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Mitsunori Ikeda - Fallen Angel feat. Aimee B [Taiko|Osu]

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Nightstalker
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Topic Starter
Nightstalker
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 6. Februar 2017 at 14:58:17

Artist: Mitsunori Ikeda
Title: Fallen Angel feat. Aimee B
Source: Panty & Stocking with Gaterbelt
Tags: Taku Takahashi Skairul SkairulGames Ppus Maegi QuizMaegi
BPM: 95
Filesize: 14048kb
Play Time: 00:56
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (1,8 stars, 139 notes)
  2. Hard (2,55 stars, 135 notes)
  3. Insane (3,84 stars, 186 notes)
  4. Kantan (1,39 stars, 109 notes)
  5. Maegi's Muzukashii (2,91 stars, 207 notes)
  6. Maegi's Oni (3,23 stars, 257 notes)
  7. Night Oni (2,96 stars, 332 notes)
  8. Nightsane (4,52 stars, 184 notes)
  9. Normal+ (1,73 stars, 68 notes)
  10. Ppus' Extra (5,34 stars, 204 notes)
  11. Skairul's Easy (1,27 stars, 61 notes)
Download: Mitsunori Ikeda - Fallen Angel feat. Aimee B
Download: Mitsunori Ikeda - Fallen Angel feat. Aimee B (no video)
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Hey dear people.

If you want to mod my Mapset:

Modding Notice
  • -Seperate opinin-based changes from guideline-based changes please
    -Write at least 8-10 changes (doesn't matter if opinion-based or not) because I'm not going to throw Kudosu at someone who just wants to make a quick buck
    -If you're polite, I'll be polite aswell, just keep that in mind

If you want to make a GD:

GD Notice
  • -Don't change the timing points (because it will conflict with my diffs)
    -Don't make your GD harder than my hardest diff (I want to reserve the special taiko diff name for my diff)
    -Orientate on my 'standart' + the ranking criteria when mapping your diff, after all I want this Map to get ranked sooner or later
    -Subscribe to this topic so you'll get a notice aswell when someone posts something (because as you should know, GDer's apply changes to their GD and not me)

If you keep all this stuff in mind while modding or mapping your GD, I'm sure we'll get along (or not, because after all I'm hated in this community lol).
Have Fun.

These difficulties will await you in this beatmap:

Osu! Difficulties
  • Skairul's Easy
    Normal+
    Hard
    Insane
    Nightsane
    Ppus' Expert

Taiko Difficulties
  • Kantan
    Futsuu
    Maegi's Muzukashii
    Maegi's Oni
    Inner Oni rip Night Oni Q_Q
    Ppus' Hell Oni removed, pls respond to me, Ppus!

Have fun with the Beatmap if possible. lol :D

Special Thanks!!
  • -SkairulGames (GD)
    -Ppus (GD's)
    -Quizmaegi (GD's)
    -mrcrazydk (Mod)
    -frukoyurdakul (Mod)
    -Ayyri (Metadata Fix)
    -Vulkin (Mod)
    -Noffy & Okorin (BPM Fix) [/size][/b]

Changelog
12/28/16 Changes
-Fixed "unknown" error caused by missing background files
-Re-Added Background to every difficulty
-Removed MP4-Files
-Compressed video-file, lowered size & quality
-Re-Added new compressed video-file to each difficulty
-Adjusted bg-video's offset manually


12/29/16 Changes
-Removed Ppus' Hell Oni
-Lowered BPM from 190 to 95
-Updated Night Oni


12/30/16 Changes
-Updated Night Oni again
-Updated Metadata
-Small Adjustments
-Re-Mapped Normal Diff


12/31/16 Changes
-Re-named Normal to Normal+
-Added hitsounds to Normal+
-Re-Mapped Hard Diff
-Added hitsounds to Hard


02/06/17 Changes
-Re-Mapped Nightsane Diff
-Finished/Cleaned-up on Nightsane


Contact me IMMEDIATELY if you find errors, problems, weird changes etc. after February 06th 2017!
Last edited by Nightstalker , edited 64 times in total.
Woahsabi
11 posts
Joined April 2015
Woahsabi
First time modding owo
Nightsane
00:02:392 (2) - This slider doesn't play very well, consider changing the direction.
00:12:024 (5) - The distance snapping error here
00:12:182 (6) - Consider changing the slider direction to fit the flow
00:14:235 (2,3,4,5) - The distance between these notes seem weird and unsuitable.
00:16:287 (1) - Consider changing the slider direction to fit the flow
00:16:761 (2,3,4,5) - Inconsistent spacing here.
00:19:761 (3) - this note places too close to the previous slider.
00:21:814 (2,3,4) - Spacing inconsistency.
00:27:656 (1,2) - Spacing inconsistency
00:33:340 (1) - Consider changing the slider direction to fit the flow
00:35:866 (3) - Same as previous
00:36:814 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing in this section looks unstable to me.
00:41:866 (1,2) - Sliders overlap themselves , consider changing to repeat arrow.
00:46:603 (1,2,3,4) - This section makes player confusing
00:49:129 (1,2,3,4,5) - The whistles placement are unfit
00:50:077 (5) - Consider changing the slider direction to fit the flow
00:53:550 (4) - Same as previous
00:55:129 (2) - Same as previous

My first mod, I need to practice :) :) :D Also check Aimod ( Ctrl + Shift + A) to check the spacing.
Nightstalker
122 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker
SPOILER

mrcrazydk wrote:

