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REOL - YoiYoi Kokon [Osu|CatchTheBeat]

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Ongaku
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 5:33:30 PM

Artist: REOL
Title: YoiYoi Kokon
Tags: jbhyperion mrsergio mir sigma giga
BPM: 139
Filesize: 4705kb
Play Time: 01:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.66 stars, 105 notes)
  2. Hyperion's Overdose (5.02 stars, 335 notes)
  3. Hyperion's Rain (3.97 stars, 294 notes)
  4. Mir's Hard (3.06 stars, 209 notes)
  5. MrSergio's Insane (4.26 stars, 324 notes)
  6. Normal (1.8 stars, 123 notes)
  7. Sore wa (4.81 stars, 374 notes)
Download: REOL - YoiYoi Kokon
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So-re!





Rain and Overdose by JBHyperion

Sore wa by me
Insane by MrSergio
Hard by Mir
Normal by me
Easy by me
Last edited by Ongaku , edited 56 times in total.
JBHyperion
osu!catch Paragon
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Rain
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 58755
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 20955,27355,32155,46555,52955,56155,59355
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.100006

[Metadata]
Title:YoiYoi Kokon
TitleUnicode:宵々古今
Artist:REOL
ArtistUnicode:REOL
Creator:Ongaku
Version:Hyperion's Rain
Source:
Tags:
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:9
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:2
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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368,92,40555,2,0,L|468:48,1,110,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,48,40955,1,4,0:0:0:0:
368,48,41155,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,48,41355,1,12,0:0:0:0:
280,48,41555,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,192,41755,5,4,0:0:0:0:
60,316,41955,1,2,0:0:0:0:
180,368,42155,1,14,0:0:0:0:
332,368,42355,1,0,0:0:0:0:
70,368,42555,2,0,L|182:368,1,110,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,340,42855,1,2,0:0:0:0:
80,220,42955,2,0,L|140:184,1,55,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,192,43155,2,0,L|232:164,1,55,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,180,43355,5,4,0:0:0:0:
144,76,43555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
276,28,43755,1,14,0:0:0:0:
12,76,43955,2,0,P|44:124|92:136,1,110,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,136,44355,1,2,0:0:0:0:
468,136,44555,2,0,L|352:136,1,110,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
24,204,44955,6,0,L|112:132,1,110,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
164,136,45255,1,2,0:0:0:0:
324,192,45355,2,0,L|238:261,1,110,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,305,45755,2,0,L|504:233,1,110,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
460,213,46055,1,2,0:0:0:0:
292,193,46155,1,14,0:0:0:0:
424,193,46355,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,193,46555,5,14,0:0:0:0:
324,193,46955,2,0,L|336:105,1,82.5000031471254,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
72,113,47355,2,0,P|16:177|92:277,1,220,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,276,48155,5,12,0:0:0:0:
144,276,48355,1,8,0:0:0:0:
276,276,48555,2,0,L|356:224,1,82.5000031471254,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,276,48955,2,0,P|36:224|96:164,1,165.000006294251,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,164,49555,2,0,L|308:164,1,41.2500015735627,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,96,49755,5,12,0:0:0:0:
301,164,50155,2,0,L|196:164,1,82.5000031471254,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
484,164,50555,2,0,P|484:104|359:24,1,220,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,24,51155,1,0,0:0:0:0:
460,164,51355,5,12,0:0:0:0:
360,164,51555,1,8,0:0:0:0:
108,164,51755,2,0,L|92:248,1,82.5000031471254,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,244,52155,2,0,L|424:272,1,82.5000031471254,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,272,52455,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,276,52555,2,0,P|120:308|180:344,1,165,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,344,52955,5,14,0:0:0:0:
144,344,53355,1,0,0:0:0:0:
456,344,53755,1,12,0:0:0:0:
192,344,54155,1,0,0:0:0:0:
424,272,54555,5,12,0:0:0:0:
224,272,54755,1,8,0:0:0:0:
156,200,54955,1,0,0:0:0:0:
420,200,55355,1,12,0:0:0:0:
124,200,55755,2,0,L|112:116,1,82.5000031471254,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
380,192,56155,6,0,L|448:104,1,110,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,120,56555,2,0,L|52:68,1,110,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,56955,2,0,L|476:152,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,192,57355,2,0,L|26:192,1,110,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,128,57755,6,0,P|436:212|344:260,1,206.25,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,244,58105,1,0,0:0:0:0:
300,200,58155,1,0,0:0:0:0:
327,165,58205,1,0,0:0:0:0:
321,121,58255,1,0,0:0:0:0:
286,94,58305,1,0,0:0:0:0:
242,100,58355,1,0,0:0:0:0:
215,135,58405,1,0,0:0:0:0:
222,179,58455,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,206,58505,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,204,58555,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,208,58755,6,0,P|40:264|128:332,1,220,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,332,59255,1,2,0:0:0:0:
424,332,59355,6,0,P|464:276|420:240,1,137.5,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,240,59655,1,0,0:0:0:0:
168,240,59755,2,0,L|36:192,1,137.5,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,108,60155,2,0,L|124:152,1,137.5,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,144,60455,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,140,60555,2,0,L|411:76,1,68.75,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
226,209,60755,2,0,L|202:139,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,60955,6,0,L|248:172,2,137.5,4|2|14,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,280,61555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
428,312,61755,2,0,L|356:276,1,68.75,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,280,61955,2,0,L|232:248,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
412,144,62155,2,0,P|440:96|376:68,1,137.5,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,64,62455,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,64,62555,6,0,P|68:80|36:140,1,137.5,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
47,179,62805,1,0,0:0:0:0:
70,201,62855,1,0,0:0:0:0:
99,211,62905,1,0,0:0:0:0:
236,212,62955,1,14,0:0:0:0:
152,272,63155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
372,272,63355,2,0,P|444:244|468:192,1,137.5,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,63655,1,0,0:0:0:0:
204,192,63755,1,14,0:0:0:0:
340,192,63955,1,2,0:0:0:0:
36,192,64155,6,0,L|168:148,2,137.5,6|2|14,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,192,64755,2,0,L|272:148,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,148,64955,1,4,0:0:0:0:
388,192,65155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
92,288,65355,2,0,L|164:260,1,68.75,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,352,65555,2,0,L|260:328,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
84,192,65755,6,0,P|100:140|172:108,2,137.5,6|2|14,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,192,66355,1,2,0:0:0:0:
408,192,66555,2,0,P|436:132|380:100,1,137.5,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
315,99,66855,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,100,66955,2,0,L|192:148,1,68.75,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
366,53,67155,2,0,L|314:101,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
132,192,67355,6,0,P|84:236|124:284,1,137.5,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,284,67655,1,0,0:0:0:0:
364,288,67755,2,0,L|232:232,1,137.5,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,240,68155,1,4,0:0:0:0:
128,236,68355,2,0,L|72:192,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,148,68555,2,0,L|96:132,1,68.75,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
5,193,68755,2,0,L|85:193,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,148,68955,5,6,0:0:0:0:
72,132,69055,2,0,P|56:68|116:36,1,137.5,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
282,41,69355,2,0,B|242:97|242:97|174:97,1,137.5,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
106,97,69655,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,196,69755,2,0,L|328:156,1,68.75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
234,147,69955,2,0,L|178:187,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
358,299,70155,2,0,L|306:247,1,68.75,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
214,355,70355,2,0,L|266:303,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,196,70555,6,0,L|408:128,1,55,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,196,70755,2,0,L|276:128,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,196,70955,2,0,L|388:148,1,55,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
238,196,71155,2,0,L|278:148,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,196,71355,2,0,L|480:152,1,55,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,196,71555,2,0,L|268:152,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
444,196,71755,2,0,L|500:196,1,55,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,196,71955,2,0,L|272:196,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,192,72155,5,4,0:0:0:0:
232,192,72355,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,192,72455,1,2,0:0:0:0:
232,192,72555,2,0,P|176:208|144:276,1,137.5,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
420,276,72955,2,0,P|484:248|488:184,1,137.5,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
420,188,73255,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,192,73355,2,0,L|172:156,1,68.75,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,140,73555,2,0,L|296:80,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,156,73755,6,0,P|84:220|124:264,1,137.5,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,264,74055,1,2,0:0:0:0:
372,264,74155,2,0,L|256:192,1,137.5,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
68,324,74555,2,0,B|136:324|136:324|188:264,1,137.5,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,272,74855,1,2,0:0:0:0:
304,192,74955,2,0,L|376:192,1,68.75,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,192,75155,2,0,L|228:140,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,75355,6,0,L|172:100,2,137.5,6|2|14,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,192,75955,1,2,0:0:0:0:
16,192,76155,2,0,P|32:256|92:288,1,137.5,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,288,76455,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,192,76555,2,0,P|296:144|220:120,1,137.5,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
484,192,76955,5,6,0:0:0:0:
220,192,77155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,192,77355,1,12,0:0:0:0:
68,192,77555,2,0,L|16:240,1,68.75,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,77755,2,0,L|260:256,1,68.75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,240,77955,2,0,L|143:190,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,192,78155,2,0,L|452:192,1,137.5,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,192,78555,6,0,P|76:152|120:104,1,137.5,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,108,78955,1,12,0:0:0:0:
152,272,79155,2,0,L|88:240,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,192,79355,2,0,L|332:192,1,68.75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,272,79555,2,0,L|72:272,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,332,79755,2,0,B|244:272|244:272|173:272,1,137.5,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
452,332,80155,6,0,P|432:272|368:240,1,137.5,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,240,80555,1,12,0:0:0:0:
308,240,80755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
240,240,80855,1,0,0:0:0:0:
68,244,80955,2,0,B|112:192|112:192|184:192,1,137.5,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
460,192,81355,2,0,L|316:192,1,137.5,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,192,81755,6,0,P|20:140|56:76,1,137.5,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,76,82055,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,76,82155,1,14,0:0:0:0:
172,76,82355,2,0,L|116:116,1,68.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,112,82555,1,6,0:0:0:0:
164,112,82755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
428,112,82955,1,14,0:0:0:0:
144,112,83155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
460,112,83355,6,0,P|480:172|440:228,1,137.5,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,228,83655,1,0,0:0:0:0:
196,228,83755,2,0,L|320:164,1,137.5,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
44,112,84155,2,0,L|183:112,1,137.5,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
446,112,84555,5,14,0:0:0:0:
256,192,84755,12,0,85955,0:0:0:0:
440,192,86155,5,0,0:0:0:0:
72,192,86555,5,4,0:0:0:0:

Something I noticed on the Hard diff: 00:08:355 (1) - 00:11:555 (1) - 00:38:755 (1) - pretty sure these are 4 x 1/8 instead of 1/6, they sound really weird to me starting on the red tick. If it's intentionally done as simplification, I think just a 1/4 slider would be a better option in each case.
Seijiro
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Seijiro
I mapped them too and I can confirm they are 1/8 and not 1/6.
There are some 1/6 too, but not there lol
Ongaku
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Topic Starter
Ongaku
00:08:355 - Ill say this is 1/6, but looking at 00:11:555 - and 00:38:755 - are 1/8th.

For some reason, 00:08:355 - has a different snap than the other two, hence the the 1/8 repeat in my diff at 00:11:605 - and 00:38:755 - . I'll discuss about it with Mir.
Seijiro
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Seijiro
am I late for the party? :^)

http://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/pJTtgCwI.rar
Xinnoh
Elite Mapper
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Xinnoh
Top diffs on both modes look fantastic, hyped to see when the set gets ranked

00:06:955 (1) - Slider head is late but tail is early, sounds really weird, variable bpm time it
Final spinner hitsound implies there's a rhythm when there isn't, would suggest a quieter hitsound or just use default soft-normal

Rain
  1. 00:08:505 (3) - Better aesthetics if moved 2 grid spaces over for curve shape, apply this to other similar triples
  2. 00:15:355 (3,4,5) - Would flow to the right better if 4 was further to or closer to 3, lets the player go left a little before turning right
  3. 00:19:155 (5,1,2) - No hyperdash despite similar sound before :thinking:
  4. 00:23:555 (6) - Stream flows better if moved left a little and 6 has a decreased slider angle
  5. 00:24:855 (3,4) - Spacing seems pretty small for these lyrics
  6. 00:25:755 (1) - Flows better if angled because has a sharp angle currently
  7. 00:29:955 (6,7,8) - Flows better if moved further from 5, and could decrease either slider angles or distance snaps, looks a little messy but playable
  8. 00:34:555 (3,4,5,6,1) - Something odd about flow here but not sure how to describe xp
  9. 00:42:355 (2) - Might be better if further because you used lots of dashes in the previous section
  10. 00:43:955 (2) - Just leave this straight/vertical would be better
  11. 00:44:355 (3) - Move left more for better dash leniancy
  12. 00:48:555 (3) - Dashes into sudden flow break by low slider velocity is probably an issue
  13. 00:50:155 (2) - Walk seems a bit close, just move slider head further but keep tail position
  14. 00:54:555 (1,2) - Increase spacing a little, better dash leniancy
  15. 01:03:355 (7) - I see what you're doing here but it'd be better if slider head was closer because it's further compared to other dashes
  16. 01:06:355 (2) - Change spacing around a bit, the dash should be from 1-2, not 2-3 because hitsounds + vocals
  17. 01:10:155 (6,7) - Spaced too close
  18. 01:12:155 (1,2,3,4) - Should that all be walkable?
  19. 01:14:555 (3,4) - That's definetaly spaced too close
  20. 01:24:155 (4) - Keep that SV jump but nerf the distance a little to compensate
  21. 01:26:155 (1) - Although the final bananas are on the right, the platter is still on the left side due to higher density + has the better spin for score. Just move it to the middle to compensate for both sides, or just left to keep the dash
Did I not mod overdose
Ongaku requested a mod on my queue, this wasn't freemod
00:59:755 (3,4) - Might be too far just because of the previous spacings that you used
01:01:755 (3,4) - Reduce distance because this action is a walk, so could have less spacing
01:03:155 (6,7) - Definetaly too far for hyper to large dash
01:06:355 (2) - Same as rain, should be farther
01:10:555 (1,2) - Edge dash?
nice
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Ongaku
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Ongaku

Sinnoh wrote:

oh boy i refreshed the page while modding, round 2 here we go

00:06:955 (1) - Slider head is late but tail is early, sounds really weird, variable bpm time it
Final spinner hitsound implies there's a rhythm when there isn't, would suggest a quieter hitsound or just use default soft-normal

gotcha
JBHyperion
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Sinnoh wrote:

Top diffs on both modes look fantastic, hyped to see when the set gets ranked

00:06:955 (1) - Slider head is late but tail is early, sounds really weird, variable bpm time it handled
Final spinner hitsound implies there's a rhythm when there isn't, would suggest a quieter hitsound or just use default soft-normal defaulted

Rain
  1. 00:08:505 (3) - Better aesthetics if moved 2 grid spaces over for curve shape, apply this to other similar triples Made better curves on the ones that weren't intentionally linear e.g. 00:35:555 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
  2. 00:15:355 (3,4,5) - Would flow to the right better if 4 was further to or closer to 3, lets the player go left a little before turning right I feel this curve plays nicely, DS increasing by 0.4 each time, and the 1/2 spacing is comfortable enough to allow a little overshoot without being uncomfortable
  3. 00:19:155 (5,1,2) - No hyperdash despite similar sound before :thinking: added hdash on 00:19:155 (5,1) - and removed some of the antiflow to keep it roughly the same in terms of difficulty
  4. 00:23:555 (6) - Stream flows better if moved left a little and 6 has a decreased slider angle Angled (6) and reduced hyper strength on 00:23:155 (4,5) - slightly
  5. 00:24:855 (3,4) - Spacing seems pretty small for these lyrics Spaced these out similar to 00:25:755 (1,2,3) - whilst (semi)-losing a dash on 00:25:355 (5,6) -
  6. 00:25:755 (1) - Flows better if angled because has a sharp angle currently Done
  7. 00:29:955 (6,7,8) - Flows better if moved further from 5, and could decrease either slider angles or distance snaps, looks a little messy but playable I like the alternating pattern, but fair enough reduced it a little
  8. 00:34:555 (3,4,5,6,1) - Something odd about flow here but not sure how to describe xp Direction changes used for the vocal pitch change, dashes used for the clap sounds
  9. 00:42:355 (2) - Might be better if further because you used lots of dashes in the previous section I feel this distance is fits well when compared to the surrounding spacing/intensity correlation
  10. 00:43:955 (2) - Just leave this straight/vertical would be better Doesn't make a huge difference tbh, but I like the lead-in of flow the curve provides
  11. 00:44:355 (3) - Move left more for better dash leniancy Fixed by curvuing the above a little more and moving (3) left
  12. 00:48:555 (3) - Dashes into sudden flow break by low slider velocity is probably an issue Flipped (3) and increased spacing/SV for better flow
  13. 00:50:155 (2) - Walk seems a bit close, just move slider head further but keep tail position Done
  14. 00:54:555 (1,2) - Increase spacing a little, better dash leniancy Ye
  15. 01:03:355 (7) - I see what you're doing here but it'd be better if slider head was closer because it's further compared to other dashes 1.6x is a fairly standard dash spacing used throughout the kiai here, I feel this is fine
  16. 01:06:355 (2) - Change spacing around a bit, the dash should be from 1-2, not 2-3 because hitsounds + vocals K, made consistent
  17. 01:10:155 (6,7) - Spaced too close Buffed a little, but don't want this to be too hard right after the 1/4 hyper 01:09:355 (3,4) -
  18. 01:12:155 (1,2,3,4) - Should that all be walkable? Vocal is more subdued here and I want a little rest-type spot after the previous hyper pattern
  19. 01:14:555 (3,4) - That's definetaly spaced too close Whoops, fixed
  20. 01:24:155 (4) - Keep that SV jump but nerf the distance a little to compensate Just moved 01:24:155 (4,1) - left slightly
  21. 01:26:155 (1) - Although the final bananas are on the right, the platter is still on the left side due to higher density + has the better spin for score. Just move it to the middle to compensate for both sides, or just left to keep the dash The final bananas are in the centre, leading right, so no matter what path you took before you're more inclined to go right here than left
R.e. added stuff for Overdose - fixed all xd

Thanks for the suggestions!

