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nano - Nevereverland [Osu|Taiko]

posted 2017-06-02T20:12:09+00:00

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byfar

Joined July 2014

byfar 2017-06-21T19:22:24+00:00

2017-06-21 11:46 zhu: hello sir
2017-06-21 11:47 byfar: hello
2017-06-21 11:47 zhu: you are awesome
2017-06-21 11:47 zhu: sur
2017-06-21 11:47 zhu: sir*
2017-06-21 11:48 byfar: O.o ty
2017-06-21 11:48 zhu: i have one request for u
2017-06-21 11:51 byfar: ok
2017-06-21 11:53 byfar: ?
2017-06-21 11:54 zhu: i been looking through your profile
2017-06-21 11:54 zhu: and been wondering if you mod maps
2017-06-21 11:54 byfar: i dont full mod now
2017-06-21 11:54 byfar: i do testplays
2017-06-21 11:54 byfar: and offer opinions
2017-06-21 11:54 zhu: can u offer one for me XD
2017-06-21 11:55 byfar: just send
2017-06-21 11:55 zhu: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1314730 Nano - Nevereverland]
2017-06-21 11:55 zhu: onegaishimasu
2017-06-21 11:56 zhu: neverland dif please
2017-06-21 11:56 byfar: lol]
2017-06-21 11:56 byfar: you're missing ur own beatmap
2017-06-21 11:56 byfar: did u update
2017-06-21 11:56 zhu: ah
2017-06-21 11:56 zhu: wait a sec
2017-06-21 12:02 byfar: nice love the hitsounds
2017-06-21 12:02 byfar: its fun
2017-06-21 12:03 byfar: but ur rhythm needs fixing
2017-06-21 12:03 byfar:  i have several suggestions
2017-06-21 12:03 zhu: thanks
2017-06-21 12:03 zhu: i want them all
2017-06-21 12:03 byfar: 00:13:334 (6) - 
2017-06-21 12:03 byfar: ctrl g?
2017-06-21 12:04 byfar: and make it hexagon ish
2017-06-21 12:04 byfar: 00:19:334 (3,4) - 
2017-06-21 12:04 byfar: spacing can be larger
2017-06-21 12:04 byfar: maybe a ctrl+h and repositioning would be nice
2017-06-21 12:05 zhu: done
2017-06-21 12:05 byfar: your structure in general is wonky
2017-06-21 12:05 byfar: it demonstrates proficiency in several areas
2017-06-21 12:06 byfar: however when you sum up the map as a whole it doesnt piece
2017-06-21 12:06 byfar: do you wan t me to cover aesthetics or just rhythm
2017-06-21 12:06 zhu: what should i do master
2017-06-21 12:06 byfar: cuz im gonna have to talk about a lot
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: have you tried remapping things
2017-06-21 12:07 zhu: i want any suggestions you are going to give me
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: it's not a bad thing at all 
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: to remake a part and make it better
2017-06-21 12:07 zhu: yeah
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: even though you may hold some sentimental value towards a section
2017-06-21 12:07 zhu: i remapped certain parts
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: who knows you might create something even more memorable
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: yeah i noticed
2017-06-21 12:07 zhu: yeas
2017-06-21 12:07 zhu: D
2017-06-21 12:07 byfar: some parts are noticibly better
2017-06-21 12:08 zhu: omg thanks
2017-06-21 12:08 zhu: im so fired up
2017-06-21 12:08 byfar: 00:49:609 (1) - 
2017-06-21 12:08 byfar: ?
2017-06-21 12:08 byfar: im sure u know whats wrong
2017-06-21 12:08 byfar:  00:58:347 - ?
2017-06-21 12:08 byfar: 01:04:172 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ugly
2017-06-21 12:09 byfar: 01:06:503 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - 
2017-06-21 12:09 byfar: 00:50:192 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - can you map like this please
2017-06-21 12:09 byfar: ty
2017-06-21 12:09 byfar: try using less diagonal sliders
2017-06-21 12:10 byfar: and more slightly tilted sliders
2017-06-21 12:10 zhu: okey
2017-06-21 12:10 byfar: you're basically making a different slider
2017-06-21 12:10 byfar: for every curve slider
2017-06-21 12:10 byfar: its throwing my aesthetic radar off 
2017-06-21 12:10 byfar: 01:25:435 (5,6,7) - 
2017-06-21 12:10 byfar: examples
2017-06-21 12:11 byfar: 01:27:473 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - not even gonna ask what happened here
2017-06-21 12:11 byfar: 01:52:940 (5,6) - 1/2 slider for vocal emphasis is better
2017-06-21 12:11 byfar: 01:53:669 - stop using slider tails for downbeats please
2017-06-21 12:12 byfar: 01:57:164 (1,2) - DIAGONAL SLIDER
2017-06-21 12:12 byfar: the inconsistency in straight sliders is boggling 01:58:329 (1) - 
2017-06-21 12:12 byfar: 02:04:445 (2,4) - 
2017-06-21 12:12 byfar: THESE ARE TOO CLOSE
2017-06-21 12:13 zhu: oh
2017-06-21 12:13 zhu: sir
2017-06-21 12:13 zhu: i cant catch up
2017-06-21 12:13 byfar: 02:06:193 (8,9,10) - these feel like random triples 02:05:610 (3,4,5) - 
2017-06-21 12:14 byfar: 02:12:309 (1,2) - USE PERFECT COPY PASTE PLEASE
2017-06-21 12:14 byfar: use ctrl h and ctrl j please
2017-06-21 12:14 byfar: 02:28:329 - HELLO STOP USING SLIDER TAILS FOR EMPHASIS
2017-06-21 12:15 byfar: 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 02:37:940 - 
2017-06-21 12:15 byfar: 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 02:40:271 - 
2017-06-21 12:15 byfar: 02:44:057 - 
2017-06-21 12:15 byfar: 02:45:221 (5) - DIAGONAL SLIDER
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: 02:48:571 (9,1) - ever thought of making these sliders have the same rotation?
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: i.e meaning when you put them side by side they align?
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: 02:52:939 (1,2) - 1.2 spacing shit
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: 1/2
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: 02:54:396 - 
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: 02:54:396 - 
2017-06-21 12:16 byfar: 02:54:396 - 
2017-06-21 12:17 byfar: 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 02:54:833 - 
2017-06-21 12:17 byfar: 02:56:289 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - what rhythm are you even following here. this rhythm choice is as if an amalgam of the vocals, the piano and your own imagination
2017-06-21 12:18 byfar: HOLY FUCK TRIGGERED 03:05:900 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - GEOMETRIC SHAPE PLEASE
2017-06-21 12:19 byfar:  03:06:775 (1,2,3,4,1) - stop being lazy using 1/2 rhythms, put the music to 50%, and take a deep listen
2017-06-21 12:19 byfar: what the hell is going on?
2017-06-21 12:19 zhu: im doing my best sir
2017-06-21 12:20 zhu: can you post it please i cant catch up all
2017-06-21 12:20 zhu: and doesnt understand certain parts
2017-06-21 12:20 byfar: 03:21:775 (8,1) - random 1/2 sliders
2017-06-21 12:20 byfar: ok
2017-06-21 12:20 byfar: `03:24:105 - another emphasis using slider tails
2017-06-21 12:20 byfar: rule: make strong parts clickable

NewPlayer

83 posts

Joined April 2014

NewPlayer 2017-07-02T20:08:05+00:00

IRC brief mod/testplay, random PM request

IRC

2017-07-02 21:09 NewPlayer: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1346841 Nano - Nevereverland [Normal]]
2017-07-02 21:15 NewPlayer: k so
2017-07-02 21:15 zhu: so
2017-07-02 21:15 zhu: how was it
2017-07-02 21:15 NewPlayer: you havent got an easy diff so there shouldnt be as many overlaps as you have
2017-07-02 21:16 zhu: if i create easy dif
2017-07-02 21:16 zhu: there can be
2017-07-02 21:16 zhu: ?
2017-07-02 21:16 NewPlayer: especially like that one 03:18:426 (1,2) -
2017-07-02 21:17 NewPlayer: idk really, at least 2 years ago people said that overlaps is highly not recommended in easy (and) normal
2017-07-02 21:17 NewPlayer: not an expert tho
2017-07-02 21:17 NewPlayer: 03:18:426 (1,2,1,2) - but suggesting remap that anyway
2017-07-02 21:18 NewPlayer: 01:55:999 (1,2,3,4) - intense moment and you undermapping it
2017-07-02 21:18 NewPlayer: 02:05:319 (1,2,3,4) - ^should be something like that
2017-07-02 21:19 NewPlayer: 02:06:484 (3,4) - also i think u can move that one tick earlier
2017-07-02 21:19 NewPlayer: and add two notes
2017-07-02 21:20 zhu: i can fix that overlap
2017-07-02 21:20 NewPlayer: http://puu.sh/wzSZq/f93f606cce.jpg something like that
2017-07-02 21:21 NewPlayer: aand also distance snap should be consistent in easy-normal diffs
2017-07-02 21:22 NewPlayer: 04:14:057 (4) - here for examle
2017-07-02 21:22 NewPlayer: prev 1.28x, next 1.42x
2017-07-02 21:23 NewPlayer: maybe there are more such mistakes so go through the diff with distance snap on
2017-07-02 21:24 zhu: i see
2017-07-02 21:25 NewPlayer: wont mention patterns since you'll probably change them in future
2017-07-02 21:25 NewPlayer: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1346839 Nano - Nevereverland [Hard]]
2017-07-02 21:30 zhu: so
2017-07-02 21:32 NewPlayer: you can increase SV on kiai
2017-07-02 21:32 zhu: silder velocity?
2017-07-02 21:32 NewPlayer: yep
2017-07-02 21:32 NewPlayer: overall impression - could be harder

2017-07-02 21:33 zhu: doesnt that
2017-07-02 21:33 NewPlayer: 00:27:934 (3,4) - distance again
2017-07-02 21:33 zhu: change other parts too
2017-07-02 21:33 zhu: how to change
2017-07-02 21:33 zhu: certains part's velocity
2017-07-02 21:33 NewPlayer: use green sections
2017-07-02 21:34 NewPlayer: you used them to set 0.75x
2017-07-02 21:34 NewPlayer: and 0.5
2017-07-02 21:34 NewPlayer: so basically set kiai on 1.10/1.20 maybe
2017-07-02 21:34 NewPlayer: you'll have to fix sliders tho
2017-07-02 21:35 zhu: u mean umltiplier?
2017-07-02 21:35 zhu: sorry
2017-07-02 21:35 zhu:

2017-07-02 21:35 zhu: roger that
2017-07-02 21:36 NewPlayer: 01:05:337 (4,5) - those overlaps a bit each other and apparently not symmetrical
2017-07-02 21:36 NewPlayer: not look so neat
2017-07-02 21:37 NewPlayer: 01:40:853 (1) - here you can shorten till white tick and note on the red tick
2017-07-02 21:37 NewPlayer: and add*
2017-07-02 21:37 NewPlayer: http://puu.sh/wzTIn/dc380c77a2.jpg
2017-07-02 21:39 zhu: done
2017-07-02 21:39 NewPlayer: 01:48:717 (1) - 01:49:591 (1) - are those supposed to be 1/3?
2017-07-02 21:39 NewPlayer: or its me
2017-07-02 21:40 zhu: its not u
2017-07-02 21:40 NewPlayer: 02:08:523 (3,4) - missed beat between them
2017-07-02 21:41 NewPlayer: 03:13:182 (4,5,6) - distance could be increased
2017-07-02 21:42 NewPlayer: 03:55:415 (5,6) - dont really like this overlap
2017-07-02 21:43 NewPlayer: makes me think that its 1/2
2017-07-02 21:44 NewPlayer: 04:35:464 (7) - _may be_ hard to see, maybe its fine
2017-07-02 21:46 NewPlayer: so overall take look on a distance again (consistency in certain parts not over a map like in easy/normal), make sliders like 01:05:337 (4,5) symmetrical and neat-looking and take care of overlaps
2017-07-02 21:46 zhu: yeah
2017-07-02 21:46 zhu: ill now
2017-07-02 21:47 zhu: fix those kiaia
2017-07-02 21:47 zhu: parts
2017-07-02 21:47 NewPlayer: could i ask you to do this later?
2017-07-02 21:47 zhu: and check distance
2017-07-02 21:47 zhu: ofc
2017-07-02 21:47 NewPlayer: ty
2017-07-02 21:47 zhu: i ll do it later
2017-07-02 21:47 zhu: lets get into other dif
2017-07-02 21:47 NewPlayer: also probably you need one more diff for this to be ranked
2017-07-02 21:47 NewPlayer: cause 3.35 --> 5.11
2017-07-02 21:48 zhu: yeah
2017-07-02 21:48 zhu: 3moe dif coming
2017-07-02 21:48 zhu: more*
2017-07-02 21:48 NewPlayer: oh ok
2017-07-02 21:48 zhu: easy one insane
2017-07-02 21:48 zhu: one extra
2017-07-02 21:48 NewPlayer: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1346840 Nano - Nevereverland [Insane]]
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: holy shit
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: how the fuck
2017-07-02 21:53 zhu: so
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: didnt play for a year or si
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: so*
2017-07-02 21:53 zhu: should i lower the ar?
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: ar is fine
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: raise od
2017-07-02 21:53 NewPlayer: for 7 i think
2017-07-02 21:54 zhu: 7would be fine
2017-07-02 21:54 zhu: right
2017-07-02 21:54 zhu: yeah
2017-07-02 21:54 NewPlayer: cs4 maybe
2017-07-02 21:54 NewPlayer: hp7
2017-07-02 21:55 NewPlayer: not really like modding high diffs cause i cant really mod anything there :<
2017-07-02 21:55 zhu: so
2017-07-02 21:55 zhu: next dif
2017-07-02 21:55 zhu: ?
2017-07-02 21:55 NewPlayer: always think that everything's fine
2017-07-02 21:56 NewPlayer: lets next, yeah
2017-07-02 21:56 NewPlayer: nice diff, cant say more without in-depth look
2017-07-02 21:56 zhu: next one gonna be tricky
2017-07-02 21:58 NewPlayer: here
2017-07-02 21:59 NewPlayer: too close
2017-07-02 21:59 NewPlayer: to the next note
2017-07-02 21:59 zhu: whoch one
2017-07-02 21:59 zhu: which
2017-07-02 21:59 NewPlayer: will say later in editor
2017-07-02 21:59 NewPlayer: if i'll remeber
2017-07-02 21:59 zhu: okey
2017-07-02 21:59 NewPlayer: the one that i missed
2017-07-02 22:00 NewPlayer: something with rhythm here, maybe its me
2017-07-02 22:01 zhu: yeah
2017-07-02 22:01 zhu: something felt strange
2017-07-02 22:01 NewPlayer: here
2017-07-02 22:01 NewPlayer: that overlap
2017-07-02 22:02 NewPlayer: unexpected
2017-07-02 22:03 NewPlayer: dat sliders
2017-07-02 22:04 NewPlayer: SV too high imo
2017-07-02 22:04 NewPlayer: w/o real reason
2017-07-02 22:04 zhu: okey
2017-07-02 22:04 NewPlayer: check later tho
2017-07-02 22:05 NewPlayer: aaaand there coming 7* part with actual 5.5* map
2017-07-02 22:05 zhu: XD
2017-07-02 22:05 NewPlayer: that was (is?) a trend in 2016-17 tho
2017-07-02 22:06 NewPlayer: wont mention last part ofc
2017-07-02 22:06 zhu: im feelings laggy
2017-07-02 22:06 zhu: let me res
2017-07-02 22:06 zhu: im feeling
2017-07-02 22:10 zhu: im back
2017-07-02 22:14 NewPlayer: im here
2017-07-02 22:14 NewPlayer: so
2017-07-02 22:14 zhu: btw how do set
2017-07-02 22:14 NewPlayer: 00:52:959 (4,5) -
2017-07-02 22:14 zhu: something like
2017-07-02 22:14 zhu: is away
2017-07-02 22:14 NewPlayer: ./away <msg>
2017-07-02 22:14 zhu: pretty helpful
2017-07-02 22:15 NewPlayer: ./help
2017-07-02 22:15 NewPlayer: even more helpful

2017-07-02 22:15 zhu: i see
2017-07-02 22:15 zhu: ACTION hug
2017-07-02 22:15 NewPlayer: 01:04:172 (1) - dont like a shape of this one
2017-07-02 22:15 zhu: XD
2017-07-02 22:16 NewPlayer: looks like it bugged cause only one anchor
2017-07-02 22:16 NewPlayer: just replace it and it'll be fine
2017-07-02 22:16 zhu: i can fix that
2017-07-02 22:16 zhu: any suggestions about hp ar etc?
2017-07-02 22:17 NewPlayer: 01:34:154 (2,3) - here 1/4
2017-07-02 22:17 NewPlayer: oh forgot about that
2017-07-02 22:17 NewPlayer: hp8/9 od8/9
2017-07-02 22:17 NewPlayer: hp8 od9 i think
2017-07-02 22:17 NewPlayer: its 7* after all
2017-07-02 22:18 zhu: its gonna become 6.5 or low
2017-07-02 22:18 zhu: after i fix some parts
2017-07-02 22:18 NewPlayer: od8 is fine anyways
2017-07-02 22:18 NewPlayer: so
2017-07-02 22:18 NewPlayer: as you want
2017-07-02 22:19 NewPlayer: 02:12:164 (8,1) - close
2017-07-02 22:20 NewPlayer: 02:26:727 (3,1) -
2017-07-02 22:20 NewPlayer: 02:38:377 (2,3) -
2017-07-02 22:21 NewPlayer: 02:52:939 (1,2) - maybe increase distance between them
2017-07-02 22:22 NewPlayer: 03:53:376 (1,2) -
2017-07-02 22:22 NewPlayer: that ones
2017-07-02 22:22 NewPlayer: keep it 0.75
2017-07-02 22:22 NewPlayer: whole section
2017-07-02 22:23 NewPlayer: 04:23:668 (1) - after that one map should be easier than on kiai, not harder
2017-07-02 22:23 NewPlayer: so thats all i think
2017-07-02 22:24 zhu: mmm
2017-07-02 22:24 zhu: thanks for the help
2017-07-02 22:24 NewPlayer: youre welcome

SpectorDG

1,167 posts

Joined June 2014

SpectorDG 2017-07-03T15:42:50+00:00

2sr unrankable Easy diff хий 1.5 юму эннээс бага

Akitoshi

2,687 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-07-04T17:07:44+00:00

General

Diffspread is kinda meh, I strongly recommend to add 1 lower insane (around 4.5*) and 1 lower Expert-tier (around 5.5 ~5.8*)

Normal

use distance snap for entire parts. I'll write some important stuff here for now
00:20:134 (1,2) - pls avoid this kind of overlap and flow in future, this plays kinda forced as normal.
00:39:334 (1) - this spinner should be ended at 00:40:872 -
00:51:357 (3,4,5) - vs. 01:04:172 (1,2,3) - yea that's why you need to use distance snap, this is inappropriate tbh
02:32:115 (3) - this object is touching the HP bar with default skin so pls move it lower

Hard

increase CS to 3.5 for fair gap with Normal and Insane?
00:15:534 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - 00:21:934 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - 00:31:534 (4,5,6,1) - 00:34:334 (3,4) - 00:35:534 (5,6,7,1) - and other calm parts: I don't agree how cramped these objects are, they looks messy with those spacings that touching with each others ;;
00:39:334 (1) - should be ended on 00:40:872 -
00:51:939 (6,7) - this pattern is inconsistent with other parts, try to stick with 1/2 rhythm or you can also nerf it into 1/1 rhythm on 00:56:600 (6,7,8) -
01:16:842 (5,6) - why they are sticking tho
01:20:847 (2) - no it's not even on the beat with the music lol
01:19:317 (4,5) - pls avoid this kind of slight overlaps
03:13:182 (4,5,6) - vs 03:22:503 (7,8,9) - why their spacing is different? try stick to 1 spacing with those similar sounds on the music
03:55:706 (6) - new combo

Insane

01:14:075 (4,5,6,1) - this plays meh tbh, try moving 01:14:367 (6) - to 175|164
01:50:174 (1) - this is overmapped as there's no piano sound in 01:50:174 - , u should start to put new object in 01:50:319 -
01:52:795 (2,3,4) - 01:54:105 (3,4) - you spammed 1/2 rhythm, now you put 1/1 slider suddenly on 01:55:270 (4) - , i dont think it will b a good idea in term on consistency.
02:08:669 (4,5) - you can also ctrl + G the rhythm for the sake of vocals
02:09:979 (1,2,3,4) - spread this more to avoid those overlaps aaa
03:05:609 (1) - this is also overmapped, piano starts on 03:05:754 -

ah i'm sleepy and it's 1am here already so i'll stop here, you can take this as free mod, goodluck

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-07-05T04:37:00+00:00

Akitoshi wrote:
General
Diffspread is kinda meh, I strongly recommend to add 1 lower insane (around 4.5*) and 1 lower Expert-tier (around 5.5 ~5.8*)
Normal
use distance snap for entire parts. I'll write some important stuff here for now
00:20:134 (1,2) - pls avoid this kind of overlap and flow in future, this plays kinda forced as normal.
00:39:334 (1) - this spinner should be ended at 00:40:872 -
00:51:357 (3,4,5) - vs. 01:04:172 (1,2,3) - yea that's why you need to use distance snap, this is inappropriate tbh
02:32:115 (3) - this object is touching the HP bar with default skin so pls move it lower
Hard
increase CS to 3.5 for fair gap with Normal and Insane?
00:15:534 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - 00:21:934 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - 00:31:534 (4,5,6,1) - 00:34:334 (3,4) - 00:35:534 (5,6,7,1) - and other calm parts: I don't agree how cramped these objects are, they looks messy with those spacings that touching with each others ;;
00:39:334 (1) - should be ended on 00:40:872 -
00:51:939 (6,7) - this pattern is inconsistent with other parts, try to stick with 1/2 rhythm or you can also nerf it into 1/1 rhythm on 00:56:600 (6,7,8) -
01:16:842 (5,6) - why they are sticking tho
01:20:847 (2) - no it's not even on the beat with the music lol
01:19:317 (4,5) - pls avoid this kind of slight overlaps
03:13:182 (4,5,6) - vs 03:22:503 (7,8,9) - why their spacing is different? try stick to 1 spacing with those similar sounds on the music
03:55:706 (6) - new combo

Insane
01:14:075 (4,5,6,1) - this plays meh tbh, try moving 01:14:367 (6) - to 175|164
01:50:174 (1) - this is overmapped as there's no piano sound in 01:50:174 - , u should start to put new object in 01:50:319 -
01:52:795 (2,3,4) - 01:54:105 (3,4) - you spammed 1/2 rhythm, now you put 1/1 slider suddenly on 01:55:270 (4) - , i dont think it will b a good idea in term on consistency.
02:08:669 (4,5) - you can also ctrl + G the rhythm for the sake of vocals
02:09:979 (1,2,3,4) - spread this more to avoid those overlaps aaa
03:05:609 (1) - this is also overmapped, piano starts on 03:05:754 -
ah i'm sleepy and it's 1am here already so i'll stop here, you can take this as free mod, goodluck

Thanks for free mod! oWo

Pok0555

131 posts

Joined January 2017

Pok0555 2017-07-05T16:13:53+00:00

Wow 0_0 This is definitely ranking material right here, this is too good for a new mapper
anyway, I'm from my NM q
Tbh this map this very good, call a BN to rank it after you get 12 kudosu, cuz this is amazing, mistakes in your map are pretty seldom so I'll try my best to find them, I'll mod Cordi's easy, Normal and Hard

Cordi's Easy
New players often don't how slider works, so having a huge slider section will make them break their combo more easily, you should have at least 1 circle every 2-3 sliders here are some examples of slider that you should change into circles:
00:16:934 (1) - this
00:23:334 (1) - ^
00:28:334 (1) - ^
00:36:134 (1) - ^
00:49:027 (2) - ^
01:07:668 (3) - ^
You get the idea

Also try to avoid reverse slider if you can, most of your sliders are too small for new players to react and can often make them lose their combos, of course you could use this but try to do rarely, here are some examples you could change, but it's up to you
00:20:134 (1) - you could change this
00:29:734 (1) - ^
01:29:221 (1) - ^

You should also make your slider patterns more predictable like at 03:39:396 (1) here's an image to show you what I meant

That's all for easy

Normal
There really aren't any mapping mistakes I could spot so I'll try to improve on the a e s t h e t i c
00:13:734 (1) - Make this a bit less curvy
00:22:534 (4) - Ctrl+H and Ctrl+J this and make it more curvy
00:45:532 (1,2) - Make these slider curve a bit more
00:57:182 (1) - Make this a little less curvy
01:51:339 (1,3) - Make these sliders more curvy
01:53:669 (1,3) - Same ^
03:03:278 (1,2,3) - Make all these sliders straight
03:18:425 (1) - Remove the red point
Hm... That's it, the rest looks fine

Hard
Approach rate 8 is too fast, I recommend making it 7.5 instead
I think the circle sizes are a bit too small, you should make it bigger from around 3.5 to 4 instead
Another thing I realized that you switch rotation a lot, first you were going clock-wise then you changed to anti-clockwise then you changed again, all in a really small amount of time, you should do this seldom and only do this during Kiai time, slower sections, faster ones,...etc

I think that's all I could cover, this map was very good, I hope you get ranked!

