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May'n - Chase the world [Osu|Taiko|CatchTheBeat|OsuMania]

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Topic Starter
Kayano

Spectator wrote:

congratz \o\
Also thank you spec for checking after first bubble, or I can't find taiko bg's problem. Big thanks to you!
Koiyuki
oh guys
Ace3DF
rrtyui's map is very (´ω`)
Taskmaster
Nice Mapset ~ >w<
PatZar
gratz OniJAM!
how2rankmymap?
Rumia-
rrtyui drunk :vvvvvvvvvvvvvv
gratz oni ja M
Deif
Gotta unqualify this for the following reasons:

[General]
  1. spinner-metre and spinner-background don't match well while testplaying (tried with 1024x768 and 1366x768):
[Platter]
  1. 01:00:985 (1,2) - That's one of the typical jumps we're NOT used to see here, but in the hardest diffs.
  2. 01:12:103 (5,6,7) - That 1/4 HDash can also be avoided. Invert the positions of (5) and (6) to improve the flow.
[]
ursa wanted to take a look at all the diffs to improve the spread balance and the flow, so wait for him. Good luck!
Yoshi_green
Ahhhhh I just SSH'd one difficulty out of the 15, and it just had to be [Platter]

q.q
Cherry Blossom

rrtyui's Accel

  1. 01:00:985 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2) - what is this ? this is more or less unplayable , and i guess many players will complain about this.
    There should have less distance between these objects, it's 340BPM 1/4 sliderjump...
  2. 01:21:985 (1) - this slider ends on nothing, it must end here 01:22:162
NewRulerNA
another issue here.

normal-slidertick.wav, normal-sliderslide.wav are silenced.

actually, you can find the issue in some part so at least must remove one. in addition you should replace all blank hitsounds with 0-byte.wav file.
ursa
Platter

00:05:927 (1) - , nah , using 1 repeat slider feels bad for this one , i suggest you should change it into 3/4 slider like the previous one (00:03:103 (1) - ) to make it fit with the song
01:00:985 (1,2) - a suggestion timeline for this one https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1988007
01:12:103 (5,6,7) - an alternative suggestion if you want to keep the hyperdash http:osu.ppy.sh/ss/1987959

Rain
00:52:162 (3) - this beat can be moved to x = 416 in purpose to reduce high pressure jump.
00:53:574 (6) - same as & ( x = 416 too)
01:00:280 (1) - missing hyperdash jump ? i think it would be better if you ctrl+g this one or move it to x = 256 without Ctrl+g the repeated slider

that's all :)
Topic Starter
Kayano
Try to fix the skin problem (I copied the skin from one of my other ranked maps: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/54824 and don't expect misplace. maybe it is because the skin system's change. I'm asking someone else for help)
Will remove normal-slidertick.wav
To the ctb issues, let's wait for kk to deal with that.
Kin
[rrtyui's Accel]

- 00:31:162 (7,1) - the DS say it the same, but actually with the SV change, it say this is x1 spacing, but it's actually a 0,75. To use the same spacing between 00:31:162 (7,1) - and 00:30:985 (6,7) - ; you need to use a 1,2~1,25 spacing between 7 and 1

- 01:00:985 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2) - Cherry Blossom said it
Kurokotei
Just one suggestion for Inner Oni...

[Inner Oni]

  1. 00:16:515 (121) - change to d? It's WAY easier and fun to play, and still fits the song
  2. 01:25:691 (687) - ^
Just wanted to point that~
Bruce
真是不好意思..还没来看呢已经rank然后unrank过了orz
Eni
AW Project <3



re-rank soon..!
Kurokami
Mods checked. I removed that 1/4 HDash completely because it is not even supposed to be there. I had a problem with this set until I realized that I have one more copy as (TV Size) and osu! can't decide which one needs to be loaded.

Changed everything on Rain although at the third suggestion I only mapped the 1st and 3rd jump into HDash to follow the drum there. I made the 2nd jump a bit easier.

Platter:
SPOILER
osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Chase the world.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 61779
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 39809,48279,50750
DistanceSpacing: 2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Chase the world
TitleUnicode:Chase the world
Artist:May'n
ArtistUnicode:May'n
Creator:OniJAM
Version:Kurokami's Platter
Source:アクセル・ワールド
Tags:opening Accel World Black Lotus Kuroyuki Hime Xinely wcx19911123 KantoKun Chloe rrtyui [_m_o_m_o_] Kurokami
BeatmapID:470750
BeatmapSetID:99579

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5.5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.5
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Black Lotus.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

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320,144,62397,38,0,B|416:96|416:96|368:32,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,64,62927,2,0,L|304:16,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,16,63280,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,80,63456,1,8,0:0:0:0:
112,80,63632,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,144,63809,6,0,B|176:192,1,180,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,224,64338,2,0,L|384:288,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,304,64691,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,288,64868,1,8,0:0:0:0:
144,240,64956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,192,65044,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,176,65221,6,0,B|256:112,1,90,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,96,65574,2,0,B|160:32,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,32,65927,2,0,B|224:32,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,96,66280,2,0,B|288:96,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,96,66632,6,0,B|160:128|160:128|160:192,2,180,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,96,67515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,96,67691,1,8,0:0:0:0:
496,96,67868,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,144,68044,6,0,B|432:192,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,224,68574,2,0,L|176:224,2,90,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,304,69103,2,0,B|208:304,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,272,69456,6,0,L|272:224,1,180,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,176,69985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,144,70162,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,112,70250,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,80,70338,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,48,70515,1,8,0:0:0:0:
112,48,70691,1,8,0:0:0:0:
368,48,70868,6,0,L|240:176,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,176,71397,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,192,71485,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,176,71574,2,0,B|112:304,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,304,72103,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,72191,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,256,72279,6,0,L|288:144,1,180,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,144,72809,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,112,72897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,144,72985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,73162,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,240,73338,1,8,0:0:0:0:
160,192,73515,1,8,0:0:0:0:
416,192,73691,6,0,B|240:144,1,180,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,112,74221,2,0,B|320:64,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,64,74574,2,0,L|64:64,2,90,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,64,75103,6,0,B|272:176,1,180,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,192,75632,2,0,L|192:240,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,256,75985,2,0,L|448:256,2,90,0|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,256,76515,6,0,B|160:192,1,90,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,176,76868,2,0,B|272:112,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,112,77221,2,0,B|176:48,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,64,77574,2,0,B|368:0,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,16,77927,6,0,B|224:128,1,180,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,144,78456,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,208,78632,2,0,L|320:208,2,90,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,208,79162,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,208,79338,6,0,B|64:144,1,90,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,128,79691,2,0,B|304:64,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,64,80044,2,0,L|80:0,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,64,80397,2,0,L|400:0,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,16,80750,5,0,0:0:0:0:
160,48,80838,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,96,80927,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,160,81015,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,224,81103,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,288,81191,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,352,81279,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,352,81368,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,352,81456,5,0,0:0:0:0:
336,320,81544,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,288,81632,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,240,81721,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,81809,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,144,81897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,112,81985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,80,82074,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,48,82162,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,64,82868,5,0,0:0:0:0:
320,64,83044,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,64,83221,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,112,83309,1,0,0:0:0:0:
32,176,83397,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,240,83485,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,240,83574,6,0,L|160:304,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,288,83927,2,0,L|368:352,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,240,84279,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,208,84368,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,160,84456,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,144,84632,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,112,84721,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,64,84809,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,32,84985,5,2,0:0:0:0:
304,48,85074,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,96,85162,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,144,85250,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,96,85338,5,2,0:0:0:0:
176,112,85427,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,160,85515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,208,85603,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,176,85691,5,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,85780,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,240,85868,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,288,85956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,240,86044,5,2,0:0:0:0:
144,256,86133,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,304,86221,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,352,86309,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,384,86397,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,384,86750,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,87103,12,0,88868,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Kayano
@Deif: I found that is problem of skin system, see the detail here: t/239679, so no skin changes, hope you can understand, I think that'll be fixed in the future.

Cherry Blossom wrote:

rrtyui's Accel

  1. 01:00:985 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2) - what is this ? this is more or less unplayable , and i guess many players will complain about this.
    There should have less distance between these objects, it's 340BPM 1/4 sliderjump... I asked several BATs and most of them said it is acceptable, also I asked many player to testplay (Also I saw the score when this map is in ranked status), this part can be passed, quite chanllenging though
  2. 01:21:985 (1) - this slider ends on nothing, it must end here 01:22:162 Nope here too, ruruchii use 1/8 kicks before here and this 1/4 is to give player a feeling of accel. If i slowed down to put a 1/2, it is unnecessary and confusing; if I don't slow, that will be so hard to play

NewRulerNA wrote:

another issue here.

normal-slidertick.wav, normal-sliderslide.wav are silenced.

actually, you can find the issue in some part so at least must remove one. in addition you should replace all blank hitsounds with 0-byte.wav file.
Yea you're right, removed normal-slidertick.wav and replace all blank hitsounds, thanks a lot.