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Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ongaku
01:26:155 - If you're talking about the hitsound here, it does have a note that can be hitsounded. Even if it didnt, hitsounding doesn't have a boundery in terms of creativity, the hitsound here would still make sense in a way.
Flower Shop
84 posts
Joined July 2013
Flower Shop
Sore wa
Really fun map, just a few things
00:10:355 (4,5,1) - This might play better if this triple was going to the right slightly
00:13:555 (4,5,6,7) - Maybe make 7 spaced a bit more from the triple, the last one had a higher spacing
00:58:755 (1,2) - I think removing 2 here would stress the sound better
MrSergio's Insane
Also really fun!
00:54:555 (3,4) - Reduce spacing here, it was smaller earlier for the same sound and this surprised me in my play
00:56:155 (1,2,3,4) - I don't think these sliders quite do justice to the strength of the sounds. Maybe increase spacing and make 1,2 go opposite directions (same with 3,4)
General
I think you guys should also take a look at the AiMod stuff maybe
https://puu.sh/toHiW/2ef882fb47.png
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ongaku

Suzy- wrote:

Sore wa
Really fun map, just a few things
00:10:355 (4,5,1) - This might play better if this triple was going to the right slightly did something else
00:13:555 (4,5,6,7) - Maybe make 7 spaced a bit more from the triple, the last one had a higher spacing k
00:58:755 (1,2) - I think removing 2 here would stress the sound better made it into a slider, but I'm keeping the 1/4 pattern. You can hear it in the bg, and i want to express the song to it's fullest.

General
I think you guys should also take a look at the AiMod stuff maybe
https://puu.sh/toHiW/2ef882fb47.png whoops, it was my job to make sure they were correct.
Thanks so much!
Seijiro
osu! Alumni
3,438 posts
Joined April 2013
Seijiro
Suzy-
Reduced that jump
Didn't fix the second one since my focus was on drum kicks and not vocals :p


Also talked with maarten in PM and fixed some other things
Update: http://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/ko6xrOOv.osu


PS: fixed the first object with a proper SV :p
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ongaku
sergio whats wrong with bancho
Last edited by Seijiro , edited 1 time in total.
Marethyu
14 posts
Joined January 2014
Marethyu
irc with Sergio
2017-01-17 16:46 maarten1278: 00:54:555 (3,4) -
2017-01-17 16:46 maarten1278: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1181521 REOL - YoiYoi Kokon [MrSergio's Insane]]
2017-01-17 16:46 maarten1278: Too sudden lol
2017-01-17 16:47 MrSergio: 00:51:355 (3,4) - it's slightly bigger than this tho :thinking:
2017-01-17 16:47 MrSergio: should I reduce it?
2017-01-17 16:47 maarten1278: yes
2017-01-17 16:47 maarten1278: This is a really calm section
2017-01-17 16:48 maarten1278: 1/2 + big spacing
2017-01-17 16:48 MrSergio: ok, slightly reduced, similar to the other onw
2017-01-17 16:48 MrSergio: well, it was more for emphasis, since those are the stronger beats of all the song probably
2017-01-17 16:48 maarten1278: Did you change 00:55:355 (5) -
2017-01-17 16:49 MrSergio: 00:54:555 (3,4) - reduced thos
2017-01-17 16:49 MrSergio: i
2017-01-17 16:49 maarten1278: But 5 is stacked on 4...
2017-01-17 16:50 MrSergio: yeah, I moved 3
2017-01-17 16:50 MrSergio: :p
2017-01-17 16:50 maarten1278: o
2017-01-17 16:50 MrSergio: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7082313 I used the overlap I use everywhere else in the map
2017-01-17 16:51 MrSergio: like... 00:59:655 (2,3) -
2017-01-17 16:51 MrSergio: and such
2017-01-17 16:51 maarten1278: right
2017-01-17 16:51 maarten1278: 01:07:355 (1,2,3,4) - What's with emphasis herer?
2017-01-17 16:51 maarten1278: * Here
2017-01-17 16:52 MrSergio: ah, that might need reworking. It was meant to follow better vocals, but since it was a remake of a remaked pattern I was kind of forced in that angle of the playfield
2017-01-17 16:53 MrSergio: when I tried remapping that one I had 01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - already this mapped and it worked so well that I didn't want to change it
2017-01-17 16:53 MrSergio: and that's the result
2017-01-17 16:53 MrSergio: wait, I just had an idea
2017-01-17 16:54 MrSergio: I can take 01:19:355 (1,2,3,4) - this and make a similar pattern
2017-01-17 16:54 MrSergio: umh... this might work out
2017-01-17 16:54 maarten1278: That would work
2017-01-17 16:54 maarten1278: It at least has the right emphasis
2017-01-17 16:55 MrSergio: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7082351 ?]
2017-01-17 16:56 maarten1278: nice
2017-01-17 16:56 MrSergio: or maybe...
2017-01-17 16:56 MrSergio: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7082359
2017-01-17 16:56 MrSergio: so I also blanket 4 with the next slider
2017-01-17 16:58 maarten1278: But now 3 is roughly equal to 4 in spacing
2017-01-17 16:58 MrSergio: yeah
2017-01-17 16:58 MrSergio: I'll re-attach 4 to 3
2017-01-17 16:59 maarten1278: 01:15:755 (3,4) - I haven't seen a 1/2 stack with 2 vocals yet
2017-01-17 17:00 maarten1278: nvm
2017-01-17 17:02 maarten1278: 00:08:421 (2) -
2017-01-17 17:02 maarten1278: It really is 1/6
2017-01-17 17:04 MrSergio: 01:15:755 (3,4) - as for this. In this section I keep switching back and fort from vocals to instruments and viceversa to create a more intense rhythm (it's kiai time after all)
2017-01-17 17:04 MrSergio: the stack was meant to be a challenge since I kept doing differently for that
2017-01-17 17:04 MrSergio: oh shit, that's 1/6 for real
2017-01-17 17:04 MrSergio: aaaa
2017-01-17 17:05 maarten1278: All of them are
2017-01-17 17:06 MrSergio: damn
2017-01-17 17:08 maarten1278: 00:11:655 (2) - is 1/8 , but one more tick
2017-01-17 17:08 maarten1278: Like the top diff
2017-01-17 17:08 MrSergio: 00:11:755 - there;s a clap here tho (unless it's the hitsounding)
2017-01-17 17:09 MrSergio: ah, wait
2017-01-17 17:09 MrSergio: osu is drunk
2017-01-17 17:09 MrSergio: it didn't recognize the snap
2017-01-17 17:10 MrSergio: I'll keep that on 1/6 too I guess tho, since it will be too complex and the difference is not that noticeable thanks to the slider having a larger hit window (you can get a 300 even if you hit a lot early or later)
2017-01-17 17:11 maarten1278: 00:20:155 (4,1) - Is that supposed to be a blanket?
2017-01-17 17:11 MrSergio: more or less xD
2017-01-17 17:12 MrSergio: ah damn, I gotta go pick up my little brother from school
2017-01-17 17:12 MrSergio: leave here the rest, I'll come back in around 15 minutes
2017-01-17 17:12 maarten1278: That's quick
As extra:
00:20:155 (4,8) - Examples of slightly wrong blankets. Fix them all pls.
00:31:755 (6,7) - The difference in spacing is too big imo. They are the same sound.
00:46:555 - Really nice switching here.
00:38:805 - You should put a 1/8 slider here, look at Ongakus diff.
Riari
743 posts
Joined April 2013
Riari
ora ora ora

[Hyperion's Rain]
  1. 00:16:155 (1) - Make moving into this a strong dash instead? 00:16:355 (2) - feels more intense, but they both hyper at the same distance. 00:16:355 (2) - is also safer as a hyper because it is a slider, allowing excess movement at the end. Both hypering makes the latter note feel less important too, and this is the dumb sort of stuff Ascendance puts in his overdoses for no reason. Although it does fit, I feel like hypers should be clearer in this difficulty compared to the Overdose.
  2. 00:16:755 (3,4) - Hyper into 00:16:955 (4) - ? Consistency creates good flow with 00:16:355 (2) - , the movement as it is now sounds really off and pretty lacking, you hyper at 00:17:555 (6,1) - which is the same intensity. I think applying this and the point above work better together than what you have now, using this change and not applying the one above wouldn't work as well as the hyper density would suck for this part of the song, especially in a Rain.
  3. 00:24:955 (4) - Instead of continuing in the same direction here, consider making it a direction change? With a strong drum beat here (similar to 00:24:555 (2) - ) there is very little movement to show the intensity of the note. A direction change here would fit the janky style of the song as the density is not consistent.
  4. 00:26:155 (3) - Same suggestion as above, small spacing in the same direction, applying both and ctrl+h everything between and it continues fine into 00:27:355 (1) - . 00:27:755 (2,3,4) - is a good example of what I think works nicely.
  5. 00:48:555 (3) - This feels a bit too long, taking away from the feeling of the section. Parts such as 00:46:555 (1,2,3) - give off a feeling of a psuedo slow section, but long repeaters like this take away from it and look pretty ugly. Focusing upon points such as 00:48:555 - and 00:48:955 - instead with shorter notes creates a better and more consistent aesthetic than what you have now.
  6. 01:26:155 (1,1) - Could consider stacking them instead, not much difference but I like it more.
[Overdose]
  1. 00:23:755 (8) - Consider spacing this like you did with 00:23:355 (6) - and 00:24:155 (1) - ? I don't think there is a need to worry about the extra hyper here being a problem, it's consistent and not a massive difficulty spike to add.
  2. 00:34:955 (5,6) - Consider moving these to the left a bit so that 00:34:755 (4,5) - hypers? 00:34:955 - is a really strong beat and the hyper going into 00:35:355 (1) - shouldn't be much of a problem for the player considering the overall difficulty of this map.
  3. 00:41:755 (1,2,3,4) - as a single direction walk this feels a bit boring, consider changing direction at 00:42:155 (3) - to emphasize how strong the sound is, instead of leaving it in a simple walk.
  4. 00:42:955 (7,8) - These two notes shouldn't have the same spacing. 00:42:955 (7) - is a much stronger sound, but is (marginally) shorter than 00:43:155 (8) - . Keep the hyper for 00:42:955 (7) - but remove it for 00:43:155 (8) - ? I understand this flows well as chain hypers going into 00:43:355 (1) - but I feel that removing the middle hyper (00:43:155 (8) - in this case) would represent the style of the song and its awkwardness a lot better.
  5. 01:10:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - pp xD
  6. 01:10:555 (1,2) - These don't hyper, increase the distance so it's consistent with the rest of your sore sore sore sore.
  7. 01:26:155 (1,1) - Similar suggestion to the Rain, I like stacking these a lot. Otherwise I would reduce the distance. It fits, but the intensity has gone and I don't think such a big distance is fun to play at the end of a map like this.
JBHyperion
osu!catch Paragon
3,885 posts
Joined September 2014
JBHyperion

Riari wrote:

ora ora ora ora

[Hyperion's Rain]
  1. 00:16:155 (1) - Make moving into this a strong dash instead? 00:16:355 (2) - feels more intense, but they both hyper at the same distance. 00:16:355 (2) - is also safer as a hyper because it is a slider, allowing excess movement at the end. Both hypering makes the latter note feel less important too, and this is the dumb sort of stuff Ascendance puts in his overdoses for no reason. Although it does fit, I feel like hypers should be clearer in this difficulty compared to the Overdose. Decided to just make these strong regular dashes instead for consistency with next point
  2. 00:16:755 (3,4) - Hyper into 00:16:955 (4) - ? Consistency creates good flow with 00:16:355 (2) - , the movement as it is now sounds really off and pretty lacking, you hyper at 00:17:555 (6,1) - which is the same intensity. I think applying this and the point above work better together than what you have now, using this change and not applying the one above wouldn't work as well as the hyper density would suck for this part of the song, especially in a Rain. This pairs with 00:15:155 (2,3) - in terms of intensity, and hypering all of them would be too much for this calmer intro section, I'll stick to regular dashes
  3. 00:24:955 (4) - Instead of continuing in the same direction here, consider making it a direction change? With a strong drum beat here (similar to 00:24:555 (2) - ) there is very little movement to show the intensity of the note. A direction change here would fit the janky style of the song as the density is not consistent. Done here and at 00:26:055 (2,3) -
  4. 00:26:155 (3) - Same suggestion as above, small spacing in the same direction, applying both and ctrl+h everything between and it continues fine into 00:27:355 (1) - . 00:27:755 (2,3,4) - is a good example of what I think works nicely. Fixed with above lol
  5. 00:48:555 (3) - This feels a bit too long, taking away from the feeling of the section. Parts such as 00:46:555 (1,2,3) - give off a feeling of a psuedo slow section, but long repeaters like this take away from it and look pretty ugly. Focusing upon points such as 00:48:555 - and 00:48:955 - instead with shorter notes creates a better and more consistent aesthetic than what you have now. Yeah I tried to fix this before but it's still naff, switched it out for consistency with similar parts
  6. 01:26:155 (1,1) - Could consider stacking them instead, not much difference but I like it more. I prefer a dash here, 01:26:555 (1) - is strong and a stack would feel anticlimactic to me
[Overdose]
  1. 00:23:755 (8) - Consider spacing this like you did with 00:23:355 (6) - and 00:24:155 (1) - ? I don't think there is a need to worry about the extra hyper here being a problem, it's consistent and not a massive difficulty spike to add. Done
  2. 00:34:955 (5,6) - Consider moving these to the left a bit so that 00:34:755 (4,5) - hypers? 00:34:955 - is a really strong beat and the hyper going into 00:35:355 (1) - shouldn't be much of a problem for the player considering the overall difficulty of this map. Ctrl+H'd 00:34:555 (3,4) -
  3. 00:41:755 (1,2,3,4) - as a single direction walk this feels a bit boring, consider changing direction at 00:42:155 (3) - to emphasize how strong the sound is, instead of leaving it in a simple walk. Did same as above
  4. 00:42:955 (7,8) - These two notes shouldn't have the same spacing. 00:42:955 (7) - is a much stronger sound, but is (marginally) shorter than 00:43:155 (8) - . Keep the hyper for 00:42:955 (7) - but remove it for 00:43:155 (8) - ? I understand this flows well as chain hypers going into 00:43:355 (1) - but I feel that removing the middle hyper (00:43:155 (8) - in this case) would represent the style of the song and its awkwardness a lot better. Sure
  5. 01:10:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - pp xD deal with it
  6. 01:10:555 (1,2) - These don't hyper, increase the distance so it's consistent with the rest of your sore sore sore sore. I swear I have "fixed" this like 3 times now and it keeps breaking again wtf
  7. 01:26:155 (1,1) - Similar suggestion to the Rain, I like stacking these a lot. Otherwise I would reduce the distance. It fits, but the intensity has gone and I don't think such a big distance is fun to play at the end of a map like this. Same reasoning as Rain, I much prefer a jump here, and the spacing is exactly the same, bar smaller CS. Shouldn't be an issue for players at this level imo
Thanks for the mod!

Rain
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Nostalgic_old
597 posts
Joined January 2013
Nostalgic_old
o/ m4m! Here is my map

General
[General]
  1. Disable widescreen support
  2. Combo colour not synchronized. Also don't you think they are just too similar?

Sore wa
[Sore wa]
  1. unsnapped objects
  2. 00:08:421 (2,3,4) - 00:14:355 (1,2,3) - I'd recommend making them all repeat sliders. The ds difference is not enough for players to notice the 1/3 snapping change imo.
  3. 00:20:355 (2,3) - the spacing here is a bit confusing. I thought they were 1/2 apart while playing
  4. 00:28:755 (2,1) - stack the sliderend?
  5. softhitwhistle7 is a bit too overused especially this iteration 01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6)
  6. A very fun map indeed :)

Mir's Hard
[Mir]
  1. 00:06:946 - 00:07:054 highly recommend you to map the drum sound
  2. 00:44:555 (3,1) - Trivial stuff: something like that to blanket 3?
  3. 00:52:555 (1) - What is this sliderend snapping?
  4. And again softhitwhistle7 is a bit too loud and overused
  5. 01:08:955 (1,2,3,4) - Why not all 3/4 sliders?

Good luck :)
Seijiro
osu! Alumni
3,438 posts
Joined April 2013
Seijiro
I fixed something on my own meanwhile

@maarten
tried fixing blankets lol
00:31:355 (5,6,7) - the spacing decreasing from 5 till 7 makes it not so noticeable, even tho 6 and 7 are the same :p
for 00:38:755 - it's either a 1/8 repeat slider or a more comfortable stream for circle that simplify the rhythm (they won't notice the difference anyway, it's always a bunch of beats no matter how you look at it lol)


ayy
osu file format v14

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[Metadata]
Title:YoiYoi Kokon
TitleUnicode:宵々古今
Artist:REOL
ArtistUnicode:REOL
Creator:Ongaku
Version:MrSergio's Insane
Source:
Tags:jbhyperion mrsergio mir sigma giga
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Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ongaku

Nostalgic wrote:

o/ m4m! Here is my map

General
[General]
  1. Disable widescreen support unnecessary
  2. Combo colour not synchronized. Also don't you think they are just too similar?
changed

Sore wa
[Sore wa]
  1. unsnapped objects oops
  2. 00:08:421 (2,3,4) - 00:14:355 (1,2,3) - I'd recommend making them all repeat sliders. The ds difference is not enough for players to notice the 1/3 snapping change imo. will change one of them
  3. 00:20:355 (2,3) - the spacing here is a bit confusing. I thought they were 1/2 apart while playing plays fine if you can read it
  4. 00:28:755 (2,1) - stack the sliderend? nah
  5. softhitwhistle7 is a bit too overused especially this iteration 01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) the whistles are there to follow the vocals, hence the whistles all over the map
  6. A very fun map indeed :) thank you!