Cordie

67 posts

Joined February 2015

Cordie 2017-07-06T04:03:03+00:00

Pok0555 wrote:
Cordi's Easy
New players often don't how slider works, so having a huge slider section will make them break their combo more easily, you should have at least 1 circle every 2-3 sliders here are some examples of slider that you should change into circles:
00:16:934 (1) - this Simplified this whole section, 00:15:534 (2) - 00:19:334 (3) - 00:21:934 (2) - 00:25:734 (3) - made these circles instead
00:23:334 (1) - ^
00:28:334 (1) - ^
00:36:134 (1) - ^ done
00:49:027 (2) - ^
01:07:668 (3) - ^
You get the idea

Also try to avoid reverse slider if you can, most of your sliders are too small for new players to react and can often make them lose their combos, of course you could use this but try to do rarely, here are some examples you could change, but it's up to you
00:20:134 (1) - you could change this done
00:29:734 (1) - ^
01:29:221 (1) - ^

You should also make your slider patterns more predictable like at 03:39:396 (1) here's an image to show you what I meant
done

Thank you for modding!

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-07-06T09:13:15+00:00

Pok0555 wrote:
Wow 0_0 This is definitely ranking material right here, this is too good for a new mapper
anyway, I'm from my NM q
Tbh this map this very good, call a BN to rank it after you get 12 kudosu, cuz this is amazing, mistakes in your map are pretty seldom so I'll try my best to find them, I'll mod Cordi's easy, Normal and Hard

Cordi's Easy
New players often don't how slider works, so having a huge slider section will make them break their combo more easily, you should have at least 1 circle every 2-3 sliders here are some examples of slider that you should change into circles:
00:16:934 (1) - this
00:23:334 (1) - ^
00:28:334 (1) - ^
00:36:134 (1) - ^
00:49:027 (2) - ^
01:07:668 (3) - ^
You get the idea

Also try to avoid reverse slider if you can, most of your sliders are too small for new players to react and can often make them lose their combos, of course you could use this but try to do rarely, here are some examples you could change, but it's up to you
00:20:134 (1) - you could change this
00:29:734 (1) - ^
01:29:221 (1) - ^

You should also make your slider patterns more predictable like at 03:39:396 (1) here's an image to show you what I meant

That's all for easy

Normal
There really aren't any mapping mistakes I could spot so I'll try to improve on the a e s t h e t i c
00:13:734 (1) - Make this a bit less curvy
00:22:534 (4) - Ctrl+H and Ctrl+J this and make it more curvy
00:45:532 (1,2) - Make these slider curve a bit more
00:57:182 (1) - Make this a little less curvy
01:51:339 (1,3) - Make these sliders more curvy
01:53:669 (1,3) - Same ^
03:03:278 (1,2,3) - Make all these sliders straight
03:18:425 (1) - Remove the red point
Hm... That's it, the rest looks fine

Hard
Approach rate 8 is too fast, I recommend making it 7.5 instead
I think the circle sizes are a bit too small, you should make it bigger from around 3.5 to 4 instead
Another thing I realized that you switch rotation a lot, first you were going clock-wise then you changed to anti-clockwise then you changed again, all in a really small amount of time, you should do this seldom and only do this during Kiai time, slower sections, faster ones,...etc

I think that's all I could cover, this map was very good, I hope you get ranked!

thanks for the mod

CucumberCuc

1,316 posts

Joined January 2016

CucumberCuc 2017-07-06T10:05:22+00:00

Hi
you wanted me to do the mod to your "neverland" complexity, well, okay

[Neverland]
I think that the sound of bells at the beginning are too loud, maybe lower it to better fit the song?
00:04:934 (3) I think this slider can be made more open so it does not overlap the slider to 00:08:534 (3)
00:55:871 (1,3) overlap
01:05:920 (6) i think this circle can move down for better flow and distance
01:22:959 (1) move down for better flow or can stack with 01:21:794 (2)
01:39:833 (3,4,5,6,7) look into how you decided to do here, 3 and 4 you have a block stronger than the next circles
01:43:329 (2,3) - 01:44:785 (3,4) do far for the some distance?
01:47:844 (1) move slightly up
01:48:863 (2) i think you can move down for better flow and to make it look more like the letter "Z"
01:52:504 (1,4,6) strange overlap
01:57:746 (3) move left for better flow
02:06:848 (3,4) fix stack
02:09:397 (4,5) i think it's far
02:27:892 (5) move slightly down and right for better overlap
02:43:766 (2) move right for distance
02:56:289 - 1,2 and 3,4 different range
for Insane and Neverland - why on 01:51:047 not have slider/circles? if at 04:00:075 is the same beginning voice and sound?

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-07-06T10:22:43+00:00

CucumberCuc wrote:
Hi
you wanted me to do the mod to your "neverland" complexity, well, okay

[Neverland]
I think that the sound of bells at the beginning are too loud, maybe lower it to better fit the song?
00:04:934 (3) I think this slider can be made more open so it does not overlap the slider to 00:08:534 (3)
00:55:871 (1,3) overlap
01:05:920 (6) i think this circle can move down for better flow and distance
01:22:959 (1) move down for better flow or can stack with 01:21:794 (2)
01:39:833 (3,4,5,6,7) look into how you decided to do here, 3 and 4 you have a block stronger than the next circles
01:43:329 (2,3) - 01:44:785 (3,4) do far for the some distance?
01:47:844 (1) move slightly up
01:48:863 (2) i think you can move down for better flow and to make it look more like the letter "Z"
01:52:504 (1,4,6) strange overlap
01:57:746 (3) move left for better flow
02:06:848 (3,4) fix stack
02:09:397 (4,5) i think it's far
02:27:892 (5) move slightly down and right for better overlap
02:43:766 (2) move right for distance
02:56:289 - 1,2 and 3,4 different range
for Insane and Neverland - why on 01:51:047 not have slider/circles? if at 04:00:075 is the same beginning voice and sound?

thanks for the mod!

epes2001 773

148 posts

Joined September 2014

epes2001 773 2017-07-26T10:04:43+00:00

Hello m4m here , sorry for taking way too long

One thing , the second bpm offset is a bit odd , should be 40862 instead of 40872

Cordi's Easy

. 00:16:934 (1,2) - Make a hole in between them to look nicer
. 00:34:134 (2) - The slider should be parallel to the previous slider like this

. 01:55:999 (1,2,3) - These should be either 4 circles or 2 slider to follow the song
02:05:319 (1,2,3) - ^ same
03:11:435 (1,2,3) - ^ same
03:20:755 (1,2,3) - ^ same
04:05:027 (1,2,3) - ^ same
04:14:347 (1,2,3) - ^ same

Normal

01:55:999 (1,2,3) - ^ same
. 02:11:144 (2) - Lower the head of the slider like this

. 02:12:309 (1) - Match the circle to the end of the previous slider like this

. 03:40:270 - Need a circle here
. 04:05:026 (1,2,3) - These doesn't seems to follow the song , maybe replace it with something else?

Hard

. 01:53:376 (6) - Lower the circle to balance out the distance with 01:52:940 (5) and 01:53:522 (7)
. 02:11:580 (6) - Move the circle to the right to balance out the distance with 02:11:144 (5) and 02:11:727 (7)
. 02:35:609 (8) - This circle is a bit far away
. 03:25:415 (1) - Blanket
. 04:00:075 - Change the slider velocity to 1x

Insane

. 01:21:649 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These circles doesn't really follow the song , something like this would be better

. 02:14:712 (1) - Remove the spinner and map the gap because it feels like something is cutted out of here
. 02:46:969 (3) - Remove this circle
. 02:59:202 (2,3) - These two looks weird , something like this would be better

Neverland

. 00:44:075 (8) - Push the note a bit to the left like this

. 00:44:949 (5,6,7,8,9) - These looks a bit weird , something like this would be better

Overall the map is really good and actually rankable , good luck with that!

Cordie

67 posts

Joined February 2015

Cordie 2017-07-27T13:12:49+00:00

SPOILER

epes2001 773 wrote:
Hello m4m here , sorry for taking way too long

Cordi's Easy

. 00:16:934 (1,2) - Make a hole in between them to look nicer - done
. 00:34:134 (2) - The slider should be parallel to the previous slider like this - done

. 01:55:999 (1,2,3) - These should be either 4 circles or 2 slider to follow the song - 2 sliders would be redundant here. 4 circles would boost the star rating too much. Will keep in mind
02:05:319 (1,2,3) - ^ same
03:11:435 (1,2,3) - ^ same
03:20:755 (1,2,3) - ^ same
04:05:027 (1,2,3) - ^ same
04:14:347 (1,2,3) - ^ same

Thanks for modding!

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-07-27T17:33:15+00:00

epes2001 773 wrote:
Hello m4m here , sorry for taking way too long

One thing , the second bpm offset is a bit odd , should be 40862 instead of 40872

Cordi's Easy

. 00:16:934 (1,2) - Make a hole in between them to look nicer
. 00:34:134 (2) - The slider should be parallel to the previous slider like this

. 01:55:999 (1,2,3) - These should be either 4 circles or 2 slider to follow the song
02:05:319 (1,2,3) - ^ same
03:11:435 (1,2,3) - ^ same
03:20:755 (1,2,3) - ^ same
04:05:027 (1,2,3) - ^ same
04:14:347 (1,2,3) - ^ same

Normal

01:55:999 (1,2,3) - ^ same
. 02:11:144 (2) - Lower the head of the slider like this

. 02:12:309 (1) - Match the circle to the end of the previous slider like this

. 03:40:270 - Need a circle here
. 04:05:026 (1,2,3) - These doesn't seems to follow the song , maybe replace it with something else?

Hard

. 01:53:376 (6) - Lower the circle to balance out the distance with 01:52:940 (5) and 01:53:522 (7)
. 02:11:580 (6) - Move the circle to the right to balance out the distance with 02:11:144 (5) and 02:11:727 (7)
. 02:35:609 (8) - This circle is a bit far away
. 03:25:415 (1) - Blanket
. 04:00:075 - Change the slider velocity to 1x

Insane

. 01:21:649 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These circles doesn't really follow the song , something like this would be better

. 02:14:712 (1) - Remove the spinner and map the gap because it feels like something is cutted out of here
. 02:46:969 (3) - Remove this circle
. 02:59:202 (2,3) - These two looks weird , something like this would be better

Neverland

. 00:44:075 (8) - Push the note a bit to the left like this

. 00:44:949 (5,6,7,8,9) - These looks a bit weird , something like this would be better

Overall the map is really good and actually rankable , good luck with that!

no time to reply ive made few changes based on your opinion ill mod your map in 5days

victorfernando

292 posts

Joined October 2016

victorfernando 2017-08-14T22:35:35+00:00

i started to make hard

HARD

osu file format v14

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Creator:zhu
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Tags:
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zhu

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zhu 2017-08-15T03:31:04+00:00

victorfernando wrote:

i started to make hard

HARD

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Alright i uploaded it seems pretty well made

victorfernando

292 posts

Joined October 2016

victorfernando 2017-08-22T20:28:48+00:00

Pls help me (do the parts i left)

Hard

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Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2017-09-19T16:36:51+00:00

[redemption]
-00:04:134 - i rly think this cymbal should be clickable, try this maybe http://puu.sh/xDDoi/71ec5a7e7f.jpg
-00:05:334 - same with this note its clearly stronger than other piano notes should be emphasized
-00:08:934 - this reverse is overmapped nothing i can hear on that one
-00:16:134 - missing note?
-00:20:134 (4) - try this http://puu.sh/xDDvj/c5fc43e530.jpg
-00:21:934 (3,5) - just a suggestion but these should be jumps like u did on 00:12:334 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
-00:28:534 (4,5,6) - make it so its doesnt overlap and tbh 3 stacked notes is a little boring maybe move the slider somwhere else
-00:32:934 (4) - new combo for velocity change
-00:34:734 (3) - ctrl+g?
-00:58:056 (4) - convert to circles since the rythm u following isnt quite correct here the red tick should be clickable
-01:03:590 (7) - split into 2 1/2 sliders is more wise imo
-01:06:794 (3,4) - ctrl+g rythm wise
-01:12:619 (6) - ctrl+j asthetics wise
-03:57:818 - mute this slider end
-01:51:047 - u ignored vocals here, but here u didnt 04:00:076 (1) - so either ignore it or map it both for the sake of consistency

rest is fine, gl

Electoz

Beatmap Nominator

1,895 posts

Joined May 2015

Electoz 2017-09-19T18:55:41+00:00

Did an irc mod with the mapper, top diff

chatlog

22:47 zhu: allo
00:44 Electoz: hi
00:44 Electoz: sorry didn't see the chat lol
00:45 zhu: umm
00:45 zhu: do you have any free time
00:45 Electoz: ?
00:46 zhu: if you have can you brief mod 1 dif of my map
00:46 Electoz: oh
00:47 Electoz: now I remembered you
00:47 Electoz: sure I think
00:47 Electoz: though I don't find things much from a quick look
00:47 zhu: give me a min
00:47 zhu: yo upload
00:47 zhu: my changes
00:52 zhu: aighy
00:52 zhu: done
00:52 *zhu is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1394515 Nano - Nevereverland]
00:54 Electoz: what diff
00:54 Electoz: the highest?
00:55 zhu: yeaj
00:55 zhu: yeah*
00:56 Electoz: gimme
00:56 Electoz: a few mins
00:56 zhu: okay
01:09 Electoz: mm
01:09 Electoz: 02:23:960 (1,2,3) - could use a lower volume or something
01:09 Electoz: since the intensity changes already
01:10 Electoz: 02:05:319 (1,2,3) - 02:06:193 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't see any reason to make these differently
01:10 Electoz: considering you did 03:20:755 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this kind of thing in the same way, in other placeas
01:10 Electoz: *places
01:11 Electoz: sometimes you didn't seem to care random overlaps much
01:11 Electoz: but at some point they made the map looks unpolished/untidy
01:11 Electoz: or whatever
01:11 Electoz: like
01:11 Electoz: 00:13:334 (6,1) - 
01:11 Electoz: 01:56:581 (5,5) - 
01:11 Electoz: etc
01:12 Electoz: like, when doing overlaps
01:12 Electoz: you should have a reason or logic for doing so
01:12 Electoz: could be aesthetics, patterning, etc
01:12 Electoz: e.g. 03:10:561 (3,5) - this kind of thing is fine
01:13 Electoz: 03:30:221 (1,2,3) - this is also okayish since the overlap is for patterning purpose
01:13 Electoz: oh wait are you afk
01:13 zhu: im here
01:13 Electoz: ok
01:14 Electoz: also one of the important things here is that
01:14 Electoz: your repeat slider usage
01:14 Electoz: generally we don't use 1/2 repeat sliders in intense sections
01:14 Electoz: aka when the song is not calm
01:14 Electoz: cuz intense sections tend to have a higher SV
01:15 Electoz: and repeat sliders generally force you to go back and forth
01:15 Electoz: which most people found them uncomfortable
01:15 zhu: oh
01:15 zhu: any examples
01:15 Electoz: stuff like
01:15 Electoz: 01:11:600 (2) - 
01:15 Electoz: for example
01:15 Electoz: other reason is that
01:16 Electoz: repeat sliders at least involve 2 passive beats
01:16 Electoz: which ruins the intensity
01:16 Electoz: passive beats = anything that's not clickable, repeat, slidertails, or whatever
01:16 Electoz: like for example
01:16 Electoz: 01:57:746 (6) - 
01:16 Electoz: for intense sections, like kiai for example
01:17 Electoz: you want objects to be clickable more than any other section
01:17 zhu: so
01:17 Electoz: beause that way represent the gameplay that hey the things are harder to play when the intensity of the song increases
01:17 zhu: i reokace them with
01:17 zhu: replace
01:18 zhu: i see
01:18 Electoz: so
01:18 Electoz: for
01:18 Electoz: 01:57:746 (6) - 
01:18 Electoz: you could use slider + circle, cicle + slider, or 3 circles
01:18 Electoz: according to
01:18 Electoz: the rhythm you're following
01:18 Electoz: use as you see fit
01:18 zhu: okay
01:18 Electoz: because repeat sliders don't really force you to jump right
01:19 zhu: yes
01:19 Electoz: if it were 2 separated objects
01:19 Electoz: at least the intensity can be somewhat reflected by the jump
01:20 Electoz: 02:00:368 (5,6,1) - hmm I wish you could do this kind of stuff more
01:20 Electoz: instead of
01:20 Electoz: long ass streams like
01:20 Electoz: 03:15:513 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 03:28:327 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - 
01:20 Electoz: just my
01:20 Electoz: presonal preference
01:20 Electoz: but
01:21 Electoz: generally 1/4 sliders involve more speed in gameplay
01:21 Electoz: compared to stream
01:21 Electoz: while stream needs more tapping than 1/4 sliders
01:21 Electoz: these are gameplay differences between them
01:22 zhu: kick sliders?
01:22 Electoz: 02:13:183 (7) - 03:28:619 (7,8,9,10) - should use the same rhythm between these btw
01:22 Electoz: I think?
01:22 Electoz: I'm trying not to call that
01:22 Electoz: beacuse there are 2 definitions
01:22 Electoz: for the term "kickslider"
01:22 Electoz: and it's confusing
01:23 zhu: can you explain it
01:24 Electoz: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/470582/start=0&view=viewpoll
01:24 Electoz: should be easier with that link
01:25 zhu: hold down slider?
01:26 Electoz: I
01:26 Electoz: honestly don't know how to explain that
01:26 Electoz: the link I gave you
01:26 Electoz: is the most straightforward way to explain it
01:26 Electoz: there are two definitions of it, left and right
01:26 Electoz: for each definition
01:27 Electoz: "single 1/4 slider jumps without repeats." vs "1/4 sliders with repeats."
01:27 zhu: first one is kick slider and second one is hold down slider right?
01:29 Electoz: depends on what you want to call it
01:29 Electoz: if you're calling the thing on the left as "kick slider"
01:29 Electoz: then fine I'll use that term today
01:29 Electoz: so it's easier to understand
01:29 zhu: okay
01:29 Electoz: to answer your previous question
01:30 Electoz: 02:00:368 (5,6) - yes these are what you're referring as "kick sliders"
01:30 Electoz: because they involve jumps as well as 1/4 rhythms
01:30 Electoz: so you will need to move your cursor faster than a stream in gameplay
01:31 Electoz: your rhythms are sometimes questionable though
01:31 Electoz: like
01:31 Electoz: 01:52:940 - is not clickable
01:32 Electoz: yet 03:08:376 - is
01:32 Electoz: aka you should be more consistent on what rhythm you're prioritizing
01:32 Electoz: be it vocals, drums, or whatever
01:33 zhu: cant i prioritize other things in other parts
01:33 Electoz: let's see
01:33 Electoz: depends
01:33 Electoz: for example
01:33 Electoz: if
01:33 Electoz: those parts
01:33 Electoz: are musically the same
01:33 Electoz: then you shouldn't
01:34 Electoz: because the rhythms should be consistent, in order to consistently reflect the song throughout the map
01:34 Electoz: also players can't play intuitively if you focused rhythms differently when the parts are the same
01:34 zhu: oh
01:35 Electoz: most of your placements
01:35 Electoz: can be a lot more polished
01:35 Electoz: by making visual spacings consistent
01:35 Electoz: for example 02:18:135 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - these are nice
01:36 Electoz: like you can see the visual spacing between each circle are consistently spaced
01:36 Electoz: even though they're jumps on almost every one of them
01:36 Electoz: I'm not saying that
01:36 Electoz: you must space things visually consistent all the time
01:37 zhu: its like monstrata hexagon
01:37 Electoz: but it's more like a thing to make your map cleaner in some if not most occasions
01:37 Electoz: uh
01:37 Electoz: yeah
01:37 Electoz: kinda
01:37 Electoz: monstrata can be an example of this
01:37 zhu: i felt like using it
01:37 zhu: his maps are so clean
01:37 zhu: i like his style
01:37 Electoz: it's depends on mappers' style also
01:38 Electoz: honestly about aesthetics though
01:38 Electoz: there's no way of it being completely right or wrong
01:38 Electoz: (unless it really sucks)
01:38 Electoz: but it's more like
01:38 Electoz: something you'll figure out by yourself sooner or later
01:38 Electoz: as long as you map more
01:38 Electoz: sometimes getting mods can help
01:38 zhu: imma make this map more clean
01:39 Electoz: because there will be some modders who give comments/feedbacks on aesthetics
01:39 Electoz: in their opinion
01:39 Electoz: 02:41:436 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - yeah could be cleaner here too
01:39 Electoz: like
01:39 Electoz: this thing look unclean because
01:39 Electoz: 02:41:581 (2,6) - there's an overlap
01:39 Electoz: and there's no such thing anywhere else in this pattern or whatever
01:40 Electoz: so the placements look kinda random
01:40 zhu: i dont even remember what i was thinking
01:40 zhu: lol
01:40 Electoz: zz
01:41 Electoz: 03:02:988 (3) - lol what
01:41 zhu: like this
01:41 zhu: 01:03:881 (8,2) -
01:41 Electoz: what do you mean by 01:03:881 (8,2) - 
01:41 zhu: i didnt fixed that after velocity multiplier it seems
01:42 zhu: 01:03:881 (8,2) - these are overlapped
01:42 zhu: should i place 01:04:609 (2) -  this on
01:42 zhu: x144 y72
01:43 zhu: and fix
01:43 zhu: 01:04:755 (3) - this ones spacing
01:43 zhu: ?
01:43 Electoz: depends
01:43 Electoz: but for me it's cleaner
01:43 Electoz: with the thing stacked
01:43 Electoz: overlapping a circle under a sliderbody is
01:43 Electoz: unclean + ruins readability
01:44 zhu: okay
01:44 Electoz: 01:06:357 (1,2) - could swap NC if you care about downbeat stuff
01:45 zhu: roger
01:46 Electoz: actually I'm sleepy now so
01:46 Electoz: probably one last thing
01:46 Electoz: 02:09:979 (1,2,3,4) - 
01:46 Electoz: when you're making a pattern
01:46 Electoz: or something
01:46 Electoz: make sure that it represents the song, according to your interpretation
01:47 Electoz: let's see
01:47 Electoz: for example
01:47 Electoz: 01:55:999 (1,2,3,4,5) - you did this
01:47 Electoz: because it reflects vocal right?
01:47 Electoz: and you do that whenever the same vocal happens on other places
01:47 zhu: yeah i suppose
01:47 Electoz: so
01:47 Electoz: that one
01:47 Electoz: reflects vocal
01:47 Electoz: and what about 02:09:979 (1,2,3,4) - then?
01:48 Electoz: do they reflect vocals? drums? or other rhythms?
01:48 Electoz: if you can't answer that question to yourself
01:48 Electoz: then yea you got a problem
01:48 zhu: drums
01:48 zhu: i think
01:48 Electoz: so 
01:48 Electoz: assuming you know what you're doing
01:48 Electoz: the next thing to consider is
01:49 Electoz: whether you do that kind of pattern consistently
01:49 Electoz: in this case
01:49 Electoz: 02:09:979 (1,2,3,4) - is a pattern
01:49 Electoz: 03:25:415 (1,2,3,4,5) - is not I assume?
01:50 Electoz: if some things are musically the same
01:50 zhu: oh
01:50 Electoz: then they should be reflected by similar patterns
01:50 Electoz: in mapping
01:50 Electoz: that's the very core point
01:50 Electoz: of it
01:50 zhu: okay ill fix that
01:50 zhu: i just couldnt notice that
01:50 zhu: do you think this map will be ranked in near future
01:51 Electoz: probably needs quite a bunch of mods at the very least
01:51 Electoz: to me the biggest issue I have here
01:51 Electoz: *issues
01:51 Electoz: are the way you used 1/2 repeat sliders and random overlaps which made the map untidy
01:51 Electoz: which I already mention those
01:52 zhu: i see
01:52 zhu: ill try my best
01:52 zhu: to dix them
01:52 zhu: fix*
01:52 Electoz: aa
01:52 Electoz: alright
01:52 Electoz: guess I'll sleep now
01:52 Electoz: 1:52 am
01:52 Electoz: zzz
01:53 Electoz: oh
01:53 Electoz: yeah
01:53 Electoz: one more thing
01:53 Electoz: generally for extra diffs
01:53 zhu: its 3am here imma sleep aswel
01:53 Electoz: OD generally is 8 or more
01:53 Electoz: OD depends on the complexity of rhythms in the map
01:53 Electoz: and BPM
01:53 Electoz: higher BPM = chances of higher OD
01:53 Electoz: vice versa happens too when the BPM is low
01:54 zhu: 8is good i suppose?
01:54 Electoz: 8 should be fine
01:54 zhu: okay
01:54 Electoz: ok for real I'm gonna sleep
01:54 Electoz: you don't mind if I post the logs for kds right

