DragonSlayer96 wrote:

since this group is sorta growing, why not add things like:

• *the genre of music someone likes (some people only map/mod a specific genre)
  *what they are comfortable modding (lower diffs, higher diffs, only marathons, etc)
  *timezone/when to expect them on (some people are only on say before school/work or a random hour or two)
  *what type of mods do they do (only testplays, only editor, hitsounds, timing, etc) to better help us find what type of modder we are looking for
  *having a color to the name to show how active someone is (i dont want this as a way to be used to punish each other, but to offer help if they are struggling with modding. without a way to help see who is struggling how can a more experienced modder help?)
  *a ranked/approve section for our maps so we can see what our hard work actually has accomplised (also gives incentive to map because that could be one of the things people click on and tries a beatmap or two from it)

also - since either a BN is bound to join or one of us becomes one - shouldn't there be a few rules for them too? They just really can't camp here and just bubble/rank only our maps because that in-and-of itself will create issues for mappers who aren't part of this group and they try to get their maps ranked (if enough active mappers are here, they could do that and keep the title of BN fairly easy). That will just cause people to join and - in the end - we are back to where we were before the group


there is probably more things to add/improve on that no one has thought of yet. for some of these, you might think is dumb, but i am thinking if this gets to be like 20+ people having things like i mentioned would be nice

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

since this group is sorta growing, why not add things like:

• *the genre of music someone likes (some people only map/mod a specific genre)
  *what they are comfortable modding (lower diffs, higher diffs, only marathons, etc)
  *timezone/when to expect them on (some people are only on say before school/work or a random hour or two)
  *what type of mods do they do (only testplays, only editor, hitsounds, timing, etc) to better help us find what type of modder we are looking for

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

• *having a color to the name to show how active someone is (i dont want this as a way to be used to punish each other, but to offer help if they are struggling with modding. without a way to help see who is struggling how can a more experienced modder help?)

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

• *a ranked/approve section for our maps so we can see what our hard work actually has accomplised (also gives incentive to map because that could be one of the things people click on and tries a beatmap or two from it)

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

also - since either a BN is bound to join or one of us becomes one - shouldn't there be a few rules for them too? They just really can't camp here and just bubble/rank only our maps because that in-and-of itself will create issues for mappers who aren't part of this group and they try to get their maps ranked (if enough active mappers are here, they could do that and keep the title of BN fairly easy). That will just cause people to join and - in the end - we are back to where we were before the group

JBHyperion wrote:

Just responding with my thoughts on some of DS96's points:

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

since this group is sorta growing, why not add things like:

• *the genre of music someone likes (some people only map/mod a specific genre)
  *what they are comfortable modding (lower diffs, higher diffs, only marathons, etc)
  *timezone/when to expect them on (some people are only on say before school/work or a random hour or two)
  *what type of mods do they do (only testplays, only editor, hitsounds, timing, etc) to better help us find what type of modder we are looking for

I agree with these points provided we have a diverse enough group of modders so that all areas are fairly representative. It would be unfair if, say, only one team member is active in a particular time zone, likes a particular type of map/music, or intends to give a certain type of mod, as this may create an unfairly high workload on that person. If the group can become large and diverse enough to accommodate this, it would a great resource to quickly locate the team member best suited to your request, but I'd try to avoid painting people into a certain category whilst the group is still small. - I don't want a certain modder to mod based on the genre of music they like. For example, I tend to dislike songs using japanese language, however, I still mod these songs. It seems unfair to me that you can get out of modding just because you don't like a song, so I don't want to enforce this. What they are comfortable modding, I have agreed to do if people tell me (Hence why spartancog95 is listed as only modding cup-platter on the members list), but again, if someone is able to mod something, they should mod it, regardless of whether it's a strong point, if they don't, they won't improve. As for what kinds of mods they do, I was planning to do this if, for example, a modder who only does hitsounds came on the team, I would of course mention this, but as far as I know, everyone in the group can do normal modding, and so I didn't feel adding this was necessary.

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

• *having a color to the name to show how active someone is (i dont want this as a way to be used to punish each other, but to offer help if they are struggling with modding. without a way to help see who is struggling how can a more experienced modder help?)

