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NCDyson
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Dunno if you know you moved some verts around or what when you changed stuff, but so long as the vertex order doesn't change, saving your weights out to a file (under the advanced section of the skin modifier) can help save some time if things get broken, you can just load them back up.

The Mirror mode used to not work for me, but then one day it just randomly started working. I think there's some stuff or something you have to play with.

Sorry if you knew all that already, I only have experience with 3ds Max, so I can't really say if there are easier programs for skinning.
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kideddie1501
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ohhhh...did i derail everyone's train of thought? as i have sed before, this is an issue and it will have to be delt with. how did luigihan's ChiBA dancers work? :o
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They just waved their arms from side to side, IIRC. Either way, there's not much of a discussion to derail in here. We should definitely focus on the dancing, and try to develop a unique set of dance moves rather than ripping everything straight out of Ouendan/EBA.
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Loginer wrote:

They just waved their arms from side to side, IIRC. Either way, there's not much of a discussion to derail in here. We should definitely focus on the dancing, and try to develop a unique set of dance moves rather than ripping everything straight out of Ouendan/EBA.
I would settle for punching air in time with the notes. Serious punching. Jumping around the screen 'punching a swarm of flies to death' punching.
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JarJarJacob wrote:

Loginer wrote:

They just waved their arms from side to side, IIRC. Either way, there's not much of a discussion to derail in here. We should definitely focus on the dancing, and try to develop a unique set of dance moves rather than ripping everything straight out of Ouendan/EBA.
I would settle for punching air in time with the notes. Serious punching. Jumping around the screen 'punching a swarm of flies to death' punching.
That'd be neat. She could be programmed to punch in the direction of the hitcircles as they are hit.
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JarJarJacob wrote:

LuigiHann wrote:

That'd be neat. She could be programmed to punch in the direction of the hitcircles as they are hit.
So, sliders should be punching to the ticks?
Fuck yes, Running in the 90s Easy will be AWESOME.



...Nah, sliders should make Pippi follow the slider with her hands.



Fuck yes, Marisa's slider stream will be AWESOME.
kideddie1501
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on pauses, she should do the pippi pose. one hand on hip, other in a fist. she'll be all the " Raise the roof!"" :D
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While punching the hitcircles would be neat, that alone would get repetitive after a while, and I'm not sure how feasible it would be to code that. Now, could we please try to come up with some sort of "moveset" instead of focusing on how awesome punching things would be? :\
Jarby
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Loginer wrote:

While punching the hitcircles would be neat, that alone would get repetitive after a while, and I'm not sure how feasible it would be to code that. Now, could we please try to come up with some sort of "moveset" instead of focusing on how awesome punching things would be? :\
I'm up for an exaggerated karate dance style. Mostly punching, but in different styles.
NCDyson
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I know this is more peppy's area, but as far as moves go, I say give her a basic set of defaults and give people a utility to create their own per song or whatever. Like MikuMikuDance. so far Osu! has been really customizable, and i think it'd be fun to have do a unique set of dance moves for a song.

A utility would take a load off Pippi's Animator, which I'm assuming is Loginer, cause then he'd only have to come up with the defaults. Anyways, I'll shut up now, as i'm sure I've just pissed several people off. lol.

exaggerated karate dance style sounds like it could be fun.
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Having different sets of styles would almost be a must, I would think. You don't want her to be bouncing up and down like a tween on unprescribed Ritalin when the song is slow and sad.
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So is it just going to be Pippi or are there going to be support dancers? Just wondering.
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Pippi doesn't need support dancers.
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awp wrote:

Having different sets of styles would almost be a must, I would think. You don't want her to be bouncing up and down like a tween on unprescribed Ritalin when the song is slow and sad.
Just 2 dance styles would be enough, 1 for each soundset. In the situation that a map switches soundsets several times, there would be a 'Don't inherit dance style' check box, in case you don't want pippi to switch from 'slow and sad' to 'bouncing up and down like a tween on unprescribed Ritalin' on the spot.
kideddie1501
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hmm...i get the feeling Pippi might clash with some skins and their color scheme....color customizable Pippi? :roll:
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kideddie1501 wrote:

hmm...i get the feeling Pippi might clash with some skins and their color scheme....color customizable Pippi? :roll:
How about putting her in osu!, rather than Pokémon Stadium? That would be brilliant!
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Loginer wrote:

kideddie1501 wrote:

hmm...i get the feeling Pippi might clash with some skins and their color scheme....color customizable Pippi? :roll:
How about putting her in osu!, rather than Pokémon Stadium? That would be brilliant!
I DEMAND A .IPS
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She only has one color, it shouldn't be too hard to make that adjustable. But I'd call that a pretty low priority relative to, you know, putting her in the game and having it work.
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LuigiHann wrote:

She only has one color, it shouldn't be too hard to make that adjustable. But I'd call that a pretty low priority relative to, you know, putting her in the game and having it work.
It's not hard at all, it's not even on the priority list. It's as simple as editing a few .png files you'll find right next to the .x file, although I should probably write these things down somewhere instead of expecting people to be psychic.

