REOL - YoiYoi Kokon [Osu|CatchTheBeat] · forum

Aurele

osu! Alumni

Joined January 2011

Aurele 2017-05-04T02:47:14+00:00

cause you only requested me to check at the normal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Normal]

00:14:555 (1) - Awkward spacing. Make it consistent.
00:17:555 (2) - If I look to your previous objects, you were mostly using a 0.85x spacing. You should consider doing the same thing here?
00:25:355 (3) - I would rather use a normal consistent spacing with this object, it makes an awkward transition with the next circle.
00:33:355 (1,1,2) - Pretty sure you can do a better blanket here. It's looking like this right now:
picture
00:35:355 (1,2,3,4) - Might as well consider making it perfectly centered.
00:36:555 (4,1,2,3) - Revise the symmetry of these objects. (4) is not stacked with (3)
00:40:155 (1) - What is this jump for? Keep the spacing consistent.
00:41:755 (1) - Inconsistent spacing.
00:42:555 (2,1) - Awkward jump and flow. Consider doing something more beginner-friendly here. It does look good, but not for this difficulty as the spacing the not consistent and the cursor movement is awkward.
00:44:155 (2) - Inconsistent spacing.
1. 00:44:155 (2,1,2) - Actually, that's a nice thing, but you should remember that this is a normal difficulty. This kind of flow might be too extreme for beginners. Consider doing something else.
01:02:555 (1) - It would be nice if this slider was moved further down since it looks like it has the same position as 00:59:355 (1) - . It needs more 'versatility'
01:03:755 (2,1) - Not so bad, but you should consider doing something else with the emplacement and the flow of the slider (2) with the slider (1). Maybe something that would make them more connected?
01:09:755 (2,1,2,3,4,1) - You might wanna rework the emplacement of these objects a bit. Try to make it more consistent toward the spacing.
- On another note, you should be careful with the usage of kiai times, just not to overuse them!
01:13:355 (2) - The spacing with the previous and next object + the flow with the next object might be a trouble here. If you want to keep the emplacement of the slider (2), you should consider doing a CTRL+G to the next slider. The flow will be much more better.

tl:dr be careful with the SPACING and the FLOW of your objects. these are two elements that shall be revised.
you should be glad you didn't ask me to look at the other diffs

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-05-04T21:48:14+00:00

Gabe wrote:

cause you only requested me to check at the normal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Normal]
00:14:555 (1) - Awkward spacing. Make it consistent. Its .80, isn't it?
00:17:555 (2) - If I look to your previous objects, you were mostly using a 0.85x spacing. You should consider doing the same thing here? the ~.80 spacing was when its two measures apart. 00:17:555 (2) - lands on a 1/2, so the DS would be shorter.
00:25:355 (3) - I would rather use a normal consistent spacing with this object, it makes an awkward transition with the next circle. ok
00:33:355 (1,1,2) - Pretty sure you can do a better blanket here. It's looking like this right now:
picture
fixed
00:35:355 (1,2,3,4) - Might as well consider making it perfectly centered. It is snapped to the center, its just due to it's stacking it looks like it isnt.
00:36:555 (4,1,2,3) - Revise the symmetry of these objects. (4) is not stacked with (3) did something
00:40:155 (1) - What is this jump for? Keep the spacing consistent. fixed it
00:41:755 (1) - Inconsistent spacing. I think i fixed it.
00:42:555 (2,1) - Awkward jump and flow. Consider doing something more beginner-friendly here. It does look good, but not for this difficulty as the spacing the not consistent and the cursor movement is awkward. did something
00:44:155 (2) - Inconsistent spacing. fixed it
00:44:155 (2,1,2) - Actually, that's a nice thing, but you should remember that this is a normal difficulty. This kind of flow might be too extreme for beginners. Consider doing something else.
rearranged the pattern.
01:02:555 (1) - It would be nice if this slider was moved further down since it looks like it has the same position as 00:59:355 (1) - . It needs more 'versatility' moved it down
01:03:755 (2,1) - Not so bad, but you should consider doing something else with the emplacement and the flow of the slider (2) with the slider (1). Maybe something that would make them more connected? I prefer to keep this pattern.
01:09:755 (2,1,2,3,4,1) - You might wanna rework the emplacement of these objects a bit. Try to make it more consistent toward the spacing. fixed the arrangement.
Due to (4) being stacked over slider (1), the placement is a bit funky.
On another note, you should be careful with the usage of kiai times, just not to overuse them!
B-but it doesn't affect the gameplay that much D:
01:13:355 (2) - The spacing with the previous and next object + the flow with the next object might be a trouble here. If you want to keep the emplacement of the slider (2), you should consider doing a CTRL+G to the next slider. The flow will be much more better.
fixed

tl:dr be careful with the SPACING and the FLOW of your objects. these are two elements that shall be revised.
you should be glad you didn't ask me to look at the other diffs

Halfslashed wrote:
Free mod.
~~Holy fuck your timeline zoom is high.~~ damn right

[Easy]
00:14:555 (1,1) - Maybe symmetry isn't the best arrangement here. I think it makes more sense for the slider ball of 00:16:155 (1) to hit the red node somewhere near 00:16:355. Maybe try a parallel arrangement instead? Did make 00:16:155 (1) - hit the red tick, but was told it was "too hard for an easy" and reconsidered.
00:16:155 (1) - Can't see any reason for this NC removed
00:17:555 (2,3,1) - Can't say I understand what's going on with the DS here. 00:14:555 (1,1,2) you make a clear switch to 1.07x DS (And it should be comprehensible), but then you switch to 0.8x and then 1.0x? This is fairly inconsistent distance, so perhaps change the DS between these objects to 1.07x? might have remapped this section
00:19:355 (1,2) - Avoid this overlap if you can. I don't think it's the biggest deal, though it is a bit unclean. cleaned
00:22:555 (1) - Yeah I know intensity picked up and all, but I still think that NCing every measure is a bit much when you only have two objects per measure. Consider switching to a NC every two measure setup. removed excessive NCs
00:26:555 (2,1) - Two problems I have with this. First of all, this is an unexpected spacing change. Second, you didn't set up 1/2 repeats properly, since you didn't introduce any repeats other than this, and 1/2 is already really fast to comprehend for new players. If you're going to keep this rhythm, you should introduce a repeat of 1/1 or slower snap prior to this so that the player understands how repeats work. already remapped it
00:48:155 (3,4,1) - Reconsider your spacing here. These are gaps between two seperate snaps and yet the spacing is extremely similar here, so I recommend making both 0.6x DS. all .60
00:52:955 (1,2) - Why not try using circles for this? This is a less intense section, and circles with 2/1 gaps should be less stressful for players at this level. I prefer having sliders.
00:57:755 (3,1) - This 2/1 gap looks extremely similar to the 1/1 gap between 00:56:955 (2,3), and is therefore pretty confusing. Create a more noticeable change here. 1.0 DS
01:03:355 (2,1) - Nazi, but fix DS please. holy
01:08:155 (2,1) - As above. fixed them
01:08:955 (1,2) - I'm not entirely sure on the readability of this pattern for an Easy difficulty. Please get some more opinions on this. rearranged

