Can we just lynch Kanye already
Posted: 2 days agoChrist. Prod: Kanye West for the third fucking time
I'm personally up for lynching scummy people than inactives who are assumed to be scummy due to only meta, so Vote: RoystonRoyston wrote:
Frankly I still have a null read on you, the vote wasa reaction testsimply for pressure.
there is. if you get prodded 3 times, you technically get auto replaced.Jinxy wrote:
Posted: 2 days agoChrist. Prod: Kanye West for the third fucking time
Is there a "3 Prods and you're out" rule
There should be a rule like that
What's the difference between a 'relative sure misslynch' and a 'potential scumlynch'? Either someone's scum, or they're not. What makes you say RB's a relative sure misslynch, anyway?Tanzklaue wrote:
I also find royston decently fishy. his reasoning of how he would prefer misslynching over NL when there is no indicator for NL at all is out of place, and his openly admitted acceptance of risking to lynch someone he doesn't even have a nullread is downright scummy. you should never take a relative sure misslynch over potential scumlynches.
Yeah, it may have been a poor decision on my part. But the fact that RB didn't get quickhammered shows something, at least.fratownik wrote:
He might not admit that, but I think voting RB in such advanced way was just a newbie slip.
Remaining scum, you say? Interesting choice of words there.Royston wrote:
@Jinxy since you're voting me, who do you think the remaining scum are?
Another thing I don't like is the "newbie" argument, which also works on unfounded assumptions. iirc, NH or someone pulled that argument in some other forum and steamrolled that game because the other players fell for it.fartownik wrote:
He might not admit that, but I think voting RB in such advanced way was just a newbie slip. Not seeing it is scummy.
Explain, what kind of "something"?Royston wrote:
Yeah, it may have been a poor decision on my part. But the fact that RB didn't get quickhammered shows something, at least.
I had to read over this topic and stumble across this, said before he got his role. It's not enough to make me take my vote off him but damn, it's making me reconsider.Kanye West wrote:
BMin can have my spot if he wants. I'm lazy to play mafia while hosting anyway
Alright, I don't feel as bad now.pieguy wrote:
Please, don't join if you won't be able to be active > <
Still could be possibly scummy, trying to make debates/look like he's scumhunting without looking like he just want to get someone lynched? We'll see.fartownik wrote:
I don't like 1on1 discussions like this because they usually turn out being a Town vs Town fights
Royston's recent posts have been making me feel more and more like he's scum. Like... rrgh I don't really know how to explain myself actually. By now, with the exception of Kanye, Royston is far behind in postcount from everyone else. His posts seem to be lacking in content as well. I don't know if he's just playing this game half-assedly, or perhaps he's mafia, and his inexperience is making it hard for him to come up with anything. Though, imo if it's your first game, you'd probably try to make a decent effort right? Because it helps you learn better. Jinxy also brings up a good point on himfartownik wrote:
And if there's a Doctor - you possibly ruined the game for Town.
fart proposes that it could be a newbie error... But even if that's so, he could still be mafia and it would still count as a noob error: his vote made himself suspicious without him realizing it. Also,Jinxy wrote:
He basically admitted that he put RB on L-1 for "pressure" (which as I've said, is a weak reason) while not actually thinking he's scum.
I don't want to pick on Royston just because he's new, but he literally used this as a free escape from his error.Royston wrote:
Yeah, it may have been a poor decision on my part. But the fact that RB didn't get quickhammered shows something, at least.fartownik wrote:
He might not admit that, but I think voting RB in such advanced way was just a newbie slip.
BRBP wrote:
I don't think it shows anything, actually...Royston wrote:
Yeah, it may have been a poor decision on my part. But the fact that RB didn't get quickhammered shows something, at least.
Yeah ok it doesn't show anything. It was 1AM when I posted that sorryJinxy wrote:
Explain, what kind of "something"?
I've done plenty of reaction tests to establish my reads. If I expected such reaction from the player then I mark him as Town (for now), because it's more likely he's Town than scum by this reaction, and if we can't really base on the lynches/kills this is the way to play the game.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Something I noticed about fart's targeting is that he seems to always suddenly find someone to focus on, and then after a short exchange, he'd let them off and be like "well okay, your reasoning seems town so it's fiiiiine". Which is normal, but he pretty much did that for everyone he suspected. However, he did mention something that explains his actions pretty well:Still could be possibly scummy, trying to make debates/look like he's scumhunting without looking like he just want to get someone lynched? We'll see.fartownik wrote:
I don't like 1on1 discussions like this because they usually turn out being a Town vs Town fights
The Doctor didn't protect Sakura - Sakura died. The most powerful role in the game died because the Doctor misread her/done something totally random. Congrats.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Oh, also, I wanted to ask you what this was about:fartownik wrote:
And if there's a Doctor - you possibly ruined the game for Town.
