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Davichi - Sad Promise (Remix)

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lily_no_hana
138 posts
Joined November 2009
Topic Starter
lily_no_hana
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, 17 February 2011 at 12:28:24 AM

Artist: Davichi
Title: Sad Promise (Remix)
Tags: seulpeun tajim amaranth kang min kyung lee hae ri k-pop
BPM: 130
Filesize: 6752kb
Play Time: 03:34
Difficulties Available:
  1. Forsaken Promise (3.03 stars, 248 notes)
  2. Shattered Promise (4.69 stars, 392 notes)
  3. Unfortunate Promise (1.05 stars, 148 notes)
Download: Davichi - Sad Promise (Remix)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Anybody up for a storyboard making or helping with just a few general effects? xD

08/12/10 - EASY (Unfortunate) COMPLETE!!!
08/12/10 - NORMAL (Forsaken) COMPLETE!!!
14/12/10 - HARD (Shattered) COMPLETE!!!

Edits:
27/12/10 - Sandpig Mods added :)
28/12/10 - Changed note position at 01:09:339 and fixed notes at 03:04:273 for Forsaken Promise
- Moved note postions and slider lengths in a few places for all promises ;D
29/12/10 - Sallad4ever Mods added to all promises ;)
30/12/10 - Hyguys Mods added to all promises ;) I tried my best with the hook shape slider.... XD
31/12/10 - Changed tags, Done as much as I can for Weezy's and Sallad4ever's Mods :)
01/01/11 - Added lennox989's Mods, changed background picture sizes
02/01/11 - Fixed a couple of sliders and made some parts look neater for Shattered Promise
22/01/11 - wmfchris's and H-boy's mods done
23/01/11 - CrimmiSkye and artpiggo's mods added
24/01/11 - Sallad4ever mods added
27/01/11 - Wiinter's mod added
28/01/11 - Vincerio's, xierbaliti, Dusty's and thekillerhjkhjk's mods added
31/02/11 - lkp's and sonnyc's mods added
01/02/11 - DragonSparta's, theowest's, haha5957's and senaya's mods added
02/02/11 - Giorgo's, HakuNoKaemi's and winber1's mods added =]
05/02/11 - Chamelepeace710's, NatsumeRin's, ZLOdeuka's, k3nsh1n_H1mur4's, Gezoda's mods added
06/02/11 - Fixed Shattered Promise's spacing distance to 1.4x
07/02/11 - Omega's mods added
08/02/11 - Some pics added for effects ;D Sizes may not be right...?
08/02/11 - sico91212's and pieguy1372's mods added
10/02/11 - al2e10's mods added =]
14/02/11 - Hushu's and Leorda's mods added
16/02/11 - Revengexsoyah's mods added
Last edited by lily_no_hana , edited 246 times in total.
_llkey_18
199 posts
Joined September 2009
_llkey_18
BPM = 130
offset = 4,057

and resnap all notes
S h i a
397 posts
Joined December 2009
S h i a
[Overall]
1) BPM 130 .offset 350

[Easy]
change BPM and offsset first. then

00:32:196 add break time here
00:40:042 add note or push slider here
01:13:237 change this note into a slider. quite blank here.XD
01:45:580 snap to 1/3 then like this. http://puu.sh/wkB

Star (Reason : I like your song)
lily_no_hana
138 posts
Joined November 2009
Topic Starter
lily_no_hana
Wait.. which offset do I use? XD and for which level? all easy normal and hard?
Sandpig
847 posts
Joined September 2010
Sandpig
hi :D

(>'(oo)')> my mod <('(oo)'<)


Shattered Promise

00:21:580 (7,8) - make them farther apart, so that the rhythm here is easier to recognize
00:33:350 (3) - the reversearrow shouldn't be hidden
00:42:119 (1,2) - don't use normal-sample to follow the lyric. x.x
00:47:196 (8,9) - I don't think you need this kind of arrangement and rhythm here. it makes no sence
00:53:657 (5,1) - it's no rhythm
00:57:811 (3) - end it on a white line
01:13:157 (5) - start and end it 1/4 later
01:26:426 (1,2) - I think there should be some notes on white line
01:31:503 (1,2) - make no sence. try not to follow the lyric
01:33:350 (3) - remove finish
01:37:965 (6) - you need rhythm here
02:19:850 (1) - 1/4 later
02:21:811 (1,2) - farther apart
02:29:657 (6) - end it on a red line or white line
03:04:388 (1) - it's awkward, and I think there should be a note on 03:04:273
03:13:042 (5) - end it on a red line or white line


Forsaken Promise

00:18:801 (6,1,2,3) - spacing
01:45:570 (1,2,3) - make them not touch each other
02:01:031 (1,2,3) - space them even
02:07:262 (9,10,1) - spacing
02:08:416 (1,2,3) - even
02:46:493 - consider ending this diff here?