Kin wrote:

[rrtyui's Accel]

- 00:31:162 (7,1) - the DS say it the same, but actually with the SV change, it say this is x1 spacing, but it's actually a 0,75. To use the same spacing between 00:31:162 (7,1) - and 00:30:985 (6,7) - ; you need to use a 1,2~1,25 spacing between 7 and 1 I can just say it is quite unnecessary to change because ruruchii use wonderful SV and DS change in this diff, spacing here won't affect playing since the rhythm here is clear

- 01:00:985 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2) - Cherry Blossom said it See my reply to CB
So no change to rrtyui's Accel diff

Sayaka- wrote:

Just one suggestion for Inner Oni...

[Inner Oni]

  1. 00:16:515 (121) - change to d? It's WAY easier and fun to play, and still fits the song
  2. 01:25:691 (687) - ^
Just wanted to point that~
Fixed both, thanks for advice

Updated Kurokami's change

Also momo change this http://puu.sh/bgiJG/5ef5dcb52b.png for this http://puu.sh/bgiKx/0d38530239.png in Momo's MX, waiting Rumia to check

:)
IamKwaN
Good luck to the rerank :<
Chloe
silenced brother, nice game
Musty

OniJAM wrote:

CB wrote:

rrtyui's Accel



01:00:985 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2) - what is this ? this is more or less unplayable , and i guess many players will complain about this.
There should have less distance between these objects, it's 340BPM 1/4 sliderjump... I asked several BATs and most of them said it is acceptable, also I asked many player to testplay (Also I saw the score when this map is in ranked status), this part can be passed, quite chanllenging though
The problem isnt that its not passable, the thing is that it's not even fun to play because you can easily have a random sliderbreak because it's freaking 1/8 on a 170bpm song you know. I honestly can't say THIS is challenging at all when it's pure luck. Anyways, if you honestly think that it's okay and that everyone told you that, i can't do much but i would replace it instantly ( btw it doesnt really fit the song :? )

Good luck! :D

stop complaining Chloe because you're still ranking maps with that mapping.. learn to play this game dude. no offense
Topic Starter
Kayano

Musty wrote:

The problem isnt that its not passable, the thing is that it's not even fun to play because you can easily have a random sliderbreak because it's freaking 1/8 on a 170bpm song you know. I honestly can't say THIS is challenging at all when it's pure luck. Anyways, if you honestly think that it's okay and that everyone told you that, i can't do much but i would replace it instantly ( btw it doesnt really fit the song :? )

Good luck! :D

stop complaining Chloe because you're still ranking maps with that mapping.. learn to play this game dude. no offense
I don't want to say more about this, let's wait for std QATs' decision

Reply to last page: p/3347626
Cherry Blossom
It's just fine if you play them, if you alternate your fingers to handle this pattern. But i still have doubts, as i said it is 340 BPM 1/4 sliderjumps...
ruruchi's diff plays well if you know how to read it, i don't really have problems, but i'm not based on my own opinion. I just want to be objective, because i'm pretty sure people will complain about this pattern, keep in mind this please.
Well, let's see what a QAT will say...
Good luck on reranking o/
Akiyama Mizuki
Hi, from my modding queue.
yay it has a good quality mp3 file

Muzukashii
SPOILER
00:06:809 (25,26,27,28) - k k k d or k k d d fits the vocal
00:38:750 (168) - k
00:53:927 (230) - ^ - Vocal, and rhythm.
00:59:574 (256) - ^ - Melody
01:02:397 (1,2,3) - k d k - Vocal pitch
01:03:809 (8,9,10) - ^
01:11:221 (42) - d - It fits the rhythm
01:13:691 (56,57,58) - K d k
01:15:103 (63,64,65) - k d k

Oni
SPOILER
00:15:809 (76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88) - kdkdkdkddkdkD fits the melody
00:40:868 (234) - k - vocal pitch
01:11:397 (59,60,61) - ddk - Keep consistency with later part
01:21:809 (136,137,138,139,140) - ddddd - I see no reason to put ddkkd pattern, because there's no sound.
01:24:985 (154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165) - Pretty much same as the first sentence.

Inner Oni
SPOILER
00:20:397 (158) - k
00:21:809 (169) - ^
00:38:750 (307) - ^ - Keep consistency
Topic Starter
Kayano

bbj0920 wrote:

Hi, from my modding queue.
yay it has a good quality mp3 file

Muzukashii
SPOILER
00:06:809 (25,26,27,28) - k k k d or k k d d fits the vocal I mainly followed drums in muzu
00:38:750 (168) - k 00:38:397 (167,168) - these is a group then 00:39:103 (169,170) - have higher pitch
00:53:927 (230) - ^ - Vocal, and rhythm. For vocal, 00:53:927 (230) - is lower than 00:53:574 (228) - ; For rhythm, both d and k is okay imo. kkdd plays better than kkdk in muzukashii
00:59:574 (256) - ^ - Melody This is lower than 00:58:868 (253) - , 00:59:221 (254,255,256) - create an effort of pitch goes down
01:02:397 (1,2,3) - k d k - Vocal pitch no change for better playing since here is 3/4 snap (also vocal pitch goes down here, if i choose to follow that would be kkd not kdk, but i didn't follow vocal in most case)
01:03:809 (8,9,10) - ^ same as above
01:11:221 (42) - d - It fits the rhythm kinda hard to play if i change it
01:13:691 (56,57,58) - K d k see my reply
01:15:103 (63,64,65) - k d k same as above

Oni
SPOILER
00:15:809 (76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88) - kdkdkdkddkdkD fits the melody it really plays weird, also it can't give out the downbeat and pitch changing
00:40:868 (234) - k - vocal pitch I don't want to follow vocal
01:11:397 (59,60,61) - ddk - Keep consistency with later part not bad, but you don't notice that 01:10:691 (55,56,57) - is different too. I use kkk here is to make some pattern change and also follow the melody (kdk -> about the same, kkk -> higher than previous, ddk -> highest and increasing)
01:21:809 (136,137,138,139,140) - ddddd - I see no reason to put ddkkd pattern, because there's no sound. ddkkddkk... is one of the most common stream place, which is to perform pitch goes up (kkddkkdd... -> pitch goes down) or so, what if i put 12 ddkk to perform pitch goes up then ddddd? It just like you're climbing hills then you goes back in the middle, gaining nothing but tired and confusing
01:24:985 (154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165) - Pretty much same as the first sentence. Just the same as my first reply

Inner Oni
SPOILER
00:20:397 (158) - k maybe the most reasonable mod here, mintong said this before. I put several ds before to protruding the following ks, if i put k in the middle of ds, that feeling will be break
00:21:809 (169) - ^ same as above
00:38:750 (307) - ^ - Keep consistency dd dk kk, perform pitch goes up
Sorry no change. I reply to all ur mods, seeing the detail, hope that is helpful to your future modding
TKS
should be removed video from taiko diffs because it doesnt work nicely.
Topic Starter
Kayano

TKS wrote:

should be removed video from taiko diffs because it doesnt work nicely.
not a must i think becuz players can disabled video by themselves owo
TKS

OniJAM wrote:

TKS wrote:

should be removed video from taiko diffs because it doesnt work nicely.
not a must i think becuz players can disabled video by themselves owo
we should be removed meaningless setting before qualified.
does video have a meaning for taiko?
Topic Starter
Kayano

TKS wrote:

we should be removed meaningless setting before qualified.
does video have a meaning for taiko?
well okay i'll remove the video code next upload :oops:
Chloe

Musty wrote:

stop complaining Chloe because you're still ranking maps with that mapping.. learn to play this game dude. no offense
??? who're you and what's "that mapping", i can told you this diff is very easy, i can fc it in every pc even I have afked for a long time, you're the real one should learn to play this game younger.
Cherry Blossom
Please stop it. This is not the place for.

Also, everyone knows Musty will win osu! french tournament again so he could be considered as the best french player of this year (but he is not /me runs)
rrtyui
http://puu.sh/bjQGm/fc39757dab.zip

change
■ Changed my diff name. (rrtyui's Accel => ruruchi's Accel)
■ 00:07:868 (1) - Moved up.
■ 00:15:809 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Pattern changed.
■ 00:22:868 (1) - CTRL+G
■ 00:23:221 (2) - ^
■ 00:27:809 (1) - ^
■ 00:43:603 (1) - Moved upper right.
■ 01:00:986 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Changed more smaller spacing.
■ 01:02:221 (1,2,3) - Nudged for more playable.
■ 01:14:309 (4) - Moved upper right.
■ 01:26:044 (1) - Moved left.

