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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on domingo, 25 de marzo de 2018 at 15:33:13

Artist: M2U & NICODE
Title: Myosotis (feat. Guriri & Lucy)
Source: Deemo
Tags: mobile song collection vol. 2 rayark cytus M2UStudio _FlameL MaridiuS Mykaterasu Ayyri
BPM: 160
Filesize: 17508kb
Play Time: 02:21
Difficulties Available:
  1. Ayyri's Muzukashii (3,1 stars, 464 notes)
  2. Ayyri's Oni (4,2 stars, 682 notes)
  3. diuS' Arietta (5,27 stars, 601 notes)
  4. FlameL's Normal (1,91 stars, 217 notes)
  5. Hard (3,36 stars, 335 notes)
  6. Insane (4,49 stars, 483 notes)


Download: M2U & NICODE - Myosotis (feat. Guriri & Lucy)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Per ardua ad astra,
altiora petamus.
Volente Deo, lucete stellae.
#3

~ Magnolia 2nd Story ~

diuS' Arietta by MaridiuS
Insane by me
Hard by me
Normal by Lancer
Muzukashii by Ayyri
Oni by Ayyri
Storyboard by Mykaterasu


Huge thanks to Irre for his help with the wub part and to all people that have contributed to this set, be it via GD, SB or leaving a mod in the forum thread.
posted
apply this before looking at hitsounds, fixed unmuted sliders and few adjustments
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 43510
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 77916,79791,85791,91791,97791,101916,118416,124416,130510
DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 2

[Metadata]
Title:Myosotis
TitleUnicode:Myosotis
Artist:M2U
ArtistUnicode:M2U
Creator:Akareh
Version:ExtradiuS
Source:Deemo
Tags:mobile collection vol. 2 rayark NICODE guriri lucy M2UStudio FlameLancer MaridiuS
BeatmapID:1366373
BeatmapSetID:643513

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6.6
CircleSize:4.5
OverallDifficulty:8.3
ApproachRate:9.2
SliderMultiplier:1.9
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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So basically few things that I'd like to be changed with my maps hitsounding:
I wish these to be all kicks
01:09:197 (2,4,2,4) - whistles intstead snares.
01:08:260 (1,2) - with changing snares into whistles above, I suggest removing snares here on sliderends.

01:23:260 (1,4) - I want these notes to have same hitsound clap on their head like 01:22:697 (3) - does.
01:24:760 (2) - ^
01:30:760 (1) - ^
01:31:885 (1,4) - damn u fked something up
01:35:260 (1,4) - ^
01:37:885 (1,3) - ^


01:23:072 (5,6,2,3) - I want these to be kicks simillar like 01:10:510 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - are done
01:25:603 (3,4) - ^ includes sliderends
01:26:072 (2,3,5,6) - these goes for these also
01:29:072 (2,3) - ^
01:31:509 (1,2,3) -
01:32:072 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^ actually take a look at these patterns, sliderends could also get use of this.
01:35:072 (5,6,2,3) - ^
01:37:603 (3,4) - ^
01:38:072 (2,3,4,5) - ^
01:40:322 (1,2,3) - ^

Maybe I missed some, but seems nice.
posted

MaridiuS wrote:

apply this before looking at hitsounds, fixed unmuted sliders and few adjustments
osu file format v14

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So basically few things that I'd like to be changed with my maps hitsounding:
I wish these to be all kicks
01:09:197 (2,4,2,4) - whistles intstead snares.
01:08:260 (1,2) - with changing snares into whistles above, I suggest removing snares here on sliderends.

01:23:260 (1,4) - I want these notes to have same hitsound clap on their head like 01:22:697 (3) - does.
01:24:760 (2) - ^
01:30:760 (1) - ^
01:31:885 (1,4) - damn u fked something up
01:35:260 (1,4) - ^
01:37:885 (1,3) - ^


01:23:072 (5,6,2,3) - I want these to be kicks simillar like 01:10:510 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - are done
01:25:603 (3,4) - ^ includes sliderends
01:26:072 (2,3,5,6) - these goes for these also
01:29:072 (2,3) - ^
01:31:509 (1,2,3) -
01:32:072 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^ actually take a look at these patterns, sliderends could also get use of this.
01:35:072 (5,6,2,3) - ^
01:37:603 (3,4) - ^
01:38:072 (2,3,4,5) - ^
01:40:322 (1,2,3) - ^

Maybe I missed some, but seems nice.
Applied everything except:
01:30:760 (1) - I can't have the growl and the clap here, I'd also think it would be overkill to have both tbh
posted
General
00:01:510 (1) - Using finish in the opening piano is overdoing it a bit, just use whistle or a different hitsound instead
00:49:885 (2) - Wrong hitsound set used here

Normal
00:01:510 (1) - This slow opening plays identical to the kiai. Use more 2/1 sliders and decrease rhythm to create better contrast between the two.
Adding basic slider velocity change would also help add a bit of contrast between sections. Eg. 0.8x at 00:01:510 (1) -
00:30:010 (3) - Avoid making this slider shape harder than it needs to be, new players are still learning how sliders work. Change this to a simpler shape, it can still have curves and corners, just not like this. (eg. 01:15:010 (2) - is good)
01:18:760 (2,3) - Try and reduce the overlap on the slider body, 3 is kind of covered and hard to read.
01:22:322 (3) - Again, keep slider bodies simple and easy to follow.