This was before pieguy confirmed BRBP's action. Due to confusion was quite easy to scum lynch him at this rate, smart scum would had finished the day and let the town quite lost, but the fact is that there were at least 2 scum voting there, as BRBP didn't get hammered. +1 Scumpoints to everyone here.Votecount wrote:
BRBP (5) - Lilac, Jinxy, Raging Bull, Tanzklaue, Kitsunemimi (L-2)
Though Kitsunemimi bringed up the NL idea and still doubting if it would be a good idea, scum took advantage from a confirmed town (Sakura) starting the wagon and some other townies, (Rantai) to join here. +1 Scumpoints for Lilac and Kitsunemimi and +2 for Tanz and RB, why? Because they were practically sheeping.Votecount wrote:
No lynch (6) - Sakura, Kitsunemimi, Rantai, Lilac, Tanzklaue, Raging Bull
Nice catch for the NL wagon by farto. +1 Townpoints. Royston reasons was quite silly as scum would let a townie hammer and then incriminating him, in case RB is town, but he has a bit of reason when he states:Votecount wrote:
Raging Bull (4) - fartownik, Tanzklaue, Royston, Lilac (L-1)
Royston wrote:
But the fact that RB didn't get quickhammered shows something, at least.
fart and Tanz fishing in inactive pool, really? It's true Kanye's behaviour was like this in DotA, but also was similar in High School (though he posted a bit more) and was town there, so judging by meta is not always the way to go.Votecount wrote:
Kanye West (3) - fartownik, Lilac, Tanzklaue (L - 2)
your weeks seem to consist only of weekends then. you had like 5 posts after the issue settled sown. and 4 of them were fluff or otherwise unhelpful.BRBP wrote:
I'm less active on weekends. Why didn't you prod me then?Kitsunemimi wrote:
One last thing, I noticed that after the case on BRBP was settled, he almost completely stopped posting. As of this post, he hasn't said anything for nearly 2 days...
Tanzklaue wrote:
slip oneRoyston wrote:
Hah, well some of us are.
You two... Stop.Jinxy wrote:
Remaining scum, you say? Interesting choice of words there.Royston wrote:
@Jinxy since you're voting me, who do you think the remaining scum are?
you get quite aggressive there. where are your reasons for that?BRBP wrote:
No, it's not intresting in any way. You bothering to point something like that out and calling it a slip on the other hand is quite interesting.Tanzklaue wrote:
the point of a slip is that it's unintentional.
I also don't think that it's a strong enough slip to vote, but it still is quite interesting.
Or maybe not, it's your job to lynch townies :/
you as a finn might not understand, but outside of the cold north, you actually have things like 35 °C days in summer with 25 °C nights, humid as fuck aswell. I couldn't be bothered to write a long explanation if it's not incredibly necessary.BRBP wrote:
What the fuck?Tanzklaue wrote:
I'm sorry, it's hot as shit over here and I didn't feel like giving much of a reasoning.
you seem so confident in me being scum, and your accusations are quite ridiculous tbh. you shouldn't forget that you aren't a confirmed townie, and that you actually need a foundation yourself in order to proof your townieness. passive aggressive accusations won't help you one bit.BRBP wrote:
I guess you're taking your votes off Dake now? After all your primary reason to vote Kanye was because of his inactivity and lack of content in posts (Tanz), maybe Dake can fix that. Kanye wasn't active on his own game either, makes it easier to believe he really was busy. Let's see what you can come up with~
no scum would be so dumb and reveal 2 of their members. the fact that he didn't got quickhammered says next to nothing about the wagonmembers.DakeDekaane wrote:
In D1:This was before pieguy confirmed BRBP's action. Due to confusion was quite easy to scum lynch him at this rate, smart scum would had finished the day and let the town quite lost, but the fact is that there were at least 2 scum voting there, as BRBP didn't get hammered. +1 Scumpoints to everyone here.Votecount wrote:
BRBP (5) - Lilac, Jinxy, Raging Bull, Tanzklaue, Kitsunemimi (L-2)
Though Kitsunemimi bringed up the NL idea and still doubting if it would be a good idea, scum took advantage from a confirmed town (Sakura) starting the wagon and some other townies, (Rantai) to join here. +1 Scumpoints for Lilac and Kitsunemimi and +2 for Tanz and RB, why? Because they were practically sheeping.[/quote]Votecount wrote:
No lynch (6) - Sakura, Kitsunemimi, Rantai, Lilac, Tanzklaue, Raging Bull
again, scum wouldn't show themselves, at least not this early. a quickhammer would only really occur if a) scum gets voted and the player at L-1 votes himself or b) if you are at LYLO or MyLo and scum would instawin. yet another fallacious argument, they add up by now.DakeDekaane wrote:
In D2:Nice catch for the NL wagon by farto. +1 Townpoints. Royston reasons was quite silly as scum would let a townie hammer and then incriminating him, in case RB is town, but he has a bit of reason when he states:Votecount wrote:
Raging Bull (4) - fartownik, Tanzklaue, Royston, Lilac (L-1)Royston wrote:
But the fact that RB didn't get quickhammered shows something, at least.