Thanks modders~
Skystar
rrtyui hype
IamKwaN

Amamiya Yuko wrote:

rrtyui hype

HYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPE
KSHR
No more unnecessary post / drama please.
Topic Starter
Kayano
ruruchi's Accel:
  1. 00:26:574 (5) - Add missing finish
  2. 01:26:750 (1) - Change to soft-finish
I think it will make this diff better
Updated.

Std QAT recheck plz
Guy
I was asked for mod of ruruchi's Accel to KSHR, so I'm here.
Please No kds.

Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Blue : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.

[ruruchi's Accel]
  1. 00:08:397 (1) - 00:07:868 (1,2) - ここと同じリズムなのでNew Comboは外したほうが良いと思いました。
  2. 00:12:279 (4) - missed whistle
  3. 00:13:338 (3) - ^ clap
  4. 00:15:279 (3) - このclapはミスだと思います。
  5. 00:32:397 (3) - 予測が難しい速度変化なのでNew Combo入れておいた方が良さそうです。01:20:397 (1) - ここのようにです。
  6. 01:00:986 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - まだ少し間隔が広いです。最大でスペーシング8,00x以下になるように作って個人的にはギリギリ許容範囲だと感じました。
  7. 01:15:632 (3,4) - 他の似たようなパターンに比べてspacingが広いので、01:14:221 (3,4) - ここと同じくらいになるようにしてみてはどうでしょう?
  8. 01:26:750 (1) - 画面端に寄りすぎているので、気持ち少しだけ真ん中の方に寄せて上げると良いと思います。
I'm still worried about that place 00:15:809 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
but I'm not sure that it can be ranked.
rrtyui

Guy wrote:

[ruruchi's Accel]
  1. 00:08:397 (1) - 00:07:868 (1,2) - ここと同じリズムなのでNew Comboは外したほうが良いと思いました。
  2. 00:12:279 (4) - missed whistle
  3. 00:13:338 (3) - ^ clap
  4. 00:15:279 (3) - このclapはミスだと思います。
  5. 00:32:397 (3) - 予測が難しい速度変化なのでNew Combo入れておいた方が良さそうです。01:20:397 (1) - ここのようにです。
  6. 01:00:986 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - まだ少し間隔が広いです。最大でスペーシング8,00x以下になるように作って個人的にはギリギリ許容範囲だと感じました。
  7. 01:15:632 (3,4) - 他の似たようなパターンに比べてspacingが広いので、01:14:221 (3,4) - ここと同じくらいになるようにしてみてはどうでしょう?
  8. 01:26:750 (1) - 画面端に寄りすぎているので、気持ち少しだけ真ん中の方に寄せて上げると良いと思います。この位置すごく気に入ってるので変えたくないです。
I'm still worried about that place 00:15:809 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
but I'm not sure that it can be ranked.
他は全部変えました。 :(

http://puu.sh/bmW8r/69733176d9.zip
thanks Guy~
Cherry Blossom

Guy wrote:

I'm still worried about that place 00:15:809 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
but I'm not sure that it can be ranked.
Plays well if you tap 00:15:809 (1,2,3) - (don't use your 2 fingers, only 1), and then play the 1/4 triple with your 2 fingers.
These sliders 00:16:515 (1,2,3) - could be played with 1 finger too, it is 255 BPM 1/4 sliderjump, It is still handleable, but not for average players, this is is challenging so it's fine.
Pretty sure a majority of players will not be able to read this pattern during first play. But as Miss You or other maps with "that style", you just need to play like 2-3 times, and then you will be able to handle this pattern.
So if you need opinions from BATs, i'll just say, that's fine. You may need more opinions from BATs.
Kurokami
Go go. Rank it. :3

/me runs
Guy

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Guy wrote:

I'm still worried about that place 00:15:809 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
but I'm not sure that it can be ranked.
Plays well if you tap 00:15:809 (1,2,3) - (don't use your 2 fingers, only 1), and then play the 1/4 triple with your 2 fingers.
These sliders 00:16:515 (1,2,3) - could be played with 1 finger too, it is 255 BPM 1/4 sliderjump, It is still handleable, but not for average players, this is is challenging so it's fine.
Pretty sure a majority of players will not be able to read this pattern during first play. But as Miss You or other maps with "that style", you just need to play like 2-3 times, and then you will be able to handle this pattern.
So if you need opinions from BATs, i'll just say, that's fine. You may need more opinions from BATs.
Thank you for your opinions. Yes, I needed an opinion of some player / staff members about that thing.
And I was able to just confirm it can be rankable.
Skystar
I fc'd that pattern at first try without looking at the editor, I guess it's fine to play

missed at the 1/8 things before kiai tho
Nwolf
hm a few things that I think should be reconsidered in the Inner Oni

From 00:01:691 - to 00:08:750 - Is mapped too dense, comparing to the rest of the map. It kinda has the same density as the rest even though it's much more calm. Would recommend to reconsider the 1/4 5-plets, all of them seem out of place for me. Especially 00:06:632 (39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47) -

01:02:044 (489,490,491,492,493,494) - I fail to see the purpose of using 1/6 here, it doesn't make it really harder, it's just annoying to play.

Also, in all taiko diffs: 01:12:279 - I don't get why you suddenly stopped kiai here, the intensity of the song is staying consistent actually and it just looks weird.
Topic Starter
Kayano

Nwolf wrote:

hm a few things that I think should be reconsidered in the Inner Oni

From 00:01:691 - to 00:08:750 - Is mapped too dense, comparing to the rest of the map. It kinda has the same density as the rest even though it's much more calm. Would recommend to reconsider the 1/4 5-plets, all of them seem out of place for me. Especially 00:06:632 (39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47) - “The rest” is much more difficult i think

01:02:044 (489,490,491,492,493,494) - I fail to see the purpose of using 1/6 here, it doesn't make it really harder, it's just annoying to play. For the "Accel" feeling

Also, in all taiko diffs: 01:12:279 - I don't get why you suddenly stopped kiai here, the intensity of the song is staying consistent actually and it just looks weird. I'm not so sure... I think continue or stop kiai there both reasonable, I stopped there because the part between 01:12:279 - and 01:13:691 - has quite lower pitchs, so 01:13:691 - can be kiai again. I'll call a tBAT to recheck this
Thanks for your advice ;)

And here is irclog with Charles445:
SPOILER
19:43 OniJAM: hi 445, may i ask you for a testplay after you finish modding this map? ^w^
19:44 Charles445: I can testplay now
19:44 Charles445: I'm just looking it over
19:44 OniJAM: owo
19:45 *OniJAM is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/336839 May'n - Chase the world]
19:45 OniJAM: ruruchi's Accel plz
19:45 OniJAM: thanks a lot
19:45 Charles445: ruruchi?
19:45 OniJAM: rrtyui
19:45 Charles445: :D
19:45 Charles445: wanted to make sure
19:46 Charles445: I need to disable skin
19:46 Charles445: can't play with this hitcircle, can't see number x)x
19:46 OniJAM: :<
19:48 Charles445: hmm
19:48 Charles445: has some issues in some places
19:48 OniJAM: hmm
19:49 Charles445: 00:15:809 - super confusing hard to read part
19:49 Charles445: 00:15:809 (1,2,3) - predictable that it's 1/3, but then 00:16:162 (1,2,3) - looks like 1/3 too
19:49 Charles445: 00:16:515 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 1/6 is really quite fast here lol
19:50 Charles445: basically, 255 bpm streams, really hard to read at this speed and these jumps
19:50 Charles445: 00:21:279 (5,6,1,2,3) - not fond of these stack jumps
19:50 Charles445: in general it's awkward and hard to count how many circles there are
19:50 OniJAM: owo
19:51 Charles445: 01:00:986 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3) - aaaa this would be cool
19:51 Charles445: it just has problems with breaks because it's 1/8 jumps
19:52 OniJAM: shorter distance now
19:52 Charles445: shortening repeat for each is better http://puu.sh/bnMt3/294755659c.jpg
19:52 Charles445: no like this
19:52 Charles445: the jumps are cool, it's the fact that the 1/8 is so close together on timeline
19:53 OniJAM: we tried decrease a repeat before, but it sounded weird
19:53 Charles445: hard to notice ingame I think lol
19:53 Charles445: 01:25:691 (1,1) - rip hardrock
19:54 Charles445: 01:26:044 (1) - this is a bit too far away, usually sliders like this you can hold onto the start and go to the center
19:54 Charles445: but for this one it doesn't quite work
Thank you for testplay and suggestions :)
Frostmourne
Replay : http://puu.sh/bsoFi.osr
ruruchi's Accel
00:16:632 (2,3) - swap will play a lot easier
because jump from 00:16:750 (3) - to => 00:16:868 (1) - will not be too far to hit. and with this movement that feels more natural to play.
01:21:985 (1) - maybe move down a bit?

