Sakura Hana wrote:

Go into a mutli room, find a difficulty called Cake which is 5 stars, i know i can play many Insanes but not the super effing Hard ones, both are usually 5 stars, how will i know if it's too hard for me or not?

Better yet, i go into a multi room find a diff called "Taiko" which is 5 stars, how can i know if it's an oni or a muzukashii?

YodaSnipe wrote:

Sakura Hana wrote:

Go into a mutli room, find a difficulty called Cake which is 5 stars, i know i can play many Insanes but not the super effing Hard ones, both are usually 5 stars, how will i know if it's too hard for me or not?

Better yet, i go into a multi room find a diff called "Taiko" which is 5 stars, how can i know if it's an oni or a muzukashii?

ummm play the damn map? if you fail, doesn't matter, if you pass, good job it's not too hard for you.

ztrot wrote:

why bother then? there are way worse things we could be discussing than diff names

Sakura Hana wrote:

I doubt mappers will ever be able to manually set the star rating by themselves.

YodaSnipe wrote:

The point is, she was in multi. so it doesn't really matter at all. Unless she's one of those idiots who won't play maps too hard for her. /lame

Sakura Hana wrote:

Although i was just making a suposition, that never happened to me and i do enjoy challenges, the suposition was mostly to tell them that diff names do matter during multiplayer games.

Sakura Hana wrote:

Although i was just making a suposition, that never happened to me and i do enjoy challenges, the suposition was mostly to tell them that diff names do matter during multiplayer games.

Guest difficulties must always name their mapper or any characteristic name they use. This is to avoid confusion in mapsets in regards to map accountability.

Maddy wrote:

Seriously, this is dumb. Names were always a very nice freedom of "art" to me, and they should remain like this.

Sakura Hana wrote:

Since when did this stop being a game?

Odaril wrote:

How does stating the name of a mapper defeat the purpose of star rating I don't get it

Sakura Hana wrote:

Maddy wrote:

Seriously, this is dumb. Names were always a very nice freedom of "art" to me, and they should remain like this.

Since when did this stop being a game?

Odaril wrote:

That way you people can keep your custom funny difficulty names but this solves the issues caused by map accountability.

whymeman wrote:

This is about preventing confusion from improper naming of difficulties that have no correlation to each other. Left shouldn't mean right, and down shouldn't me up.

ziin wrote:

This can and will be caught via modding. Any rule we make will be too vague and thus be a poor rule.

ziin wrote:

Odaril wrote:

That way you people can keep your custom funny difficulty names but this solves the issues caused by map accountability.

what issue with map accountability? The mapper is clearly noted in the map description or the difficulty name.

senaya wrote:

why do guest diffs have to state the guest mapper's name?

Sakura Hana wrote:

Because i totally haven't seen maps with diff names Easy, Normal, Hard, Coffee before, and bubbled twice to boot

Odaril wrote:

Not all the time. But if either exists (either in the diff name, either in the main post), I'm fine with it.

senaya wrote:

so why do guest diffs have to state the guest mapper's name? it is guest mapper's right to call it the way he wants it to be called as long as it's not breaking the other rules because he is the one who mapped it. why force them to do something that won't change anything for players?

whymeman wrote:

It's to give credit towards those that pitched in to help with the map set. Even that kind of difficulty labeling can make sense if done right like "[senaya's Extreme]" or something like that for example.

Sakura Hana wrote:

@YodaSnipe: Hmm excuse me? that's not relevant to the topic at hand, but if you want an answer sb/skin/bg form part of the mapper's map, diff names like cake, coffee and potato make no sense to me tho, but since that's what the community wants...

Natteke wrote:

Now you look more like a dictator, Sakura inb4 post deleted

A guest mapper's name must appear either in the difficulty name, either in the first post. This is meant to give credit to mappers for their work. Difficulties meant to be played in a special game mode must clearly state in their name what mode they are made for.

A guest mapper's name must appear either in the difficulty name, either in the first post. Any difficulty name they can be recognized with is fine. This is meant to give credit to mappers for their work. Difficulties meant to be played in a special game mode must clearly state in their name what mode they are made for.