Good luck :)
thanks!
Mir
osu! Alumni
2,152 posts
Joined July 2016
Mir

Nostalgic wrote:

o/ m4m! Here is my map
[Mir]
  1. 00:06:946 - 00:07:054 highly recommend you to map the drum sound
  2. 00:44:555 (3,1) - Trivial stuff: something like that to blanket 3? - no but i centered the 3 more
  3. 00:52:555 (1) - What is this sliderend snapping? - it's creative that's what it is. Gives more of a pull effect into the next note. The bpm is slow enough that this works imo but if it becomes a problem i'll shorten it
  4. And again softhitwhistle7 is a bit too loud and overused - ongaku pls
  5. 01:08:955 (1,2,3,4) - Why not all 3/4 sliders? - dont wanna skip 01:09:955 - this beat

Good luck :)
updateo: https://puu.sh/tNcve/ffd0702236.osu
Nao Tomori
osu! Alumni
3,106 posts
Joined December 2014
Nao Tomori
posting for kds from discord mod

cant put star icon rip

http://puu.sh/tQ5Vc/f7dddd4732.png

cant get kds either holy
Aniviuh
216 posts
Joined January 2015
Aniviuh
- Easy -
When mapping easies you can only use 1 slider velocity throughout the map. Also one DS typically 1.0x. Try to keep under 1.5. Avoid overlapping. (Is just a geral suggestion when making easies. Try to avoid making anything remotely difficult.) Also the circle size is way too big. At this size it's just unnecessary.
00:17:555 (2,1) - Overlapping/stacking. Too intense for an easy. Example.
00:20:955 (1) - SV change. Not only that it's a huge jump from .75 to 1.5. Example.

Your other difficulties are great, don't let this discourage you.

Good luck on your journey!
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ongaku

ViolentBoo wrote:

- Easy -
When mapping easies you can only use 1 slider velocity throughout the map. Also one DS typically 1.0x. Try to keep under 1.5. Avoid overlapping. (Is just a geral suggestion when making easies. Try to avoid making anything remotely difficult.) Also the circle size is way too big. At this size it's just unnecessary. I wouldnt say you can "only use 1.0 SV." Overlaps shouldn't be a bit problem, unless its a note UNDER a slider, then yes, its a problem.
00:17:555 (2,1) - Overlapping/stacking. Too intense for an easy. Example. its 1/2 and players should be able to tell since the circle note is above the slider. but, i will change the CS.
00:20:955 (1) - SV change. Not only that it's a huge jump from .75 to 1.5. Example. the intro is .75, because it is the intro. its not changing anywhere else (other than the SV changes that arent mapped).

Your other difficulties are great, don't let this discourage you.

Good luck on your journey!
Thanks for the input
Jensen
63 posts
Joined July 2014
Jensen
Sore wa

Hi there friend, to start I would like to say I really like the idea you're going for with this difficulty overall. You emphasize the slider flow and reading patterns in a very unique and interesting way, and a change in said flow when the music supports this it. Though you do this well, there are a few places where this flow change is not consistent in the way that is was previously represented.

The beginning section of the map, from 00:06:946 (1) - to 00:17:755 (1) has a large amount of awkward patterns that do not make very much sense when being compared to later parts of the map. Despite the music obviously changing, I feel they are less of a representation of the music and more like unpolished patterns that look a bit rushed or incomplete. Examples of this would be 00:16:155 (1,2,3) -, where the pattern is visually awkward with difficult play ability for no obvious reason when compared to the previously two and the following (00:14:555 (1,2,3) - 00:15:355 (1,2,3) - 00:16:955 (1,2,3) -) pattern(s). The music here does not support such a large spacing/angle change.
Another pattern not quite understandable is 00:10:955 (3,4,1) -, the straight line these circles travel in is visually out of place when compared to the previous pattern. When you have patterns at different angles and offsetting eachother like 00:08:955 (1,2,3,4,1,2) -, it's odd to have a pattern immediately following that supports and entirely different idea.

0:20:355 (2,3,4) - works very well as a transition, great work on this.

As previously mentioned, the flow changes are clearly demonstrated at the end of each measure in the music, but there are a few things to point out here.

00:24:855 (4,1) - Having the slider in this position creates a very uncomfortable motion when compared to previously similar patterns. Using the same shape and direction sliders as 00:24:155 (1,2) - does not make very much sense to me. It breaks the concept that the map uses, example being the two slider body shapes at 00:22:555 (1,1), the pattern before this. The difference between the last slider in the section (00:22:755 (2) - ) and the first slider in the next section (00:23:355 (1) - ) makes sense. I recommend a change to something like this http://puu.sh/tY0TF.jpg, where the flow can still break when moving into 00:25:355 (3,4) - like previously used, but also allows the movement to be far less uncomfortable. Regardless, a change to increase the quality of this section is important.

01:20:155 (6,1) - the nc's throughout this section seem a bit off, you may want to revise them.

Apologies for the wall of text, love the diff overall. Good luck on rank! :D
Ongaku
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Jensen wrote:

Sore wa

Hi there friend, to start I would like to say I really like the idea you're going for with this difficulty overall. You emphasize the slider flow and reading patterns in a very unique and interesting way, and a change in said flow when the music supports this it. Though you do this well, there are a few places where this flow change is not consistent in the way that is was previously represented.

The beginning section of the map, from 00:06:946 (1) - to 00:17:755 (1) has a large amount of awkward patterns that do not make very much sense when being compared to later parts of the map. Despite the music obviously changing, I feel they are less of a representation of the music and more like unpolished patterns that look a bit rushed or incomplete. Examples of this would be 00:16:155 (1,2,3) -, where the pattern is visually awkward with difficult play ability for no obvious reason when compared to the previously two and the following (00:14:555 (1,2,3) - 00:15:355 (1,2,3) - 00:16:955 (1,2,3) -) pattern(s). The music here does not support such a large spacing/angle change.

00:14:555 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - are the same, until the drums 00:16:155 (1,2,3,4) - here. 00:16:155 (1,2) - is there to make the drums distinct from 00:15:355 (1,2,3,4) - , plus the angle. I did change a few things in the intro.
00:10:955 (3,4,1) - about these, i interpret these as 00:10:955 (3,4) - building up to the next measure for 00:11:355 (1) - , which is why I made the DS consistent with those three notes.

Another pattern not quite understandable is 00:10:955 (3,4,1) -, the straight line these circles travel in is visually out of place when compared to the previous pattern. When you have patterns at different angles and offsetting eachother like 00:08:955 (1,2,3,4,1,2) -, it's odd to have a pattern immediately following that supports and entirely different idea.

00:08:955 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - emphasizes on the strings going lower, hence the visually decreasing notes. 00:09:755 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - on the other hand, is a new measure with the strings beginning to vary, which is why I decided to change the pattern.

0:20:355 (2,3,4) - works very well as a transition, great work on this. Thank you

As previously mentioned, the flow changes are clearly demonstrated at the end of each measure in the music, but there are a few things to point out here.

00:24:855 (4,1) - Having the slider in this position creates a very uncomfortable motion when compared to previously similar patterns. Using the same shape and direction sliders as 00:24:155 (1,2) - does not make very much sense to me. It breaks the concept that the map uses, example being the two slider body shapes at 00:22:555 (1,1), the pattern before this. The difference between the last slider in the section (00:22:755 (2) - ) and the first slider in the next section (00:23:355 (1) - ) makes sense. I recommend a change to something like this http://puu.sh/tY0TF.jpg, where the flow can still break when moving into 00:25:355 (3,4) - like previously used, but also allows the movement to be far less uncomfortable. Regardless, a change to increase the quality of this section is important.

00:24:855 (4,1) - I did fix the consistency of these by decreasing the DS from 00:24:555 (3) - , making them about 1.0.
00:24:155 (1,2) - I'll say this doesn't break the concept. This pattern is within the vocalist's first verse, hence the 00:21:755 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - and 00:28:155 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - on the beginning of each verse.
00:25:355 (3,4) - regarding these, i increased the DS.

01:20:155 (6,1) - the nc's throughout this section seem a bit off, you may want to revise them.

seems fine to me. 01:17:755 - resets the NC with this specific verse, including 01:19:155 - . 01:20:755 - I did, however, NC'd this.
01:21:755 - I also NC'd this because it starts on a big white tick, besides the combo is too long from 01:20:755 - .

Apologies for the wall of text, love the diff overall. Good luck on rank! :D

Thank you so much for the input!
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SLM
Hello, from this post


[Easy]

* 00:08:155 (1,2,3) - Just a suggestion, maybe you could rotate this for a smoother flow.
http://puu.sh/u9KBU/fee49d2d31.jpg

* 00:25:755 (3) - NC, 00:26:755 (3) - remove NC

* 00:44:955 (3) - NC

* 00:54:555 (1) - unnecessary NC imo

* 00:57:755 (3) - ds error? It's quite noticable, I see you used 1.0x snap at 1.5x sv, but it's 1.34x without the green line.
http://puu.sh/u9L1r/484a48a4f8.jpg


[Normal]

* 00:16:955 (4) - Very confusing as a 1/2 gap from (3), cuz the spacing looks visually similar.

* 00:19:355 (1) - 00:19:955 (3) - 00:36:155 (3) - ^

* and lots of other objects throughout the map ^
e.g
00:25:755 (1,2,3,1,2) - they're switching between 1/2 and 1/1 but spaced same
00:49:755 (1) - 1/2 gap, 00:50:955 (3) - 1/1 gap but they visually look almost same.
00:52:155 (6,7,1) - ^
You should really rearrange those imo.

* 00:22:555 (4) - NC

* 00:25:755 (4) - 00:43:355 (3) - 00:44:955 (5) - 00:51:355 (4) - ^

* 00:57:755 (1,1) - Kinda ugly overlap.

* 01:00:455 (2) - Shouldn't this start at 01:00:555 - ? There is a super strong sound at 01:00:555 - that you can't just skip it.
Even the Hard is skipping the sound at 01:00:455 -.
If you really want to map 01:00:455 - , maybe change the rhythm like this. http://puu.sh/u9MvS/fee204db21.jpg

* 01:02:055 (2) - 01:03:655 (2) - and etc - ^


[Mir's Hard]

* 00:06:946 (1,2) - maybe make this into a slider? for the sake of the diff spread with Insane.

* 00:26:755 (4) - spaced too much imo

* 00:52:555 (1) - silence the sliderend?


[MrSergio's Insane]


* 00:06:946 (1) - Aimod says unsnapped, but idk.

* 00:24:155 (3) - 00:25:755 (5) - NCs should be placed here imo

* 00:30:555 (1,2) - Maybe seperate them since almost every stacks you used before this were 1/4.

* 00:32:155 (1) - ^ same reason, maybe ctrl+g?

* 01:21:755 (4) - NC


[Sore wa]
cool diff


That's all from me, Good luck!
Mir
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SLM wrote:

Hello, from this post
[Mir's Hard]

* 00:06:946 (1,2) - maybe make this into a slider? for the sake of the diff spread with Insane.

* 00:26:755 (4) - spaced too much imo

* 00:52:555 (1) - silence the sliderend?
Applied all.

Update: https://mir.s-ul.eu/rjRFfss6
Ongaku
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SLM wrote:

Hello, from this post


[Easy]

* 00:08:155 (1,2,3) - Just a suggestion, maybe you could rotate this for a smoother flow. I prefer the linear.
http://puu.sh/u9KBU/fee49d2d31.jpg

* 00:25:755 (3) - NC, 00:26:755 (3) - remove NC

* 00:44:955 (3) - NC

* 00:54:555 (1) - unnecessary NC imo

* 00:57:755 (3) - ds error? It's quite noticable, I see you used 1.0x snap at 1.5x sv, but it's 1.34x without the green line. applied this and the NCs
http://puu.sh/u9L1r/484a48a4f8.jpg


[Normal]

* 00:16:955 (4) - Very confusing as a 1/2 gap from (3), cuz the spacing looks visually similar.

* 00:19:355 (1) - 00:19:955 (3) - 00:36:155 (3) - ^

* and lots of other objects throughout the map ^
e.g
00:25:755 (1,2,3,1,2) - they're switching between 1/2 and 1/1 but spaced same
00:49:755 (1) - 1/2 gap, 00:50:955 (3) - 1/1 gap but they visually look almost same.
00:52:155 (6,7,1) - ^
You should really rearrange those imo. these are supposed to be emphasizing the 1/2, hence the stacking.

* 00:22:555 (4) - NC

* 00:25:755 (4) - 00:43:355 (3) - 00:44:955 (5) - 00:51:355 (4) - ^

* 00:57:755 (1,1) - Kinda ugly overlap.

* 01:00:455 (2) - Shouldn't this start at 01:00:555 - ? There is a super strong sound at 01:00:555 - that you can't just skip it.
Even the Hard is skipping the sound at 01:00:455 -.
If you really want to map 01:00:455 - , maybe change the rhythm like this. http://puu.sh/u9MvS/fee204db21.jpg

* 01:02:055 (2) - 01:03:655 (2) - and etc - ^ changed all of them, because i finally found the will to.


[Sore wa]
cool diff /w\


That's all from me, Good luck!
Thanks
Seijiro
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SLM wrote:

[MrSergio's Insane]


* 00:06:946 (1) - Aimod says unsnapped, but idk. yeh, it complains since I have two timing sections so close to each other and the first is not snapped. I might fix timing myself at a later date. For now it is actually snapped (try listening at 25%), but osu just complains

* 00:24:155 (3) - 00:25:755 (5) - NCs should be placed here imo my combo-ing is way larger tho, nope. (If you provide a better reason I can see)

* 00:30:555 (1,2) - Maybe seperate them since almost every stacks you used before this were 1/4. what about 00:20:755 (2,1) - ? x) And tbh I don't want to use just one stack in the whole map to begin with :p

* 00:32:155 (1) - ^ same reason, maybe ctrl+g? that sucks tho. That pattern is one of the most hideous things I see around and I don't plan on using it

* 01:21:755 (4) - NC zzz, you watched too many 2016 maps, my dear. My combo-ing is longer than that to give me more freedom for structure.
Thanks for the mod, but no change.

@Ongaku I changed timing in the first part, so now you need just one red section at the start (I managed to put both beats on a 1/4 snap)
Update: http://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/usJNP9jr.rar
Ongaku
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Arutsuki
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was sore
•pretty sure these should be 4 notes in 1/8 00:08:421 (2,3,4) -
•00:09:755 (1,2,3) - kinda weird for these to have higher spacing than 00:08:955 (1,2,3,4) -, the first four have a higher pitch, same here 00:12:155 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - pink combo should be lower spaced
•00:21:555 (5,6,1) - the music doesnt really support this here, they'd fit much better at 00:23:155 - or 00:23:555 (2) - since there's an actual triplet in the music there
•00:56:355 (2,2,2,2) - overmapped lol
•01:02:555 (1,2,3,4) - this would fit the music better imo, the reverse is just confusing
•note that most of these repeat trough the whole map so check for them

sergioid
•00:11:621 (2,3) - this is 1/8
•00:35:555 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I think these should gradually decrease their spacing to match what the song does in pitch
•00:38:555 (1,2,3) - 1/8 again

mir
•nice diff :>

normal
•Don't put different SV's on a normal, ideally it should be kept around the same as distance snap.
•Distance snap should be between 0.8 and 1.3, 0.1 difference shouldn't matter that much, but being that little it should be easy to fix.
•Don't overlap stuff like 00:23:755 (3,1) - 00:27:355 (1,3) - 00:30:155 (3,1) - 00:33:355 (1,1,2) - etc. It's confusing to plebs

20 distance snap errors, fix them pls.

easy
•Note density should consist of mostly 1/1, 2/1, or slower rhythms. Stuff like 00:17:555 (2,1) - 00:31:355 (2,3) - 00:26:555 (2,3) - should be avoided on an easy.
•Same as normal, avoid alternating SV.
•00:19:355 (1) - The overlaps could be easily avoided, plus the slider itself doesnt have the prettiest shape :<
•01:10:555 (1,1,1,1) - Unnecessary NC's
•also check AiMod, not as many errors as normal but still some.

good luck
Seijiro
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Seijiro
fixed first snap, thanks
Those triplets feel increasing to me: they repeat the same rhythm and each time it increases in intensity due to the repeat
the last 1/8 snap is simplified for gameplay purposes. The rhythm is complex anyway so as long as you click fast it doesn't matter exactly where. I don't plan on adding 1/8 circles anywhere for the sake of fidelity to the song, sorry.