- e - v - b-

184 posts

Joined August 2014

- e - v - b- 2017-10-01T21:19:58+00:00

Hey there, could you map your own version of the song for your top diff? considering that you literally copy and pasted my map? (talking about [Redemption] diff btw)

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-11-13T14:58:59+00:00

repost

Rousseau_old_1

Rousseau_old_1 2017-12-29T14:36:56+00:00

За мод рекүэст oWo !!! Хэлсэнээр чинь экстра дээр чинь л мод хийсэн шүү.
Add tags and check aimod
Extra
Increase SV to 2.2 2.3 or more 1.8 is too low for extra also feels kind a off for kiai parts
00:47:261 (3,4,5,6) - 00:43:038 (1) - 00:43:329 (2) - 00:44:349 (2) - 00:45:805 (3,7) - 00:48:572 (4,5) - add CLAP
00:54:852 (1,4,1,2,1,1) - fix blanket
01:07:959 (1,2,3) - use rotating
01:11:163 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - fix blanket
01:13:493 (1,2,3) - is this intentional or just ugly ?
за тэгээд ер нь СВ ээ ихэсгээд янзалчвал дажгүй л юм байншд ккк goodluck

zhu

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Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-12-29T16:42:15+00:00

Fukada Eriko wrote:
За мод рекүэст oWo !!! Хэлсэнээр чинь экстра дээр чинь л мод хийсэн шүү.
Add tags and check aimod
Extra
Increase SV to 2.2 2.3 or more 1.8 is too low for extra also feels kind a off for kiai parts
00:47:261 (3,4,5,6) - 00:43:038 (1) - 00:43:329 (2) - 00:44:349 (2) - 00:45:805 (3,7) - 00:48:572 (4,5) - add CLAP
00:54:852 (1,4,1,2,1,1) - fix blanket
01:07:959 (1,2,3) - use rotating
01:11:163 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - fix blanket
01:13:493 (1,2,3) - is this intentional or just ugly ?
за тэгээд ер нь СВ ээ ихэсгээд янзалчвал дажгүй л юм байншд ккк goodluck

Fixed all thanks <3

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

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zhu 2017-12-29T16:42:46+00:00

Removed Extra changed Redemption name into extra instead.

zhu

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Joined March 2016

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zhu 2017-12-29T16:44:23+00:00

Added 3 taiko difficulties including
Nifty's Inner Oni (4.15 stars, 748 notes)
Nifty's Muzukashii (3.3 stars, 622 notes)
Nifty's Oni (3.77 stars, 664 notes)

zhu

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Topic Starter

zhu 2017-12-29T16:48:01+00:00

Added 2 std guest difficulties including :
Cordi's Easy (1.19 stars, 83 notes)
Victor's Hard (3 stars, 291 notes)

zhu

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zhu 2017-12-30T17:00:10+00:00

Added Starset's Extra (5.9 stars, 515 notes)

bob80905

151 posts

Joined June 2015

bob80905 2017-12-31T00:40:26+00:00

Starset's Extra

00:09:734 (3) - There seems to be a missing note here. There's a sound right before it. Maybe try a short slider?
00:26:134 (7,8,1) - Me being picky, but these aren't evenly spaced
00:07:334 (1,2) - Using this for reference, you establish an aesthetic of perfectly overlapping sliders. But these 00:32:934 (1,2) - 00:35:134 (3,1) - break that pattern. Just fyi.
00:42:310 (2) - I'd make this slider angled more vertically, makes for a better transition for previous and next note.
00:46:824 (2,3,4,5,6) - I'd make these more spaced, you're representing the same sounds with less space. The sounds right before this were spaced, so either make those smaller or make these larger ds.
01:02:698 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is just one example, but I'm not getting the pattern of when you choose to stack and when you choose to space just a little bit and overlap. From here on you seem to put hit circles always directly over slider tails, but other object combinations aren't always stacked which makes it feel kinda weird. imo. Like 01:17:553 (4,5,6) - or 01:26:727 (4,6) - 01:28:475 (6,2) - 01:00:368 (4,1) or - 01:03:572 (5,6) -
01:40:853 (1,2) - Are you not stacking these cause the spacing is 1/1? That might be a good reason, otherwise, it breaks your pattern fyi.
01:47:261 (1,2) - This one definitely breaks the pattern you've seem to have set between 1:10 and 1:30
01:47:844 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Something I personally like to do with jumps like these is leave 4 in the same exact position as 1 will be for the next set. This gives a sense of stop for time and also feels really good to play. consider it. It might give more structure to the jumps as well.
01:54:397 (4) - Maybe if you mean to follow the pattern you set for slightly offset hit circle positions, move 4 a bit to the bottom right so it compliments the previous 2 circles?
02:03:718 (4) - Same with this one, what if you do it with the next 1 circle? 02:04:300 (1) -
02:06:630 (2) - I think if you moved this under the slider in stead of making a super wide jump it'd be smoother to play and more intuitive

Insane

00:20:134 (1) - This slider should probably be similar to the very first slider in the map. So, maybe make this slider curved, or make the first slider in the map similar to this.
00:29:534 (1,2,3) - Seems to me like these should be more separate from the previous note, like how you spaced 6 from 5 with the note change. here you're entering a new segment. What if you try horizontally flipping this and moving it to x=400 y=128? I like this feel better.
00:32:534 (8,1) - Something about these sliders doesnt feel "right" to play. Like, going from a slider leading upwards, I'm not used to then hitting a curved slider that starts going upwards. So, I'd vertically flip 1. See what's that like, change if you like it more.
00:44:932 (1) - Lots of people have a not so good relationship with 3 reverse slider. I'd recommend you just make this and the next note a 5 stream. Hitting the next note is not intuitive and is also rather far away for the amount of time given to hit it.
00:56:874 (8,9) - The positions of these notes in relation to later notes in the song are not flattering, they aren't perfect, and the patter they're in isn't revolutionary. I'd say try coming up with a pattern so that 6789 compliment the upcoming notes and dont partially overlap with anything. or maybe you could just move 8 and 9 (8 overlaps with 00:58:039 (4) - and 9 overlaps with 00:57:748 (3) -)
01:07:505 (6) - This slider isn't optimally positioned. Try rotating it -30 degrees and bringing it down so it doesn't overlap with anything.
01:14:350 (6) - What if you moved 6 down and made a cool diamond shape? where it is now may be hard to read. 01:14:932 (8) - and then move this down a little
01:19:592 (6) - Why not move this more to the left on the left side of the slider? Needless overlap.
01:24:543 (7,1) - Ehhhh, you could just separate these.... its easier on the eyes.
01:29:495 (2) - Is there some way you can move this so it doesnt overlap with anything? Like, 01:08:524 (9,10,2) - This is an okay overlap cause each end looks like it overlaps the same area with the other. But this overlap doesn't work... Maybe move the square pattern further to the left and try to play with how you position the sliders?
01:48:717 (1,2) - This is a rhythmical inconsistency. You just did 2 circles and a slider for the 4 intense notes. So try copying that. and the next set, shouldn't it be 2 circles and then a slider, not the other way around?
02:05:901 (5) - I think the concavity of this slider is incorrect. This pattern establishes a clockwise flow, and you break that with this slider. You should just ctrlH this slider and place it right back where it was

Good luck on the map, I like the music

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2017-12-31T16:10:00+00:00

bob80905 wrote:
Starset's Extra
00:09:734 (3) - There seems to be a missing note here. There's a sound right before it. Maybe try a short slider? //i decide to ignore that note since its very quiet and its on a blue tick
00:26:134 (7,8,1) - Me being picky, but these aren't evenly spaced //its meant to be like that
00:07:334 (1,2) - Using this for reference, you establish an aesthetic of perfectly overlapping sliders. But these 00:32:934 (1,2) - 00:35:134 (3,1) - break that pattern. Just fyi.//yes, because they are not using the same timelines
00:42:310 (2) - I'd make this slider angled more vertically, makes for a better transition for previous and next note. //nah i like this flow
00:46:824 (2,3,4,5,6) - I'd make these more spaced, you're representing the same sounds with less space. The sounds right before this were spaced, so either make those smaller or make these larger ds. //they are spaced depending on the instruments used, tahs why claps get more space than others
01:02:698 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is just one example, but I'm not getting the pattern of when you choose to stack and when you choose to space just a little bit and overlap. From here on you seem to put hit circles always directly over slider tails, but other object combinations aren't always stacked which makes it feel kinda weird. imo. Like 01:17:553 (4,5,6) - or 01:26:727 (4,6) - 01:28:475 (6,2) - 01:00:368 (4,1) or - 01:03:572 (5,6) - //overlap when its back and forth movement
01:40:853 (1,2) - Are you not stacking these cause the spacing is 1/1? That might be a good reason, otherwise, it breaks your pattern fyi. //ye
01:47:261 (1,2) - This one definitely breaks the pattern you've seem to have set between 1:10 and 1:30 //changed
01:47:844 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Something I personally like to do with jumps like these is leave 4 in the same exact position as 1 will be for the next set. This gives a sense of stop for time and also feels really good to play. consider it. It might give more structure to the jumps as well. //i know, i just like changin a bit from the normal
01:54:397 (4) - Maybe if you mean to follow the pattern you set for slightly offset hit circle positions, move 4 a bit to the bottom right so it compliments the previous 2 circles? //no need for that honestly, player wont tell the diffrence anyway, so stacking it and thats it
02:03:718 (4) - Same with this one, what if you do it with the next 1 circle? 02:04:300 (1) - //would be too much spaced for the next note
02:06:630 (2) - I think if you moved this under the slider in stead of making a super wide jump it'd be smoother to play and more intuitive //which slider

update

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zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2017-12-31T16:47:18+00:00

Insane

applied some didnt apply some kinda busy atm will mod your map in 2days

bob80905

151 posts

Joined June 2015

bob80905 2017-12-31T17:59:06+00:00

Sorry, Starset, I meant 02:05:902 (5) - for the last point, move the circle to the left or under this slider for easy and intuitive jumps

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2017-12-31T18:46:36+00:00

bob80905 wrote:
Sorry, Starset, I meant 02:05:902 (5) - for the last point, move the circle to the left or under this slider for easy and intuitive jumps

i wanna keep the back and forth movement to match the song

tochiii

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

tochiii 2018-01-02T14:18:47+00:00

here it is

https://puu.sh/ySGJ5/7df6d3720c.osu

osu file format v14

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Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2018-01-03T11:54:17+00:00

hitsounds update

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: nevereverland.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 111047
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
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[Editor]
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[Metadata]
Title:Nevereverland
TitleUnicode:Nevereverland
Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Starset's Extra
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24
BeatmapID:1507079
BeatmapSetID:621438

[Difficulty]
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Skylish

1,069 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2018-01-04T14:47:18+00:00

The map owner asked me to do a few testplays on the taiko set, here's the summary of my feedback to Nifty:

1. Wrong barline setting:

> 01:31:533 - this is a new section yes, but it looks so poorly. The music extents from 01:31:387 - and does not show a distinct cut at 01:31:533 - . So you can omit this barline.

2. Spread issue:

The difficulty spread is poor across all 3 taiko difficulties. It is told very obviously already in the no. of objects.

Just simply removing or adding notes based on Oni does not work on Muzukashii or Inner Oni respectively. You must work on them individually considering the use of pattern and density spread via following different mapping channels, under different mapping rationales and emphases.

! Muzukashii should have more 1/2 breaks, the current 1/2 patterns are exactly the same of Oni. It is not okay....

! Inner Oni could contain more stream patterns to enrich the exciting tension of the music.

3. Uses of SV

! If you have SV Oni and SV Inner Oni, Muzukashii should only have light and necessary SV changes only, or even without any SVs. It makes sense to provide a real easier difficulty among the whole Taiko set. Talking about the SVs in Muzukashii, they are too vigorous, and should not be tolerated in Muzukashii level. In Oni and Inner Oni, you can more or less fine-tune the SV changes to show a progression of them respectively.

> The SV changes are questionable: 01:04:154 - / 01:32:115 - they should not share the same value of SV because of their different tensions. It is so weird now, the SVs are mismatch for 0.8x in drum-set-available sections. Simple 1.0x is good enough, for progressive SVs, you can use 1.0x+ method to express it. 1.0x+ (<1.15x perhaps) is acceptable for BPM=206.

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A small reminder on the 1366*651 resolution Taiko BG, 1366*768 is the recommended one. (Full HD is always welcome)

You must get mods to fix the above mentioned stuff first before you try to reach BNs' checks.

Nifty

902 posts

Joined September 2014

Nifty 2018-01-04T20:47:48+00:00

yeah I kinda shit out these diffs without thinking of them (at the time, this set hadn't had mods for like 5 months.)

Guess I'll actually take a look.

dunno why owner called bn without having mods.

I never noticed that redline issue, I didn't analyze what zhu gave me, anyways. I mean, the sv are even off because I first mapped two diffs with 1.8x base sv instead of 1.4 cause I didn't notice xd

~~how the hell did you get here so fast anyways~~

Nifty

902 posts

Joined September 2014

Nifty 2018-01-05T02:47:11+00:00

I'll post them here.

Fixed... everything lmao

muzu

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Nifty

902 posts

Joined September 2014

Nifty 2018-01-05T02:47:40+00:00

double post, first post had 900 too many characters lmao

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bezbashn

182 posts

Joined June 2015

bezbashn 2018-01-05T10:48:53+00:00

[Insane]
00:56:290 (5) - Maybe put this with 00:57:601 in a stack ?
01:01:242 (6,7,9) - Maybe it's just me, but for aesthetics look out for things like that

01:10:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Looks perfect centered, but it's not

02:00:076 - I'd make this stream one of this shapes

[Starset's Extra]
00:44:931 (4) - NC perhaps ?
01:50:610 - This piano sound is last and it goes longer than just a single note. Would like it to be made as a slider to 01:50:756

[-Tochi's Extra]
00:03:734 (6,1) - Stack them for the greater good
00:04:934 (3,4) - These two are in contrast of previous two. You need player to realise that there is a time gap between them. Space them a bit
00:13:334 (8) - All previous sounds are going lower but you've emphasized just this one with bigger spacing. Make all circles increase/decrease spacing between each other or don't do anything.
00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - No practical use of NC. All sounds are the same. Also there is no sudden change in music.
01:14:057 (1,3) - Since this difficulty is extra i guess placing it this way is okay. Just decided to mention.

Then there are just repeating things

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-05T10:57:40+00:00

bezbashn wrote:
[Insane]
00:56:290 (5) - Maybe put this with 00:57:601 in a stack ? fixed
01:01:242 (6,7,9) - Maybe it's just me, but for aesthetics look out for things like that fixed

01:10:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Looks perfect centered, but it's not fixed

02:00:076 - I'd make this stream one if this shapes made straight

Narcissu

1,744 posts

Joined August 2012

Narcissu 2018-01-05T11:45:40+00:00

General

try use 192kbps mp3 .
and i think clips will be better than fade out, simple example: http://puu.sh/yUJ3u/fc3fddef32.mp3
01:51:338 - need‘t red line?

Redemption

00:02:134 (2,3) - NC same as 00:08:534 (2,1) - ?
00:10:534 (1,2,3) - i dislike stacking in downbeat lol, i will jump here as your “add whistle” 00:10:934 (2,3) - 00:11:534 (4,5) - http://puu.sh/yUJf1/ad457cf5fa.jpg
00:18:734 - maybe you follow voice, but i suggest add note here 。and 00:16:934 (2) - 1/1 better imo
00:40:854 (1,2,3) - 01:26:290 (7,8,9) - 01:29:786 (5,6,7) - it's really bad, 3hit before downbeat is common sense of music. if you want to add 3hit, should be like 01:43:038 (4,5,1) - 02:00:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - under normal conditions

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-05T12:19:15+00:00

Narcissu wrote:
General
try use 192kbps mp3 . alright
and i think clips will be better than fade out, simple example: http://puu.sh/yUJ3u/fc3fddef32.mp3 I will consider this
01:51:338 - need‘t red line? fixed

Redemption
00:02:134 (2,3) - NC same as 00:08:534 (2,1) - ? fixed
00:10:534 (1,2,3) - i dislike stacking in downbeat lol, i will jump here as your “add whistle” 00:10:934 (2,3) - 00:11:534 (4,5) - http://puu.sh/yUJf1/ad457cf5fa.jpg fixed
00:18:734 - maybe you follow voice, but i suggest add note here 。and 00:16:934 (2) - 1/1 better imo it is better this way
00:40:854 (1,2,3) - 01:26:290 (7,8,9) - 01:29:786 (5,6,7) - it's really bad, 3hit before downbeat is common sense of music. if you want to add 3hit, should be like 01:43:038 (4,5,1) - 02:00:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - under normal conditions fixed one

ailv

403 posts

Joined August 2015

ailv 2018-01-05T14:07:00+00:00

General Stuff

fix ur slider colours/borders and stuff, they're not the same across all diffs.