First time modding owo
Nightsane
00:02:392 (2) - This slider doesn't play very well, consider changing the direction. Fixed
00:12:024 (5) - The distance snapping error here Wasn't able to find it
00:12:182 (6) - Consider changing the slider direction to fit the flow Fixed
00:14:235 (2,3,4,5) - The distance between these notes seem weird and unsuitable. Fixed, tho it was intentional
00:16:287 (1) - Consider changing the slider direction to fit the flow Fixed
00:16:761 (2,3,4,5) - Inconsistent spacing here. Fixed
00:19:761 (3) - this note places too close to the previous slider. Fixed
00:21:814 (2,3,4) - Spacing inconsistency. Fixed
00:27:656 (1,2) - Spacing inconsistency Fixed
00:33:340 (1) - Consider changing the slider direction to fit the flow Fixed
00:35:866 (3) - Same as previous Fixed
00:36:814 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing in this section looks unstable to me. Fixed
00:41:866 (1,2) - Sliders overlap themselves , consider changing to repeat arrow. Fixed, tho it was also intentional to add to the difficulty
00:46:603 (1,2,3,4) - This section makes player confusing Gonna keep it. It was intended to confuse the Player
00:49:129 (1,2,3,4,5) - The whistles placement are unfit Was unable to find the problem
00:50:077 (5) - Consider changing the slider direction to fit the flow Fixed
00:53:550 (4) - Same as previous Fixed
00:55:129 (2) - Same as previous Fixed

My first mod, I need to practice :) :) :D Also check Aimod ( Ctrl + Shift + A) to check the spacing.

Thank you for the mod ^^
I've fixed most issues, tho I must admit, I made them intentionally to add to the difficulty of the map.
Since I've created my Nightsane Diff, I've been Overmapping whenever I'm using that specific Difficulty.
The sliders were originally placed like that aswell, because I thought it would add to the difficulty, but now I saw that they are indeed breaking the flow, and that's not what I wanted. So thanks for that ^^
Pretty damn good first mod you made there, hehe :D
Skairul
210 posts
Joined August 2014
Skairul
Hehe...Hard didn't work out very well, so I decide to map an Easy...
The GD is not properly hitsounded btw...
Not sure if the GD is up to your expectations, because I didn't really have any inspiration :p

Skairul's Easy
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TitleUnicode:Fallen Angel (TV Size)
Artist:Aimee B
ArtistUnicode:Aimee B
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Also, a quick general mod...I feel that you could lower the hitsound volume. It's really loud and rather unappealing...
Your Insane difficulty is also 5 seconds shorter than your Nightsane one, Consider adding more notes :3
Hope you like the GD! Good luck with the rest of the map!

Difficulty Spread
I feel that you should rename the Insane difficulty to Hard, then ask for an Advanced difficulty, then this could be the possible difficulty spread for the standard difficulties:
  1. Easy: About 1.3 (if you include my GD)
  2. Normal: About 1.9
  3. Advanced:About 2.4
  4. Hard: About 3.0 (the current Insane falls under here...)
  5. Insane: About 3.6 to 4.2 (including Nightsane)
  6. Expert (Extra?): About 4.8 to 5.4
I highlighted Expert in red because I don't think the song can support any higher than Insane.
Last edited by Skairul , edited 1 time in total.
Nightstalker
122 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker
Alrighty, thanks Skairul :)
Woahsabi
11 posts
Joined April 2015
Woahsabi
I will check these maps again :P . Also, I feel that the Nightsane diff is quite easy when comes to 4 star map xD.
Woahsabi
11 posts
Joined April 2015
Woahsabi
Hard
00:10:287 - I think you miss a note here ( Music with no note )
00:10:603 (2) - Remove whistle
00:10:761 (1) - Remove whistle
00:52:445 - I feel like you forget note for the sound here ( same as 1st one)
00:56:077 - Change to spinner here for last two notes :P
*No kudosu for this post*
I may give another check lolo
Nightstalker
122 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker

mrcrazydk wrote:

SPOILER
Hard
00:10:287 - I think you miss a note here ( Music with no note ) There is indeed a sound, but not a clap, which is why I didn't put a note there on purpose, to highlight only the following claps of the song ^^
00:10:603 (2) - Remove whistle Done
00:10:761 (1) - Remove whistle Done
00:52:445 - I feel like you forget note for the sound here ( same as 1st one) Note added.
00:56:077 - Change to spinner here for last two notes :P Done. But Instead of using the white and red tick, I decided to stretch it from white tick to the other white tick, so the Spinner won't be too short.


Alright, but the next time you'll mod, I'll give you Kudosu, period. Hehe ^^ Thanks for modding it once again :)
*No kudosu for this post*
I may give another check lolo
Woahsabi
11 posts
Joined April 2015
Woahsabi
This is a fast check so no kudosu :P
Quick suggestion: Extend the last spinner to 4 white ticks: 00:56:077 to 00:57:024
I will mod your another mapsets :D ( Still trying to mod properly ;) )
Also, you should try to find M4M from the famous mapper or BN .
frukoyurdakul
641 posts
Joined December 2015
frukoyurdakul
Here are my opinions for Night Oni.

d = don
k = kat
D = big don
K = big kat

Btw, i see that you are new on taiko. So let me explain sth to you. d is red note, k is the blue note. It's a general usage for taiko modding.