[Normal]
00:08:155 (1,2,3) - You just started the map and you have 1/2 gaps that look the same as 1/1 gaps. This is not readable for players at this level at all, and you have this problem recurring throughout most of the map. I'll point out some instances where you do this, but this highly affects readability. already remapped intro
00:10:955 (4,1) - You could make this a bit neater, and I think it would improve readability due to the tight visual distance between 00:10:555 (3,4,1) . Basically, move 00:11:355 (1) onto the curve created by 00:10:955 (4). remapped
00:14:555 (1,2) - Again, I'm questioning the readability of such a pattern for a normal difficulty. Get more opinions on this. remapped
00:15:355 (2,3) - Another instance of rapidly changing your distance to be equal to a 1/2 snap. remapped
00:17:555 (5,1) - The visually similar spacing thing applies to stacks as well. Since you introduced a 1/1 stack at 00:09:755 (1,2), you will confuse players quite a bit with switching to 1/2 stacks. Pick one or the other for this map. remapped
00:24:955 (2,3) - DS looks the same as 00:24:155 (1,2). i think i fixed it
00:29:755 (2,1) - This would work much better if you didn't have 2 overlapping the tail of 1. You could just change this by increasing the DS to 1.3x for 00:29:755 (2,3) (Or just this entire section.) remapped
00:38:555 (1,2,3) - Would be better if you found a way to not have these overlap. remapped
00:43:355 (1,1) - Off blanket and worth mentioning that you will not be able to get a perfect blanket with just one gray node. You need two or more to do so (I prefer three). remapped
00:48:355 (2,3,1) - Patterning is kind of ambiguous since 2 leads into 1, as opposed to 3. It's not that bad since you have the NCing, but avoid this if you can. fixed...?
00:57:755 (1,1) - This overlap is something else. I mean, it's kind of neat, but you could make it neater if you made the red node of the second slider towards the center of it (and not have the tails overlap). rearranged
01:02:555 (1) - Just barely touches the top of the HP bar. shouldn't now
01:11:755 (1,1) - No. Get rid of this reverse arrow stack, this is unrankable. removed
01:22:955 (2) - Border is slightly hidden behind the head of 2, I'd make the angle created by the red node a bit wider so the player can see the slider border more clearly. Also, could you do something about the massive distance between this and 01:23:355 (1)? moved border

Okay. So basically, you should reconsider you distance concepts. You cannot randomly change distance in similar sections in the music, and you shouldn't do it between the same snap. If it's a long time, like 2/1 or greater (for this difficulty), it's okay not to have super consistent distance, but for a section of a certain musical intensity, 1/1 spacing should be consistent, 1/2 spacing should be consistent, 3/2 spacing, etc. Additionally, none of these various distances should look extremely similar.

thankies <3

Negri_sk

298 posts

Joined January 2013

Negri_sk 2017-05-13T12:09:26+00:00

Hello

[Hyperion's Rain]

00:06:945 (1,2) - You know, I see what you're doing here, and yes, this difficulty is suppose to be easier but the difficulty isn't suppose to be THAT much easier, I suggest you to move the (2) slightly to the right, not to create a hyper rather to make something more interesting than this "STANDING STILL PATTERN IN A RAIN".

00:29:955 (6,7,8) - Since I believe this type of weird antiflow shouldn't be used I suggest you first of CTRL+G (6) and (7) then you CTRL+G them once individually and then you CTRL+G the (8) and move it to x333 thus creating a way more enjoyable pattern. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8075137 (Approximetly how it's suppose to look like.)

00:58:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Really would've like to see you do something more interesting with this stream, try something else!

[Hyperion's Overdose]

00:06:945 (1,2) - If you CTRL+G this your catcher will be at the position where the map actually "starts" if you catch these 2, thus making it easier to read?

00:58:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I mentioned this in the last difficulty aswell, however this time around you are more freely to do what you want since it's a overdose, so i'd suggest you try buffing this stream since it's such a strong beat and what not.

01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - I highly recommend you make all of these face outwards instead of inwards since there's no real sound seperating these 4 from 01:11:355 (5,6,7,8) - these 4 and generally it's quite a quality of life "nerf" i'd say.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-05-14T07:59:06+00:00

Negri_sk wrote:
Hello Hello

[Hyperion's Rain]

00:06:945 (1,2) - You know, I see what you're doing here, and yes, this difficulty is suppose to be easier but the difficulty isn't suppose to be THAT much easier, I suggest you to move the (2) slightly to the right, not to create a hyper rather to make something more interesting than this "STANDING STILL PATTERN IN A RAIN". Made a little walk, anything more is unpredictable with no prior musical cue

00:29:955 (6,7,8) - Since I believe this type of weird antiflow shouldn't be used I suggest you first of CTRL+G (6) and (7) then you CTRL+G them once individually and then you CTRL+G the (8) and move it to x333 thus creating a way more enjoyable pattern. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8075137 (Approximetly how it's suppose to look like.) Okay, simplified this

00:58:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Really would've like to see you do something more interesting with this stream, try something else! I feel this is as interesting as I can get without introducing jumps, and 1/8 jumps at this BPM are a no-go

[Hyperion's Overdose]

00:06:945 (1,2) - If you CTRL+G this your catcher will be at the position where the map actually "starts" if you catch these 2, thus making it easier to read? I deliberately separated these to avoid that, such a widely spaced (on the timeline) stack is not predictable and offers less emphasis

00:58:105 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I mentioned this in the last difficulty aswell, however this time around you are more freely to do what you want since it's a overdose, so i'd suggest you try buffing this stream since it's such a strong beat and what not. The music itself is not especially strong compared to the vocals before and after, and 1/8 hypers feel incredibly overdone spread-wise. I prefer a simpler pattern here

01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - I highly recommend you make all of these face outwards instead of inwards since there's no real sound seperating these 4 from 01:11:355 (5,6,7,8) - these 4 and generally it's quite a quality of life "nerf" i'd say. Angle is increasing to aid the buildup effect, and also because I'm space limited on the right side

Thanks for the mod!

Rain

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Overdose

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Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,950 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-05-17T01:42:29+00:00

why'd you link overdose when nothing changed

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-05-17T08:21:27+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
why'd you link overdose when nothing changed

I made some minor changes to a couple of jump patterns that were essentially trivial to mention, but logically yes it would have made sense to actually clarify that I suppose.

Absolute Zero

595 posts

Joined August 2014

Absolute Zero 2017-06-18T00:57:05+00:00

YOIYOIYOIYOIYOIYOIYIOYIOIYOIYOIYOIYOYOIIYOIYOIYOIYIO

[Hyperion’s Rain]
00:30:855 (2) - I don’t think a sound is strong enough to warrant a hitcircle here. If you want to keep it, I would add a hitcircle on 00:38:055.
00:55:755 (4,1) - I don’t know if it’s me, but I always undershoot this dash if I’m not specifically paying attention to it. I think it’s because otherwise I don’t need to hold dash to reach the note. I would lower distance at least slightly.
01:04:155 (1,2,3) - This back-forth feels like a pattern that would better fit an overdose. I would simplify this pattern’s movements slightly.
01:24:755 (1,1) - Personally, I think the dash after this note+spinner might lead to some last-note misses.
Really, really solid rain.

[Hyperion’s Overdose]
see ess five
00:54:755 (2,3) - Flowbreaking low distance from 00:54:555 (1,2). I would increase it.
01:08:355 (5,6) - Unexpected directional change not because of the movement, but because it doesn’t have a hyper on it.
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I feel like the “sore sore” can be accented even more by increasing distancing between the back-forth as time goes on. Right now, I feel it’s not accented enough.

