After a while of thinking, I want Lilac to claim his role as well. Please do it.
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Isn't it already pretty obvious what Lilac is based on what he described earlier?
Also, orz all my reads are wrong now ._.
Should I just vote RB? I don't really want really bad things happening tonight...
Also, orz all my reads are wrong now ._.
Should I just vote RB? I don't really want really bad things happening tonight...
Go on and tell me, not obvious for me.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Isn't it already pretty obvious what Lilac is based on what he described earlier?
Also, orz all my reads are wrong now ._.
Should I just vote RB? I don't really want really bad things happening tonight...
I'm gonna wait until Lilac comes to tell us himself.
What's your guess? We'll wait a while for Lilac, seems you figured it out.
Really?
Ugh, fine. I'm an inventor, Nitori Kawashiro. Breadcrumbs were "You're gonna waste it." to RB since I gave him jailkeep, a cosplay (which is actually really bad looking and a bit too small on me.) and the 'jealousy vote' before the game started to Tanz.
You happy now? Not sure what that will achieve though. I'm lost as all hell.
Ugh, fine. I'm an inventor, Nitori Kawashiro. Breadcrumbs were "You're gonna waste it." to RB since I gave him jailkeep, a cosplay (which is actually really bad looking and a bit too small on me.) and the 'jealousy vote' before the game started to Tanz.
You happy now? Not sure what that will achieve though. I'm lost as all hell.
RB: Did you get any notification that you have been given the said role?
Also Lilac, so you gave RB a Jailkeeper ability because he was the first one to argue with you? How does that make sense?
No one else at the time was trustworthy to give it to, in my opinion. Sakura would definitely be gone at N1 and it's takes the next night to use it. Rantai was a SK in my eyes, BRBP and Royston would have more than likely wasted it with not enough experience, farto and Jinx was mafia in my eyes since that battle between you could be determined either way, I didn't trust Tanz enough with the gunsmith claim and Kanye was inactive as hell. Mimi I decided to wait on to see.
RB was the only one who had the guts to actually go against what I had to say about BRBP, Mimi and Tanz but now that I think about it his reasoning in the end wasn't actually strong enough to have warrant a townread. I guess that was a lapse in my judgement.
RB was the only one who had the guts to actually go against what I had to say about BRBP, Mimi and Tanz but now that I think about it his reasoning in the end wasn't actually strong enough to have warrant a townread. I guess that was a lapse in my judgement.
Yep, it totally was. If you have given the ability to BRBP he would be safe because scum would think he's Vanilla, while he would actually be a Jailkeeper. They most likely wouldn't kill him until the very end of the game. Yet you decided to lend the ability to a null read.
Well I'm completely sorry about that.
Want me to try and fix that with this lynch and my next night action or...do you want to continue about how bad of a decision I made and keep mulling over the past now?
Want me to try and fix that with this lynch and my next night action or...do you want to continue about how bad of a decision I made and keep mulling over the past now?
I'm actually waiting for RB right now.
Confirming this, in case anyone was wondering.fartownik wrote:
Claim: Mason
I'm Komeiji Satori, Mason along with Royston, Komeiji Koishi.
I... I don't know what to say. I really don't. Did you miss the mason claim? No? Maybe?Raging Bull wrote:
Okay so I cannot claim because of fart, then I'm told I'm scum because I didn't claim. I just don't know why the hell do you keep hopping around so much. Looks as though you are so uncertain of your voting at all times. I can't tell if you're doing this purposely just to scum paint me more and more.
Vote:fartownik
And you were voting for me before, right? If you actually think fartownik is scum, then why bother changing your vote? I mean, he pretty much just confirmed us both as town, and if you think he's scum, then naturally he's lying about me being town too, right? Unless you think he's scum and I'm town, and if he claimed masonship with me, I think I'd have something to say about that. If you were town, then what you're doing is entirely illogical.
vote:Raging Bull
= Unofficial Vote Count =
Tanzklaue (2) - BRBP, DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane (1) - Tanzklaue
Raging Bull (3) - fartownik, Lilac, Royston
fartownik (1) - Raging Bull
Or you could both be scum and this is a complete and well done charade.
Possibly Lover Role hidden in a mason claim so both of you won't die? Oh, I suppose that could be something. These are all just theories though, don't mind me.
Possibly Lover Role hidden in a mason claim so both of you won't die? Oh, I suppose that could be something. These are all just theories though, don't mind me.
Also, where's Jinxy here?
I feel sorry if he got the short end of the stick again and rolled mafia for Touhou PyP a second time.
I feel sorry if he got the short end of the stick again and rolled mafia for Touhou PyP a second time.
Nah I'm totally an unlynchable bulletproof survivor!!1!Lilac wrote:
Or you could both be scum and this is a complete and well done charade.
Hey, Royston, hold your horses. They can never be 100% sure whether our claims are true, so it's normal they have doubts.
Also JInxy probably waiting for his partners to go online :f
Also JInxy probably waiting for his partners to go online :f
Also damn. I wish I was here when RB comes online/deadline is up... I really need to sleep.