I let Ongaku edit that 1/8 snap for me, it's pointless to send an update for such a fix anyway :p


Thanks for your mod~
Ongaku
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Arutsuki wrote:

nm from queue

red=unrankable
was sore
•pretty sure these should be 4 notes in 1/8 00:08:421 (2,3,4) - it was, but played really weird.
•00:09:755 (1,2,3) - kinda weird for these to have higher spacing than 00:08:955 (1,2,3,4) -, the first four have a higher pitch, same here 00:12:155 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - pink combo should be lower spaced changed
•00:21:555 (5,6,1) - the music doesnt really support this here, they'd fit much better at 00:23:155 - or 00:23:555 (2) - since there's an actual triplet in the music there changed a few things
•00:56:355 (2,2,2,2) - overmapped lol this pattern ties in both vocals and instruments
•01:02:555 (1,2,3,4) - this would fit the music better imo, the reverse is just confusing did some fixing
•note that most of these repeat trough the whole map so check for them

normal
•Don't put different SV's on a normal, ideally it should be kept around the same as distance snap. I disagree, as long as it isn't all over the place, and is just one distinct section, it should be fine.
•Distance snap should be between 0.8 and 1.3, 0.1 difference shouldn't matter that much, but being that little it should be easy to fix.
•Don't overlap stuff like 00:23:755 (3,1) - 00:27:355 (1,3) - 00:30:155 (3,1) - 00:33:355 (1,1,2) - etc. It's confusing to plebs removed overlaps

20 distance snap errors, fix them pls.

easy
•Note density should consist of mostly 1/1, 2/1, or slower rhythms. Stuff like 00:17:555 (2,1) - 00:31:355 (2,3) - 00:26:555 (2,3) - should be avoided on an easy. fixed a few, keeping 00:31:355 (2,3) - .
•Same as normal, avoid alternating SV.
•00:19:355 (1) - The overlaps could be easily avoided, plus the slider itself doesnt have the prettiest shape :<
•01:10:555 (1,1,1,1) - Unnecessary NC's aesthetics wise, its necessary. Consists with the other diffs.
•also check AiMod, not as many errors as normal but still some.

good luck
Thanks
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normal
  1. 00:39:355 (3) - Don't do this
  2. 00:57:755 (1) - Would make more sense if you used the SV increase in the kiai time only
  3. Can you like, use one coherent DS and avoid patterns like 00:38:555 (1,2,3) ?
  4. 00:40:155 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - spicing up the rhythm would be nice. feels like an easy diff here when you could have followed the vocals or added more depth to the instruments
  5. 00:37:755 (2,3) -You've used the same visual spacing as 00:34:555 (2,1) when they are different beat lengths. This is just one of the many places where reading by distance goes out the window
  6. 00:35:355 (1,2,3,4) - rhythm doesn't reflect the song imo
kds pls,
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Kisses wrote:

normal
  1. 00:39:355 (3) - Don't do this k
  2. 00:57:755 (1) - Would make more sense if you used the SV increase in the kiai time only fine
  3. Can you like, use one coherent DS and avoid patterns like 00:38:555 (1,2,3) ? changed things
  4. 00:40:155 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - spicing up the rhythm would be nice. feels like an easy diff here when you could have followed the vocals or added more depth to the instruments did, was told to "kms"
  5. 00:37:755 (2,3) -You've used the same visual spacing as 00:34:555 (2,1) when they are different beat lengths. This is just one of the many places where reading by distance goes out the window did something
  6. 00:35:355 (1,2,3,4) - rhythm doesn't reflect the song imo it does dont worry. They were more dense before, but i made it less dense
kds pls,
k thx
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[Exiled Wolf] wrote:

Mr.Sergio insane full when
That's a nice temptation :roll:
Halfslashed
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Free mod.
Holy fuck your timeline zoom is high.

[Easy]
00:14:555 (1,1) - Maybe symmetry isn't the best arrangement here. I think it makes more sense for the slider ball of 00:16:155 (1) to hit the red node somewhere near 00:16:355. Maybe try a parallel arrangement instead?
00:16:155 (1) - Can't see any reason for this NC
00:17:555 (2,3,1) - Can't say I understand what's going on with the DS here. 00:14:555 (1,1,2) you make a clear switch to 1.07x DS (And it should be comprehensible), but then you switch to 0.8x and then 1.0x? This is fairly inconsistent distance, so perhaps change the DS between these objects to 1.07x?
00:19:355 (1,2) - Avoid this overlap if you can. I don't think it's the biggest deal, though it is a bit unclean.
00:22:555 (1) - Yeah I know intensity picked up and all, but I still think that NCing every measure is a bit much when you only have two objects per measure. Consider switching to a NC every two measure setup.
00:26:555 (2,1) - Two problems I have with this. First of all, this is an unexpected spacing change. Second, you didn't set up 1/2 repeats properly, since you didn't introduce any repeats other than this, and 1/2 is already really fast to comprehend for new players. If you're going to keep this rhythm, you should introduce a repeat of 1/1 or slower snap prior to this so that the player understands how repeats work.
00:48:155 (3,4,1) - Reconsider your spacing here. These are gaps between two seperate snaps and yet the spacing is extremely similar here, so I recommend making both 0.6x DS.
00:52:955 (1,2) - Why not try using circles for this? This is a less intense section, and circles with 2/1 gaps should be less stressful for players at this level.
00:57:755 (3,1) - This 2/1 gap looks extremely similar to the 1/1 gap between 00:56:955 (2,3), and is therefore pretty confusing. Create a more noticeable change here.
01:03:355 (2,1) - Nazi, but fix DS please.
01:08:155 (2,1) - As above.
01:08:955 (1,2) - I'm not entirely sure on the readability of this pattern for an Easy difficulty. Please get some more opinions on this.

[Normal]
00:08:155 (1,2,3) - You just started the map and you have 1/2 gaps that look the same as 1/1 gaps. This is not readable for players at this level at all, and you have this problem recurring throughout most of the map. I'll point out some instances where you do this, but this highly affects readability.
00:10:955 (4,1) - You could make this a bit neater, and I think it would improve readability due to the tight visual distance between 00:10:555 (3,4,1) . Basically, move 00:11:355 (1) onto the curve created by 00:10:955 (4).
00:14:555 (1,2) - Again, I'm questioning the readability of such a pattern for a normal difficulty. Get more opinions on this.
00:15:355 (2,3) - Another instance of rapidly changing your distance to be equal to a 1/2 snap.
00:17:555 (5,1) - The visually similar spacing thing applies to stacks as well. Since you introduced a 1/1 stack at 00:09:755 (1,2), you will confuse players quite a bit with switching to 1/2 stacks. Pick one or the other for this map.
00:24:955 (2,3) - DS looks the same as 00:24:155 (1,2).
00:29:755 (2,1) - This would work much better if you didn't have 2 overlapping the tail of 1. You could just change this by increasing the DS to 1.3x for 00:29:755 (2,3) (Or just this entire section.)
00:38:555 (1,2,3) - Would be better if you found a way to not have these overlap.
00:43:355 (1,1) - Off blanket and worth mentioning that you will not be able to get a perfect blanket with just one gray node. You need two or more to do so (I prefer three).
00:48:355 (2,3,1) - Patterning is kind of ambiguous since 2 leads into 1, as opposed to 3. It's not that bad since you have the NCing, but avoid this if you can.
00:57:755 (1,1) - This overlap is something else. I mean, it's kind of neat, but you could make it neater if you made the red node of the second slider towards the center of it (and not have the tails overlap).
01:02:555 (1) - Just barely touches the top of the HP bar.
01:11:755 (1,1) - No. Get rid of this reverse arrow stack, this is unrankable.
01:22:955 (2) - Border is slightly hidden behind the head of 2, I'd make the angle created by the red node a bit wider so the player can see the slider border more clearly. Also, could you do something about the massive distance between this and 01:23:355 (1)?

Okay. So basically, you should reconsider you distance concepts. You cannot randomly change distance in similar sections in the music, and you shouldn't do it between the same snap. If it's a long time, like 2/1 or greater (for this difficulty), it's okay not to have super consistent distance, but for a section of a certain musical intensity, 1/1 spacing should be consistent, 1/2 spacing should be consistent, 3/2 spacing, etc. Additionally, none of these various distances should look extremely similar.

[Mir]
00:08:355 (2,5,1) - Could make a neat equilateral triangle here.
00:15:955 (3,2) - I don't think these fit very well, considering intensity decreases in this section. You did lower the clicking density, but you still have a continuous stream of 1/2 here in a calm part.
00:17:555 (4,1) - This would probably work better as a 1/2 stack.
00:20:555 (1,1) - What is this overlap... I'm referring particularly to how the first slider overlaps the tail of the second.
00:45:755 (3,1) - Considering that you established 1/4 perfect slider tail stacking earlier in the map, this may not be the greatest idea, but this one is more subjective since the stack is 1/1. How about using your 1/1 overlap that you used at 00:49:755 (1,2)?
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - A slight SV change between each slider (Maybe like 0.05x increase) would be really cool here.
01:15:555 (2,3) - There's technically a vocal syllable on 3, but it might be better to swap this out with a 1/2 slider, since the vocal syllable on 3 is really subdued compared to the previous one.

Good luck.
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Halfslashed wrote:

Free mod.
Holy fuck your timeline zoom is high.
[Mir]
00:08:355 (2,5,1) - Could make a neat equilateral triangle here. - too obscure to be noticeable imo ;-;
00:15:955 (3,2) - I don't think these fit very well, considering intensity decreases in this section. You did lower the clicking density, but you still have a continuous stream of 1/2 here in a calm part. - there are a lot more 1/1 length sliders and this is basically a first build-up into the chorus, I think it fits fine imo
00:17:555 (4,1) - This would probably work better as a 1/2 stack. - hmm I view the song as still being a quite fluid transition into the build-up so I think not having it stacked better reflects that
00:20:555 (1,1) - What is this overlap... I'm referring particularly to how the first slider overlaps the tail of the second. - idk.. I don't really get what's wrong with it
00:45:755 (3,1) - Considering that you established 1/4 perfect slider tail stacking earlier in the map, this may not be the greatest idea, but this one is more subjective since the stack is 1/1. How about using your 1/1 overlap that you used at 00:49:755 (1,2)? - yeah that's fair, done
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - A slight SV change between each slider (Maybe like 0.05x increase) would be really cool here. - sure, done
01:15:555 (2,3) - There's technically a vocal syllable on 3, but it might be better to swap this out with a 1/2 slider, since the vocal syllable on 3 is really subdued compared to the previous one. - I think it's fine because I want a lot of clicks here to emphasize the intensity. It's noticeable enough to justify a 1/2 circle imo so no change here ;-;

Good luck.
Thank you Halfy! <3

Update: https://puu.sh/uHxBh/c1e0963c5e.osu
Nao Tomori
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Nao Tomori
ongaku fix ur fkin low diffs smh my head
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Anxient
https://puu.sh/uPxbH/2a21178c7d.txt

projectile vomitting
Nao Tomori
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ok getting kds
SPOILER
16:32 Naotoshi: https://pastebin.com/u84Yv8Du
16:37 Ongaku: 00:13:800 (4,1) -
16:37 Ongaku: compared to my seciton
16:37 Ongaku: this is a huge jump
16:37 Ongaku: :(
16:40 Ongaku: 00:22:578 -
16:41 Naotoshi: ok ok ok
16:52 Naotoshi: 00:38:355 (1) - 
16:53 Naotoshi: 00:46:555 (1,2) - 00:48:155 (1,2) - 
16:53 Naotoshi: 00:56:955 (2,1) - 
16:54 Naotoshi: 01:07:355 (1,2,1) - 
16:55 Naotoshi: 01:10:555 (1,1,1,1) - 
16:56 Naotoshi: 00:24:955 (2,1) - 
16:57 Naotoshi: 00:47:355 (2) - 
16:57 Naotoshi: ???
16:58 Ongaku: the DS is consistent tho
16:58 Ongaku: :(
16:58 Naotoshi: 01:10:555 (1,1,1,1) - 
16:58 Ongaku: except for 00:48:155 (3) - , its a slider
17:03 Naotoshi: 00:38:355 (1) -
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oaaaa that song, please rank it ongakun
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chatted with Zirox, decided to buff Rain a bit to try and avoid spread issues. update below, hopefully he will mod soon:tm: sometime this year

Rain
osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:宵々古今
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Ongaku
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Topic Starter
Ongaku
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ZiRoX
Elite Mapper
1,052 posts
Joined November 2009
ZiRoX
Say hi to the nerf squad

[Rain]
  1. I still think you could add a couple hyperdashes in the intro section. You could do so in 00:09:355 (8,1,2) - , by moving (1) to the right a bit. If the jump to 00:10:355 (2) - becomes too close to an edge dash, you can either move 00:10:355 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - to the left until the HDash is triggered, or reduce the distance and have (7) moved to the left of (6). Another place where you could add a HDash is 00:12:755 (8,1) -
  2. 00:21:955 (4,5,6) - The (4,5) distance, while not an edge dash, might not be that hard to miss. So I suggest you move (5,6) a bit to the right to about x2,0 distance.
  3. 00:29:955 (6,7) - This might be a bit hard coming out of the 1/4 HDash. Maybe you could go for something like this:
    SPOILER
  4. 00:36:155 (7,8,9) - I think this movement is bit hard, with 3 direction changes ending with an 1/4 HDash. Maybe you could Ctrl+H (8) and then move it a bit to the right to trigger the HDash again, or you can also make a sort of "stair" like this (it might look similarly hard, but in this case the HDash follows the direction of the slider, as opposed to your pattern):
    SPOILER
  5. 00:41:355 (6,7) - This distance being a bit larger than 00:40:955 (4,5) - already makes a difference in how tight and easy to miss the pattern feels. I'd move (7) a bit to the left (x:284 keeps both HDashes).
  6. 00:41:755 (1,2) - You could have an HDash between these because the vocal is quite strong. For this, you can move (2) a bit to the right and then Ctrl+G (3) so the distance to it doesn't become too large.
  7. 00:43:955 (2,3) - Personally I expected a 1/1 slider like the previous one.
  8. 00:46:355 (6) - I'd move this slightly to the right (x:112 maybe?) to add some leniency after the 1/4 HDash.
  9. 00:46:955 (2) - I'd move this a bit to the right too (x:168?) to add some leniency after the previous HDash and to reduce the distance for the next dash, which feels a bit large (x2,20 starts getting on the section close to an edge dash)
  10. 01:00:955 (1,2,3) - These distances feel really odd to me. I know that you tried to emphasize the downbeat at (3) with the larger distance, but the way the vocals are emphasized with the 01:00:955 (1) - slider really makes you wonder why 01:01:555 (2) - isn't emphasized as much. So basically I'd have the larger distance to (2) instead of (3), for example by moving (2) to x:228.
  11. 01:04:155 (1,2) - I think it follows both the drums and vocals better as two 1/2 sliders instead.
  12. 01:05:155 (4,5,6,1) - I feel like 3 HDashes in a row might be too much (although still rankable). I'd try to take the one between (5,6) out.
  13. 01:06:355 (2,3) - Same comment as in 01:00:955 (1,2,3) -, I'd make (1,2) larger than (2,3)
  14. 01:09:755 (4,5) - I think this requires a bit more leniency after the 1/4 HDash, so move it a bit to the right.
  15. 01:14:755 (4) - I'd slant this slider, as the whole 01:14:555 (3,4,5) - pattern feels a bit harsh (3 direction changes, including 2 within a 1/4 window ending with an 1/4 HDash). If you slant the slider you take one of those direction changes out.
  16. 01:17:555 (4) - ^Similar stuff here. And I'd put 01:17:955 (6) - a bit closer to the previous object for some leniency.
  17. 01:21:755 (1,2,3,4,5) - Wew lad. This is way overdone for a Rain. The direction changes at 01:21:755 (1,2,3) - need to be toned down a bit, maybe by making the (1) slider go right instead (with the tail being at the right of (2). 01:22:155 (3,4) - Also needs a bit of reduction in spacing for leniency.
  18. 01:26:155 (1) - I'd put this a bit closer to the center (probably within the x:400 - x:420 range) since it's quite unexpected.
[Overdose]
  1. 00:13:755 (3,4) - This distance needs to be toned down for a bit of leniency. It's really easy to miss and the CS5 doesn't help at all.
  2. 00:14:305 (8) - This is overmapped.
  3. 00:16:955 (4,5) - ^Same with this one
  4. 00:17:505 (9) - Also overmapped.
  5. 00:20:355 (5,6) - I'd put these closer by moving (5) to the right a bit. This adds leniency to the movement after the HDash and makes the 1/4 dash between the circles less tight.
  6. 00:22:155 (6,7) - There are two things I personally dislike about this pattern: the usage of 1/4 is really sudden, both comparing to the Rain and with the 2 circles right before it, and it's topped of with lots of antiflow 1/4 movement (similar as the 3 direction changes mentioned for the Rain). You can probably move (7) like the following screenshot, which makes the pattern a bit easier due to the HDash following the direction of the slider:
    SPOILER
  7. 00:23:355 (6,7,8) - The short 1/4 dashes might make this hard coming out of a 1/4 HDash followed by antiflow at 00:23:155 (5,6) - . I think you can move (7) a bit closer to make it a tiny bit easier. Maybe I'd also slant 00:23:355 (6) - a bit more to reduce the antiflow a bit.
  8. 00:24:555 (4,5) - I'd put them a bit closer to make it a bit more lenient. One grid space left for (4) and one grid space right for (5) keeps the HDashes.
  9. 00:29:555 (4,5,6,7,8) - I'd also try to tone this down. All the 1/4 HDashes are followed by antiflow movements, and that feels like a huge leap from the Rain. Also, I'd reduce the distance between (7,8) as the 1/4 dash + 2 direction changes + 1/4 HDash might be a bit too hard, too, in comparison to the Rain.
  10. 00:30:955 (3,4) - Reduce the distance for some leniency.
  11. 00:36:355 (6) - I'd put this to the left of (5), at x:92 or so. The pattern at 00:35:555 (2,3,4,5) - is not that easy to hit, and you top it off with a large 1/4 dash with antiflow between (6,7). If you put (6) on the left, the (5,6) movement keeps the direction of the previous HDash, making for an easier pattern.
  12. 00:37:755 (4,5,6,7) - I felt the 1/4 dashes between (4,5) and (6,7) innecessary and spiking the difficulty too much compared to the Rain. I think it plays nicer if you place them like this:
    SPOILER
  13. 00:42:155 (3,4,5) - It really feels weird compared to the Rain, as in that diff you placed the dash between (3,4) instead and omitted the beat at 00:42:555 - , which in this diff has an HDash to it. It's inconsistent between both diffs, and personally I prefer the Rain approach. It's also inconsistent with 00:43:955 (4) -.
  14. 00:43:155 (7) - I'm not sure this beat is that strong to require an 1/4 HDash to it, so I'd remove it the HDash.
  15. 01:00:955 (1) - I'd slant this slider a bit more, since it's a strong antiflow movement after an 1/4 HDash and the high SV in the section might make the repeat easy to miss.
  16. 01:03:755 (9,10) - I'd reduce the distance a bit for some leniency.
  17. 01:04:155 (1) - I'd also slant this slider a bit more.
  18. 01:05:755 (1,2,3) - Same issue as mentioned for 00:42:155 (3,4,5) - , I think the (1,2) distance should be larger than (2,3).
  19. 01:05:355 (5,6) - The antiflow sliders make this feel a bit too much, and a big leap from the Rain. I'd prefer a normal flow pattern, kinda like 01:00:555 (6,7) -
  20. 01:08:355 (5,6,7) - I'd reduce the distance between these a tiny bit for leniency.
  21. 01:09:055 (2) - This is so easy to overshoot after the two 1/4 HDashes. I'd make the slider have more movement to the left.
  22. 01:09:755 (5,6,7,8) - I'd also reduce these distances. It's harder than the pattern after it, even though the "sore, sore, sore" part is more intense.
  23. 01:14:555 (4,5) - Similarly to what I suggested for 01:21:755 (1,2,3) - in the Rain, I feel like the 2 direction changes are a bit too much. I'd try to shape the slider so that it flows into (5).
  24. 01:14:955 (6,7) - In any case, I feel like this is a bit harsh coming after the previous pattern, and I'd move (7) a bit closer to the (6). Maybe stack their heads?
  25. 01:17:755 (5) - Personally I'd make this a circle. This way you place complete emphasis on the vocals instead of deviating it to a really weak sound in the background with this slider's tail.
  26. 01:19:355 (4) - ^Same
  27. 01:22:155 (3,4,5,6) - I'd reduce the non HDash distances a bit for leniency.
JBHyperion
osu!catch Paragon
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JBHyperion