Good quality

k_hand:

If i'm still here i'll icon it

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-06-19T13:33:55+00:00

Absolute Zero wrote:
YOIYOIYOIYOIYOIYOIYIOYIOIYOIYOIYOIYOYOIIYOIYOIYOIYIO sore

[Hyperion’s Rain]
00:30:855 (2) - I don’t think a sound is strong enough to warrant a hitcircle here. If you want to keep it, I would add a hitcircle on 00:38:055. 00:38:055 - has no real sound and breaks the 1/2 emphasis I want to maintain there, whereas 00:30:855 - has a drum and vocal effect sound similar to previous patterns such as 00:22:555 (1,2,3) - and 00:27:755 (2,3,4) - so I feel it fits nicely here too
00:55:755 (4,1) - I don’t know if it’s me, but I always undershoot this dash if I’m not specifically paying attention to it. I think it’s because otherwise I don’t need to hold dash to reach the note. I would lower distance at least slightly. Okay, moved 00:54:555 (1,2,3,4) - right a little so this is a bit more lenient
01:04:155 (1,2,3) - This back-forth feels like a pattern that would better fit an overdose. I would simplify this pattern’s movements slightly. I want to keep this as I don't feel it's a particular difficulty spike, but I did make 01:04:155 (1) - a bit less horizontal, so the tail is easier to catch
01:24:755 (1,1) - Personally, I think the dash after this note+spinner might lead to some last-note misses. Npt emphasizing it makes it feel very anticlimactic, I tried to make it as fair as possible by starting on the right side where the spinner end is more dense
Really, really solid rain.

[Hyperion’s Overdose]
see ess five fruit ninja
00:54:755 (2,3) - Flowbreaking low distance from 00:54:555 (1,2). I would increase it. Moved (2) right a bit so (2,3) is a more comfortable walk
01:08:355 (5,6) - Unexpected directional change not because of the movement, but because it doesn’t have a hyper on it. Added hyper I guess? Hopefully the antiflow isn't too punishing here
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I feel like the “sore sore” can be accented even more by increasing distancing between the back-forth as time goes on. Right now, I feel it’s not accented enough. Increased em a little, though I'd like to avoid going fullscreen nonsense lol
Good quality k_hand:

If i'm still here i'll icon it

Thanks for the mod!

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Overdose

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Keiger

323 posts

Joined December 2016

Keiger 2017-06-23T02:31:29+00:00

are you still accepting gd's or no?

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-06-23T02:32:13+00:00

ItsSurreal wrote:
are you still accepting gd's or no?

No, set is finished

Beepu

139 posts

Joined September 2014

Beepu 2017-07-17T21:37:52+00:00

My english is bad.
I love this song so much.
So maybe my suggestions can't help you
but I want to try it.

Rain :

00:59:755 (3,4,5,6) - i think voice start on 00:59:755 - to 01:00:155 - end
so I will modify it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616112
01:05:255 - add a new circle? idk
that is six jump. this can make some diversity style.
01:18:155 (7,8) - make a slider? because this part is the same 01:19:755 (6) -
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - I think this part can use volume to accentuate the mood.
like 01:10:555 (1) - 70% 01:10:955 (2) - 75% 01:11:355 (3) - 80% 01:11:755 (4) - 85%

Overdose :

00:44:355 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - voice is end on 00:44:355 (5) -
so 00:44:555 - is rhythm I will use a circle. And 00:44:755 - start the voice.
I will modify this part like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616458
00:44:755 - to 00:45:155 - I want to make a round trip slider
but I feel this is better buz they are regularly like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616543
01:05:255 - add NC?
01:18:455 - and 01:20:055 - I am thinking to add a NC will better than now? idk

Hope I can help you.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-07-25T17:07:34+00:00

[-naniwa-] wrote:
My english is bad.
I love this song so much.
So maybe my suggestions can't help you
but I want to try it.

Rain :

00:59:755 (3,4,5,6) - i think voice start on 00:59:755 - to 01:00:155 - end
so I will modify it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616112 That idea works if I just want to follow the vocal, but the drum sound on 01:00:155 (4) - is quite strong also, so I want to include a jump here. That's why I split it up into two sliders instead of a repeat
01:05:255 - add a new circle? idk
that is six jump. this can make some diversity style. This is a little repetitive I guess, but for me 01:04:655 - is a better place to add a note because of the vocal, so I added one there instead
01:18:155 (7,8) - make a slider? because this part is the same 01:19:755 (6) - Good point, done
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - I think this part can use volume to accentuate the mood.
like 01:10:555 (1) - 70% 01:10:955 (2) - 75% 01:11:355 (3) - 80% 01:11:755 (4) - 85% Nice idea, not sure why I didn't do this actually.
Done on both diffs

Overdose :

00:44:355 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - voice is end on 00:44:355 (5) -
so 00:44:555 - is rhythm I will use a circle. And 00:44:755 - start the voice.
I will modify this part like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616458 Similar to first point in Rain, I also want to emphasise drums here, since I use them to indicate jumps. This is one of the places where I switch between rhythms and is easy to follow because of the low spacing on 00:43:955 (4,5) -
00:44:755 - to 00:45:155 - I want to make a round trip slider
but I feel this is better buz they are regularly like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616543 Didn't change this because it requires me to make the change above which I declined
01:05:255 - add NC? The kiai follows a consistent 4-beat NC pattern, with an NC added on each downbeat. There's no real special reason to break that here I think
01:18:455 - and 01:20:055 - I am thinking to add a NC will better than now? idk As above

Hope I can help you.

Thanks for your suggestions!

Posting code for both since I made the volume change on Overdose as well.

Rain

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Overdose

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Vyvaeth

Vyvaeth 2017-07-26T23:56:54+00:00

Okay, time to mod this. However...
I noticed that you are a well known mapper with countless GDs ranked. Your experience in mapping overshadows mine to oblivion. Which is a bit troublesome, because I am now much less confident when modding this. Nonetheless, I'll try to point out some of the concerns I had when playing the three first difficulties as a player.

[

Easy]
I had no problems when playing this, with all mods. However,

I think the HP is underwhelming. Consider increasing it to 3 or 4.
The OD shouldn't be higher than the AR, because of potential notelocking (especially with DTHR).
00:46:555 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This part... is really confusing. I always either get 100s and 50s, or miss because I click too early. It's because there's no (clear)
distinction between the 1/1 notes and 2/1 notes. You can either: 1. increase the spacing to declare a change in rhythm signature, 2. Stack the notes on each other to achieve the same effect. (Imo, the latter works better, because the song is in a stagnation when it comes to intensity, and it contrasts well with the drop/kiai).

Very fun.

[

Normal]
This is fine. Just some issues:

Decrease the OD.. in comparison to other maps of the same SR, it's too high.
00:25:755 (4,5) - It would be wise to increase the spacing. Less confusing. Ears get used to hearing 1/2 beats from the sliders before, so the 1/1 notes should be declared properly though spacing (Either increase or stack). When playing the map, I confused them for 1/2 beats and missed.
01:03:755 (2,2) - Would it be possible to stack these (move 01:03:755 (2) - to 01:05:355 (2) - )? I don't know if it's viable. If you consider my advice though, you'd need to fix the notes before 01:03:755 (2) -.

Side note about the spread; I think the normal difficulty is just a tad bit harder than the easy difficulty... Maybe make it a 2* instead? It's not even about the SR, anybody who can FC the first difficulty can do the second one with just some more tries. I think you should try to make it a bit harder.