General
This beatmap sounds like a converted map from STD diff. There are additional notes which put at places which has no sound at all. Btw, as far as i know, there is no difference between clap and whiste sounds in taiko.

Night Oni
First, change SV to 1.40 because it's hard to read for a 3 star map.

Also, increase the SV from 00:30:182 - here to kiai consistently, not suddenly. For example, 00:30:340 - put an inherited point here and change the SV to 1.03, 00:30:498 - again with 1.06, 00:30:656 - 1.10 and so on. Like that the map will look better.

Additionally, delete next one note after finishers (well, some of them.)

00:06:340 (40) - delete this one.
00:07:603 (48) - ^
00:08:866 (56) - ^
00:10:287 (9) - ^
00:10:919 - from this part to kiai, since there is no cymbal sounds, finishers are excess. Delete them.
00:11:235 (15,16) - dd
00:11:708 (18) - delete
00:12:656 (24,26) - ^
00:13:287 (28) - k
00:13:761 (31) - d
00:13:919 (32) - delete

Okay, i will stop here because this map is wrong atm. Play or look some futsuu or kantan or muzukashii diffs and observe them how they are mapped. This will help you fix the map more than my mod. Hope this helps!
Nightstalker
122 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker
SPOILER

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Here are my opinions for Night Oni.

d = don
k = kat
D = big don
K = big kat

Btw, i see that you are new on taiko. So let me explain sth to you. d is red note, k is the blue note. It's a general usage for taiko modding. I already know that, but thanks.

This beatmap sounds like a converted map from STD diff. There are additional notes which put at places which has no sound at all. Btw, as far as i know, there is no difference between clap and whiste sounds in taiko. Overmapping, and the clap and whistle thing is just in the editor audible. In-game they make the same sound, however, I use it in the editor to differentiate between claps and other lighter sounds of the Song. It's just preference.

First, change SV to 1.40 because it's hard to read for a 3 star map. Done, tho it wasn't my intent to make it 3 stars.

Also, increase the SV from 00:30:182 - here to kiai consistently, not suddenly. For example, 00:30:340 - put an inherited point here and change the SV to 1.03, 00:30:498 - again with 1.06, 00:30:656 - 1.10 and so on. Like that the map will look better. Done

Additionally, delete next one note after finishers (well, some of them.) Deleted some of them, but not all of them, because there actually are hits in the song which you can hear once the playback speed is 0.50 or less

00:06:340 (40) - delete this one. Done
00:07:603 (48) - ^ Done
00:08:866 (56) - ^ Done
00:10:287 (9) - ^ Done
00:10:919 - from this part to kiai, since there is no cymbal sounds, finishers are excess. Delete them. The finishers in this case are used to distinguish between different sounds in the Song. The Big Dons are used for the parts where the bass audibly plays, and the Big Kats are used to distinguish between claps and hits. I kept them for now.
00:11:235 (15,16) - dd Both 15 and 16 are k's because in the song at that position are both the guitar-like sound and a hit sound playing. Kept them.
00:11:708 (18) - delete Done
00:12:656 (24,26) - ^ Partially done. Deleted 24, but not 26 because a kick is audible in the Song at it's position
00:13:287 (28) - k Done
00:13:761 (31) - d Done
00:13:919 (32) - delete Kept because there is a very audible hit at that part of the song

Okay, i will stop here because this map is wrong atm. Play or look some futsuu or kantan or muzukashii diffs and observe them how they are mapped. This will help you fix the map more than my mod. Hope this helps!

Well, It was indeed helpful, tho I think you've got it wrong. This is not the muzu diff. The muzu diff is going to be done by someone else.
This diff is my special Ura Oni Diff, however, it only achieved 3 stars in difficulty, because the song to be honest doesn't offer alot of opportunities when it comes to pushing the difficulty itself by increasing the notes, and making some hard pattern.
To be honest, I could of course highly overmap it to achieve the desired star rating, but I highly doubt that: 1. it will get ranked if I do that and 2. what's the point to be honest. The parts I've overmapped on the Night Oni diff are used to push certain parts of the song more into the foreground by increasing the difficulty, even tho there are no sounds (for example at the beginning with all those triplet k's), but doing this constantly throughout the Song would defeat the purpose of it being meant to be a map for a "rythm" game. So yeah. Just in case someone else in the future might confuse my Night Oni with muzu due to it's low star diff.

Thanks for the mod. It was actually quite surprising for me, because your mod came totally out of nowhere lol. Didn't really expected this ^^
Rosemarie
177 posts
Joined December 2012
Rosemarie
Can I make GD for muzu and Oni diff ;w;?
Skairul
210 posts
Joined August 2014
Skairul
Remade my Diff, because why not?