Hard
00:28:510 (1) - This slider body overlaps a bit too much and is weird to read, lower it a bit to avoid overlap
00:48:197 (2,3,4,5) - 01:00:197 (2,3,4,5) - Using a consecutive triple + two 1/4 sliders is too difficult for a hard. Combine the sliders to a 4x repeat instead, will be easier. This applies to most of the diff, as there's a lot of these.
00:53:635 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Do not use spacing that varies this much on hard. Spacing should be 90% consistent, and increased only on specific points to emphasise (eg. 00:55:510 (1) - ) This pattern might work if it was distance snapped instead.
01:07:322 (3) - Delete this to simplify rhythm, nothing too important on this.
01:10:510 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is wayyyyy too much for a hard. Use the 4x repeat sliders like I suggested before.
Only issue with wub section here is the issue I mentioned at 00:48:197 (2,3,4,5) - , needs to be applied here.
02:21:010 (4) - This isn't correctly snapped, move it back 1/3 and place the hitsound on the ending.

Insane
A very general thing in a couple places, consecutive 1/4 sliders don't have too much organisation. Eg. 00:24:197 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:00:947 (9,10,11) -
Your map would be much more organised if you used consistent distance between slider bodies. Image is easier to explain, some examples: (Red line = make these same distance apart) https://puu.sh/xRXcu/6f9fda001b.png https://puu.sh/xRXc6/400fc3dcbe.png

00:20:260 (4,5) - You stack circles on a slider tail when they are both 3/4 and 1/2 apart. Change stack leniency to 2 so that they are easier to tell apart quickly.
00:30:010 (1,2,3) - This isn't stacked correctly, this in addition to low SV makes it quite hard to read. Do a manual stack by placing 00:30:853 (2,3) - at 209,216
00:33:385 (2) - 00:39:385 (2) - While you have most vocals on clickable rhythm, these break that pattern. Use 3/4 sliders like the others, or a different rhythm
00:35:260 (1,2,1,2) - These sections are very identical, but you used circles on one and sliders on the next. Use the same rhythm so that they are mapped consistent.
00:38:165 (4,5) - This triple overlaps the slider a lot more than 00:41:822 (6,7,1) - . Move 3,4 upwards a bit so that it's more consistent visually
00:49:135 (9,1) - These could be further apart for emphasis even if it's 1/4 apart. Slider leniency keeps it playable just fine.
00:51:010 (1,2,3) - These three sounds are exactly the same, but you use 3/4, 1/2 and 1/1 sliders on them. Makes more sense to use the same shape for the same sounds. It's also inconsistent with 01:03:010 (1,2,3) - , which only uses 1/2 sliders.
01:14:260 (8,9) - The sounds on the two sliders are quite different, changing rhythm would be better suited. I'd suggest changing 9 to a 3/4 slider or a circle.
01:18:010 (1) - Using a lower SV would contrast the next sliders better
01:30:385 (1,2) - These two sliders should be changed to a 3/4 slider, as there's not much sound on the second slider + the music is just one wub. Making 01:30:385 (1) - a circle shape works well
01:32:635 (1,2) - Same thing, this would be really zesty https://puu.sh/xRUfy/6a1f6cb836.png
01:33:010 (1,2) - Rhythm is inconsistent with how 01:21:010 (1,1) - is done
01:41:447 (1) - The 1/4 sound in the background isn't very strong, and it's not exactly all 1/4 rhythm. I'd suggest to just use a 1/1 slider with low SV instead of the stream.
Rest of it look pretty good

ExtradiuS
Spacing is inconsistent in a couple places
00:20:447 (4,5) - This is a large jump, but 00:21:572 (3,4) - is really small. Distance snap is almost the same, but the second one is much easier to play because of slider leniency.
00:22:697 (2,3) - There's a strong unmapped sound here, there's no need to simplify rhythm for a top diff.
00:28:510 (1) - ^ Same thing, but this time it also has an inconsistent timeline. This is what I'd use for rhythm here https://puu.sh/xS4gU/ed859f6eab.png
00:25:510 (1,2,3,4) - This has inconsistent rhythm with 00:19:510 (1,2,3,4) - . The first one is better imo, as there is a strong piano sound on each slider.
00:48:760 (5,1) - When you're using the same spacing for 1/4 and 1/2 objects (eg 00:52:697 (2,3) - ), it's quite difficult to read the difference between them. I think most of these 1/4s are spaced more than they should reasonably be.
01:18:010 (1) - The slider body here is not clear, change it so that the borders are a bit more visible near the end

You use a lot of stacking objects that are 1/1 apart, it's quite limiting on the map because the stacks force most of the movement to be limited to a much smaller area than it it wasn't stacked. Just something to keep in mind for future mapping, using fewer stacks would create more interesting movement.
01:31:509 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This area suffers a bit from the thing mentioned above. Lots of stacking that causes uncomfortable angles and cramped object placement to be used.
02:05:260 (6,7) - There's a long 1/4 piano stream here. Instead of adding 1/2 gaps, use 1/4 sliders to map these rhythms and keep the interesting movement.

good luck!
posted

Sinnoh wrote:

General

Normal
00:01:510 (1) - This slow opening plays identical to the kiai. Use more 2/1 sliders and decrease rhythm to create better contrast between the two.
Adding basic slider velocity change would also help add a bit of contrast between sections. Eg. 0.8x at 00:01:510 (1) - I changed slider velocity
00:30:010 (3) - Avoid making this slider shape harder than it needs to be, new players are still learning how sliders work. Change this to a simpler shape, it can still have curves and corners, just not like this. (eg. 01:15:010 (2) - is good) Ok... Sad face feelsbadman :cry:
01:18:760 (2,3) - Try and reduce the overlap on the slider body, 3 is kind of covered and hard to read. Fixed
01:22:322 (3) - Again, keep slider bodies simple and easy to follow. Fixed

good luck!
Thanks!