Dake was here quite a while ago.
I doubt it...speculation like this though is very bad and I would know from experience.
I doubt it...speculation like this though is very bad and I would know from experience.
Hi yes he did give me jk role.
Around 5 hours left and you got your answer farto.
The way i see it was fart removing votes for royston and then claiming mason sounds convenient. Why not just cliam mason without unvotes? If scum were to hammer then it would be too obvious
Yeah, and the day later the person who hammered claims that he's done that 'by accident', or some other shitty excuse. Better safe than sorry.
Also I'm sure I want to vote RB. Sorry for that ruckus Lilac, I just had to be sure you're not setting up RB for an easy lynch. Now I know Lilac is not lying, unless he's lying along with RB, which would mean RB is still scum.
Also, even when RB flips scum, Lilac is not confirmed Town. I'd say it's still likely that Lilac gave a role to his buddy and now he's pushing him for the lynch to stabilize his position as Town.
Also I'm sure I want to vote RB. Sorry for that ruckus Lilac, I just had to be sure you're not setting up RB for an easy lynch. Now I know Lilac is not lying, unless he's lying along with RB, which would mean RB is still scum.
Also, even when RB flips scum, Lilac is not confirmed Town. I'd say it's still likely that Lilac gave a role to his buddy and now he's pushing him for the lynch to stabilize his position as Town.
It would be obvious, however... This would end almost horribly for town.Raging Bull wrote:
The way i see it was fart removing votes for royston and then claiming mason sounds convenient. Why not just cliam mason without unvotes? If scum were to hammer then it would be too obvious
If Royston was mason and was hammered my mafia, one townie would die next night and town would have been at a really grim situation. 4:3. Ratio of town to mafia if there are 3 mafia. This would mean we would be in constant LyLo.
I am more than convinced now that RB is mafia.
I understand, farto.
However, if RB flips town, I think everyone is going to be weary about that mason claim you have with Royston, I'm putting that out there now. At least I would be.
However, if RB flips town, I think everyone is going to be weary about that mason claim you have with Royston, I'm putting that out there now. At least I would be.
With that said - I'm heading to the bed to meet Morpheus. When I'm awake, I want to see a nice hammer with a mafia result on RB.
Good night.
Good night.
Well... it's probable, but I don't think RB is Town.Lilac wrote:
I understand, farto.
However, if RB flips town, I think everyone is going to be weary about that mason claim you have with Royston, I'm putting that out there now. At least I would be.
Final words before going to sleep: if you're scum, Lilac, your scumplay is perfect.
I meant 'by mafia' by the way.Lilac wrote:
If Royston was mason and was hammered my mafia,
Let me make a haiku for this.fartownik wrote:
Final words before going to sleep: if you're scum, Lilac, your scumplay is perfect.
Words that hurt me deep.
"Lilac, your scumplay's perfect."
These wounds can not heal.
I'll be away or V/LA on 10th August coming back on 12th of the same month.
Sorry about that guys.
Sorry about that guys.
...Yeah actually, after reading these last few pages I'm thinking RB is scum after all. I'm not sure if my vote is really necessary at this point, but I'm just gonna put it there just in case.
Vote: Raging Bull
I'm going to bed too. Hopefully we'll see a good result tomorrow~
Vote: Raging Bull
I'm going to bed too. Hopefully we'll see a good result tomorrow~
For the record my last post was made 2am and went to sleep.
Voting for a Mason, really? Even if they lied, it would come out eventually because no sane scum would let a Mason team live for long due to their strength. I would be highly suspicious of fart-Royston if they were completely ignored tonight.
As of now, though, I have no reason not to believe them and thus Vote: RB . 1 and a half hours to day's end so I doubt anyone else has anything to say, anyway.
Voting for a Mason, really? Even if they lied, it would come out eventually because no sane scum would let a Mason team live for long due to their strength. I would be highly suspicious of fart-Royston if they were completely ignored tonight.
As of now, though, I have no reason not to believe them and thus Vote: RB . 1 and a half hours to day's end so I doubt anyone else has anything to say, anyway.
Now that I think of it, if RB really was the RB (oh lol how did I not notice that till now), then maybe Tanz could check Dake to see if he's really a Commuter? If there's still no result, then that would confirm him. If there's a result, it'll probably a Gun result.
day technically ended, but yea, I will do that, since it makes sense.Jinxy wrote:
Now that I think of it, if RB really was the RB (oh lol how did I not notice that till now), then maybe Tanz could check Dake to see if he's really a Commuter? If there's still no result, then that would confirm him. If there's a result, it'll probably a Gun result.
Usually the period of time after a hammer and before a mod post is "Twilight", where players can speak but the lynch is finalized, unless there's some role that can change it like Governor or something
If RB flips Roleblocker (he will flip Jailkeeper, but he had to be something else in the first place) - do it. If not - do something at random.
