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Sakura wrote:
Making pies obviously *runs*
I confess that I only recently started to pronounce the "pie" in pieguy's name like the word "pie" instead of my silly german pronounciation :cJinxy wrote:
Sakura wrote:
Making pies obviously *runs*
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sorry for late, overslept
back home now so deadlines should be normal again :3
RB (5) - Lilac, fartownik, Royston, Kitsunemimi, Jinxy
Tanzklaue (2) - BRBP, DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane (1) - Tanzklaue
fartownik (1) - RB
You're a baka, thus you must die!
i-i-eye didn't do it! Cirno doesn't know enough about life and death to comprehend what's going on here...
Tell me everything that happened after you arrived.
you're so pushy. I won't tell anything ~
aahhh..Please tell me everything that happened after you arrived.
some people told me to join them and good things would happe- AA~
before she finished, someone had grabbed her and disappeared before anyone knew who it was. It seems she was too much of an idiot to be left alive..
Raging Bull (Cirno) - Mafia Roleblocker - lynched D2
it is N2. deadline is 8/9, 9:00 GMT (16:05 from now)
all deadlines should be normal after this cause I've returned home now. if I miss it again, slap me plz
back home now so deadlines should be normal again :3
RB (5) - Lilac, fartownik, Royston, Kitsunemimi, Jinxy
Tanzklaue (2) - BRBP, DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane (1) - Tanzklaue
fartownik (1) - RB
You're a baka, thus you must die!
i-i-eye didn't do it! Cirno doesn't know enough about life and death to comprehend what's going on here...
Tell me everything that happened after you arrived.
you're so pushy. I won't tell anything ~
aahhh..Please tell me everything that happened after you arrived.
some people told me to join them and good things would happe- AA~
before she finished, someone had grabbed her and disappeared before anyone knew who it was. It seems she was too much of an idiot to be left alive..
Raging Bull (Cirno) - Mafia Roleblocker - lynched D2
it is N2. deadline is 8/9, 9:00 GMT (16:05 from now)
all deadlines should be normal after this cause I've returned home now. if I miss it again, slap me plz
@mod: slap
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>:I
pieguy for the most punctual host 2013.
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oh wtf did I really set that deadline
sorry, I meant 8/10 9:00 GMT (11:34 from now). my miss again.. being tired really causes weird stuff to happen > <
sorry, I meant 8/10 9:00 GMT (11:34 from now). my miss again.. being tired really causes weird stuff to happen > <
So the night is not 24h? ;o
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a 16 hour night seems a bit short, and I prefer all deadlines to be at 2:00 my local time cause I know I'll be awake then @_@
pieguy1372 wrote:
You're a baka, thus you must die!
i-i-eye didn't do it! Cirno doesn't know enough about life and death to comprehend what's going on here...
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everyone woke up again, but they immediately noticed something was wrong. For some reason, they felt a lot less fearful than before. Then they realized why: Komeiji Satori was missing. They looked in her room and she wasn't there either. Eventually, with Sakuya's help, they found a closet that they had mysteriously walked past before. Sure enough, Satori was there, and it looked like she had been shot. they weren't sure whether to feel relief, since she could no longer read their minds, or even more fear than before.
fartownik (Komeiji Satori) - Sibling - killed N2
they decided to do a head count just to be safe and they found out another person was missing. they couldn't quite remember who she was, what she looked like, or what she said, but something still didn't seem right..
Royston (Komeiji Koishi) - Sibling - disappeared? N2
so two people died again? fufufu~ this is certainly getting interesting-
wait, so the second person is really dead?
well, we found someone that looked like here wandering around the mansion the other night, so I decided to have some fun ~ she's not dead, but good luck finding her, if she's awake by now..
It is D3. With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is 8/14, 9:00 GMT (95:53 from now)
fartownik (Komeiji Satori) - Sibling - killed N2
they decided to do a head count just to be safe and they found out another person was missing. they couldn't quite remember who she was, what she looked like, or what she said, but something still didn't seem right..