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posted

Sinnoh wrote:

General
00:01:510 (1) - Using finish in the opening piano is overdoing it a bit, just use whistle or a different hitsound instead It's really low volume,
and it's a different sound from the whistles used in the other parts, I'm keeping it for now.

00:49:885 (2) - Wrong hitsound set used here not really, it's always SC:3 and then S default for these, been using it that way all throughout the kiai

Hard
00:28:510 (1) - This slider body overlaps a bit too much and is weird to read, lower it a bit to avoid overlap yep
00:48:197 (2,3,4,5) - 01:00:197 (2,3,4,5) - Using a consecutive triple + two 1/4 sliders is too difficult for a hard. Combine the sliders to a 4x repeat instead, will be easier. This applies to most of the diff, as there's a lot of these. yes
00:53:635 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Do not use spacing that varies this much on hard. Spacing should be 90% consistent, and increased only on specific points to emphasise (eg. 00:55:510 (1) - ) This pattern might work if it was distance snapped instead. I wanted these to be jumps though, since the vocals have so much intensity
01:07:322 (3) - Delete this to simplify rhythm, nothing too important on this. sure
01:10:510 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is wayyyyy too much for a hard. Use the 4x repeat sliders like I suggested before. ya
Only issue with wub section here is the issue I mentioned at 00:48:197 (2,3,4,5) - , needs to be applied here.
02:21:010 (4) - This isn't correctly snapped, move it back 1/3 and place the hitsound on the ending. I'm not sure of having this for a hard,
I may swap this ending with the one in insane anyway, but for now sure.


Insane
A very general thing in a couple places, consecutive 1/4 sliders don't have too much organisation. Eg. 00:24:197 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:00:947 (9,10,11) -
Your map would be much more organised if you used consistent distance between slider bodies. Image is easier to explain, some examples: (Red line = make these same distance apart) https://puu.sh/xRXcu/6f9fda001b.png https://puu.sh/xRXc6/400fc3dcbe.png

00:20:260 (4,5) - You stack circles on a slider tail when they are both 3/4 and 1/2 apart. Change stack leniency to 2 so that they are easier to tell apart quickly. sure
00:30:010 (1,2,3) - This isn't stacked correctly, this in addition to low SV makes it quite hard to read. Do a manual stack by placing 00:30:853 (2,3) - at 209,216 those values seem wrong? the notes end at the bottom of the screen for me. Fiddled with these, editor shows 0,0x now so should be fine?
00:33:385 (2) - 00:39:385 (2) - While you have most vocals on clickable rhythm, these break that pattern. Use 3/4 sliders like the others, or a different rhythm those were like that because they seemed softer than the rest, but sure
00:35:260 (1,2,1,2) - These sections are very identical, but you used circles on one and sliders on the next. Use the same rhythm so that they are mapped consistent. nope, there are piano differences between the first combo and the next
00:38:165 (4,5) - This triple overlaps the slider a lot more than 00:41:822 (6,7,1) - . Move 3,4 upwards a bit so that it's more consistent visually sure
00:49:135 (9,1) - These could be further apart for emphasis even if it's 1/4 apart. Slider leniency keeps it playable just fine. sure, I could,
but the emphasis IMO is more at 00:48:947 (8,9) - than 00:49:135 (9,1) -

00:51:010 (1,2,3) - These three sounds are exactly the same, but you use 3/4, 1/2 and 1/1 sliders on them. Makes more sense to use the same shape for the same sounds. It's also inconsistent with 01:03:010 (1,2,3) - , which only uses 1/2 sliders. I was following vocals? guriri holds at 00:51:010 (1) - and connects with 00:51:385 (2) -, but then stops for a second at 00:51:385 (2) - . I wanted to reflect that.
01:14:260 (8,9) - The sounds on the two sliders are quite different, changing rhythm would be better suited. I'd suggest changing 9 to a 3/4 slider or a circle. sure
01:18:010 (1) - Using a lower SV would contrast the next sliders better I'll slow 2 instead
01:30:385 (1,2) - These two sliders should be changed to a 3/4 slider, as there's not much sound on the second slider + the music is just one wub. Making 01:30:385 (1) - a circle shape works well fixed making other shape for pattern connection
01:32:635 (1,2) - Same thing, this would be really zesty https://puu.sh/xRUfy/6a1f6cb836.png sure, also moved the next combo
01:33:010 (1,2) - Rhythm is inconsistent with how 01:21:010 (1,1) - is done changed it a bit, but it's not exactly the same rhythm as before,
more growls and bass kicks here. This song is weird like that, it doesn't repeat itself too much. Seems like so, but it always changes something that fucks you over while trying to build consistency or patterns.