Check these hs they have >5ms delay

drum-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap2.wav
normal-hitclap4.wav

Redemption

00:09:334 (1,2,3,1) - spacing is too large, even though it's 1/1 compare to earlier 00:02:134 (2,1) - , 00:04:934 (3,4) - or 00:06:534 (6,1) -
00:07:334 (1,2) - flow is bad here, 00:08:534 (2) - nudge this over so it's in line with the exit of 1

00:13:734 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - all of this is kind of bad rhythm wise, i'd use more filler rhythm, cause as it stands the entire background is being ignored in favour of the vocals, and that's not emphasized well either
for example, 00:16:334 (1) - begins on a piano, and misses the big vocal tick here. Try not to mix instrument like this, it doesn't work well.
00:19:734 (3,4) - Certain spacings are also really low :c you lose a lot of emphasis this way.

00:40:926 (2) - theres no note here.00:40:999 (3,4) - stack 4 under 3? i dont think there's enough reason for there to be much movement here, 4 isn't a very strong note.

00:42:164 (3,4) - spacing is too large, this note has no drum it's just a muted string. 00:42:455 (4,5) - needs more spacing since there is a drum

00:43:766 (1,2,3,4) - this isn't 1/4 it's 1/4 rhythm, 2 and 4 are mapped to nothing at all. 00:43:620 (4,1) - This low angle and spacing is very awkward to play.

00:46:679 (1,2) - spacing is too low

00:50:174 (2) - rhythm starting here is wonky. I'd recommend checking to make sure strong sounds are clickable and weak sounds aren't. The current way seems abstract and it's difficult to identify the instrument each note is mapped to, there's not really much consistency. Some examples below:
00:50:465 (3) - should be 2 notes, 00:50:756 (4,5) - should be 1 slider
00:53:087 (4,5) - should be a slider, 00:52:795 (3) - two notes.

01:03:863 (7,8) - spacing is literally a cross-screen jump that's basically unsupported by the music whatsoever. 01:03:572 (5,6,7,8) - these 4 circles are much less intense than 01:02:989 (1,2,3,4) - but use much higher spacing.

01:07:941 (3,4,5) - Pattern like this makes no sense really. You kill any sort of spacing emphasis, they're all different sounds, and you've never done this sort of stacking before.

this section also has many issues, 01:08:815 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - rhythm wise.
01:10:271 (6,7) - should be a slider, 01:09:543 (4) - should be 2 circles.

The rhythm and spacing issues persist for the rest of the map, I'll stop on this diff for now. Feel free to ask me ingame if you need help or if you want another check later once you've replied.

-Tochi's Extra

01:31:533 (custom set number)
01:51:339 (kiai)

double green lines

00:07:284 (1,2) - is kind of misleading since, 00:09:634 (4,5) - is 1/4th rhythm.

00:15:734 (1,2,1,1,1,2) - I don't think you need nc spam here or here 00:21:934 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1) -, 00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - , it's really excessive, nc spam doesn't need to be used to make it easier to read or anything they're pretty simple patterns in a slow spot.

01:02:407 (1,2) - these have the guitar while, 01:02:698 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - don't. It'd be better to make them distinguished.

01:33:863 (1,1,1,1) - unneeded nc's 01:35:465 (1) -, 01:43:766 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - , 01:50:318 (1,1,1) -

01:52:649 (2) - stacking this really kills the emphasis

01:53:377 (5,6) - spacing feels low

very fun map c:

Last edited by ailv 2018-01-09T15:21:41+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2018-01-05T15:21:49+00:00

bezbashn wrote:
[Starset's Extra]
00:44:931 (4) - NC perhaps ? //not needed
01:50:610 - This piano sound is last and it goes longer than just a single note. Would like it to be made as a slider to 01:50:756 //i prefer keeping it

update

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zhu

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zhu 2018-01-05T18:04:42+00:00

ailv wrote:
General Stuff

fix ur slider colours/borders and stuff, they're not the same across all diffs. Intentional

Check these hs they have >5ms delay

drum-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap2.wav
normal-hitclap4.wav Took them from ranked set so it is okay

Redemption

00:09:334 (1,2,3,1) - spacing is too large, even though it's 1/1 compare to earlier 00:02:134 (2,1) - , 00:04:934 (3,4) - or 00:06:534 (6,1) - not really i am following the strong piano

00:07:334 (1,2) - flow is bad here, 00:08:534 (2) - nudge this over so it's in line with the exit of 1 fixed

00:13:734 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - all of this is kind of bad rhythm wise, i'd use more filler rhythm, cause as it stands the entire background is being ignored in favour of the vocals, and that's not emphasized well either
for example, 00:16:334 (1) - begins on a piano, and misses the big vocal tick here. Try not to mix instrument like this, it doesn't work well.
00:19:734 (3,4) - Certain spacings are also really low :c you lose a lot of emphasis this way. will try to remap this section

00:40:926 (2) - theres no note here.00:40:999 (3,4) - stack 4 under 3? i dont think there's enough reason for there to be much movement here, 4 isn't a very strong note. fixed

00:42:164 (3,4) - spacing is too large, this note has no drum it's just a muted string. 00:42:455 (4,5) - needs more spacing since there is a drum
fixed
00:43:766 (1,2,3,4) - this isn't 1/4 it's 1/4 rhythm, 2 and 4 are mapped to nothing at all. 00:43:620 (4,1) - This low angle and spacing is very awkward to play. fixed

00:46:679 (1,2) - spacing is too low fixed

00:50:174 (2) - rhythm starting here is wonky. I'd recommend checking to make sure strong sounds are clickable and weak sounds aren't. The current way seems abstract and it's difficult to identify the instrument each note is mapped to, there's not really much consistency. Some examples below:
00:50:465 (3) - should be 2 notes, 00:50:756 (4,5) - should be 1 slider
00:53:087 (4,5) - should be a slider, 00:52:795 (3) - two notes. fixed

01:03:863 (7,8) - spacing is literally a cross-screen jump that's basically unsupported by the music whatsoever. 01:03:572 (5,6,7,8) - these 4 circles are much less intense than 01:02:989 (1,2,3,4) - but use much higher spacing. fixed

01:07:941 (3,4,5) - Pattern like this makes no sense really. You kill any sort of spacing emphasis, they're all different sounds, and you've never done this sort of stacking before. trying to emphasize lyrics

this section also has many issues, 01:08:815 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - rhythm wise.
01:10:271 (6,7) - should be a slider, 01:09:543 (4) - should be 2 circles. fixed

The rhythm and spacing issues persist for the rest of the map, I'll stop on this diff for now. Feel free to ask me ingame if you need help or if you want another check later once you've replied.

YukiZura-

762 posts

Joined October 2015

YukiZura- 2018-01-06T04:06:08+00:00

q

[Reality]
00:14:934 (2) - how about replace this sldier with a note or extend it to here 00:15:334 - feels like that slider is out of place huhu
01:07:941 (3,4,5) - nc all this slider to present the velocity changes
02:01:096 (3) - tidy up pls ;-; for example

00:49:300 (1) - wait why nc here lol .. should be here 00:49:082 (7) -
00:50:174 (2,3) - i see your map use too many different slider shape , if you can pls avoid this because it makes the map look ugly (but slider map is another story xd) , if you decided with 00:50:174 (2) - this slider , 00:50:465 (3) - this slider also should be the same as the one before but difference rotation

like this for example

00:58:038 (6,1) - hurm bad transition , move the slider end to X:120 Y:148 for better transition
01:51:047 (3) - no sound

[insane]
00:34:334 (3) - remove whistle
01:14:932 (1) - nc here?
00:32:534 (8,1) - blanket this

insane look good enough xd

[normal]
00:42:601 - why break here lol ..
00:56:290 (2,1) - blanket pls
02:06:484 (3,4) - hurm should be here 02:06:193 - , to avoid comfusing new player

ok that's all ><
goodluck

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-06T07:28:54+00:00

YukiZura- wrote:
q

[Reality]
00:14:934 (2) - how about replace this sldier with a note or extend it to here 00:15:334 - feels like that slider is out of place huhu
01:07:941 (3,4,5) - nc all this slider to present the velocity changes
02:01:096 (3) - tidy up pls ;-; for example

00:49:300 (1) - wait why nc here lol .. should be here 00:49:082 (7) -
00:50:174 (2,3) - i see your map use too many different slider shape , if you can pls avoid this because it makes the map look ugly (but slider map is another story xd) , if you decided with 00:50:174 (2) - this slider , 00:50:465 (3) - this slider also should be the same as the one before but difference rotation
like this for example
00:58:038 (6,1) - hurm bad transition , move the slider end to X:120 Y:148 for better transition
01:51:047 (3) - no sound

[insane]
00:34:334 (3) - remove whistle
01:14:932 (1) - nc here?
00:32:534 (8,1) - blanket this

insane look good enough xd

[normal]
00:42:601 - why break here lol ..
00:56:290 (2,1) - blanket pls
02:06:484 (3,4) - hurm should be here 02:06:193 - , to avoid comfusing new player

ok that's all ><
goodluck

Fixed all thanks for mod

tochiii

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

tochiii 2018-01-07T19:50:45+00:00

mods

bezbashn wrote:
[-Tochi's Extra]
00:03:734 (6,1) - Stack them for the greater good this is intentionally unstacked
00:04:934 (3,4) - These two are in contrast of previous two. You need player to realise that there is a time gap between them. Space them a bit will be inconsistent if I change to your recommendation
00:13:334 (8) - All previous sounds are going lower but you've emphasized just this one with bigger spacing. Make all circles increase/decrease spacing between each other or don't do anything. listen closely, it goes like this: lower > higher
00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - No practical use of NC. All sounds are the same. Also there is no sudden change in music. This is intentional, I do this on piano parts like this
01:14:057 (1,3) - Since this difficulty is extra i guess placing it this way is okay. Just decided to mention. what

Then there are just repeating things

ailv wrote:
-Tochi's Extra

01:31:533 (custom set number) Fixed!
01:51:339 (kiai) Fixed!

double green lines

00:07:284 (1,2) - is kind of misleading since, 00:09:634 (4,5) - is 1/4th rhythm. Not a big deal imo

00:15:734 (1,2,1,1,1,2) - I don't think you need nc spam here or here 00:21:934 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1) -, 00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - , it's really excessive, nc spam doesn't need to be used to make it easier to read or anything they're pretty simple patterns in a slow spot. Those ncs are clearly intentional so I want to keep them since they're representing spacing changes in the piano parts i map with them. It's a big part of this mapping style.

01:02:407 (1,2) - these have the guitar while, 01:02:698 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - don't. It'd be better to make them distinguished. I don't follow the guitar here, it's almost hard to notice it lol. I follow the violin

01:33:863 (1,1,1,1) - unneeded nc's 01:35:465 (1) -, 01:43:766 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - , 01:50:318 (1,1,1) - Same answer as before, I don't think you know why I did this

01:52:649 (2) - stacking this really kills the emphasis Seems fine to me

01:53:377 (5,6) - spacing feels low eh

.osu update

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VINXIS

Featured Artist

3,161 posts

Joined April 2014

VINXIS 2018-01-08T07:06:46+00:00

Fucking placehodler didnt mod today cuz i was eaten up by gay ass shit

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-08T07:12:23+00:00

Mishima Yurara wrote:
Fucking placehodler didnt mod today cuz i was eaten up by gay ass shit

it is okay just mod it today ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Djulus

Beatmap Nominator

586 posts

Joined September 2014

Djulus 2018-01-09T17:15:18+00:00

last
00:39:334 (1) - nc
00:40:999 (2,3) - stacking on 1/4 so weirdly imo
01:07:941 (7,8,9) - that part needs more ds cuz this pattern looks weird imo
02:13:474 (11) - nc
02:13:620 (1) - it would be better if you put spinnner on blue tick
tochi
00:49:591 (1,2) - overlap,that stack will be plays very weird imo if you did stack on like 01:10:417 (2,3) -
01:10:417 (2,3) - it would be better if you make better flow for this pattern
01:39:397 (3) - this reverse follows "nothing" not instrumental not vocal, 1/1 slider better imo
02:14:348 (1,3) - nc?
starset
best
but 00:49:883 (6) - why nc, on this moment didn't have big sound imo
insane
00:54:252 (6,8) - what about unstack 00:54:398 (7,9) - and pls nerf ds, too far for insane
00:58:621 (5,6) - same with ds
01:19:592 (6) - replace this circle on left side for better flow cuz ds looks weirdly
01:54:250 (4) - same with ds
verY
01:43:183 (1,2) - what with ds,its should be better if you do for this same ds like 01:47:843 (1,2) - (i mean you should fix ds on slow part cuz looks weirdly for me)
01:51:775 (2,3) - idk but you should fix ds uwu.
nice diff btw
victor
01:51:339 (9) - ctrl+g? cuz big sound+better flow
02:05:902 (3) - why 3/4? would be better if you use 1/2 for some aesthetics
normal
00:21:934 (3,4) - fix ds
this diff needs more aesthetics patterns not a just 1/4 jumps for example use some 1/2 sliders
easy
clean

Namki

1,281 posts

Joined November 2014

Namki 2018-01-09T17:46:03+00:00

[Redemption]

00:04:534 - / 00:05:734 - / 00:06:334 - / etc - they're giving too much feedback to player but there's no even a sound. I suggest you to silence sliderends.
00:30:334 (4) - you are undermapping vocals right now, by judging the entire section I could say that you're prioritizing vocals over instrumentals and sometimes when vocals end you map according to instrumental. It's decent rhythm choice but this certain pattern breaks this idea. Consider replacing it with a circle on red tick and a 1/2 slider on white tick.
00:40:999 (2,3) - pretty emphasis lacking pattern. 00:41:290 - music here is quite prominent for being understacked with a slider. Something like that would fit.
00:43:038 (10) - don't you think it's too way prominent to have it that unemphasized? This sound is outstading and spacing should be so. Consider making spacing bigger for better emphasis.
00:44:349 (5,6) - stack isn't something good to play here, you stop cursor movement and also it goes sorta inconsistent.
00:54:252 (9,10,11,12) - music kinda changes here, bigger spacing for better emphasis?
00:57:601 (2,3,4) - spacing looks pretty illogical. 00:57:747 - it has more prominent sound under than this 00:57:892 - so the first circle should've spaced more than the second.
01:21:922 (2,1,2,1) - flow is really uncomfortable here. Angle suddenly becomes too wide here 01:22:067 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - and it makes little sense as well. There are no sounds to change flow angle in this way. Consider making angle less wide, you can do it simply move this circle 01:22:212 (2) - somewhere down this circle 01:21:922 (2) - . Furthermore, if you make that jump bigger it would emphasize music better. For instance, https://namki.s-ul.eu/F0MKmd2D.jpg .
Okay, I will summarize my main concern for this diff. It's spacing emphasis. As I said earlier, map lacks it. Also, your map is pretty "generic" as they say so logic here is something about "more prominent sound - more spacing" and sometimes you are following this logic but sometimes you do not. Try to make it more consistent. Some examples: 01:23:815 (6) - it's like the peak of measure and beat is kinda audible, 01:25:417 (5) - too prominent for being stacked, 01:30:951 (4,5,6,7) - the same, 01:53:669 (3,4) - the same (but some stackes are perfectly fitting, I only pointed out these which had prominent sound on the second circle), etc. I think you've got my idea.
01:26:582 (5,6) - I'm quite satisfied with this one but you may like to follow 1/2 here, instead. Because these sound are kinda outstanding and they appear like only one time per part, so. Arguable. Try to recieve feedback on this.
01:41:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - that's soooo inaudible. Mind explaining what are you following there?
01:45:441 (6,7) - minor. Maybe try to avoid overlap?
01:51:047 (3) - this circle makes no sense at all. There's no music so I assume you were following vocals but how about this 01:51:193 - it has vocals, too! Consider either deleting this circle or add one more at 01:51:193 - .

[-Tochi's Xtra]

Just compare 00:51:630 - with 00:51:921 - , from my side they sounds pretty similar but spacing is very different, consider making it more consistent.
00:56:873 (7) - mhm, piano is something outstanding for this part so it would be logical to have this circle spaced more. Like, something of this kind https://namki.s-ul.eu/O4Fywng8.jpg . And NC to emphasize it even more.
00:59:057 (7,1) - do you think that harsh broken flow is played in a good way after pretty dense 1/4 part? Try ctrl+H out. Maybe you like it more but it's discussable, though.
00:59:931 (3,5) - perfectl stack feels out of the context. Pretty inconsistent, you haven't done it before for this part so consider making it that way 00:53:087 (4,5,6) -
01:27:019 (7) - I don't really like smaller spacing here, it make little sense to me. Instrumentals are quite prominent.
It seems like some kind of idea if yours but I disagree with these stacks 01:52:504 (1,2) - and 02:01:824 (1,2) - it's the new measure and vocals are too way strong.я

[Starset's Xtra]

00:47:261 (5,6,7) - my concern here is in lack of spacing emphasis. Each of them require more spacing 00:47:261 (5,6) - too way outstanding and strong sounds. And this needs less spacing 00:47:553 (7) - because this sound is weaker than 00:47:261 (5,6) - so having it spaced more makes little sense.
00:48:135 (2,3,4) - back'n'forth jumps with 00:48:426 (4,5,6,7) - triangle jumps do not work here as you wanted. Angles are too way different and it makes it looks kinda messy and break the flow. I'd want to move my cursor back to 00:48:281 (3) - after hitting 00:48:426 (4) - but you have wide triangle after narrow one.
00:49:009 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe use bigger spacing? Music is pretty dense so it's quite logical.
00:52:213 (7,1,2,3) - as I already said, 00:52:504 - new measure so bigger spacing is the best choice here. That would be a waste of time and energy if I point all patterns like this one, so I'll point few of them and you decide whether listen to me or not.
01:14:057 (3,4,5) - acceleration looks pretty senseless here, this 01:14:349 - sound isn't really that important to prioritize it over these 01:14:057 (3,4) - .
01:51:630 (2) - if something like that was fine before the kiai section then now it sounds kinda lacking some emphasis. Sound is too way prominent for being stacked. The same goes for 02:00:950 - and others like these two.
02:06:484 (1,2) - small spacing out of nowhere. Music isn't meant to be either calm or have less density, this requires more emphasis for sure.

[Insane]

Okay, I've pointed that quite few but 00:43:039 (1) - this sounds pretty weird, having such strong sound understacked isn't the best way of emphasizing things. The soulution would be simply unstack and make jump to that prominent sound.
00:45:514 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - nice triangles but they kinda cover theirselves and it goes visually unpleasant. Consider just placing it a bit right every time new triangle appear. Like that https://namki.s-ul.eu/52alsRvY.jpg
00:47:407 - it defenitely has kinda audible sound.
And as I've pointed again 00:48:282 (2) - density is starting to rise and having small spacing makes little sense. If you had spacing acceleration
01:01:242 (6,7,8,9) - it would be spacing-wise correct to make it that way because each of 01:01:387 (7,8,9) - have the same sound and the different one is 01:01:242 - .
01:15:223 (2,3,4,5,1) - you are decelerating spacing which doesn't make sense at all, I agree with bigger spacing here 01:15:223 (2,3) - because of snare but 01:15:806 (1) - defenitely needs more spacing. Alright, I will not write just timestamps with "bigger spacing due to prominency" or "less spacing because of weakness". Will point out few patterns and you'll decide if you find my point of view correct. 01:20:465 - bigger due to prominency, 01:24:834 - the same, 01:53:376 (5,6) - bigger spacing because of vocals and less spacing makes little sense as music didn't become less strong, etc. You've got what I mean.
01:22:359 (8) - NC because of other instrument is introduced.
01:51:339 (1,3) - minor. It's overlapping just by one pixel, move it pleease?

[Very Hard]

If higher difficulties were finу with NC here I recommend you to place NC every new measure, it's quite hard to deal with combo of 8 in Hard.
01:16:095 (2) - rhythm seems weird. Vocals are 1/2 as well as instrumentals, consider replacing with two 1/2 sliders.
Spacing to 01:16:678 (3) - is too way small, you had 1.7x with 1/2 gap but this one looks like 1/2 pattern instead of 1/1. So, ye, bigger spacing for sure.
01:18:718 - mhm, this sudden rhythm change isn't really a good idea, try to fill this with objects. Also, spacing there as for 1/2 gap but you have there 3/4 gap.
01:24:834 (1,2) - switch NC. Also, they seem to correalte with each other but music is too different. Try differen slidershapes or angles.
01:50:319 (1) - you express this piano in the same way as 01:47:843 (1) - / 01:48:717 (1) - / etc. - so this rhythm-wise lacking, try just 3 circles with something about 1.2x spacing, istead.
The rhythm in kiai is something I disagree with. So, why is this kiai? Because it's a chrous and it's music apogee but rhythm is undermapping both vocals and intrumentals also rhythms have too way little density. Also, spacing is even smaller than in non-kiai parts. I highly recommend you to reconsider kiai part fully with dense enough patterns and with logical spacing.

[Victor's Hard]

I don't really know if this concern of mine is that solid here since it's Hard and it's not supposed to be complex and reflect music by 100 percent but still. 00:46:824 (1,2) - it's stacked and 00:46:824 - stronger than 00:46:970 - so it's logical to stack these but on the other hand 00:47:407 (4,5) - music is pretty the same for 00:47:407 - and 00:47:553 - (I would even say 00:47:553 - is more prominent) so it lacks logic. The same here 00:52:358 (4,5) - it's even the new measure. I suggest you to keep some of the stacks and remove stacks on that prominent sounds.
00:49:591 (6) - that's too obvious issue as for me. Replace it?
01:01:679 - want to see a circle here.
Maybe NC every 01:48:717 (3) - / 01:49:591 (5) - / 01:50:319 (7) - and 01:51:047 (8) - . The last two ones defenitely should be NC'd and 01:51:339 (9,1) - switched NC for sure.
01:50:319 (7) - the same concern as for Very Hard. You expressed it in the same way as 01:47:844 (1) - / 01:48:717 (3) - and 01:49:591 (5) - so maybe circles for variety.