Royston (Komeiji Koishi) - Sibling - disappeared? N2
so two people died again? fufufu~ this is certainly getting interesting-
wait, so the second person is really dead?
well, we found someone that looked like here wandering around the mansion the other night, so I decided to have some fun ~ she's not dead, but good luck finding her, if she's awake by now..
It is D3. With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is 8/14, 9:00 GMT (95:53 from now)
okay, guys listen up:
we either have to do with lovers (but they would've told us that they are lovers, right...?) or double kill mafia. the term "sibling" makes me hope that it is lovers-like role. if they aren't, in fact, lovers, then we aren't just in MyLo, but already in LyLo. but I believe it is lovers, because of the kill describtion and the fact that N1 had a PGo kill instead of a second mafiakill (at least I hope that it was a PGO kill).
I also got no result on Dake, which means his claim is true (except if there are any other shenanigans with roleblocking or a hider).that means he is most likely town. that leaves us with BRBP, kitsune, lilac, and jinxy.
BRBP: please, start playing like a townie if you are one. it would really help us if you stopped being a doorknob and started cooperating with us.
Dake: I am sorry for leading charges against you, in this situation, who are your leads?
Lilac: who did you use your ability on?
my two leads here are Lilac and Jinxy. how likely are scum PGOs btw?
we either have to do with lovers (but they would've told us that they are lovers, right...?) or double kill mafia. the term "sibling" makes me hope that it is lovers-like role. if they aren't, in fact, lovers, then we aren't just in MyLo, but already in LyLo. but I believe it is lovers, because of the kill describtion and the fact that N1 had a PGo kill instead of a second mafiakill (at least I hope that it was a PGO kill).
I also got no result on Dake, which means his claim is true (except if there are any other shenanigans with roleblocking or a hider).that means he is most likely town. that leaves us with BRBP, kitsune, lilac, and jinxy.
BRBP: please, start playing like a townie if you are one. it would really help us if you stopped being a doorknob and started cooperating with us.
Dake: I am sorry for leading charges against you, in this situation, who are your leads?
Lilac: who did you use your ability on?
my two leads here are Lilac and Jinxy. how likely are scum PGOs btw?
With that, I'm believe that we're in MyLo right now, so Vote: No Lynch.Wiki wrote:
Sibling is sometimes used to refer to Lovers who are guaranteed to be of the same alignment. Lovers are to Siblings what Neighbors are to Masons.
Any more discussion today helps scum choose their target better tonight so personally I would wait till tomorrow for any Q&A.
I would view it as the opposite. ending the day early is the worst thing we can do.
it's quite clear that scum will shoot me, because all the other targets are either unkillable (kitsune, dake) or meaningless (BRBP).
there is no way that cutting the discussion short helps town. ever.
it's quite clear that scum will shoot me, because all the other targets are either unkillable (kitsune, dake) or meaningless (BRBP).
there is no way that cutting the discussion short helps town. ever.
There's a small possibility that he's a Mafia Godfather, and pieguy just made him immune to your gunsmith investigations.Tanzklaue wrote:
I also got no result on Dake, which means his claim is true (except if there are any other shenanigans with roleblocking or a hider).that means he is most likely town. that leaves us with BRBP, kitsune, lilac, and jinxy.
I'm willing to to agree with Tanz on this one that he's most likely going to be targetted for the mafia kill tonight, so I think it would be good if we engaged in a little discussion at least.
Also, I'm really thinking BRBP is scum more and more now. After reading the 5p Jester Mafia game that just finished, BRBP, as the only mafia, was given a chance to hammer and win the game, yet he passes up on it just to "confirm" himself as town, and lets the other town members vote each other off in confusion. His posts always make him look like he has absolutely no idea what he's doing (you could call it passive ignorance...?), which can result in disaster if you just let him off easy. Many of his posts from when he killed NH still look indubitably scummy, especially the points about "I'd rather let mafia kill Sakura than waste a vote on lynching her myself". It's possible that the reason why he took the shot without claiming first was so that he could make use of his (somewhat difficult to properly utilize) role as mafia dayvig before he got lynched, so mafia has one less townie to take down. He could then cover it up by saying "that was the only way to prove myself" and "hurr I was a retard so I didn't realize I should've claimed", but in the end, all he cared about was the fact that he got the kill.