The rest I approve, really fun to play <3
KSHR
To standard BATs:
You can push this map forward as soon as rrtyui fixes or replies Charles445 and Frostmourne's suggestions. If you are worried about CtB diffs, ask a CtB BAT to mark as an apple. (Any changes has not been done in Taiko and mania difficulties.)
Xinely
Good Luck ~ i can't approve this one coz my GD lol
LightAN21
Sorry for the delay !
If the map is already in the process of getting ranked again, you can ignore this post.

I read the posts in the thread,
this map had ranked once but unranked now.
So just few suggestions in my mod.

Mod 7K for your request in my queue:
columns: |0|1|2|3|4|5|6|
Mod inside
[NM (7K)]
Well done !
[Momo's HD (7K)]
00:01:691 - 00:05:927
I think the normal notes you put within the timings express the singer's sound.
So, 00:01:867 (1867|0,2043|2,2220|4) - these do not fit the rhythm.
Singer's voice and instrument's sounds are at these timings:

Singer: 00:01:956 and 00:02:221 only
Instrument: 00:01:956 and 00:02:044 and 00:02:221

Choose one to express.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
00:07:515 (7515|2) - This note actually express a sound, but it is a long sound.
I suggest to move it up 1/4 beat to the blue line.
(both express singer's voice and other instrument's sounds)
[Momo's MX (7K)]
00:02:044 (2044|2) - I think this can't express the singer's voice and instrument's sound.
^ remove it or volume up its hitsound.

00:29:838 (29838|5,29927|3,30015|6,30103|5,30191|4,30279|3) -
I suggest col 4,6,5,4,3,4

00:34:074 (34074|1,34162|3,34250|0,34338|1,34427|2,34515|3) -
I suggest col 2,0,1,2,3,2
Hope it get ranked again.
Good Luck !
[ M o m o ]

LightAN21 wrote:

Sorry for the delay !
If the map is already in the process of getting ranked again, you can ignore this post.

I read the posts in the thread,
this map had ranked once but unranked now.
So just few suggestions in my mod.

Mod 7K for your request in my queue:
columns: |0|1|2|3|4|5|6|
Mod inside
[NM (7K)]
Well done !
[Momo's HD (7K)]
00:01:691 - 00:05:927
I think the normal notes you put within the timings express the singer's sound.
So, 00:01:867 (1867|0,2043|2,2220|4) - these do not fit the rhythm. Done~
Singer's voice and instrument's sounds are at these timings:

Singer: 00:01:956 and 00:02:221 only
Instrument: 00:01:956 and 00:02:044 and 00:02:221

Choose one to express.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
00:07:515 (7515|2) - This note actually express a sound, but it is a long sound.
I suggest to move it up 1/4 beat to the blue line. Done~ and re-fixed this part
(both express singer's voice and other instrument's sounds)
[Momo's MX (7K)]
00:02:044 (2044|2) - I think this can't express the singer's voice and instrument's sound.
^ remove it or volume up its hitsound. Nope

00:29:838 (29838|5,29927|3,30015|6,30103|5,30191|4,30279|3) -
I suggest col 4,6,5,4,3,4 Nope ;-;

00:34:074 (34074|1,34162|3,34250|0,34338|1,34427|2,34515|3) -
I suggest col 2,0,1,2,3,2 Nope >.<, sorry
Hope it get ranked again.
Good Luck !
Thanks for suggestions :D, diffs fixed~
7K HD
osu file format v13

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GridSize: 4
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TitleUnicode:Chase the world
Artist:May'n
ArtistUnicode:May'n
Creator:OniJAM
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Source:アクセル・ワールド
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Topic Starter
Kayano
Oh momo plz point out where you fixed so mania BAT can easily recheck
ursa
I'm sorry for delaying

Apple it now /o/
[ M o m o ]

OniJAM wrote:

Oh momo plz point out where you fixed so mania BAT can easily recheck
Yep, done xD, sorry D:
Frostmourne
You can call me for a rebubble or rank after ruruchi applies mods if you can't find standard BATs to approve. :oops:
Topic Starter
Kayano
Changes:
  1. ruruchi's Accel -> tyui's Accel
  2. 00:16:515 (1,2,3) - Change to a rhombus
  3. 01:21:985 (1) - move from 448:60 to 464:120

Other replies:

Charles445 wrote:

00:21:279 (5,6,1,2,3) - not fond of these stack jumps
in general it's awkward and hard to count how many circles there are
Yes it is hard to read for first try, but after 2-3 plays i think players can handle this 2-2-1 jump

Charles445 wrote:

01:25:691 (1,1) - rip hardrock
01:26:044 (1) - this is a bit too far away, usually sliders like this you can hold onto the start and go to the center
but for this one it doesn't quite work
after so many testplays i can say this part can be played using this way but much harder than usual

Thanks for suggestions and mods~
Bruce
Hi here is Mania Check
[NM]
00:55:868 (55868|6,55868|5) - 这边突然变成Double Holds不太明白是发生了什么 如果跟Vocal+Background的话这边全都需要Double

01:20:397 (80397|4,80750|2) - 这个仅仅是建议 除了这个键位之外 只要对称都可以 例如6 2 7 1这样

[Momo's HD]
This Diffculty hasn't Video
00:15:809 - My suggestion: http://puu.sh/bwYHS/704876f6cc.jpg

00:22:868 (22868|2,22956|3,23044|4,23132|3,23221|2) - Um..A bit comfortable when my testplay.Suggest you change placement.

00:48:721 (48721|3) - 00:49:074 (49074|1) - Here hasn't sound please delete

00:50:309 - 00:50:662 - 00:50:838 - Then these places All add 1 Note.

00:52:868 (52868|5,52868|3) - Very uncomfortable.
00:52:691 (52691|6) - First move this to 1 or 2
00:52:868 - Then here move to 3 and 7
00:53:044 - Finally the Note move to 6

00:53:220 (53220|0) - Um..Yours think is good but sometimes need rethink feedback.This Note move to 4

01:26:044 (86044|3,86162|4,86279|5) - Ctrl+J.Here the pitch has a reverse so need underline it.

[Momo's MX]
This Diffculty hasn't Video
OD7.Hold parts are Diffculty
00:08:132 (8132|0,8132|2,8397|4,8397|0) - Since you Double Notes These.You need Double 00:08:574 (8574|6,8662|5) - too
Or Single Note them.

00:39:191 (39191|0) - Move to 6.Though this is MX but the high bpm and Single hand stair will give players stress.

00:48:279 - ~ 00:51:103 - About these Short Holds.Have some misplace.Please listen carefully or you can Change to Note likes HD

01:15:368 (75368|5,75632|5) - Move to 3 then 01:15:721 (75721|2) - Move to 4 or 5.Please think about feedback.

01:19:338 (79338|0) - This Hold should end at here.

01:20:574 - Here you double Notes.But 01:19:515 - 01:20:221 - You not double.They are the same sounds

01:24:632 - Mistake here.You place all Triple Notes on this Song.But this heavy beat you not use 3 Notes.

