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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 2:15:25 PM

Artist: VerseQuence
Title: Wilt
Source: VOEZ
Tags: low bpm cute flower arphimigon avieri rayark inc mjq eri verse quence
BPM: 140
Filesize: 7592kb
Play Time: 02:58
Difficulties Available:
  1. Arphimigon's Hard (3.24 stars, 414 notes)
  2. Normal (1.8 stars, 309 notes)
  3. Rose (4.01 stars, 506 notes)


Download: VerseQuence - Wilt
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NHI set.

Hard-ish thing by Arphi!
posted
Hello! Let me mod some.

General:
I guess you can add in tags album name, genre, MJQ, Avieri, Rayark Inc (last 3 it's compouser, vocal and developer)

Why Arphi didn't used same combocolours like in other diffs?

Rose:
00:06:838 - in this part you can follow keysounds with whistles, cuz in next parts u doing it.
00:31:481 (2,3) - guess you can rise spacing some to emphaze clap on 3. Previously you used harder space on this clap
02:33:839 (2) - mby place slider here? Skipping this tick 02:34:053 - sounds rly weird. it was the first thing abt im thing while first check.
02:40:696 (2) - same thing
02:50:981 (2,3) - it's really overspaced D:

Arphi's hard:

First thing which i wanna say: SV looks rly disproportionately in parts like kiais. It douesnt equal to distance of snapping and dont realize impact which give high sv.
00:13:696 (1,2,3) - You can choose better rythmic way. You used 1\4, tripples, but skip 1\2 beats. Its weird sometimes. So try recheck whole parts: 00:13:696 - 01:22:267 - 02:30:839 - Hard to understand what u following.

Other looks good. Im only not sure 00:25:696 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - is it vailable to snap 1\1 and 1\4 in same distance in hard difficults.


Normal looks good for me. DOnt find any issuses.

Best of luck o/
posted
I'm pretty much solely focusing on only vocals at all times, and when they don't exist only then do I ever map instruments. It provides nice transitions between parts of the music whilst always keeping the listener focused on what I believe is the most important thing, the voice. That would be why all the said rhythm choices are made.

Not sure how to interpret your SV comment though since I don't see the problem with it D:

About combo colours, I'm not really one with putting reds on this kinda music so ALL BLUES

https://puu.sh/xnXDf/9f3b935613.osu smol update
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posted
[Rose]
00:29:981 (3,4) - why is this different to 00:43:696 (3) - ? it's the same thing to me

01:08:981 (2) - slider ends on a stronger sound

01:36:839 (3,4,5) - awkward angle

01:42:196 (6,7) - 6 is stronger than 7 but given the same emphasis, should give 6 more spacing

02:33:196 (4) - why is this object given such a small emphasis I'd suggest you make a triangle out of 02:32:767 (2,3,4) -

[Arphi's Hard]
I think this difficulty could use more 1/2 rhythms (especially 1/2 sliders), there are just so many big gaps throughout the map. There are a lot of places that 1/2 sliders will accomplish the same thing but with more fun flow and more continuous (filler rhythm). Right now you skip a lot of bass sound that is very noticeable. And I mean the Hard guideline says mostly 1/2 rhythms as well. This is more like a mix of normal.

00:24:410 (2,3,4) - I think going back on the 00:25:267 (4) - is not a good idea, it might confuse the player


[Normal]
00:13:481 (7,1) - why not stack these two? to make it all visually similar for 1/2 rhythms on this combo as the consecutive 1/2 are already pushing the Normal player hard enough.

01:22:267 (1,2) - I think a 1/2 slider with reverse arrow fits here better

01:23:124 (3) - why not make this 1/1 slider to keep the gap at constant 1/1 throughout the section? atm it feels really empty..... same applies for the similar section in the second half
posted
as per m4m in your queue

Normal
  1. 00:28:267 (2,3) - Make a repeat? Just like 00:31:696 (2) - . It does fit better than a slider and circle
  2. 00:34:267 (1) - 00:34:267 (1) - For some reason, this is a bit confusing, and a bit underemphasized. It's because this beat is on the downbeat, in addition to you stacking while the visuals seemed so close for me. Or maybe I usually a bit of a high DS on my normals. Anyways, I think stacking the downbeat circle while it was NCed is a bad idea.
  3. 00:46:267 (3) - Drag it a little bit to the right so the movement would look natural (also the gameplay as well)
  4. 00:47:124 (4,1) - Add a circle between? You did it before so doing it again would expect the players to actually read the same rhythm again
  5. 01:15:410 (1) - Delete the white node? felt a bit unnatural from my pov
  6. 01:59:981 (1,2,3,4) - haHAA woah man (might be a bit confusing btw)

    to be frank, there's a few same problems i want to address, but it felt too repetitive. so w/ever
Arphi's Hard
  1. 00:18:839 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - Looks a bit unexpected mmmmMMMM. It might confuse new players playing hard
  2. 00:25:696 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - ^
  3. 00:33:196 (7,10) - Not sure stacking is a good idea. I think not stacking 00:33:839 (10) - would play better I guess
  4. 00:39:839 (5,6,7) - Try make a pattern out of it?
  5. 01:45:410 (6) - Straighten this out. It'll look better
  6. 01:49:267 (7) - ctrl+j?

    hmm, objectively i guess it's clean, although this style is not my preference.
last diff
  1. 01:40:481 (4) - Space this a bit further, and also increase spacing between 01:40:481 (4,5) - to reflect the piano


Sorry I can't find more, because the set is already polished as is. Most these are just subjective which does not hinder from the original, and point picking them more would actually change the base structure you already built. very well done on this set (I'll mod the next set soon uhh, yeah)
posted
timemon
I think this difficulty could use more 1/2 rhythms (especially 1/2 sliders), there are just so many big gaps throughout the map. There are a lot of places that 1/2 sliders will accomplish the same thing but with more fun flow and more continuous (filler rhythm). Right now you skip a lot of bass sound that is very noticeable. And I mean the Hard guideline says mostly 1/2 rhythms as well. This is more like a mix of normal.
If I agreed with this, I wouldn't have mapped it like I have in the first place. This is a calm song, just because it's a harder difficulty doesn't excuse that for me.