01:41:447 (1) - The 1/4 sound in the background isn't very strong, and it's not exactly all 1/4 rhythm. I'd suggest to just use a 1/1 slider with low SV instead of the stream. I mainly used a 1/4 stream to simplify the rhythm, since we're coming out of a really wild section anyway. I felt players would need a way out, and a stream felt better to discharge energy than a slider.
Rest of it look pretty good

good luck!
Thank you for your mod! :)
I'm going to wait for MaridiuS before updating this. nvm updated
posted

Sinnoh wrote:

ExtradiuS
Spacing is inconsistent in a couple places
00:20:447 (4,5) - This is a large jump, but 00:21:572 (3,4) - is really small. Distance snap is almost the same, but the second one is much easier to play because of slider leniency.
00:22:697 (2,3) - There's a strong unmapped sound here, there's no need to simplify rhythm for a top diff.
00:28:510 (1) - ^ Same thing, but this time it also has an inconsistent timeline. This is what I'd use for rhythm here https://puu.sh/xS4gU/ed859f6eab.png
00:25:510 (1,2,3,4) - This has inconsistent rhythm with 00:19:510 (1,2,3,4) - . The first one is better imo, as there is a strong piano sound on each slider.
00:48:760 (5,1) - When you're using the same spacing for 1/4 and 1/2 objects (eg 00:52:697 (2,3) - ), it's quite difficult to read the difference between them. I think most of these 1/4s are spaced more than they should reasonably be. will adjust a bit.
01:18:010 (1) - The slider body here is not clear, change it so that the borders are a bit more visible near the end oh jeez it looks horrendous on default skin damn.

You use a lot of stacking objects that are 1/1 apart, it's quite limiting on the map because the stacks force most of the movement to be limited to a much smaller area than it it wasn't stacked. Just something to keep in mind for future mapping, using fewer stacks would create more interesting movement. Sorry man movement that I find interesting is mostly not interesting to a fiair portion of community so I gotta fit at least the movement with the meta. Also stacks are not really apparent in this map and used in order to make stuff look good rather than chaotic partial overlaps and variable visual spacing.
01:31:509 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This area suffers a bit from the thing mentioned above. Lots of stacking that causes uncomfortable angles and cramped object placement to be used. I'd rather stack it then make it fully messy tbh. There's only one actual appearing stack in this part, the rest is fairly distanced from each other.
02:05:260 (6,7) - There's a long 1/4 piano stream here. Instead of adding 1/2 gaps, use 1/4 sliders to map these rhythms and keep the interesting movement.

good luck!
Hmm I was mapping this with speakers, so now I notice on good headphones the stuff that's going on. Will adjust the rhythms a bit. Will give code tomorrow.

did it
osu file format v14

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Hey M4M here
:?: : Suggestions
:!: : Problem

:?: More personal taste but I feel like kiai would fit better here 01:18:010 - seeing as it's alot more intense than the current kiai.

FlameL's Normal
:?: 00:10:510 (1) - Could move this so that it doesnt overlap without changing how it plays. More clarity for Normal diff.
:?: 00:23:260 (2) - Suggest mirroring the slider before (this one 00:22:510 (1) -)
:?: 00:34:135 (3,4) - Blanket
:?: 01:25:510 (3,4) - Blanket
Hard
:!: 00:26:072 (2,3) - Spacing inconsistency, same intensity/part as 00:27:572 (2,3) - but doesnt follow same spacing idea.
:?: 02:20:885 (4) - Abit iffy, would say having this is harder than what you do here in the Insane diff. Maybe just make 02:19:510 (3) - into a slider like the Insane diff.
Insane
:?: 01:40:041 (2) - First time in the section you use pattern like this (previously there's some amount of spacing in between. Could be better readingwise if you used the same here.

Cool diff yo!
ExtradiuS
:?: 00:10:510 (3) - Could look abit better/interesting if it were rotated to the left a bit.
:?: 00:22:322 (6) - Maybe rotate clockwise for better flow.
:?: 00:23:447 (2) - Strange flow, suggest something like this https://puu.sh/yviDr/48bbc63ab8.png
:!: 00:30:947 (3,4,1) - Not sure if the music justifies this.
:?: 00:39:760 (1,2,3,4) - Abit overmapped I would say
:?: 00:49:041 (1) - Better looks/flow with moving it up so it's a straight line into and through the slider.
:?: 00:55:041 (5,6) - Abit extreme with these, feels like ur forcing difficulty when the song is relatively calm during this whole section.
:?: 01:23:541 (3,4) - Same as above (but rotate slider slightly), doing this also makes the slider fit with 01:23:822 (5) - better.
:?: 01:33:572 (3,1) - Flows/looks better with this arrangement https://puu.sh/yviVF/eebfebb057.png
:!: 01:35:260 (1,2,3,4) - Not straight (guessing that's what ur going for), extend the first slider all the way and align the rest on that.
:?: 01:36:760 (4) - Flip horizontally
:?: 02:10:510 - May wanna consider putting an outro section here like the other diffs.
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horunge wrote:

Hey M4M here
:?: : Suggestions
:!: : Problem

:?: More personal taste but I feel like kiai would fit better here 01:18:010 - seeing as it's alot more intense than the current kiai. I'm keeping it as is for now. May change later depending on Flame's and MaridiuS's opinion. I wanted to avoid kiai in the wub part and instead placed it there where the voice is more intense.

Hard
:!: 00:26:072 (2,3) - Spacing inconsistency, same intensity/part as 00:27:572 (2,3) - but doesnt follow same spacing idea. I like the jump tho, moved 00:27:572 (2,3) - instead
:?: 02:20:885 (4) - Abit iffy, would say having this is harder than what you do here in the Insane diff. Maybe just make 02:19:510 (3) - into a slider like the Insane diff. yap, redid these
Insane
:?: 01:40:041 (2) - First time in the section you use pattern like this (previously there's some amount of spacing in between. Could be better readingwise if you used the same here. changed it a bit but gave it intensity since it's the section end