OK That's all
rrtyui
IDK
[ M o m o ]

Simple_Star wrote:

Hi here is Mania Check

[Momo's HD]
This Diffculty hasn't Video
00:15:809 - My suggestion: http://puu.sh/bwYHS/704876f6cc.jpg Done

00:22:868 (22868|2,22956|3,23044|4,23132|3,23221|2) - Um..A bit comfortable when my testplay.Suggest you change placement. Fixed

00:48:721 (48721|3) - 00:49:074 (49074|1) - Here hasn't sound please delete Fixed

00:50:309 - 00:50:662 - 00:50:838 - Then these places All add 1 Note. Done

00:52:868 (52868|5,52868|3) - Very uncomfortable. Fixed
00:52:691 (52691|6) - First move this to 1 or 2
00:52:868 - Then here move to 3 and 7
00:53:044 - Finally the Note move to 6

00:53:220 (53220|0) - Um..Yours think is good but sometimes need rethink feedback.This Note move to 4 Done

01:26:044 (86044|3,86162|4,86279|5) - Ctrl+J.Here the pitch has a reverse so need underline it. Done

[Momo's MX]
This Diffculty hasn't Video
OD7.Hold parts are Diffculty
00:08:132 (8132|0,8132|2,8397|4,8397|0) - Since you Double Notes These.You need Double 00:08:574 (8574|6,8662|5) - too
Or Single Note them. Fixed this part~

00:39:191 (39191|0) - Move to 6.Though this is MX but the high bpm and Single hand stair will give players stress. Done

00:48:279 - ~ 00:51:103 - About these Short Holds.Have some misplace.Please listen carefully or you can Change to Note likes HD [/color ]

01:15:368 (75368|5,75632|5) - Move to 3 then 01:15:721 (75721|2) - Move to 4 or 5.Please think about feedback. Done

01:19:338 (79338|0) - This Hold should end at here. in where? D:

01:20:574 - Here you double Notes.But 01:19:515 - 01:20:221 - You not double.They are the same sounds Fixed this part~

01:24:632 - Mistake here.You place all Triple Notes on this Song.But this heavy beat you not use 3 Notes. Done

OK That's all
Thanks for mod S.Star ^^, all fixed~
7K HD
osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Chase the world.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 61779
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 3
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
SpecialStyle: 0
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[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:Chase the world
TitleUnicode:Chase the world
Artist:May'n
ArtistUnicode:May'n
Creator:OniJAM
Version:Momo's HD
Source:アクセル・ワールド
Tags:opening Accel World Black Lotus Kuroyuki Hime Xinely wcx19911123 KantoKun Chloe rrtyui [_m_o_m_o_] Kurokami
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Title:Chase the world
TitleUnicode:Chase the world
Artist:May'n
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Creator:OniJAM
Version:Momo's MX
Source:アクセル・ワールド
Tags:opening Accel World Black Lotus Kuroyuki Hime Xinely wcx19911123 KantoKun Chloe rrtyui [_m_o_m_o_] Kurokami
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109,192,70779,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,70868,128,0,71574:0:0:0:0:
256,192,70868,1,4,0:0:0:0:
475,192,70868,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,70956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,71044,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,71132,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,71221,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,71221,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,71221,1,8,0:0:0:0:
329,192,71309,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,71397,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,71485,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,71574,128,0,72280:0:0:0:0:
109,192,71574,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,71574,1,4,0:0:0:0:
475,192,71662,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,71750,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,71838,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,71927,1,4,0:0:0:0:
109,192,71927,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,71927,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,72015,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,72103,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,72191,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,72279,128,0,72984:0:0:0:0:
182,192,72279,1,4,0:0:0:0:
109,192,72279,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,72368,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,72456,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,72544,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,72632,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,72632,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,72632,1,8,0:0:0:0:
36,192,72809,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,72897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,72985,128,0,73691:0:0:0:0:
402,192,72985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,72985,1,4,0:0:0:0:
109,192,73074,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,73162,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,73250,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,73338,1,4,0:0:0:0:
329,192,73338,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,73338,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,73515,1,4,0:0:0:0:
36,192,73691,128,0,75103:0:0:0:0:
402,192,73691,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,73691,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,73691,1,4,1:0:0:0:
329,192,73868,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,73956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,74044,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,74044,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,74044,1,8,0:0:0:0:
182,192,74221,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,74309,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,74397,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,74397,1,4,0:0:0:0:
475,192,74485,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,74574,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,74662,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,74750,128,0,75103:0:0:0:0:
182,192,74750,1,8,0:0:0:0:
109,192,74750,1,4,0:0:0:0:
475,192,74750,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,74838,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,74927,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,75015,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,75103,128,0,76515:0:0:0:0:
182,192,75103,1,4,0:0:0:0:
109,192,75103,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,75191,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,75279,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,75368,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,75456,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,75456,1,8,0:0:0:0:
402,192,75456,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,75544,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,75632,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,75721,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,75809,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,75809,1,4,0:0:0:0:
402,192,75897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,75985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,76162,128,0,76515:0:0:0:0:
36,192,76162,1,8,0:0:0:0:
182,192,76162,1,4,0:0:0:0:
402,192,76162,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,76250,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,76338,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,76427,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,76515,128,0,77927:0:0:0:0:
182,192,76515,1,4,0:0:0:0:
36,192,76515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,76603,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,76691,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,76779,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,76868,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,76868,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,76868,1,8,0:0:0:0:
329,192,76956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,77044,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,77132,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,77221,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,77221,1,4,0:0:0:0:
182,192,77309,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,77397,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,77485,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,77574,1,8,0:0:0:0:
182,192,77574,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,77574,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,77662,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,77750,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,77838,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,77927,128,0,78632:0:0:0:0:
182,192,77927,1,4,0:0:0:0:
36,192,77927,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,78015,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,78103,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,78191,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,78279,1,4,0:0:0:0:
36,192,78279,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,78279,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,78368,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,78456,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,78544,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,78632,128,0,79338:0:0:0:0:
475,192,78632,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,78632,1,4,0:0:0:0:
109,192,78721,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,78809,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,78897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,78985,1,8,0:0:0:0:
475,192,78985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,78985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,79074,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,79162,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,79250,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,79338,128,0,80750:0:0:0:0:
109,192,79338,1,4,0:0:0:0:
475,192,79338,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,79427,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,79515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,79515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,79603,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,79691,1,4,0:0:0:0:
475,192,79691,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,79691,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,79779,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,79868,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,79956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,80044,1,4,0:0:0:0:
475,192,80044,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,80132,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,80221,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,80221,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,80309,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,80397,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,80397,1,8,0:0:0:0:
402,192,80397,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,80485,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,80574,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,80574,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,80750,128,0,82162:0:0:0:0:
329,192,80750,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,80750,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,80750,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,83221,1,8,0:0:0:0:
475,192,83221,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,83397,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,83485,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,83574,1,4,1:0:0:0:
109,192,83574,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,83574,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,83750,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,83838,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,83927,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,83927,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,83927,1,8,0:0:0:0:
109,192,84015,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,84103,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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329,192,84632,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,84632,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,84721,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,84809,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,84897,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,84985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,84985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,85103,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,85221,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,85338,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,85338,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,85427,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,85515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,85691,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,85691,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,85750,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,85809,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,85868,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,85868,1,0,0:0:0:0:
402,192,85927,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,85985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,192,86044,1,0,0:0:0:0:
329,192,86044,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,192,86103,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,86221,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,86279,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86338,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,86397,128,0,87809:0:0:0:0:
475,192,86397,128,0,87809:0:0:0:0:
402,192,86397,1,0,0:0:0:0:
109,192,86397,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86750,128,4,87809:0:0:0:0:
109,192,86750,128,4,87809:0:0:0:0:
402,192,86750,128,4,87809:0:0:0:0:
those
[Accel]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2032134

Stuff like this is fundamentally wrong. If you want the bass hitsound to play, have an object that offers this without abusing the slider slide (i.e. circle, slider start/repeat/end). https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2032144 or https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2032150 are viable alternatives. normal-sliderslide61.wav does not need to exist.

If this isn't science enough for you, then here's some science:
The bass sound is supposed to play at 40515, but the sound itself lasts 326ms or so http://puu.sh/bxFSs.png.
You switch out of the 61 sampleset at 40647, meaning you give the game 128ms to play a 326ms long file. This doesn't make any sense - you can clearly hear the abrupt cut off, disallowing the sound to fully play/echo.

I shouldn't have to list all the instances - they should all be fixed.
Topic Starter
Kayano

Simple_Star wrote:

Hi here is Mania Check
[NM]
00:55:868 (55868|6,55868|5) - 这边突然变成Double Holds不太明白是发生了什么 如果跟Vocal+Background的话这边全都需要Double

01:20:397 (80397|4,80750|2) - 这个仅仅是建议 除了这个键位之外 只要对称都可以 例如6 2 7 1这样
All fixed~ Thank you :)

those wrote:

[Accel]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2032134

Stuff like this is fundamentally wrong. If you want the bass hitsound to play, have an object that offers this without abusing the slider slide (i.e. circle, slider start/repeat/end). https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2032144 or https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2032150 are viable alternatives. normal-sliderslide61.wav does not need to exist.

If this isn't science enough for you, then here's some science:
The bass sound is supposed to play at 40515, but the sound itself lasts 326ms or so http://puu.sh/bxFSs.png.
You switch out of the 61 sampleset at 40647, meaning you give the game 128ms to play a 326ms long file. This doesn't make any sense - you can clearly hear the abrupt cut off, disallowing the sound to fully play/echo.