00:24:410 (2,3,4) - I think going back on the 00:25:267 (4) - is not a good idea, it might confuse the player This isn't confusing at all!
Underdogs
  1. 00:18:839 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - Looks a bit unexpected mmmmMMMM. It might confuse new players playing hard This map doesn't do many "hard-like" things, it's not even really a hard, it's just the SR put it that way.
  2. 00:33:196 (7,10) - Not sure stacking is a good idea. I think not stacking 00:33:839 (10) - would play better I guess ...why isn't it a good idea?
  3. 00:39:839 (5,6,7) - Try make a pattern out of it? This is a pattern to me
  4. 01:45:410 (6) - Straighten this out. It'll look better Not sure what you meant by that, but I fixed the stack
  5. 01:49:267 (7) - ctrl+j? Dont like it
https://puu.sh/xvunT/34c4cb7765.osu n
posted
hihihi
doing just one mod bcuz quality > quantity i'm obviously not lazy
This song is absolutely beautiful. Nice musical taste mommamir

[General]
  1. idk if you can just cut the "・" for the romanized slot. ask somebody for confirmation is probably the best choice here
  2. quick train of thought: color haxing in this set would be wonderful: Light blue and teal for the verses and the pink ones for the chorus for some contrast with the bg.
  3. countdown checked *TRIGGERED*
  4. this does nothing but uncheck widescreen support on all diffs cuz why not


[Normal]
  1. AR 5 is a bit too fast for the easiest diff and 140 bpm imo even with those 1/2s. I recommend going for 4.5.
  2. Aesthetically lacking, but all normals are so idk
  3. ^ improve that by adding symmetrical/geometrical stuff. It's cheap and generic i know but it works so who cares /shrug
  4. 00:13:696 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This huuuuge chunk right here is as dense as the kiais, which is a problem. Difficulty curve of this diff is very nice if you leave out this part. Compare this with identical parts like 01:22:267 (1,2,3) - 02:30:839 (1,2,3) - and you'll see a bigger problem xd. rn this part is waaay too dense.
  5. 00:34:053 (5) - delete this. ref: 00:47:124 (4,1) - 01:41:981 (4,1) - 01:55:696 (4,1) - etc
  6. 00:34:267 (1) - 00:47:981 (1) - 01:42:839 (1) - etc. imo these vocals in particular really stand out because of how they're sung with wavy pitches (kinda), so mapping these with sliders to emphasize them should be better.
  7. 00:35:553 (4,5) - no overlapping is better. This is probably the only 1/1 gap notes that overlap each other. Keeping 1/2 = overlap trend stable for readability is probably a better choice
  8. 00:56:553 (4,5) - 1/1 slider and a circle works better because of the long vocal. Also consistency 01:10:267 (4) - 02:05:124 (4) - 02:18:839 (4) -
  9. 01:08:553 (1) - missing finish on the head. applies to all diffs
  10. 01:33:409 (3) - nice ds << i bet you ran out of space
  11. 02:31:696 (3) - 02:33:410 (3) - 02:35:124 (3) - etc. idk man your intention is clear but imo they don't really fit with the rest of the map. It has all been nothing but distance snapped notes then suddenly oops increased spacing.


[Arphi's]
  1. for some reason this diff is nostalgic af <3. I miss maps like this
  2. 00:20:553 (1) - a bit too big imo. This is prolly the biggest jump with no slider leniency to support it and thus should be in the kiai not here
  3. 01:08:553 (1) - head is missing a finish
  4. 01:47:553 (4,5,6,7) - imo this 00:38:981 (4,5,6,7,1) - rhythm works better because every vocal is clickable and you seem to be following the vocals a lot.
    Nevertheless stick with one rhythm for consistency pls
  5. 02:02:767 (7,8,9) - imo pointing this downwards is better cuz it keeps the momentum coming from (6) and changes it into circular momentum going towards 02:03:195 (10) - or if you want some back-and-forth action to emphasize 02:03:410 (1) - this flows better


[Rose]
  1. 00:09:410 (4) - too huge for a slow part
  2. 00:25:696 (1) - should be bigger for consistency. ref: 00:15:196 (4,1) - 00:16:910 (5,1) - 00:18:624 (4,1) - and so on
  3. 00:32:124 (5) - shouldn't have a jump cuz you're focusing on the snares and the kicks or maybe it should be smaller. (judging from 00:33:410 (3) - (snare), 00:33:624 (4) - (kick), 00:33:839 (5) - (piano))
  4. what is the difference between 00:29:981 (3,4) - 01:38:553 (3,4) - and 00:43:696 (3,4) - 01:52:267 (3,4) - ? why are the former ones mapped with two 1/2 sliders and the latter ones mapped with 1/1 gaps?
  5. 00:29:124 (1,2,3,4) - idk why you break the jumps on kicks and snares here.
  6. at this point i have a feeling that you decided to jump on the snares and the kicks half way through mapping this part.
  7. 00:45:410 (3,4,5) - add some acceleration here. ref : 00:28:267 (3,4,5) - 00:31:696 (3,4,5) - 00:35:124 (3,4,5) - 00:41:981 (3,4,5) - 00:48:839 (3,4,5) -
  8. 01:14:981 (6) - change this to a circle pls. The 1/1 gaps are p iconic. ref: 01:01:267 (6,1) - 02:09:839 (6,1) - 02:23:553 (7,1) -
  9. 01:04:910 (6) - delete this for the same reason as ^
  10. 01:01:696 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - can you make the rhythm similar here? imo variation does not fit at all here because the vocal is repeating. imo the ideal pattern would be the same pattern and rhythm repeating 3 times but that's too much to ask i guess xd.
  11. 01:15:410 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - ^
  12. 02:10:267 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - ^
  13. 02:23:981 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - ^
  14. 01:42:196 (6) - should be bigger. ref:00:33:624 (4,5) - 00:47:339 (4,5) - 01:55:696 (3,4) -