Cool diff yo! thx! :D
ExtradiuS
:?: 00:10:510 (3) - Could look abit better/interesting if it were rotated to the left a bit.
:?: 00:22:322 (6) - Maybe rotate clockwise for better flow.
:?: 00:23:447 (2) - Strange flow, suggest something like this https://puu.sh/yviDr/48bbc63ab8.png
:!: 00:30:947 (3,4,1) - Not sure if the music justifies this.
:?: 00:39:760 (1,2,3,4) - Abit overmapped I would say
:?: 00:49:041 (1) - Better looks/flow with moving it up so it's a straight line into and through the slider.
:?: 00:55:041 (5,6) - Abit extreme with these, feels like ur forcing difficulty when the song is relatively calm during this whole section.
:?: 01:23:541 (3,4) - Same as above (but rotate slider slightly), doing this also makes the slider fit with 01:23:822 (5) - better.
:?: 01:33:572 (3,1) - Flows/looks better with this arrangement https://puu.sh/yviVF/eebfebb057.png
:!: 01:35:260 (1,2,3,4) - Not straight (guessing that's what ur going for), extend the first slider all the way and align the rest on that.
:?: 01:36:760 (4) - Flip horizontally
:?: 02:10:510 - May wanna consider putting an outro section here like the other diffs.
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Hi

horunge wrote:

Hey M4M here
:?: : Suggestions
:!: : Problem

FlameL's Normal
:?: 00:10:510 (1) - Could move this so that it doesnt overlap without changing how it plays. More clarity for Normal diff. Moving it would change a lot so I will stay with it. Its not so hard to read it tho, so It shouldn't be problem.
:?: 00:23:260 (2) - Suggest mirroring the slider before (this one 00:22:510 (1) -) Sure
:?: 00:34:135 (3,4) - Blanket Changed
:?: 01:25:510 (3,4) - Blanket Changed
Thanks!

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horunge wrote:

Hey M4M here
:?: : Suggestions
:!: : Problem

ExtradiuS
:?: 00:10:510 (3) - Could look abit better/interesting if it were rotated to the left a bit. Like how it looks since the sliderend is blanketed
:?: 00:22:322 (6) - Maybe rotate clockwise for better flow. Flow is perfect here, don't know what you're talking about. Rotating it a bit more will ruin the inversion, and will just slightly more go in the direction of the previous object.
:?: 00:23:447 (2) - Strange flow, suggest something like this https://puu.sh/yviDr/48bbc63ab8.png wooosh flow doesn't exist, I don't intend on doing minimal flow adjustments, I like having small imperfections when it comes to that.
:!: 00:30:947 (3,4,1) - Not sure if the music justifies this. You'd have to say why it doesn't or compare it to something. I think it's fine since it suits 00:17:447 (9,10,1) -
:?: 00:39:760 (1,2,3,4) - Abit overmapped I would say overmap = using beats that don't exist in the song. This might be considered as overscaling, but I think it's fairly justified since the orchestral sound happens only on that part. Squares usually look harder more spaced then they really are.
:?: 00:49:041 (1) - Better looks/flow with moving it up so it's a straight line into and through the slider.As I said, I like these minor imperfections in flow, it forces the player to do a rather pleasant small snap.
:?: 00:55:041 (5,6) - Abit extreme with these, feels like ur forcing difficulty when the song is relatively calm during this whole section. I wouldn't say it's pretty extreme, its 3 heavy kicks, similar intensity of 3kicks that happen in the wub section.
:?: 01:23:541 (3,4) - Same as above (but rotate slider slightly), doing this also makes the slider fit with 01:23:822 (5) - better. Minor imperfections, having it flow exactly as the line from the previous object gives no impact to the player.
:?: 01:33:572 (3,1) - Flows/looks better with this arrangement https://puu.sh/yviVF/eebfebb057.png Inversion is also a completely viable aesthetical choice which I tend to use often in the section. And you know about flow.
:!: 01:35:260 (1,2,3,4) - Not straight (guessing that's what ur going for), extend the first slider all the way and align the rest on that. I'm sorry, but I don't understand what are you suggesting here.
:?: 01:36:760 (4) - Flip horizontally hey I like this suggestion.
:?: 02:10:510 - May wanna consider putting an outro section here like the other diffs. meh I don't like doing outros, I like when something is playing when I finish the map.
Hey that's a pretty sweet mod design, polite wording, keep it up. With better knowledge of mapping you might have a really nice modding career.
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Maradius

i don't see a reason for 00:52:510 (1,2) - to be split into two circles and not part of the main triangle like the 00:51:010 (1,2,3,4) - just before it.

00:14:447 (1,2) - spacing here looks too large, the piano after is higher intensity so this jump is out of place

00:33:385 (2,3) - this is the only 1/4 after a slider that's perfectly stacked, move it down a bit it looks misleading since you have a 1/2 00:34:510 (1,2) - here
00:36:010 (1,2) - same issue here
and you use 00:42:010 (1,2) - spaced here anyways.

01:01:322 (3,4) - this spacing is way too high, its higher that a lot of other doubles, even when compared to the wub part, espcially since the strings aren't even that loud here

00:57:760 (4,5) - this spacing is weird here its too low in contrast to anything else, and it doesn't really have a reason to be. I also don't see a reason why these aren't 1/2 sliders, the vocal ends on the red tick.

theres some rhythm inconsistency here, 01:00:010 (1,2,3,4) - where you ignore the 1/4 piano, but map it 01:01:041 (1,2,3,4) - here after.

i think this section here needs a rework, 01:06:010 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - because of the way you're doing 1/2 emphasis is off. 01:07:885 (2) - has an extremely intense vocal with a lot of tension but requires almost no movement from the previous circle because of slider leinency, 01:06:010 (1,2) - the jumps 01:06:760 (1,2) - are correlated to each vocal, but 01:08:260 (1,2) - 2 should have a jump too since it's also a different vocal.