ZiRoX wrote:

Say hi to the nerf squad :thinking:

[Rain]
  1. I still think you could add a couple hyperdashes in the intro section. You could do so in 00:09:355 (8,1,2) - , by moving (1) to the right a bit. If the jump to 00:10:355 (2) - becomes too close to an edge dash, you can either move 00:10:355 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - to the left until the HDash is triggered, or reduce the distance and have (7) moved to the left of (6). Another place where you could add a HDash is 00:12:755 (8,1) - I don't like a hdash here due to the pitch reduction. Downbeat or not, this doesn't feel strong enough to warrant a hdash for me
  2. 00:21:955 (4,5,6) - The (4,5) distance, while not an edge dash, might not be that hard to miss. So I suggest you move (5,6) a bit to the right to about x2,0 distance. Just moved (5) right for less of a difficulty spike overall
  3. 00:29:955 (6,7) - This might be a bit hard coming out of the 1/4 HDash. Maybe you could go for something like this:
    SPOILER
    I tried a less antiflowing pattern originally and it played exceptionally boring to me. 00:29:755 (5,6) - being walkable allows me to highlight the vocal switching much better without being especially punishing. I did reduce the hyper strength a little to compensate though
  4. 00:36:155 (7,8,9) - I think this movement is bit hard, with 3 direction changes ending with an 1/4 HDash. Maybe you could Ctrl+H (8) and then move it a bit to the right to trigger the HDash again, or you can also make a sort of "stair" like this (it might look similarly hard, but in this case the HDash follows the direction of the slider, as opposed to your pattern):
    SPOILER
    This is nice, emphasises the repetition a bit better also. Done
  5. 00:41:355 (6,7) - This distance being a bit larger than 00:40:955 (4,5) - already makes a difference in how tight and easy to miss the pattern feels. I'd move (7) a bit to the left (x:284 keeps both HDashes). Done
  6. 00:41:755 (1,2) - You could have an HDash between these because the vocal is quite strong. For this, you can move (2) a bit to the right and then Ctrl+G (3) so the distance to it doesn't become too large. Done, but had to make (3) fairly vertical to keep following patterning
  7. 00:43:955 (2,3) - Personally I expected a 1/1 slider like the previous one. Split because vocal on 00:44:355 (3) - is considerably stronger than in the previous combo
  8. 00:46:355 (6) - I'd move this slightly to the right (x:112 maybe?) to add some leniency after the 1/4 HDash. Reduced a little, though not as much as suggested as I want to keep some emphasis there
  9. 00:46:955 (2) - I'd move this a bit to the right too (x:168?) to add some leniency after the previous HDash and to reduce the distance for the next dash, which feels a bit large (x2,20 starts getting on the section close to an edge dash) Reduced by moving (1) right slightly with a previous change
  10. 01:00:955 (1,2,3) - These distances feel really odd to me. I know that you tried to emphasize the downbeat at (3) with the larger distance, but the way the vocals are emphasized with the 01:00:955 (1) - slider really makes you wonder why 01:01:555 (2) - isn't emphasized as much. So basically I'd have the larger distance to (2) instead of (3), for example by moving (2) to x:228. I had it like this originally but changed it because I wasn't sure the vocal emphasis came through that well. Open to giving it another try though I guess
  11. 01:04:155 (1,2) - I think it follows both the drums and vocals better as two 1/2 sliders instead. Slider + two 1/2 circles to keep vocal emphasis on the second half
  12. 01:05:155 (4,5,6,1) - I feel like 3 HDashes in a row might be too much (although still rankable). I'd try to take the one between (5,6) out. These vocals are equal strength, having them mapped with such different spacings feels very odd to me. I'd prefer to keep the current arrangement if possible
  13. 01:06:355 (2,3) - Same comment as in 01:00:955 (1,2,3) -, I'd make (1,2) larger than (2,3) Done
  14. 01:09:755 (4,5) - I think this requires a bit more leniency after the 1/4 HDash, so move it a bit to the right. Moved 01:09:955 (5,6,7) - right slightly
  15. 01:14:755 (4) - I'd slant this slider, as the whole 01:14:555 (3,4,5) - pattern feels a bit harsh (3 direction changes, including 2 within a 1/4 window ending with an 1/4 HDash). If you slant the slider you take one of those direction changes out.
  16. 01:17:555 (4) - ^Similar stuff here. And I'd put 01:17:955 (6) - a bit closer to the previous object for some leniency. Done
  17. 01:21:755 (1,2,3,4,5) - Wew lad. This is way overdone for a Rain. The direction changes at 01:21:755 (1,2,3) - need to be toned down a bit, maybe by making the (1) slider go right instead (with the tail being at the right of (2). 01:22:155 (3,4) - Also needs a bit of reduction in spacing for leniency. Made it more friendly for scrubs
  18. 01:26:155 (1) - I'd put this a bit closer to the center (probably within the x:400 - x:420 range) since it's quite unexpected. Alright
[Overdose]
  1. 00:13:755 (3,4) - This distance needs to be toned down for a bit of leniency. It's really easy to miss and the CS5 doesn't help at all. Nerfed it a bit for introduction's sake
  2. 00:14:305 (8) - This is overmapped. Consider it an after-effect of the sound at 00:14:255 (7) - this follows the sound much nicer as a 5plet than a triplet+1 in my opinion as with this the sounds are all "tied" together as part of the same reverberating sound, not distinctly different sounds as would be indicated by separating them
  3. 00:16:955 (4,5) - ^Same with this one I don't see how this is overmapped, there's a hyper to the drum sound and a 1/2 gap to the percussion sound
  4. 00:17:505 (9) - Also overmapped. As previously
  5. 00:20:355 (5,6) - I'd put these closer by moving (5) to the right a bit. This adds leniency to the movement after the HDash and makes the 1/4 dash between the circles less tight. Opted to weaken 00:19:955 (3,4) - instead
  6. 00:22:155 (6,7) - There are two things I personally dislike about this pattern: the usage of 1/4 is really sudden, both comparing to the Rain and with the 2 circles right before it, and it's topped of with lots of antiflow 1/4 movement (similar as the 3 direction changes mentioned for the Rain). You can probably move (7) like the following screenshot, which makes the pattern a bit easier due to the HDash following the direction of the slider:
    SPOILER
    Okay sure, serves as a bit better introduction I guess
  7. 00:23:355 (6,7,8) - The short 1/4 dashes might make this hard coming out of a 1/4 HDash followed by antiflow at 00:23:155 (5,6) - . I think you can move (7) a bit closer to make it a tiny bit easier. Maybe I'd also slant 00:23:355 (6) - a bit more to reduce the antiflow a bit. Opted to weaken 00:23:155 (5,6) - slightly instead
  8. 00:24:555 (4,5) - I'd put them a bit closer to make it a bit more lenient. One grid space left for (4) and one grid space right for (5) keeps the HDashes. Made them the same as the reformed 00:22:155 (6,7) - for consistency, reduced a tiny bit
  9. 00:29:555 (4,5,6,7,8) - I'd also try to tone this down. All the 1/4 HDashes are followed by antiflow movements, and that feels like a huge leap from the Rain. Also, I'd reduce the distance between (7,8) as the 1/4 dash + 2 direction changes + 1/4 HDash might be a bit too hard, too, in comparison to the Rain. Tried to weaken hypers and regular spacing a little
  10. 00:30:955 (3,4) - Reduce the distance for some leniency. Done
  11. 00:36:355 (6) - I'd put this to the left of (5), at x:92 or so. The pattern at 00:35:555 (2,3,4,5) - is not that easy to hit, and you top it off with a large 1/4 dash with antiflow between (6,7). If you put (6) on the left, the (5,6) movement keeps the direction of the previous HDash, making for an easier pattern. Agrred, the additional antiflow was excessive here
  12. 00:37:755 (4,5,6,7) - I felt the 1/4 dashes between (4,5) and (6,7) innecessary and spiking the difficulty too much compared to the Rain. I think it plays nicer if you place them like this:
    SPOILER
    I prefer the tap dash pattern here, it follows the punchier vocal nicely and provides welcome variety
  13. 00:42:155 (3,4,5) - It really feels weird compared to the Rain, as in that diff you placed the dash between (3,4) instead and omitted the beat at 00:42:555 - , which in this diff has an HDash to it. It's inconsistent between both diffs, and personally I prefer the Rain approach. It's also inconsistent with 00:43:955 (4) -. Yeah this was really weirdly done, made it more consistent now
  14. 00:43:155 (7) - I'm not sure this beat is that strong to require an 1/4 HDash to it, so I'd remove it the HDash. Made this quite a bit simpler to aid in the "winding down" before the calm section
  15. 01:00:955 (1) - I'd slant this slider a bit more, since it's a strong antiflow movement after an 1/4 HDash and the high SV in the section might make the repeat easy to miss. Done
  16. 01:03:755 (9,10) - I'd reduce the distance a bit for some leniency. Ok
  17. 01:04:155 (1) - I'd also slant this slider a bit more. Did same change as for 01:00:955 (1) - for consistency, less horizontal now
  18. 01:05:755 (1,2,3) - Same issue as mentioned for 00:42:155 (3,4,5) - , I think the (1,2) distance should be larger than (2,3). Reversed these distances
  19. 01:05:355 (5,6) - The antiflow sliders make this feel a bit too much, and a big leap from the Rain. I'd prefer a normal flow pattern, kinda like 01:00:555 (6,7) - Fair enough, since I also have antiflow at 01:05:355 (5,6) - where it's more fitting I don't mind removing it here
  20. 01:08:355 (5,6,7) - I'd reduce the distance between these a tiny bit for leniency. Done
  21. 01:09:055 (2) - This is so easy to overshoot after the two 1/4 HDashes. I'd make the slider have more movement to the left. Done and increased SV for better curve
  22. 01:09:755 (5,6,7,8) - I'd also reduce these distances. It's harder than the pattern after it, even though the "sore, sore, sore" part is more intense. Reworked this part so it's much simpler overall for better contrast
  23. 01:14:555 (4,5) - Similarly to what I suggested for 01:21:755 (1,2,3) - in the Rain, I feel like the 2 direction changes are a bit too much. I'd try to shape the slider so that it flows into (5). Simplified this a bit so it's more flow-y and stuff
  24. 01:14:955 (6,7) - In any case, I feel like this is a bit harsh coming after the previous pattern, and I'd move (7) a bit closer to the (6). Maybe stack their heads? Fixed with the above changes
  25. 01:17:755 (5) - Personally I'd make this a circle. This way you place complete emphasis on the vocals instead of deviating it to a really weak sound in the background with this slider's tail. I prefer to keep these as sliders for consistency on mapping to the held vocal sounds, and avoid an awkward 1/2 pause
  26. 01:19:355 (4) - ^Same As above
  27. 01:22:155 (3,4,5,6) - I'd reduce the non HDash distances a bit for leniency. Done
rip difficulty xd

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Title:YoiYoi Kokon
TitleUnicode:宵々古今
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Pachiru
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Pachiru
oh nooooooooooo
Aurele
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Aurele

cause you only requested me to check at the normal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


[Normal]
  1. 00:14:555 (1) - Awkward spacing. Make it consistent.
  2. 00:17:555 (2) - If I look to your previous objects, you were mostly using a 0.85x spacing. You should consider doing the same thing here?
  3. 00:25:355 (3) - I would rather use a normal consistent spacing with this object, it makes an awkward transition with the next circle.
  4. 00:33:355 (1,1,2) - Pretty sure you can do a better blanket here. It's looking like this right now:
    picture
  5. 00:35:355 (1,2,3,4) - Might as well consider making it perfectly centered.
  6. 00:36:555 (4,1,2,3) - Revise the symmetry of these objects. (4) is not stacked with (3)
  7. 00:40:155 (1) - What is this jump for? Keep the spacing consistent.
  8. 00:41:755 (1) - Inconsistent spacing.
  9. 00:42:555 (2,1) - Awkward jump and flow. Consider doing something more beginner-friendly here. It does look good, but not for this difficulty as the spacing the not consistent and the cursor movement is awkward.
  10. 00:44:155 (2) - Inconsistent spacing.
    1. 00:44:155 (2,1,2) - Actually, that's a nice thing, but you should remember that this is a normal difficulty. This kind of flow might be too extreme for beginners. Consider doing something else.
  11. 01:02:555 (1) - It would be nice if this slider was moved further down since it looks like it has the same position as 00:59:355 (1) - . It needs more 'versatility'
  12. 01:03:755 (2,1) - Not so bad, but you should consider doing something else with the emplacement and the flow of the slider (2) with the slider (1). Maybe something that would make them more connected?
  13. 01:09:755 (2,1,2,3,4,1) - You might wanna rework the emplacement of these objects a bit. Try to make it more consistent toward the spacing.
    • On another note, you should be careful with the usage of kiai times, just not to overuse them!
  14. 01:13:355 (2) - The spacing with the previous and next object + the flow with the next object might be a trouble here. If you want to keep the emplacement of the slider (2), you should consider doing a CTRL+G to the next slider. The flow will be much more better.

tl:dr be careful with the SPACING and the FLOW of your objects. these are two elements that shall be revised.
you should be glad you didn't ask me to look at the other diffs ;)
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ongaku

Gabe wrote:


cause you only requested me to check at the normal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


[Normal]
  1. 00:14:555 (1) - Awkward spacing. Make it consistent. Its .80, isn't it?
  2. 00:17:555 (2) - If I look to your previous objects, you were mostly using a 0.85x spacing. You should consider doing the same thing here? the ~.80 spacing was when its two measures apart. 00:17:555 (2) - lands on a 1/2, so the DS would be shorter.
  3. 00:25:355 (3) - I would rather use a normal consistent spacing with this object, it makes an awkward transition with the next circle. ok
  4. 00:33:355 (1,1,2) - Pretty sure you can do a better blanket here. It's looking like this right now:
    picture
    fixed
  5. 00:35:355 (1,2,3,4) - Might as well consider making it perfectly centered. It is snapped to the center, its just due to it's stacking it looks like it isnt.
  6. 00:36:555 (4,1,2,3) - Revise the symmetry of these objects. (4) is not stacked with (3) did something
  7. 00:40:155 (1) - What is this jump for? Keep the spacing consistent. fixed it
  8. 00:41:755 (1) - Inconsistent spacing. I think i fixed it.
  9. 00:42:555 (2,1) - Awkward jump and flow. Consider doing something more beginner-friendly here. It does look good, but not for this difficulty as the spacing the not consistent and the cursor movement is awkward. did something
  10. 00:44:155 (2) - Inconsistent spacing. fixed it
    1. 00:44:155 (2,1,2) - Actually, that's a nice thing, but you should remember that this is a normal difficulty. This kind of flow might be too extreme for beginners. Consider doing something else.
    rearranged the pattern.
  11. 01:02:555 (1) - It would be nice if this slider was moved further down since it looks like it has the same position as 00:59:355 (1) - . It needs more 'versatility' moved it down
  12. 01:03:755 (2,1) - Not so bad, but you should consider doing something else with the emplacement and the flow of the slider (2) with the slider (1). Maybe something that would make them more connected? I prefer to keep this pattern.
  13. 01:09:755 (2,1,2,3,4,1) - You might wanna rework the emplacement of these objects a bit. Try to make it more consistent toward the spacing. fixed the arrangement.
    Due to (4) being stacked over slider (1), the placement is a bit funky.
    • On another note, you should be careful with the usage of kiai times, just not to overuse them!
    B-but it doesn't affect the gameplay that much D:
  14. 01:13:355 (2) - The spacing with the previous and next object + the flow with the next object might be a trouble here. If you want to keep the emplacement of the slider (2), you should consider doing a CTRL+G to the next slider. The flow will be much more better.
fixed

tl:dr be careful with the SPACING and the FLOW of your objects. these are two elements that shall be revised.
you should be glad you didn't ask me to look at the other diffs ;)

Halfslashed wrote:

Free mod.
Holy fuck your timeline zoom is high. damn right

[Easy]
00:14:555 (1,1) - Maybe symmetry isn't the best arrangement here. I think it makes more sense for the slider ball of 00:16:155 (1) to hit the red node somewhere near 00:16:355. Maybe try a parallel arrangement instead? Did make 00:16:155 (1) - hit the red tick, but was told it was "too hard for an easy" and reconsidered.
00:16:155 (1) - Can't see any reason for this NC removed
00:17:555 (2,3,1) - Can't say I understand what's going on with the DS here. 00:14:555 (1,1,2) you make a clear switch to 1.07x DS (And it should be comprehensible), but then you switch to 0.8x and then 1.0x? This is fairly inconsistent distance, so perhaps change the DS between these objects to 1.07x? might have remapped this section
00:19:355 (1,2) - Avoid this overlap if you can. I don't think it's the biggest deal, though it is a bit unclean. cleaned
00:22:555 (1) - Yeah I know intensity picked up and all, but I still think that NCing every measure is a bit much when you only have two objects per measure. Consider switching to a NC every two measure setup. removed excessive NCs
00:26:555 (2,1) - Two problems I have with this. First of all, this is an unexpected spacing change. Second, you didn't set up 1/2 repeats properly, since you didn't introduce any repeats other than this, and 1/2 is already really fast to comprehend for new players. If you're going to keep this rhythm, you should introduce a repeat of 1/1 or slower snap prior to this so that the player understands how repeats work. already remapped it
00:48:155 (3,4,1) - Reconsider your spacing here. These are gaps between two seperate snaps and yet the spacing is extremely similar here, so I recommend making both 0.6x DS. all .60
00:52:955 (1,2) - Why not try using circles for this? This is a less intense section, and circles with 2/1 gaps should be less stressful for players at this level. I prefer having sliders.
00:57:755 (3,1) - This 2/1 gap looks extremely similar to the 1/1 gap between 00:56:955 (2,3), and is therefore pretty confusing. Create a more noticeable change here. 1.0 DS
01:03:355 (2,1) - Nazi, but fix DS please. holy
01:08:155 (2,1) - As above. fixed them
01:08:955 (1,2) - I'm not entirely sure on the readability of this pattern for an Easy difficulty. Please get some more opinions on this. rearranged