k that's all
excellent hitsounding btw <3 lovely hs
gl~
posted
"CrystilonZ"
[Arphi's]
  1. for some reason this diff is nostalgic af <3. I miss maps like this
  2. 00:20:553 (1) - a bit too big imo. This is prolly the biggest jump with no slider leniency to support it and thus should be in the kiai not here there are actually a bunch more that I put in because of some logic I had in my head that kinda forced me to do it but LETS FIXXXXX
  3. 01:08:553 (1) - head is missing a finish tru
  4. 01:47:553 (4,5,6,7) - imo this 00:38:981 (4,5,6,7,1) - rhythm works better because every vocal is clickable and you seem to be following the vocals a lot. Cant tell if I messed up by patterning/flow style a lot in fixing this but DONE
  5. 02:02:767 (7,8,9) - imo pointing this downwards is better cuz it keeps the momentum coming from (6) and changes it into circular momentum going towards 02:03:195 (10) - or if you want some back-and-forth action to emphasize 02:03:410 (1) - this flows better I don't notice any sorta reasonable difference so no thanks ;w;
https://puu.sh/xvyO4/1c3457bcef.osu inb4 someone else posts while I post this mod response and I look silly nope safe
posted
hi m4m #2

only the normal has widescreen support enabled (dunno if that needs to be consistent but imma point it out anyway lel)
also you've got countdown enabled

rose
00:27:196 (7) - sound is pretty strong, bigger spacing would be nice
00:33:196 (2,3) - spacing here feels overdone compared to everything else in this part, especially since 00:40:053 (2,3) - these are the same sounds but have much smaller spacing
01:07:910 (5,6,7) - bigger spacing would be nice, like 01:21:624 (4,5,6)
02:49:696 (1) - this slider is kinda ugly, why don't you copy-paste one of the previous s sliders, they look better
02:51:410 (1) - this is stronger than 02:51:196 (3) so the jump to it should be bigger
01:02:124 (3) 01:05:552 (3) etc. - would be a nice touch to ctrl+G these sliders so that they have similar flow with these 01:03:410 (1,2,3,4) patterns since they are the same vocals repeating

hard
00:13:053 (5,6,7) - ar 8 or 7.5 would help reading these triples, idk with ar 7 i had trouble sight reading them properly but it might be just me
02:51:196 - the sound here is too strong to ignore imo especially since u map it here 02:58:267 (1)
rest seems good

normal
00:12:839 (6,7) - u mapped all the other parts that have the same drums like this 00:19:696 (7,8)
00:45:410 (2) - shouldn't it be mapped like this 00:41:981 (2,3) ? you only do it once so it would be inconsistent if it was for variety also rn its mapped the same as 00:47:124 (4) even tho the sounds are pretty different which feels off
01:53:981 (2) - ^
00:47:767 - sounds empty ignoring this drum
01:20:553 (4) - the curve on this slider is barely visible so it just looks like a slightly off straight slider lel
02:31:267 (2,3) - are you allowed to break DS like this in a normal? anyway I'm not a fan of introducing something like this super late in the map but i guess its probably playable for noobies since it's pretty intuitive

good luck!
posted
"TheKoala"
hard
00:13:053 (5,6,7) - ar 8 or 7.5 would help reading these triples, idk with ar 7 i had trouble sight reading them properly but it might be just me It's just you
02:51:196 - the sound here is too strong to ignore imo especially since u map it here 02:58:267 (1) But I'm just mapping the 1/2 sounds really *shrug* I don't really see why to add this 1/2
rest seems good


Use link from last post for map o/
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  • [I]
  1. 00:11:124 (3) - a bit too curved imo
  2. 00:17:124 (1,4) - off stack
  3. 00:31:910 (4,5) - 00:52:481 (4,5) - spacing here is a but overdone imo, since ic ur using larger spacing for the snare sound but here only got the vocal, if ur expressing the high pitch vocal then i still think need to reduced spacing a bit
  4. 01:10:267 (1,2,3) - 01:11:981 (1,2) - hmm larger spacing? cuz rn it seems like 01:09:410 (3,4) - but the sound here is more intense
  5. 02:05:124 (1,2) - larger sapcing for consistent?
  6. 02:22:696 (3,4) - sound here is obviously more intense so i dont think using the same spacing as 02:22:267 (1,2) - is a good idea
  • [H]
  1. 01:07:910 (4,5,6) - 01:21:624 (4,5,6) - slightly off (not perfect straight line)
  2. G
posted
m4m 2
hi
[rose]
  1. 00:27:410 (1) - I think you can increase spacing here because of strong beat
  2. 00:35:981 (1) 00:41:124 (1) - - 00:49:696 (1) - 00:53:124 (1) - same^
  3. 01:01:481 01:16:910 01:18:624 - - - - I think you should put (or delete here 01:03:196 (5) - 01:04:910 (6) ) notes here. For consistency with 01:03:196 (5) - 01:04:910 (6) - and with 2nd kiai


[Hard]
  1. 00:18:410 (4) - maybe NC
  2. 01:13:696 (3,4,5,6,7) - its very uncomfortable for "hard" diff. You can use flow like this 02:22:267 (3,4,5,6,7) -
  3. 02:57:839 (6) - I think 1/2 slider will emphasize better


[Normal]
  1. 00:19:696 - 00:26:553 - etc - I think it should be more dynamic
  2. 02:30:839 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - DS should be consistent if it is easiest diff of the set
posted
Hello
M4M (2)

maybe add Easy diff?
and Yes, why in Arphi''s Hard other colors? it's just a little weird and dark colors are not suitable

[Normal]
01:32:981 (2,3) it is of course obvious that you do decrease the range, starting to do it 01:31:267 (2,3), but may still leave them in the same distance as on 01:29:553 (2,3)? especially when they have piano sounds are identical between 1,2 circles (or i'm just say "it's are close")
02:31:267 (2,3,2,3,2,3,2,3,2,3) I can probably confused, but is on Normal difficulty, the maximum range should be in a size 7-8? But not in a 29,24,24 & 31...
02:38:124 (2,3,2,3,2,3,2,3) like above
02:44:553 (1,2) would be good if it were not for their distance...