[

Mir's Hard]

There is no sound here: 00:08:355 -
00:17:755 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Linearly increase the spacing?
00:21:655 - missed sound?
01:15:955 (4,5) - Counterintuitive flow, I must admit the transition isn't very pleasing. Maybe ctrl+G or red anchor?

AR, CS, and OD are perfect. Lovely.

I'm sorry Mr. Ongaku, I can't mod the difficulties above. I'm not confident enough in my modding abilities to do so, I'm sure you'll find it uninsightful. Especially since I've never passed a 4* before.. Maybe if you still insist though, I could do it, I really don't mind. It's a win-win situation, since I gain experience, and you get mods. u_u

Also, I'd like to apologize if this mod didn't help much... the map has gone through 4 pages of modding so it's hard for some random no-name like me to find any issue in it. Well, above is my opinion as a player who mainly plays sub-3.5* maps, so perhaps you could consider it.

Good day to you and good luck with this set!

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-07-28T10:59:43+00:00

Vyvaeth wrote:
[ Mir's Hard]
There is no sound here: 00:08:355 -
00:17:755 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Linearly increase the spacing?
00:21:655 - missed sound?
01:15:955 (4,5) - Counterintuitive flow, I must admit the transition isn't very pleasing. Maybe ctrl+G or red anchor?

AR, CS, and OD are perfect. Lovely.

Fixed the last thing cuz I kinda agree, a bit of a diffspike
The rest are okay since the first one would play weird if I skipped the red, the spacing already increase slightly, just not linear or visually, and I don't think mapping that sound would work cuz it's so inaudible.

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393,53,58755,2,0,B|347:45|347:45|298:52,1,93.75,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
225,82,59355,6,0,L|143:79,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
61,126,59755,1,14,0:0:0:0:
147,175,59955,2,0,L|141:271,1,75,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
130,335,60355,2,0,P|85:317|64:292,2,75,2|14|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
231,306,60955,5,4,0:0:0:0:
300,217,61155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
367,305,61355,1,14,0:0:0:0:
411,218,61555,2,0,L|488:207,1,75,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,106,61955,2,0,L|491:19,2,75,2|14|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
485,207,62555,6,0,L|494:294,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,361,62955,2,0,L|403:286,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,200,63355,2,0,L|321:287,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
223,354,63755,2,0,L|230:279,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
147,222,64155,5,6,0:0:0:0:
79,158,64355,1,2,0:0:0:0:
164,119,64555,1,14,0:0:0:0:
88,65,64755,2,0,P|36:74|7:99,1,75,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
7,205,65155,2,0,L|-2:288,2,75,2|14|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
147,222,65755,6,0,L|231:225,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,225,66155,1,14,0:0:0:0:
380,310,66355,2,0,L|305:312,1,75,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
221,310,66755,2,0,L|212:393,2,75,2|14|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,225,67355,5,6,0:0:0:0:
230,150,67555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
321,102,67755,1,14,0:0:0:0:
242,45,67955,2,0,L|163:42,1,75,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
71,103,68355,2,0,L|68:26,2,75,2|14|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
142,170,68955,6,0,L|137:288,1,112.5,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
137,282,69355,2,0,P|194:271|258:296,1,112.5,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
245,286,69755,2,0,L|238:370,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
342,328,70155,2,0,L|335:253,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,106,70555,6,0,L|426:190,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
333,95,70955,2,0,L|322:169,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
238,59,71355,2,0,L|208:127,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
154,13,71755,2,0,L|107:71,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,152,72155,5,4,0:0:0:0:
58,251,72355,1,2,0:0:0:0:
58,251,72455,1,2,0:0:0:0:
58,251,72555,2,0,L|152:255,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,337,72955,2,0,L|262:333,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
346,274,73355,5,14,0:0:0:0:
447,321,73555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
436,222,73755,2,0,L|449:138,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
407,66,74155,2,0,P|457:56|501:71,2,75,14|2|6,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
325,113,74755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
242,72,74955,2,0,L|158:64,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
77,74,75355,5,6,0:0:0:0:
126,172,75555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
23,170,75755,1,14,0:0:0:0:
72,258,75955,1,2,0:0:0:0:
182,244,76155,2,0,P|205:215|214:179,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,101,76555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
126,172,76755,1,14,0:0:0:0:
261,94,76955,6,0,P|302:105|334:139,2,75,6|2|12,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,101,77555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,180,77755,2,0,L|249:261,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,292,78155,2,0,L|340:217,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
433,302,78555,6,0,P|416:348|302:362,1,150,6|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
247,307,79155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
244,214,79355,2,0,L|168:216,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,305,79755,2,0,L|164:307,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,225,80155,6,0,P|17:260|10:332,1,150,4|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
79,384,80755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
162,306,80955,2,0,L|176:224,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
242,126,81355,2,0,L|256:208,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,298,81755,6,0,L|404:288,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
463,196,82155,2,0,L|367:186,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
254,199,82555,2,0,P|210:235|194:273,2,75,6|2|14,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
317,122,83155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
263,43,83355,6,0,L|171:46,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
86,71,83755,2,0,P|65:127|91:190,1,112.5,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
79,175,84155,2,0,P|100:231|74:294,1,112.5,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
85,279,84555,5,14,0:0:0:0:
256,192,84655,12,2,86155,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86555,5,4,0:0:0:0:

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-07-28T11:16:19+00:00

Vyvaeth wrote:
Okay, time to mod this. However...
I noticed that you are a well known mapper with countless GDs ranked. Your experience in mapping overshadows mine to oblivion. Which is a bit troublesome, because I am now much less confident when modding this. Nonetheless, I'll try to point out some of the concerns I had when playing the three first difficulties as a player.

[ Easy]
I had no problems when playing this, with all mods. However,
I think the HP is underwhelming. Consider increasing it to 3 or 4. done
The OD shouldn't be higher than the AR, because of potential notelocking (especially with DTHR). I guess so
00:46:555 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This part... is really confusing. I always either get 100s and 50s, or miss because I click too early. It's because there's no (clear)
distinction between the 1/1 notes and 2/1 notes. You can either: 1. increase the spacing to declare a change in rhythm signature, 2. Stack the notes on each other to achieve the same effect. (Imo, the latter works better, because the song is in a stagnation when it comes to intensity, and it contrasts well with the drop/kiai). you're right, they're pretty weird to read. Rearranged

Very fun.
[ Normal]
This is fine. Just some issues:
Decrease the OD.. in comparison to other maps of the same SR, it's too high. done
00:25:755 (4,5) - It would be wise to increase the spacing. Less confusing. Ears get used to hearing 1/2 beats from the sliders before, so the 1/1 notes should be declared properly though spacing (Either increase or stack). When playing the map, I confused them for 1/2 beats and missed. rearrnaged
01:03:755 (2,2) - Would it be possible to stack these (move 01:03:755 (2) - to 01:05:355 (2) - )? I don't know if it's viable. If you consider my advice though, you'd need to fix the notes before 01:03:755 (2) -. gonna keep the way it is, gotta keep ds consistency lol
Side note about the spread; I think the normal difficulty is just a tad bit harder than the easy difficulty... Maybe make it a 2* instead? It's not even about the SR, anybody who can FC the first difficulty can do the second one with just some more tries. I think you should try to make it a bit harder. The normal was harder before i nerfed it uwu

I'm sorry Mr. Ongaku, I can't mod the difficulties above. I'm not confident enough in my modding abilities to do so, I'm sure you'll find it uninsightful. Especially since I've never passed a 4* before.. Maybe if you still insist though, I could do it, I really don't mind. It's a win-win situation, since I gain experience, and you get mods. u_u don't worry, as long as you tried anything is accepted.