I shouldn't have to list all the instances - they should all be fixed.
Changed normal-sliderslide61.wav to 176ms and with some blank then goes to 200ms
So it has science now
The bass sound is supposed to play at 40515, i moved the switch out point from 40647 to 40691(slider end) so it lasts 176ms, sliderside meets it perfectly
for some 1ms issue, we know that sometimes the editor has 1ms misplace. so if the slide lasts 174/175ms, since slider side is fade-out (you can see it clearly in the picture), this won't be the abrupt cut off; if lasts 177/178ms, there is a blank part
I checked all 61 sampleset usage, besides 176ms (lasts 1/2), also there is a usage lasts 88ms (lasts 1/4)
so I made normal-sliderslide63.wav for this, this sound itself lasts 88ms and with some blank then goes to 100ms, then change 61 sampleset in this kind to 63 sampleset
science science much science
also take this opportunity, i shorten the length of some hitsounds (cut off the blank)

Uploaded (I'm not sure if it is successful due to bad network Done)
Bruce
OK After IRC with OniJAM to solve Momo's Diffs

Now Piano'd

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Zero__wind
亏了亏了

General
for metadata referrence: http://vgmdb.net/album/31932

Unrankable issues
Highly recommend to fix
Common sugestions

There is kiai inconsistency issue between the diffs which is made by the same mapper. plz check the below and make them consistent to be rankable
OniJAM: Hard 01:13:338 - plz move this inherited point to 01:12:279 - in order to end the kiai there. so that it will be consistent with Muzukashi, Oni, Inner Oni and NM diff
Salad same as above

[_m_o_m_o_]: Momo's HD 01:22:162 - plz move this inherited point to 01:20:750 - to end the kiai there, so the setting will be consistent with Momo's MX. (of course you can change Momo's MX instaed)

Xinely's Easy
00:05:927 (3) - shorten this to a 3/2 slider? fits the music better I think. as 00:05:927 - 00:06:191 - 00:06:456 - these three beats are coherent, but not 00:06:632 -
01:26:927 (1) - lower volume for this? the spinnerbonus sound at end is quite loud imo, maybe use 30% or 40% volume

wcx's Normal
OD4 for better diff spread plz
01:26:927 (1) - use a lower volume for this last spinner? the spinnerbonus sound is killing my ears. I'd recommend 30% or 40% volume to be appropriate

Hard
00:16:162 (2) - this slider should be snapped on 1/4 instead of 1/3 to fit in the music. also for 01:25:338 (2) -
00:48:279 (1) - maybe clap
01:01:074 (1,1) - I'm afraid this is not unrankable now. Spinners in Hard diffs should have a recovery time of at least one beat, but here's only 1/2 beat here. plz end the spinner 1/2 beat earlier to keep it safe
01:11:397 (1) - this slider is really hard to read in this diff, worse than all the other slider overlaps because this slider is too short and players can't properly read it as a slider instead of a circle. plz try rotating/moving 01:11:397 (1,2) - to make it able to been seen clearer by Hard-level players.
01:26:838 (1) - lower volume for this spinner? the spinnerbonus sound at end is annoyingly loud, 30% or 40% volume is enough for me

Kanto's Insane
00:16:162 (2) - this slider should be snapped on 1/4 instead of 1/3 to fit in the music. also for 01:25:338 (1,2) -
00:19:427 (7) - the bassdrum hitsound at its end really sounds out of place to me, I think you'd better remove it (maybe use a Normal sample instead)
00:44:044 (1) - this stop feels weird in my opinion, better use ordinary (or even bigger) spacing
00:54:809 (3,1) - is it possible that you make them form a blanket?
00:57:456 (3) - I'd say this rhythm is weird, nothing important is happening at 01:00:544 - . Simply use 1/2 or 1/1 rhythm would be better fitting
01:00:279 (3) - ^
01:03:015 (3,4) - maybe you could move them together to (456,48) for better flow
01:10:868 (1) - volume suddenly too low, following 01:10:162 (3,4,5,6,7) - all these loud normal beats. maybe use 50% 60% 70% volume for 01:10:868 (1,1,1) -
01:23:221 (3,4) - clap on 3's end and 4? the bassdrum sounds raelly good here

Chloe's Insane
00:16:162 (1,2) - these notes should be snapped on 1/4 instead of 1/3 to fit in the music. plz try changeing them into 1/4 slider. also for 01:19:603 (2,1) -
01:08:309 (1,1) - I recommend to remove NC from these two notes. they would still be readable as long as 01:08:044 (1,1,1) - are in the same comboset
01:19:603 (2,1) - ^
01:26:927 (1) - could you use a lower volume like 30% or 40% for the last spinner? the spinnerbonus sound is so loud at the end

tyui's Accel
00:17:221 - 01:23:221 - I think these two kiai fountans are not raelly necessary, maybe remove them? others are all good.

Call me back
Topic Starter
Kayano

Zero__wind wrote:

亏了亏了 这里面所有的standard diff都得我改好不好 嘛你是辛苦了摸摸

General
for metadata referrence: http://vgmdb.net/album/31932

Unrankable issues
Highly recommend to fix
Common sugestions

There is kiai inconsistency issue between the diffs which is made by the same mapper. plz check the below and make them consistent to be rankable
OniJAM: Hard 01:13:338 - plz move this inherited point to 01:12:279 - in order to end the kiai there. so that it will be consistent with Muzukashi, Oni, Inner Oni and NM diff
Salad same as above

[_m_o_m_o_]: Momo's HD 01:22:162 - plz move this inherited point to 01:20:750 - to end the kiai there, so the setting will be consistent with Momo's MX. (of course you can change Momo's MX instaed) //Fixed above

Xinely's Easy
00:05:927 (3) - shorten this to a 3/2 slider? fits the music better I think. as 00:05:927 - 00:06:191 - 00:06:456 - these three beats are coherent, but not 00:06:632 - //Done
01:26:927 (1) - lower volume for this? the spinnerbonus sound at end is quite loud imo, maybe use 30% or 40% volume //I prefered 20%

wcx's Normal
OD4 for better diff spread plz //Nice
01:26:927 (1) - use a lower volume for this last spinner? the spinnerbonus sound is killing my ears. I'd recommend 30% or 40% volume to be appropriate //Fixed

Hard
00:16:162 (2) - this slider should be snapped on 1/4 instead of 1/3 to fit in the music. also for 01:25:338 (2) - //sorry i have to say chinese here. 这里是一个自创节奏或者说简化节奏,由于是一个回转滑条所以只需要点击开头就行了如果改成1/4反而不一致所以没有这个必要。当然像rrt的diff那里用的是triplet就要好好的snap好。这里在qualified前后已经和很多BAT/QAT讨论过这个问题了所以safe
00:48:279 (1) - maybe clap quite unneed for me
01:01:074 (1,1) - I'm afraid this is not unrankable now. Spinners in Hard diffs should have a recovery time of at least one beat, but here's only 1/2 beat here. plz end the spinner 1/2 beat earlier to keep it safe //You're right
01:11:397 (1) - this slider is really hard to read in this diff, worse than all the other slider overlaps because this slider is too short and players can't properly read it as a slider instead of a circle. plz try rotating/moving 01:11:397 (1,2) - to make it able to been seen clearer by Hard-level players. //Fixed
01:26:838 (1) - lower volume for this spinner? the spinnerbonus sound at end is annoyingly loud, 30% or 40% volume is enough for me //Done

Kanto's Insane
00:16:162 (2) - this slider should be snapped on 1/4 instead of 1/3 to fit in the music. also for 01:25:338 (1,2) - //See above
00:19:427 (7) - the bassdrum hitsound at its end really sounds out of place to me, I think you'd better remove it (maybe use a Normal sample instead) //Done
00:44:044 (1) - this stop feels weird in my opinion, better use ordinary (or even bigger) spacing //it's okay for me so no change
00:54:809 (3,1) - is it possible that you make them form a blanket? //Sure
00:57:456 (3) - I'd say this rhythm is weird, nothing important is happening at 01:00:544 - . Simply use 1/2 or 1/1 rhythm would be better fitting //quite good i think?
01:00:279 (3) - ^ //same as above
01:03:015 (3,4) - maybe you could move them together to (456,48) for better flow //moved a little
01:10:868 (1) - volume suddenly too low, following 01:10:162 (3,4,5,6,7) - all these loud normal beats. maybe use 50% 60% 70% volume for 01:10:868 (1,1,1) - //Done
01:23:221 (3,4) - clap on 3's end and 4? the bassdrum sounds raelly good here //Good idea

Chloe's Insane
00:16:162 (1,2) - these notes should be snapped on 1/4 instead of 1/3 to fit in the music. plz try changeing them into 1/4 slider. also for 01:19:603 (2,1) - //See above
01:08:309 (1,1) - I recommend to remove NC from these two notes. they would still be readable as long as 01:08:044 (1,1,1) - are in the same comboset //Fixed
01:19:603 (2,1) - ^ //Same
01:26:927 (1) - could you use a lower volume like 30% or 40% for the last spinner? the spinnerbonus sound is so loud at the end //Done

tyui's Accel
00:17:221 - 01:23:221 - I think these two kiai fountans are not raelly necessary, maybe remove them? others are all good. //For downbeat, no change both

Call me back
Thank you~ :)
Zero__wind
about the skin for the spinners, I think they're fine now
and since there's only minor kiai setting changes in ctb and mania diffs, no change in taikos
So let's try it again
Bubbled.

to the BAT who's gonna requalify this:
plz double-check if everything around 00:15:809 - and 01:24:985 - in all the standard diffs are safe. thank you.