Regarding modding activity, there was talk about a kind of modding history and/or mod leaderboard which indicate the most active modders - I've already voiced my opinion that I don't want this to become competitive as we should be working as a team. What I think might be a good idea though, is if we had a kind of "buddy" system, where a new and experienced modder could be paired up and allowed to mod maps together - this could be done through PM, Skype, or even via a screen-sharing application (which the modding group client supports functionality for) so that things can be pointed out directly in real-time. This might be a bit of extra work for the experienced modders initially, but with more people gaining experience, it will make the workload much more even further down the line, and mod quality will only improve = more maps ranked faster - I like this idea JBH has put out, and I'll look into applying this. The colour of how active someone is, however, I don't really like, because as JBH mentioned, it could turn competitive (For example one modder making fun of another because they got a better colour, or something), so if I add a leaderboard, it will be a non-competitive one.

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

• *a ranked/approve section for our maps so we can see what our hard work actually has accomplised (also gives incentive to map because that could be one of the things people click on and tries a beatmap or two from it)

The current plan is for all newly-ranked/qualified maps that have been modded by at least one team member to be posted in the #announce channel - What JBH said.

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

also - since either a BN is bound to join or one of us becomes one - shouldn't there be a few rules for them too? They just really can't camp here and just bubble/rank only our maps because that in-and-of itself will create issues for mappers who aren't part of this group and they try to get their maps ranked (if enough active mappers are here, they could do that and keep the title of BN fairly easy). That will just cause people to join and - in the end - we are back to where we were before the group

Obviously we want to present as an inclusive group that welcomes all modders and mappers, and treats everyone fairly, regardless of whether they are a member of the group or not. However, I don't know how BNs would feel about being told "you must bubble/rank" other maps, since they will be a BN first (so must uphold those commitments) and a member of our group second. At the end of the day, they have quotas to uphold, and it wouldn't be fair to jeopardize their position as a member of the BNG just because they "can't bubble/rank maps by team members". I'd like some more opinions on what the best course of action would be here. - BN's should, and will, be treated as normal modders. Just because someone is a BN, does not mean they are some super high ranking person who can only rank and bubble maps. BN's can do normal mods too, they are just more experienced modders. For ranking/bubbling maps, of course, a BN would be allowed, and should, rank people's maps from outside the group if they are ready for rank, and this goes back to rule 4 in a more advanced way.

JBHyperion wrote:

Just responding with my thoughts on some of DS96's points:

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

since this group is sorta growing, why not add things like:

• *the genre of music someone likes (some people only map/mod a specific genre)
  *what they are comfortable modding (lower diffs, higher diffs, only marathons, etc)
  *timezone/when to expect them on (some people are only on say before school/work or a random hour or two)
  *what type of mods do they do (only testplays, only editor, hitsounds, timing, etc) to better help us find what type of modder we are looking for

I agree with these points provided we have a diverse enough group of modders so that all areas are fairly representative. It would be unfair if, say, only one team member is active in a particular time zone, likes a particular type of map/music, or intends to give a certain type of mod, as this may create an unfairly high workload on that person. If the group can become large and diverse enough to accommodate this, it would a great resource to quickly locate the team member best suited to your request, but I'd try to avoid painting people into a certain category whilst the group is still small. - I don't want a certain modder to mod based on the genre of music they like. For example, I tend to dislike songs using japanese language, however, I still mod these songs. It seems unfair to me that you can get out of modding just because you don't like a song, so I don't want to enforce this. What they are comfortable modding, I have agreed to do if people tell me (Hence why spartancog95 is listed as only modding cup-platter on the members list), but again, if someone is able to mod something, they should mod it, regardless of whether it's a strong point, if they don't, they won't improve. As for what kinds of mods they do, I was planning to do this if, for example, a modder who only does hitsounds came on the team, I would of course mention this, but as far as I know, everyone in the group can do normal modding, and so I didn't feel adding this was necessary.
For the genre, i was going more along the lines of the issue i ran across modding one of your maps a while back mb (the techno one that gave me a headache and i think i could only mod a diff or two because of it). even trying to mod some nightcore songs does the same thing to me and i cant finish the mods on them. i like both nightcore and techno as genre's but i just cant mod some of them due to issues in the song (like if its too high pitched for nightcore)

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

• *having a color to the name to show how active someone is (i dont want this as a way to be used to punish each other, but to offer help if they are struggling with modding. without a way to help see who is struggling how can a more experienced modder help?)

