I find it funny how you pop out of nowhere and just jumped on my bandwagon without any justified reasoning for the vote.
slip oneRoyston wrote:
Hah, well some of us are.Kitsunemimi wrote:
You say that like we're aware of who's town and who's not.
slip 2. there was no reason to assume that there would be a no lynch today.Royston wrote:
Yes, if we get scum. I'd much prefer a mislynch over no lynch, at least we gain info that way. We're already in a bad spot, we can't afford to play it safe.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Also, are you saying you're okay with risking a mislynch while we're already 3 down?
Some of the players in this game have innately shakey reasoning, even if they might turn out to be town, such as BRBP and Tanz (though we don't know if Tanz is scum or not). It's because of this that I really simply don't trust them to not hammer, even if they may be town. In other words, the person to throw down the hammer is ambiguous.Royston wrote:
Sure, but if someone decided to hammer so early in the day then it's a safe bet they're not town; unless the player lynched is scum, of course.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Anyone could've went in saying "oh hurr yeah I think he's scum too"
Stating a hypothetical situation where RB flipped town from a quickhammer where there wasn't enough evidence. Which would be incredibly stupid, especially given my above point which states that the person who hammers isn't guaranteed to be scum.Royston wrote:
I'm not clear on what you mean by this.Kitsunemimi wrote:
and it turns out that everyone's completely wrong because you put on too many votes on RB before he could even say anything.
I don't know about you, but I don't think I would be that okay with a mislynch at this stage. I would be okay if we lynched scum, and only scum. You even said it yourself, we're in a pretty bad situation right now, but then suddenly your reasoning falls apart and you say we can't afford to play it safe? I'm not even sure if that makes sense? Usually when you're in situations where you can't really mess up, that's when you try to play safely, so you make it out okay...?Royston wrote:
Yes, if we get scum. I'd much prefer a mislynch over no lynch, at least we gain info that way. We're already in a bad spot, we can't afford to play it safe.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Also, are you saying you're okay with risking a mislynch while we're already 3 down?
He's implying the mafia knows.Tanzklaue wrote:
slip one.Royston wrote:
(You say that like we're aware of who's town and who's not.) (kitsune)
Hah, well some of us are.
the point of a slip is that it's unintentional.Kitsunemimi wrote:
He's implying the mafia knows.Tanzklaue wrote:
slip one.
He's not implying that he is mafia. (would be too obvious for me to consider as scumslip)
He could be implying that he is Mason.
I might not have mentioned it explicitly but the implication was more than obvious.Raging Bull wrote:
My internet sucks too.
No, you did no such thing of mentioning Kanye lynch is better than Tanz. You mentioned how you rather lynch than no lynch.
You had approx 6 hours from the time you mentioned no lynch is bad and when you voted NL and within that time, BRBP, Tanz, Rantai, and I were online. That is plenty of opportunity.
No, there was only one town dead in D1 and that was NH. What are you even saying?
Why are you contradicting yourself a lot now?
Um yeah, I'm implying the mafia knows. Unless there's something weird like a traitor going on, but I doubt it.Tanzklaue wrote:
the point of a slip is that it's unintentional.Kitsunemimi wrote:
He's implying the mafia knows.
He's not implying that he is mafia. (would be too obvious for me to consider as scumslip)
He could be implying that he is Mason.
I also don't think that it's a strong enough slip to vote, but it still is quite interesting.
@royston: who do you think is scum and why?
Some of the players in this game have innately shakey reasoning, even if they might turn out to be town, such as BRBP and Tanz (though we don't know if Tanz is scum or not). It's because of this that I really simply don't trust them to not hammer, even if they may be town.Sure, fair enough.
Correct, I didn't have any reasoning. Frankly I still have a null read on you, the vote wasRaging Bull wrote:
I find it funny how you pop out of nowhere and just jumped on my bandwagon without any justified reasoning for the vote.
What? I don't understand. My interpretation of what you said is "town would have no reason to assume a no lynch, but you did, hence you're mafia" ? But why would mafia assume a no lynch? If that's not what you meant, I apologize.Tanzklaue wrote:
slip 2. there was no reason to assume that there would be a no lynch today.
The implication was vague. You just wanted a lynch, you probably didn't even care who it was. The implication was just that. You just wanted a lynch.Lilac wrote:
I might not have mentioned it explicitly but the implication was more than obvious.
Out of the 6 hours, 4 of that was lectures and about an hour was in transit to get home. I can't come up with scum hunting on the fly like that without it being utterly terrible.
I'm not talking about D1. I'm talking about right now.
The hell was anything contradicting? Also, you need to make your next post completely wisely because I've breadcrumbed a lot of things that you should have picked up and realised by now. There was one part especially for you RB but to be honest, I think you're going to waste it.
Posted: 2 days agoChrist. Prod: Kanye West for the third fucking time
I'm personally up for lynching scummy people than inactives who are assumed to be scummy due to only meta, so Vote: RoystonRoyston wrote:
Frankly I still have a null read on you, the vote wasa reaction testsimply for pressure.
there is. if you get prodded 3 times, you technically get auto replaced.Jinxy wrote:
Posted: 2 days agoChrist. Prod: Kanye West for the third fucking time
Is there a "3 Prods and you're out" rule
There should be a rule like that
What's the difference between a 'relative sure misslynch' and a 'potential scumlynch'? Either someone's scum, or they're not. What makes you say RB's a relative sure misslynch, anyway?Tanzklaue wrote:
I also find royston decently fishy. his reasoning of how he would prefer misslynching over NL when there is no indicator for NL at all is out of place, and his openly admitted acceptance of risking to lynch someone he doesn't even have a nullread is downright scummy. you should never take a relative sure misslynch over potential scumlynches.