Hi guys~ :3
Where's pieguy ;~;
Sakura wrote:
Making pies obviously *runs*
I confess that I only recently started to pronounce the "pie" in pieguy's name like the word "pie" instead of my silly german pronounciation :cJinxy wrote:
Sakura wrote:
Making pies obviously *runs*
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sorry for late, overslept
back home now so deadlines should be normal again :3
RB (5) - Lilac, fartownik, Royston, Kitsunemimi, Jinxy
Tanzklaue (2) - BRBP, DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane (1) - Tanzklaue
fartownik (1) - RB
You're a baka, thus you must die!
i-i-eye didn't do it! Cirno doesn't know enough about life and death to comprehend what's going on here...
Tell me everything that happened after you arrived.
you're so pushy. I won't tell anything ~
aahhh..Please tell me everything that happened after you arrived.
some people told me to join them and good things would happe- AA~
before she finished, someone had grabbed her and disappeared before anyone knew who it was. It seems she was too much of an idiot to be left alive..
Raging Bull (Cirno) - Mafia Roleblocker - lynched D2
it is N2. deadline is 8/9, 9:00 GMT (16:05 from now)
all deadlines should be normal after this cause I've returned home now. if I miss it again, slap me plz
back home now so deadlines should be normal again :3
RB (5) - Lilac, fartownik, Royston, Kitsunemimi, Jinxy
Tanzklaue (2) - BRBP, DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane (1) - Tanzklaue
fartownik (1) - RB
You're a baka, thus you must die!
i-i-eye didn't do it! Cirno doesn't know enough about life and death to comprehend what's going on here...
Tell me everything that happened after you arrived.
you're so pushy. I won't tell anything ~
aahhh..Please tell me everything that happened after you arrived.
some people told me to join them and good things would happe- AA~
before she finished, someone had grabbed her and disappeared before anyone knew who it was. It seems she was too much of an idiot to be left alive..
Raging Bull (Cirno) - Mafia Roleblocker - lynched D2
it is N2. deadline is 8/9, 9:00 GMT (16:05 from now)
all deadlines should be normal after this cause I've returned home now. if I miss it again, slap me plz
@mod: slap
>:I
>:I
pieguy for the most punctual host 2013.
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oh wtf did I really set that deadline
sorry, I meant 8/10 9:00 GMT (11:34 from now). my miss again.. being tired really causes weird stuff to happen > <
sorry, I meant 8/10 9:00 GMT (11:34 from now). my miss again.. being tired really causes weird stuff to happen > <
So the night is not 24h? ;o
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a 16 hour night seems a bit short, and I prefer all deadlines to be at 2:00 my local time cause I know I'll be awake then @_@
pieguy1372 wrote:
You're a baka, thus you must die!
i-i-eye didn't do it! Cirno doesn't know enough about life and death to comprehend what's going on here...
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everyone woke up again, but they immediately noticed something was wrong. For some reason, they felt a lot less fearful than before. Then they realized why: Komeiji Satori was missing. They looked in her room and she wasn't there either. Eventually, with Sakuya's help, they found a closet that they had mysteriously walked past before. Sure enough, Satori was there, and it looked like she had been shot. they weren't sure whether to feel relief, since she could no longer read their minds, or even more fear than before.
fartownik (Komeiji Satori) - Sibling - killed N2
they decided to do a head count just to be safe and they found out another person was missing. they couldn't quite remember who she was, what she looked like, or what she said, but something still didn't seem right..
Royston (Komeiji Koishi) - Sibling - disappeared? N2
so two people died again? fufufu~ this is certainly getting interesting-
wait, so the second person is really dead?
well, we found someone that looked like here wandering around the mansion the other night, so I decided to have some fun ~ she's not dead, but good luck finding her, if she's awake by now..
It is D3. With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is 8/14, 9:00 GMT (95:53 from now)
fartownik (Komeiji Satori) - Sibling - killed N2
they decided to do a head count just to be safe and they found out another person was missing. they couldn't quite remember who she was, what she looked like, or what she said, but something still didn't seem right..
Royston (Komeiji Koishi) - Sibling - disappeared? N2
so two people died again? fufufu~ this is certainly getting interesting-
wait, so the second person is really dead?
well, we found someone that looked like here wandering around the mansion the other night, so I decided to have some fun ~ she's not dead, but good luck finding her, if she's awake by now..
It is D3. With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is 8/14, 9:00 GMT (95:53 from now)
okay, guys listen up:
we either have to do with lovers (but they would've told us that they are lovers, right...?) or double kill mafia. the term "sibling" makes me hope that it is lovers-like role. if they aren't, in fact, lovers, then we aren't just in MyLo, but already in LyLo. but I believe it is lovers, because of the kill describtion and the fact that N1 had a PGo kill instead of a second mafiakill (at least I hope that it was a PGO kill).
I also got no result on Dake, which means his claim is true (except if there are any other shenanigans with roleblocking or a hider).that means he is most likely town. that leaves us with BRBP, kitsune, lilac, and jinxy.
BRBP: please, start playing like a townie if you are one. it would really help us if you stopped being a doorknob and started cooperating with us.
Dake: I am sorry for leading charges against you, in this situation, who are your leads?