Skairul's Easy
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 30182
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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[Editor]
Bookmarks: 55919
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Fallen Angel (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:Fallen Angel (TV Size)
Artist:Aimee B
ArtistUnicode:Aimee B
Creator:Nightstalker
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Tags:Aimee B Fallen Angel (TV Size) Nightstalker
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no kudos :p
Nightstalker
122 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker

Quizmaegi wrote:

Can I make GD for muzu and Oni diff ;w;?
Sure, go for it :3 once you're done with it, post it here so I can take a look at it and give you some sweet sweet Kudosu :3
Rosemarie
177 posts
Joined December 2012
Rosemarie
Maegi's Muzukashi
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Nightstalker
122 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker

Quizmaegi wrote:

Maegi's Muzukashi
osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 30182
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1.4

[Metadata]
Title:Fallen Angel (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:Fallen Angel (TV Size)
Artist:Aimee B
ArtistUnicode:Aimee B
Creator:Nightstalker
Version:Muzukashi
Source:
Tags:Aimee B Fallen Angel (TV Size) Nightstalker
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:529983

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:5
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:10
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:4

[Events]
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Video,0,"Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt - ED.mp4"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Nice that was fast ^^ I'll check it out as soon as I can and then add it to the Beatmap. Currently I'm in the Tram, so I can't do anything aside from replying lol.
Nightstalker
122 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker
Alright. Just a couple more STD Diffs and from what it looks like, the Beatmap is pretty soon ready to be modded a couple of times and then it's time to get it ranked :3
Woahsabi
11 posts
Joined April 2015
Woahsabi
Wow, that's a pretty big mapset, good luck :D . May look at this again ( if have time )
Ayyri
Ayyri
Hey Hey (no kds.)

Do you have any official source saying that "(TV Size)" is needed in the title? Because the official album says otherwise:



Following the above picture, this would make Mitsunori Ikeda the artist, and the title Fallen Angel feat. Aimee B. Source.

Moreover, none of the tags that you have at the moment, are needed. Because they are either stated within the title of the song, artist, or the mapset owner. Please remove them.

More accurate tags would be: Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt パンティ＆ストッキングwithガーターベルト Panti ando Sutokkingu wizu Gātāberuto Taku Takahashi TV Size Skairul Ppus Maegi

(Remember to put GDer's names in tags, whenever you have them.)

Whether you use the English or Japanese title of the anime for the source, will change which one needs to be in the tags.
Nightstalker
122 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker
SPOILER

Ayyri wrote:

Hey Hey (no kds.)

Do you have any official source saying that "(TV Size)" is needed in the title? Because the official album says otherwise:



Following the above picture, this would make Mitsunori Ikeda the artist, and the title Fallen Angel feat. Aimee B. Source.

Moreover, none of the tags that you have at the moment, are needed. Because they are either stated within the title of the song, artist, or the mapset owner. Please remove them.

More accurate tags would be: Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt パンティ＆ストッキングwithガーターベルト Panti ando Sutokkingu wizu Gātāberuto Taku Takahashi TV Size Skairul Ppus Maegi

(Remember to put GDer's names in tags, whenever you have them.)

Whether you use the English or Japanese title of the anime for the source, will change which one needs to be in the tags.

For the first issue:
The song Fallen Angel feat. Aimee B is originally over 4 minutes long, as seen in the itunes page of the album you linked. The version I used is the version which appeared in the anime Panty & Stockings with Gaterbelt. I am unsure if this is enough to give it a (TV Size) in the title tho. Please let me know.

For the rest:
I've fixed the tags (didn't know how they work exactly. Thanks for that ^^). Additonally I added the full names of the GDers since they decided to use shorter versions of their names for their GDs.

Thank you for your help. I blindly followed the information I got from other ranked & unranked Maps of the same song.
Everything mentioned has been fixed (aside the TV Size in the title, because I still need verification of you if the information I gave you would be enough in this case to add the (TV Size) to the title).

Thanks again :)

Must...resist...clicking...on...Give...Kudos...
Ayyri
Ayyri

Nightstalker wrote:

Thank you for your help. I blindly followed the information I got from other ranked & unranked Maps of the same song.
Everything mentioned has been fixed (aside the TV Size in the title, because I still need verification of you if the information I gave you would be enough in this case to add the (TV Size) to the title).
Anytime! I am happy to help. :3

Also, that's why they say not to always follow exactly what ranked mapsets have, since they can either be A) Outdated with the current RC or B) Simply incorrect. Furthermore, it doesn't matter whether the one in the album is 4 minutes or not. Unless you can find an official source saying that the one specifically in the anime needs to have "(TV Size)" at the end, then it doesn't need to be there. That's why you see so many maps now, without any variation of "(TV Size)" in the title. Here are some examples: 1, 2, and 3.

So yeah. Just make sure to spot your sources for metadata, especially when it's from an anime. Since moonrunes can be pretty confusing. lol

Edit: Here's another source for the album, *click* (In case you didn't like iTunes. lmao)
Rosemarie
177 posts
Joined December 2012
Rosemarie
Some Basic Mods ;w;?
(No kds ;w;)
General
[list=][*] Change OD of Night Oni to 5 ~ 6.5[/list]

Night Oni
  1. 00:21:024 - Add SV? or remove SV 00:10:919
  2. 00:30:340 (169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176) - Remove all SV and add SV 00:30:498/ 00:30:814/ 00:31:129 / (0.7 -> 0.85 -> 1)
  3. 00:54:182 (368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382) - I think ddd k or ddk k is more better than yours.
Last edited by Rosemarie , edited 1 time in total.
Rosemarie
177 posts
Joined December 2012
Rosemarie
I will fix my OD problems later ;w;
Nightstalker
122 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker
SPOILER

Quizmaegi wrote:

Some Basic Mods ;w;?
(No kds ;w;)
Change OD of Night Oni to 5 ~ 6.5[/list][/box] Done. It's 6 now.