01:14:635 (7,8,9,10,1) - The 1/4 here is nearly inaudible, i think 1/4 kickslider are a better representation of the rhyhtm here, if not, it's still very strange that the more audible 01:14:447 (5,6,7) - are given lower spacing.

n01:31:228 (1,2,1,2,3) - ncing here is weird esp since it's the same synth as 01:33:760 (1,2,3) -

01:37:135 (6) - i don't know what this is mapped to. The rhythm is syncopated here, and it begins on 01:37:228 - , not 01:37:135 - . there is no sound whatsoever on the white tick.

01:20:541 - missing 1/4 here that you mapped later on 01:26:447 (5,6,7) -

01:30:760 (1,2) - this rhythm choice is extrmely strange to me. this laser synth rhythm is a triplet, but the way you have it mapped, the first slider takes 2, and the second sliders tail is mapping nothing.

01:43:510 (1,2) - stack

01:44:635 (4) - curve more to match the previous slider and the one after

02:04:885 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this stream has a couple notes 02:05:447 (3,4,1,2) - that are extremely quiet, that are mapped as if they were the same velocity as their adjacent notes. Its strange to see that 02:07:135 (3,4,5,6,1) - which contains higher velocity notes, but significantly lower spacing, even if the intent is to slow down the section in preperation for the ending of the map.


Edit: I read the previous mods, 00:55:041 (5,6) - has higher spacing than some of the wub kicks, and it feels out of place in comparision to the rest of the kiai's relatively calmer parts. While i understand it helps to introduce the concept, it's still overdone in my opinion.

01:37:885 (1,2,3,4,5) - i'd raise the spacing of the 4/5 here and prolly the sv of the slider 2

01:39:760 (5) - unsnapped object

insane this difficulty is well mapped :)

01:40:697 (1,2,3) - fix this stack a bit?, actually you have a couple stacks that look like this that i guess you could make look slightly better, 01:56:635 (2,3,1) - prolyl can just manually stack em or something if you have to.

01:22:603 (5) - prolyl should start nc here since 01:21:760 (1,2,3,4) - is one phrase and 5 marks another. you can remove 01:23:541 (1) - nc or keep it tho doesn't matter

01:20:635 (1,2) - and 01:32:635 (7) - and 01:26:635 (7,8) - and 01:38:635 (1) - could you standardize how this sound is mapped?
i think either 3/4 slider or 2x 1/4 work the best personally.

I don't see much issues with the lower diffs, but I personally don't lik, or am qualified to judge the simplification of the wub rhythms. :arrow:

Good luck with your set!
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ailv wrote:

Maradius

i don't see a reason for 00:52:510 (1,2) - to be split into two circles and not part of the main triangle like the 00:51:010 (1,2,3,4) - just before it. The single taps are mostly stacked on 1/2 that aren't snares in the section, I don't see a reason for me to break it in order to fit it with more generic patterning.

00:14:447 (1,2) - spacing here looks too large, the piano after is higher intensity so this jump is out of place I find this to be higher intensity like white ticks currently are in this part

00:33:385 (2,3) - this is the only 1/4 after a slider that's perfectly stacked, move it down a bit it looks misleading since you have a 1/2 00:34:510 (1,2) - here fixed the 1/2 instead
00:36:010 (1,2) - same issue here
and you use 00:42:010 (1,2) - spaced here anyways. >only here >proceeds to point more examples of the same case :?:
Anyways the latter part which you linked is spaced because the intensity of the song is higher.


01:01:322 (3,4) - this spacing is way too high, its higher that a lot of other doubles, even when compared to the wub part, espcially since the strings aren't even that loud here I don't know to which doubles are you comparing it to, but others in the sections actually have bigger spacing like 00:49:041 (1,2) - for example.

00:57:760 (4,5) - this spacing is weird here its too low in contrast to anything else, and it doesn't really have a reason to be. I also don't see a reason why these aren't 1/2 sliders, the vocal ends on the red tick. I don't get why you pick that example and not the previous one 00:45:760 (4,5) - when they're basically on same musical parts. The vocals are backed up by extending orchestral sounds which suggest 3/4 sliders as a nice contrast to other lightweight 1/2's. This is a fair spacing for 3/4.

theres some rhythm inconsistency here, 01:00:010 (1,2,3,4) - where you ignore the 1/4 piano, but map it 01:01:041 (1,2,3,4) - here after. the example you linked doesn't have really dominant piano, and it is consistent with 01:01:041 (1,2,3,4,1) - anyways, not fully because I'd like some variation on interesting sounds to show more patterning options that represent the song in a similar fashion.

i think this section here needs a rework, 01:06:010 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - because of the way you're doing 1/2 emphasis is off. 01:07:885 (2) - has an extremely intense vocal with a lot of tension but requires almost no movement from the previous circle because of slider leinency, 01:06:010 (1,2) - the jumps 01:06:760 (1,2) - are correlated to each vocal, but 01:08:260 (1,2) - 2 should have a jump too since it's also a different vocal. I agree, I will remake the pattern to better follow the vocals.

01:14:635 (7,8,9,10,1) - The 1/4 here is nearly inaudible, i think 1/4 kickslider are a better representation of the rhyhtm here, if not, it's still very strange that the more audible 01:14:447 (5,6,7) - are given lower spacing. relating spacing, I'd rather make pianos spaced and drums stacked, relating audability and representation, I think the stream suits much better since jumping from that intensity to a long held slider is a very nice contrast on a section ending.

n01:31:228 (1,2,1,2,3) - ncing here is weird esp since it's the same synth as 01:33:760 (1,2,3) - oops noticed some inconsistencies, will adjust.