[Hard]
00:34:267 (1,2,3) the strange distance that often needs to be for kiai time
00:47:981 (1) move slightly left?
01:29:981 (3) move up for better distance?

sry, if a little mod
posted
Mods

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

  1. 01:07:910 (4,5,6) - 01:21:624 (4,5,6) - slightly off (not perfect straight line) cute

Testo wrote:

  1. 00:18:410 (4) - maybe NC no reason for this
  2. 01:13:696 (3,4,5,6,7) - its very uncomfortable for "hard" diff. You can use flow like this 02:22:267 (3,4,5,6,7) - I find it comfy
  3. 02:57:839 (6) - I think 1/2 slider will emphasize better 1/2 in this end section doesnt fit what I'd like to tap to

CucumberCuc wrote:

00:34:267 (1,2,3) the strange distance that often needs to be for kiai time distance change really isn't that noticable and the 1/1 more than makes up for the DS increase
00:47:981 (1) move slightly left? ya sure, had to adjust some patterning after this also to accomodate
01:29:981 (3) move up for better distance? This is basically impossible to move any further up, 3 pixels lets GO
https://puu.sh/xy1Cw/5e97aba7f5.osu
or alternatively:
Code
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[Metadata]
Title:Wilt
TitleUnicode:Wilt
Artist:Verse Quence (Mjq Eri)
ArtistUnicode:Verse Quence (Mjq・Eri)
Creator:Mir
Version:Arphimigon's Hard
Source:VOEZ
Tags:low bpm cute flower arphimigon
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173,332,132195,1,2,0:2:0:0:
276,271,132410,2,0,P|334:267|378:283,1,100,2|0,3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
450,372,132838,2,0,P|491:283|458:191,1,200,10|0,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
67,107,133696,5,2,3:2:0:0:
173,52,133910,1,2,0:2:0:0:
276,113,134125,2,0,P|334:117|378:101,1,100,2|0,0:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
450,12,134553,2,0,P|491:100|458:192,2,200,10|0|2,0:2|0:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
209,19,135839,5,0,0:2:0:0:
139,90,136053,1,0,3:2:0:0:
165,188,136268,1,10,0:2:0:0:
239,120,136482,1,0,3:2:0:0:
249,119,136589,1,0,3:2:0:0:
259,118,136696,1,8,0:2:0:0:
139,90,136910,1,8,0:2:0:0:
160,302,137124,6,0,P|93:280|61:157,1,200,6|0,3:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
399,220,137981,2,0,P|413:289|323:378,1,200,10|0,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
208,53,138839,2,0,P|261:6|383:40,1,200,2|0,3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
160,301,139696,2,0,P|111:292|74:259,1,100,10|0,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
75,115,140124,2,0,P|123:124|160:157,1,100,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
278,256,140553,6,0,P|317:167|284:75,2,200,2|0|10,3:2|0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
40,284,141839,2,0,P|31:208|46:170,1,100,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
105,88,142267,1,2,3:2:0:0:
220,56,142481,1,0,0:2:0:0:
251,171,142696,1,0,3:2:0:0:
136,203,142910,1,0,3:2:0:0:
227,280,143124,2,0,P|313:266|362:165,1,200,10|0,0:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
140,76,143981,5,2,3:2:0:0:
76,177,144195,1,2,0:2:0:0:
132,283,144410,2,0,P|180:293|228:280,1,100,2|0,0:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
306,190,144838,2,0,P|347:278|313:370,1,200,10|0,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
106,295,145696,5,2,3:2:0:0:
42,194,145910,1,2,0:2:0:0:
98,88,146125,2,0,P|146:77|194:90,1,100,2|0,3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
272,183,146553,2,0,P|313:94|279:2,1,200,10|0,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
77,89,147410,5,2,3:2:0:0:
13,190,147624,1,2,0:2:0:0:
69,296,147839,2,0,P|117:306|165:293,1,100,2|0,0:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
243,203,148267,2,0,P|284:291|250:383,2,200,10|0|2,0:2|0:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
24,104,149553,5,0,0:2:0:0:
95,34,149767,1,0,3:2:0:0:
193,60,149982,1,10,0:2:0:0:
125,134,150196,1,0,3:2:0:0:
124,144,150303,1,0,3:2:0:0:
123,154,150410,1,8,0:2:0:0:
193,60,150624,1,8,0:2:0:0:
346,173,150839,6,0,P|415:180|457:164,1,89.9999972534181,6|0,3:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
506,84,151267,1,2,0:2:0:0:
296,31,151696,1,10,1:3:0:0:
199,223,152124,2,0,P|188:274|197:319,1,89.9999972534181,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
340,260,152553,2,0,P|351:209|342:164,1,89.9999972534181,2|0,3:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
294,76,152981,1,2,3:2:0:0:
119,203,153410,2,0,P|52:169|45:43,1,179.999994506836,10|0,1:3|0:2,0:0:0:0:
294,76,154267,6,0,P|301:139|293:183,1,89.9999972534181,2|0,3:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
258,266,154696,1,2,0:2:0:0:
461,337,155124,1,10,1:3:0:0:
245,356,155553,1,0,0:2:0:0:
137,345,155767,1,0,0:2:0:0:
85,250,155981,1,2,3:2:0:0:
87,242,156410,1,2,0:2:0:0:
89,234,156839,1,10,1:3:0:0:
180,176,157053,1,0,3:2:0:0:
182,168,157160,1,0,3:2:0:0:
184,160,157267,1,10,0:2:0:0:
228,270,157481,1,8,0:2:0:0:
382,174,157696,6,0,P|425:164|469:174,1,89.9999972534181,2|0,3:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
425,273,158124,1,2,0:2:0:0:
256,137,158553,1,10,1:3:0:0:
87,273,158981,2,0,P|40:252|18:217,1,89.9999972534181,0|0,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
81,66,159410,2,0,P|128:87|150:122,1,89.9999972534181,2|0,3:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
170,224,159839,1,2,3:2:0:0:
357,330,160267,2,0,P|440:294|456:193,1,179.999994506836,10|0,1:3|0:2,0:0:0:0:
329,42,161124,6,0,P|265:42|239:53,1,89.9999972534181,2|0,3:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
142,94,161553,1,2,0:2:0:0:
237,287,161981,1,10,1:3:0:0:
21,274,162410,1,0,0:2:0:0:
215,179,162839,1,2,3:2:0:0:
221,175,163267,1,2,0:2:0:0:
227,171,163696,1,10,1:3:0:0:
334,171,163910,1,0,3:2:0:0:
340,167,164017,1,0,3:2:0:0:
346,163,164124,1,10,0:2:0:0:
333,282,164339,1,8,0:2:0:0:
159,330,164553,6,0,P|133:276|139:175,2,139.999995727539,6|0|0,3:2|0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,165839,1,0,0:2:0:0:
353,330,166267,2,0,P|379:276|373:175,2,139.999995727539,2|0|0,0:2|0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,167553,1,0,0:2:0:0:
323,38,167981,6,0,P|255:23|187:39,2,139.999995727539,2|0|0,0:2|0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,169267,1,0,0:2:0:0:
87,192,169696,1,2,0:2:0:0:
173,338,170125,1,0,0:2:0:0:
339,338,170553,1,0,0:2:0:0:
425,192,170981,1,0,0:2:0:0:
339,46,171410,6,0,P|405:22|474:29,2,139.999995727539,0|0|0,0:0|0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,172696,1,0,0:2:0:0:
172,46,173124,2,0,P|106:22|37:29,2,139.999995727539,2|0|0,0:2|0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,174410,1,0,0:2:0:0:
323,346,174839,6,0,P|255:360|187:344,2,139.999995727539,2|0|0,0:2|0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,176125,1,0,0:2:0:0:
87,192,176554,1,2,0:2:0:0:
173,46,176981,1,0,0:2:0:0:
339,46,177411,1,0,0:2:0:0:
425,192,177839,1,0,0:2:0:0:
256,192,178267,5,0,0:2:0:0:


I swear at some point this has gotta be renamed something other than hard
posted
Hi M4M #2

sorry if there are any duplicates in this mod

[Normal]
  1. 02:30:839 (1,2,3) - because this is the lowest diff you should make the spacing on these the same, same for the others after


[Hard]
  1. 00:49:696 - you should have this as a clickable object, its a pretty strong sound (01:58:267 - same for this one)


[Rose]
  1. 00:11:124 (3) - there is no real difference between this one and the others so maybe rotate it so it flows better (same for the others)
  2. 02:40:696 (2,1) - space these out a bit it looks like a 1/2 jump


short mod because everything looks nice already, good luck
posted

NeilPerry wrote:

Hello! Let me mod some.

General:
I guess you can add in tags album name, genre, MJQ, Avieri, Rayark Inc (last 3 it's compouser, vocal and developer)

Why Arphi didn't used same combocolours like in other diffs?

Rose:
00:06:838 - in this part you can follow keysounds with whistles, cuz in next parts u doing it.
00:31:481 (2,3) - guess you can rise spacing some to emphaze clap on 3. Previously you used harder space on this clap
02:33:839 (2) - mby place slider here? Skipping this tick 02:34:053 - sounds rly weird. it was the first thing abt im thing while first check. - mm i think it gives more focus to the melody if i didn't map it so i'd rather not
02:40:696 (2) - same thing
02:50:981 (2,3) - it's really overspaced D:

timemon wrote:

[Rose]
00:29:981 (3,4) - why is this different to 00:43:696 (3) - ? it's the same thing to me - 3 is a lot sharper on the later one so it's not a slider there

01:08:981 (2) - slider ends on a stronger sound - cuz following melody

01:36:839 (3,4,5) - awkward angle - it's a fine angle imo

01:42:196 (6,7) - 6 is stronger than 7 but given the same emphasis, should give 6 more spacing

02:33:196 (4) - why is this object given such a small emphasis I'd suggest you make a triangle out of 02:32:767 (2,3,4) - for contrast with 02:33:196 (4,1) -

[Normal]
00:13:481 (7,1) - why not stack these two? to make it all visually similar for 1/2 rhythms on this combo as the consecutive 1/2 are already pushing the Normal player hard enough.

01:22:267 (1,2) - I think a 1/2 slider with reverse arrow fits here better - i don't think so, i like the empty feeling here same as the below point

01:23:124 (3) - why not make this 1/1 slider to keep the gap at constant 1/1 throughout the section? atm it feels really empty..... same applies for the similar section in the second half

Underdogs wrote:

as per m4m in your queue

Normal
  1. 00:28:267 (2,3) - Make a repeat? Just like 00:31:696 (2) - . It does fit better than a slider and circle - wouldn't do it cuz the vocals don't get as much clickability anymore, i want both clickable so i used this rhythm
  2. 00:34:267 (1) - 00:34:267 (1) - For some reason, this is a bit confusing, and a bit underemphasized. It's because this beat is on the downbeat, in addition to you stacking while the visuals seemed so close for me. Or maybe I usually a bit of a high DS on my normals. Anyways, I think stacking the downbeat circle while it was NCed is a bad idea. - it was inconsistent anyways so i just deleted it
  3. 00:46:267 (3) - Drag it a little bit to the right so the movement would look natural (also the gameplay as well) - I think it flows fine as it is, flow in normals is really lenient cuz it's so slow
  4. 00:47:124 (4,1) - Add a circle between? You did it before so doing it again would expect the players to actually read the same rhythm again
  5. 01:15:410 (1) - Delete the white node? felt a bit unnatural from my pov - i never use straight/angled sliders so i'm keeping this
  6. 01:59:981 (1,2,3,4) - haHAA woah man (might be a bit confusing btw) - im going to push this concept as far as i can

    to be frank, there's a few same problems i want to address, but it felt too repetitive. so w/ever


hmm, objectively i guess it's clean, although this style is not my preference. [/list][/notice][/box]

last diff
  1. 01:40:481 (4) - Space this a bit further, and also increase spacing between 01:40:481 (4,5) - to reflect the piano - i think it already does exactly that


Sorry I can't find more, because the set is already polished as is. Most these are just subjective which does not hinder from the original, and point picking them more would actually change the base structure you already built. very well done on this set (I'll mod the next set soon uhh, yeah)

CrystilonZ wrote:

hihihi
doing just one mod bcuz quality > quantity i'm obviously not lazy
This song is absolutely beautiful. Nice musical taste mommamir

[General]
  1. idk if you can just cut the "・" for the romanized slot. ask somebody for confirmation is probably the best choice here
  2. quick train of thought: color haxing in this set would be wonderful: Light blue and teal for the verses and the pink ones for the chorus for some contrast with the bg. - don't think it's necessary
  3. countdown checked *TRIGGERED* - forgot to remove REEE
  4. this does nothing but uncheck widescreen support on all diffs cuz why not - yeah