He also completely ignored RB and tried to focus as much of his attention on getting Tanz lynched.
nope, there isn't. if he was something like a godfather for gunsmiths, then I would've gotten a "DakeDekaane has no guns" result.Kitsunemimi wrote:
There's a small possibility that he's a Mafia Godfather, and pieguy just made him immune to your gunsmith investigations.Tanzklaue wrote:
I also got no result on Dake, which means his claim is true (except if there are any other shenanigans with roleblocking or a hider).that means he is most likely town. that leaves us with BRBP, kitsune, lilac, and jinxy.
Policy lynch BRBP?
I'd agree with No Lynch, but only if we can't get sure scum today, not as a must and thus ending the day quickly, also we won't get something from Lilac until August 12th, so it's better if we're patient than making rushed things. We should know who targeted Lilac though, that "something" he gave to RB is a bit odd imo, but still not sure about it until know what he did last night.
Also Tanz, giving me townread doesn't make you look town for me, tho the suspicious is a less than previous day, I still have to decide between you, Lilac and possibly Jinxy for that fast NL vote.
@BRBP: did you get something this night?
I'd agree with No Lynch, but only if we can't get sure scum today, not as a must and thus ending the day quickly, also we won't get something from Lilac until August 12th, so it's better if we're patient than making rushed things. We should know who targeted Lilac though, that "something" he gave to RB is a bit odd imo, but still not sure about it until know what he did last night.
Also Tanz, giving me townread doesn't make you look town for me, tho the suspicious is a less than previous day, I still have to decide between you, Lilac and possibly Jinxy for that fast NL vote.
@BRBP: did you get something this night?
Since I'm waiting for my room to get cleaned for 15 minutes and I've got nothing else to do I should just start saying stuff.
One, I gave cop to Royston but it completely slipped from my mind that siblings are exactly like Lovers roles. It's just one bad judgment over another.
Two, I can guarantee that this will not be MyLo for a reason that will be apparent tomorrow night. I want Jinx to claim and everyone else to give their reads on each other. Tanz is looking a lot more like scum to me and I think Jinx is pulling a great string by the No Lynch. I'm expecting a Tanz and Dake scum team because of the convinience of hiding but Tanz pointing out the existence of a roleblocker from the beginning of D2 would be really bad scum play if he was scum.
I'm thinking a pair of Jinx and Dake or Dake and Tanz. Either way, I'm not satisfied with a No Lynch. If anyone has questions feel free to ask.
Vote: Dake.
One, I gave cop to Royston but it completely slipped from my mind that siblings are exactly like Lovers roles. It's just one bad judgment over another.
Two, I can guarantee that this will not be MyLo for a reason that will be apparent tomorrow night. I want Jinx to claim and everyone else to give their reads on each other. Tanz is looking a lot more like scum to me and I think Jinx is pulling a great string by the No Lynch. I'm expecting a Tanz and Dake scum team because of the convinience of hiding but Tanz pointing out the existence of a roleblocker from the beginning of D2 would be really bad scum play if he was scum.
I'm thinking a pair of Jinx and Dake or Dake and Tanz. Either way, I'm not satisfied with a No Lynch. If anyone has questions feel free to ask.
Vote: Dake.
afaik they claimed Masons, not Siblings, so how could that slipped from your mind? why Royston and why Cop?
I can think why are you voting me, but it'd be really nice if you make it explicit.
I can think why are you voting me, but it'd be really nice if you make it explicit.
1. Not MyLo? Then is it LyLo or pre-MyLo?Lilac wrote:
Two, I can guarantee that this will not be MyLo for a reason that will be apparent tomorrow night.
2. Tomorrow night as in N3 or N4? If it's N4, then the game would be over if today was MyLo and we lynched.
I'm not going to claim until you can prove to me it's worse than MyLo. Scum does not need more information than they have now.
I know that scum and you don't need more info but I do, Jinx.