Lilac: who did you use your ability on?
my two leads here are Lilac and Jinxy. how likely are scum PGOs btw?
we either have to do with lovers (but they would've told us that they are lovers, right...?) or double kill mafia. the term "sibling" makes me hope that it is lovers-like role. if they aren't, in fact, lovers, then we aren't just in MyLo, but already in LyLo. but I believe it is lovers, because of the kill describtion and the fact that N1 had a PGo kill instead of a second mafiakill (at least I hope that it was a PGO kill).
I also got no result on Dake, which means his claim is true (except if there are any other shenanigans with roleblocking or a hider).that means he is most likely town. that leaves us with BRBP, kitsune, lilac, and jinxy.
BRBP: please, start playing like a townie if you are one. it would really help us if you stopped being a doorknob and started cooperating with us.
Dake: I am sorry for leading charges against you, in this situation, who are your leads?
Lilac: who did you use your ability on?
my two leads here are Lilac and Jinxy. how likely are scum PGOs btw?
With that, I'm believe that we're in MyLo right now, so Vote: No Lynch.Wiki wrote:
Sibling is sometimes used to refer to Lovers who are guaranteed to be of the same alignment. Lovers are to Siblings what Neighbors are to Masons.
Any more discussion today helps scum choose their target better tonight so personally I would wait till tomorrow for any Q&A.
I would view it as the opposite. ending the day early is the worst thing we can do.
it's quite clear that scum will shoot me, because all the other targets are either unkillable (kitsune, dake) or meaningless (BRBP).
there is no way that cutting the discussion short helps town. ever.
it's quite clear that scum will shoot me, because all the other targets are either unkillable (kitsune, dake) or meaningless (BRBP).
there is no way that cutting the discussion short helps town. ever.
There's a small possibility that he's a Mafia Godfather, and pieguy just made him immune to your gunsmith investigations.Tanzklaue wrote:
I also got no result on Dake, which means his claim is true (except if there are any other shenanigans with roleblocking or a hider).that means he is most likely town. that leaves us with BRBP, kitsune, lilac, and jinxy.
I'm willing to to agree with Tanz on this one that he's most likely going to be targetted for the mafia kill tonight, so I think it would be good if we engaged in a little discussion at least.
Also, I'm really thinking BRBP is scum more and more now. After reading the 5p Jester Mafia game that just finished, BRBP, as the only mafia, was given a chance to hammer and win the game, yet he passes up on it just to "confirm" himself as town, and lets the other town members vote each other off in confusion. His posts always make him look like he has absolutely no idea what he's doing (you could call it passive ignorance...?), which can result in disaster if you just let him off easy. Many of his posts from when he killed NH still look indubitably scummy, especially the points about "I'd rather let mafia kill Sakura than waste a vote on lynching her myself". It's possible that the reason why he took the shot without claiming first was so that he could make use of his (somewhat difficult to properly utilize) role as mafia dayvig before he got lynched, so mafia has one less townie to take down. He could then cover it up by saying "that was the only way to prove myself" and "hurr I was a retard so I didn't realize I should've claimed", but in the end, all he cared about was the fact that he got the kill.
He also completely ignored RB and tried to focus as much of his attention on getting Tanz lynched.
nope, there isn't. if he was something like a godfather for gunsmiths, then I would've gotten a "DakeDekaane has no guns" result.Kitsunemimi wrote:
There's a small possibility that he's a Mafia Godfather, and pieguy just made him immune to your gunsmith investigations.Tanzklaue wrote:
I also got no result on Dake, which means his claim is true (except if there are any other shenanigans with roleblocking or a hider).that means he is most likely town. that leaves us with BRBP, kitsune, lilac, and jinxy.
Policy lynch BRBP?
I'd agree with No Lynch, but only if we can't get sure scum today, not as a must and thus ending the day quickly, also we won't get something from Lilac until August 12th, so it's better if we're patient than making rushed things. We should know who targeted Lilac though, that "something" he gave to RB is a bit odd imo, but still not sure about it until know what he did last night.
Also Tanz, giving me townread doesn't make you look town for me, tho the suspicious is a less than previous day, I still have to decide between you, Lilac and possibly Jinxy for that fast NL vote.
@BRBP: did you get something this night?
I'd agree with No Lynch, but only if we can't get sure scum today, not as a must and thus ending the day quickly, also we won't get something from Lilac until August 12th, so it's better if we're patient than making rushed things. We should know who targeted Lilac though, that "something" he gave to RB is a bit odd imo, but still not sure about it until know what he did last night.
Also Tanz, giving me townread doesn't make you look town for me, tho the suspicious is a less than previous day, I still have to decide between you, Lilac and possibly Jinxy for that fast NL vote.
@BRBP: did you get something this night?
Since I'm waiting for my room to get cleaned for 15 minutes and I've got nothing else to do I should just start saying stuff.
One, I gave cop to Royston but it completely slipped from my mind that siblings are exactly like Lovers roles. It's just one bad judgment over another.