Anyway, after a few nights of picking my ear, drinking soda and lurking on boards instead of working on important things, I'm feeling like getting something done right now, so we'll see how things end up today as soon as brb sleep
kideddie1501
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i dont want pippi to take up the entire screen though. exactly how big is she gonna be? also, if she were to follow the sliders with her hands...what would happen with etna sliders?
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Relax, the developer is not an idiot.
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I agree with kideddie, I don't think Pippi should be massive in the bakground like Oendan/EBA
kideddie1501
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yea, the EBA/dudes in black take up most of the screen, also imagine the stress that would put on pc's. i think it would be funny to see Pippi seisuring because of etna and kick sliders. lol
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kideddie1501 wrote:

also imagine the stress that would put on pc's.
Not very much.
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kideddie1501 wrote:

also imagine the stress that would put on pc's.
Just...
What...
How...


Seriously, we're discussing dance moves here. Stop talking about size, recoloring and other crap.
And I really need to model a new hand one of these days.
kideddie1501
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we are discussing everything that has to do with the Pippi model....kudos to the frustrated Pippi though. It was a laugh.
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that hand sucks

steal a hand from a miku model or something
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Jarby
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It doesn't look that bad. Then again, I'm basing this off my own hand, so I may be some sort of deformed freak here.
Atmey
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I don't if this was mentioned: change dance/moveset with start of each combo.
Loginer
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People wrote:

hands hands hands
GAH
Fine, I'll model a new hand.
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That hand was also much smaller than the face.
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The thickness isn't too bad, actually. Looks good for man-hands. A bit too thick in this case yeah, but don't go cutting it in half or anything.

It looks a tad flat from the top though - pay close attention to your hand's natural shape. The thumb, for example, should be below the fingers when holding the hand parallel to the ground.

The view from below looks great though.
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This looks pretty slick in-game. There's a tiny bit of tidying up to do once I get back to my PC though. Real tiny.

UPDATE: Still some tiny (even tinier than before) AA issues. Maybe I'll bug Saru for the psd.
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kideddie1501 wrote:

i like it. good job! :)
You should be thanking Sarumaru (the artist of that picture) - he's the one that bothered me enough to crop and format it correctly.
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kideddie1501 wrote:

i just realized how wierd the Pippi model's chest looks...either she has cans or not. :x
"Your foes list has been updated successfully."
Something about your posts really manage to tick me off.
kideddie1501
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what really concerns me is the fact that this Pippi dancer might be a distraction during gameplay..i imagine this would be more of an add on or graphics option rather than something forced upon players who dont want the dancer. :| ( this whole idea is more of a colaboration since many people are working at this together )
kideddie1501
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OOPS..too many posts? ah, well... the combo burst....i like that its all shiny and cute :3 but what if i like the original? would that be an option? switching between chibi Pippi and PippiX?
Jarby
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Can you try thinking before asking a question? Combobursts are skinnable at this very moment. If you like the original, just keep that from the template skin.
kideddie1501
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ok, ok. i didnt know
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Thanks for reminding me that I need to fix this, though. To the desktop withya! (EDIT: And boom, updated post)
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Amazing work on this Everybody. Great community work right there.
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Needs more stars...lots and lots of them.
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:D
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cute pose :)
are you adding eyebrows? :oo
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with eyebrows now :D

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soradg123 wrote:

Model/Animation Analysis
Elite Beat Agents (Looks the least realistic)
Animation
>> Gender swappable
>> (Noticed in Kahn)
Oh yeah. You can also confirm this in Multiplayer: In EBA, I think, the characters will always dance based on the difficulty, so if you choose a Diva to play as and play Medium, she'll do the male version of the dance. In Ouendan 2, the characters will always do their gender's dance.
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Shoooooooo Kyuuuuuuuuuute ^_^
Loofah_old
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Hey loginer

could I see your wires for the pippi model?

also for all those who think there is a possability of a male character?

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Loofah_old
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So how many tris will the osu engine be supporting? Also will the eyes be posable or just there, becasue I'm having trouble fitting mine.