1. It's pre-MyLo if I don't mess up and if pieguy isnt a terrible mod.
2. Tomorrow night as in D3.
Claim because I'm going to WIFOM scum and your character as well.
PoE and it is the best case scenario to lynch you Dake.
1. It's pre-MyLo if I don't mess up and if pieguy isnt a terrible mod.
2. Tomorrow night as in D3.
Claim because I'm going to WIFOM scum and your character as well.
PoE and it is the best case scenario to lynch you Dake.
Alright, fine. If we lose because you're wrong I will smack you so hard christ
I am Yukari Yakumo, and with my gaps, I can take items from the Outside World and use them. I am a JOAT and all my abilities are 1-shot.
On Night 1, I tracked fartownik and had No Result.
On Night 2, I followed Lilac and saw you visited Royston.
I still have an unused Voyeur ability, which does fuckall at this point
I am Yukari Yakumo, and with my gaps, I can take items from the Outside World and use them. I am a JOAT and all my abilities are 1-shot.
On Night 1, I tracked fartownik and had No Result.
On Night 2, I followed Lilac and saw you visited Royston.
I still have an unused Voyeur ability, which does fuckall at this point
I'm still not really convinced about that role especially how convinient that feels. A JOAT on pure investigative moves is really eww too.
Alright. I have a bulletproof left to give out so this is my proposal.
I'm going to randomly give out a bulletproof to some person. By LyLo if mafia has not hit this person, we can either draw or win the game on this gambit. This works only if PGO is alive and we have one mafia left.
Also by flavour, Jinx your character is the only who could cook up a plan and convince Cirno to be evil. It is almost 100% that you are scum.
Alright. I have a bulletproof left to give out so this is my proposal.
I'm going to randomly give out a bulletproof to some person. By LyLo if mafia has not hit this person, we can either draw or win the game on this gambit. This works only if PGO is alive and we have one mafia left.
Also by flavour, Jinx your character is the only who could cook up a plan and convince Cirno to be evil. It is almost 100% that you are scum.
I still don't quite understand why it's not MyLo, assuming 3 scum from your formula and it's currently 2-4. If we mislynch, we're entering Night with 2-3. Since we're all giving information out and I've already claimed, I want to know why you know we're not in MyLo, unless you're banking on the idea of you handing the BP correctly tonight?
And if you seriously want to talk flavor, what motive would Yukari have for killing Flan?
And if you seriously want to talk flavor, what motive would Yukari have for killing Flan?
I think yukari likes playing games, and overall fucking arounf.Jinxy wrote:
And if you seriously want to talk flavor, what motive would Yukari have for killing Flan?
still, I wouldn't argue on scumteams because of flavour.
also, lilac, we are at MyLo. even if you're town (of which I am uncertain as of now), banking on such a low chance that scum will shoot the guy you think they will shoot is not good. you would need perfect knowledge of who is scum and who isn't. if that's the case, then we don't even need your plan, as you would just argue us right to the scum, right?
also, dake's proposal is the only one that makes sense. we're at MyLo, so of course we will no lynch if at the end of the day we don't have anyone to lynch who is 100% scum. anything else is pure suicide.
I will do what I can do in order to clear the situation after I am more awake.
I'm not crazy enough to do this without a backup plan.
Definitely flavour is something bad to go on, I still think Dake is scum and as much as a no lynch is a safer option, I think letting scum have a free kill is certainly not helping and I can assure you that the risk is worth it. It may seem like a 33% chance is worse than a 66% chance but you can't ever be 100% sure anyway.
The choice is yours though.
Definitely flavour is something bad to go on, I still think Dake is scum and as much as a no lynch is a safer option, I think letting scum have a free kill is certainly not helping and I can assure you that the risk is worth it. It may seem like a 33% chance is worse than a 66% chance but you can't ever be 100% sure anyway.
The choice is yours though.
"I have a backup plan" is not a valid answer to my question, and the fact that you said it's "backup" does not instill confidence in me that you really know today isn't MyLo.