Two, I can guarantee that this will not be MyLo for a reason that will be apparent tomorrow night. I want Jinx to claim and everyone else to give their reads on each other. Tanz is looking a lot more like scum to me and I think Jinx is pulling a great string by the No Lynch. I'm expecting a Tanz and Dake scum team because of the convinience of hiding but Tanz pointing out the existence of a roleblocker from the beginning of D2 would be really bad scum play if he was scum.
I'm thinking a pair of Jinx and Dake or Dake and Tanz. Either way, I'm not satisfied with a No Lynch. If anyone has questions feel free to ask.
Vote: Dake.
One, I gave cop to Royston but it completely slipped from my mind that siblings are exactly like Lovers roles. It's just one bad judgment over another.
Two, I can guarantee that this will not be MyLo for a reason that will be apparent tomorrow night. I want Jinx to claim and everyone else to give their reads on each other. Tanz is looking a lot more like scum to me and I think Jinx is pulling a great string by the No Lynch. I'm expecting a Tanz and Dake scum team because of the convinience of hiding but Tanz pointing out the existence of a roleblocker from the beginning of D2 would be really bad scum play if he was scum.
I'm thinking a pair of Jinx and Dake or Dake and Tanz. Either way, I'm not satisfied with a No Lynch. If anyone has questions feel free to ask.
Vote: Dake.
afaik they claimed Masons, not Siblings, so how could that slipped from your mind? why Royston and why Cop?
I can think why are you voting me, but it'd be really nice if you make it explicit.
I can think why are you voting me, but it'd be really nice if you make it explicit.
1. Not MyLo? Then is it LyLo or pre-MyLo?Lilac wrote:
Two, I can guarantee that this will not be MyLo for a reason that will be apparent tomorrow night.
2. Tomorrow night as in N3 or N4? If it's N4, then the game would be over if today was MyLo and we lynched.
I'm not going to claim until you can prove to me it's worse than MyLo. Scum does not need more information than they have now.
I know that scum and you don't need more info but I do, Jinx.
1. It's pre-MyLo if I don't mess up and if pieguy isnt a terrible mod.
2. Tomorrow night as in D3.
Claim because I'm going to WIFOM scum and your character as well.
PoE and it is the best case scenario to lynch you Dake.
1. It's pre-MyLo if I don't mess up and if pieguy isnt a terrible mod.
2. Tomorrow night as in D3.
Claim because I'm going to WIFOM scum and your character as well.
PoE and it is the best case scenario to lynch you Dake.
Alright, fine. If we lose because you're wrong I will smack you so hard christ
I am Yukari Yakumo, and with my gaps, I can take items from the Outside World and use them. I am a JOAT and all my abilities are 1-shot.
On Night 1, I tracked fartownik and had No Result.
On Night 2, I followed Lilac and saw you visited Royston.
I still have an unused Voyeur ability, which does fuckall at this point
I am Yukari Yakumo, and with my gaps, I can take items from the Outside World and use them. I am a JOAT and all my abilities are 1-shot.
On Night 1, I tracked fartownik and had No Result.
On Night 2, I followed Lilac and saw you visited Royston.
I still have an unused Voyeur ability, which does fuckall at this point
I'm still not really convinced about that role especially how convinient that feels. A JOAT on pure investigative moves is really eww too.
Alright. I have a bulletproof left to give out so this is my proposal.
I'm going to randomly give out a bulletproof to some person. By LyLo if mafia has not hit this person, we can either draw or win the game on this gambit. This works only if PGO is alive and we have one mafia left.
Also by flavour, Jinx your character is the only who could cook up a plan and convince Cirno to be evil. It is almost 100% that you are scum.
Alright. I have a bulletproof left to give out so this is my proposal.
I'm going to randomly give out a bulletproof to some person. By LyLo if mafia has not hit this person, we can either draw or win the game on this gambit. This works only if PGO is alive and we have one mafia left.
Also by flavour, Jinx your character is the only who could cook up a plan and convince Cirno to be evil. It is almost 100% that you are scum.
I still don't quite understand why it's not MyLo, assuming 3 scum from your formula and it's currently 2-4. If we mislynch, we're entering Night with 2-3. Since we're all giving information out and I've already claimed, I want to know why you know we're not in MyLo, unless you're banking on the idea of you handing the BP correctly tonight?
And if you seriously want to talk flavor, what motive would Yukari have for killing Flan?
And if you seriously want to talk flavor, what motive would Yukari have for killing Flan?
I think yukari likes playing games, and overall fucking arounf.Jinxy wrote:
And if you seriously want to talk flavor, what motive would Yukari have for killing Flan?
still, I wouldn't argue on scumteams because of flavour.
also, lilac, we are at MyLo. even if you're town (of which I am uncertain as of now), banking on such a low chance that scum will shoot the guy you think they will shoot is not good. you would need perfect knowledge of who is scum and who isn't. if that's the case, then we don't even need your plan, as you would just argue us right to the scum, right?
also, dake's proposal is the only one that makes sense. we're at MyLo, so of course we will no lynch if at the end of the day we don't have anyone to lynch who is 100% scum. anything else is pure suicide.
I will do what I can do in order to clear the situation after I am more awake.
I'm not crazy enough to do this without a backup plan.