01:37:135 (6) - i don't know what this is mapped to. The rhythm is syncopated here, and it begins on 01:37:228 - , not 01:37:135 - . there is no sound whatsoever on the white tick. though of fililng it up, but I guess adjusted with some 3stacks.

01:20:541 - missing 1/4 here that you mapped later on 01:26:447 (5,6,7) - this kick is not as dominant at all on that part so I decided to contrast it by not mapping it.

01:30:760 (1,2) - this rhythm choice is extrmely strange to me. this laser synth rhythm is a triplet, but the way you have it mapped, the first slider takes 2, and the second sliders tail is mapping nothing. the sliderend doesn't sound that noticeable to me, having this current structure fits in mroe ways, since I based it symmetryical sliders which are grouped of at least 2.

01:43:510 (1,2) - stack sur

01:44:635 (4) - curve more to match the previous slider and the one after seems like it blankets perfectly atm

02:04:885 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this stream has a couple notes 02:05:447 (3,4,1,2) - that are extremely quiet, that are mapped as if they were the same velocity as their adjacent notes. Its strange to see that 02:07:135 (3,4,5,6,1) - which contains higher velocity notes, but significantly lower spacing, even if the intent is to slow down the section in preperation for the ending of the map. Relating same spacing, I don't think varying the spacing suits the structure of the map, there are number of places where I could've changed stream spacing based on pitch height which could often be interpeted as subjective to what is the most intense. Relating the ending, I think it's fine to slow it down, it leaves a nice touch for ending a map.


Edit: I read the previous mods, 00:55:041 (5,6) - has higher spacing than some of the wub kicks, and it feels out of place in comparision to the rest of the kiai's relatively calmer parts. While i understand it helps to introduce the concept, it's still overdone in my opinion. it's pretty simple man,
160bpm and a peaceful 2stack without transitioning into more complex patterns or dense rhythm, player has a lot of space to hit it.


01:37:885 (1,2,3,4,5) - i'd raise the spacing of the 4/5 here and prolly the sv of the slider 2 I wouldnt xd its consistent with other counterparts atm.

01:39:760 (5) - unsnapped object fixd
How do people manage to mispell my name to maradius number of times lol. Thanks for modding. Givin code tomorrow.
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ailv wrote:

insane this difficulty is well mapped :)thanks :)

01:40:697 (1,2,3) - fix this stack a bit?, actually you have a couple stacks that look like this that i guess you could make look slightly better, 01:56:635 (2,3,1) - prolyl can just manually stack em or something if you have to. I don't know why it does that lmao. Fixed?

01:22:603 (5) - prolyl should start nc here since 01:21:760 (1,2,3,4) - is one phrase and 5 marks another. you can remove 01:23:541 (1) - nc or keep it tho doesn't matter ye i guess

01:20:635 (1,2) - and 01:32:635 (7) - and 01:26:635 (7,8) - and 01:38:635 (1) - could you standardize how this sound is mapped?
i think either 3/4 slider or 2x 1/4 work the best personally. changed 01:26:822 (8) - to 2x sliders. 01:32:635 (7) - stays the same because the intensity isn't the same and 01:38:635 (1) - is not the same as the rest, has more growl.

I don't see much issues with the lower diffs, but I personally don't lik, or am qualified to judge the simplification of the wub rhythms. :arrow:

Good luck with your set!
Thanks!
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nm helo
why havent i thought of modding like kupo does
its awesome holy shit
:?: Personal suggestions / minor issues
:!: Major concerns
[FlameLancer]
imo the map feels somewhat unclean, ill just point out major issues and certain patterns i found especially bad for noob players, cuz i barely map lower diffs let alone modding one xd

:!: Under the current ranking standards i dont think its legal to manipulate svs in a 1.8* diff yet
:!: 00:01:510 (1,2,3,4,5) - Even if its just a normal u could have made some emphasis :? mapping in circles just doesn work here as theres many things going on already in this part
:!: 01:24:010 (1,2,3) - i dont like to comment on aesthetics but hell this is honestly ugly lol, plus (2) is not quite a comfortable shape for a 1.8* diff, makes me wanna release the slider early
:!: 01:34:322 (3) - same, uncomfortable slider


[Hard]
:?: 00:03:010 (2) - space it further from (1) maybe, having to move the cursor so slowly to the next position plays weird
:!: 00:29:260 (2) - extend by 1/2
:?: 00:59:260 (3) - rotate clockwise by 5 for slightly better aesthetics?
:?: 01:11:635 (1) - kinda weird how you randomly decided to NC this snare while others u ignore lol
:?: 01:12:572 + 01:14:072 - im not a hitsounding guy but double snares feels weird
:!: 01:25:416 (4,5) - fix stack, goes inside slider in game unless u meant for it to look really ugly Lo
:?: 01:39:572 - personally think the growl is represented better using sliders instead of circles as the sound is prolonged, plus circles ruins that roughness

[Insane]
some NCing inconsistencies during dubstep part, those listed below are those i noticed cuz i didn check one by one zz