[Normal]
00:08:155 (1,2,3) - You just started the map and you have 1/2 gaps that look the same as 1/1 gaps. This is not readable for players at this level at all, and you have this problem recurring throughout most of the map. I'll point out some instances where you do this, but this highly affects readability. already remapped intro
00:10:955 (4,1) - You could make this a bit neater, and I think it would improve readability due to the tight visual distance between 00:10:555 (3,4,1) . Basically, move 00:11:355 (1) onto the curve created by 00:10:955 (4). remapped
00:14:555 (1,2) - Again, I'm questioning the readability of such a pattern for a normal difficulty. Get more opinions on this. remapped
00:15:355 (2,3) - Another instance of rapidly changing your distance to be equal to a 1/2 snap. remapped
00:17:555 (5,1) - The visually similar spacing thing applies to stacks as well. Since you introduced a 1/1 stack at 00:09:755 (1,2), you will confuse players quite a bit with switching to 1/2 stacks. Pick one or the other for this map. remapped
00:24:955 (2,3) - DS looks the same as 00:24:155 (1,2). i think i fixed it
00:29:755 (2,1) - This would work much better if you didn't have 2 overlapping the tail of 1. You could just change this by increasing the DS to 1.3x for 00:29:755 (2,3) (Or just this entire section.) remapped
00:38:555 (1,2,3) - Would be better if you found a way to not have these overlap. remapped
00:43:355 (1,1) - Off blanket and worth mentioning that you will not be able to get a perfect blanket with just one gray node. You need two or more to do so (I prefer three). remapped
00:48:355 (2,3,1) - Patterning is kind of ambiguous since 2 leads into 1, as opposed to 3. It's not that bad since you have the NCing, but avoid this if you can. fixed...?
00:57:755 (1,1) - This overlap is something else. I mean, it's kind of neat, but you could make it neater if you made the red node of the second slider towards the center of it (and not have the tails overlap). rearranged
01:02:555 (1) - Just barely touches the top of the HP bar. shouldn't now
01:11:755 (1,1) - No. Get rid of this reverse arrow stack, this is unrankable. removed
01:22:955 (2) - Border is slightly hidden behind the head of 2, I'd make the angle created by the red node a bit wider so the player can see the slider border more clearly. Also, could you do something about the massive distance between this and 01:23:355 (1)? moved border

Okay. So basically, you should reconsider you distance concepts. You cannot randomly change distance in similar sections in the music, and you shouldn't do it between the same snap. If it's a long time, like 2/1 or greater (for this difficulty), it's okay not to have super consistent distance, but for a section of a certain musical intensity, 1/1 spacing should be consistent, 1/2 spacing should be consistent, 3/2 spacing, etc. Additionally, none of these various distances should look extremely similar.
thankies <3
Negri_sk
298 posts
Joined January 2013
Negri_sk
Hello

[Hyperion's Rain]

00:06:945 (1,2) - You know, I see what you're doing here, and yes, this difficulty is suppose to be easier but the difficulty isn't suppose to be THAT much easier, I suggest you to move the (2) slightly to the right, not to create a hyper rather to make something more interesting than this "STANDING STILL PATTERN IN A RAIN".

00:29:955 (6,7,8) - Since I believe this type of weird antiflow shouldn't be used I suggest you first of CTRL+G (6) and (7) then you CTRL+G them once individually and then you CTRL+G the (8) and move it to x333 thus creating a way more enjoyable pattern. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8075137 (Approximetly how it's suppose to look like.)

00:58:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Really would've like to see you do something more interesting with this stream, try something else!

[Hyperion's Overdose]

00:06:945 (1,2) - If you CTRL+G this your catcher will be at the position where the map actually "starts" if you catch these 2, thus making it easier to read?

00:58:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I mentioned this in the last difficulty aswell, however this time around you are more freely to do what you want since it's a overdose, so i'd suggest you try buffing this stream since it's such a strong beat and what not.

01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - I highly recommend you make all of these face outwards instead of inwards since there's no real sound seperating these 4 from 01:11:355 (5,6,7,8) - these 4 and generally it's quite a quality of life "nerf" i'd say.
JBHyperion
osu!catch Paragon
3,885 posts
Joined September 2014
JBHyperion

Negri_sk wrote:

Hello Hello

[Hyperion's Rain]

00:06:945 (1,2) - You know, I see what you're doing here, and yes, this difficulty is suppose to be easier but the difficulty isn't suppose to be THAT much easier, I suggest you to move the (2) slightly to the right, not to create a hyper rather to make something more interesting than this "STANDING STILL PATTERN IN A RAIN". Made a little walk, anything more is unpredictable with no prior musical cue

00:29:955 (6,7,8) - Since I believe this type of weird antiflow shouldn't be used I suggest you first of CTRL+G (6) and (7) then you CTRL+G them once individually and then you CTRL+G the (8) and move it to x333 thus creating a way more enjoyable pattern. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8075137 (Approximetly how it's suppose to look like.) Okay, simplified this

00:58:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Really would've like to see you do something more interesting with this stream, try something else! I feel this is as interesting as I can get without introducing jumps, and 1/8 jumps at this BPM are a no-go

[Hyperion's Overdose]

00:06:945 (1,2) - If you CTRL+G this your catcher will be at the position where the map actually "starts" if you catch these 2, thus making it easier to read? I deliberately separated these to avoid that, such a widely spaced (on the timeline) stack is not predictable and offers less emphasis

00:58:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I mentioned this in the last difficulty aswell, however this time around you are more freely to do what you want since it's a overdose, so i'd suggest you try buffing this stream since it's such a strong beat and what not. The music itself is not especially strong compared to the vocals before and after, and 1/8 hypers feel incredibly overdone spread-wise. I prefer a simpler pattern here

01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - I highly recommend you make all of these face outwards instead of inwards since there's no real sound seperating these 4 from 01:11:355 (5,6,7,8) - these 4 and generally it's quite a quality of life "nerf" i'd say. Angle is increasing to aid the buildup effect, and also because I'm space limited on the right side
Thanks for the mod!

Rain
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Xinnoh
Elite Mapper
1,962 posts
Joined April 2014
Xinnoh
why'd you link overdose when nothing changed
JBHyperion
osu!catch Paragon
3,885 posts
Joined September 2014
JBHyperion

Sinnoh wrote:

why'd you link overdose when nothing changed
I made some minor changes to a couple of jump patterns that were essentially trivial to mention, but logically yes it would have made sense to actually clarify that I suppose.
Absolute Zero
Featured Artist
595 posts
Joined August 2014
Absolute Zero
YOIYOIYOIYOIYOIYOIYIOYIOIYOIYOIYOIYOYOIIYOIYOIYOIYIO

[Hyperion’s Rain]
00:30:855 (2) - I don’t think a sound is strong enough to warrant a hitcircle here. If you want to keep it, I would add a hitcircle on 00:38:055.
00:55:755 (4,1) - I don’t know if it’s me, but I always undershoot this dash if I’m not specifically paying attention to it. I think it’s because otherwise I don’t need to hold dash to reach the note. I would lower distance at least slightly.
01:04:155 (1,2,3) - This back-forth feels like a pattern that would better fit an overdose. I would simplify this pattern’s movements slightly.
01:24:755 (1,1) - Personally, I think the dash after this note+spinner might lead to some last-note misses.
Really, really solid rain.

[Hyperion’s Overdose]
see ess five
00:54:755 (2,3) - Flowbreaking low distance from 00:54:555 (1,2). I would increase it.
01:08:355 (5,6) - Unexpected directional change not because of the movement, but because it doesn’t have a hyper on it.
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I feel like the “sore sore” can be accented even more by increasing distancing between the back-forth as time goes on. Right now, I feel it’s not accented enough.

Good quality :ok_hand:


If i'm still here i'll icon it
JBHyperion
osu!catch Paragon
3,885 posts
Joined September 2014
JBHyperion

Absolute Zero wrote:

YOIYOIYOIYOIYOIYOIYIOYIOIYOIYOIYOIYOYOIIYOIYOIYOIYIO sore

[Hyperion’s Rain]
00:30:855 (2) - I don’t think a sound is strong enough to warrant a hitcircle here. If you want to keep it, I would add a hitcircle on 00:38:055. 00:38:055 - has no real sound and breaks the 1/2 emphasis I want to maintain there, whereas 00:30:855 - has a drum and vocal effect sound similar to previous patterns such as 00:22:555 (1,2,3) - and 00:27:755 (2,3,4) - so I feel it fits nicely here too
00:55:755 (4,1) - I don’t know if it’s me, but I always undershoot this dash if I’m not specifically paying attention to it. I think it’s because otherwise I don’t need to hold dash to reach the note. I would lower distance at least slightly. Okay, moved 00:54:555 (1,2,3,4) - right a little so this is a bit more lenient
01:04:155 (1,2,3) - This back-forth feels like a pattern that would better fit an overdose. I would simplify this pattern’s movements slightly. I want to keep this as I don't feel it's a particular difficulty spike, but I did make 01:04:155 (1) - a bit less horizontal, so the tail is easier to catch
01:24:755 (1,1) - Personally, I think the dash after this note+spinner might lead to some last-note misses. Npt emphasizing it makes it feel very anticlimactic, I tried to make it as fair as possible by starting on the right side where the spinner end is more dense
Really, really solid rain.

[Hyperion’s Overdose]
see ess five fruit ninja
00:54:755 (2,3) - Flowbreaking low distance from 00:54:555 (1,2). I would increase it. Moved (2) right a bit so (2,3) is a more comfortable walk
01:08:355 (5,6) - Unexpected directional change not because of the movement, but because it doesn’t have a hyper on it. Added hyper I guess? Hopefully the antiflow isn't too punishing here
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I feel like the “sore sore” can be accented even more by increasing distancing between the back-forth as time goes on. Right now, I feel it’s not accented enough. Increased em a little, though I'd like to avoid going fullscreen nonsense lol
Good quality :ok_hand:


If i'm still here i'll icon it
Thanks for the mod!
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Overdose
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Keiger
323 posts
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Keiger
are you still accepting gd's or no?
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ongaku

ItsSurreal wrote:

are you still accepting gd's or no?
No, set is finished
Beepu
139 posts
Joined September 2014
Beepu
My english is bad.
I love this song so much.
So maybe my suggestions can't help you
but I want to try it.


Rain :

00:59:755 (3,4,5,6) - i think voice start on 00:59:755 - to 01:00:155 - end
so I will modify it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616112
01:05:255 - add a new circle? idk
that is six jump. this can make some diversity style.
01:18:155 (7,8) - make a slider? because this part is the same 01:19:755 (6) -
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - I think this part can use volume to accentuate the mood.
like 01:10:555 (1) - 70% 01:10:955 (2) - 75% 01:11:355 (3) - 80% 01:11:755 (4) - 85%

Overdose :

00:44:355 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - voice is end on 00:44:355 (5) -
so 00:44:555 - is rhythm I will use a circle. And 00:44:755 - start the voice.
I will modify this part like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616458
00:44:755 - to 00:45:155 - I want to make a round trip slider
but I feel this is better buz they are regularly like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616543
01:05:255 - add NC?
01:18:455 - and 01:20:055 - I am thinking to add a NC will better than now? idk

Hope I can help you.
JBHyperion
osu!catch Paragon
3,885 posts
Joined September 2014
JBHyperion

[-naniwa-] wrote:

My english is bad.
I love this song so much.
So maybe my suggestions can't help you
but I want to try it.


Rain :

00:59:755 (3,4,5,6) - i think voice start on 00:59:755 - to 01:00:155 - end
so I will modify it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616112 That idea works if I just want to follow the vocal, but the drum sound on 01:00:155 (4) - is quite strong also, so I want to include a jump here. That's why I split it up into two sliders instead of a repeat
01:05:255 - add a new circle? idk
that is six jump. this can make some diversity style. This is a little repetitive I guess, but for me 01:04:655 - is a better place to add a note because of the vocal, so I added one there instead
01:18:155 (7,8) - make a slider? because this part is the same 01:19:755 (6) - Good point, done
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - I think this part can use volume to accentuate the mood.
like 01:10:555 (1) - 70% 01:10:955 (2) - 75% 01:11:355 (3) - 80% 01:11:755 (4) - 85% Nice idea, not sure why I didn't do this actually.
Done on both diffs

Overdose :

00:44:355 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - voice is end on 00:44:355 (5) -
so 00:44:555 - is rhythm I will use a circle. And 00:44:755 - start the voice.
I will modify this part like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616458 Similar to first point in Rain, I also want to emphasise drums here, since I use them to indicate jumps. This is one of the places where I switch between rhythms and is easy to follow because of the low spacing on 00:43:955 (4,5) -
00:44:755 - to 00:45:155 - I want to make a round trip slider
but I feel this is better buz they are regularly like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616543 Didn't change this because it requires me to make the change above which I declined
01:05:255 - add NC? The kiai follows a consistent 4-beat NC pattern, with an NC added on each downbeat. There's no real special reason to break that here I think
01:18:455 - and 01:20:055 - I am thinking to add a NC will better than now? idk As above

Hope I can help you.
Thanks for your suggestions!

Posting code for both since I made the volume change on Overdose as well.

Rain
osu file format v14

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Overdose
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Vyvaeth
Vyvaeth
Okay, time to mod this. However...
I noticed that you are a well known mapper with countless GDs ranked. Your experience in mapping overshadows mine to oblivion. Which is a bit troublesome, because I am now much less confident when modding this. Nonetheless, I'll try to point out some of the concerns I had when playing the three first difficulties as a player.

[ Easy]
I had no problems when playing this, with all mods. However,
  1. I think the HP is underwhelming. Consider increasing it to 3 or 4.
  2. The OD shouldn't be higher than the AR, because of potential notelocking (especially with DTHR).
  3. 00:46:555 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This part... is really confusing. I always either get 100s and 50s, or miss because I click too early. It's because there's no (clear)
    distinction between the 1/1 notes and 2/1 notes. You can either: 1. increase the spacing to declare a change in rhythm signature, 2. Stack the notes on each other to achieve the same effect. (Imo, the latter works better, because the song is in a stagnation when it comes to intensity, and it contrasts well with the drop/kiai).

    Very fun.
[ Normal]
This is fine. Just some issues:
  1. Decrease the OD.. in comparison to other maps of the same SR, it's too high.
  2. 00:25:755 (4,5) - It would be wise to increase the spacing. Less confusing. Ears get used to hearing 1/2 beats from the sliders before, so the 1/1 notes should be declared properly though spacing (Either increase or stack). When playing the map, I confused them for 1/2 beats and missed.
  3. 01:03:755 (2,2) - Would it be possible to stack these (move 01:03:755 (2) - to 01:05:355 (2) - )? I don't know if it's viable. If you consider my advice though, you'd need to fix the notes before 01:03:755 (2) -.
Side note about the spread; I think the normal difficulty is just a tad bit harder than the easy difficulty... Maybe make it a 2* instead? It's not even about the SR, anybody who can FC the first difficulty can do the second one with just some more tries. I think you should try to make it a bit harder.

[ Mir's Hard]
  1. There is no sound here: 00:08:355 -
  2. 00:17:755 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Linearly increase the spacing?
  3. 00:21:655 - missed sound?
  4. 01:15:955 (4,5) - Counterintuitive flow, I must admit the transition isn't very pleasing. Maybe ctrl+G or red anchor?

    AR, CS, and OD are perfect. Lovely.
I'm sorry Mr. Ongaku, I can't mod the difficulties above. I'm not confident enough in my modding abilities to do so, I'm sure you'll find it uninsightful. Especially since I've never passed a 4* before.. Maybe if you still insist though, I could do it, I really don't mind. It's a win-win situation, since I gain experience, and you get mods. u_u

Also, I'd like to apologize if this mod didn't help much... the map has gone through 4 pages of modding so it's hard for some random no-name like me to find any issue in it. Well, above is my opinion as a player who mainly plays sub-3.5* maps, so perhaps you could consider it.

Good day to you and good luck with this set!
Mir
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Mir

Vyvaeth wrote:

[ Mir's Hard]
  1. There is no sound here: 00:08:355 -
  2. 00:17:755 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Linearly increase the spacing?
  3. 00:21:655 - missed sound?
  4. 01:15:955 (4,5) - Counterintuitive flow, I must admit the transition isn't very pleasing. Maybe ctrl+G or red anchor?

    AR, CS, and OD are perfect. Lovely.
Fixed the last thing cuz I kinda agree, a bit of a diffspike
The rest are okay since the first one would play weird if I skipped the red, the spacing already increase slightly, just not linear or visually, and I don't think mapping that sound would work cuz it's so inaudible.