You're basically asking us to take a risk, without actually telling us what the reward is. Add that with the fact that the people you've given inventions to are conveniently:
1. Scum and
2. Dead (I know you visited Royston, I don't know and can't confirm what you really gave him)
Thus, I'm not going to follow you, and it's becoming apparent that it was a mistake that I even claimed. You're screaming scum increasingly loudly.
2. Yes, we can never be 100% sure.
Your two points are not even related. We can never be 100% sure, which is why we have to take as much of a % as we can get.
You're basically asking us to take a risk, without actually telling us what the reward is. Add that with the fact that the people you've given inventions to are conveniently:
1. Scum and
2. Dead (I know you visited Royston, I don't know and can't confirm what you really gave him)
Thus, I'm not going to follow you, and it's becoming apparent that it was a mistake that I even claimed. You're screaming scum increasingly loudly.
1. It is worse.Lilac wrote:
It may seem like a 33% chance is worse than a 66% chance but you can't ever be 100% sure anyway.
2. Yes, we can never be 100% sure.
Your two points are not even related. We can never be 100% sure, which is why we have to take as much of a % as we can get.
Alright. I concede but I'm still convinced of Dake being scum.
Heading to sleep now. Final note, farto should really commend you to have better scum play than me though. You actually gutted me really badly.
Heading to sleep now. Final note, farto should really commend you to have better scum play than me though. You actually gutted me really badly.
Unvote.
Vote: No Lynch.
Vote: No Lynch.
DakeDekaane wrote:
why Royston and why Cop?
Also you chose me having already Tanz and Jinxy as suspects, why they can't be scum together?
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Votecount 3.1
No lynch (2) - Jinxy, Lilac (L - 2)
deadline is in 61:32
No lynch (2) - Jinxy, Lilac (L - 2)
deadline is in 61:32
Tell me who would scum rather shoot, farto or Royston? Essentially I'm pretty sure farto would be the kill target, which he was and Royston would at least have enough chance to survive with his airhead approach. Although, I didn't know that both would die like that so that was a big mistake on my part.
Bulletproof is my last gift I can give anyway so who totally wants it?
I just realised when I couldn't sleep that a no lynch today would be we need all of town voting for mafia and that puts increased pressure on town. So I ask is it really worth to put that burden just for a higher chance? We've got a lot of evidence as is and we can still get more, I don't even know why I voted No Lynch...
By No Lynching to get a 66% chance of hitting scum, you're giving that opportunity to let scum deceive 3 people as opposed to 4.
Unvote. I'll think this through more carefully as well.
Bulletproof is my last gift I can give anyway so who totally wants it?
I just realised when I couldn't sleep that a no lynch today would be we need all of town voting for mafia and that puts increased pressure on town. So I ask is it really worth to put that burden just for a higher chance? We've got a lot of evidence as is and we can still get more, I don't even know why I voted No Lynch...
By No Lynching to get a 66% chance of hitting scum, you're giving that opportunity to let scum deceive 3 people as opposed to 4.
Unvote. I'll think this through more carefully as well.
Also, I'm casting BRBP in doubt now. Scum dayvigs are possible and that's really gnawing at me. Paranoia.
Whoa whoa whoa wait, you concede that you don't know for sure that today isn't MyLo, despite saying in bold that you could guarantee it? Honestly, my last post was an attempt to make you tell us the reason, and you just flat out conceded the point. So you're saying you completely lied, and I claimed for nothing?Lilac wrote:
Alright. I concede but I'm still convinced of Dake being scum.
well great honking job guy
And then you're still pushing on for a lynch today? Also, that logic is flawed. We need 4 votes to hammer today, and there are 4 town. All of town is still needed to hammer mafia today.Lilac wrote:
I just realised when I couldn't sleep that a no lynch today would be we need all of town voting for mafia and that puts increased pressure on town.
No, I didn't lie. It's just not worth saying it.
You either have 4 town contributing or 3, the choice is yours.
You either have 4 town contributing or 3, the choice is yours.
Also, that conceding post was at 1AM when I was in my hotel room, gutted by your comment I could not sleep because of that, I was next to a snoring person and the room was too hot to sleep in. So obviously I wasn't in the best state of mind then.