00:21:024 - Add SV? or remove SV 00:10:919 Added SV.
00:30:340 (169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176) - Remove all SV and add SV 00:30:498/ 00:30:814/ 00:31:129 / (0.7 -> 0.85 -> 1) Done
00:54:182 (368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382) - I think ddd k or ddk k is more better than yours. Done

Thanks for the mod :)
Rosemarie
177 posts
Joined December 2012
Rosemarie
OD fixed (Oni)
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Nightstalker
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Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker

Quizmaegi wrote:

OD fixed (Oni)
osu file format v14

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OD fixed (Muzukashi)
osu file format v14

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Version:Maegi's Muzukashi
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Thanks, I've updated it :)
Vulkin
1,618 posts
Joined September 2014
Vulkin
IM SO SORRY FOR BEING LATE AND MODDING FOR LIKE A MONTH AFTER
was kinda busy with exams but NOW IM FREE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *breaks table*
Song itself feels like a bpm95 instead of bpm190 tbh

-Kantan-
Nothing here, just the SV is a bit too strong in my opinion for the new players

-Futsuu-
On map description you put "Futsu" x3
00:10:445 (2,3) - make them k
00:10:919 - tone down this SV, it will confuse the players ;A;

-Maegi's Muzukashii-
Beatmap says "Muzukashi" x3
00:03:656 (14,17) - make them d
00:05:866 (26) - make it d
00:08:708 (39,42) - make them d
00:10:919 - forgot a d
not the same playlenght, also a bit empty (not even 1/4 triplet), would fill it up just a bit

-Maegi's Oni-
00:03:656 (14,17) - make them k
00:08:708 (41,44) - make them k
00:10:919 - needs a d here
Its a bit empty, should be a bit harder imho

-Night Oni-
00:11:550 (17) - make it d
00:12:498 (25,26) - make them d
00:17:550 (64,65) - make them d
00:18:024 (67) - make it d
00:22:603 (104,105) - make them d
you went a bit too overboard with the finishers xD (1/4 patterns that start with a finisher or are in the middle of a pattern with a finisher are unrankable), they were too many so i ignored em :/
Also only the hardest diff can have custom diffname on the taiko diffs, so Make this either the Inner Oni (and Ppus' diff the Night Oni) or delete the diff (yes i hate that rule too ;A;)

-Ppus' Inner Oni-
Nothing here

Good luck on the mapset! night oni & inner are entirely overmapped with this song tbh
Rosemarie
177 posts
Joined December 2012
Rosemarie

Vulkin wrote:

-Maegi's Muzukashii-
Beatmap says "Muzukashi" x3
00:03:656 (14,17) - make them d
00:05:866 (26) - make it d
00:08:708 (39,42) - make them d
00:10:919 - forgot a d
not the same playlenght, also a bit empty (not even 1/4 triplet), would fill it up just a bit

-Maegi's Oni-
00:03:656 (14,17) - make them k
00:08:708 (41,44) - make them k
00:10:919 - needs a d here
Its a bit empty, should be a bit harder imho
  1. All Fixed
Muzukashiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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Nightstalker
122 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker

Vulkin wrote:

IM SO SORRY FOR BEING LATE AND MODDING FOR LIKE A MONTH AFTER
was kinda busy with exams but NOW IM FREE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *breaks table*
Song itself feels like a bpm95 instead of bpm190 tbh

-Kantan-
Nothing here, just the SV is a bit too strong in my opinion for the new players Left it for now.

-Futsuu-
On map description you put "Futsu" x3 Fixed. Thanks, didn't notice :D
00:10:445 (2,3) - make them k Done
00:10:919 - tone down this SV, it will confuse the players ;A; Done. I hope it's better now :)

-Maegi's Muzukashii- Added Maegi's Fix
Beatmap says "Muzukashi" x3
00:03:656 (14,17) - make them d
00:05:866 (26) - make it d
00:08:708 (39,42) - make them d
00:10:919 - forgot a d
not the same playlenght, also a bit empty (not even 1/4 triplet), would fill it up just a bit

-Maegi's Oni- Added Maegi's Fix
00:03:656 (14,17) - make them k
00:08:708 (41,44) - make them k
00:10:919 - needs a d here
Its a bit empty, should be a bit harder imho

-Night Oni-
00:11:550 (17) - make it d Done
00:12:498 (25,26) - make them d Done
00:17:550 (64,65) - make them d Done
00:18:024 (67) - make it d Done
00:22:603 (104,105) - make them d
you went a bit too overboard with the finishers xD (1/4 patterns that start with a finisher or are in the middle of a pattern with a finisher are unrankable), they were too many so i ignored em :/ True. Thanks for letting me know. I drastically reduced the finishers. Hopefully it's okay now :)
Also only the hardest diff can have custom diffname on the taiko diffs, so Make this either the Inner Oni (and Ppus' diff the Night Oni) or delete the diff (yes i hate that rule too ;A;) Thanks for telling me. Damn, didn't know about that rule. It hurts me alot, but I re-named my Night Oni to Inner Oni and kept "Ppus' Inner Oni" because my Night Oni is mine, and mine alone :D

-Ppus' Inner Oni-
Nothing here

Good luck on the mapset! night oni & inner are entirely overmapped with this song tbh We know. But I hope it'll be accepted anyways :3 thanks a bunch :)


Thank you for the mod, and don't worry. Better now than never hehe :D

Quiz, I added your updated Diffs. Thank you for updating your diffs so quickly :)
Vulkin
1,618 posts
Joined September 2014
Vulkin
Welp, since you didnt make ppus' inner oni the new night oni, why not make it hell oni instead? i guess thats better than having 2 inner onis with the same difficulty lol
Nightstalker
122 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker

Vulkin wrote:

Welp, since you didnt make ppus' inner oni the new night oni, why not make it hell oni instead? i guess thats better than having 2 inner onis with the same difficulty lol
I'll discuss it with Ppus, after all that's his GD ^^
Nightstalker
122 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Nightstalker
TO EVERYONE:

Something weird happened lately with my Osu! client after updating it.
I tried editing the Beatmap, but some "unknown errors" occured. In the end, I had to allow
Osu! to get rid of unused files in the Beatmap folder (hopefully it was ONLY the MP4-file).
If you find that anything is really weird, off or completely broken, please let me know IMMEDIATELY so I can try and fix it
as soon as possible.

Thanks.

Edit: Re-named Ppus' Inner Oni to Ppus' Hell Oni on request by Vulkin.
_Yiiiii
474 posts
Joined February 2015
_Yiiiii
Hi, from my queue

Ppus's Extra
00:10:445 - There is a clap sound that you used for jumping so having a circle here is better than a slider tail. Just shorten the slider, it doesn't matter.

00:10:761 (4,5) - The sound at 5 is quite weaker than the one at 4, replace them with a 1/4 slider could make it better.

00:17:392 (5,6,7) - Too spaced.

00:20:866 (4,5) - Make it a 1/4 slider.

00:24:498 (4) - Ctrl+G for a large distance between 00:24:182 (3,4) - , it is too small now.

You should kill some of the jumps and add sliders during the kiai time. For instance, here 00:33:814, you have a circle there but there is no sound, so you should replace 00:33:656 (1) - with a 1/2 slider. To deal with this 00:31:129 (1,2) - , you can replace it with two 1/2 sliders.

Blankets:00:04:603 (5,2) - . 00:07:129 (1,2) - . 00:09:340 (4,1) - . 00:09:656 (1,2) - . 00:19:761 (5,6) - . 00:22:603 (6,7) - . 00:26:077 (1,2) - . 00:31:129 (1,3) - . 00:34:445 (6,1) - . 00:36:498 (2,4) - . 00:48:024 (4,5) - could be improved.
00:15:656 (3,1) - . 00:17:866 (1,1) - so close so close XD


Nightsane
Set slider tick rate at 1 is ok.

People overmap to emphasise sounds, if there is nothing to emphasise, just don't overmap.

00:01:761 (3,2) - Ugly overlap.

00:03:340 (1) - Don't make sliders so curly.

00:03:735 (2,3,2,3) - Just delete them.

00:05:708 (1,2) - Move them apart.

00:10:445 (1,2,1) - Delete the circle and move sliders apart.

00:12:814 (1,2,3,4) - Pay attention to DS, a 1/1 jump should have bigger DS than the 1/2 one, at least not smaller.

↑That's all the basic issues. Fix them and then consider ranking this.


Good luck
PyroBear
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PyroBear
[Insane]
  1. 00:00:814 ~ 00:05:866 Why the NC spam? 00:05:077 to 00:05:866 is fine but I don't see the point of NC spam before that part.
[Nightsane]
  1. I guess I see what you meant by overmapped but it's a minute of a chill song, I don't think it's meant to go that high in terms of difficulty. You could add a download to it in the description instead of putting it for rank. I'm not going to comment on the overmapped parts since it's done on purpose and I think it fits on some parts.
  2. 00:18:182 (1) - Move the last sliderpoint to x=48.
  3. 00:42:814 (1) - Move last sliderpoint to x=80 y=128
I can't really comment on the extra since I'm not that good at modding them and it's pretty well mapped.
Nightstalker
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Nightstalker
_Yiiiii mod

_Yiiiii wrote:

Hi, from my queue

Ppus's Extra Informed Ppus'
00:10:445 - There is a clap sound that you used for jumping so having a circle here is better than a slider tail. Just shorten the slider, it doesn't matter.

00:10:761 (4,5) - The sound at 5 is quite weaker than the one at 4, replace them with a 1/4 slider could make it better.

00:17:392 (5,6,7) - Too spaced.

00:20:866 (4,5) - Make it a 1/4 slider.

00:24:498 (4) - Ctrl+G for a large distance between 00:24:182 (3,4) - , it is too small now.

You should kill some of the jumps and add sliders during the kiai time. For instance, here 00:33:814, you have a circle there but there is no sound, so you should replace 00:33:656 (1) - with a 1/2 slider. To deal with this 00:31:129 (1,2) - , you can replace it with two 1/2 sliders.

Blankets:00:04:603 (5,2) - . 00:07:129 (1,2) - . 00:09:340 (4,1) - . 00:09:656 (1,2) - . 00:19:761 (5,6) - . 00:22:603 (6,7) - . 00:26:077 (1,2) - . 00:31:129 (1,3) - . 00:34:445 (6,1) - . 00:36:498 (2,4) - . 00:48:024 (4,5) - could be improved.
00:15:656 (3,1) - . 00:17:866 (1,1) - so close so close XD


Nightsane
Set slider tick rate at 1 is ok.

People overmap to emphasise sounds, if there is nothing to emphasise, just don't overmap. I know

00:01:761 (3,2) - Ugly overlap. Fixed

00:03:340 (1) - Don't make sliders so curly. Fixed

00:03:735 (2,3,2,3) - Just delete them. Done. Wasn't sure about the first before those two, because you didn't mention them. So I left them in.