Edit: his hair isn't even done and it's already around 20,000 tris :o , the head when mirrored is around 1000
kideddie1501
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ive already proposed a male character in the osu! fan art thread.
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I think that a male mascot could stand to look a good deal less like the female mascot...
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If you think that's a lot, think again: the DS graphics hardware can handle 6144 vertices limited to 2048 polygons.
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I thibk I found a way to greatly decrease the tri count, just need to delete all the unseen faces, so does anyone want to make suggestions as to the name/design of th character I'm modeling? (not Poppy, that sounds like a gandpa)

so I should aim for about 20000 tris? doesn't sound too hard.
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update

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It's not the end of the world if it ends up at 25,000 or 30,000 triangles, but you'll want to keep things as low-poly as possible without sacrificing quality.

@Echo: An Irrlicht app displaying nothing but a cel-shaded Pippi with no AA runs at 200 FPS on my laptop. Put two copies of her on the screen (about 25,000 triangles), and the frame rate drops to 100 FPS. Keep in mind that there are people with much worse GPUs playing osu!, and we'll want to make sure they can keep dancers enabled without the frame rate dropping.

There might also be scenarios where two or more dancers are on the screen at the same time; what if someone wants to make something resembling the end of Ouendan 2? And like I said previously, there are more reasons to keep things low-poly than just performance.
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Loofah wrote:

so does anyone want to make suggestions as to the name/design of th character I'm modeling?
Assuming he's the dude in your avatar, he looks sly, but the use of pink highlights/eyes also makes him look "fashionable" and "fabulous". Hmm.

btw Ryuukun, lookin' good.
kideddie1501
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first of all, I was planning on changing Poppy's name to Pippin. Like the Hobbit. and the other dude u guys are making looks like 15 yr. old Pippi that whent emo. so idk, my design was a homage to Ryuuta. :x
Im sorry, i just feel like ive been back handed...its fine. whatever. (-3-)
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I don't think we need a "male mascot" per se. I wouldn't mind having alternate 3D characters to use in-game, but I don't think they need to follow Pippi's color themes or design style so closely. I'd rather have Ryuuta or Agent J, or if you insist on making an original character, some kind of combination of Ryuuta and J.

Also, great art, Ryuukun.
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*wants a recap of all the best pictures*

nice art
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Gabi wrote:

*wants a recap of all the best pictures*

nice art
I'm actually starting to collect the best ones I can find, to put into a little gallery. It will happen soon.
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I say make all the "male mascots" you want. For I am making a male character for fanfic purposes that is totally different from the "male mascots" so far. Basically, he's a guy chasing after peppy. Tall blond with blue eyes, bit of a nerd in denial. Hates Digimon songs without even listening to them just because they're Digimon, thinks Pokemon is for kids, and wonders why Pippi wastes so much time cheering on people in a game where you click circles. He then decides to try it to impress her for his own selfish, perverted reasons. Armed with his pink t-shirt, blue jeans, Tigers cap, and a stylus, he dives in... and gets fascinated. Oh, and he has a backpack full of books because he was going to study.

(Anyone figure out what I did there yet?)
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*ahem* The model's coming along nicely. Also, nice fanart.
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Ekaru wrote:

(Anyone figure out what I did there yet?)
I thought I had, but now I'm not sure :(
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Ekaru wrote:

I say make all the "male mascots" you want. For I am making a male character for fanfic purposes that is totally different from the "male mascots" so far. Basically, he's a guy chasing after peppy. Tall blond with blue eyes, bit of a nerd in denial. Hates Digimon songs without even listening to them just because they're Digimon, thinks Pokemon is for kids, and wonders why Pippi wastes so much time cheering on people in a game where you click circles. He then decides to try it to impress her for his own selfish, perverted reasons. Armed with his pink t-shirt, blue jeans, Tigers cap, and a stylus, he dives in... and gets fascinated. Oh, and he has a backpack full of books because he was going to study.

(Anyone figure out what I did there yet?)
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*ahem* The model's coming along nicely. Also, nice fanart.
oh... you described yourself? :D
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LuigiHann wrote:

Gabi wrote:

*wants a recap of all the best pictures*

nice art
I'm actually starting to collect the best ones I can find, to put into a little gallery. It will happen soon.
I was thinking of doing the same, but my library is tiny (and half of it's my/Sarumaru's stuff anyhow). We'll have to collaborate some time.
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kideddie1501 wrote:

Ekaru wrote:

I say make all the "male mascots" you want. For I am making a male character for fanfic purposes that is totally different from the "male mascots" so far. Basically, he's a guy chasing after Pippi. Tall blond with blue eyes, bit of a nerd in denial. Hates Digimon songs without even listening to them just because they're Digimon, thinks Pokemon is for kids, and wonders why Pippi wastes so much time cheering on people in a game where you click circles. He then decides to try it to impress her for his own selfish, perverted reasons. Armed with his pink t-shirt, blue jeans, Tigers cap, and a stylus, he dives in... and gets fascinated. Oh, and he has a backpack full of books because he was going to study.