Also, I'd like to apologize if this mod didn't help much... the map has gone through 4 pages of modding so it's hard for some random no-name like me to find any issue in it. Well, above is my opinion as a player who mainly plays sub-3.5* maps, so perhaps you could consider it. really, doesn't matter how long it is, im fine as long as you tried.

Good day to you and good luck with this set! thanks!

Soulblaster

Soulblaster 2017-07-28T14:57:20+00:00

[

Normal]

I had no problems when playing. Hower,

Consider increasing CS from 2.5 to 3 as it is more comfortable and would add more difficulty.
I believe this map need more HP from 3,5 to 4
01:10.555 - 01:11.755 If possible consider replacing the 4 circles by sliders from 01: 10.555 to 01: 11.755.

In my opinion i think this map looks like a easy and needs more difficulty from 1.78 to 2.0+.

Good work! OD and AR looks great!

Regards.
I'm noob in modding, but I want to help you even if I'm a noob.

I hope i help you

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

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Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2017-07-28T22:40:52+00:00

o.o

BNs where

Mir

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Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-07-28T22:41:54+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
o.o

BNs where

He made the mistake of putting two on his set. :3c

vekt0r

175 posts

Joined May 2016

vekt0r 2017-07-30T02:57:34+00:00

returning m4m, sorry for delay

Sore wa:
00:13:955 (7,8) - why tiny spacing? imo 8 is stronger
00:16:355 (2) - i see what you’re doing with the wide angle, but imo large spacing/sharp angle should work better here; maybe change previous 2 to wide angle
00:31:755 (3,4) - maybe you can do something with sudden kick on 4, maybe backwards flow from 3 or something, idk just an idea
00:42:955 (3,1) - i think these should be emphasized instead of the 4
00:46:155 (1,2,3) - i get wanting to separate the 2,3 from the 1 but the spacing’s so small
01:00:155 (5,6,1) - this triple feels weird because there doesn’t seem to be much significant here, and this seems more like a ‘break’ in the music
01:00:955 (4) - nc for downbeat and it’s part of the next vocal phrase; you might also want to make this part of the next pattern instead
01:07:355 (1,2,3,4) - feels unintense bc sliderheads too close together and flow creates a “going slower than sv” effect which makes it less intense (basically same effect as 01:00:355 (1,2,3,4) - but i don’t think it fits here)
01:15:355 (1) - also maybe more emphasis on this
following patterns like 01:17:755 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:19:155 (1,2,3,4,5) - that have the player jump every slider, i think 01:22:155 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - isn’t intense enough and doesn’t play as well as the others

MrSergio’s Insane:
00:35:555 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - i think the intensity on these triples is actually descending
01:03:755 (1) - this is kind of important vocally but i don’t think it’s as important as 01:02:555 (1) - or 01:04:155 (3) -, and it’s being emphasized much more with spacing and flow
01:07:155 (9,1) - feels pretty massive compared to previous kiai jumps, also in corresponding 01:00:755 (8,1) - you just stacked
01:11:755 (7) - maybe increase the spacing of this more compared to the rest of pattern
01:15:355 (1) - maybe more emphasis on this idk
01:21:755 (4) - nc for downbeat? also new vocal phrase

really like kiais on both diffs, good luck!

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-08-02T10:10:36+00:00

vekt0r wrote:
returning m4m, sorry for delay

Sore wa:
00:13:955 (7,8) - why tiny spacing? imo 8 is stronger ill just ctrl+g it, just so 00:14:355 (1,2,3,1) - doesnt play weird
00:16:355 (2) - i see what you’re doing with the wide angle, but imo large spacing/sharp angle should work better here; maybe change previous 2 to wide angle I prefer to keep the wide angle.
00:31:755 (3,4) - maybe you can do something with sudden kick on 4, maybe backwards flow from 3 or something, idk just an idea if there were a bit more vocals in that part, yea I'd change it up a bit, but in this case, it'll stay as it is.
00:42:955 (3,1) - i think these should be emphasized instead of the 4 Just nc'd them
00:46:155 (1,2,3) - i get wanting to separate the 2,3 from the 1 but the spacing’s so small plays just fine
01:00:155 (5,6,1) - this triple feels weird because there doesn’t seem to be much significant here, and this seems more like a ‘break’ in the music Yea, I get what you mean, but I mapped it so there wouldn't be a "break," hence all the 1/4 sliders. lol
01:00:955 (4) - nc for downbeat and it’s part of the next vocal phrase; you might also want to make this part of the next pattern instead It was NC'd, but i decided to change it since vocals didnt have an impact until 01:01:155 (1) - . I was debating it and decided on this decision.
01:07:355 (1,2,3,4) - feels unintense bc sliderheads too close together and flow creates a “going slower than sv” effect which makes it less intense (basically same effect as 01:00:355 (1,2,3,4) - but i don’t think it fits here) They're intentional, before the DS was a bit bigger, but I decided to change them.
01:15:355 (1) - also maybe more emphasis on this cant find a way without breaking my entire aesthetic on that section xd
following patterns like 01:17:755 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:19:155 (1,2,3,4,5) - that have the player jump every slider, i think 01:22:155 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - isn’t intense enough and doesn’t play as well as the others well, they're rhythmically different, so of course they're gonna feel different.

really like kiais on both diffs, good luck!

thanks for the mod!

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-08-03T07:26:32+00:00

vekt0r wrote:
MrSergio’s Insane:
00:35:555 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - i think the intensity on these triples is actually descending that's because you played the other diff first lol.
I feel they are the opposite and overall it would ruin my entire pattern to change such an aspect right now
01:03:755 (1) - this is kind of important vocally but i don’t think it’s as important as 01:02:555 (1) - or 01:04:155 (3) -, and it’s being emphasized much more with spacing and flow it's important... so what should I do? x)
Let's say I noticed something strange myself and converted (2) into a circle only, but be more clear next time lol
01:07:155 (9,1) - feels pretty massive compared to previous kiai jumps, also in corresponding 01:00:755 (8,1) - you just stacked
it feels normal for such a diff tbh, the BPM is not that fast either. The pattern choice was due to the transition I was attempting over instruments rather than vocals in the second part of kiai
01:11:755 (7) - maybe increase the spacing of this more compared to the rest of pattern can ensure it is already really hard like this. Adding more spacing would really make it too intense for my tastes
01:15:355 (1) - maybe more emphasis on this idk the change in direction seems good enough for this...
01:21:755 (4) - nc for downbeat? also new vocal phrase why not

really like kiais on both diffs, good luck!