00:05:708 (1,2) - Move them apart. Wasn't quite sure what you meant with that. I instead placed them futher away from the slider, because they were overlapping with it.

00:10:445 (1,2,1) - Delete the circle and move sliders apart. Done

00:12:814 (1,2,3,4) - Pay attention to DS, a 1/1 jump should have bigger DS than the 1/2 one, at least not smaller. Fixed...? I guess? I wasn't exactly sure what you meant, but I've done it how I interpreted your text. Sorry if it's wrong again :S

↑That's all the basic issues. Fix them and then consider ranking this. Thanks for the mod :3


Good luck

Thank you for the mod, I've informed Ppus' about the mod of his GD (because I don't feel well editing others GD's :S).
Nightstalker
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Topic Starter
Nightstalker
PyroBear Mod

PyroBear wrote:

[Insane]
  1. 00:00:814 ~ 00:05:866 Why the NC spam? 00:05:077 to 00:05:866 is fine but I don't see the point of NC spam before that part. I like colors :3 fixed it.
[Nightsane]
  1. I guess I see what you meant by overmapped but it's a minute of a chill song, I don't think it's meant to go that high in terms of difficulty. You could add a download to it in the description instead of putting it for rank. I'm not going to comment on the overmapped parts since it's done on purpose and I think it fits on some parts.
  2. 00:18:182 (1) - Move the last sliderpoint to x=48. Done
  3. 00:42:814 (1) - Move last sliderpoint to x=80 y=128
That's uh... a weird slider, but okay. I'm going with it I guess.

I can't really comment on the extra since I'm not that good at modding them and it's pretty well mapped. No problem. I think Ppus' will be pleased to hear that :D

Thank you for the mod, it was kind of short, but if that's all you found I guess I'm not complaining :D
_Yiiiii
474 posts
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_Yiiiii
creators usually call gder to apply mods, and have no permission to make changes to gd. dont worry, just do what you are doing now, you are right.
Nightstalker
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Nightstalker

_Yiiiii wrote:

creators usually call gder to apply mods, and have no permission to make changes to gd. dont worry, just do what you are doing now, you are right.
Alrighty, thanks for letting me know :3
(I actually didn't know it was a rule. I guess my instinct was right not to make changes to other people's work :3 cool hehe).

Edit: I contacted Ppus. So far I haven't gotten any response. I hope he'll respond sooner or later, or else I might have to consider removing his diff if it drags out too long (and I MEAN too long. lol.) So Ppus, if you read this, don't worry mate, you got time, just make sure to give me an answer someday xD
Nightstalker
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Nightstalker
I will slightly re-work all my difficulties soon.
I also want to reduce the overmapped parts of my Nightsane and Inner Oni diff and find a more suitable way to deal with the fact that this song cannot offer pretty much anything above hard.
Lumenite-
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Lumenite-
ayyri kinda summoned me here

complains about overmapping
overmaps the literal f*** out of lyrics
honey what even is this the bpm is 95 not 190 what are you doing
lyrics do not equal streams
you need to stop mapping taiko stick to standard maybe idk i don't mod standard
this is the most overmapped map i've ever seen AND I PLAYED ONOSAKIHITO'S EXPERIMENTAL MAPS
sigh
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Nightstalker
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Nightstalker

Taikocracy wrote:

ayyri kinda summoned me here

complains about overmapping
overmaps the literal fuck out of lyrics
honey what even is this the bpm is 95 not 190 what are you doing
lyrics do not equal streams
you need to stop mapping taiko stick to standard maybe idk i don't mod standard
this is the most overmapped map i've ever seen AND I PLAYED ONOSAKIHITO'S EXPERIMENTAL MAPS
sigh
So what? If Ayyri summoned you here, then you should probably also know that I really don't care anymore.
I'll do what I like, and if it's not deemed rank-worthy, then so be it.

Even if I don't overmap it, people will always find some little thing they want me to change, and honestly, I don't see a point in mapping if my style is not accepted.
Okoayu
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Okoayu
i only have a vague idea why both of you are getting this worked up and threaten each other to inform whoever

But uhh.. this is a game and why do you have to get this worked up over it?
What someone wishes to do with their map is their own decision so yeah.

Btw. the thing that RC is being too restrictive or something came up in here, but I actually don't think it is, it just describes a non-broken beatmap as of now so what's the issue

I cleaned the thread up a bit because it's clearly been going offtopic quite a bit past ... the point that is still left up here
Nightstalker
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Nightstalker

Okorin wrote:

i only have a vague idea why both of you are getting this worked up and threaten each other to inform whoever

But uhh.. this is a game and why do you have to get this worked up over it?
What someone wishes to do with their map is their own decision so yeah.

Btw. the thing that RC is being too restrictive or something came up in here, but I actually don't think it is, it just describes a non-broken beatmap as of now so what's the issue

I cleaned the thread up a bit because it's clearly been going offtopic quite a bit past ... the point that is still left up here
Let me tell you what's going on.
Ayyri and I had different opinions on overmapping in a private Twitter conversation.
As it looks like, she either shared only a small portion of it, or spread missinformation about what my actual point of view is like.
Taikocracy came here to insult me over and over again for having a different opinion on overmapping than Ayyri.