[Normal]
  1. AR 5 is a bit too fast for the easiest diff and 140 bpm imo even with those 1/2s. I recommend going for 4.5. - I like that the patterns each appear individually I think that makes it easier for players to read it
  2. Aesthetically lacking, but all normals are so idk - don't care it follows a curved slider only theme so otherwise it would look better lol
  3. ^ improve that by adding symmetrical/geometrical stuff. It's cheap and generic i know but it works so who cares /shrug
  4. 00:13:696 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This huuuuge chunk right here is as dense as the kiais, which is a problem. Difficulty curve of this diff is very nice if you leave out this part. Compare this with identical parts like 01:22:267 (1,2,3) - 02:30:839 (1,2,3) - and you'll see a bigger problem xd. rn this part is waaay too dense.
  5. 00:34:053 (5) - delete this. ref: 00:47:124 (4,1) - 01:41:981 (4,1) - 01:55:696 (4,1) - etc
  6. 00:34:267 (1) - 00:47:981 (1) - 01:42:839 (1) - etc. imo these vocals in particular really stand out because of how they're sung with wavy pitches (kinda), so mapping these with sliders to emphasize them should be better.- I think these are fine as they are, i don't wanna do 1/2 sliders where there isn't a sound on the end to keep density as fitting as i can
  7. 00:35:553 (4,5) - no overlapping is better. This is probably the only 1/1 gap notes that overlap each other. Keeping 1/2 = overlap trend stable for readability is probably a better choice - no sane person would misread this spacing imo, but we'll see
  8. 00:56:553 (4,5) - 1/1 slider and a circle works better because of the long vocal. Also consistency 01:10:267 (4) - 02:05:124 (4) - 02:18:839 (4) -
  9. 01:08:553 (1) - missing finish on the head. applies to all diffs
  10. 01:33:409 (3) - nice ds << i bet you ran out of space
  11. 02:31:696 (3) - 02:33:410 (3) - 02:35:124 (3) - etc. idk man your intention is clear but imo they don't really fit with the rest of the map. It has all been nothing but distance snapped notes then suddenly oops increased spacing. - we'll see, i think it makes sense as it is and i think pushing the limits of normal diff conventions is fine in small portions like this.. though having it at the end is a valid concern, so I will consult with others


[Rose]
  1. 00:09:410 (4) - too huge for a slow part
  2. 00:25:696 (1) - should be bigger for consistency. ref: 00:15:196 (4,1) - 00:16:910 (5,1) - 00:18:624 (4,1) - and so on
  3. 00:32:124 (5) - shouldn't have a jump cuz you're focusing on the snares and the kicks or maybe it should be smaller. (judging from 00:33:410 (3) - (snare), 00:33:624 (4) - (kick), 00:33:839 (5) - (piano))
  4. what is the difference between 00:29:981 (3,4) - 01:38:553 (3,4) - and 00:43:696 (3,4) - 01:52:267 (3,4) - ? why are the former ones mapped with two 1/2 sliders and the latter ones mapped with 1/1 gaps? - there's a subtle sharper tone to these if you compare them so i did a sharper movement + stack
  5. 00:29:124 (1,2,3,4) - idk why you break the jumps on kicks and snares here.
  6. at this point i have a feeling that you decided to jump on the snares and the kicks half way through mapping this part. - it's actually only snares im jumping to with high spacing some might be inconsistent though so i'll look for those
  7. 00:45:410 (3,4,5) - add some acceleration here. ref : 00:28:267 (3,4,5) - 00:31:696 (3,4,5) - 00:35:124 (3,4,5) - 00:41:981 (3,4,5) - 00:48:839 (3,4,5) -
  8. 01:14:981 (6) - change this to a circle pls. The 1/1 gaps are p iconic. ref: 01:01:267 (6,1) - 02:09:839 (6,1) - 02:23:553 (7,1) -
  9. 01:04:910 (6) - delete this for the same reason as ^
  10. 01:01:696 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - can you make the rhythm similar here? imo variation does not fit at all here because the vocal is repeating. imo the ideal pattern would be the same pattern and rhythm repeating 3 times but that's too much to ask i guess xd.
  11. 01:15:410 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - ^
  12. 02:10:267 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - ^
  13. 02:23:981 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - ^ - many carrots, and yes did
  14. 01:42:196 (6) - should be bigger. ref:00:33:624 (4,5) - 00:47:339 (4,5) - 01:55:696 (3,4) -


k that's all
excellent hitsounding btw <3 lovely hs
gl~

TheKoala wrote:

hi m4m #2

only the normal has widescreen support enabled (dunno if that needs to be consistent but imma point it out anyway lel)
also you've got countdown enabled

rose
00:27:196 (7) - sound is pretty strong, bigger spacing would be nice
00:33:196 (2,3) - spacing here feels overdone compared to everything else in this part, especially since 00:40:053 (2,3) - these are the same sounds but have much smaller spacing
01:07:910 (5,6,7) - bigger spacing would be nice, like 01:21:624 (4,5,6)
02:49:696 (1) - this slider is kinda ugly, why don't you copy-paste one of the previous s sliders, they look better
02:51:410 (1) - this is stronger than 02:51:196 (3) so the jump to it should be bigger
01:02:124 (3) 01:05:552 (3) etc. - would be a nice touch to ctrl+G these sliders so that they have similar flow with these 01:03:410 (1,2,3,4) patterns since they are the same vocals repeating - flow is different on those cuz of the added kicks

normal
00:12:839 (6,7) - u mapped all the other parts that have the same drums like this 00:19:696 (7,8)
00:45:410 (2) - shouldn't it be mapped like this 00:41:981 (2,3) ? you only do it once so it would be inconsistent if it was for variety also rn its mapped the same as 00:47:124 (4) even tho the sounds are pretty different which feels off
01:53:981 (2) - ^ - i do it for all of these 00:31:696 (2,4) -
00:47:767 - sounds empty ignoring this drum - done to put more focus on vocals here
01:20:553 (4) - the curve on this slider is barely visible so it just looks like a slightly off straight slider lel
02:31:267 (2,3) - are you allowed to break DS like this in a normal? anyway I'm not a fan of introducing something like this super late in the map but i guess its probably playable for noobies since it's pretty intuitive - ... yeah.. I guess

good luck!