Unfortunate Promise

00:23:416 (1) - end it on a red line or a white line
lily_no_hana
138 posts
Joined November 2009
Topic Starter
lily_no_hana
Shattered Promise

00:42:119 (1,2) - don't use normal-sample to follow the lyric. x.x
01:26:426 (1,2) - I think there should be some notes on white line

Forsaken Promise

00:18:801 (6,1,2,3) - spacing
01:45:570 (1,2,3) - make them not touch each other
02:01:031 (1,2,3) - space them even
02:07:262 (9,10,1) - spacing
02:08:416 (1,2,3) - even
02:46:493 - consider ending this diff here?

The ones I left here I did change but can you re-check them if I did it right? Thanks!! :) For some of the spacing, it doesn't follow the distance snap either... is that ok?

EDIT: If I make the diff longer for the foresaken promise, is it ok to copy and paste from old sections and just flip them? Or Should I make completely new sections? XD Thank you!! ;)
Sandpig
847 posts
Joined September 2010
Sandpig
in principle the mapper should follow the distance snap in all diff. but it is not strict in Hard and Insane , you can use jumps or more kinds of spacing distance there. for Normal and Easy it is recommanded that you have no more than 2 spacing distance and don't use different spacing distance at the same time. Jump should be avoid in Easy. I can accept little jump in Normal but only if it doesn't confuse the player and seems not so hard to reach.
Sallad4ever
2,917 posts
Joined October 2009
Sallad4ever
ok let's do this!!

[General]
- set the BPM and offset of all levels/difficulties into the same number --> BPM=130 & offset=350
- always resnap all notes when changing BPM or offset. Timing-->Resnap all notes
- generally, SV (slider velocity) should increase according to the diff so, higher level should have faster SV
- press ctrl+shift+A to see any errors in the map, but it's not always right (especially spacing)
- use grid level 3 to avoid misplaced errors. View-->Grid Level-->3

[Unfortunate Promise]&[Forsaken Promise]
please change the BPM & offset of these diffs, changing timing is a very major mod so make sure to repair all of the circles and slider

[Shattered Promise]
00:59:657 (4,5,6) - not a good overlap, replace 5 & 6 so it won't be under 4
01:33:350 (3) - this very short slider doesn't sound very good, change it into a single slider or make 01:32:888 (2) into slider that last until 01:33:350
01:34:503 (3,4) - again, this sounds very weird :o
01:36:580 (4) - a circle overlapping a repeat arrow is bad~
02:12:350 (4,5) - try replace this with a slider that start from 02:12:350 to 02:12:811 and please map the break after these notes, there are too many breaks :x
02:21:811 (1,2) - uhh...I'm sure you know by now
02:59:426 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - kiai spam is not allowed
03:03:812 (7) - a 1/4 slider like this is not necessary here
03:16:965 - please map this break
consider mapping until the vocal is over

this is it for now, PM me back after you change the timing and I'll mod the rest

EDIT: If I make the diff longer for the foresaken promise, is it ok to copy and paste from old sections and just flip them? Or Should I make completely new sections?

Hyguys
1,272 posts
Joined May 2010
Hyguys
Hi.
Remove '','' and ''lily_no_hana'' from the tags
Add more hitsounds.

Easy
Make Rhytm (Normal , Clap , Normal , Clap , Normal , Clap)
Too much litlle kiai
00:17:888 Clap
00:19:734 ^
00:20:668 Remove clap on (3) then add on (4) then remove on (5) xD
00:25:273 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/44240 sounds better
01:00696 O.o 1/4? D:

Normal
+1 circle size

Hard
+1 Circle size , -1 Aproach Rate , -2 Overall Dificullty , -3 HP drain rate

asjdfkhlsdjklhsdf end mod
Sallad4ever
2,917 posts
Joined October 2009
Sallad4ever
hai again~

[General]
- remove the audio lead-in, it won't be necessary cause there are enough time before the first note
- sad, promise, Davichi and remix are already in the title and artist box so remove them from tags, try adding the name of the girls
- set preview point in any place that you like, Timing--> Set current position as preview point. Do this for all diff
- avoid using kiai only for the fountain, place kiai on the chorus is better

[Combo]
when placing a new combo, try to make it follow a fixed pattern. For example place new combo with each stanza change or lyric change. Also the harder the diff the longer the combo count

[Sad Promise]
00:50:196 (1) - too many finish, avoid finish in a succession like this (especially when the volume sample is max) it hurts. Take a look on the other places similar to this and remove them
00:59:888 (2) - lengthen this to the white tick (1/4 beat forward)
01:01:273 (3) - not a good overlap please move this
01:15:119 (1) - hmm maybe lengthen this to red tick (1/2 beat forward)
01:17:426 (x) - add a circle here