That's the gist of it.
Noffy
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Noffy

Nightstalker wrote:

Let me tell you what's going on.
Ayyri and I had different opinions on overmapping in a private Twitter conversation.
As it looks like, she either shared only a small portion of it, or spread missinformation about what my actual point of view is like.
Taikocracy came here to insult me over and over again for having a different opinion on overmapping than Ayyri.

That's the gist of it.
She shared the entire thing, including the multiple-screenshots long of her trying again to tell you why overmapping is usually frowned upon, especially in the extent you want to do it to.
Part of why she shared it was to get other opinions that the way she was thinking about what you were saying was not unique to only her.
It was not biased to either side.

Severely overlapping a 95bpm song (timing is not a matter of opinion btw, and changing the bpm to be correct doesn't necessarily have to break a map if you change the sv accordingly as well.) is still excessive.
Lumenite-
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Lumenite-

Nightstalker wrote:

Okorin wrote:

Taikocracy
hey that's me
Nightstalker
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Nightstalker

Noffy wrote:

She shared the entire thing, including the multiple-screenshots long of her trying again to tell you why overmapping is usually frowned upon, especially in the extent you want to do it to.
Part of why she shared it was to get other opinions that the way she was thinking about what you were saying was not unique to only her.
It was not biased to either side.

Severely overlapping a 95bpm song (timing is not a matter of opinion btw, and changing the bpm to be correct doesn't necessarily have to break a map if you change the sv accordingly as well.) is still excessive.
This explains how Taikocracy even knows about the conversation, but why does Taikocracy believe I said that the Osu! Ranking criteria is rigged against me?
I never said that. My point of view is simply that the criteria is strict, but not rigged. That's something completely else.

I tried bringing it down to 95bpm. Looks like I did it the wrong way, because every std diff was ruined because of the changed length of the sliders in the diffs due to lowering the bpm. If I'd know how to safely tone it down to 95 without causing the sliders to expand, then I'll do it.
Noffy
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Noffy

Nightstalker wrote:

This explains how Taikocracy even knows about the conversation, but why does Taikocracy believe I said that the Osu! Ranking criteria is rigged against me?
I never said that. My point of view is simply that the criteria is strict, but not rigged. That's something completely else.

I tried bringing it down to 95bpm. Looks like I did it the wrong way, because every std diff was ruined because of the changed length of the sliders in the diffs due to lowering the bpm. If I'd know how to safely tone it down to 95 without causing the sliders to expand, then I'll do it.
According to the screenshots I've seen of what took place here, how Taikocracy phrased "believing the RC to be rigged against you" seemed to be in reaction to your own posts.


If you're halving the bpm, double the slider velocity at the same time and then it should be fine :)
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Nightstalker
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Nightstalker

Noffy wrote:

Nightstalker wrote:

This explains how Taikocracy even knows about the conversation, but why does Taikocracy believe I said that the Osu! Ranking criteria is rigged against me?
I never said that. My point of view is simply that the criteria is strict, but not rigged. That's something completely else.

I tried bringing it down to 95bpm. Looks like I did it the wrong way, because every std diff was ruined because of the changed length of the sliders in the diffs due to lowering the bpm. If I'd know how to safely tone it down to 95 without causing the sliders to expand, then I'll do it.
According to the screenshots I've seen of what took place here, how Taikocracy phrased "believing the RC to be rigged against you" seemed to be in reaction to your own posts.

If you're halving the bpm, double the slider velocity at the same time and then it should be fine :)
I honestly don't know what's going on with Taikocracy.

Done. By the way, the ranked map of this song by Osuplayer111 is on 190bpm. Just... putting it out there. I didn't do it purely out of wanting it to be higher. I thought because it was ranked, that it's the right bpm. Anyways. Uploading the updated mapset now. Removed Ppus' Hell Oni for now.
Noffy
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Noffy

Nightstalker wrote:

I honestly don't know what's going on with Taikocracy.

Done. By the way, the ranked map of this song by Osuplayer111 is on 190bpm. Just... putting it out there. I didn't do it purely out of wanting it to be higher. I thought because it was ranked, that it's the right bpm. Anyways. Uploading the updated mapset now. Removed Ppus' Hell Oni for now.
Occasionally songs may be ranked with the incorrect bpm, and it only be realized that it was mistakenly doubled/halved later on.

If you are aware of the correct bpm it should be used instead, no matter what the ranked (incorrectly) timed map is at.

Edit: And if you are unsure, more recently ranked maps are more likely to be correct than earlier ones. In this song's case, there was a set ranked later than the one by osuplayer111 that was timed as 95 like it's meant to be. This is because it wouldn't be ranked with a difference like that unless someone realized afterwards that the first one's timing was incorrect.
Nightstalker
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Nightstalker

Noffy wrote:

Occasionally songs may be ranked with the incorrect bpm, and it only be realized that it was mistakenly doubled/halved later on.

If you are aware of the correct bpm it should be used instead, no matter what the ranked (incorrectly) timed map is at.

Edit: And if you are unsure, more recently ranked maps are more likely to be correct than earlier ones. In this song's case, there was a set ranked later than the one by osuplayer111 that was timed as 95 like it's meant to be. This is because it wouldn't be ranked with a difference like that unless someone realized afterwards that the first one's timing was incorrect.
Alrighty, thanks for letting me know ^^
Didn't know about that. I saw it and went with it. But now I know it for next time when I look at already ranked maps to find the bpm of a song :3
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