Thanks for the mod !
https://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/3Oc548EV.osu

Zexous

713 posts

Joined July 2012

Zexous 2017-08-03T09:38:06+00:00

"MR. ONGAKU" KID'S ACCOUNT IS GONE
IT'S ONLY BEEN A WEEK
HE'S FUCKING DEAD

Weedy

773 posts

Joined January 2014

Weedy 2017-08-08T04:23:49+00:00

SORE SORE SORE SORE
(gonna try a new format)

suggestion
you should probably do this
unrankable

Easy
you should get your ds act together lol

00:09:755 (1,2) - i thought you weren't supposed to use stacks in an easy :/ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790369%20do%20something%20like%20this%20instead%20(don't%20mind%20the%20unkemptness%20i%20did%20this%20in%20like%2010%20seconds)
00:12:955 (1,2) - Same Lol https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790373
00:19:355 (1) - it'd be cool if the slider "changed lanes" every beat (up down up down)
00:25:755 (3) - this feels a little out of place, how about an angled slider to fit with 00:24:955 (2) - this more http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790560
00:30:555 (1) - move 1px up lol blanket
00:31:355 (2,3) - i think circle -> 1/2 slider at 00:31:755 - is easier to read
00:46:555 (1,2) - these are too closely spaced to be 2/1 compared to the rest of the song, space them out more
00:48:155 (3,4) - eyah uh this looks like a 1/2 spacing from slider end to circle, fix the spacing for entire section thanks
just fix your ds mmkay
00:55:755 - add a circle on top of 00:55:755 - to ease the transition
01:00:955 (3) - imo this should be two circles because vocals are the highest pitched here
01:07:355 (3) - ye same
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - im pretty sure that kiai flashing in an easy is kinda not what you're supposed to do
01:11:355 (3) - maybe nc here for readability
01:16:155 (2) - two circles for vocals™
01:18:555 (1) - two circles because end abruptly
01:23:355 (3,4,5,6) - space them out like you did for the "sore sore sore sore" part

Normal
fix your ds
fix sv lol it's so fucking high

00:39:355 (5) - this looks really bad lol, looks like if you snapped some poor guy's donkey kong xd instead do this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790647
00:46:555 (1,2) - by snapping here you give false expectation to 00:48:155 (1,2) - this stack being 1/1, unstack like this or something https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790656
00:49:755 (1,2,3,1,2) - this is fine because the rhythm've been repeated already
00:56:955 (2,1) - rethink your blanket decisions
01:00:555 (2,1) - why not this so it doesn't look like you failed a blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790671
01:10:555 - ow my eyes lol kiai flash in a normal is kinda spooky, remove?
01:13:355 (2,1) - nice blanket
01:13:755 (1,2) - nice time distance equality lol, especially when you look at the next note too 01:15:355 (1,2) - you do it right here so do it right there
01:16:955 (1,2) - how about something like this so it looks a little cleaner https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790689
01:23:355 (1) - move this over 2 pixels for better blanket
01:23:355 (1,2) - easy used circles here be consistently harder thanks

Mir's Hard
why is your sv so much lower compared to normal lol

00:30:555 (1,2) - i want to kill this type of flow tbh
00:31:155 (3) - should be 2 circles because vocals
00:49:555 (4) - place at something like 284|196 for readability while maintaining some factor of emphasis because it looks like a 1/1 gap rn
01:08:955 (1) - this should be a 3/4 slider that starts 01:09:055 - here with a circle where the previous slider head was for better song representation
01:15:355 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you were gonna hexgrid do it right thanks

MrSergio's Insane
why don't you have the kiai flashes lol

00:36:555 (10) - nc? to denote different flow and because i hate combo above 9
00:53:755 (2,3,4) - i think this would be better if 2 was a ctrl + h of 00:52:955 (1) - and (3) (4) be lined up at the middle of the screen for cleanliness and symmetry
01:03:755 (1,2) - shouldn't this pattern occur where 01:03:355 (5,6) - this is because pitch
01:03:355 (5,6,1,2) - 01:03:355 (5,6,1,2) - nice flow lol
01:26:555 (1) - snap to dead center for spooky finish?

sore wa

00:10:755 (2) - make this a kickslider to cover the twang in the background
00:12:555 (3,4,1) - make this equal ds like 00:10:755 (2,3,4,1) -
00:58:955 - add a circle here at 314|80 to cover the voice cutoff
01:00:955 (4,1) - flip nc
01:00:955 (4,1,2,3) - flip these like this to emphasize vocals https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791330
01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this rhythm is wrong lol, it's circle - 1/4 slider - circle - 1/4 slider - 1/4 slider
01:17:755 (1,2,3,4) - im really disappointed that this isn't a huge circle motion thing https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791367
01:22:155 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - these are really underwhelming lol, shouldn't they be like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791375

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-08-08T04:25:33+00:00

Not even the right diff icons smh

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-08-08T13:17:52+00:00

[[Pika]] wrote:
SORE SORE SORE SORE
(gonna try a new format)

suggestion
you should probably do this
unrankable

Easy
you should get your ds act together lol
00:09:755 (1,2) - i thought you weren't supposed to use stacks in an easy :/https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790369%20do%20something%20like%20this%20instead%20(don't%20mind%20the%20unkemptness%20i%20did%20this%20in%20like%2010%20seconds) fine
00:12:955 (1,2) - Same Lol https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790373
00:19:355 (1) - it'd be cool if the slider "changed lanes" every beat (up down up down) I guess
00:25:755 (3) - this feels a little out of place, how about an angled slider to fit with 00:24:955 (2) - this more http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790560 I just ctrl+g'd 00:24:955 (2) -
00:30:555 (1) - move 1px up lol blanket too much work
00:31:355 (2,3) - i think circle -> 1/2 slider at 00:31:755 - is easier to read I prefer this pattern, not too hard or simple (in an easy)
00:46:555 (1,2) - these are too closely spaced to be 2/1 compared to the rest of the song, space them out more spaced em out
00:48:155 (3,4) - eyah uh this looks like a 1/2 spacing from slider end to circle, fix the spacing for entire section thanks
just fix your ds mmkay~~I'd tell you to kill yourself but~~
00:55:755 - add a circle on top of 00:55:755 - to ease the transition what happened to "no stacking"
01:00:955 (3) - imo this should be two circles because vocals are the highest pitched here tried that, too complex for an easy apparently
01:07:355 (3) - ye same
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - im pretty sure that kiai flashing in an easy is kinda not what you're supposed to do does it affect gameplay?
01:11:355 (3) - maybe nc here for readability sure
01:16:155 (2) - two circles for vocals™ same issue with being too "hard"
01:18:555 (1) - two circles because end abruptly
01:23:355 (3,4,5,6) - space them out like you did for the "sore sore sore sore" partsure

Normal
fix your ds
fix sv lol it's so fucking high
00:39:355 (5) - this looks really bad lol, looks like if you snapped some poor guy's donkey kong xd instead do this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790647 then it'd fuck up ds, which you were soooo telling me to fix.
00:46:555 (1,2) - by snapping here you give false expectation to 00:48:155 (1,2) - this stack being 1/1, unstack like this or something https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790656 fine
00:49:755 (1,2,3,1,2) - this is fine because the rhythm've been repeated already
00:56:955 (2,1) - rethink your blanket decisions ~~fuck you and your judgement~~
01:00:555 (2,1) - why not this so it doesn't look like you failed a blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790671 no, i like the current aesthetics of this
01:10:555 - ow my eyes lol kiai flash in a normal is kinda spooky, remove? no, i really want this for all of my diffs
01:13:355 (2,1) - nice blanket
01:13:755 (1,2) - nice time distance equality lol, especially when you look at the next note too 01:15:355 (1,2) - you do it right here so do it right there oops, 01:13:755 (1) - was supposed to be ctrll+g'd
01:16:955 (1,2) - how about something like this so it looks a little cleaner https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790689 as clean as it can be
01:23:355 (1) - move this over 2 pixels for better blanket no
01:23:355 (1,2) - easy used circles here be consistently harder thanks
changed easy's get fucked

sore wa
00:10:755 (2) - make this a kickslider to cover the twang in the background I prefer to keep this so it wont ruin the ds you so much love :v
00:12:555 (3,4,1) - make this equal ds like 00:10:755 (2,3,4,1) - why? they're not the same
00:58:955 - add a circle here at 314|80 to cover the voice cutoff I prefer the pause
01:00:955 (4,1) - flip nc no, the vocals start at 01:01:155 (1) - , which is why i NC'd it.
01:00:955 (4,1,2,3) - flip these like this to emphasize vocals https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791330 aight
01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this rhythm is wrong lol, it's circle - 1/4 slider - circle - 1/4 slider - 1/4 slider sounds ok to me.
01:17:755 (1,2,3,4) - im really disappointed that this isn't a huge circle motion thing https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791367 fine
01:22:155 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - these are really underwhelming lol, shouldn't they be like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791375 I prefer to keep the current patterns.