Regarding modding activity, there was talk about a kind of modding history and/or mod leaderboard which indicate the most active modders - I've already voiced my opinion that I don't want this to become competitive as we should be working as a team. What I think might be a good idea though, is if we had a kind of "buddy" system, where a new and experienced modder could be paired up and allowed to mod maps together - this could be done through PM, Skype, or even via a screen-sharing application (which the modding group client supports functionality for) so that things can be pointed out directly in real-time. This might be a bit of extra work for the experienced modders initially, but with more people gaining experience, it will make the workload much more even further down the line, and mod quality will only improve = more maps ranked faster - I like this idea JBH has put out, and I'll look into applying this. The colour of how active someone is, however, I don't really like, because as JBH mentioned, it could turn competitive (For example one modder making fun of another because they got a better colour, or something), so if I add a leaderboard, it will be a non-competitive one.
Well - if we can do a buddy system - maybe a color system for how well you can mod each difficulty? JBH did explain what i was trying to say with my original post. I'm just trying to help figure out a way so we can tell what areas each person can improve in. I know that there are people who cant mod salads but can mod the rest just fine, but people think they can mod salads because they are modding rains, cups and platters. yes, i want to get to the point where i can mod marathon/standalone difficulties ok, but i know i would need some assistance in learning how to understand the mappers idea in one map instead of a mapset. if people want to make fun of another because they dont have knowledge in a certain area, you already have rules set in place on how picking/bullying is dealt with. i dont care who someone is or what they do on the game, i feel that if they wont help someone learn how to improve, they arent really helping the group. yea, getting mods from them is nice (and the point of this group is to mod each others maps) but it does no good if <insert username> can only mod rains and no one is willing to help them learn how to mod the other difficulties. we wont be modding forever so we need to be able to pass our knowledge on and help out the next wave of modders out so they will be able to take our place when we leave and CtB modding/mapping. that - in essence - is what i was trying to get at by the color scheme, not trying to add any sort of competition


Hopefully, these points I've made help to answer any concerns. Any more questions, feel free to ask.

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

i dont care who someone is or what they do on the game, i feel that if they wont help someone learn how to improve, they arent really helping the group. yea, getting mods from them is nice (and the point of this group is to mod each others maps) but it does no good if <insert username> can only mod rains and no one is willing to help them learn how to mod the other difficulties. we wont be modding forever so we need to be able to pass our knowledge on and help out the next wave of modders out so they will be able to take our place when we leave and CtB modding/mapping. that - in essence - is what i was trying to get at by the color scheme, not trying to add any sort of competition

1. choosing whether to mod a rock song or a dubstep song, low or high BPM should be allowed as a preference, and people should be free to prioritize (not to the exclusion of all others) these mods
2. Only modding specific difficulties or song lengths, however (thinking long term, after people have gained experience) should be discouraged, as it doesn't bring people out of their comfort zone and they won't develop and grow as modders

JBHyperion wrote:

DragonSlayer96 wrote:

i dont care who someone is or what they do on the game, i feel that if they wont help someone learn how to improve, they arent really helping the group. yea, getting mods from them is nice (and the point of this group is to mod each others maps) but it does no good if <insert username> can only mod rains and no one is willing to help them learn how to mod the other difficulties. we wont be modding forever so we need to be able to pass our knowledge on and help out the next wave of modders out so they will be able to take our place when we leave and CtB modding/mapping. that - in essence - is what i was trying to get at by the color scheme, not trying to add any sort of competition

This struck pretty close to home with me as to the real purpose of the group. Sure, different people enjoy, prefer and are better at doing certain things more than others, and this is great - the more diverse our team can get the better, and we can all work to our strengths and further the goals of the group. However, it's important that everyone is provided with an equal a footing as possible with regards to their modding ability, with other things being left as preferences.