[Normal]

I am not really sure if this recover time is enough 01:01:970 (1) - for 206 bpm.
01:20:466 (1,2) - and 01:47:261 (3,1) - stacks appear only twice per diff. It's really better to remove them as they do not go consistently so it's hard to handle with sudden stacks.

[Easy]

00:52:504 (1,1) - yup, it's noticeable ingame. Try to avoid?
01:40:853 (1,2) - I heard it is not the best idea to make comoplex slidershapes as these in easy. Consider making path more linear.

gl~

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2018-01-10T14:03:31+00:00

Djulus wrote:
starset
best
but 00:49:883 (6) - why nc, on this moment didn't have big sound imo //better for reading cuz there a 1/1 pause

Namki wrote:
[Starset's Xtra]
00:47:261 (5,6,7) - my concern here is in lack of spacing emphasis. Each of them require more spacing 00:47:261 (5,6) - too way outstanding and strong sounds. And this needs less spacing 00:47:553 (7) - because this sound is weaker than 00:47:261 (5,6) - so having it spaced more makes little sense. //just fyi but sliders are easier to hit than circles so they may be more spaced but the effort to reach it is easier than for circles but tryed adjusting it anyway
00:48:135 (2,3,4) - back'n'forth jumps with 00:48:426 (4,5,6,7) - triangle jumps do not work here as you wanted. Angles are too way different and it makes it looks kinda messy and break the flow. I'd want to move my cursor back to 00:48:281 (3) - after hitting 00:48:426 (4) - but you have wide triangle after narrow one. //idk how it is a problem
00:49:009 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe use bigger spacing? Music is pretty dense so it's quite logical. //every pattern in my maps is related to each other stacks and overlaps etc...i kinda like my positioning so we'll see for now
00:52:213 (7,1,2,3) - as I already said, 00:52:504 - new measure so bigger spacing is the best choice here. That would be a waste of time and energy if I point all patterns like this one, so I'll point few of them and you decide whether listen to me or not. //maybe its a new measure but if u listen the violin gets more intense after thats why i chose to make a build up
01:14:057 (3,4,5) - acceleration looks pretty senseless here, this 01:14:349 - sound isn't really that important to prioritize it over these 01:14:057 (3,4) - .//i prioritize drums (claps) thats why it has more spacing
01:51:630 (2) - if something like that was fine before the kiai section then now it sounds kinda lacking some emphasis. Sound is too way prominent for being stacked. The same goes for 02:00:950 - and others like these two. //keepin it consistent i dont wanna change it a 3rd time since it was already diffrent in the piano section
02:06:484 (1,2) - small spacing out of nowhere. Music isn't meant to be either calm or have less density, this requires more emphasis for sure. //2 dosent need much spacing theres nothing to emphasize on it and making everything very spaced just because the song is not calm isnt an option btw

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_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

_Meep_ 2018-01-10T17:33:02+00:00

From Meep's Love Live Modding Queue!

redemption

00:16:934 (3) - NC?
00:20:134 (4,1) - Swap NC and add NC on 00:21:534 (2) - ?
00:32:934 (1) - NC this i guess, plays and seems better.
00:40:854 - This parts' NCs are pretty long honestly, and it kinda looks bad imo. Look 01:04:154 - here and you can see you NCed every big white tick or notable vocal sound that introduced another part. Why not use the same NCing as the later part in the early parts of the song? The NCing in this song is really messy tbh.
01:07:941 (7,8,9) - honestly there wouldnt be any emphasis on any of them since the players would just be resting their cursors on the sliderheads ._. this would only work if they were 3/4s.
01:11:145 (7) - NC this, why is the NCing different from 01:05:174 - ?
01:20:465 (6) - NC cause of loud sound
01:21:631 (2) - The jump part should start here, why is it that it starts on 01:21:485 (1) - ? Looking from 01:21:630 - the ncing pattern should also be something like

01:23:815 (6) - why is this not NCed when 01:25:853 (1) - is?
01:28:912 (1,2) - Swap NCs, it fits better.
01:45:222 (5,6,7) - This just looks bad visually, i rather you either overlap it more, or dont overlap it at all.
01:45:514 (7,4) - at least use the same slider

tochi

00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - rather than emphasising certain notes i think you should make all these have the same DS, since you're mapping to the piano which barely changes in intensity.
00:37:534 (5) - according to how you NCed different parts, i think this should be NCed too.
really nice diff, like it.

starset

gjob i cant find shit LOL

insane

00:21:534 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - why is the DS changing so inconsistently here? If you want to map the increasing volume of the piano, increase the DS gradually.
00:44:932 (1,2) - it's really hard to hit this 1/8 reverse slider without sliderbreaking, i strongly suggest you change this.
01:10:272 (1) - this shouldnt be NCed according to how you mapped the earlier parts.
01:14:932 (1) - remove NC
01:49:008 (2,1) - this overlap ._.
01:51:339 (1,3) - this too..
01:52:212 (4) - put the clap here instead of 01:52:358 (5) - , why would u clap to the vocals?
01:59:347 (4,5,6,7) - flow is really bad here, players have to move they mouse further to the bottom left after already doing it once from 5-6, its annoying to hit and i think you should fix it.
02:05:901 (5,2) - i can let this slip but u can change if u want ;/
I don't really see any consistent emphasis on notes that have claps or powerful sounds in the chorus, or actualy in the whole map. May want to look at this again and remap parts of it.

thats all for now
the spread is somewhat bad because you're going from 3* -> 3.5* -> 5* which is a pretty high jump if i do say so miyself, therefore i suggest you add in a light insane or buff the hard

Arphimigon

1,651 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2018-01-10T18:28:39+00:00

Lab Aesthetics Mod!

Results given in [x, y] formats
[-Tochi's Extra]
01:31:969 - should be placed at: [98, 233] (currently at: [99, 234]) to move in line with slider at time 01:32:115 -
02:10:999 - should be placed at: [134, 205] (currently at: [138, 208]) to blanket slider body at time 02:10:562 -
[Cordi's Easy]
00:25:734 - should be placed at: [117, 235] (currently at: [118, 236]) to move in line with slider at time 00:24:534 -
[Insane]
00:47:262 - should be placed at: [191, 195] (currently at: [192, 192]) to blanket slider body at time 00:47:845 -
01:19:155 - should be placed at: [365, 190] (currently at: [360, 192]) to blanket slider body at time 01:19:738 -
02:01:969 - should be placed at: [339, 107] (currently at: [336, 104]) to blanket slider body at time 02:02:260 -
02:08:522 - should be placed at: [216, 122] (currently at: [220, 124]) to blanket slider body at time 02:08:668 -
[Normal]
Nothing Detected!
[Redemption]
01:44:348 - should be placed at: [399, 255] (currently at: [400, 256]) to move in line with slider at time 01:44:786 -
01:52:504 - should be placed at: [193, 139] (currently at: [194, 138]) to move in line with slider at time 01:52:940 -
[Starset's Extra]
02:08:669 - should be placed at: [65, 33] (currently at: [66, 32]) to move in line with slider at time 02:09:105 -
02:09:397 - should be placed at: [65, 33] (currently at: [66, 32]) to move in line with slider at time 02:09:105 -
02:09:979 - should be placed at: [326, 199] (currently at: [327, 200]) to move in line with slider at time 02:09:688 -
[Very Hard]
01:00:951 - should be placed at: [71, 239] (currently at: [72, 240]) to move in line with slider at time 01:01:241 -
[Victor's Hard]
00:09:734 - should be placed at: [439, 191] (currently at: [440, 192]) to move in line with slider at time 00:10:134 -
00:16:734 - should be placed at: [119, 215] (currently at: [120, 216]) to move in line with slider at time 00:16:934 -
01:21:339 - should be placed at: [232, 171] (currently at: [232, 168]) to blanket slider body at time 01:20:902 -
Stacked stuff will likely be off, so if those give wrong results, you can ignore those.

tochiii

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

tochiii 2018-01-10T20:13:27+00:00

mods

Djulus wrote:
tochi
00:49:591 (1,2) - overlap,that stack will be plays very weird imo if you did stack on like 01:10:417 (2,3) - It's 2 different sections, so it's fine imo
01:10:417 (2,3) - it would be better if you make better flow for this pattern I like the current flow more
01:39:397 (3) - this reverse follows "nothing" not instrumental not vocal, 1/1 slider better imo It's used to hold the vocal, seems rankable to be tbh
02:14:348 (1,3) - nc? ok

Namki wrote:
[-Tochi's Xtra]
Just compare 00:51:630 - with 00:51:921 - , from my side they sounds pretty similar but spacing is very different, consider making it more consistent. Same sound, but different notes, it gets higher pitch = bigger spacing.
00:56:873 (7) - mhm, piano is something outstanding for this part so it would be logical to have this circle spaced more. Like, something of this kind https://namki.s-ul.eu/O4Fywng8.jpg . And NC to emphasize it even more. I think current placement is fine tbh
00:59:057 (7,1) - do you think that harsh broken flow is played in a good way after pretty dense 1/4 part? Try ctrl+H out. Maybe you like it more but it's discussable, though. I don't think, i know :p. I tested it before leaving it like this, and I liked it.
00:59:931 (3,5) - perfectl stack feels out of the context. Pretty inconsistent, you haven't done it before for this part so consider making it that way 00:53:087 (4,5,6) - fixed!
01:27:019 (7) - I don't really like smaller spacing here, it make little sense to me. Instrumentals are quite prominent. The spacing is big here though 01:26:727 (5,6) -
It seems like some kind of idea if yours but I disagree with these stacks 01:52:504 (1,2) - and 02:01:824 (1,2) - it's the new measure and vocals are too way strong.я No need to change this concept imo

_Meep_ wrote:
00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - rather than emphasising certain notes i think you should make all these have the same DS, since you're mapping to the piano which barely changes in intensity. Basically the piano gets more heavy, and the vocal gets lower, so making it certain by NCing seems fine to me
00:37:534 (5) - according to how you NCed different parts, i think this should be NCed too. Fixed!
really nice diff, like it. thanks!

Arphimigon wrote:
[-Tochi's Extra]
01:31:969 - should be placed at: [98, 233] (currently at: [99, 234]) to move in line with slider at time 01:32:115 - Stacking it normally seems better to me
02:10:999 - should be placed at: [134, 205] (currently at: [138, 208]) to blanket slider body at time 02:10:562 - Fixed!

Thanks for the mods everyone!

.osu update

osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 111047
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Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24
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Kaitjuh

860 posts

Joined December 2012

Kaitjuh 2018-01-11T00:04:52+00:00

Mod 4 Ticket from queue

Redemption

00:14:934 (2) - would be nicer if you mapped this with a circle + 1/2 slider so both vocal syllables are clickable, kinda like 00:21:334 (1,2) -
00:34:134 (2,3,4) - imo theres no reason for sv to suddenly be this large, there are no discernible changes in the music to warrant double sv. I recommend keeping it at 0.5 or 0.75.
00:37:334 - Since you kinda map both the piano and vocal, you should probably map the loud piano sound here as well.
00:38:334 - ^less intense but significant enough
00:37:534 (4) - when playing with SV changes, use NC's to indicate changes in the sv to help with readability.
You seem to skip the NC on the downbeat occasionally, but you still NC the downbeat properly in other places like 00:44:931 (1) - 00:47:844 (1) - . Stay consistent with this please and NC every big white tick.
00:59:349 (6,1) - quite an awkward angle to be playing that slider with. I would suggest placing it elsewhere since stacking on 00:59:349 (6) - doesnt do it much good atm.
01:09:543 (4,5) - stacks work better if they're mapped on less significant sounds in the music. You've done this properly in previous pattern, but here, one of the two is a vocal sound so that should deserve a bit of movement for emphasis. I recommend stacking (4) on (3) instead of (5) for this reason.
01:13:475 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is kinda meh since it doesnt really represent the music/the part youre focusing a lot, and if you want to map the drums, the vocal is still just as strong as the times you chose to focus the vocals over drums, so that doesnt really make sense to me from a mapping perspective. I would recommend using sliders for the vocal sounds and circles for drums like you did in the other parts.
01:41:872 (5,6) - Ctrl+G the rhythm here, so the vocal lands on the sliderhead like the others.
01:51:338 - any reason why the sampleset is completely different in the kiai? The custom hitnormals suddenly disappeared which I noticed during my testplay.
01:57:892 (2,3) - Ctrl+G the rhythm for vocal priority
02:01:096 (3,4) - ^

-Tochi's Extra

00:05:334 (4) - the slight unstack is really minor here. I would suggest either fully stacking or moving it further, but since you mostly stacked fully this might have been a stacking error.
00:16:134 (1,1,1) - not a big fan of the NC spam here. Doesn't really indicate a change in music so its just kinda lol
meh minor stuff, imo i dont really understand the rhythm choices a lot since to me, you dont seem to focus certain things in the music with your slider(head) usage xd

Starset's Extra

00:26:434 (8,1) - DS error?
00:52:504 (1) - move further away for emphasis of the cymbal?
not much to point out

I'll poke you back soon, since I only modded three, you could look at the top three diffs of my map as well

Good luck o/

rew0825

1,290 posts

Joined March 2013

rew0825 2018-01-11T10:32:44+00:00

Hello from my modding queue!

Nifty's Inner Oni

00:02:934 (5,6,7,8,9) - How about change this to d kdk d? for consistency with 00:09:334 (21,22,23,24,25) - part.
00:15:534 (40,41) - How about change to k? The sound is look high.
00:18:334 (48,49) - Ctrl+g? The sound on (48) look lower than (49).
00:23:734 (70,71,72,73) - How about change to dk dk? The sound on (70) is lower than (71). at (72,73) too.
00:37:934 (129) - How about change to k? The sound is look high.
01:45:950 (417,418,419,420,421,422) - How about change to kdddkd? I think it follow the sound is better.
01:51:046 (443,444,445) - How about change to dkD? The sound is different with 01:50:318 (440,441,442) - so I think should change the color of this.
01:54:833 (475,476,477,478,479,480) - How about change to ddkkd k? I think it's better play and flow.

Nifty's Oni

00:02:934 (5,6,7,8,9) - Same as Inner oni.
00:15:534 (39,40) - Same as Inner Oni.
00:18:334 (47,48) - Same as Inner Oni.
00:23:734 (68,69,70,71) - Same as Inner Oni.
00:51:339 (55) - Change to d? The sound is not high.
00:55:999 (85) - Same as above^.
00:58:329 (100,101,102,103) - How about change to ddd k? The steam is should start on 00:58:329 (100) - more than 00:58:475 (101) - I think.
01:46:241 (360,361,362) - How about change to d kd? I think it follow the sound is better.
01:51:046 (382,383,384) - Same as Inner Oni.

Nifty's Muzukashii

00:02:934 (4,5,6,7) - Same as Inner Oni.
00:16:334 (29) - Same as Inner Oni.
00:18:334 (36) - Same as Inner Oni.
00:25:334 (51) - Change to d? for gradually increase the sound on 00:25:334 (51,52,53) - part.
01:34:736 (235) - Change to d? I think the sound is not high.
01:51:046 (289,290,291) - Same as Inner Oni.
01:59:348 (331) - Change to d? I think on this is k too much ;w;.

Overall I think look smooth :3 That all from me, Good luck <3

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2018-01-11T23:50:30+00:00

Arphimigon wrote:
Lab Aesthetics Mod!
Results given in [x, y] formats
[Starset's Extra]
02:08:669 - should be placed at: [65, 33] (currently at: [66, 32]) to move in line with slider at time 02:09:105 -
02:09:397 - should be placed at: [65, 33] (currently at: [66, 32]) to move in line with slider at time 02:09:105 -
02:09:979 - should be placed at: [326, 199] (currently at: [327, 200]) to move in line with slider at time 02:09:688 -

i dont understand this mod at all, why should i move by literally one inch and what do u mean by "in line"

Kaitjuh wrote:
Mod 4 Ticket from queue

Starset's Extra
00:26:434 (8,1) - DS error? //made on purpose
00:52:504 (1) - move further away for emphasis of the cymbal?
not much to point out
Good luck o/

update

osu file format v14

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victorfernando

292 posts

Joined October 2016

victorfernando 2018-01-12T01:16:32+00:00

Djulus wrote:
victor
01:51:339 (9) - ctrl+g? cuz big sound+better flow
02:05:902 (3) - why 3/4? would be better if you use 1/2 for some aesthetics fixed all

PandaHero

662 posts

Joined November 2011

PandaHero 2018-01-12T16:49:02+00:00

M4m from my queue

[General]
1. Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
drum-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap2.wav

[Redemption]
00:21:934 (3,4,5) - piano here is so strong, why don't you map it as a circles?
00:34:734 (4) - ^
00:37:934 - you skip piano sound here, what about reducing slider to red tick and add note on white one?
00:43:038 (10,11) - custom clap will sounds better here imo
00:51:630 (7) - I would add nc here
01:22:213 (2,1) - I think spacing here is too small for this place
01:24:397 - missing sound again
01:26:582 (5) - ^
01:25:853 (1,2) - making 1/1 slider here is rhythmically better, you already did it here 01:23:815 (1)

[-Tochi]
00:38:534 (3,4) - making these sliders vertical with similar curve will make this pattern neat imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9988966
00:49:009 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - edgy boi. Also this 00:49:519 (4,1,2) - looks very unpleasant to play, what about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9988994
00:50:320 (2) - b-but there is no sound under this note >_<
00:52:650 (2) - ^ etc
01:20:902 (3) - 01:21:193 (4) - try ctrl+g?

[Starset]
01:14:494 (1,3) - can you move 3 slider up please? Smth like this will be cool https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9989082

nnnnice diff cant find anything else

[Insane]
Overall sv is a bit to high for insane diff

00:54:398 (7,8,9) - this angle is too big in compare to 00:53:961 (5,6,7) - , I recommend to make it similar https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9989183
00:56:583 (6,7) - and 00:56:874 (8,9) -what about making these jumps parallel?
01:09:981 (6) - I would like to ctrl+g this slider
01:19:592 (6) - overlap, reeeeee
01:24:252 (5,6,7,1,2,3) - this place looks inassurate, try to avoid overlaping patterns
02:05:901 (5,2) - overlap again :c

[Light Insane]
Try cs 4 maybe?
01:04:154 - 01:22:795 - too loud hs in ths part
01:36:266 (1,2,3,4,5) - wtf is that

Such spacing between 1/4 objects is super-hard for this difficulty
01:43:183 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - one-pixel overlaps REEEE, please dont

[victorfernando]
Ah, I would recommend you to use cs 3.5-3.8 since Light Insane use 3.5

00:11:134 (4,1) - try 1/1 slider + note instead? It will fit song better imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9989278
00:57:019 (4) - this pause confused me a bit? Try to add note on red tick and 1/2 slider on white, this is how the normies map such places
01:48:717 (3,5,7,8) - nc spam to show pauses in music to people?
01:54:979 (4,5) - players on this lvl can missread this thing

[Normal]
00:47:844 (1,2,3) - why you undermapped, music here is so intense :c

[Cordi]
Please avoid of using 1/2 in the beginning of song, you have too hard rhythm in piano part

blobdash

912 posts

Joined April 2016

blobdash 2018-01-13T14:03:23+00:00

fruity's light extra

osu file format v14

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Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24
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Myxo

osu! Alumni

3,103 posts

Joined December 2012

Myxo 2018-01-13T16:21:05+00:00

Mod on highest diff for now.

[Redemption]

00:28:734 (5,6) - rather awkward flow here combined with larger spacing than usual in this section makes this part a bit odd to play. i suggest something like this (would also lead into the pattern afterwards decently): http://puu.sh/yZc6z/e92fd26bb6.jpg
00:34:134 (2,3) - you're using stacks for a lot of different things right now, so it would be better if these special sounds (two stronger piano notes) got a jump instead to set them apart. example pattern: http://puu.sh/yZcry/6ddc97d387.jpg
00:39:434 (1) - i'd end this spinner at 00:40:534 - instead. currently the transition between the sections is really confusing to play, because the short gap after the spinner leaves almost no time to react to the offset and bpm change properly. a shorter spinner like i suggest would give the player (barely) enough time to read the approach circle of the next object.
00:40:854 (1,2,3) - quite an awkward looking and flowing pattern to start off this section. since the bpm is changed the first pattern going smoothly is very important for the player to adjust the speed of tapping and aiming to the new tempo. i'd suggest something like this: http://puu.sh/yZcFg/0a66cbd2a5.jpg or another pattern entirely.
01:14:931 (4) - as i already mentioned ingame briefly, this rhythm is weird since the slider skips over the vocal you are trying to follow. moving it a halfbeat backwards would help, something like this: http://puu.sh/z0ajX/92829e4f3d.jpg
01:21:485 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - why are there such huge jumps here? they don't really fit this part, especially since the next section is very intense so it needs some contrast to the previous section. it would be nice if you could nerf the spacing here.
01:43:183 (1,2,3,4,5) - these jumps also feel too large for such a calm part. i'd recommend having low spacing for 01:43:183 (1,2,3) - and then nerf the jumps afterwards a bit, though they are not as bad because it's all sliders.
02:05:902 (5,1) - the transition between these objects flows unintuitively, because 02:05:610 (3,4,5) - implies going further up afterwards because of the implied cursor movement. i would suggest to rearrange this pattern 02:06:193 (1,2,3,4,5) - somehow like this: http://puu.sh/yZdeb/30eac5e5c2.jpg
the diff improved a lot from when i've first seen it, good job.

[]

Some additional things to mention in the other diffs:

[-Tochi's Extra]

00:38:934 (4,1) - i wonder why you ignore the 1/4 in the background here? since you have followed the same sounds with streams earlier in this section
00:39:434 (1) - same as on the top diff, i highly recommend to make this spinner shorter
main thing that's bothering me about this diff is the use of soft-hitclap11 or soft-hitclap10 (basically every clap that uses the original skin's normal-hitnormal sample) together with a normal-hitnormal (fore example 00:49:009 (1) - 00:49:300 (1) - 00:50:465 - etc.). you should never play the same sample twice at a time, it sounds like one of them has a slight delay and it also gets really noisy. same applies for Starset's diff since it uses the same hitsounding.