:?: 00:30:947 (3,4,5) - very minor suggestion, but something like this https://i.imgur.com/Aghc9Kz.jpg represents the chord progression better imo rather than just placing sliders at random place with reasonable ds
:?: 00:48:947 (8,9) - uhh NC maybe cuz the sound is sth different
:?: 01:00:947 (9,10,11) - same, NC maybe
:?: 01:19:322 (3) - place this circle closer to the following slider maybe, plays slightly better
:?: 01:26:635 (7) - missing NC, u NCed the same thing before
:?: 01:34:510 - NC inconsistencies with 01:22:603

nice little map, honestly cant complain much other than the fact that the aesthetics are not my taste i like how u emphasis or represent certain stuff like 01:28:697 or 01:55:885 d

[Extradius]
:!: Unsnapped object, check AIMod
:?: 00:20:260 (4) - maybe make the slider points to the right instead for snare emphasis?
:?: 00:23:635 (3,4,5,6,1) - placing it like this flows slightly better imo https://i.imgur.com/Q2O84EH.jpg
:?: 00:39:010 (3,4) - this pattern is very interesting and i appreciate it, but i would use a different slider shape for this overlapping pattern as what u did currently feels rather overdramatic compared with the actual vocals, for example https://i.imgur.com/JRiM7tT.jpg . also NC pls
:?: 00:55:135 (6) - suggestion, these circles can be placed more interestingly like https://i.imgur.com/IyvWVmu.jpg , it also helps emphasize the snares
:!: 01:01:041 - one thing ive learned in mapping is that 1/4 slider followed with 2 1/4 circles in a linear fashion is extremely unintuitive and aids to play
:?: 01:11:822 (4) - not sure what sound are you trying to represent with this circle
:!: 01:34:885 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - also not intuitive to play but as this part is faster its even a bigger of a problem, what u did in 01:23:072 is much better

quite a lot of interesting concepts u introduced, like how the sliders in 01:41:260 builds on the tension of the sound well. and the dubstep part was pretty nice, tho map feels rather like "new mapper aesthetics" lol

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still noob at modding, sorry if its not useful : //
good luck~
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Faygor wrote:

[Hard]
:?: 00:03:010 (2) - space it further from (1) maybe, having to move the cursor so slowly to the next position plays weird sure
:!: 00:29:260 (2) - extend by 1/2 nope. It follows the drums, but I want to end it there so there's space before the spinner
:?: 00:59:260 (3) - rotate clockwise by 5 for slightly better aesthetics? ye
:?: 01:11:635 (1) - kinda weird how you randomly decided to NC this snare while others u ignore lol ah, that's mostly to emphasize visually the low spacing compared to the previous sliders, also because the song slows down (eventhough I don't ingame since I don't really tend to use SV changes for hards that much) and I wanted to reflect that somehow. I may remove it, but for now let's keep it like that.
:?: 01:12:572 + 01:14:072 - im not a hitsounding guy but double snares feels weird ye changed to whistles
:!: 01:25:416 (4,5) - fix stack, goes inside slider in game unless u meant for it to look really ugly Lo I don't know how to manually stack but I tried lmao
:?: 01:39:572 - personally think the growl is represented better using sliders instead of circles as the sound is prolonged, plus circles ruins that roughness ye

[Insane]
some NCing inconsistencies during dubstep part, those listed below are those i noticed cuz i didn check one by one zz

:?: 00:30:947 (3,4,5) - very minor suggestion, but something like this https://i.imgur.com/Aghc9Kz.jpg represents the chord progression better imo rather than just placing sliders at random place with reasonable ds it's not random though, it's a back and forth pattern. Pretty much the same thing you suggest but using higher spacing because I want to emphasize 00:31:135 (4,5) - transition
:?: 00:48:947 (8,9) - uhh NC maybe cuz the sound is sth different doesn't seem relevant enough for me to break the 1 NC every measure tbh
:?: 01:00:947 (9,10,11) - same, NC maybe ^
:?: 01:19:322 (3) - place this circle closer to the following slider maybe, plays slightly better shuffled it a bit ye
:?: 01:26:635 (7) - missing NC, u NCed the same thing before yee
:?: 01:34:510 - NC inconsistencies with 01:22:603 fix'd 01:22:603

nice little map, honestly cant complain much other than the fact that the aesthetics are not my taste i like how u emphasis or represent certain stuff like 01:28:697 or 01:55:885 d I like slowing down ye xddd

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still noob at modding, sorry if its not useful : //
good luck~
It was helpful, thanks!
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Faygor wrote:

nm helo
why havent i thought of modding like kupo does
its awesome holy shit
:?: Personal suggestions / minor issues
:!: Major concerns
[FlameLancer]
imo the map feels somewhat unclean ?, ill just point out major issues and certain patterns i found especially bad for noob players, cuz i barely map lower diffs let alone modding one xd

:!: Under the current ranking standards i dont think its legal to manipulate svs in a 1.8* diff yet I changed sv for entire section that ends with a little break (spinner), so there is no sudden change that new player could have a problem with. Besides even BN said that I should do that to emphasize the tempo.
:!: 00:01:510 (1,2,3,4,5) - Even if its just a normal u could have made some emphasis :? mapping in circles just doesn work here as theres many things going on already in this part ?????? I don't really get your point here. Whats wrong with arranging those objects this way. They emphasize vocal and piano as they should imo.
:!: 01:24:010 (1,2,3) - i dont like to comment on aesthetics but hell this is honestly ugly lol, plus (2) is not quite a comfortable shape for a 1.8* diff, makes me wanna release the slider early. Sliders are differently shaped ("ugly") to emphasize this intense wub part. They might be uncomfortable because you are used to cutting sliders short (and high AR maps).
:!: 01:34:322 (3) - same, uncomfortable slider ^



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good luck~
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