For example:

1. choosing whether to mod a rock song or a dubstep song, low or high BPM should be allowed as a preference, and people should be free to prioritize (not to the exclusion of all others) these mods
2. Only modding specific difficulties or song lengths, however (thinking long term, after people have gained experience) should be discouraged, as it doesn't bring people out of their comfort zone and they won't develop and grow as modders

As DS96 said, we (the founders) won't be around forever - You have too little faith in me :^), and at some point, we'll have to hand over to a new group of CtB mappers and modders. What good will any work now be if by then no-one knows how to mod Rains, or no-one has the patience to mod a 3 minute song? Game over.

JBHyperion wrote:

Two weeks to go boys and girls. Took a few days off to sort out some rl stuff but back now (and still trying to average 30 mods a month )

JBHyperion wrote:

Okay I'm currently at 32 mods for this month. A part of me wants to make it to 40, but another part of me just wants to take a little break and refresh myself for when the group starts properly.

Will probably do 8 more mods anyway but oh well

1. 1st - afk98, alienflybot and Razor Sharp, tied with 15 mods each
   
   Miscellaneous:
   
   1. A total of 102 CtB mods were posted by modding group members this month, which equates to 3.4 per day
   2. In recognition, a total of 118 kudosu were awarded to modding group members for these CtB mods
   3. The 15th and 20th of June both saw 7 mods completed in 24 hours
   4. The most modded map this month was Alestorm - You Are A Pirate, mapped by BoberOfDarkness, with 7 mods - this month's Map of the Month - The Living Tombstone - It's Been So Long, mapped by Tyrell received only 2 mods
   5. 4 modding group members each completed 3 different mods in one day - afk98, BoberOfDarkness, JBHyperion, and Razor Sharp

WildOne94 wrote:

Hoping to get beatmap of the month next month
Going to try push a certain beatmap out to look good.

Either a secret i am making or i am making or the War map with me and JHB when i get back to it

1. 1st - alienflybot with 14 mods
2. 2nd - - Magic Bomb - with 8 mods
3. 3rd - JBHyperion with 5 mods
   
   Miscellaneous:
   
   1. A total of 42 CtB mods* were posted by modding group members this month, which equates to 1.35 per day
   2. In recognition, a total of 52 kudosu were awarded to modding group members for these CtB mods
   3. The 5th and 9th of July both saw 4 mods completed in 24 hours
   4. 5 maps tied for most modded this month, recieving 2 mods each: Kalafina - believe, mapped by CLSW, Shindou Kei - Hatsudou!! Love Beam, mapped by Tyrell, Nishiura Tomohito - Omoide no Teien, mapped by JBHyperion, Twin-Tails - Twintail Dreamer!, mapped by Frobe and Hatsune Miku - Kouon Chu Oniki Test, mapped by maciek0421
   5. This month's Map of the Month - Halozy - Moonlight feels right, mapped by JBHyperion received 1 mod
   6. 4 modding group members each completed 2 different mods in one day - alienflybot, BoberOfDarkness, JBHyperion, and Razor Sharp

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

38 mods rip wow

we gotta get at least double that this month kk

also reason for me having so few was my computer was broken for half the month rip

alienflybot wrote:

btw I should have 15 mods instead of 14. You probably missed Niji or Twintail Dreamer

alienflybot wrote:

me for carry :^)

anyway im not going to mod soon so rip lolol

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

38 mods rip wow

we gotta get at least double that this month kk

alienflybot wrote:

any maps of the month?

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Due to some inconveniences irl, I can't choose a map of the month this month, apologies to all mappers in the group.

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

38 mods rip wow
we gotta get at least double that this month kk

Challenge accepted.