Definitely flavour is something bad to go on, I still think Dake is scum and as much as a no lynch is a safer option, I think letting scum have a free kill is certainly not helping and I can assure you that the risk is worth it. It may seem like a 33% chance is worse than a 66% chance but you can't ever be 100% sure anyway.
The choice is yours though.
Definitely flavour is something bad to go on, I still think Dake is scum and as much as a no lynch is a safer option, I think letting scum have a free kill is certainly not helping and I can assure you that the risk is worth it. It may seem like a 33% chance is worse than a 66% chance but you can't ever be 100% sure anyway.
The choice is yours though.
"I have a backup plan" is not a valid answer to my question, and the fact that you said it's "backup" does not instill confidence in me that you really know today isn't MyLo.
You're basically asking us to take a risk, without actually telling us what the reward is. Add that with the fact that the people you've given inventions to are conveniently:
1. Scum and
2. Dead (I know you visited Royston, I don't know and can't confirm what you really gave him)
Thus, I'm not going to follow you, and it's becoming apparent that it was a mistake that I even claimed. You're screaming scum increasingly loudly.
2. Yes, we can never be 100% sure.
Your two points are not even related. We can never be 100% sure, which is why we have to take as much of a % as we can get.
You're basically asking us to take a risk, without actually telling us what the reward is. Add that with the fact that the people you've given inventions to are conveniently:
1. Scum and
2. Dead (I know you visited Royston, I don't know and can't confirm what you really gave him)
Thus, I'm not going to follow you, and it's becoming apparent that it was a mistake that I even claimed. You're screaming scum increasingly loudly.
1. It is worse.Lilac wrote:
It may seem like a 33% chance is worse than a 66% chance but you can't ever be 100% sure anyway.
2. Yes, we can never be 100% sure.
Your two points are not even related. We can never be 100% sure, which is why we have to take as much of a % as we can get.
Alright. I concede but I'm still convinced of Dake being scum.
Heading to sleep now. Final note, farto should really commend you to have better scum play than me though. You actually gutted me really badly.
Heading to sleep now. Final note, farto should really commend you to have better scum play than me though. You actually gutted me really badly.
Unvote.
Vote: No Lynch.
Vote: No Lynch.
DakeDekaane wrote:
why Royston and why Cop?
Also you chose me having already Tanz and Jinxy as suspects, why they can't be scum together?
Topic Starter
Votecount 3.1
No lynch (2) - Jinxy, Lilac (L - 2)
deadline is in 61:32
No lynch (2) - Jinxy, Lilac (L - 2)
deadline is in 61:32
Tell me who would scum rather shoot, farto or Royston? Essentially I'm pretty sure farto would be the kill target, which he was and Royston would at least have enough chance to survive with his airhead approach. Although, I didn't know that both would die like that so that was a big mistake on my part.
Bulletproof is my last gift I can give anyway so who totally wants it?
I just realised when I couldn't sleep that a no lynch today would be we need all of town voting for mafia and that puts increased pressure on town. So I ask is it really worth to put that burden just for a higher chance? We've got a lot of evidence as is and we can still get more, I don't even know why I voted No Lynch...
By No Lynching to get a 66% chance of hitting scum, you're giving that opportunity to let scum deceive 3 people as opposed to 4.
Unvote. I'll think this through more carefully as well.
Bulletproof is my last gift I can give anyway so who totally wants it?
I just realised when I couldn't sleep that a no lynch today would be we need all of town voting for mafia and that puts increased pressure on town. So I ask is it really worth to put that burden just for a higher chance? We've got a lot of evidence as is and we can still get more, I don't even know why I voted No Lynch...
By No Lynching to get a 66% chance of hitting scum, you're giving that opportunity to let scum deceive 3 people as opposed to 4.
Unvote. I'll think this through more carefully as well.
Also, I'm casting BRBP in doubt now. Scum dayvigs are possible and that's really gnawing at me. Paranoia.
Whoa whoa whoa wait, you concede that you don't know for sure that today isn't MyLo, despite saying in bold that you could guarantee it? Honestly, my last post was an attempt to make you tell us the reason, and you just flat out conceded the point. So you're saying you completely lied, and I claimed for nothing?Lilac wrote:
Alright. I concede but I'm still convinced of Dake being scum.
well great honking job guy
And then you're still pushing on for a lynch today? Also, that logic is flawed. We need 4 votes to hammer today, and there are 4 town. All of town is still needed to hammer mafia today.Lilac wrote:
I just realised when I couldn't sleep that a no lynch today would be we need all of town voting for mafia and that puts increased pressure on town.
No, I didn't lie. It's just not worth saying it.
You either have 4 town contributing or 3, the choice is yours.
You either have 4 town contributing or 3, the choice is yours.
Also, that conceding post was at 1AM when I was in my hotel room, gutted by your comment I could not sleep because of that, I was next to a snoring person and the room was too hot to sleep in. So obviously I wasn't in the best state of mind then.
BRBP, are you perhaps a Lyncher as well...?
Like, I'm pretty sure...maybe my imagination.