[Light Insane]

00:16:134 - i'd recommend adding a circle here since it currently feels a bit empty, and having the whole emphasis on red ticks doesn't really fit this part either
01:16:095 (2,3,4) - feels weird to have the same spacing for 1/1 and 1/2 here, move 01:16:678 (3) - further downwards?
01:18:718 - add a circle here, since the current gap feels really empty and it's the only place you are using such a gap. suggestion: http://puu.sh/z0LIP/27f1809226.jpg

[Viktor's Hard]

why is the second half of the kiai not hitsounded?
in general, the spacings seem rather messy. there's almost no consistency in spacing, which is especially noticeable in calmer parts with fewer halfbeat rhythms. examples: 00:06:534 (3,4,5,1) - 3 different spacings for the same gap here, 00:13:334 (2,3,4,1,2) - this part uses similar distances for 1/1 and 3/2-gaps, 00:19:334 (1,2) - here the 1/1-spacing is the same as the halfbeat spacing right afterwards. i'd really recommend you to clean this up a bit and try to stick to similar distances throughout, unless you want to emphasize something special or it's needed for your patterning. if you need help with this or want more explanations find me ingame
00:31:734 (4,5) - seems quite out of place to have an extended slider (3/4-slider) here, since you don't use it anywhere else. turning it into a halfbeat slider would be more fitting. http://puu.sh/z0M9O/e76fbe14f4.jpg

When the hitsounding issue in the Extras and the spacing and hitsounding in the Hard is fixed up, you can try asking for a BN check imo. You've put a lot of effort into this mapset and to me, it shows. Good luck

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-13T18:18:19+00:00

Myxomatosis wrote:
Mod on highest diff for now.

[Redemption]

00:28:734 (5,6) - rather awkward flow here combined with larger spacing than usual in this section makes this part a bit odd to play. i suggest something like this (would also lead into the pattern afterwards decently): http://puu.sh/yZc6z/e92fd26bb6.jpg fixed
00:34:134 (2,3) - you're using stacks for a lot of different things right now, so it would be better if these special sounds (two stronger piano notes) got a jump instead to set them apart. example pattern: http://puu.sh/yZcry/6ddc97d387.jpg fixed
00:39:434 (1) - i'd end this spinner at 00:40:534 - instead. currently the transition between the sections is really confusing to play, because the short gap after the spinner leaves almost no time to react to the offset and bpm change properly. a shorter spinner like i suggest would give the player (barely) enough time to read the approach circle of the next object. fixed
00:40:854 (1,2,3) - quite an awkward looking and flowing pattern to start off this section. since the bpm is changed the first pattern going smoothly is very important for the player to adjust the speed of tapping and aiming to the new tempo. i'd suggest something like this: http://puu.sh/yZcFg/0a66cbd2a5.jpg or another pattern entirely. fixed
01:14:931 (4) - as i already mentioned ingame briefly, this rhythm is weird since the slider skips over the vocal you are trying to follow. moving it a halfbeat backwards would help, something like this: http://puu.sh/z0ajX/92829e4f3d.jpg fixed
01:21:485 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - why are there such huge jumps here? they don't really fit this part, especially since the next section is very intense so it needs some contrast to the previous section. it would be nice if you could nerf the spacing here. fixed
01:43:183 (1,2,3,4,5) - these jumps also feel too large for such a calm part. i'd recommend having low spacing for 01:43:183 (1,2,3) - and then nerf the jumps afterwards a bit, though they are not as bad because it's all sliders. fixed
02:05:902 (5,1) - the transition between these objects flows unintuitively, because 02:05:610 (3,4,5) - implies going further up afterwards because of the implied cursor movement. i would suggest to rearrange this pattern 02:06:193 (1,2,3,4,5) - somehow like this: http://puu.sh/yZdeb/30eac5e5c2.jpg fixed
the diff improved a lot from when i've first seen it, good job. ❤

[Light Insane]

00:16:134 - i'd recommend adding a circle here since it currently feels a bit empty, and having the whole emphasis on red ticks doesn't really fit this part either fixed
01:16:095 (2,3,4) - feels weird to have the same spacing for 1/1 and 1/2 here, move 01:16:678 (3) - further downwards? fixed
01:18:718 - add a circle here, since the current gap feels really empty and it's the only place you are using such a gap. suggestion: http://puu.sh/z0LIP/27f1809226.jpg fixed

thank you so much for the mod XD

Last edited by zhu 2018-01-13T22:10:33+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2018-01-13T19:27:59+00:00

zhu wrote:
Myxomatosis wrote:
[*]the diff improved a lot from when i've first seen it, good job. fixed

LUL

tochiii

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

tochiii 2018-01-13T19:33:34+00:00

mods

Kaitjuh wrote:
-Tochi's Extra
00:05:334 (4) - the slight unstack is really minor here. I would suggest either fully stacking or moving it further, but since you mostly stacked fully this might have been a stacking error. fixed
00:16:134 (1,1,1) - not a big fan of the NC spam here. Doesn't really indicate a change in music so its just kinda lol fixed
meh minor stuff, imo i dont really understand the rhythm choices a lot since to me, you dont seem to focus certain things in the music with your slider(head) usage xd

PandaHero wrote:
[-Tochi]
00:38:534 (3,4) - making these sliders vertical with similar curve will make this pattern neat imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9988966 not necessary imo
00:49:009 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - edgy boi. Also this 00:49:519 (4,1,2) - looks very unpleasant to play, what about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9988994 i think the stream is fine, since it's supposed to be kinda edgy
00:50:320 (2) - b-but there is no sound under this note >_< there is a slight sound, since the attack time on the violin is kinda late, you won't be able to hear it properly
00:52:650 (2) - ^ etc
01:20:902 (3) - 01:21:193 (4) - try ctrl+g? I like the current flow more

Myxomatosis wrote:
[-Tochi's Extra]

00:38:934 (4,1) - i wonder why you ignore the 1/4 in the background here? since you have followed the same sounds with streams earlier in this section fixed
00:39:434 (1) - same as on the top diff, i highly recommend to make this spinner shorter not necessary imo, since it's any extra, it can have a 1/4 distance before the next object
main thing that's bothering me about this diff is the use of soft-hitclap11 or soft-hitclap10 (basically every clap that uses the original skin's normal-hitnormal sample) together with a normal-hitnormal (fore example 00:49:009 (1) - 00:49:300 (1) - 00:50:465 - etc.). you should never play the same sample twice at a time, it sounds like one of them has a slight delay and it also gets really noisy. same applies for Starset's diff since it uses the same hitsounding. oh i think it's fine, but a bn could take a look on this instead to confirm

thanks for the mods!

.osu update

osu file format v14

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Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24
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zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-13T22:09:01+00:00

Starset wrote:
zhu wrote:
Myxomatosis wrote:
[*]the diff improved a lot from when i've first seen it, good job. fixed
LUL

fixed.

blobdash

912 posts

Joined April 2016

blobdash 2018-01-14T10:05:51+00:00

as requested,

fruity's light extra nerfed

osu file format v14

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can't go under this :c or i'll have to remap

VINXIS

Featured Artist

3,161 posts

Joined April 2014

VINXIS 2018-01-14T21:24:21+00:00

00:26:134 (4,5,6) - misplaced stack and 6 should be a new combo not 00:26:934 (1) - Tbh
00:29:534 (1,2,3) - th u should focus on putting ncs on the BNig White Ticks isntead of the heads of triples and shit Lol
should take more consideration about ur visual spacing consistency and overlaps such as 01:04:737 (3,4,1) - and 01:06:339 (6,4) - being rediculously close 2gether or 01:06:194 (5,1) - 01:09:397 (3,4,1) - having inconsistent visual overlap distance, helps make ur map much cleaner
same with using patterns together like 00:51:630 (1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:52:504 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - looks weird when u completely stack in1 pattern but only custom stack in the other pattern Lol
ur alternation between vopcals and drums is also very inconsistent (specifically in the verse, the kiai seems to be very well done rhythmically-speaking) where u alternate a few times between 1/1 and 3/4 sliders while also randomly switching between wot the 1/2 sliders and circles r mapping to as well between vocals and drums, its kinda prety really Super Weird

01:51:047 - also prety weird to just leave this when the whole kiai is mapped to the vocals
02:09:979 (7,1) - nc swap

i think the main problem is that ur visual spacing is just super inconsistent (especially with stacking), some of the ncs are done weirdly/for the sake of design instead of playability/based on the music, and rhythms in the verse are kind of whack, if u polish them up throuhgouht the whole map it could make it significantly better overall

sry 4 taking 50 yrs

Nifty

902 posts

Joined September 2014

Nifty 2018-01-14T21:25:02+00:00

reply to mod

rew0825 wrote:
Hello from my modding queue!

Nifty's Inner Oni
00:02:934 (5,6,7,8,9) - How about change this to d kdk d? for consistency with 00:09:334 (21,22,23,24,25) - part. pitch is relative to surrounding pitches, not things from 7 seconds in the future.
00:15:534 (40,41) - How about change to k? The sound is look high. maybe, but it really doesn't matter, so no change.
00:18:334 (48,49) - Ctrl+g? The sound on (48) look lower than (49). k for the similarity in voice, which is the featured sound here.
00:23:734 (70,71,72,73) - How about change to dk dk? The sound on (70) is lower than (71). at (72,73) too. Sure
00:37:934 (129) - How about change to k? The sound is look high. relatively unimportant note, shouldn't stand out as much as to use a k.
01:45:950 (417,418,419,420,421,422) - How about change to kdddkd? I think it follow the sound is better. this pattern isn't for pitch, it's for emphasis, the k's follow the more emphasized noises.
01:51:046 (443,444,445) - How about change to dkD? The sound is different with 01:50:318 (440,441,442) - so I think should change the color of this. changed to ddK
01:54:833 (475,476,477,478,479,480) - How about change to ddkkd k? I think it's better play and flow. made a change, but not this. The voice suggests every pattern starts with k.

Nifty's Oni
00:02:934 (5,6,7,8,9) - Same as Inner oni.
00:15:534 (39,40) - Same as Inner Oni.
00:18:334 (47,48) - Same as Inner Oni.
00:23:734 (68,69,70,71) - Same as Inner Oni. yes to this, no to the rest, again
00:51:339 (55) - Change to d? The sound is not high. the hihat is high
00:55:999 (85) - Same as above^. me too thanks
00:58:329 (100,101,102,103) - How about change to ddd k? The steam is should start on 00:58:329 (100) - more than 00:58:475 (101) - I think. using patterns to emphasize the end of a stream is always better than using patterns to emphasize the beginning.
01:46:241 (360,361,362) - How about change to d kd? I think it follow the sound is better. same as inner
01:51:046 (382,383,384) - Same as Inner Oni. me too thanks

Nifty's Muzukashii
00:02:934 (4,5,6,7) - Same as Inner Oni.
00:16:334 (29) - Same as Inner Oni.
00:18:334 (36) - Same as Inner Oni. me too thanks to all
00:25:334 (51) - Change to d? for gradually increase the sound on 00:25:334 (51,52,53) - part. sure
01:34:736 (235) - Change to d? I think the sound is not high. sure (1)
01:51:046 (289,290,291) - Same as Inner Oni. [b]sure (2)
01:59:348 (331) - Change to d? I think on this is k too much ;w;. supposed to retain the same amt of emphasis as did the first couple k's

Overall I think look smooth :3 That all from me, Good luck <3

muzu

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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-14T22:27:21+00:00

Mishima Yurara wrote:
00:26:134 (4,5,6) - misplaced stack and 6 should be a new combo not 00:26:934 (1) - Tbh
00:29:534 (1,2,3) - th u should focus on putting ncs on the BNig White Ticks isntead of the heads of triples and shit Lol
should take more consideration about ur visual spacing consistency and overlaps such as 01:04:737 (3,4,1) - and 01:06:339 (6,4) - being rediculously close 2gether or 01:06:194 (5,1) - 01:09:397 (3,4,1) - having inconsistent visual overlap distance, helps make ur map much cleaner
same with using patterns together like 00:51:630 (1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:52:504 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - looks weird when u completely stack in1 pattern but only custom stack in the other pattern Lol
ur alternation between vopcals and drums is also very inconsistent (specifically in the verse, the kiai seems to be very well done rhythmically-speaking) where u alternate a few times between 1/1 and 3/4 sliders while also randomly switching between wot the 1/2 sliders and circles r mapping to as well between vocals and drums, its kinda prety really Super Weird

01:51:047 - also prety weird to just leave this when the whole kiai is mapped to the vocals
02:09:979 (7,1) - nc swap

i think the main problem is that ur visual spacing is just super inconsistent (especially with stacking), some of the ncs are done weirdly/for the sake of design instead of playability/based on the music, and rhythms in the verse are kind of whack, if u polish them up throuhgouht the whole map it could make it significantly better overall

sry 4 taking 50 yrs

oh god took you long enough

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-14T22:30:36+00:00

He said it bois. I removed override and border color from all difs made no other changes.

Last edited by zhu 2018-01-15T06:01:33+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Jonarwhal

1,227 posts

Joined November 2013

Jonarwhal 2018-01-14T23:44:14+00:00

mod from queue: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/689354/start=0
[Nifteh]

Your Oni needs to be nerfed or your Inner Oni needs to be increased in some sections.
Example:
~
Preferably you nerf the Oni there. Thanks >W</~
I know I'm not seeing unsnapped notes
02:14:639 - This kiai needs to be snapped too

That's important so I'll continue later. Call me back!

Nifty

902 posts

Joined September 2014

Nifty 2018-01-15T08:43:32+00:00

snapped kiais, did nerfs to section. the rest of the diff should be fairly balanced, it looked like just the beginning was wonky

muzu

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Nifty

902 posts

Joined September 2014

Nifty 2018-01-15T08:44:58+00:00

second post for char limit

inner oni

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victorfernando

292 posts

Joined October 2016

victorfernando 2018-01-16T00:16:56+00:00

Namki wrote:
[Victor's Hard]
I don't really know if this concern of mine is that solid here since it's Hard and it's not supposed to be complex and reflect music by 100 percent but still. 00:46:824 (1,2) - it's stacked and 00:46:824 - stronger than 00:46:970 - so it's logical to stack these but on the other hand 00:47:407 (4,5) - music is pretty the same for 00:47:407 - and 00:47:553 - (I would even say 00:47:553 - is more prominent) so it lacks logic. The same here 00:52:358 (4,5) - it's even the new measure. I suggest you to keep some of the stacks and remove stacks on that prominent sounds.
00:49:591 (6) - that's too obvious issue as for me. Replace it?
01:01:679 - want to see a circle here.
Maybe NC every 01:48:717 (3) - / 01:49:591 (5) - / 01:50:319 (7) - and 01:51:047 (8) - . The last two ones defenitely should be NC'd and 01:51:339 (9,1) - switched NC for sure.
01:50:319 (7) - the same concern as for Very Hard. You expressed it in the same way as 01:47:844 (1) - / 01:48:717 (3) - and 01:49:591 (5) - so maybe circles for variety. fixed NC thing's , and changed the part of repeat, but the stack's i will see

victorfernando

292 posts

Joined October 2016

victorfernando 2018-01-16T00:37:49+00:00

PandaHero wrote:
[victorfernando]
Ah, I would recommend you to use cs 3.5-3.8 since Light Insane use 3.5 if I use low cs, space gets low so no .3.

00:11:134 (4,1) - try 1/1 slider + note instead? It will fit song better imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9989278
00:57:019 (4) - this pause confused me a bit? Try to add note on red tick and 1/2 slider on white, this is how the normies map such places
01:48:717 (3,5,7,8) - nc spam to show pauses in music to people?
01:54:979 (4,5) - players on this lvl can missread this thing
fixed all

victorfernando

292 posts

Joined October 2016

victorfernando 2018-01-16T01:14:29+00:00

Myxomatosis wrote:
[Viktor's Hard]

why is the second half of the kiai not hitsounded? (now it's hitsounded)
in general, the spacings seem rather messy. there's almost no consistency in spacing, which is especially noticeable in calmer parts with fewer halfbeat rhythms. examples: 00:06:534 (3,4,5,1) - 3 different spacings for the same gap here, 00:13:334 (2,3,4,1,2) - this part uses similar distances for 1/1 and 3/2-gaps, 00:19:334 (1,2) - here the 1/1-spacing is the same as the halfbeat spacing right afterwards. i'd really recommend you to clean this up a bit and try to stick to similar distances throughout, unless you want to emphasize something special or it's needed for your patterning. if you need help with this or want more explanations find me ingame
00:31:734 (4,5) - seems quite out of place to have an extended slider (3/4-slider) here, since you don't use it anywhere else. turning it into a halfbeat slider would be more fitting. http://puu.sh/z0M9O/e76fbe14f4.jpg
fixed all :3

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104,248,80465,2,0,L|96:312,2,55,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,224,80902,2,0,P|224:248|280:232,1,110
232,168,81339,6,0,L|240:104,1,55
328,64,81630,2,0,L|320:128,1,55
376,192,81921,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,192,82067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
440,240,82213,2,0,B|448:296|448:296|432:352,1,110
312,304,82795,6,0,L|192:288,1,110,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,320,83232,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,272,83378,2,0,B|88:208|48:208|72:144,1,110,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,104,83815,2,0,P|168:88|232:120,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,184,84252,2,0,P|296:152|304:128,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,240,84834,5,8,0:0:0:0:
192,240,84980,2,0,L|184:304,1,55,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,328,85271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,328,85417,2,0,L|96:208,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
40,159,85853,2,0,L|48:31,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,16,86290,6,0,L|200:24,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,96,86582,2,0,L|208:96,2,55,8|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,168,87164,2,0,P|376:208|376:248,1,55,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,280,87455,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,280,87601,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,328,87747,6,0,B|192:344|192:344|128:320,1,110,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,264,88184,2,0,B|120:208|80:208|104:144,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,96,88620,2,0,L|224:104,1,55
280,168,88912,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,168,89057,2,0,L|264:240,2,55,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,96,89494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,48,89640,5,0,0:0:0:0:
400,48,89786,2,0,B|416:96|416:96|392:176,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,224,90222,2,0,B|336:280|376:280|352:336,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,376,90659,2,0,P|232:368|216:360,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,304,90951,1,8,0:0:0:0:
168,304,91096,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,224,91242,2,0,P|128:184|136:152,1,55
264,152,107844,6,0,P|261:115|272:80,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,224,108280,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,296,108717,6,0,P|412:289|448:296,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,344,109154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,272,109591,6,0,P|188:305|176:344,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,200,110028,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,120,110319,5,0,0:0:0:0:
304,120,110465,2,0,P|304:176|296:192,1,55
144,200,111047,6,0,P|136:160|144:128,1,55
190,26,111339,2,0,P|191:53|184:80,1,55,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
137,146,111630,6,0,L|57:146,2,60.5000018463135,8|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,168,112067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,224,112212,2,0,L|288:312,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,320,112504,2,0,L|368:232,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,152,112795,5,8,0:0:0:0:
320,80,112940,2,0,P|272:96|192:64,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,40,113377,1,8,0:0:0:0:
136,40,113523,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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200,320,114834,1,0,0:0:0:0:
263,271,114979,2,0,L|260:197,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
335,124,115271,2,0,L|342:247,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
382,316,115707,6,0,P|417:322|447:313,1,60.5000018463135,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
477,242,115999,1,0,0:0:0:0:
437,171,116144,2,0,L|432:107,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
374,48,116436,1,2,0:0:0:0:
374,48,116581,6,0,B|326:64|326:64|246:32,1,121.000003692627,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,21,117018,2,0,L|117:45,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,103,117309,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,103,117455,2,0,B|85:155|85:155|56:239,1,121.000003692627,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
68,298,117892,5,2,0:0:0:0:
68,298,118038,2,0,L|149:299,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
206,255,118329,2,0,L|278:253,2,60.5000018463135,4|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
161,185,118766,2,0,P|145:105|177:57,1,121.000003692627,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
239,40,119203,1,8,0:0:0:0:
309,93,119348,2,0,L|389:85,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,144,119639,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,144,119785,6,0,B|448:200|448:200|424:272,1,121.000003692627,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,304,120222,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,256,120368,2,0,L|224:248,3,30.2500009231568,0|0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,248,120659,2,0,L|128:240,1,60.5000018463135,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,296,120950,1,8,0:0:0:0:
40,224,121096,2,0,L|48:88,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,48,121533,6,0,L|128:128,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,192,121824,2,0,L|208:120,1,60.5000018463135
272,72,122115,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,72,122261,2,0,B|336:88|336:88|408:64,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
459,116,122698,1,8,0:0:0:0:
460,202,122843,2,0,P|384:153|394:61,1,181.500005538941,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,8,123426,5,2,0:0:0:0:
272,72,123572,2,0,L|144:56,1,121.000003692627,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,120,124008,2,0,B|104:176|104:176|80:240,1,121.000003692627,4|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,312,124445,1,8,0:0:0:0:
48,312,124591,2,0,P|75:323|128:312,1,60.5000018463135
176,272,124882,2,0,P|240:256|304:288,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,240,125319,6,0,P|363:204|376:160,1,60.5000018463135,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,72,125610,2,0,P|444:112|436:144,1,60.5000018463135,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,104,125902,2,0,B|326:100|326:100|288:112,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,144,126193,2,0,L|216:224,1,60.5000018463135,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,272,126484,2,0,L|312:192,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,329,126775,2,0,P|312:353|368:321,1,121.000003692627,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,284,127212,5,2,0:0:0:0:
424,284,127358,2,0,L|496:284,1,60.5000018463135,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,208,127649,2,0,B|464:152|464:152|488:80,1,121.000003692627,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,40,128086,2,0,L|336:32,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,104,128377,2,0,L|248:80,1,60.5000018463135,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,104,128669,2,0,B|152:152|152:152|176:224,1,121.000003692627
240,272,129105,1,8,0:0:0:0:
240,272,129251,2,0,L|232:352,1,60.5000018463135
383,282,129688,6,0,L|388:196,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,143,129979,1,4,0:0:0:0:
287,69,130271,2,0,B|231:77|231:77|167:45,1,121.000003692627,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
94,94,130707,1,0,0:0:0:0:
94,94,130853,6,0,P|121:156|94:230,1,121.000003692627,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
75,286,131290,1,0,0:0:0:0:
75,286,131436,2,0,P|123:294|147:286,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
202,242,131727,2,0,P|233:236|273:244,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
302,317,132018,2,0,P|330:322|384:316,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
430,367,132309,2,0,P|446:311|405:244,1,121.000003692627,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
365,191,132746,6,0,B|357:151|357:151|373:63,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,37,133183,2,0,L|282:102,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,150,133474,2,0,P|158:206|178:290,2,181.500005538941,14|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
237,232,134639,1,6,0:2:0:0:

Jonarwhal

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Joined November 2013

Jonarwhal 2018-01-21T02:15:31+00:00

rawr

zhu

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Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-21T04:49:13+00:00

Jonawaga wrote:
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Shiguma

476 posts

Joined May 2014

Shiguma 2018-01-21T19:42:20+00:00

Your Neverever...

full version

zhu

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Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-21T19:55:32+00:00

Shiguma wrote:
Your Neverever...

full version

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MaridiuS

879 posts

Joined June 2014

MaridiuS 2018-01-21T23:23:38+00:00

The promised mod

[Redemption]

The rhythm in the map doesn't seem to be executed on point. At times you fully follow the prime layers like synth or vocals, but sometimes you just decide to ignore it for some drums or indistinct guitar. Here is how I think it could be improved and why with examples.