1. 1st - Absolute Zero with 34 mods
2. 2nd - [Sc4v4ng3r] and JBHyperion with 12 mods each
3. 3rd - BoberOfDarkness with 11 mods

1. A total of 104 CtB mods were posted by modding group members this month, which equates to 3.3 per day
2. In recognition, a total of 128 kudosu were awarded to modding group members for these CtB mods
3. The 15th of August both saw 9 mods completed in 24 hours
4. 2 maps tied for most modded this month, receiving 5 mods each: Nishiura Tomohito - Omoide no Teien, mapped by JBHyperion and Sporty-O - Let Me Hit It, mapped by koliron
5. There was no Map of the Month for July due to holidays and some real life complications
6. On the 20th of August, Absolute Zero completed 4 mods in 24 hours

JBHyperion wrote:

If anyone else has any more interesting stats, please let me know! (:
Keep up the good work in September everyone!

JBHyperion wrote:

[*]There was no Map of the Month this month due to holidays and some real life complications last month month

JBHyperion wrote:

[*]There was no Map of the Month for July due to holidays and some real life complications

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

The word month was 20% of the words in this sentence! :^)

JBHyperion wrote:

learn2mathpls (^:

1. Total number of mods done in July - 42 (+4)
2. Total number of mods done in August - 103 (+4)

JBHyperion wrote:

Did some scrutinous checks since I'm back from my work trip and updated a few things that slipped under the radar:

1. Total number of mods done in July - 42 (+4)
2. Total number of mods done in July - 103 (+4)

Updated relevant stats on their respective entries, MB, feel free to update the top post as well.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

Did some scrutinous checks since I'm back from my work trip and updated a few things that slipped under the radar:

1. Total number of mods done in July - 42 (+4)
2. Total number of mods done in July - 103 (+4)

Updated relevant stats on their respective entries, MB, feel free to update the top post as well.

So there were 143 mods in July :^)

nah i get you, kk

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

Did some scrutinous checks since I'm back from my work trip and updated a few things that slipped under the radar:

1. Total number of mods done in July - 42 (+4)
2. Total number of mods done in July - 103 (+4)

Updated relevant stats on their respective entries, MB, feel free to update the top post as well.

So there were 143 mods in July :^)

nah i get you, kk

Absolute Zero wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

So there were 143 mods in July :^)

nah i get you, kk

Wouldn't that be 145 mods? (103+42)

1. 1st - Absolute Zero with 23 mods
2. 2nd - BoberOfDarkness with 22 mods
3. 3rd - koliron with 10 mods

1. A total of 96 CtB mods were posted by modding group members this month, which equates to 3.2 per day
2. In recognition, a total of 116 kudosu were awarded to modding group members for these CtB mods
3. The 15th of September saw 15 mods completed in 24 hours
4. The most modded map this month was Pile - Aishiteru Banzai! (Prepro Piano Mix), mapped by koliron with 7 mods
5. August's Map of the Month, Nishiura Tomohito - Omoide no Teien , mapped by JBHyperion received no mods, but achieved ranked status on the 17th of September
6. On the 15th of September, BoberOfDarkness completed 11 mods in 24 hours

JBHyperion wrote:

1. On the 15th of September, BoberOfDarkness completed 11 mods in 24 hours

koliron wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

1. On the 15th of September, BoberOfDarkness completed 11 mods in 24 hours

lol, this is inhumane

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

koliron wrote:

1. On the 15th of September, BoberOfDarkness completed 11 mods in 24 hours

lol, this is inhumane

wtf me

1. 1st - koliron with 22 mods
2. 2nd - JBHyperion with 20 mods
3. 3rd - - Magic Bomb - with 16 mods

1. A total of 97* CtB mods were posted by modding group members this month, which equates to 3.23 per day
2. In recognition, a total of 123 kudosu were awarded to modding group members for these CtB mods
3. The 7th, 12th, 17th and 27th of October saw 6 mods completed in 24 hours
4. The most modded maps this month were Lia - My Soul, Your Beats! (TV Size), mapped by Jusenkyo and Nishiura Tomohito - Gundorada Workshop, mapped by JBHyperion with 5 mods each
5. August's Map of the Month, BOSSFIGHT - Dr. Wily's Castle: Stage 1, mapped by WildOne94 received 6 mods, and bubbled status on the 26th of October
6. On the 27th of October, - Magic Bomb - completed 6 mods in 24 hours

JBHyperion wrote:

[*]The 27th of September saw 6 mods completed in 24 hours

[*]On the 27th of October, - Magic Bomb - completed 6 mods in 24 hours[/list]

If anyone else has any more interesting stats, please let me know! (:
Keep up the good work in November everyone!