fuk u and ur ds m8

also, next time when you mod for me, don't use this format, its really annoying, I mean REALLY, annoying to reply to.

thanks btw

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2017-08-09T19:07:57+00:00

[[Pika]] wrote:
SORE SORE SORE SORE
(gonna try a new format)
ye, but try to do it on the old post next time perhaps xd
Cleaned it

MrSergio's Insane
why don't you have the kiai flashes lol
what kiai flashes
00:36:555 (10) - nc? to denote different flow and because i hate combo above 9
not a new combo tho :/
00:53:755 (2,3,4) - i think this would be better if 2 was a ctrl + h of 00:52:955 (1) - and (3) (4) be lined up at the middle of the screen for cleanliness and symmetry
I didn't put them symmetrical to the middle of the screen, but that's what I did lol. Not sure what I am missing here
01:03:755 (1,2) - shouldn't this pattern occur where 01:03:355 (5,6) - this is because pitch
you might have a different version of my map, since both those patterns use the same pattern now
01:03:355 (5,6,1,2) - 01:03:355 (5,6,1,2) - nice flow lol
<3
01:26:555 (1) - snap to dead center for spooky finish?
you'd be surprised how much I think about note placement and their influence on the map. That circle is placed like that for the amount of movement you have to make after the spinner's center. Same goes for the direction: it's not random, I wanted that exact feeling. Once you play different versions of that part you can see the difference

Thanks, but no change~

PS: Ongaku means the fact you used a lot of aesthetic code which makes it harder to read while replying to your mod. Simple is better

josh1024

232 posts

Joined October 2014

josh1024 2017-08-10T10:19:15+00:00

From M4M:

Looks good to me, gonna pick on small things.

Easy
00:56:955 (2) missed a kick sound?

Normal
00:19:355 (3) suggestion, nc here cuz white tick.

Hard
00:57:755 (1) missed some hitsounds?
01:16:555 (6,7) backwards hitsounds?
01:13:755 (3) nc here?

Insane
01:20:955 (1) extra clap?

and sorry for being a million years late.

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-08-10T12:56:38+00:00

[[Pika]] wrote:
SORE SORE SORE SORE
(gonna try a new format)

Mir's Hard
why is your sv so much lower compared to normal lol
00:30:555 (1,2) - i want to kill this type of flow tbh i dont
00:31:155 (3) - should be 2 circles because vocals
00:49:555 (4) - place at something like 284|196 for readability while maintaining some factor of emphasis because it looks like a 1/1 gap rn
01:08:955 (1) - this should be a 3/4 slider that starts 01:09:055 - here with a circle where the previous slider head was for better song representation was told it's too complicated so no change
01:15:355 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you were gonna hexgrid do it right thanks not really meant to be correct cuz the pitch decreases so does the pattern spacing

please don't use this format again it hurts my eyes and replying to it is a pain

fixed nc from josh1024 but @Ongaku can you check hs

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frogyfro

144 posts

Joined August 2015

frogyfro 2017-08-12T07:51:59+00:00

m4m from your queue, hopefully this isn't too late.

Easy

00:31:955 (3) - this is the only clickable object in the entire map that is off of a white tick. The overlap does help with readability, but for an easy difficulty i think this is way too hard to read. i'd do this just to make this easy more playable:

SPOILER

01:25:355 (1) - this is an extremely short spinner for an easy diff

Normal

throughout this map you switch between 1/1 overlaps and 1/2 overlaps. while this might be a compelling concept to explore at the insane/expert level, on a normal map patterns this difficult to read really don't have much of a place. i won't comment on all of them, but i'd personally stick to either 1/1 or 1/2 overlaps and not constantly switch it up.

00:16:155 (1,2) - reading this as a 3/2 gap is extremely difficult.

00:19:355 (3,1) - doesn't make much sense to me to use 3 to map the drum sound, but ignore the drum at 19:955. shorten the length of 00:19:555 (1) a bit and put a circle on 20:155

00:31:355 (2,3,4) - possibly you could replace 2 and 3 with a slider here just to reduce ambiguity?

00:48:155 (1,2,3,1,2) - this part is particularly bad to read because 00:48:155 (1,2) are 1/2 apart but 00:49:755 (1,2) are 1/1 apart. if you want to keep most of the other overlaps, fine, but this one is a serious problem in regards to playability.

Mir's Hard

00:16:155 (1,2,3) - the drum sound at 16:355 isn't getting enough attention in this current pattern. i'd go for this instead:

SPOILER

00:31:155 (3) - maybe replace with 2 circles to give more emphasis to the vocals here? right now i feel like putting 00:31:155 (3,4) on red ticks is unjustified, but it would make a lot more sense if you explicitly mapped to the vocals here.

01:23:755 (2,3) - i'd be fine with these, but earlier at 01:08:955 (1,2,3) you used a pattern like this to catch the vocals that were on blue ticks. it seems inconsistent to use sliders like this again when the vocals aren't on blue ticks like before

MrSergio's Insane

00:08:421 (2) - i'm pretty sure this one is 1/6 and not 1/8.

00:11:605 (2) - i'd make this a repeat slider.

00:32:155 (1) - this slider head is over silence.

Sore wa

00:11:621 (2,3,4) - this one is 1/8 and not 1/6. might want to just do 1/8 sliders here.

00:38:755 (2,3,4) - at this point the vocals drop out. i think because of that it would make more sense if these notes would break the triangle pattern instead of conforming to it.

01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part really clashes with the vocals. something like this would work much better

SPOILER

hopefully this helps! apart from normal this felt like a very solid mapset to me

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-08-13T20:49:48+00:00

Once i get back home, ill apply everything and bug lasse/pentori xd

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-08-15T06:14:15+00:00

josh1024 wrote:
From M4M:

Looks good to me, gonna pick on small things.

Easy
00:56:955 (2) missed a kick sound?

Normal
00:19:355 (3) suggestion, nc here cuz white tick.

Hard
00:57:755 (1) missed some hitsounds?
01:16:555 (6,7) backwards hitsounds?
01:13:755 (3) nc here?

Insane
01:20:955 (1) extra clap?

and sorry for being a million years late.

everything fixed

frogyfro wrote:
m4m from your queue, hopefully this isn't too late.

Easy

00:31:955 (3) - this is the only clickable object in the entire map that is off of a white tick. The overlap does help with readability, but for an easy difficulty i think this is way too hard to read. i'd do this just to make this easy more playable:
SPOILER
applied

01:25:355 (1) - this is an extremely short spinner for an easy diff yea, im just gonna revert it back to it's old one.

Normal

throughout this map you switch between 1/1 overlaps and 1/2 overlaps. while this might be a compelling concept to explore at the insane/expert level, on a normal map patterns this difficult to read really don't have much of a place. i won't comment on all of them, but i'd personally stick to either 1/1 or 1/2 overlaps and not constantly switch it up. I hoped to make it more difficult cuz its only a few SR above Easy.

