CheeseWarlock wrote:

Informal BAT modding time 'cause it's Pokemon RBY music~

First, let's tackle the skinning. The XiStyle stuff makes no sense here. Even if you like it, it doesn't really fit at all. There's no reason to force the skin OR put some of the graphics in the folder. Especially the hitcircleoverlay, it looks terrible over the Pokeballs. Steal the one from Elite Beat Osu! or something. In conclusion: let the user have their skin of choice. FOR FREEDOM AND GLORY!

Your skinning is pretty good, though. The Clefairy doesn't really work well, I find: it doesn't stand out enough and Clefairy doesn't exactly scream "reverse". And the Oddish spins fully twice, then starts going around again before jerking back to an upright position, and it does all that 3 times every second. Smooth out the transition; make each frame rotated 36 degrees from the last. And you could choose a new Pokemon too; a Raichu/Pikachu/Voltorb sliderball and a Magnemite reversearrow would go well with Vermilion city's Lt. Surge and his electric-types.

As for the mapping, it lacks spice. Especially on the easier difficulties: the mapping is so straightforward that it could be pretty much any 126 BPM song. And the harder difficulties lack challenge; the only places Champion ever messes me up are spots like 00:08:15 (1,2,3,4,5) - where the mapping doesn't even really fit the music. I agree that Champion's hits are spaced too close together. You might want to increase the slider velocity in your harder difficulties- it'll bump up the auto-spacing even if you don't change the Distance Spacing Multiplier.

The offset feels better to me at 54.

Last note: Your new combos are pretty random a lot of the time. If you have any formal musical training, you should try to align it to phrases in the music. Or if that doesn't make sense to you: In this song, every fourth beat (every beat that has the different-sounding metronome tick) is a place where you CAN (not SHOULD or MUST) put a new combo.

Included is a small example of where to place new combos, and some ideas for when to place beats to keep easier difficulties fun. (And it's spaced out more, too, but yours doesn't have to be.)

BananasGoMoo wrote:

also about the skin, i might do more pokemon music so i want a skin i can use for multiple pokemon songs. so i don't want to do specifically electric, or something.

strager wrote:

BananasGoMoo wrote:

also about the skin, i might do more pokemon music so i want a skin i can use for multiple pokemon songs. so i don't want to do specifically electric, or something.

Download the Pokemon skin, and install it (put it in osu!/Skins). In your map, go to Song Setup. In the Storyboarding tab set Pokemon as the preferred skin. Then delete the skin stuff in your folder.

That's assuming you want to use that Pokemon skin.

I'm not sure if you need permission to do that. Probably not, though, as you're not adding it to your map; you're "linking" it.

EBAfan101 wrote:

You might wanna change the difficulty "Trainer"

Make it a bit easier, it seems a bit like Normal, and it should be easy.

strager wrote:

EBAfan101 wrote:

You might wanna change the difficulty "Trainer"

Make it a bit easier, it seems a bit like Normal, and it should be easy.

Youngster -> Trainer -> Elite 4 -> Champion

Easy -> Normal -> Hard -> Insane

Trainer = Normal

Right?

I haven't looked at it but you may wanna move this to Pending.

DJPop wrote:

~Youngster~
Very similar to Trainer.

~Trainer~
Fine.

~Elite 4~
Fine.

~Champion~
00:37:43 (5) - hard to see imo.
01:00:76 (1) - move starting point to 01:01:006


+Star

strager wrote:

Lots of modding in IRC, trying to get spacing down perfect. Weee~

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Livin' in the California sun.~ On the road of looking good and to become another gym map to overcome.

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

[Youngster]:
00:03:86 (4) - Clap?
00:07:67 (1) - Clap?
00:08:62 (3) - Clap?
00:09:57 (5) - Clap?
00:10:53 (1) - Clap on all slider?
00:13:86 (2) - Clap?
00:16:72 (1) - Clap?
00:17:67 (3) - Clap?
00:18:62 (5) - Clap? I hope you see a pattern.
00:34:33 (3) - Clap?

[Trainer]:
00:21:95 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:22:91 (2) - New combo.

[Elite 4]:
00:07:19 (x) - Add beat?
00:38:14 (1,2,3,4) - Sloppy. ):

[Champion]:
00:03:86 (2) - Start of slider gets Clap?
00:58:86 (4) - Move 1 right on Grid Level 3.

Most of the hitsounds sound random or inconsistent. You might need to check up on that.

Wow, this beatmap has gone through a lot. Excellent work.

Lokamp wrote:

A new mod for a new mode! (Another bad joke, Lokamp...)

Youngster
[00:03:270] (3, 4) in order: whistle-clap!
[00:06:620] (3, 4) two finish here
[00:10:535] (7) with clap, whistle all over the slider
[00:11:907] (2, 3, 5, 1, 2, 3, 1) here's a bit difficult to explain: remove the clap from 2nd yellow, claps on 3rd yellow and orange and on 1st orange; whistle on 5th yellow, finish on 1st blue (remove claps from 2nd orange!)
[00:23:413] (1) whistle here
[00:25:699] (1, 2) finish or claps: choose!
[00:40:427] (2, 3, 4) three claps
[00:42:141] (5, 6, 7, 8) for the last four beats (add another one before the spinner) , whistle-finish-whistle-clap!

0_o wrote:

Wow, this has gotten SO much better since the last time I checked...

just a few things

Skin
The Clefairy is pretty hard to see, especially on the white hitcircles.