Absolute Zero wrote:

Oops, gotta mod 40 maps this month I guess

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Time for #outmodkoliron

1. 1st - JBHyperion with 18 mods
2. 2nd - koliron with 16 mods
3. 3rd - Absolute Zero and - Magic Bomb -with 12 mods each

1. A total of 90 CtB mods were posted by modding group members this month, which equates to 3.0 per day
2. In recognition, a total of 108 kudosu were awarded to modding group members for these CtB mods
3. The 21st of November saw 7 mods completed in 24 hours
4. The most modded maps this month were joeyclassic - seal.mp4, mapped by Ascendance and Nightwish - Last Of The Wilds, mapped by BoberOfDarkness with 7 mods each
5. There was no Map of the Month for October, but September's Map of the Month, BOSSFIGHT - Dr. Wily's Castle: Stage 1, mapped by WildOne94 received 3 mods, and qualified status on the 23rd of November
6. On the 17th of November, - Magic Bomb - completed 3 mods in 24 hours

JBHyperion wrote:

Rankings:

1. 1st - JBHyperion with 18 mods
2. 2nd - koliron with 16 mods

koliron wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

Rankings:

1. 1st - JBHyperion with 18 mods
2. 2nd - koliron with 16 mods

Ouch x.x

JBHyperion wrote:

Keep up the good work in December everyone, Christmas modding cheer for all

JBHyperion wrote:

The most modded map this month was joeyclassic - seal.mp4, mapped by Ascendance with 7 mods

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

The map of the month for November 2015 is Petit Rabbit's - Daydream cafe, a map by [Sc4v4ng3r]!

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

The map of the month for November 2015 is Petit Rabbit's - Daydream cafe, a map by [Sc4v4ng3r]!

I got noticed by MB senpai hue
Oh and good job to everyone~

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

The map of the month for November 2015 is Petit Rabbit's - Daydream cafe, a map by [Sc4v4ng3r]!

I got noticed by MB senpai hue
Oh and good job to everyone~

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

The most modded map this month was joeyclassic - seal.mp4, mapped by Ascendance with 7 mods

This time I owned this again, and again magic 16, heu

so the 16 is the number of mods on that https://osu.ppy.sh/s/321999 :^)

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Only maps by members, or maps with gds by members, will be accepted as map of the month

Zak wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Only maps by members, or maps with gds by members, will be accepted as map of the month

This seems a bit unfair as it won't really give a chance for lesser known mappers who aren't a member of the group a chance at any spotlight like the modding academy did.

Zak wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Only maps by members, or maps with gds by members, will be accepted as map of the month

This seems a bit unfair as it won't really give a chance for lesser known mappers who aren't a member of the group a chance at any spotlight like the modding academy did.

JBHyperion wrote:

On an unrelated note, if anyone in the group is wishing to apply to join the BNG, applications will open at the beginning of January

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

welp, no chance, but I will try ;w;

Kurokami wrote:

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

welp, no chance, but I will try ;w;

Please, everyone has a chance. Just remain positive. /o/

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

welp, no chance, but I will try ;w;

koliron wrote:

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

welp, no chance, but I will try ;w;

^ </3

JBHyperion wrote:

Miscellaneous:

1. The most modded map this month was Petit Rabbit's - No Poi!, Guest Difficulties mapped by Kagari with 4 mods
2. November's Map of the Month, Petit Rabbit's - Daydream cafe, mapped by Sc4v4ng3r and with Guest Difficulties by Kagari received 6 mods in total

JBHyperion wrote:

1. 1st - klonoa with 12 mods
2. 2nd - koliron with 10 mods

Jusenkyo wrote:

I want to join

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

who is klonoa

Dyl-Byl wrote:

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

who is klonoa

Guy from Canada who plays/mods/maps CTB stuff. K

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

who is klonoa?

Guy from Canada who plays/mods/maps CTB stuff. K

Tbh I first time as I have see him it was the mod ranking lol

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

who is klonoa

klonoa wrote:

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

who is klonoa

whoa hello