scum gunsmith is about as likely as scum dayvig. and like ten times more useless.DakeDekaane wrote:
If you think RB doesn't want me lynched then vote him, or it's that you don't want him lynched? Adding that Gunsmith doesn't confirm you as town, as scum Gunsmith would still scan for Cop, Vig and PGO.
we already established that the newbie factor shouldn't count too heavily. we can't risk getting demolished by a guy who just plays pretend with us.DakeDekaane wrote:
And Royston in a small amount due sheeping Lilac on unvoting RB, but due the newbie factor I can't get if it's a confused townie or shy scum.
DakeDekaane wrote:
Also you said something about a SK, I don't deny the possibility, as there's the case that Kitsunemimi brings bad luck visiting other people instead getting visited. But I know you won't even like the idea of try to check it as scum would screw the with the possible plans, but these are only ideas of mine, so don't mind too much in this for now (unless we have another death due bad luck).
You won't win this time for sure, town will win.Tanzklaue wrote:
ROUND 2!
whatRoyston wrote:
Yeah ok it doesn't show anything. It was 1AM when I posted that sorry
I disagree here. Firstly, the Scum Dayvig is unlikely because of how overpowered it can be; it practically gives another free kill for scum, hastening LyLo. On the other hand, as Dake has said, a Scum Gunsmith can still scan for Cops or Vigs. (Not PGO because you're dead anyway)Tanzklaue wrote:
scum gunsmith is about as likely as scum dayvig. and like ten times more useless.DakeDekaane wrote:
If you think RB doesn't want me lynched then vote him, or it's that you don't want him lynched? Adding that Gunsmith doesn't confirm you as town, as scum Gunsmith would still scan for Cop, Vig and PGO.
also, if I were a scum gunsmith, why would I claim something like gunsmith? wouldn't it be smarter to claim something that is harder to control? I also got roleblocked this night, so someone must've thought that I am dangerous to them. hint: it was most likely not a townie.
Secondly, you might claim town gunsmith as scum simply because you decided not to take the risk and fakeclaim something others might really be. I'm not sure what you mean by "control", though. Could you elaborate?Wiki wrote:
While a few moderators prefer to defy meta and use Mafia Vigilantes to allow multiple scumkills from a single faction, the vast majority of Vigilantes are Town.
Gunsmiths are usually, but not necessarily, pro-Town.
let me summarize your last 10 posts or so.BRBP wrote:
You didn't say anything useful/helpful here, all you did was show us that you take mafia games too personally.Tanzklaue wrote:
ROUND 1
what do you even mean with this? that town lost day 1? that I won day 1?DakeDekaane wrote:
You won't win this time for sure, town will win.Tanzklaue wrote:
ROUND 2!
like I already said, agreed up to this point.DakeDekaane wrote:
You were pretty eager for the scum dayvig possibility even being small, but scum gunsmith is clearly more possible if you ask me and it's a safe claim
if these townies believe that I could be useful, then they will believe me saying that I got roleblocked aswell and that I am essentially useless because I either get killed or roleblocked again. while voting for behaviour is fine, you actually didn't really pointed out my behaviour all that much. if anything, you basically said "while person x does the same thing, I will go for tanz, because.". you pointed the jumping around out, and said that lilac had foundations in their jumping around, which if you read the last few pages could be viewed differently. the whole NL thing, if you wonder what I mean.DakeDekaane wrote:
because maybe some townies think you may be useful to find scum, but I'm not that naive. I prefer voting based on acting regardless of PR, though it's not that easy to fakeclaim in a flavored game, but maybe you got lucky.
I kept my vote on you since your reasoning didn't change my opinion all that much. I still think that you are scum. I have other suspects, but I won't let you go when you are that scummy.DakeDekaane wrote:
And you'll keep your vote on me because I'm voting you or because you don't have other suspect? You should have.
one messed up quote (2 if you count my post to BRBP aswell) are hardly convincing for something like "scumnervousness". that's one of the many terms in the mafiajargon that basically mean nothing and are just there to make a point look more valid. things like OMGUS and to some extent Wifom fall under the same category.DakeDekaane wrote:
Sorry but there won't be quotefest, Tanz's are messed up and I won't fix it in a nice way, also scum nervousness is notorious.
sure.DakeDekaane wrote:
Maybe I'll have to ask for your reads to make things clearer?