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

  • [I]
  1. 00:11:124 (3) - a bit too curved imo - curved more
  2. 00:17:124 (1,4) - off stack
  3. 00:31:910 (4,5) - 00:52:481 (4,5) - spacing here is a but overdone imo, since ic ur using larger spacing for the snare sound but here only got the vocal, if ur expressing the high pitch vocal then i still think need to reduced spacing a bit
  4. 01:10:267 (1,2,3) - 01:11:981 (1,2) - hmm larger spacing? cuz rn it seems like 01:09:410 (3,4) - but the sound here is more intense - im going for mainly snare emphasis + some vocals here and there so this fits i think
  5. 02:05:124 (1,2) - larger sapcing for consistent?
  6. 02:22:696 (3,4) - sound here is obviously more intense so i dont think using the same spacing as 02:22:267 (1,2) - is a good idea

Testo wrote:

m4m 2
hi
[rose]
  1. 00:27:410 (1) - I think you can increase spacing here because of strong beat
  2. 00:35:981 (1) 00:41:124 (1) - - 00:49:696 (1) - 00:53:124 (1) - same^ - some of these are not that strong so just a 1/1 slider for rhythmic emphasis works for me
  3. 01:01:481 01:16:910 01:18:624 - - - - I think you should put (or delete here 01:03:196 (5) - 01:04:910 (6) ) notes here. For consistency with 01:03:196 (5) - 01:04:910 (6) - and with 2nd kiai


[Normal]
  1. 00:19:696 - 00:26:553 - etc - I think it should be more dynamic - i don't know what you mean by this..
  2. 02:30:839 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - DS should be consistent if it is easiest diff of the set - this is actually a fair point, changing due to this

CucumberCuc wrote:

Hello
M4M (2)

maybe add Easy diff? - unneeded
and Yes, why in Arphi''s Hard other colors? it's just a little weird and dark colors are not suitable

[Normal]
01:32:981 (2,3) it is of course obvious that you do decrease the range, starting to do it 01:31:267 (2,3), but may still leave them in the same distance as on 01:29:553 (2,3)? especially when they have piano sounds are identical between 1,2 circles (or i'm just say "it's are close")
02:31:267 (2,3,2,3,2,3,2,3,2,3) I can probably confused, but is on Normal difficulty, the maximum range should be in a size 7-8? But not in a 29,24,24 & 31...
02:38:124 (2,3,2,3,2,3,2,3) like above
02:44:553 (1,2) would be good if it were not for their distance...

changed the ds stuff prior

Senery wrote:

Hi M4M #2

sorry if there are any duplicates in this mod

[Normal]
  1. 02:30:839 (1,2,3) - because this is the lowest diff you should make the spacing on these the same, same for the others after


[Rose]
  1. 00:11:124 (3) - there is no real difference between this one and the others so maybe rotate it so it flows better (same for the others) - im not sure what you mean here but I think this is fine as it is?
  2. 02:40:696 (2,1) - space these out a bit it looks like a 1/2 jump - players can read the approach circles and the nc with this spacing fine i think


short mod because everything looks nice already, good luck
sry, if a little mod
I got kwanfirmation:



Thank you everyone!
posted
[General]
  1. Inconsistent values :
    Countdown :
    Normal: 0
    Arphimigon's Hard: 1
    Rose: 0
[Normal]
  1. DS problem, error bigger then +-0.05x :
    00:13:267 (7) -
    00:19:481 (5,6) -
    01:07:481 (5,6) -
    01:08:553 (1) -
    01:15:410 (1) -
    01:31:696 (3) -
    02:35:981 (1) -
    02:39:410 (1) -
    02:41:124 (1) -
    02:42:839 (1) -
[Arphimigon's Hard]
  1. Well, I think the SV is a bit fast for Hard diffs, 2.0x is more like for Insane+ diffs. However, change SV is a big deal for the map, and I see you are using CS3.5 (In general, small circle size need faster SV), so there is not a big problem for me, but I don't know the opinion of other BNs.
  2. 00:54:624 (10,1) - The spacing seems too big here, reduce it a little bit? Like 2.0x is enough.
  3. 00:59:552 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 1.2x DS seems too big here. Reduce to 1.0x DS will be better.
  4. 01:22:267 (1,2) - Make a clean blanket.
  5. 01:34:053 (5) - I think you should delete this, since 02:42:624 - (the same rhythm part) you don't have circle.
  6. 02:08:124 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Same as 00:59:552 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
[Rose]
  1. 00:41:124 (1,2) - Make a blanket here?
  2. 00:47:553 (5,6,1) - The spacing of 5 and 6 are bigger then 6 and 1. Well, I think the intensity of 6 and 1 are very close, so how about makes 00:47:553 (5,6,1) - be the same spacing? Just like 00:33:839 (5,6,1) - . It will be more reasonable and comfortable for players.
  3. 01:05:552 (3,4) - In my opinion, pattern like this are very uncomfortable, at least avoid overlap the slider?
  4. 01:42:410 (7,8,1) - 01:49:267 (5,6,1) - The same problem as 00:47:553 (5,6,1) -
  5. 01:48:624 (2,3) - The spacing seems a little big, using 3.0x is enough, like what you done at the previous part 00:40:267 (3) -
  6. 02:23:124 (5,6,7) - Increase the spacing for 7 a little bit? Now 5 6 7 they looks the same, but you know 7 is stronger beat.
I need more opinion about the SV of Hard diffs, but other 2 diffs looks good for me.
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Kencho wrote:

[General]
  1. Inconsistent values :
    Countdown :
    Normal: 0
    Arphimigon's Hard: 1 - i swear i thought i fixed this AA
    Rose: 0
[Normal]
  1. DS problem, error bigger then +-0.05x :
    00:13:267 (7) -
    00:19:481 (5,6) -
    01:07:481 (5,6) -
    01:08:553 (1) -
    01:15:410 (1) -
    01:31:696 (3) -
    02:35:981 (1) -
    02:39:410 (1) -
    02:41:124 (1) -
    02:42:839 (1) -
[Arphimigon's Hard]
  1. Well, I think the SV is a bit fast for Hard diffs, 2.0x is more like for Insane+ diffs. However, change SV is a big deal for the map, and I see you are using CS3.5 (In general, small circle size need faster SV), so there is not a big problem for me, but I don't know the opinion of other BNs.- I see what you mean, I'll try to get other people to give some opinions on this. I myself feel like the sv in the kiai is a tad high but the way it's mapped is to be quite flowy and comfortable with that SV. So maybe it's not as bad, that coupled with the higher CS might actually make it easier than it looks in the editor. That's just what I think.
[Rose]
  1. 00:41:124 (1,2) - Make a blanket here?
  2. 00:47:553 (5,6,1) - The spacing of 5 and 6 are bigger then 6 and 1. Well, I think the intensity of 6 and 1 are very close, so how about makes 00:47:553 (5,6,1) - be the same spacing? Just like 00:33:839 (5,6,1) - . It will be more reasonable and comfortable for players.
  3. 01:05:552 (3,4) - In my opinion, pattern like this are very uncomfortable, at least avoid overlap the slider? - this flow 01:05:552 (3,4) - is quite comfortable here so the overlap isn't a problem, the bpm is also low enough for this 01:05:124 (1,2,3) - not to be a problem and anyone who can dt this probably won't find it problematic either imo that said the overlaps are inconsistent so i removed most of those
  4. 01:42:410 (7,8,1) - 01:49:267 (5,6,1) - The same problem as 00:47:553 (5,6,1) -
  5. 01:48:624 (2,3) - The spacing seems a little big, using 3.0x is enough, like what you done at the previous part 00:40:267 (3) -
  6. 02:23:124 (5,6,7) - Increase the spacing for 7 a little bit? Now 5 6 7 they looks the same, but you know 7 is stronger beat.
I need more opinion about the SV of Hard diffs, but other 2 diffs looks good for me.
All not replied to = fixed.

Some of the Normal things are stacks if I'm not mistaken so I didn't change the DS on those.. probably? I'll message you in-game I'm probably blind or something x.x

@Arphi do update before replying due to change of countdown - though you might have to redl for metadata changes anyways.
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not m4m because I'm cool

General
  1. Shouldn't MJQ and Eri be in the tags? They seem to involved in the creation of the track. Also, just in case I'd add Verse Quence witten with the space to the tags.
  2. We could try to skin sliders to match the blue/red contrast of the BG.
    This way
    [Colours]
    Combo1 : 247,166,166
    Combo2 : 206,255,254
    Combo3 : 202,226,255
    Combo4 : 248,120,139
    SliderBorder : 175,175,250
    SliderTrackOverride : 220,70,70


Normal
  1. Kind of a minor thing, but I'd really appreciat eit if these were identical in terms of the shapes. Basically that'd look like 02:06:839 (1,3) - this. It just makes the style feel more consistent.
  2. 02:16:696 (7) - there was no new combo on a similar pattern in the previous kiai. Probably this one isn't needed either.

    Pretty good. I'd probably try to polish the flow a little by placing slidertails like 00:14:553 (3,4) - further away from the previous point, or making sure 00:51:410 (1) - patterns don't overlap with the score metre, but these are quite minor things.


Arphimigon's Hard
  1. 00:15:410 (5,6) - both (5)'s head and (6) are pretty strong and they both use whistle hitsounds. But for some reason it's only (5) that gets a strong jump. I'd try to space them equally. Here's an example of how you caa do that
    Note: this would apply to all similar patterns.
  2. 00:28:267 (4,7) - 00:43:696 (8) - try to split these into a 1/2 and a 1/1 slider each. This way it'd match the vocals. example
  3. 00:54:624 (10,1) - I'd probably slightly lower the spacing here to ease players into the kiai.
  4. 01:14:553 (7) - could use a small jump to highlight the music and the vocals.
  5. 01:25:696 (1,2) - the angle/transition is pretty sharp here. I recommend making it more linear to fit in with the rest of the part. example
  6. 01:45:410 (6) - try splitting this into a 1/2 slider and a circle. The vocals kinda spike at 01:45:839 - so having this thing clickable would make sense.
    Note: 01:59:124 (6) - same.
  7. 02:58:267 (1) - try to space it more (or less) to highlight the beat with spacing. I feel like having just a new combo on it does not stress it enough.

    I love the kiai. I love the way it feels, I love the way you hear the song. It just feels so natural with the song, makes me wish I could see the whole spread mapped in this style/technique.


Rose
  1. 00:10:910 (2,3) - I feel like these a little too far. Starting the intro with intense makes the rest of the jumps feel bland and monotonous. I'd rather start off with less spaced ones and increase gradually.
  2. 00:19:482 (2) - shouldn't this circle have more spacing to it? As you seem to be following the drum line and the beat here is pretty strong, spacing it this close makes the pattern feel unbalanced.
    Note: this applies to similar patterns like 00:22:267 (1,2) - 00:28:053 (2,1,2,3) - it just continues through the difficulty and I believe that this way of spacing things makes patterns feel unbalanced in terms of spacing emphasis. We end up with some drastic cursor speed changes and sharp jumps, that do not seem to fit that well with the soft sound of the song.
  3. 01:17:124 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - I'd highly recommend using the same rhythm for these two patterns as there is a repetition in the song.
    Note: 02:11:981 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - same here. These two do not sound different at all to me.

    My biggest concern is the way jumps work here. They feel extremely exaggerated and too sudden for a slow-paced song like this one. Take 01:00:624 (3,4) - for example. Generally high overall spacing values require more and more intense jumps to highlight each beat, and this makes coming back to regular spacing values like 01:01:696 (1,2,3) - feek extremely sudden and unnatural.

    I'd probably try to use smaller spacing values to make every transition and pattern feel more flowing/smooth and therefore working with the song in a more natural way as I really don't see the current way of spacing things fitting with the style/mood of the music. though it, of course, could be just me.


I disagree with the way spacing is done for the Rose difficulty but everything else seems pretty reasonable and works well. I do not intend to say that it's wrong, I just want to highlight the fact that I personally don't see it working and I believe that a different approach would've worked a lot better in my opinion.
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