Trainer
It seems like for this whole difficulty the player is just going in circles Also, most of the notes tend be be around the top left. Try spreading your notes around the map a bit more, and while you're at it try to implement some patterns that don't make me dizzy

Elite Four
00:06:72 (5,6) - Spacing hiccup here

Champion
01:07:67 (1) - I think a finish is more appropriate here

Awesome job, have a star

0_o wrote:

Ah. Full Upload

Youngster
00:10:53 (1) - Further away
00:21:48 (1) - I don't really like the spinner here, it's pretty short for an Easy difficulty and the next beat comes very quickly after it
00:27:67 (1,2) - Move New Combo from 1 to 2
00:43:14 (8) - Doesn't really feel right, I'd just put this on a white tick like everything else (remember to move the spinner afterwads)

Don't kudosu this, as it should have been included in my last post ^_^

strager wrote:

EBAfan101 wrote:

You might wanna change the difficulty "Trainer"

Make it a bit easier, it seems a bit like Normal, and it should be easy.

Youngster -> Trainer -> Elite 4 -> Champion

Easy -> Normal -> Hard -> Insane

Trainer = Normal

Right?

I haven't looked at it but you may wanna move this to Pending.

EBAfan101 wrote:

strager wrote:

EBAfan101 wrote:

You might wanna change the difficulty "Trainer"

Make it a bit easier, it seems a bit like Normal, and it should be easy.

Youngster -> Trainer -> Elite 4 -> Champion

Easy -> Normal -> Hard -> Insane

Trainer = Normal

Right?

I haven't looked at it but you may wanna move this to Pending.

Whoops I meant youngster -_^

animask wrote:

<3 Spinning Oddish lol
[Youngster]
Nice hitsounds in the beginning.
00:21:95 (7) - Add a Clap here?
00:35:29 (2) - Make this a whistle instead of a clap
00:43:14 (8) - This doesn't seem to fit in

[Trainer]
00:21:95 (8) - Make the beginning of this a Finish hitsound instead

[Elite 4]
00:08:14 (2) - Clap here
00:08:38 (4) - ^
00:08:62 (6) - ^
00:09:57 (3) - Whistle?
00:11:48 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - Add some hitsounds around here

[Champion]
00:00:05 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Add some hitsounds around here
00:04:81 (4) - Add a Clap here
00:25:53 (1,2,3) - Move down 1 on level 3 grid
00:54:81 (3,4) - Move to the right 1 on level 3 grid
00:56:00 (1,2,3) - Move so 1 is on the fading 4 that I said to move

I like the custom skin.
You need to keep a pattern with your hitsounds.
You did really well for your first beatmap though.
The Note placement feels messy...try making patterns with your note placement.

PandaCath wrote:

Nothing wrong! Great, simple map~

Star~

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Youngster
I did not find anything wrong here

Trainer:
00:06:72 (5,6,7) - might want to make this a straight line
00:17:43 (1,2,3) - " "

Elite 4:
00:08:26 (3,4,5,6) - y does 4 have a larger spacing from 3 than 6 from 5
00:28:14 (6,7,8) - might want to make this similar to 4,5,6 (7's spacing is different than 4's)

Champion:
00:05:76 (4,5,1) - might want to make this a horizontal reflection of 00:04:81 (4,1,2)
00:54:81 (3) - make the same distance from 2 that 1 is

As other people said, you are probably going to need more of a pattern. Most of the curves all seem to be placed sporadically.

Nice skin.

lukewarmholiday wrote:

Well the map is pretty simple here we go.

Youngster
00:22:91 (1) - very slightly overspaced, not a problem when playing

Trainer
00:18:14 (1) - Overpsaced

Elite 4
00:12:43 (5) - move 5,6,7 down 1 grid at level 3
00:29:45 (10) - overspaced, move between 9 and 1

Champion
Nothing

fufe wrote:

gawd 5 pages . . .
requested return o.o

Youngster- Still doesnt really go witht he music at all imo. could be any song with the same bpm. Meaning the sliders and spinners are thrown in at random or so it seems

Elite4:
00:07:67 (1,2) - nazish spacing, its a tad missleading
00:20:05 (5,6) - nazi spacing - imperfect pattern
00:24:33 (4,5,1) - i dun understand the comboing
00:28:86 (9,10,1) - normalize spacing here.
00:41:00 (5) - 00:45:76 (9) : could use a spacing revisit. many spacing inconsistencies, some touching, some not touching blah blah.
00:58:62 (1,2) - eh? minijump?
01:01:00 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - spacing changed again
01:04:33 (5) - move this forward a whole beat imo. deleting 01:06:72 (1) -
then consider makign these sliders? 01:03:86 (4) - 01:07:67 (7) -

Champ:
01:01:00 (1) - forward 1/2, reduce length 1/2?

Your spacing still shifts in the harder difficulties. I cant say if that makes it unrankable but it doesnt hurt to clean em up? =p

Shinxyn wrote:

Oh boy, this brings back memories..

Youngster-
My only concern would be how the combos are numbered... they seem odd... and the hitsound kinda flows well... I guess

Trainer-
It's okay

Elite Four-
00:41:95 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hitsounds just die out here, add some please?
01:03:14 (1,2,3,4,1) - ^

Champion-
00:26:24 (5,6,7) - whistles?
Redo the break
Overall I kinda like how this diff sounds

Anyways, this is a very simple map (not the song though)... the hitsounds didn't really appeal to me at first, but they have their own flow in a way... that's fine