Yeah, it may have been a poor decision on my part. But the fact that RB didn't get quickhammered shows something, at least.fratownik wrote:
He might not admit that, but I think voting RB in such advanced way was just a newbie slip.
Remaining scum, you say? Interesting choice of words there.Royston wrote:
@Jinxy since you're voting me, who do you think the remaining scum are?
Another thing I don't like is the "newbie" argument, which also works on unfounded assumptions. iirc, NH or someone pulled that argument in some other forum and steamrolled that game because the other players fell for it.fartownik wrote:
He might not admit that, but I think voting RB in such advanced way was just a newbie slip. Not seeing it is scummy.
Explain, what kind of "something"?Royston wrote:
Yeah, it may have been a poor decision on my part. But the fact that RB didn't get quickhammered shows something, at least.
I had to read over this topic and stumble across this, said before he got his role. It's not enough to make me take my vote off him but damn, it's making me reconsider.Kanye West wrote:
BMin can have my spot if he wants. I'm lazy to play mafia while hosting anyway
Alright, I don't feel as bad now.pieguy wrote:
Please, don't join if you won't be able to be active > <
Still could be possibly scummy, trying to make debates/look like he's scumhunting without looking like he just want to get someone lynched? We'll see.fartownik wrote:
I don't like 1on1 discussions like this because they usually turn out being a Town vs Town fights
Royston's recent posts have been making me feel more and more like he's scum. Like... rrgh I don't really know how to explain myself actually. By now, with the exception of Kanye, Royston is far behind in postcount from everyone else. His posts seem to be lacking in content as well. I don't know if he's just playing this game half-assedly, or perhaps he's mafia, and his inexperience is making it hard for him to come up with anything. Though, imo if it's your first game, you'd probably try to make a decent effort right? Because it helps you learn better. Jinxy also brings up a good point on himfartownik wrote:
And if there's a Doctor - you possibly ruined the game for Town.
fart proposes that it could be a newbie error... But even if that's so, he could still be mafia and it would still count as a noob error: his vote made himself suspicious without him realizing it. Also,Jinxy wrote:
He basically admitted that he put RB on L-1 for "pressure" (which as I've said, is a weak reason) while not actually thinking he's scum.
I don't want to pick on Royston just because he's new, but he literally used this as a free escape from his error.Royston wrote:
Yeah, it may have been a poor decision on my part. But the fact that RB didn't get quickhammered shows something, at least.fartownik wrote:
He might not admit that, but I think voting RB in such advanced way was just a newbie slip.
BRBP wrote:
I don't think it shows anything, actually...Royston wrote:
Yeah, it may have been a poor decision on my part. But the fact that RB didn't get quickhammered shows something, at least.
Yeah ok it doesn't show anything. It was 1AM when I posted that sorryJinxy wrote:
Explain, what kind of "something"?
I've done plenty of reaction tests to establish my reads. If I expected such reaction from the player then I mark him as Town (for now), because it's more likely he's Town than scum by this reaction, and if we can't really base on the lynches/kills this is the way to play the game.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Something I noticed about fart's targeting is that he seems to always suddenly find someone to focus on, and then after a short exchange, he'd let them off and be like "well okay, your reasoning seems town so it's fiiiiine". Which is normal, but he pretty much did that for everyone he suspected. However, he did mention something that explains his actions pretty well:Still could be possibly scummy, trying to make debates/look like he's scumhunting without looking like he just want to get someone lynched? We'll see.fartownik wrote:
I don't like 1on1 discussions like this because they usually turn out being a Town vs Town fights
The Doctor didn't protect Sakura - Sakura died. The most powerful role in the game died because the Doctor misread her/done something totally random. Congrats.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Oh, also, I wanted to ask you what this was about:fartownik wrote:
And if there's a Doctor - you possibly ruined the game for Town.
This was before pieguy confirmed BRBP's action. Due to confusion was quite easy to scum lynch him at this rate, smart scum would had finished the day and let the town quite lost, but the fact is that there were at least 2 scum voting there, as BRBP didn't get hammered. +1 Scumpoints to everyone here.Votecount wrote:
BRBP (5) - Lilac, Jinxy, Raging Bull, Tanzklaue, Kitsunemimi (L-2)
Though Kitsunemimi bringed up the NL idea and still doubting if it would be a good idea, scum took advantage from a confirmed town (Sakura) starting the wagon and some other townies, (Rantai) to join here. +1 Scumpoints for Lilac and Kitsunemimi and +2 for Tanz and RB, why? Because they were practically sheeping.Votecount wrote:
No lynch (6) - Sakura, Kitsunemimi, Rantai, Lilac, Tanzklaue, Raging Bull
Nice catch for the NL wagon by farto. +1 Townpoints. Royston reasons was quite silly as scum would let a townie hammer and then incriminating him, in case RB is town, but he has a bit of reason when he states:Votecount wrote:
Raging Bull (4) - fartownik, Tanzklaue, Royston, Lilac (L-1)
Royston wrote:
But the fact that RB didn't get quickhammered shows something, at least.
fart and Tanz fishing in inactive pool, really? It's true Kanye's behaviour was like this in DotA, but also was similar in High School (though he posted a bit more) and was town there, so judging by meta is not always the way to go.Votecount wrote:
Kanye West (3) - fartownik, Lilac, Tanzklaue (L - 2)