Like, I'm pretty sure...maybe my imagination.
Also I can not see how more discussion will help scum at all.
So can other people like talk? You know, considering we have a confirmed dayvig and an implied PGO...
So can other people like talk? You know, considering we have a confirmed dayvig and an implied PGO...
wow, you get rather ridiculous here.BRBP wrote:
Vote: TanzI agree that it's a suicide to you if vote for scum.Tanzklaue wrote:
we're at MyLo, so of course we will no lynch if at the end of the day we don't have anyone to lynch who is 100% scum. anything else is pure suicide.
the problem is that voting for BRBP is a big risk, a risk that we can't really take at this point. I am 99% sure that dake isn't scum at this point, except if there is another scumaligned roleblocking and/or hiding role (that thing with lilac and rb doesn't have to be necessarily true I guess), in which case we are honestly quite fucked regardless, from a role point of view.
BRBP, quickvoting won't help us here, if we vote, then we need to plan this out. you also are still so overly convinced of me being scum that it just seems really weird. no townie or scum would ever bite himself on one player for the whole game and tunnel on him like you do. you better explain your reasoning at this point, or we can start playing this as a LyLo with 3 town anyway.
also, mimi is awfully quiet, and hasn't said much beyond the point of BRBP ringing his scumbells.
I read the posts above.
I will apologize for your lack of sleep, though the fact that you were that gutted from my arguments either means you're town and just didn't think things through, or you're scum and you have no rebuttal. I'm leaning with the latter, since at this point you're still keeping quiet about your so-called plan.Lilac wrote:
Also, that conceding post was at 1AM when I was in my hotel room, gutted by your comment I could not sleep because of that, I was next to a snoring person and the room was too hot to sleep in. So obviously I wasn't in the best state of mind then.
More discussion = More information for scum and they can then use that information to plan their actions, but there's no use now, more than enough has been today for them to make their plans, thanks to youLilac wrote:
Also I can not see how more discussion will help scum at all.
Well, would you like a gold star for that? No use telling us that you read the thread when you certainly don't show it in your posts. We need reasons to your actions. What are your reasons for thinking Tanz is scum? Your previous post was literally "quote something irrelevant, and toss in some half-assed scumpainting in response".BRBP wrote:
I read the posts above.
Well, if that's how you interpret it. Slips are when
Whoops hit reply instead of preview, was checking if there were new posts while I got distracted by facebook
Anyway, slips are when something can be interpreted as scummy. I didn't see that from Tanz's post because that was a normal observation that's made in MyLo.
Also, back on topic, how about answering something actually useful instead of arguing about what constitutes a slip and what doesn't:
Anyway, slips are when something can be interpreted as scummy. I didn't see that from Tanz's post because that was a normal observation that's made in MyLo.
Also, back on topic, how about answering something actually useful instead of arguing about what constitutes a slip and what doesn't:
Jinxy wrote:
We need reasons to your actions. What are your reasons for thinking Tanz is scum?
And also more information to town as well...your point is essentially moot. The only information they have is roles, that's it.Jinxy wrote:
More discussion = More information for scum and they can then use that information to plan their actions, but there's no use now, more than enough has been today for them to make their plans, thanks to you
Do we truly need that information today, though? We could have ended D3 with a NL and gave scum nothing to plan with during N3, before discussing everything to make the best decision D4 where our chances of lynching correctly are at their highest.
What decision could possibly be made? The only thing was your role was revealed. They're still going to have a hard time deciding with a PGO and someone who can give a bulletproof.
Even then they don't have all the information, I haven't said all of my role yet. I have one more thing I can do with my role on top of being Inventor and now scum are going to have to figure out what it is and see whether if their plan during N3 is worth it or not. Whether they have to calculate something new or not.
For now, I'm not pressuring to lynch anyone but I ask this question to everyone. If you wanted to lynch today, who would you lynch? (Apart from bloody BRBP.)
Even then they don't have all the information, I haven't said all of my role yet. I have one more thing I can do with my role on top of being Inventor and now scum are going to have to figure out what it is and see whether if their plan during N3 is worth it or not. Whether they have to calculate something new or not.
For now, I'm not pressuring to lynch anyone but I ask this question to everyone. If you wanted to lynch today, who would you lynch? (Apart from bloody BRBP.)
Sorry for not posting for so long ;3;
I don't really know what to say at this stage of the game (it IS my second game of mafia ;_;), and I had a bunch of other things to do on the weekend too.
I still think No Lynch can help us gather information tonight. I feel like there's too much at risk at this point. If we make use of our information roles and get the correct lynch on D4, then we can use player connections/PoE to find out who the last scum is.
It sucks that Jinxy is only left with a Voyeur... I guess we could use it to confirm someone along with Jinxy himself, perhaps Lilac since Jinxy is so suspicious of him x:
As for Tanz, I'm thinking he's most likely going to get killed tonight. However, on the off chance that the mafia targets someone else for whatever reason, he can check BRBP (even though he used his oneshot dayvig, he could still be mafia and therefore still have a gun right?) or whoever else he wants I guess.