[Unfortunate Promise]
00:42:350 (7) - fix the slider, the end is not snapped to any time division
01:14:196 (1) - lengthen by 1/2 beat
01:17:426 (x) - add a circle here
01:28:042 (3) - this circle doesn't really follow anything so consider removing it
01:28:965 (1) - lengthen by 1/2 beat
01:32:196 (x) - add a circle here
02:13:273 (1) - shorten by 1/2 beat
02:16:503 (x) - add circle
02:27:811 (1) - YES!!
02:31:273 (x) - circle

[Forsaken Promise]
00:57:119 (1) - the spacing is too close
01:05:196 (2) - in a case like this you can ignore spacing and put this right under 01:04:734 (1) to make it more neat, same goes for 00:37:965 (3)
01:13:273 (5) - spacing is too close
01:18:811 (6) - instead of placing this under the slider you can stack it under the slider's end or place it else where
01:20:657 (4) - ^
01:28:042 (4) - consider mapping this place, maybe put a spinner?
01:37:965 (6) - spacing is close
03:22:273 (6) - doesn't look very good imo :o
03:25:272 (1) - an anti jump but not a good one, fix the spacing

make your pattern more neat, try increasing distance spacing to avoid crowded placement and look at this for basic on pretty slider ;)
Good Luck on your first map~
Weez
2,318 posts
Joined February 2009
Weez
General
- Background image should be 800*600 or 1024*768 please fix
- All the diffs should start at the same time
- Remove "k-pop" "remix" "promise" "davichi" and "sad" from the Tags. Don't know what the others mean but I don't think they belong


Unfortunate
00:59:888 (2) Make it end at 01:00:811
01:01:273 (3) Bad placement, move it somewhere else



Forsaken
01:14:196 (1) move it to 01:14:426
01:28:042 (3) Remove and extend (2) to here
01:47:426 - 01:47:888 Don't like the kiai placement here, seems weird



Shattered
00:37:042 (1) wtf is this o_o looks bad
00:40:734 (1)^same
Lots of ugly slider choices please fix em
03:13:965 (1) make it end at 03:16:734?
lily_no_hana
138 posts
Joined November 2009
Topic Starter
lily_no_hana

Weezy wrote:

General
- Background image should be 800*600 or 1024*768 please fix
- All the diffs should start at the same time
- Remove "k-pop" "remix" "promise" "davichi" and "sad" from the Tags. Don't know what the others mean but I don't think they belong They're the korean romanizations for the song name if anybody looks them up? XD


Unfortunate
00:59:888 (2) Make it end at 01:00:811
01:01:273 (3) Bad placement, move it somewhere else



Forsaken
01:14:196 (1) move it to 01:14:426
01:28:042 (3) Remove and extend (2) to here
01:47:426 - 01:47:888 Don't like the kiai placement here, seems weird Do you want me to just take the kiai away or change the time? :o



Shattered
00:37:042 (1) wtf is this o_o looks bad
00:40:734 (1)^same
Lots of ugly slider choices please fix em
03:13:965 (1) make it end at 03:16:734?
Thanks for the mod, most of them are done... I'll try fix the ugly sliders soon >_<"
Still doing Sallad4ever mods~ I'll tell you when I've done them
S2XiaoZhuS2
1 post
Joined December 2010
S2XiaoZhuS2
I GIVE U A STAR!!!
lily_no_hana
138 posts
Joined November 2009
Topic Starter
lily_no_hana

Sallad4ever wrote:

hai again~

[General]
- remove the audio lead-in, it won't be necessary cause there are enough time before the first note This is the countdown right? XD
- sad, promise, Davichi and remix are already in the title and artist box so remove them from tags, try adding the name of the girls
- set preview point in any place that you like, Timing--> Set current position as preview point. Do this for all diff I have no idea how to do this aha XD
- avoid using kiai only for the fountain, place kiai on the chorus is better Not sure how to change the kiai to other stuff other than the fountain XD

[Combo]
when placing a new combo, try to make it follow a fixed pattern. For example place new combo with each stanza change or lyric change. Also the harder the diff the longer the combo count Oki doki, shall do

[Sad Promise]
00:50:196 (1) - too many finish, avoid finish in a succession like this (especially when the volume sample is max) it hurts. Take a look on the other places similar to this and remove them
00:59:888 (2) - lengthen this to the white tick (1/4 beat forward)
01:01:273 (3) - not a good overlap please move this
01:15:119 (1) - hmm maybe lengthen this to red tick (1/2 beat forward)
01:17:426 (x) - add a circle here