Good luck.
Lust
Yeah no, I am not going to allow this continue until the issue those pointed out is fixed in a way that does not cover up the issue. This is a fundamental problem in this map and should be ironed out if you wish for this mapset to be pushed forward. The slider slides should not be used this way, it will only cause confusion for the player. If you want these hitsounds to be played, have an object to accent them then.

[tyui's Accel]
tyui's Accel? Lol maybe rrtyui's Accel would be way better
  1. 00:08:750 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Guaranteed 100s or slider breaks. Players are not going to be sure how long to hold on the 1/8 for since the double slider velocity extends the length unnecessarily. I think circles would be a better replacement here
  2. 00:15:809 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - The change from 1/3 to 1/4 is really hard to follow here. I understand the spacing changes and you have a new combo to show for this, but it just doesn't really cut it well enough for me. A 1/4 repeating slider will allow for enough leniency while allowing you to keep a similar rhythm. Honestly 00:15:809 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this whole pattern is a rather large difficulty spike (if you take in to account the rest of the diff) and if I had it my way I would try and make this a lot easier. Having more sliders will allow for more leniency making it easier to play.
  3. 00:25:691 (4,5,1,2) - This is really gimmicky and not the right kind of gimmick either. The little off-stack is hard to adjust and move to when you take in to consideration this is a stream. Stacking these perfectly may help a little, but honestly I would prefer to see a simple stream pattern here. Note these sorts of patterns populate this difficulty, so I will not point out each individual one
  4. 00:27:809 (1,2,3,1) - The spacing here is a little wonky and confusing. Both slider patterns have similar spacing, albeit there is a pause between 3 and 1. Perhaps stacking 1 on 3 could alleviate this problem
  5. 00:48:279 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - I actually really enjoyed this play here, was really smooth when you take in to account what it is
  6. 00:54:544 (3,4) - This is quite a large 1/4 jump here mid-pattern and with this spacing I cannot expect anyone to read this without giving this a lot of tries. I understand this is supposed to be difficult, but I see that consistent spacing will help you accent the music better
  7. 01:00:986 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Haha this is pretty funny, I actually quite enjoyed this one. I dig it
  8. 01:14:309 (4,5) - This is hard to tell that it is 1/4 because of how great the spacing is between them, and when you take in to consideration how the other patterns were played, this seems a bit unnecessary.
  9. 01:20:750 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Same thing that I have pointed out earlier in regards to the 1/8. Would definitely benefit as circles as opposed to these weird hold-y sliders
  10. 01:26:044 (1) - Because of the really high SV it is pretty hard to not slider break here. Either reduce the slider velocity or reduce the spacing so that players can react to this easier
Don't get me wrong here, I found this diff to be quite fun and ingenious at times! This stands to show that you are not only a top player, but also a top mapper as well. I think it just needs a little more tweaking to get it closer to qualification. Moreover, I will also have a look at the rest of the standard diffs another time (I doubt I will find anything that needs too much attention) after the Accel is improved upon and the sliderslide hitsounding issue is resolved.

Please refrain from making any changes to any of the modes other than standard.
Kawawa
Hello.. mania modabout :)

NM

01:23:574 - note 1move(J -> K)
01:23:927 - note movement(K -> J)
01:24:279 - ^(J -> Space)
01:24:279 - ^(Space -> S)

momo's MX

00:01:338 - note 1add
01:01:162 - ^
01:01:338 - ^
01:01:515 - ^
01:01:691 - ^
01:01:868 - ^
01:02:044 - ^
01:02:221 - ^
01:02:309 - note move ment(F -> J)
01:20:927 - note 1add
01:21:103 - ^
01:21:279 - ^
01:21:456 - ^
01:21:632 - ^
01:21:809 - ^
01:21:985 - ^
01:22:162 - ^
01:23:485 - note 1add after, move ment(F,J)

Good luck :)
Nwolf
rip?
Kurokami
Yeah, something like that. orz
Topic Starter
Kayano
ruruchii hype

Edit on 2014-12-15 02:50 UTC

Lust wrote:

Yeah no, I am not going to allow this continue until the issue those pointed out is fixed in a way that does not cover up the issue. This is a fundamental problem in this map and should be ironed out if you wish for this mapset to be pushed forward. The slider slides should not be used this way, it will only cause confusion for the player. If you want these hitsounds to be played, have an object to accent them then.
I think sliderslide here is more like an addition to the music, it gave kit-kat sounds more natually. also it is impossible to accent all small kats like those, disabled this will cause the strange feeling, since i changed the slide wave length, i personally think this will never be a problem Fixed after irc discussion, change slide to tick, rework the hitsounds

[tyui's Accel]
tyui's Accel? Lol maybe rrtyui's Accel would be way better I guess.. actually i like rrtyui's much more than tyui's or ruruchii's, well i hope he won't hate me to destroy his originality of nicknames lolol. But i still want to keep here, also he used tyui's in his recently gds, I think we should be respect to his choice here
  1. 00:08:750 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Guaranteed 100s or slider breaks. Players are not going to be sure how long to hold on the 1/8 for since the double slider velocity extends the length unnecessarily. I think circles would be a better replacement here sv can be reduce here, but original is fine i think. in fact, many work like this got qualified already, like amamiya yuko reanimate (01:58:833 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - in lv.10.1 as an example) kick sliders didn't need much hold. in chase the world, 1/8 = 44ms, it is a really short distance, players even don't need to "hold" to get 300s. for jumps, 00:08:927 (1,1) - is quite hard, others are fine, if sv slow down to like 1.5x, we need to reduce the spacing then. so i dont really want to change here
  2. 00:15:809 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - The change from 1/3 to 1/4 is really hard to follow here. I understand the spacing changes and you have a new combo to show for this, but it just doesn't really cut it well enough for me. A 1/4 repeating slider will allow for enough leniency while allowing you to keep a similar rhythm. Honestly 00:15:809 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this whole pattern is a rather large difficulty spike (if you take in to account the rest of the diff) and if I had it my way I would try and make this a lot easier. Having more sliders will allow for more leniency making it easier to play. blame the composer. i guess many guys will hate this part, but how can we do, change the placement -> no need; change the rhythm -> unrankable or useless. I think we can treat this pattern as the super-hard parts only for this song. if players treat this diff as an "Extra" or "Lv.10.1", it is not that unacceptable
  3. 00:25:691 (4,5,1,2) - This is really gimmicky and not the right kind of gimmick either. The little off-stack is hard to adjust and move to when you take in to consideration this is a stream. Stacking these perfectly may help a little, but honestly I would prefer to see a simple stream pattern here. Note these sorts of patterns populate this difficulty, so I will not point out each individual one I personally dislike this too, also some players complained about this, so we have three choices: 1. keep; 2. stack well; 3. jumps like miss you. since ruruchii let me change this diff instead of him, i want to keep as possible to not making any unhappy things in the future. so let me know your opinion lust
  4. 00:27:809 (1,2,3,1) - The spacing here is a little wonky and confusing. Both slider patterns have similar spacing, albeit there is a pause between 3 and 1. Perhaps stacking 1 on 3 could alleviate this problem i can say this change is useless now, stacking will only cause more confusing and stricky to hit, yes stricky, both viscosity and unhappy
  5. 00:48:279 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - I actually really enjoyed this play here, was really smooth when you take in to account what it is
  6. 00:54:544 (3,4) - This is quite a large 1/4 jump here mid-pattern and with this spacing I cannot expect anyone to read this without giving this a lot of tries. I understand this is supposed to be difficult, but I see that consistent spacing will help you accent the music better 00:54:809 (4,5,6) - move to 304:40 now, it is more easy to catch. but this pattern is already to easy to read that it is start from short red line, so i think we dont need to change the triplet
  7. 01:00:986 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Haha this is pretty funny, I actually quite enjoyed this one. I dig it
  8. 01:14:309 (4,5) - This is hard to tell that it is 1/4 because of how great the spacing is between them, and when you take in to consideration how the other patterns were played, this seems a bit unnecessary. changed
  9. 01:20:750 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Same thing that I have pointed out earlier in regards to the 1/8. Would definitely benefit as circles as opposed to these weird hold-y sliders
  10. 01:26:044 (1) - Because of the really high SV it is pretty hard to not slider break here. Either reduce the slider velocity or reduce the spacing so that players can react to this easier closer now (ds 1.8x -> 1.5x) 3.2x sv can be acceptable, if must, 2.5x should be a minimum here
Don't get me wrong here, I found this diff to be quite fun and ingenious at times! This stands to show that you are not only a top player, but also a top mapper as well. I think it just needs a little more tweaking to get it closer to qualification. Moreover, I will also have a look at the rest of the standard diffs another time (I doubt I will find anything that needs too much attention) after the Accel is improved upon and the sliderslide hitsounding issue is resolved.

