NoHItter wrote:

But, JInxyjem, were you/when were you planning to actually vote for Ekaru.
You said that only reason why you didn't vote for him was because there was three days left.
Now why didn't you vote for him when we had only one day left before the deadline?
Mostly because I had work piled on after my post on the not-voting and stuff got busier, and Ekaru and Sync's long argument didn't quite help either when I only have little time between lessons to read and I had to skim quite a lot.


Wojjan wrote:

Well on the other hand he was mafia rolecop don't you think that if I were his partner I would've done a lot more than "This is how townekaru's meta is too but meh" to get him off the hook

Wojjan wrote:

no man persian or greek lets town lynch their rolecop like that
This argument to me is kind of weak, mostly because no one else, persian nor greek, stood against Ekaru's lynch. Most wanted his lynch, I was still hesitant during my last D1 post for the previously said reason to avoid a quickhammer, and BF wasn't even there for most of Day 1. The vaguest objection to the lynch would probably be you, actually.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
It's all I got. I didn't vote him because I voted for you who I am more sure of.
Backfire
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Joined February 2010
Backfire
Requesting replace.
Jinxy
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Joined February 2009
Jinxy

Wojjan wrote:

It's all I got. I didn't vote him because I voted for you who I am more sure of.
Well, if that's the case, then I don't really have much to say. To me it's either you or Backfire who's the last mafia, and your focus on me and explanations on not voting for Ekaru D1 just don't sit right with me and make me suspect you more than Backfire.

Vote: Wojjan
0_o
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Topic Starter
0_o
Drakari has been prodded, finding a replacement for Backfire.
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
just lynch Jinxy when you lynch me and no hurt feelings
NoHitter
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NoHitter

JInxyjem wrote:

Wojjan wrote:

Well on the other hand he was mafia rolecop don't you think that if I were his partner I would've done a lot more than "This is how townekaru's meta is too but meh" to get him off the hook

Wojjan wrote:

no man persian or greek lets town lynch their rolecop like that
This argument to me is kind of weak, mostly because no one else, persian nor greek, stood against Ekaru's lynch. Most wanted his lynch, I was still hesitant during my last D1 post for the previously said reason to avoid a quickhammer, and BF wasn't even there for most of Day 1. The vaguest objection to the lynch would probably be you, actually.
Actually, this statement hits the mark.
The only time someone opposed the lynch even the slightest was when Wojjan said that Ekaru's meta still fit the townie meta.
In addition to fence setting, I think Wojjan is the most suspicious.
Vote: Wojjan

Wojjan is at L-1.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
I claim vanilla town, you're not lynching any PRs. Go town
0_o
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Topic Starter
0_o
Ivalset replaces JInxyjem Backfire

Vote Count
Wojjan (3) - Rantai, JInxyjem, NoHItter
JInxyjem (2) - Wojjan, Sync

Not Voting - Ivalset, Drakari

1 day + 21 hours remaining.
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Ivalset
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Ivalset
Well, read through everything except most of the text walls involving Ekaru killing himself. I like a bmin/JInxy lynch more than a Wojjan lynch but those two seem far and away the most suspicious.

Vote: JInxyjem
Wojjan
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Wojjan

0_o wrote:

Ivalset replaces JInxyjem
you're a good sport to selfvote, ival
Jinxy
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Jinxy

0_o wrote:

Ivalset replaces JInxyjem
...
0_o
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0_o
YOU SAW NOTHING
Sync
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Sync
I lol'd

aaaa I don't want to hammer wojjan because I'm not sureeeeee
Drakari_old
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Drakari_old
I can't believe I'm still not used to hitting the quick reply button over the add reply button. I also still don't understand why they are labled so ambiguously.

Anyways, long post short I want to break the tie and am leaning toward Wojjan over JInxy, so I'm going to; sorry if it's a terrible strategy I'm not used to lynching immediately on majority so I'm unsure how to strategically use it.

Vote: Wojjan
Ivalset
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Ivalset

Wojjan wrote:

0_o wrote:

Ivalset replaces JInxyjem
you're a good sport to selfvote, ival
I honestly got scared to death when I read that.
Sync
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Sync

Drakari wrote:

I can't believe I'm still not used to hitting the quick reply button over the add reply button. I also still don't understand why they are labled so ambiguously.

Anyways, long post short I want to break the tie and am leaning toward Wojjan over JInxy, so I'm going to; sorry if it's a terrible strategy I'm not used to lynching immediately on majority so I'm unsure how to strategically use it.

Vote: Wojjan
im voting for you for hammering without discussion if wojjan flips town

god dammit
0_o
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0_o
After much deliberation, Drakari stood up, produced an abnormally large axe out of God knows where, and with an impressively clean slice, removed Wojjan's head from his body.

Unfortunately,

Wojjan - Townie - Lynched Day 2

It is now Night 2

You have 24 hours.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
assholes
0_o
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0_o
Sync - Townie - Nightkilled N2

It is now Day 3

5 7 days from this post.

With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch
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Sync
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Sync

Wojjan wrote:

assholes

go town
Drakari_old
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Drakari_old
I think I'm going to die now. Kinda in total abject failure mode here.
Ivalset
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5 days, damn that's a long time.

In any case, I'm still quite interested in a JInxy lynch, so I'll hold on to that.

vote: JInxyjem
Rantai
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Rantai
Well I was wrong about Wojjan leaving just bmin/Jinxy and Drakari left on my list.

Kind of tossing it up I guess. Unfortunately there aren't many tells going on to work with.
Rantai
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Rantai
Gah I hate to do this but requesting replacement

Uni took a weird turn.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
After some rereading, at this moment, I'm most suspicious of Drakari.
The fact that Sync died last night seems to point out that he's scum.
Although this could be WIFOM, his defeatist attitude at the start of the day seem to attest to this too.
I'm not 100% sure though, so I'm not voting yet.

Regarding JInxy, I'm not entirely sure.
IMO Drakari is more scummy than JInxy now.
JInxy was called out for not voting Ekaru, but I think Drakari could have voted Ekaru when he realized Ekaru was going to get lynched anyway.
0_o
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0_o
Looking for a Rantai replacement. I'll send some PMs when I get home if no one steps up by then.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
I'll replace it's not like I had valuable info
0_o
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0_o
I'm not sure how I feel about people replacing into a game they already died in, but I'll consider it if I can't find anyone else.
Jinxy
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Jinxy
Ok so yeah back from schoolwork avalanche and events and I also did revolver live firing last tuesday

Right now, I'm looking at this here post and I'm not really sure what to make out of it and whether Drakari is suspicious because of it.

Mafia would have chose a Sync kill since he practically started the Ekaru lynch and was pretty town, and Sync's last post might have given him more reason and have us think Drakari did it.

However, LS being the N1 kill over people on Ekaru's wagon kinda pops out at me. Rantai has noticed it too, and admitted that he would be the kind of guy to try for that kill too.

Rantai wrote:

Heh. My speculation is who would shoot LS?

Wojjan seems to be the only one who would fit that bill. I do too actually, take that as you will. Kind of weak reasoning I know but add that to the fact Wojjan never voted Ekaru I have a strong feeling that Wojjan is the one.

So yeah that's all I have noticed in the past days. Nothing suspicious to me for D3 for now since it's moving at the speed of slow
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