Natteke wrote:

How you're supposed to know? Freaking play them, if you weren't going to play, why did you DL the map?

ziin wrote:

To be fair, I have no idea how hard [insane] is on 90% of the maps I play unless I look at the star rating, the mapper, and the scores. And even then it's a ballpark guess. And all of these things are unavailable to me in multiplayer.

Odaril wrote:

A guest mapper's name must appear either in the difficulty name, either in the first post. Any difficulty name they can be recognized with is fine. This is meant to give credit to mappers for their work. Difficulties meant to be played in a special game mode must clearly state in their name what mode they are made for.

ztrot wrote:

I want to chainsaw this thread.

L_P wrote:

let mappers and creators decide to do anything , anything stupid
when most players didnt complain about it, we dont need to waste our time to create such rules

whymeman wrote:

Also, when something becomes a problem enough to be suggested a fix by a rule, then the problem is noticeable. Just saying "leave it, it's not going to hurt anyone" is just lazy and a inconsiderate way of thinking without attempting to think why and how it is an issue. If you put yourself before others in any of the rule topics for your own needs, your logic would risk breaking easily or be ignored. The rule topics affects everyone, not just yourself.

Weezy wrote:

Guessing something like this would be a good fix for anime related diff names: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/24135

FAQ wrote:

Difficulty: While the other fields should be identical between all maps in a set, the Difficulty field is filled differently for each map, to indicate which ones are harder than others. You can select one of the default names, or create your own name. While it's good to be creative, try to make it very clear which one is harder than others -- Ambiguous difficulty names can annoy players. This would also be the field where you indicate a guest mapper, if this is their difficulty (e.g. "Larto's Hard").

Odaril wrote:

A guest mapper's name must appear either in the difficulty name, either in the first post. Any difficulty name they can be recognized with is fine. This is meant to give credit to mappers for their work. Difficulties meant to be played in a special game mode must clearly state in their name what mode they are made for.

ztrot wrote:

it already is a guideline tho, it is noted not to use something out of the way but if I make something that is like this ember, flame, blaze, inferno common sense tells me anyone with common sense could make that out.

Odaril wrote:

A guest mapper's name must appear either in the difficulty name, either in the first post. Any difficulty name they can be recognized with is fine. This is meant to give credit to mappers for their work. Difficulties meant to be played in a special game mode must clearly state in their name what mode they are made for.

Sakura Hana wrote:

For instance could someone tell me what these diffs are? and how am i supposed to know without checking creator's words, 60% of the diff names is just the mapper's name+gatari, no difficulty level, nor anything at all

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

Anyway, cases like this are anyway good as naming, as Ritsu is a drummer (and that obviously call "Taiko").
To with other similiar cases.

ztrot wrote:

like I said this wouldn't be a rule a guideline at best unless you disable the namechange in the editor it's self. That is relevant

ziin wrote:

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

Anyway, cases like this are anyway good as naming, as Ritsu is a drummer (and that obviously call "Taiko").
To with other similiar cases.

There's nothing preventing osu from following the drums either. Anyone not familiar with Ritsu (plenty of folks) would not know she's a drummer, and even so, she plays a drumset, not a taiko drum.

-A t H e N a- wrote:

I think the point is that it will make sense to the group of people who know who a certain character is, and since the beatmap is about a certain anime or whatever that said character is from, using that character's name would be fine

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

You can still give credit in the Op, as written in the last version proposed.

Sakura Hana wrote:

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

You can still give credit in the Op, as written in the last version proposed.

Because everyone in this community always checks creator's words before playing a map right?

A guest mapper's name must appear either in the difficulty name or in the first post. Any difficulty name the mapper can be recognized with is fine. This is meant to give credit to mappers for their work. Difficulties meant to be played in a special game mode must clearly state in their name what mode they are made for.

A guest mapper's name must be credited either in the difficulty name or in the first post of the map thread. Any difficulty name the mapper can be recognized by is fine. In addition, difficulties meant to be played in a special game mode must clearly state in their name what mode they are made for.