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188,337,72955,2,0,L|262:333,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
346,274,73355,5,14,0:0:0:0:
447,321,73555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
436,222,73755,2,0,L|449:138,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
407,66,74155,2,0,P|457:56|501:71,2,75,14|2|6,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
325,113,74755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
242,72,74955,2,0,L|158:64,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
77,74,75355,5,6,0:0:0:0:
126,172,75555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
23,170,75755,1,14,0:0:0:0:
72,258,75955,1,2,0:0:0:0:
182,244,76155,2,0,P|205:215|214:179,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,101,76555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
126,172,76755,1,14,0:0:0:0:
261,94,76955,6,0,P|302:105|334:139,2,75,6|2|12,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,101,77555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,180,77755,2,0,L|249:261,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,292,78155,2,0,L|340:217,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
433,302,78555,6,0,P|416:348|302:362,1,150,6|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
247,307,79155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
244,214,79355,2,0,L|168:216,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,305,79755,2,0,L|164:307,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,225,80155,6,0,P|17:260|10:332,1,150,4|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
79,384,80755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
162,306,80955,2,0,L|176:224,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
242,126,81355,2,0,L|256:208,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,298,81755,6,0,L|404:288,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
463,196,82155,2,0,L|367:186,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
254,199,82555,2,0,P|210:235|194:273,2,75,6|2|14,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
317,122,83155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
263,43,83355,6,0,L|171:46,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
86,71,83755,2,0,P|65:127|91:190,1,112.5,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
79,175,84155,2,0,P|100:231|74:294,1,112.5,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
85,279,84555,5,14,0:0:0:0:
256,192,84655,12,2,86155,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86555,5,4,0:0:0:0:
Ongaku
607 posts
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Topic Starter
Ongaku

Vyvaeth wrote:

Okay, time to mod this. However...
I noticed that you are a well known mapper with countless GDs ranked. Your experience in mapping overshadows mine to oblivion. Which is a bit troublesome, because I am now much less confident when modding this. Nonetheless, I'll try to point out some of the concerns I had when playing the three first difficulties as a player.

[ Easy]
I had no problems when playing this, with all mods. However,
  1. I think the HP is underwhelming. Consider increasing it to 3 or 4. done
  2. The OD shouldn't be higher than the AR, because of potential notelocking (especially with DTHR). I guess so
  3. 00:46:555 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This part... is really confusing. I always either get 100s and 50s, or miss because I click too early. It's because there's no (clear)
    distinction between the 1/1 notes and 2/1 notes. You can either: 1. increase the spacing to declare a change in rhythm signature, 2. Stack the notes on each other to achieve the same effect. (Imo, the latter works better, because the song is in a stagnation when it comes to intensity, and it contrasts well with the drop/kiai). you're right, they're pretty weird to read. Rearranged

    Very fun.
[ Normal]
This is fine. Just some issues:
  1. Decrease the OD.. in comparison to other maps of the same SR, it's too high. done
  2. 00:25:755 (4,5) - It would be wise to increase the spacing. Less confusing. Ears get used to hearing 1/2 beats from the sliders before, so the 1/1 notes should be declared properly though spacing (Either increase or stack). When playing the map, I confused them for 1/2 beats and missed. rearrnaged
  3. 01:03:755 (2,2) - Would it be possible to stack these (move 01:03:755 (2) - to 01:05:355 (2) - )? I don't know if it's viable. If you consider my advice though, you'd need to fix the notes before 01:03:755 (2) -. gonna keep the way it is, gotta keep ds consistency lol
Side note about the spread; I think the normal difficulty is just a tad bit harder than the easy difficulty... Maybe make it a 2* instead? It's not even about the SR, anybody who can FC the first difficulty can do the second one with just some more tries. I think you should try to make it a bit harder. The normal was harder before i nerfed it uwu

I'm sorry Mr. Ongaku, I can't mod the difficulties above. I'm not confident enough in my modding abilities to do so, I'm sure you'll find it uninsightful. Especially since I've never passed a 4* before.. Maybe if you still insist though, I could do it, I really don't mind. It's a win-win situation, since I gain experience, and you get mods. u_u don't worry, as long as you tried anything is accepted.

Also, I'd like to apologize if this mod didn't help much... the map has gone through 4 pages of modding so it's hard for some random no-name like me to find any issue in it. Well, above is my opinion as a player who mainly plays sub-3.5* maps, so perhaps you could consider it. really, doesn't matter how long it is, im fine as long as you tried.

Good day to you and good luck with this set! thanks!
Soulblaster
Soulblaster
[ Normal]

I had no problems when playing. Hower,

  1. Consider increasing CS from 2.5 to 3 as it is more comfortable and would add more difficulty.
  2. I believe this map need more HP from 3,5 to 4
  3. 01:10.555 - 01:11.755 If possible consider replacing the 4 circles by sliders from 01: 10.555 to 01: 11.755.

    In my opinion i think this map looks like a easy and needs more difficulty from 1.78 to 2.0+.
Good work! OD and AR looks great!

Regards.
I'm noob in modding, but I want to help you even if I'm a noob. :(
I hope i help you ;)
Seijiro
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o.o

BNs where
Mir
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Mir

MrSergio wrote:

o.o

BNs where
He made the mistake of putting two on his set. :3c
vekt0r
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vekt0r
returning m4m, sorry for delay

Sore wa:
00:13:955 (7,8) - why tiny spacing? imo 8 is stronger
00:16:355 (2) - i see what you’re doing with the wide angle, but imo large spacing/sharp angle should work better here; maybe change previous 2 to wide angle
00:31:755 (3,4) - maybe you can do something with sudden kick on 4, maybe backwards flow from 3 or something, idk just an idea
00:42:955 (3,1) - i think these should be emphasized instead of the 4
00:46:155 (1,2,3) - i get wanting to separate the 2,3 from the 1 but the spacing’s so small
01:00:155 (5,6,1) - this triple feels weird because there doesn’t seem to be much significant here, and this seems more like a ‘break’ in the music
01:00:955 (4) - nc for downbeat and it’s part of the next vocal phrase; you might also want to make this part of the next pattern instead
01:07:355 (1,2,3,4) - feels unintense bc sliderheads too close together and flow creates a “going slower than sv” effect which makes it less intense (basically same effect as 01:00:355 (1,2,3,4) - but i don’t think it fits here)
01:15:355 (1) - also maybe more emphasis on this
following patterns like 01:17:755 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:19:155 (1,2,3,4,5) - that have the player jump every slider, i think 01:22:155 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - isn’t intense enough and doesn’t play as well as the others

MrSergio’s Insane:
00:35:555 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - i think the intensity on these triples is actually descending
01:03:755 (1) - this is kind of important vocally but i don’t think it’s as important as 01:02:555 (1) - or 01:04:155 (3) -, and it’s being emphasized much more with spacing and flow
01:07:155 (9,1) - feels pretty massive compared to previous kiai jumps, also in corresponding 01:00:755 (8,1) - you just stacked
01:11:755 (7) - maybe increase the spacing of this more compared to the rest of pattern
01:15:355 (1) - maybe more emphasis on this idk
01:21:755 (4) - nc for downbeat? also new vocal phrase

really like kiais on both diffs, good luck!
Ongaku
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Topic Starter
Ongaku

vekt0r wrote:

returning m4m, sorry for delay

Sore wa:
00:13:955 (7,8) - why tiny spacing? imo 8 is stronger ill just ctrl+g it, just so 00:14:355 (1,2,3,1) - doesnt play weird
00:16:355 (2) - i see what you’re doing with the wide angle, but imo large spacing/sharp angle should work better here; maybe change previous 2 to wide angle I prefer to keep the wide angle.
00:31:755 (3,4) - maybe you can do something with sudden kick on 4, maybe backwards flow from 3 or something, idk just an idea if there were a bit more vocals in that part, yea I'd change it up a bit, but in this case, it'll stay as it is.
00:42:955 (3,1) - i think these should be emphasized instead of the 4 Just nc'd them
00:46:155 (1,2,3) - i get wanting to separate the 2,3 from the 1 but the spacing’s so small plays just fine
01:00:155 (5,6,1) - this triple feels weird because there doesn’t seem to be much significant here, and this seems more like a ‘break’ in the music Yea, I get what you mean, but I mapped it so there wouldn't be a "break," hence all the 1/4 sliders. lol
01:00:955 (4) - nc for downbeat and it’s part of the next vocal phrase; you might also want to make this part of the next pattern instead It was NC'd, but i decided to change it since vocals didnt have an impact until 01:01:155 (1) - . I was debating it and decided on this decision.
01:07:355 (1,2,3,4) - feels unintense bc sliderheads too close together and flow creates a “going slower than sv” effect which makes it less intense (basically same effect as 01:00:355 (1,2,3,4) - but i don’t think it fits here) They're intentional, before the DS was a bit bigger, but I decided to change them.
01:15:355 (1) - also maybe more emphasis on this cant find a way without breaking my entire aesthetic on that section xd
following patterns like 01:17:755 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:19:155 (1,2,3,4,5) - that have the player jump every slider, i think 01:22:155 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - isn’t intense enough and doesn’t play as well as the others well, they're rhythmically different, so of course they're gonna feel different.

really like kiais on both diffs, good luck!
thanks for the mod!
Seijiro
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vekt0r wrote:

MrSergio’s Insane:
00:35:555 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - i think the intensity on these triples is actually descending that's because you played the other diff first lol.
I feel they are the opposite and overall it would ruin my entire pattern to change such an aspect right now
01:03:755 (1) - this is kind of important vocally but i don’t think it’s as important as 01:02:555 (1) - or 01:04:155 (3) -, and it’s being emphasized much more with spacing and flow it's important... so what should I do? x)
Let's say I noticed something strange myself and converted (2) into a circle only, but be more clear next time lol
01:07:155 (9,1) - feels pretty massive compared to previous kiai jumps, also in corresponding 01:00:755 (8,1) - you just stacked
it feels normal for such a diff tbh, the BPM is not that fast either. The pattern choice was due to the transition I was attempting over instruments rather than vocals in the second part of kiai
01:11:755 (7) - maybe increase the spacing of this more compared to the rest of pattern can ensure it is already really hard like this. Adding more spacing would really make it too intense for my tastes
01:15:355 (1) - maybe more emphasis on this idk the change in direction seems good enough for this...
01:21:755 (4) - nc for downbeat? also new vocal phrase why not

really like kiais on both diffs, good luck!
Thanks for the mod !
https://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/3Oc548EV.osu
Zexous
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"MR. ONGAKU" KID'S ACCOUNT IS GONE
IT'S ONLY BEEN A WEEK
HE'S FUCKING DEAD
Weedy
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Joined January 2014
Weedy
SORE SORE SORE SORE
(gonna try a new format)


suggestion
you should probably do this
unrankable


Easy
you should get your ds act together lol

  1. 00:09:755 (1,2) - i thought you weren't supposed to use stacks in an easy :/ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790369%20do%20something%20like%20this%20instead%20(don't%20mind%20the%20unkemptness%20i%20did%20this%20in%20like%2010%20seconds)
  2. 00:12:955 (1,2) - Same Lol https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790373
  3. 00:19:355 (1) - it'd be cool if the slider "changed lanes" every beat (up down up down)
  4. 00:25:755 (3) - this feels a little out of place, how about an angled slider to fit with 00:24:955 (2) - this more http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790560
  5. 00:30:555 (1) - move 1px up lol blanket
  6. 00:31:355 (2,3) - i think circle -> 1/2 slider at 00:31:755 - is easier to read
  7. 00:46:555 (1,2) - these are too closely spaced to be 2/1 compared to the rest of the song, space them out more
  8. 00:48:155 (3,4) - eyah uh this looks like a 1/2 spacing from slider end to circle, fix the spacing for entire section thanks
  9. just fix your ds mmkay
  10. 00:55:755 - add a circle on top of 00:55:755 - to ease the transition
  11. 01:00:955 (3) - imo this should be two circles because vocals are the highest pitched here
  12. 01:07:355 (3) - ye same
  13. 01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - im pretty sure that kiai flashing in an easy is kinda not what you're supposed to do
  14. 01:11:355 (3) - maybe nc here for readability
  15. 01:16:155 (2) - two circles for vocals™
  16. 01:18:555 (1) - two circles because end abruptly
  17. 01:23:355 (3,4,5,6) - space them out like you did for the "sore sore sore sore" part

Normal
fix your ds
fix sv lol it's so fucking high

  1. 00:39:355 (5) - this looks really bad lol, looks like if you snapped some poor guy's donkey kong xd instead do this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790647
  2. 00:46:555 (1,2) - by snapping here you give false expectation to 00:48:155 (1,2) - this stack being 1/1, unstack like this or something https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790656
  3. 00:49:755 (1,2,3,1,2) - this is fine because the rhythm've been repeated already
  4. 00:56:955 (2,1) - rethink your blanket decisions
  5. 01:00:555 (2,1) - why not this so it doesn't look like you failed a blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790671
  6. 01:10:555 - ow my eyes lol kiai flash in a normal is kinda spooky, remove?
  7. 01:13:355 (2,1) - nice blanket
  8. 01:13:755 (1,2) - nice time distance equality lol, especially when you look at the next note too 01:15:355 (1,2) - you do it right here so do it right there
  9. 01:16:955 (1,2) - how about something like this so it looks a little cleaner https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790689
  10. 01:23:355 (1) - move this over 2 pixels for better blanket
  11. 01:23:355 (1,2) - easy used circles here be consistently harder thanks

Mir's Hard
why is your sv so much lower compared to normal lol

  1. 00:30:555 (1,2) - i want to kill this type of flow tbh
  2. 00:31:155 (3) - should be 2 circles because vocals
  3. 00:49:555 (4) - place at something like 284|196 for readability while maintaining some factor of emphasis because it looks like a 1/1 gap rn
  4. 01:08:955 (1) - this should be a 3/4 slider that starts 01:09:055 - here with a circle where the previous slider head was for better song representation
  5. 01:15:355 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you were gonna hexgrid do it right thanks

MrSergio's Insane
why don't you have the kiai flashes lol

  1. 00:36:555 (10) - nc? to denote different flow and because i hate combo above 9
  2. 00:53:755 (2,3,4) - i think this would be better if 2 was a ctrl + h of 00:52:955 (1) - and (3) (4) be lined up at the middle of the screen for cleanliness and symmetry
  3. 01:03:755 (1,2) - shouldn't this pattern occur where 01:03:355 (5,6) - this is because pitch
  4. 01:03:355 (5,6,1,2) - 01:03:355 (5,6,1,2) - nice flow lol
  5. 01:26:555 (1) - snap to dead center for spooky finish?

sore wa

  1. 00:10:755 (2) - make this a kickslider to cover the twang in the background
  2. 00:12:555 (3,4,1) - make this equal ds like 00:10:755 (2,3,4,1) -
  3. 00:58:955 - add a circle here at 314|80 to cover the voice cutoff
  4. 01:00:955 (4,1) - flip nc
  5. 01:00:955 (4,1,2,3) - flip these like this to emphasize vocals https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791330
  6. 01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this rhythm is wrong lol, it's circle - 1/4 slider - circle - 1/4 slider - 1/4 slider
  7. 01:17:755 (1,2,3,4) - im really disappointed that this isn't a huge circle motion thing https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791367
  8. 01:22:155 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - these are really underwhelming lol, shouldn't they be like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791375
Ongaku
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Topic Starter
Ongaku
Not even the right diff icons smh
Ongaku
607 posts
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Topic Starter
Ongaku

[[Pika]] wrote:

SORE SORE SORE SORE
(gonna try a new format)


suggestion
you should probably do this
unrankable


Easy
you should get your ds act together lol

  1. 00:09:755 (1,2) - i thought you weren't supposed to use stacks in an easy :/https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790369%20do%20something%20like%20this%20instead%20(don't%20mind%20the%20unkemptness%20i%20did%20this%20in%20like%2010%20seconds) fine
  2. 00:12:955 (1,2) - Same Lol https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790373
  3. 00:19:355 (1) - it'd be cool if the slider "changed lanes" every beat (up down up down) I guess
  4. 00:25:755 (3) - this feels a little out of place, how about an angled slider to fit with 00:24:955 (2) - this more http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790560 I just ctrl+g'd 00:24:955 (2) -
  5. 00:30:555 (1) - move 1px up lol blanket too much work
  6. 00:31:355 (2,3) - i think circle -> 1/2 slider at 00:31:755 - is easier to read I prefer this pattern, not too hard or simple (in an easy)
  7. 00:46:555 (1,2) - these are too closely spaced to be 2/1 compared to the rest of the song, space them out more spaced em out
  8. 00:48:155 (3,4) - eyah uh this looks like a 1/2 spacing from slider end to circle, fix the spacing for entire section thanks
  9. just fix your ds mmkayI'd tell you to kill yourself but
  10. 00:55:755 - add a circle on top of 00:55:755 - to ease the transition what happened to "no stacking"
  11. 01:00:955 (3) - imo this should be two circles because vocals are the highest pitched here tried that, too complex for an easy apparently
  12. 01:07:355 (3) - ye same
  13. 01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - im pretty sure that kiai flashing in an easy is kinda not what you're supposed to do does it affect gameplay?
  14. 01:11:355 (3) - maybe nc here for readability sure
  15. 01:16:155 (2) - two circles for vocals™ same issue with being too "hard"
  16. 01:18:555 (1) - two circles because end abruptly
  17. 01:23:355 (3,4,5,6) - space them out like you did for the "sore sore sore sore" partsure