Please refrain from making any changes to any of the modes other than standard.
to KawaEE, sorry to reject all your suggestions, i think it is unneed to change those part, if you or someone else needed, i can write the reasons here, but sorry i'm tired now (it is already 12am)

oh one of the most important thing, momo found there is a note on Momo's HD at 00:48:985 - in column 7 under the hold, it is unrankable and got removed now, a very big thanks to your chariness to avoid a disqualify trouble, momo! And since mania set itself didn't change, I think there is no need for re-icon... yep?

thanks for those who like and support this map. due to my personally issue, this map got a very long delay on ranking progress, really sorry to all gders! I hope this time we can finally put it forward ;w;

waiting for your reply~ Lust~ :)
Kurokami
...
Nwolf
hypehype?
Ichigaki
owo)/
plsplspls
[ M o m o ]
Rip? ;-;
Topic Starter
Kayano

[ M o m o ] wrote:

Rip? ;-;
Lust said he was busy and will come later :(
Zweib
wa


wa忘了换名字了
Eni
what happened :o
Topic Starter
Kayano

Project Railgun wrote:

what happened :o
:o
fking 4mode
Kurokami
Actually the problem is with the standard now. :P
Nwolf
I could check taiko so



blame every other mode \:D/
Kurokami
Deif said to me back then to not touch the CtB so its ready. :P
smallboat
音效好多,看的好蛋疼,這種選取顏色看到快脫窗,歐尼醬知道怎改嗎?
[General]
1.還是有一些音效問題

無用的音效 (Unused hitsound):
soft-sliderslide2.wav
normal-hitclap6.wav
normal-slidertick60.wav


(Unused hitsound delay) : drum-hitclap50雖然延遲得有點大但仍然在能rankable的範圍,看要不要再改改 (前面是空了3.5ms左右 : )

下面3個也是 (不過第一個沒有用到,看要不要考慮下):
normal-hitclap6 : normal-hitfinish20 : soft-hitclap8 :
2.rrt的wide screen取消一下 (widescreen cancel)

--------------------------------------------------
[Xinely's Easy]

Nothing.

[wcx's Normal]
00:16:515 (6) - 改2個白線單點吧,我看了最近QAT的DQ issue分析 (幾乎都是噴難度節奏構成和diff spread gap大小),那兩毛兄弟與一個A開頭新上的感覺會叫說折返太多 in Normal 要減略點。(有種預感會被挑)
00:27:103 (4) - 往上一點,有點擔心
00:57:456 (2) - 同上
01:00:985 (3,4) - 三連折返這也一定要改,現在QAT無聊會挑這個來找碴,理由也跟00:16:515 (6)一樣,然後節奏建議 : (然後Tick聲音弄小一點)
01:06:279 (3) - 碰到HP bar

[Hard] (N>H diff spread gap有點危險,這難度跟Normal比較有點跳太大了,00:28:515 (1,2,3,4) - 看你這種的梗很多,減去幾個來降低點難度吧(差了1.53star有點奇葩),或找專門DQ diff的QAT來看看)

01:01:074 (1,1) - 在Hard轉盤後要空1拍,現在1/2不行

[Kanto's Insane]

Nothing.

[Chloe's Insane]

Nothing.

[tyui's Accel] (I think some part rhythm snap need to fix consistent to fit the music with every diff)

00:16:162 (1,2,3) - Compare with another duff,this 1/3 rhythm snap here.
01:25:338 (1) - Same above
Topic Starter
Kayano
Except rrt's diff, others all fixed. 00:16:162 (1,2,3) - is confirmed as 1/4 rhythm, other diff use 1/3 slider is aimed to follow the main 1/3 rhythm and didn't hurt playing so that's fine.

Hitsounds reworked, please redl

Thanks for checking! Updated.
smallboat

OniJAM wrote:

Except rrt's diff, others all fixed. 00:16:162 (1,2,3) - is confirmed as 1/4 rhythm, other diff use 1/3 slider is aimed to follow the main 1/3 rhythm and didn't hurt playing so that's fine.

Hitsounds reworked, please redl

Thanks for checking! Updated.
Comfirm this snap is correct by Charles445 IRC chat : https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3358883

And looks fine.

Taiko Icon: p/3336868
CTB Icon: p/3342968
o!m Icon: p/3342207

Rebubbled
Kurokami
Hype? *3*
Topic Starter
Kayano

smallboat wrote:

OniJAM wrote:

Except rrt's diff, others all fixed. 00:16:162 (1,2,3) - is confirmed as 1/4 rhythm, other diff use 1/3 slider is aimed to follow the main 1/3 rhythm and didn't hurt playing so that's fine.

Hitsounds reworked, please redl

Thanks for checking! Updated.
Comfirm this snap is correct by Charles445 IRC chat : https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3358883

And looks fine.

Taiko Icon: p/3336868
CTB Icon: p/3342968
o!m Icon: p/3342207

Rebubbled
Thanks!
But i guess you don't need to put those icons here? it was zero__wind bubbled before you come @_@

WARNING! star difficulty inconsistent in scoreboard page, because it automatically shows the stars in Taiko mode!
Kodora
Change CS, HP and OD on Normal to 4 please for more balanced settings.

Aargh!
Topic Starter
Kayano

Kodora wrote:

Change CS, HP and OD on Normal to 4 please for more balanced settings.

Aargh!
Increased CS&HP to 4 and OD to 4.5. Updated!
Kodora
Requalified.

Before anyone starts to complain, slider ar rrtyui's diff at 01:26:044 (1) is completely playable and already was fc'd - players DO have time to read repeats, it just requires very good reaction. 1/8 jumps are also fine.

2015 mapping hype :D
Topic Starter
Kayano

Kodora wrote:

Requalified.

Before anyone starts to complain, slider ar rrtyui's diff at 01:26:044 (1) is completely playable and already was fc'd - players DO have time to read repeats, it just requires very good reaction. 1/8 jumps are also fine.

2015 mapping hype :D
Thanks Kodora and all supports!
btw it is 2013 mapping lol
captin1
awesome, great to see this back
Akasha-
Still have someone rank this song <3 :3

Grats OniJam, Xinely, wcx19911123, Kantokun, Chloe, rrtyui, Kurokami, and [ M o m o ] ~
Myxo
So this took 6 months to requalify.. Gratz :)
Hollow Wings
really gratz, this should be qualified eventually indeed.
Xinely
Yay grats onijam \:D/
Adol Christin
1,2,3,4......lol 15 diffs?
Congratulation everyone!
Muu-chan
。◕‿◕。 yay congratulations guys! 。◕‿◕。
Musty
OD10 please :'(
Sey
Wow, finally. Glad to see it back, gratulations.
[ M o m o ]
Yeey! grats Onijam! :)
alice soft
Nice mapset.
One thing though for Kanto's Insane,
00:27:103 (1) -

> http://puu.sh/gwzGs/5c159ffae5.jpg / http://puu.sh/gwA7i/a34d8c927c.jpg
Slider end isn't visible in 1280x1024 res.

The other standard mode diffs have no issues of the sort, checked as well.

Doesn't affect gameplay but it's distracting. Only see this mistake in old maps, not in any recent ones (for diffs I play) so bringing it up.
Topic Starter
Kayano

torappu wrote:

Nice mapset.
One thing though for Kanto's Insane,
00:27:103 (1) -

> http://puu.sh/gwzGs/5c159ffae5.jpg / http://puu.sh/gwA7i/a34d8c927c.jpg
Slider end isn't visible in 1280x1024 res.

The other standard mode diffs have no issues of the sort, checked as well.

Doesn't affect gameplay but it's distracting. Only see this mistake in old maps, not in any recent ones (for diffs I play) so bringing it up.
Technically it is an issue :( But it only appears at 1280x1024 (5:4), all other standard resolutions are 4:3, they don't have problem to read.
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