00:40:854 - In this section there is the prime bass guitar and a solo guitar. You kept following the bass guitar until 00:43:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - . In this example you switched to the solo guitar, which has a much higher pitch while the bass guitar is doing something too. Usually you'll want to switch layers when the one you were following completely settles down. Other than that high pitched guitar is left ear, bass is right ear so you have no idea how difficult it was for me to notice the change in layers. My suggestion would be to keep following bass guitar here, like make https://i.imgur.com/krSAeul.jpg this rhythm where all bass guitar sounds will be followed.
00:50:174 - The synth is making the melody in this section (we talked about what is a synth, its an electronic piano). So I assumed that the map should express that melody on point like you do on these sliders 00:50:174 (1,2,6,1,2,6) - . You should try this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/MGKXkm8.jpg because all clickable things will be only for synth rather than including not so relevant drum or guitar. You can include possible variations such as https://i.imgur.com/i7exSlW.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/Bk517o5.jpg . Applies to the whole section.
01:03:718 (6) - This note is empty, it has no sound in the song. 01:04:009 (8) - You should also consider not mapping this note so that you can give full emphasis to guitar. Vocals without any bgm, drum or guitar backup generally are really weak and mostly irrelevant to map, I think this is that case.
01:22:795 - In this section you should either follow the bass guitar or the synth. 01:25:125 - this sound is really irrelevant compared to the bass guitar and vastly different from it. By mapping both, the rhythm gets messed up, so either do https://i.imgur.com/yzjbIWq.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/Bkbe4xn.jpg. Most humans are not capable of following two different melodies at once (only the really trained ones like professional pianists), which is why I suggest you to follow one throughout. Repeats to other cases like this 01:25:999 - 01:27:455 - 01:29:494 - ..... 01:28:038 (6,7) - you did it nicely here
01:51:339 (2) - This note is too strong not to be a slider tbh, its tons stronger than 01:51:484 (3) - bcs more prominent guitar vocal and drums ;/. 02:02:989 (2,3) - Applies to this too.
02:01:096 (3,4) - By ctrl+ging here you will follow the vocals on point, you shouldn't make drums without vocals clickable if you did not till now.

The aesthetics could also use some work.

00:45:514 (1,3,5,7) - These seem really randomly placed. They all sound similar in the song, they are in the same combo, yet you change their shape and placing all the time. I suggest you do something nicer and more organized, like switch between two slider shapes (only copy paste and rotate by 90 degrees), don't overlap stuff if you won't overlap all the stuff. My example: https://i.imgur.com/SOERdGc.jpg , don't mind the movement, i just made a good looking pattern real fast.
00:52:213 (11,1,2) - A bit complicated to explain in a simple way, but if you use patterns such as this, it is a good idea to blanket them like https://i.imgur.com/hV6bxLd.jpg it should look much better.
00:58:038 (5) - Sliders shouldn't be tilted this much (blame the meta). Check pishifat video about aesthetics and slidershapes https://i.imgur.com/eaeJwSk.jpg this is about the max rotation until it starts looking bad :/.
00:54:834 (1,2,4) - Consider putting the circle in the middle so it gets blanketed by 2 sliders https://i.imgur.com/q21qAC2.jpg
01:05:611 (7,10) - You should avoid placing objects so close to each other, I moved it just slightly https://i.imgur.com/LNKToIR.jpg but it should give much more space. Applies to many examples in this map like 01:25:125 (3,5) - 01:27:747 (5,7) - 01:55:707 (1,3) - idk picked random examples, some may look okay but generally its a good idea to give bigger spacing between objects.

Generally I'd advise looking into pishifat videos about aesthetics and slidershapes. Hopefully this mod will not be to hard to understand since there could be language barriers.

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/690966 if you've found this mod helpful, this is the mapset for m4m. If you don't have much time, just mod top and bottom diff.

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-22T05:39:50+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
The promised mod

[Redemption]

The rhythm in the map doesn't seem to be executed on point. At times you fully follow the prime layers like synth or vocals, but sometimes you just decide to ignore it for some drums or indistinct guitar. Here is how I think it could be improved and why with examples.
00:40:854 - In this section there is the prime bass guitar and a solo guitar. You kept following the bass guitar until 00:43:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - . In this example you switched to the solo guitar, which has a much higher pitch while the bass guitar is doing something too. Usually you'll want to switch layers when the one you were following completely settles down. Other than that high pitched guitar is left ear, bass is right ear so you have no idea how difficult it was for me to notice the change in layers. My suggestion would be to keep following bass guitar here, like make https://i.imgur.com/krSAeul.jpg this rhythm where all bass guitar sounds will be followed.
00:50:174 - The synth is making the melody in this section (we talked about what is a synth, its an electronic piano). So I assumed that the map should express that melody on point like you do on these sliders 00:50:174 (1,2,6,1,2,6) - . You should try this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/MGKXkm8.jpg because all clickable things will be only for synth rather than including not so relevant drum or guitar. You can include possible variations such as https://i.imgur.com/i7exSlW.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/Bk517o5.jpg . Applies to the whole section.
01:03:718 (6) - This note is empty, it has no sound in the song. 01:04:009 (8) - You should also consider not mapping this note so that you can give full emphasis to guitar. Vocals without any bgm, drum or guitar backup generally are really weak and mostly irrelevant to map, I think this is that case.
01:22:795 - In this section you should either follow the bass guitar or the synth. 01:25:125 - this sound is really irrelevant compared to the bass guitar and vastly different from it. By mapping both, the rhythm gets messed up, so either do https://i.imgur.com/yzjbIWq.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/Bkbe4xn.jpg. Most humans are not capable of following two different melodies at once (only the really trained ones like professional pianists), which is why I suggest you to follow one throughout. Repeats to other cases like this 01:25:999 - 01:27:455 - 01:29:494 - ..... 01:28:038 (6,7) - you did it nicely here
01:51:339 (2) - This note is too strong not to be a slider tbh, its tons stronger than 01:51:484 (3) - bcs more prominent guitar vocal and drums ;/. 02:02:989 (2,3) - Applies to this too.
02:01:096 (3,4) - By ctrl+ging here you will follow the vocals on point, you shouldn't make drums without vocals clickable if you did not till now.
The aesthetics could also use some work.
00:45:514 (1,3,5,7) - These seem really randomly placed. They all sound similar in the song, they are in the same combo, yet you change their shape and placing all the time. I suggest you do something nicer and more organized, like switch between two slider shapes (only copy paste and rotate by 90 degrees), don't overlap stuff if you won't overlap all the stuff. My example: https://i.imgur.com/SOERdGc.jpg , don't mind the movement, i just made a good looking pattern real fast.
00:52:213 (11,1,2) - A bit complicated to explain in a simple way, but if you use patterns such as this, it is a good idea to blanket them like https://i.imgur.com/hV6bxLd.jpg it should look much better.
00:58:038 (5) - Sliders shouldn't be tilted this much (blame the meta). Check pishifat video about aesthetics and slidershapes https://i.imgur.com/eaeJwSk.jpg this is about the max rotation until it starts looking bad :/.
00:54:834 (1,2,4) - Consider putting the circle in the middle so it gets blanketed by 2 sliders https://i.imgur.com/q21qAC2.jpg
01:05:611 (7,10) - You should avoid placing objects so close to each other, I moved it just slightly https://i.imgur.com/LNKToIR.jpg but it should give much more space. Applies to many examples in this map like 01:25:125 (3,5) - 01:27:747 (5,7) - 01:55:707 (1,3) - idk picked random examples, some may look okay but generally its a good idea to give bigger spacing between objects.
Generally I'd advise looking into pishifat videos about aesthetics and slidershapes. Hopefully this mod will not be to hard to understand since there could be language barriers.

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/690966 if you've found this mod helpful, this is the mapset for m4m. If you don't have much time, just mod top and bottom diff.

Fixed all. Thanks for the mod sir! i'll mod your map in 24 hours.

tochiii

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

tochiii 2018-01-22T07:41:20+00:00

l e g e n d

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2018-01-22T14:55:08+00:00

Mod here.

Normal
00:13:734 (1) - This is "okay" but generally, edgy and curvy sliders are not recommended in easier diffs like Normal. It is very easy for newbies to misread and have many issues with it.
00:25:734 (4,5) - The flow is not ideal imo, and the feel that 00:24:934 (3,5) - almost overlap is awkward. Suggest that you move 00:26:534 (5) - up above tail of 4 and adjust some spacings.
01:11:727 (3,4) - please improve blanket
01:12:310 (4,5) - same and there are many places the aesthetics is kinda bad, try to make them look good!
01:31:242 (4) - 1/2 slider seems better as it can represent all strong beats
02:07:649 (1,2) - Try not to do this in Normal. The anti-flow and spacing will be misleading for new players.
Also i'd say use 1/1 slider 02:09:105 - instead is much better.
01:51:339 (1,2) - incorrect DS

So I think it's ok but needs more aesthetics. Plus, since almost all of your rhythm is 1/2 and 1/1 spam, I would personally suggest that you rename it to easy and remove the lowest diff which is unnecessary. Easy is also messy and needs a lot of reword. It is missing many beats and thus feel uncomfortable.

Hard
00:49:883 (7,1) - 00:51:193 (4,1) - 00:53:523 (4,1) - etc. better to swap NC
00:54:834 (4) - NC
Not gonna mention those NC stuff
01:13:184 - it seems weird to have this downbeat as reverse sound
01:26:582 (2) - judging from music you could map it as 1/2 slider + 2 circles

Light Insane
00:15:534 (4,5,6) - this distance is uncomfortable and try to make intro DS consistent, maybe use 00:16:334 (6,1) - ds
01:05:320 (4) - rhythm is bad as you are not following music at all.01:05:756 - etc shouldnt be emphasised while 01:05:902 - should. Try
http://puu.sh/z790d/a91f38cee6.jpg
imo those empty parts at the beginning can be mapped a bit cuz rn it sounds too empty for me lol

Insane
00:44:350 (6) - why not use curve slider as before?
Seems ok overall, just need more polish on object aesthetics

Redemption
Use more NCs as the combo is so big now lol
01:21:630 - 01:21:921 - these should be downbeats but you are using them as stacking, which plays weird
I think you need to improve a lot on aesthetics. While the map has no unrankable issue, it has a lot of random spacing jumps as well as messy slider/circle combinations.
e.g. 00:54:252 (8,9,10,11) - i feel the spacing is suddenly increasing too fast and it's not expected
00:57:747 (4,5) - try similar shape
00:55:125 (2,4) - 01:09:397 (3,6) - etc kind of random overlaps
01:26:582 (9,10) - judging from music its better to sue circles instead of sliders cuz downbeats
01:59:639 (9,10) - messy

Basically i agree with mardius that you can have a lot of improvements because of the aesthetics issues. Still not bad as a new mapper map but yeah, keep improving xd

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-22T15:56:41+00:00

sahuang wrote:
Mod here.

Normal
00:13:734 (1) - This is "okay" but generally, edgy and curvy sliders are not recommended in easier diffs like Normal. It is very easy for newbies to misread and have many issues with it.
00:25:734 (4,5) - The flow is not ideal imo, and the feel that 00:24:934 (3,5) - almost overlap is awkward. Suggest that you move 00:26:534 (5) - up above tail of 4 and adjust some spacings.
01:11:727 (3,4) - please improve blanket
01:12:310 (4,5) - same and there are many places the aesthetics is kinda bad, try to make them look good!
01:31:242 (4) - 1/2 slider seems better as it can represent all strong beats
02:07:649 (1,2) - Try not to do this in Normal. The anti-flow and spacing will be misleading for new players.
Also i'd say use 1/1 slider 02:09:105 - instead is much better.
01:51:339 (1,2) - incorrect DS

So I think it's ok but needs more aesthetics. Plus, since almost all of your rhythm is 1/2 and 1/1 spam, I would personally suggest that you rename it to easy and remove the lowest diff which is unnecessary. Easy is also messy and needs a lot of reword. It is missing many beats and thus feel uncomfortable.

Hard
00:49:883 (7,1) - 00:51:193 (4,1) - 00:53:523 (4,1) - etc. better to swap NC
00:54:834 (4) - NC
Not gonna mention those NC stuff
01:13:184 - it seems weird to have this downbeat as reverse sound
01:26:582 (2) - judging from music you could map it as 1/2 slider + 2 circles

Light Insane
00:15:534 (4,5,6) - this distance is uncomfortable and try to make intro DS consistent, maybe use 00:16:334 (6,1) - ds
01:05:320 (4) - rhythm is bad as you are not following music at all.01:05:756 - etc shouldnt be emphasised while 01:05:902 - should. Try
http://puu.sh/z790d/a91f38cee6.jpg
imo those empty parts at the beginning can be mapped a bit cuz rn it sounds too empty for me lol

Insane
00:44:350 (6) - why not use curve slider as before?
Seems ok overall, just need more polish on object aesthetics

Redemption
Use more NCs as the combo is so big now lol
01:21:630 - 01:21:921 - these should be downbeats but you are using them as stacking, which plays weird
I think you need to improve a lot on aesthetics. While the map has no unrankable issue, it has a lot of random spacing jumps as well as messy slider/circle combinations.
e.g. 00:54:252 (8,9,10,11) - i feel the spacing is suddenly increasing too fast and it's not expected
00:57:747 (4,5) - try similar shape
00:55:125 (2,4) - 01:09:397 (3,6) - etc kind of random overlaps
01:26:582 (9,10) - judging from music its better to sue circles instead of sliders cuz downbeats
01:59:639 (9,10) - messy

Basically i agree with mardius that you can have a lot of improvements because of the aesthetics issues. Still not bad as a new mapper map but yeah, keep improving xd

fixed all i guess?

victorfernando

292 posts

Joined October 2016

victorfernando 2018-01-22T16:36:53+00:00

sahuang wrote:
Mod here.

Hard
00:49:883 (7,1) - 00:51:193 (4,1) - 00:53:523 (4,1) - etc. better to swap NC
00:54:834 (4) - NC
Not gonna mention those NC stuff
01:13:184 - it seems weird to have this downbeat as reverse sound
01:26:582 (2) - judging from music you could map it as 1/2 slider + 2 circles
fixed all thanks!

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Okoayu

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Okoayu 2018-01-27T12:48:03+00:00

reply to p/6444565

zhu

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zhu 2018-01-27T17:29:07+00:00

YukiZura- wrote:
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[Redemption]
00:14:934 (2) - how about replace this sldier with a note or extend it to here 00:15:334 - feels like that slider is out of place huhu fixed
01:07:941 (3,4,5) - nc all this slider to present the velocity changes changed the rhythm so dont need
02:01:096 (3) - tidy up pls ;-; for example fixed

00:49:300 (1) - wait why nc here lol .. should be here 00:49:082 (7) - fixed
00:50:174 (2,3) - i see your map use too many different slider shape , if you can pls avoid this because it makes the map look ugly (but slider map is another story xd) , if you decided with 00:50:174 (2) - this slider , 00:50:465 (3) - this slider also should be the same as the one before but difference rotation fixed
like this for example
00:58:038 (6,1) - hurm bad transition , move the slider end to X:120 Y:148 for better transition fixed
01:51:047 (3) - no sound fixed

[insane]
00:34:334 (3) - remove whistle it sound better with whistle
01:14:932 (1) - nc here? sure
00:32:534 (8,1) - blanket this not going for blankets here
insane look good enough xd

[normal]
00:42:601 - why break here lol .. it is because im trying emphasize drum there
00:56:290 (2,1) - blanket pls fixed
02:06:484 (3,4) - hurm should be here 02:06:193 - , to avoid comfusing new player fixed

ok that's all ><
goodluck

Djulus wrote:
last
00:39:334 (1) - nc no its okay without nc
00:40:999 (2,3) - stacking on 1/4 so weirdly imo looks okay to me
01:07:941 (7,8,9) - that part needs more ds cuz this pattern looks weird imo fixed
02:13:474 (11) - nc fixed
02:13:620 (1) - it would be better if you put spinnner on blue tick no vocal im emphasizing starts from on redtick
insane
00:54:252 (6,8) - what about unstack 00:54:398 (7,9) - and pls nerf ds, too far for insane sound is enough strong to be emphasized that far on this part
00:58:621 (5,6) - same with ds sound is enough strong to be emphasized that far on this part
01:19:592 (6) - replace this circle on left side for better flow cuz ds looks weirdly sure
01:54:250 (4) - same with ds no ds feels okay
verY
01:43:183 (1,2) - what with ds,its should be better if you do for this same ds like 01:47:843 (1,2) - (i mean you should fix ds on slow part cuz looks weirdly for me) fixed
01:51:775 (2,3) - idk but you should fix ds uwu. fixed
nice diff btw
normal
00:21:934 (3,4) - fix ds fixed
this diff needs more aesthetics patterns not a just 1/4 jumps for example use some 1/2 sliders
easy
clean

Namki wrote:
[Redemption]
00:04:534 - / 00:05:734 - / 00:06:334 - / etc - they're giving too much feedback to player but there's no even a sound. I suggest you to silence sliderends. its better without silencing them imo
00:30:334 (4) - you are undermapping vocals right now, by judging the entire section I could say that you're prioritizing vocals over instrumentals and sometimes when vocals end you map according to instrumental. It's decent rhythm choice but this certain pattern breaks this idea. Consider replacing it with a circle on red tick and a 1/2 slider on white tick. fixed
00:40:999 (2,3) - pretty emphasis lacking pattern. 00:41:290 - music here is quite prominent for being understacked with a slider. Something like that would fit. fixed
00:43:038 (10) - don't you think it's too way prominent to have it that unemphasized? This sound is outstading and spacing should be so. Consider making spacing bigger for better emphasis. fixed
00:44:349 (5,6) - stack isn't something good to play here, you stop cursor movement and also it goes sorta inconsistent. fixed
00:54:252 (9,10,11,12) - music kinda changes here, bigger spacing for better emphasis? sure
00:57:601 (2,3,4) - spacing looks pretty illogical. 00:57:747 - it has more prominent sound under than this 00:57:892 - so the first circle should've spaced more than the second. fixed
01:21:922 (2,1,2,1) - flow is really uncomfortable here. Angle suddenly becomes too wide here 01:22:067 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - and it makes little sense as well. There are no sounds to change flow angle in this way. Consider making angle less wide, you can do it simply move this circle 01:22:212 (2) - somewhere down this circle 01:21:922 (2) - . Furthermore, if you make that jump bigger it would emphasize music better. For instance, https://namki.s-ul.eu/F0MKmd2D.jpg . remapped this section
Okay, I will summarize my main concern for this diff. It's spacing emphasis. As I said earlier, map lacks it. Also, your map is pretty "generic" as they say so logic here is something about "more prominent sound - more spacing" and sometimes you are following this logic but sometimes you do not. Try to make it more consistent. Some examples: 01:23:815 (6) - it's like the peak of measure and beat is kinda audible, 01:25:417 (5) - too prominent for being stacked, 01:30:951 (4,5,6,7) - the same, 01:53:669 (3,4) - the same (but some stackes are perfectly fitting, I only pointed out these which had prominent sound on the second circle), etc. I think you've got my idea. remapped whole kiai
01:26:582 (5,6) - I'm quite satisfied with this one but you may like to follow 1/2 here, instead. Because these sound are kinda outstanding and they appear like only one time per part, so. Arguable. Try to recieve feedback on this. okay i will
01:41:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - that's soooo inaudible. Mind explaining what are you following there? remapped this section
01:45:441 (6,7) - minor. Maybe try to avoid overlap? fixed
01:51:047 (3) - this circle makes no sense at all. There's no music so I assume you were following vocals but how about this 01:51:193 - it has vocals, too! Consider either deleting this circle or add one more at 01:51:193 - . fixed
[Insane]
Okay, I've pointed that quite few but 00:43:039 (1) - this sounds pretty weird, having such strong sound understacked isn't the best way of emphasizing things. The soulution would be simply unstack and make jump to that prominent sound. alright
00:45:514 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - nice triangles but they kinda cover theirselves and it goes visually unpleasant. Consider just placing it a bit right every time new triangle appear. Like that https://namki.s-ul.eu/52alsRvY.jpg nah id reather with this pattern it looks clean without moving them that way
00:47:407 - it defenitely has kinda audible sound. ok fixed
And as I've pointed again 00:48:282 (2) - density is starting to rise and having small spacing makes little sense. If you had spacing acceleration fixed
01:01:242 (6,7,8,9) - it would be spacing-wise correct to make it that way because each of 01:01:387 (7,8,9) - have the same sound and the different one is 01:01:242 - . ok fixed
01:15:223 (2,3,4,5,1) - you are decelerating spacing which doesn't make sense at all, I agree with bigger spacing here 01:15:223 (2,3) - because of snare but 01:15:806 (1) - defenitely needs more spacing. Alright, I will not write just timestamps with "bigger spacing due to prominency" or "less spacing because of weakness". Will point out few patterns and you'll decide if you find my point of view correct. 01:20:465 - bigger due to prominency, 01:24:834 - the same, 01:53:376 (5,6) - bigger spacing because of vocals and less spacing makes little sense as music didn't become less strong, etc. You've got what I mean.fixed
01:22:359 (8) - NC because of other instrument is introduced. yeah
01:51:339 (1,3) - minor. It's overlapping just by one pixel, move it pleease?sure
[Very Hard]
If higher difficulties were finу with NC here I recommend you to place NC every new measure, it's quite hard to deal with combo of 8 in Hard.
01:16:095 (2) - rhythm seems weird. Vocals are 1/2 as well as instrumentals, consider replacing with two 1/2 sliders.
Spacing to 01:16:678 (3) - is too way small, you had 1.7x with 1/2 gap but this one looks like 1/2 pattern instead of 1/1. So, ye, bigger spacing for sure.
01:18:718 - mhm, this sudden rhythm change isn't really a good idea, try to fill this with objects. Also, spacing there as for 1/2 gap but you have there 3/4 gap.
01:24:834 (1,2) - switch NC. Also, they seem to correalte with each other but music is too different. Try differen slidershapes or angles.
01:50:319 (1) - you express this piano in the same way as 01:47:843 (1) - / 01:48:717 (1) - / etc. - so this rhythm-wise lacking, try just 3 circles with something about 1.2x spacing, istead.
The rhythm in kiai is something I disagree with. So, why is this kiai? Because it's a chrous and it's music apogee but rhythm is undermapping both vocals and intrumentals also rhythms have too way little density. Also, spacing is even smaller than in non-kiai parts. I highly recommend you to reconsider kiai part fully with dense enough patterns and with logical spacing. dif is remapped into light insane