Also, if I REALLY HAD to lynch someone, it would probably be Dake, because among all of the players here (myself included), we've had the least information on his role and his claim is incredibly ambiguous.
Plus, so far he's almost completely ignored BRBP whereas he has pretty much given everyone else some sort of attention (scum points for everyone lmao). And his post from earlier today, where he actually puts some of his attention on BRBP, seems somewhat friendly/open to him. On top of this, they're both very focused on Tanz, being the only ones who had their votes on him at the end of the day.
I don't really know what to say at this stage of the game (it IS my second game of mafia ;_;), and I had a bunch of other things to do on the weekend too.
I still think No Lynch can help us gather information tonight. I feel like there's too much at risk at this point. If we make use of our information roles and get the correct lynch on D4, then we can use player connections/PoE to find out who the last scum is.
It sucks that Jinxy is only left with a Voyeur... I guess we could use it to confirm someone along with Jinxy himself, perhaps Lilac since Jinxy is so suspicious of him x:
As for Tanz, I'm thinking he's most likely going to get killed tonight. However, on the off chance that the mafia targets someone else for whatever reason, he can check BRBP (even though he used his oneshot dayvig, he could still be mafia and therefore still have a gun right?) or whoever else he wants I guess.
Also, if I REALLY HAD to lynch someone, it would probably be Dake, because among all of the players here (myself included), we've had the least information on his role and his claim is incredibly ambiguous.
Plus, so far he's almost completely ignored BRBP whereas he has pretty much given everyone else some sort of attention (scum points for everyone lmao). And his post from earlier today, where he actually puts some of his attention on BRBP, seems somewhat friendly/open to him. On top of this, they're both very focused on Tanz, being the only ones who had their votes on him at the end of the day.
So you're claiming your role isn't just an Inventor now? How unique, compared to everyone else.
If I really, absolutely had to lynch today, it'd be you obviously. Claiming it's not MyLo without backing it up... well, to be specific, recently backing it up with an extra ability claim, which I don't buy at all. In my eyes, you're scum that's trying to get us to lynch today when it's harder to hit scum.
If I really, absolutely had to lynch today, it'd be you obviously. Claiming it's not MyLo without backing it up... well, to be specific, recently backing it up with an extra ability claim, which I don't buy at all. In my eyes, you're scum that's trying to get us to lynch today when it's harder to hit scum.
Actually, now that I look at it, what's this?
If I remember correctly, nobody said anything about RB protecting Dake...?
(from Dake's first readlist which I had conveniently linked in my previous post, directed at Tanz I believe)DakeDekaane wrote:
If you think RB doesn't want me lynched then vote him, or it's that you don't want him lynched?
If I remember correctly, nobody said anything about RB protecting Dake...?
Oh my god I love my new avatar so much.
Ne ne Patchy, you didn't kill Satori-neechan right? ouo
Ne ne Patchy, you didn't kill Satori-neechan right? ouo
RB's actions were discussed D2 iirc, going to look around there now to see if there's anything new we can interpret from it. Though, I don't really think Dake's scum, since it's highly likely he's a Commuter thanks to Tanz's investigation.
Also, now that you mentioned it, Dake's character is Patchouli. It seems weird that Patchouli of all people would be scum and killed her friend's sister. Of course, this is all by flavour so relying on it too strongly isn't what I would recommend.
Assuming pieguy isn't derping around and reinterpreting roles, there's no way Dake can kill as a Commuter.Wiki wrote:
The Commuter is a role that "leaves Town" each Night, thus making them ineligible to be targeted by Night actions. By extension, they cannot use any Night actions they may have.
Also, now that you mentioned it, Dake's character is Patchouli. It seems weird that Patchouli of all people would be scum and killed her friend's sister. Of course, this is all by flavour so relying on it too strongly isn't what I would recommend.
I'm pretty sure that Tanz could easily say he checked Dake and then say nothing happened while investigating him which could confirm his role as a scum pair which is my main point for a Dake and Tanz team. There's still a problem though if Tanz was scum and that is why did he make a roleblocker's existence be known if he was scum?
Anyway, getting up now.
Anyway, getting up now.
Topic Starter
votecount 3.2
No lynch (1) - Jinxy
Tanzklaue (1) - BRBP
deadline is in 31:04
No lynch (1) - Jinxy
Tanzklaue (1) - BRBP
deadline is in 31:04
Now that I think better, Lilac, why didn't you give the Cop to BRBP, as he's the less likely to be targeted by scum as he's likely to be a VT now?
I know that my claim looks too convenient, but also yours Lilac. The only difference is that nobody can confirm your actions, that's why I doubt of you.
And Kitsune, yes, that was directed to Tanz for this: p/2472995/
He voted RB first and then focused on me when RB was in danger line.
I know that my claim looks too convenient, but also yours Lilac. The only difference is that nobody can confirm your actions, that's why I doubt of you.
And Kitsune, yes, that was directed to Tanz for this: p/2472995/
He voted RB first and then focused on me when RB was in danger line.
Don't trust him enough, I doubt you would either. I still have my doubts that BRBP is town.