00:16:155 (1,2) - reading this as a 3/2 gap is extremely difficult. shouldnt be, theres a pause there so it should give the player enough time to read it.

00:19:355 (3,1) - doesn't make much sense to me to use 3 to map the drum sound, but ignore the drum at 19:955. shorten the length of 00:19:555 (1) a bit and put a circle on 20:155 I've always considered this, but i guess ill do it now.

00:31:355 (2,3,4) - possibly you could replace 2 and 3 with a slider here just to reduce ambiguity? there were distinct notes in the song,
so it really prefer not to.

00:48:155 (1,2,3,1,2) - this part is particularly bad to read because 00:48:155 (1,2) are 1/2 apart but 00:49:755 (1,2) are 1/1 apart. if you want to keep most of the other overlaps, fine, but this one is a serious problem in regards to playability. fixed 00:49:755 (1,2) -

Sore wa

00:11:621 (2,3,4) - this one is 1/8 and not 1/6. might want to just do 1/8 sliders here. I was really against it since it'd just make it look inconsistent, but I guess ill change it.

00:38:755 (2,3,4) - at this point the vocals drop out. i think because of that it would make more sense if these notes would break the triangle pattern instead of conforming to it. I prefer this follow up from the vocals

01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part really clashes with the vocals. something like this would work much better changed

SPOILER

hopefully this helps! apart from normal this felt like a very solid mapset to me

thanks guys

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2017-08-15T07:43:55+00:00

@frogryfro

fixed first, second one would ruin the map's consistency, third one has a soft bell on it. Turn off hitsounds and listen carefully

boop

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Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-08-15T11:15:43+00:00

frogyfro wrote:
Mir's Hard

00:16:155 (1,2,3) - the drum sound at 16:355 isn't getting enough attention in this current pattern. i'd go for this instead: - mm i think it's okay for me, im trying to follow the lead while merging the drums there
SPOILER

00:31:155 (3) - maybe replace with 2 circles to give more emphasis to the vocals here? right now i feel like putting 00:31:155 (3,4) on red ticks is unjustified, but it would make a lot more sense if you explicitly mapped to the vocals here. - Uhh this is explicitly mapped to vocals I just put more emphasis on where there are more of them

01:23:755 (2,3) - i'd be fine with these, but earlier at 01:08:955 (1,2,3) you used a pattern like this to catch the vocals that were on blue ticks. it seems inconsistent to use sliders like this again when the vocals aren't on blue ticks like before

Fixed unmentioned.

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,912 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2017-08-22T16:23:43+00:00

p sure i am a t2 bn
if this normal gets bubbled in its current state i'll veto for the bold thing
lol

ding hitsounds are annoying as heck if spammed so much
[sore wa]
01:19:955 (5) - only slider that you stacked perfectly looks like mistake

[sergio]
00:08:421 (2) - 1/6 at this speed is pretty playable so uhh why
00:11:605 (2) - seems better like http://i.imgur.com/YujM08t.png

[mir]
enjoyable diff gj
00:48:955 - in this part i would map only the drums and not morph both with vocals because i think that would have a better effect and feel less odd (currently the morphed rhythms for 00:48:155 (2,3) - feel super strange)

[normal]
00:14:555 (1,1) - space further apart because spacing change is super offputting if its downwards and not a stack
00:25:755 (4,5,1) - considering people are prone to fuck up order of patterns like these even with new combos i'd suggest making the order of objects as obvious as the kiai
00:59:355 (1) - edgelord
00:52:155 (3) - 00:42:555 (2) - could be potentially offscreen but i didnt check that i just wrote it down so you have to check yourself lol
kiai should be changed with the song being as energetic just looping the exact same rhythm for half the map is super lame

[easy]
could use STR 1 because 1/2 rhythms are way less frequent
01:10:555 (1,2,1,2) - you didnt combo this in normal
00:11:355 (1,1) - aesthetics lol
00:56:155 (1) - completely hiding sliderhead under another slider makes people panick that dont know what this is and i dont think thats necessary
kiai could use more variation from just spamming 1/1

please put a bit more effort in the easy and normal and the set is cool
thanks

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-08-22T21:23:12+00:00

tried to make the slow part mentioned less mergy and more drummy

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@ongaku-chan please reapply hitsounds ;w;

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2017-08-22T22:01:03+00:00

oko, anything aside from 1/4 (like 00:16:755 (4,5,6) - 00:10:355 (4,5,6) - ) is supposed to be made easier to play thanks to slider leniency, this way the player has to stream only on the 1/4 snap.

If I change the first one you pointed out I have a reason to change the second too, but both are linked to 00:06:945 (1) - so I either change them all into strange snaps or nothing for the sake of consistency in the style ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Ongaku 2017-08-22T22:01:41+00:00

Okorin wrote:

p sure i am a t2 bn
if this normal gets bubbled in its current state i'll veto for the bold thing
lol

ding hitsounds are annoying as heck if spammed so much everyone kept saying that, so i guess ill change

[sore wa]
01:19:955 (5) - only slider that you stacked perfectly looks like mistake for the sake of consistency, changed

[normal]
00:14:555 (1,1) - space further apart because spacing change is super offputting if its downwards and not a stack changed
00:25:755 (4,5,1) - considering people are prone to fuck up order of patterns like these even with new combos i'd suggest making the order of objects as obvious as the kiai changed
00:59:355 (1) - edgelord I mean, its actually not out of the grid so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
00:52:155 (3) - 00:42:555 (2) - could be potentially offscreen but i didnt check that i just wrote it down so you have to check yourself lol fixed
kiai should be changed with the song being as energetic just looping the exact same rhythm for half the map is super lame revamped it and tried making it with a tad more variation.

[easy]
could use STR 1 because 1/2 rhythms are way less frequent applied
01:10:555 (1,2,1,2) - you didnt combo this in normal changed
00:11:355 (1,1) - aesthetics lol lol ok
00:56:155 (1) - completely hiding sliderhead under another slider makes people panick that dont know what this is and i dont think thats necessary fixed
kiai could use more variation from just spamming 1/1

please put a bit more effort in the easy and normal and the set is cool
thanks

thanks <3

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,912 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2017-08-23T21:34:49+00:00

mir fix ur slider?

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-08-23T21:36:11+00:00

Okorin wrote:
mir fix ur slider?

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Absolute Zero

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Absolute Zero 2017-08-24T21:05:26+00:00

just some other touches to update since this is actually going places
ONGAKU JUST SO YOU KNOW THESE ARE QUICK AND SMALL

[Hyperion's Rain]
I have a few things you might want to change:
00:09:355 (7,1) - Not sure if it's me, but this distance always catches me a little off-guard and I undershoot it. Consider playing around with it so it's not a hold-dash, as you have had many before (hyper or lower distance, either works).
00:09:755 (1,2) - Similarly, this distance is surprisingly long.
00:11:155 (7) - Tiny thing--consider moving to x=160 just to put more movement in between (6,7).
00:55:355 (3,4,1) - I still feel that the dash-hold here is too large--it causes an easy miss on (4) because the player's trying to get to (1). Lower distance slightly.
01:04:155 (1,2,3) - I wish this pattern wasn't a back-forth-back-forth because it becomes a bit awkward to read for a rain player as the distances increase.
01:16:555 (4,1,2) - This should be fine but consider toning the pattern down a bit with the double hyper (from antiflow).

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