(Anyone figure out what I did there yet?)
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*ahem* The model's coming along nicely. Also, nice fanart.
oh... you described yourself? :D
"Hates Digimon songs without even listening to them just because they're Digimon, thinks Pokemon is for kids"

No, try again. Hint: Think 'making fun of'. That should make it more obvious. Also, correction made. He's chasing after Pippi, not peppy... <_<; Dang typos, why are their names so similar?
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awp wrote:

LuigiHann wrote:

Gabi wrote:

*wants a recap of all the best pictures*

nice art
I'm actually starting to collect the best ones I can find, to put into a little gallery. It will happen soon.
I was thinking of doing the same, but my library is tiny (and half of it's my/Sarumaru's stuff anyhow). We'll have to collaborate some time.
http://up.ppy.sh/files/osu-pippi.rar Here's a selection of fanarts. I tried to keep it to one per artist for the time being, mostly to keep it from being Saru-centric. I'd love to see some of the Saru stuff you have, though, to make sure that the best Saru pic gets into the gallery.
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soradg123 wrote:

Model/Animation Analysis..........

...........^ EBA and over introduced dummy animations. These animations have been counted as their purpose is still unknown.
I have been trying to find the Ouendan/EBA models! I wanted to do an amv with them, and just basically have some fun messing around with them,
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Luigi, would you mind replacing mine in there with this?

The url is messed up on that one. :<
And I hunger for free advertising

Download: darurar.zip
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LuigiHann wrote:

awp wrote:

LuigiHann wrote:

I'm actually starting to collect the best ones I can find, to put into a little gallery. It will happen soon.
I was thinking of doing the same, but my library is tiny (and half of it's my/Sarumaru's stuff anyhow). We'll have to collaborate some time.
http://up.ppy.sh/files/osu-pippi.rar Here's a selection of fanarts. I tried to keep it to one per artist for the time being, mostly to keep it from being Saru-centric. I'd love to see some of the Saru stuff you have, though, to make sure that the best Saru pic gets into the gallery.
awesome, thanks alot luigihann
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whatever, i just dont think the male mascot shud look like such a metro. :|
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awp wrote:

that full-detail image in your rar that I use for a comboburst <3
By the way did you see I fixed the comboburst? http://up.ppy.sh/files/comboburst-32.png I think peppy's finally going to add it in soon, along with a tweak so that it snaps to the bottom of the screen rather than the top of the screen.

Also, did the rar you uploaded have everything you meant for it to have? There was only one image in the Saru folder as you posted it, none of the inks or lineart
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in regards to the male mascot: perhaps his color scheme could be white and pink? It's not as fruity as straight up pink, and not as "emo" (or whatever someone's complaining) as black and pink, and it's still obviously osu colors.

zzz I know nothing about art.
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didn't mean for him to look emo, the hair's taking up too many tris anyway, I'll change it a bit.

If you don't like him then you can always make your own :) .
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LuigiHann wrote:

awp wrote:

that full-detail image in your rar that I use for a comboburst <3
By the way did you see I fixed the comboburst?
Yup. I also made a smartass comment.
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Pippi gallery is up, by the way: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/gallery?g=fanart
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The Glee Club one made me lol. :)
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Fanart should TOTALLY include lolgay- *shot*

No... the name could probably be taken as offensive. Call it "osugerm"- *double shot*

Okay, okay, no lolgay at all ;( *suicide shot*
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I finished the model and reworked the UVW a few days ago. If I can get Mirror Mode to work, I'll have her rigged in a few hours.
By the way, would Pippi renders count as fanart?
LuigiHann
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Loginer wrote:

I finished the model and reworked the UVW a few days ago. If I can get Mirror Mode to work, I'll have her rigged in a few hours.
By the way, would Pippi renders count as fanart?
I'd add the one to the Pippi gallery, yeah. That's why I was trying to bug you about it in irc
Jarby
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LuigiHann wrote:

I'd add the one to the Pippi gallery, yeah. That's why I was trying to bug you about it in irc

Even bad fanart is fanart, right?
Loginer
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MIRROR MODE WORKS YES YES YES
Turns out I had to center the model's pivot point first. If I manage to wrap my head around how to make the joints deform properly, I'll have this finished today tomorrow this week. :D
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