[Unfortunate Promise]
00:42:350 (7) - fix the slider, the end is not snapped to any time division
01:14:196 (1) - lengthen by 1/2 beat
01:17:426 (x) - add a circle here
01:28:042 (3) - this circle doesn't really follow anything so consider removing it
01:28:965 (1) - lengthen by 1/2 beat
01:32:196 (x) - add a circle here
02:13:273 (1) - shorten by 1/2 beat
02:16:503 (x) - add circle
02:27:811 (1) - YES!! YAY!!! :)
02:31:273 (x) - circle

[Forsaken Promise]
00:57:119 (1) - the spacing is too close
01:05:196 (2) - in a case like this you can ignore spacing and put this right under 01:04:734 (1) to make it more neat, same goes for 00:37:965 (3)
01:13:273 (5) - spacing is too close
01:18:811 (6) - instead of placing this under the slider you can stack it under the slider's end or place it else where
01:20:657 (4) - ^
01:28:042 (4) - consider mapping this place, maybe put a spinner?
01:37:965 (6) - spacing is close
03:22:273 (6) - doesn't look very good imo :o
03:25:272 (1) - an anti jump but not a good one, fix the spacing

make your pattern more neat, try increasing distance spacing to avoid crowded placement and look at this for basic on pretty slider ;) I'll do my best >_<"
Good Luck on your first map~THANK YOU! :)
-Lennox-
640 posts
Joined September 2010
-Lennox-
Nice song but a few things that make's me sick D :o
[General]

Set the hitsound at the center.
Dont use to many hitsound's... it does not fit with the music

[Shattered Promise]

00:49:734 (7): The slider is a bit invisible D: Try to change this..
03:26:888 (3): ^
03:32:196 (5): remove this beat
03:34:042 (5): Maybe you remove this slider and add a spinner?

Change this and i give you a star ;)



Sorry my english is not the best :P
lily_no_hana
138 posts
Joined November 2009
Topic Starter
lily_no_hana

lennox989 wrote:

Nice song but a few things that make's me sick D :o
[General]

Set the hitsound at the center.
Dont use to many hitsound's... it does not fit with the music I'll have to do the hitsound stuff a bit later, been too busy lately

[Shattered Promise]

00:49:734 (7): The slider is a bit invisible D: Try to change this.. I tried to make it more visible but.... check for me? XD
03:26:888 (3): ^
03:32:196 (5): remove this beat I thought it was better not to leave a blank space there but we'll see XD
03:34:042 (5): Maybe you remove this slider and add a spinner? I shoulda done that earlier XD

Change this and i give you a star ;)



Sorry my english is not the best :P It's fine :) Thanks for the mod ^_^
-Lennox-
640 posts
Joined September 2010
-Lennox-
Here we go~

Star
[Shalon]
686 posts
Joined April 2010
[Shalon]
Good luck ;)
wmfchris
osu! Alumni
5,072 posts
Joined March 2008
wmfchris
[General]
I don't see BG image in the edit mode. Try to full sub. again.
Make some variation on loudless of hitsound, it's generally quite now currently, also soft hitsound may be better :/
Too much kiai fountain?

[Shattered promise]
00:19:734 (10) - up 1 grid
00:26:657 (4) - ^
00:34:503 (1) - 1/2 backwards, adjust the NC and the spacing
01:00:580 (11,12) - adjust the spacing a bit
01:19:273 (7,8,9) - uneven spacing
01:21:350 (2~6) - ^
01:25:042 (3,6) - (3) up 1 grid, (6) down 1 grid
01:36:350 (3,4,5) - ^
03:23:119 (9,10) - (9) up 1 grid, (10) left 1 grid
03:25:502 (2) - down 1 grid
03:36:350 (s) - lower th sound
better check with spacings

[Forshaken promise]
02:05:888 (10) - NC?
Too many kiai fountain.

Same problem with the easy diff. It seems that it's quite abused...
TTTTTTTTTTTT
1,116 posts
Joined August 2009
TTTTTTTTTTTT
Tags:do not use a comma

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Davichi Sad Promise.jpg"

But your bg.jpg is 1691031fhr4.jpg

Unfortunate Promise

i think you need to reduce volume by 10%-20%(it's due to the song)

00:32:196 this break time is useless

00:52:965(6) - remove clap
01:01:273(7) - spacing

Forsaken Promise

some sections need to reduce volume

you use too many finish hitsounds,try deleting some

00:16:734(3) - remove clap
00:22:734(5) - remove finish
00:34:042(3) - ^
00:34:965(6) - ^
00:51:811(6) - ^
00:53:657(9) - remove finish at the beginning and end
01:04:734(5) - ^
01:21:119(1) - remove all finish which on the slider
01:23:888(4) - remove finish at the beginning and end

Shattered Promise

02:16:042 the inheriting section is useless

some sections need to reduce volume

is that a hard diff?

i think it is,so you might change your rate



too many kiai time....triplet kiai do not make your map shine


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