Normal
fix your ds
fix sv lol it's so fucking high

  1. 00:39:355 (5) - this looks really bad lol, looks like if you snapped some poor guy's donkey kong xd instead do this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790647 then it'd fuck up ds, which you were soooo telling me to fix.
  2. 00:46:555 (1,2) - by snapping here you give false expectation to 00:48:155 (1,2) - this stack being 1/1, unstack like this or something https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790656 fine
  3. 00:49:755 (1,2,3,1,2) - this is fine because the rhythm've been repeated already
  4. 00:56:955 (2,1) - rethink your blanket decisions fuck you and your judgement
  5. 01:00:555 (2,1) - why not this so it doesn't look like you failed a blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790671 no, i like the current aesthetics of this
  6. 01:10:555 - ow my eyes lol kiai flash in a normal is kinda spooky, remove? no, i really want this for all of my diffs
  7. 01:13:355 (2,1) - nice blanket
  8. 01:13:755 (1,2) - nice time distance equality lol, especially when you look at the next note too 01:15:355 (1,2) - you do it right here so do it right there oops, 01:13:755 (1) - was supposed to be ctrll+g'd
  9. 01:16:955 (1,2) - how about something like this so it looks a little cleaner https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790689 as clean as it can be
  10. 01:23:355 (1) - move this over 2 pixels for better blanket no
  11. 01:23:355 (1,2) - easy used circles here be consistently harder thanks
changed easy's get fucked

sore wa

  1. 00:10:755 (2) - make this a kickslider to cover the twang in the background I prefer to keep this so it wont ruin the ds you so much love :v
  2. 00:12:555 (3,4,1) - make this equal ds like 00:10:755 (2,3,4,1) - why? they're not the same
  3. 00:58:955 - add a circle here at 314|80 to cover the voice cutoff I prefer the pause
  4. 01:00:955 (4,1) - flip nc no, the vocals start at 01:01:155 (1) - , which is why i NC'd it.
  5. 01:00:955 (4,1,2,3) - flip these like this to emphasize vocals https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791330 aight
  6. 01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this rhythm is wrong lol, it's circle - 1/4 slider - circle - 1/4 slider - 1/4 slider sounds ok to me.
  7. 01:17:755 (1,2,3,4) - im really disappointed that this isn't a huge circle motion thing https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791367 fine
  8. 01:22:155 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - these are really underwhelming lol, shouldn't they be like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791375 I prefer to keep the current patterns.
fuk u and ur ds m8

also, next time when you mod for me, don't use this format, its really annoying, I mean REALLY, annoying to reply to.

thanks btw
Seijiro
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Seijiro

[[Pika]] wrote:

SORE SORE SORE SORE
(gonna try a new format)

ye, but try to do it on the old post next time perhaps xd
Cleaned it

MrSergio's Insane
why don't you have the kiai flashes lol

what kiai flashes
  1. 00:36:555 (10) - nc? to denote different flow and because i hate combo above 9
    not a new combo tho :/
  2. 00:53:755 (2,3,4) - i think this would be better if 2 was a ctrl + h of 00:52:955 (1) - and (3) (4) be lined up at the middle of the screen for cleanliness and symmetry
    I didn't put them symmetrical to the middle of the screen, but that's what I did lol. Not sure what I am missing here
  3. 01:03:755 (1,2) - shouldn't this pattern occur where 01:03:355 (5,6) - this is because pitch
    you might have a different version of my map, since both those patterns use the same pattern now
  4. 01:03:355 (5,6,1,2) - 01:03:355 (5,6,1,2) - nice flow lol
    <3
  5. 01:26:555 (1) - snap to dead center for spooky finish?
    you'd be surprised how much I think about note placement and their influence on the map. That circle is placed like that for the amount of movement you have to make after the spinner's center. Same goes for the direction: it's not random, I wanted that exact feeling. Once you play different versions of that part you can see the difference
Thanks, but no change~

PS: Ongaku means the fact you used a lot of aesthetic code which makes it harder to read while replying to your mod. Simple is better
josh1024
232 posts
Joined October 2014
josh1024
From M4M:

Looks good to me, gonna pick on small things.

Easy
00:56:955 (2) missed a kick sound?

Normal
00:19:355 (3) suggestion, nc here cuz white tick.

Hard
00:57:755 (1) missed some hitsounds?
01:16:555 (6,7) backwards hitsounds?
01:13:755 (3) nc here?

Insane
01:20:955 (1) extra clap?

and sorry for being a million years late.
Mir
osu! Alumni
2,152 posts
Joined July 2016
Mir

[[Pika]] wrote:

SORE SORE SORE SORE
(gonna try a new format)


Mir's Hard
why is your sv so much lower compared to normal lol

  1. 00:30:555 (1,2) - i want to kill this type of flow tbh i dont
  2. 00:31:155 (3) - should be 2 circles because vocals
  3. 00:49:555 (4) - place at something like 284|196 for readability while maintaining some factor of emphasis because it looks like a 1/1 gap rn
  4. 01:08:955 (1) - this should be a 3/4 slider that starts 01:09:055 - here with a circle where the previous slider head was for better song representation was told it's too complicated so no change
  5. 01:15:355 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you were gonna hexgrid do it right thanks not really meant to be correct cuz the pitch decreases so does the pattern spacing
please don't use this format again it hurts my eyes and replying to it is a pain :(

fixed nc from josh1024 but @Ongaku can you check hs

SPOILER
osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:宵々古今
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frogyfro
144 posts
Joined August 2015
frogyfro
m4m from your queue, hopefully this isn't too late.


Easy

00:31:955 (3) - this is the only clickable object in the entire map that is off of a white tick. The overlap does help with readability, but for an easy difficulty i think this is way too hard to read. i'd do this just to make this easy more playable:
SPOILER

01:25:355 (1) - this is an extremely short spinner for an easy diff


Normal

throughout this map you switch between 1/1 overlaps and 1/2 overlaps. while this might be a compelling concept to explore at the insane/expert level, on a normal map patterns this difficult to read really don't have much of a place. i won't comment on all of them, but i'd personally stick to either 1/1 or 1/2 overlaps and not constantly switch it up.

00:16:155 (1,2) - reading this as a 3/2 gap is extremely difficult.

00:19:355 (3,1) - doesn't make much sense to me to use 3 to map the drum sound, but ignore the drum at 19:955. shorten the length of 00:19:555 (1) a bit and put a circle on 20:155

00:31:355 (2,3,4) - possibly you could replace 2 and 3 with a slider here just to reduce ambiguity?

00:48:155 (1,2,3,1,2) - this part is particularly bad to read because 00:48:155 (1,2) are 1/2 apart but 00:49:755 (1,2) are 1/1 apart. if you want to keep most of the other overlaps, fine, but this one is a serious problem in regards to playability.


Mir's Hard

00:16:155 (1,2,3) - the drum sound at 16:355 isn't getting enough attention in this current pattern. i'd go for this instead:
SPOILER

00:31:155 (3) - maybe replace with 2 circles to give more emphasis to the vocals here? right now i feel like putting 00:31:155 (3,4) on red ticks is unjustified, but it would make a lot more sense if you explicitly mapped to the vocals here.

01:23:755 (2,3) - i'd be fine with these, but earlier at 01:08:955 (1,2,3) you used a pattern like this to catch the vocals that were on blue ticks. it seems inconsistent to use sliders like this again when the vocals aren't on blue ticks like before


MrSergio's Insane

00:08:421 (2) - i'm pretty sure this one is 1/6 and not 1/8.

00:11:605 (2) - i'd make this a repeat slider.

00:32:155 (1) - this slider head is over silence.


Sore wa

00:11:621 (2,3,4) - this one is 1/8 and not 1/6. might want to just do 1/8 sliders here.

00:38:755 (2,3,4) - at this point the vocals drop out. i think because of that it would make more sense if these notes would break the triangle pattern instead of conforming to it.

01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part really clashes with the vocals. something like this would work much better

SPOILER


hopefully this helps! apart from normal this felt like a very solid mapset to me
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ongaku
Once i get back home, ill apply everything and bug lasse/pentori xd
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ongaku

josh1024 wrote:

From M4M:

Looks good to me, gonna pick on small things.

Easy
00:56:955 (2) missed a kick sound?

Normal
00:19:355 (3) suggestion, nc here cuz white tick.

Hard
00:57:755 (1) missed some hitsounds?
01:16:555 (6,7) backwards hitsounds?
01:13:755 (3) nc here?

Insane
01:20:955 (1) extra clap?

and sorry for being a million years late.
everything fixed


frogyfro wrote:

m4m from your queue, hopefully this isn't too late.


Easy

00:31:955 (3) - this is the only clickable object in the entire map that is off of a white tick. The overlap does help with readability, but for an easy difficulty i think this is way too hard to read. i'd do this just to make this easy more playable:
SPOILER
applied

01:25:355 (1) - this is an extremely short spinner for an easy diff yea, im just gonna revert it back to it's old one.


Normal

throughout this map you switch between 1/1 overlaps and 1/2 overlaps. while this might be a compelling concept to explore at the insane/expert level, on a normal map patterns this difficult to read really don't have much of a place. i won't comment on all of them, but i'd personally stick to either 1/1 or 1/2 overlaps and not constantly switch it up. I hoped to make it more difficult cuz its only a few SR above Easy.

00:16:155 (1,2) - reading this as a 3/2 gap is extremely difficult. shouldnt be, theres a pause there so it should give the player enough time to read it.

00:19:355 (3,1) - doesn't make much sense to me to use 3 to map the drum sound, but ignore the drum at 19:955. shorten the length of 00:19:555 (1) a bit and put a circle on 20:155 I've always considered this, but i guess ill do it now.

00:31:355 (2,3,4) - possibly you could replace 2 and 3 with a slider here just to reduce ambiguity? there were distinct notes in the song,
so it really prefer not to.

00:48:155 (1,2,3,1,2) - this part is particularly bad to read because 00:48:155 (1,2) are 1/2 apart but 00:49:755 (1,2) are 1/1 apart. if you want to keep most of the other overlaps, fine, but this one is a serious problem in regards to playability. fixed 00:49:755 (1,2) -


Sore wa

00:11:621 (2,3,4) - this one is 1/8 and not 1/6. might want to just do 1/8 sliders here. I was really against it since it'd just make it look inconsistent, but I guess ill change it.

00:38:755 (2,3,4) - at this point the vocals drop out. i think because of that it would make more sense if these notes would break the triangle pattern instead of conforming to it. I prefer this follow up from the vocals

01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part really clashes with the vocals. something like this would work much better changed

SPOILER


hopefully this helps! apart from normal this felt like a very solid mapset to me
thanks guys
Seijiro
osu! Alumni
3,438 posts
Joined April 2013
Seijiro
@frogryfro

fixed first, second one would ruin the map's consistency, third one has a soft bell on it. Turn off hitsounds and listen carefully


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Mir
osu! Alumni
2,152 posts
Joined July 2016
Mir

frogyfro wrote:

Mir's Hard

00:16:155 (1,2,3) - the drum sound at 16:355 isn't getting enough attention in this current pattern. i'd go for this instead: - mm i think it's okay for me, im trying to follow the lead while merging the drums there
SPOILER

00:31:155 (3) - maybe replace with 2 circles to give more emphasis to the vocals here? right now i feel like putting 00:31:155 (3,4) on red ticks is unjustified, but it would make a lot more sense if you explicitly mapped to the vocals here. - Uhh this is explicitly mapped to vocals I just put more emphasis on where there are more of them

01:23:755 (2,3) - i'd be fine with these, but earlier at 01:08:955 (1,2,3) you used a pattern like this to catch the vocals that were on blue ticks. it seems inconsistent to use sliders like this again when the vocals aren't on blue ticks like before
Fixed unmentioned.

SPOILER
osu file format v14

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Title:YoiYoi Kokon
TitleUnicode:宵々古今
Artist:REOL
ArtistUnicode:REOL
Creator:Ongaku
Version:Mir's Hard
Source:
Tags:jbhyperion mrsergio mir sigma giga
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Okoayu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
4,959 posts
Joined May 2012
Okoayu

p sure i am a t2 bn
if this normal gets bubbled in its current state i'll veto for the bold thing
lol

ding hitsounds are annoying as heck if spammed so much
[sore wa]
01:19:955 (5) - only slider that you stacked perfectly looks like mistake

[sergio]
00:08:421 (2) - 1/6 at this speed is pretty playable so uhh why
00:11:605 (2) - seems better like http://i.imgur.com/YujM08t.png

[mir]
enjoyable diff gj
00:48:955 - in this part i would map only the drums and not morph both with vocals because i think that would have a better effect and feel less odd (currently the morphed rhythms for 00:48:155 (2,3) - feel super strange)

[normal]
00:14:555 (1,1) - space further apart because spacing change is super offputting if its downwards and not a stack
00:25:755 (4,5,1) - considering people are prone to fuck up order of patterns like these even with new combos i'd suggest making the order of objects as obvious as the kiai
00:59:355 (1) - edgelord
00:52:155 (3) - 00:42:555 (2) - could be potentially offscreen but i didnt check that i just wrote it down so you have to check yourself lol
kiai should be changed with the song being as energetic just looping the exact same rhythm for half the map is super lame

[easy]
could use STR 1 because 1/2 rhythms are way less frequent
01:10:555 (1,2,1,2) - you didnt combo this in normal
00:11:355 (1,1) - aesthetics lol
00:56:155 (1) - completely hiding sliderhead under another slider makes people panick that dont know what this is and i dont think thats necessary
kiai could use more variation from just spamming 1/1

please put a bit more effort in the easy and normal and the set is cool
thanks
Mir
osu! Alumni
2,152 posts
Joined July 2016
Mir
tried to make the slow part mentioned less mergy and more drummy

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@ongaku-chan please reapply hitsounds ;w;
Seijiro
osu! Alumni
3,438 posts
Joined April 2013
Seijiro
oko, anything aside from 1/4 (like 00:16:755 (4,5,6) - 00:10:355 (4,5,6) - ) is supposed to be made easier to play thanks to slider leniency, this way the player has to stream only on the 1/4 snap.

If I change the first one you pointed out I have a reason to change the second too, but both are linked to 00:06:945 (1) - so I either change them all into strange snaps or nothing for the sake of consistency in the style ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ongaku

Okorin wrote:


p sure i am a t2 bn
if this normal gets bubbled in its current state i'll veto for the bold thing
lol

ding hitsounds are annoying as heck if spammed so much everyone kept saying that, so i guess ill change

[sore wa]
01:19:955 (5) - only slider that you stacked perfectly looks like mistake for the sake of consistency, changed

[normal]
00:14:555 (1,1) - space further apart because spacing change is super offputting if its downwards and not a stack changed
00:25:755 (4,5,1) - considering people are prone to fuck up order of patterns like these even with new combos i'd suggest making the order of objects as obvious as the kiai changed
00:59:355 (1) - edgelord I mean, its actually not out of the grid so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
00:52:155 (3) - 00:42:555 (2) - could be potentially offscreen but i didnt check that i just wrote it down so you have to check yourself lol fixed
kiai should be changed with the song being as energetic just looping the exact same rhythm for half the map is super lame revamped it and tried making it with a tad more variation.

[easy]
could use STR 1 because 1/2 rhythms are way less frequent applied
01:10:555 (1,2,1,2) - you didnt combo this in normal changed
00:11:355 (1,1) - aesthetics lol lol ok
00:56:155 (1) - completely hiding sliderhead under another slider makes people panick that dont know what this is and i dont think thats necessary fixed
kiai could use more variation from just spamming 1/1

please put a bit more effort in the easy and normal and the set is cool
thanks
thanks <3
Okoayu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
4,959 posts
Joined May 2012
Okoayu
mir fix ur slider?
Mir
osu! Alumni
2,152 posts
Joined July 2016
Mir

Okorin wrote:

mir fix ur slider?
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Absolute Zero
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Absolute Zero
just some other touches to update since this is actually going places
ONGAKU JUST SO YOU KNOW THESE ARE QUICK AND SMALL

[Hyperion's Rain]
I have a few things you might want to change:
00:09:355 (7,1) - Not sure if it's me, but this distance always catches me a little off-guard and I undershoot it. Consider playing around with it so it's not a hold-dash, as you have had many before (hyper or lower distance, either works).
00:09:755 (1,2) - Similarly, this distance is surprisingly long.
00:11:155 (7) - Tiny thing--consider moving to x=160 just to put more movement in between (6,7).
00:55:355 (3,4,1) - I still feel that the dash-hold here is too large--it causes an easy miss on (4) because the player's trying to get to (1). Lower distance slightly.
01:04:155 (1,2,3) - I wish this pattern wasn't a back-forth-back-forth because it becomes a bit awkward to read for a rain player as the distances increase.
01:16:555 (4,1,2) - This should be fine but consider toning the pattern down a bit with the double hyper (from antiflow).

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Absolute Zero wrote:

just some other touches to update since this is actually going places
ONGAKU JUST SO YOU KNOW THESE ARE QUICK AND SMALL

[Hyperion's Rain]
I have a few things you might want to change:
00:09:355 (7,1) - Not sure if it's me, but this distance always catches me a little off-guard and I undershoot it. Consider playing around with it so it's not a hold-dash, as you have had many before (hyper or lower distance, either works). Moved 00:08:155 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - right a bit to reduce distance
00:09:755 (1,2) - Similarly, this distance is surprisingly long. And then moved it back a bit xd
00:11:155 (7) - Tiny thing--consider moving to x=160 just to put more movement in between (6,7). K, moved 00:10:955 (6) - a bit to the left also
00:55:355 (3,4,1) - I still feel that the dash-hold here is too large--it causes an easy miss on (4) because the player's trying to get to (1). Lower distance slightly. Moved 00:55:355 (3) - left a bit, so it just requires a little tap dash
01:04:155 (1,2,3) - I wish this pattern wasn't a back-forth-back-forth because it becomes a bit awkward to read for a rain player as the distances increase. The vocal here requires more emphasis so I have to use antiflow here to avoid too many hypers. Kept the idea but angled (1) a bit more vertically for less movement
01:16:555 (4,1,2) - This should be fine but consider toning the pattern down a bit with the double hyper (from antiflow). This is less difficult than 01:17:555 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - which comes after imo and still pretty lenient for a Rain despite this being an intense vocal pattern in the kiai so I'd prefer to keep it

Overdose is fine. cs5 is fun. cs5 is fun. cs5 is fun.
Discussed changes in PM with AZ, hopefully this is fine now! (:

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Ongaku
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Ongaku
Dont forget the .osu
JBHyperion
osu!catch Paragon
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JBHyperion

Ongaku wrote:

Dont forget the .osu
I forgot my brain instead orz

updated previous post
Okoayu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
4,959 posts
Joined May 2012
Okoayu
sry for asking but on highest diff is 00:59:355 (1,1) - reloading the same way on purpose or not (((you fixed the other thing)))

im fine with the diffs now
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Ongaku

Okorin wrote:

sry for asking but on highest diff is 00:59:355 (1,1) - reloading the same way on purpose or not (((you fixed the other thing)))

im fine with the diffs now
yea, its on purpose
Absolute Zero
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Absolute Zero
Sore sore sore sore

Bubbled!


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