[Normal]
I am not really sure if this recover time is enough 01:01:970 (1) - for 206 bpm. it is enough
01:20:466 (1,2) - and 01:47:261 (3,1) - stacks appear only twice per diff. It's really better to remove them as they do not go consistently so it's hard to handle with sudden stacks.sure
gl~

_Meep_ wrote:
From Meep's Love Live Modding Queue!
redemption
00:16:934 (3) - NC? ok
00:20:134 (4,1) - Swap NC and add NC on 00:21:534 (2) - ? ok
00:32:934 (1) - NC this i guess, plays and seems better. ok
00:40:854 - This parts' NCs are pretty long honestly, and it kinda looks bad imo. Look 01:04:154 - here and you can see you NCed every big white tick or notable vocal sound that introduced another part. Why not use the same NCing as the later part in the early parts of the song? The NCing in this song is really messy tbh. i fixed whole NC problems on this dif
01:07:941 (7,8,9) - honestly there wouldnt be any emphasis on any of them since the players would just be resting their cursors on the sliderheads ._. this would only work if they were 3/4s. fixed
01:11:145 (7) - NC this, why is the NCing different from 01:05:174 - ? i fixed whole NC problems on this dif
01:20:465 (6) - NC cause of loud sound i fixed whole NC problems on this dif
01:21:631 (2) - The jump part should start here, why is it that it starts on 01:21:485 (1) - ? Looking from 01:21:630 - the ncing pattern should also be something like fixed
01:23:815 (6) - why is this not NCed when 01:25:853 (1) - is? fixed
01:28:912 (1,2) - Swap NCs, it fits better. fixed
01:45:222 (5,6,7) - This just looks bad visually, i rather you either overlap it more, or dont overlap it at all. ok fixed
01:45:514 (7,4) - at least use the same slider fixed

insane
00:21:534 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - why is the DS changing so inconsistently here? If you want to map the increasing volume of the piano, increase the DS gradually. fixed
00:44:932 (1,2) - it's really hard to hit this 1/8 reverse slider without sliderbreaking, i strongly suggest you change this. fixed
01:10:272 (1) - this shouldnt be NCed according to how you mapped the earlier parts. ok
01:14:932 (1) - remove NC yes
01:49:008 (2,1) - this overlap ._. it looks fine
01:51:339 (1,3) - this too.. fixed
01:52:212 (4) - put the clap here instead of 01:52:358 (5) - , why would u clap to the vocals? fixed
01:59:347 (4,5,6,7) - flow is really bad here, players have to move they mouse further to the bottom left after already doing it once from 5-6, its annoying to hit and i think you should fix it. fixed
02:05:901 (5,2) - i can let this slip but u can change if u want ;/ fixed
I don't really see any consistent emphasis on notes that have claps or powerful sounds in the chorus, or actualy in the whole map. May want to look at this again and remap parts of it.

thats all for now
the spread is somewhat bad because you're going from 3* -> 3.5* -> 5* which is a pretty high jump if i do say so miyself, therefore i suggest you add in a light insane or buff the hard got new light insane dif

Cordie

67 posts

Joined February 2015

Cordie 2018-01-28T21:59:53+00:00

Normal difficulty as requested. Hope it works.

zzz

oosu file format v14

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zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-01-29T07:21:43+00:00

ёоо плИИС РАААААААААААНК!!!!!!!!

Kensuke

1,856 posts

Joined April 2014

Kensuke 2018-02-03T11:29:36+00:00

pm req

[General]

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
1. drum-hitclap.wav
2. normal-hitclap.wav
3. normal-hitclap2.wav
I've tried checking all of these and it looks like they really have a delay. So try to cut them.
it's a cut version so you might add "cut version" in tags.

[Cordi's Normal]

As a current Ranking Criteria states, the lowest difficult difficulty must not be above 2 stars!!
00:39:334 (4) - The lump thingy is very unrecommended because the slider path doesn't look clear enough for newbie players to understand, that could cause newbies players a confuse. Reminder this is the lowest difficulty and it should be beginner-friendly difficulty. This problem could cause newbie players a confuse. It'd be better to change the slider to plain circle slider for newbie players to understand.
00:40:854 to 00:45:514 - It is unjustified to leave the empty space here without a blank. Players could failed at this part if the players' health point is really low. Because leaving this part a blank, the health point could decrease. If the situation happened, players' health bar will slowly decrease and finally died. And there is no reason to leave this as a blank anyway so please add a break here.
01:05:902 (4) - In my perspective it will be better to flip this slider vertically and horizontally. (as known as ctrl+j and ctrl+h) Using the same slider shape as the previous slider looks sloppy and monotonous. But flipping this slider vertically and horizontally could make the slider have the variation and the flow here will look much smoother.
01:10:562 (4,2) - So try not to make the slider tail 01:10:562 (4) - overlaps with the slider tail 01:11:436 (2) -. It looks anticlimactic.
02:09:979 (1) - Making an unjustified jump in lower difficulties is strongly unacceptable here. Since it is a lowest difficulty in the mapset, the difficulty should be beginner-friendly difficulty for newbie players to play with, but this unjustified jump could be a strong unfair playing challenge for newbie players!!(just kidding lol. I know you are just forgot to reverse the slider back.)
02:13:474 (1) - Players could rarely see the slider head because the slider tail 02:12:309 (1) - is perfectly overlapping the slider head, causing an unfair reading challenge for newbie players. I'd recommend to reverse this slider so it will be easier for players to see.

Pretty neat!

[Victor's Hard]

Widescreen support is being ticked.
00:06:534 (3,4,5,1) - Making the flow back and forth could be sloppy and repetitive. I'd be better to move the hitcircle 00:08:134 (5) - away so it will not be boring.
00:10:534 - Since the piano plays here, this spot shouldn't be a passive notes in my perspective. You might make a pattern here like this to emphasize the piano sound.
00:10:534 (4,5,6) - This hitobjects here (as well as the following ones which in this part) has barely the difference spacing between the previous hitobjects (which have 1/1 beat gap). This could make players become confused when playing because their intuition is these hitobjects are spaced 1/1 gap, (as the previous ones are) causing 100s or misses here. So it will be better to decrease the spacing here, making them overlapped to one another is recommended, so players will not be confused with this.
00:21:734 - This part is totally have no sound, (or if it is, the sound here clearly has much less intense than the following sound) this spot shouldn't have an active hitobject starts here. Consider start the slider at 00:21:934 - instead.
00:34:934 (4,5) - I don't really understand the point you make these hitobjects stacked each other, since these piano sounds here are very dominant and the pitch is really high. Consider spacing them to represent the intense of the piano sounds.
00:50:174 - The sound here is pretty dominant. It shouldn't be only a slider end.
01:24:252 (5,1) - The spacing here could trigger the players. Players' intuition will think that they are spaced 1/2 beat gap, causing a miss here. So it will be better to move the circle 01:24:834 (1) - away to avoid having an unfair reading problem for players.
01:47:844- This part here is very intense. It shouldn't have used soft sampleset hitsounds tho. Using normal sampleset would be more appropriate with the intensity of this part.

This difficulty has some problems about how to place the hitobjects according to the song's rhythm (it's like the dominant sounds always be passive notes like slider ends or slider reverses) and the new combo placement. I think it could be improved.

will continue modding!

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-02-03T18:44:17+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
pm req

[General]
Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
drum-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap2.wav
I've tried checking all of these and it looks like they really have a delay. So try to cut them. deleted
it's a cut version so you might add "cut version" in tags. added

Cordie

67 posts

Joined February 2015

Cordie 2018-02-03T20:38:26+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
pm req

[Cordi's Normal]
As a current Ranking Criteria states, the lowest difficult difficulty must not be above 2 stars!! I thought that only applied to mania. Anyways sacrificed the circles at 01:08:232 (3,4) - into a slider. Also replaced the slider 01:03:572 (3) - with a circle to leave some breathing room, since this section continues too long. Now it sits at 2.00.
00:39:334 (4) - The lump thingy is very unrecommended because the slider path doesn't look clear enough for newbie players to understand, that could cause newbies players a confuse. Reminder this is the lowest difficulty and it should be beginner-friendly difficulty. This problem could cause newbie players a confuse. It'd be better to change the slider to plain circle slider for newbie players to understand. right, made it more straight
00:40:854 to 00:45:514 - It is unjustified to leave the empty space here without a blank. Players could failed at this part if the players' health point is really low. Because leaving this part a blank, the health point could decrease. If the situation happened, players' health bar will slowly decrease and finally died. And there is no reason to leave this as a blank anyway so please add a break here. added a break
01:05:902 (4) - In my perspective it will be better to flip this slider vertically and horizontally. (as known as ctrl+j and ctrl+h) Using the same slider shape as the previous slider looks sloppy and monotonous. But flipping this slider vertically and horizontally could make the slider have the variation and the flow here will look much smoother. right
01:10:562 (4,2) - So try not to make the slider tail 01:10:562 (4) - overlaps with the slider tail 01:11:436 (2) -. It looks anticlimactic. okay
02:09:979 (1) - Making an unjustified jump in lower difficulties is strongly unacceptable here. Since it is a lowest difficulty in the mapset, the difficulty should be beginner-friendly difficulty for newbie players to play with, but this unjustified jump could be a strong unfair playing challenge for newbie players!!(just kidding lol. I know you are just forgot to reverse the slider back.) Or maybe, I did it intentionally to bait modders..
02:13:474 (1) - Players could rarely see the slider head because the slider tail 02:12:309 (1) - is perfectly overlapping the slider head, causing an unfair reading challenge for newbie players. I'd recommend to reverse this slider so it will be easier for players to see. done
Thanks for the feedback!

update

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 111047
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1.1

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Title:Nevereverland
TitleUnicode:Nevereverland
Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Cordi's Normal
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
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lit120

3,272 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2018-02-03T20:49:56+00:00

saw the highest diff only + new mapper who mapped that

not bad for a new mapper like u xd

guess i can toss some stars since this is about to qualified xd

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-02-03T21:02:36+00:00

lit120 wrote:
saw the highest diff only + new mapper who mapped that

not bad for a new mapper like u xd

guess i can toss some stars since this is about to qualified xd

すきです !! ( •̀ω•́ )

victorfernando

292 posts

Joined October 2016

victorfernando 2018-02-04T00:36:10+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
Victor's Hard
Widescreen support is being ticked.
00:06:534 (3,4,5,1) - Making the flow back and forth could be sloppy and repetitive. I'd be better to move the hitcircle 00:08:134 (5) - away so it will not be boring.
00:10:534 - Since the piano plays here, this spot shouldn't be a passive notes in my perspective. You might make a pattern here like this to emphasize the piano sound.
00:10:534 (4,5,6) - This hitobjects here (as well as the following ones which in this part) has barely the difference spacing between the previous hitobjects (which have 1/1 beat gap). This could make players become confused when playing because their intuition is these hitobjects are spaced 1/1 gap, (as the previous ones are) causing 100s or misses here. So it will be better to decrease the spacing here, making them overlapped to one another is recommended, so players will not be confused with this.
00:21:734 - This part is totally have no sound, (or if it is, the sound here clearly has much less intense than the following sound) this spot shouldn't have an active hitobject starts here. Consider start the slider at 00:21:934 - instead.
00:34:934 (4,5) - I don't really understand the point you make these hitobjects stacked each other, since these piano sounds here are very dominant and the pitch is really high. Consider spacing them to represent the intense of the piano sounds.
00:50:174 - The sound here is pretty dominant. It shouldn't be only a slider end.
01:24:252 (5,1) - The spacing here could trigger the players. Players' intuition will think that they are spaced 1/2 beat gap, causing a miss here. So it will be better to move the circle 01:24:834 (1) - away to avoid having an unfair reading problem for players.
01:47:844- This part here is very intense. It shouldn't have used soft sampleset hitsounds tho. Using normal sampleset would be more appropriate with the intensity of this part.
This difficulty has some problems about how to place the hitobjects according to the song's rhythm (it's like the dominant sounds always be passive notes like slider ends or slider reverses) and the new combo placement. I think it could be improved.

will continue modding!

fixed all

diff

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: nevereverland.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 111047
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 130416,160271,185609,258571
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1.6

[Metadata]
Title:Nevereverland
TitleUnicode:Nevereverland
Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Victor's Hard
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
BeatmapID:1387197
BeatmapSetID:621438

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:5.6
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:1.1
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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//Break Periods
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2,91587,106944
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Kensuke

1,856 posts

Joined April 2014

Kensuke 2018-02-04T09:56:43+00:00

General #2

I've just noticed that the combo color 1 and combo color 3 has barely difference in terms of the color. Try to make the color combo 3 become more different so players could identify more between those.

[Light Insane]

Widescreen support is being ticked.
00:29:634 - Since you've mapped follow piano sound, I think this should be mapped also.
00:38:934 - I think this spot shouldn't add finish sound here, since there is no any cymbal sound here.
00:49:009 (5) - Using only one hold reverse slider might feel tedious for players to play. You might add more reverse slider like this, so it will not become too boring to play. As same as 02:00:076 (5) -.
01:05:174 - Both of the instrumental sound and vocal sound here is pretty dominant. I'd recommend to add a hitobject at this spot to represent the sound better rather than just leaving it as a blank. As same as 01:09:834 -.
01:43:183 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These are spaced pretty near to one another. It looks very anticlimactic and the aesthetics here is very unpleasant looking. I'd recommend to spaced these further like how you did previously.
01:47:843 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Using plain claps here doesn't fit with the song's rhythm and intensity at all. Try to copy how Starset managed with the hitsound in this part.
01:52:941 (2,3,4,5) - In my first glance, my intuition is these are formed as a perfectly hexagonal pattern, but when I looked over and over again, I noticed that these aren't formed perfectly. So you'd better try to make these formed perfectly hexagonal shape by using Rotate Settings.
02:14:639 - This spot is very intense, it shouldn't be just a slider end of 02:14:348 (3) -. To emphasize the dominant sound here, it'd be better to change this slider 02:14:348 (3) - to 1/2 beat slider and place a hitcircle at 02:14:639 - instead. So that it could represent the sound here better.

[Insane]

Widescreen support is being ticked.
00:23:934 (2,4) - After I looked at these slider repetitively, I noticed that the slider tail 00:23:934 (2) - isn't actually perfectly blanketed by the slider body 00:24:734 (4) -. In order to make the blanket here become perfect, move the slider 00:24:734 (4) - to x:409 y:75, creating nice aesthetically pleasant looking.
00:37:534 (1) - The slider flow here is pretty bad. ;(
01:27:165 (1,2,3) - This part has exactly the same rhythm as 01:22:796 (1,2,3) -, but why they are mapped differently? Consider making them the same.
01:43:037 - This spot here has an audible sound. You shouldn't miss it. Consider mapping this part. As same as 01:43:110 -, 01:45:440 -.
01:47:844 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - It'd be better to change these hitobjects to plain circles with big jumps, to emphasize the intensity of this part here.
02:05:901 (5,2) - Because the slider 02:05:901 (5) - hasn't fully disappeared while the circle 02:06:338 (2) - is appearing, it appears that the slider body 02:05:901 (5) - overlaps with the circle 02:06:339 (2) -, creating an pleasant aesthetically looking here. It'd be better to move the circle 02:06:339 (2) - away from the slider 02:05:902 (5) - until they don't overlap each other, and it will creating a nice pleasant looking aesthetics here.
02:14:347 (3) - As I mentioned in the previous difficulty, this spot is very intense, it shouldn't be just a slider end of 02:14:348 (3) -. To emphasize the dominant sound here, it'd be better to change this slider 02:14:348 (3) - to 1/2 beat slider and place a hitcircle at 02:14:639 - instead. So that it could represent the sound here better.

[Starset's Extra]

Widescreen support is being ticked.
00:07:334 (1,2) - Because of an editor error, the slider tail 00:08:534 (2) - isn't perfectly stacked with the slider head 00:07:334 (1) -. Consider moving the slider 00:08:534 (2) - one pixel downwards and rightwards. (or x:352 y:342) So these sliders will be perfectly stacked, creating a nice pleasant looking aesthetics here.

[-Tochi's Extra]

00:38:934 (4) - Because the previous sliders are 1/2 beat, it might be better to add a new combo here, to indicate players for the transition.
01:22:795 (1) - The slider tail's sound here is pretty irritating to listen. I'd recommend to add a 5% volume inherited point (green line) here to silence the slider tail sound. As same as the rest in this part if you agree with this suggestion I suggest.
02:14:639 (1) - This spot is very intense, it'd be better to add a finish hitsound here.

I'm not gonna mod top difficulty tho.
In conclusion, I think this map needs some more room for improvements. (especially the owner's difficulties) The GD's extras were pretty good in my perspective tho.
Good luck~

zhu

1,326 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

zhu 2018-02-04T11:49:48+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
2

General #2
I've just noticed that the combo color 1 and combo color 3 has barely difference in terms of the color. Try to make the color combo 3 become more different so players could identify more between those.
fixed

[Light Insane]
Widescreen support is being ticked.
00:29:634 - Since you've mapped follow piano sound, I think this should be mapped also. fixed
00:38:934 - I think this spot shouldn't add finish sound here, since there is no any cymbal sound here. fixed
00:49:009 (5) - Using only one hold reverse slider might feel tedious for players to play. You might add more reverse slider like this, so it will not become too boring to play. As same as 02:00:076 (5) -. 00:49:009 (5) -
01:05:174 - Both of the instrumental sound and vocal sound here is pretty dominant. I'd recommend to add a hitobject at this spot to represent the sound better rather than just leaving it as a blank. As same as 01:09:834 -. im trying emphasize synth here so rather stick with current rhythms
01:43:183 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These are spaced pretty near to one another. It looks very anticlimactic and the aesthetics here is very unpleasant looking. I'd recommend to spaced these further like how you did previously. fixed
01:47:843 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Using plain claps here doesn't fit with the song's rhythm and intensity at all. Try to copy how Starset managed with the hitsound in this part. fixed
01:52:941 (2,3,4,5) - In my first glance, my intuition is these are formed as a perfectly hexagonal pattern, but when I looked over and over again, I noticed that these aren't formed perfectly. So you'd better try to make these formed perfectly hexagonal shape by using Rotate Settings. fixed
02:14:639 - This spot is very intense, it shouldn't be just a slider end of 02:14:348 (3) -. To emphasize the dominant sound here, it'd be better to change this slider 02:14:348 (3) - to 1/2 beat slider and place a hitcircle at 02:14:639 - instead. So that it could represent the sound here better.fixed
[Insane]
Widescreen support is being ticked.
00:23:934 (2,4) - After I looked at these slider repetitively, I noticed that the slider tail 00:23:934 (2) - isn't actually perfectly blanketed by the slider body 00:24:734 (4) -. In order to make the blanket here become perfect, move the slider 00:24:734 (4) - to x:409 y:75, creating nice aesthetically pleasant looking. fixed
00:37:534 (1) - The slider flow here is pretty bad. ;( flow here is not that bad
01:27:165 (1,2,3) - This part has exactly the same rhythm as 01:22:796 (1,2,3) -, but why they are mapped differently? Consider making them the same. fixed
01:43:037 - This spot here has an audible sound. You shouldn't miss it. Consider mapping this part. As same as 01:43:110 -, 01:45:440 -. fixed
01:47:844 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - It'd be better to change these hitobjects to plain circles with big jumps, to emphasize the intensity of this part here. fixed
02:05:901 (5,2) - Because the slider 02:05:901 (5) - hasn't fully disappeared while the circle 02:06:338 (2) - is appearing, it appears that the slider body 02:05:901 (5) - overlaps with the circle 02:06:339 (2) -, creating an pleasant aesthetically looking here. It'd be better to move the circle 02:06:339 (2) - away from the slider 02:05:902 (5) - until they don't overlap each other, and it will creating a nice pleasant looking aesthetics here. fixed
02:14:347 (3) - As I mentioned in the previous difficulty, this spot is very intense, it shouldn't be just a slider end of 02:14:348 (3) -. To emphasize the dominant sound here, it'd be better to change this slider 02:14:348 (3) - to 1/2 beat slider and place a hitcircle at 02:14:639 - instead. So that it could represent the sound here better. fixed
I'm not gonna mod top difficulty tho. why though
In conclusion, I think this map needs some more room for improvements. (especially the owner's difficulties) The GD's extras were pretty good in my perspective tho.
Good luck~

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