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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 at 2:47:34 PM

Artist: Mameyudoufu
Title: Kemono Friends VS Cerulean BGM Recreation
Source: けものフレンズ
Tags: ost electro original soundtrack remix Akiyuki Tateyama 立山秋航 snownino_
BPM: 128
Filesize: 2335kb
Play Time: 01:15
Difficulties Available:
  1. Beginner (1.63 stars, 84 notes)
  2. Ex (5.29 stars, 355 notes)
  3. Hyper (3.2 stars, 230 notes)
  4. NiNo's Another (4.52 stars, 337 notes)
  5. Standard (2.69 stars, 146 notes)


Download: Mameyudoufu - Kemono Friends VS Cerulean BGM Recreation
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Thanks sakiz for showing me this cool song!!
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metadata q
  1. Artist: Mameyudofu (based on official artist's youtube channel)
  2. Title: Kemono Friends VS Cerulean BGM Recreation (based on official artist's youtube video)
  3. Source: けものフレンズ (based on official site)
Hope I'm right!
posted
M4M!!
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/616696

Ex
try od8?
some of the blankets can be improved imo e.g. 00:51:579 (3,5) - the visual spacing is too small
  1. 00:18:298 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Increase spacing here isn't really necessary to me as the melody remains the same. Try to keep it consistent with 00:16:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ?
  2. 00:23:103 (1) - Personally I'm not in favor of this spinner as it skips too much important rhythm e.g. electric sound starting at 00:24:861 -
  3. 00:32:361 (1,2,3) - In general, throughout the kiai time you may slightly decrease the spacing of these patterns (which is before those 1/4 slider jumps) and make the flow smoother so that the 1/4 jumps would stands out more. currently how they flow is pretty similar and imo if you want to emphasize beat at 00:33:298 (1,2,3,4) - making such change may be better
  4. 00:38:923 (1) - split this slider? it's skipping a important beat at the middle
  5. 00:46:892 (1,2,3,4) - sound is slightly sharper here so i think you may do a anti-jump here instead of making it identical to the last pattern :3
  6. 00:57:673 (1,2) - change these to circles? imo making it clickable would fit the drum sound here better
  7. 01:08:689 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this pattern is very difficult to play as the flow is too sharp here combined with the mixture of jumps and anti-jumps making it not so comfortable to play ;w; nerf the spacing here?


Nino
  1. 00:29:548 (1,2,3,4) - 這裡的滑條方向換成全部向上?感覺比較合曲也比較好打
  2. 00:38:923 (1,2) - 我知道疊起來是比較好打,但是我覺得這兩個還是不疊比較合曲吧畢竟這裡音樂有比較大聲,沒有移動的話反而不太合曲
  3. 00:53:923 (1,2) - ^
  4. 00:47:829 (3,4) - 改一下spacing? 你前面00:32:829 (3,4) - 這邊有拉開這裡突然這麼放有點怪
  5. 01:00:486 (1) - 這顆有點難讀呃像後面01:00:486 (1,3) - 拉開會不會比較好


Hyper
  1. 00:23:103 (1) -
  2. 00:31:423 (1) - this is obviously offbeat maybe remove it?
  3. 00:42:673 (3,4,5,6) - make the spacing equal here?
  4. 01:01:423 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this pattern is really difficult when put in hyper diff due to the overlapping. (its even harder than 01:15:251 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - imo) Nerf it by removing the overlapping?


Normal
  1. 01:07:986 (1,2) - fix blanket


Beginner
  1. 01:04:939 (5,6) - considering this is the lowest diff i'd suggest removing overlap so that the spread between beginner and normal will be better :3


Good luck!
posted
  • [EX]
  1. 00:18:298 - spacing here shouldnt be larger then 00:16:423 - imo since they both sound the same
  2. 00:23:103 - dont be lazy lololol
  3. 00:55:212 (2,3) - i dont recommend stacking 2 slider end since it looks kinda ugly especially with the 1/2 slider 00:55:564 (3) -
  4. 01:15:486 - u know this plays rly suck lol
  • [Hyper]
  1. 00:01:423 (4,5,6) - blanket off plz
  2. 00:15:486 (1) - inconsistent structure with 00:17:361 - 00:19:236 - etc
  3. 00:46:892 - spacing here should be smaller tho since the pitch is lower here
  • [Standard]
  1. 00:40:798 (3,5) - move a bit away?


beginner is G
posted
Red = Not allowed/potentionaly causing DQ
Bold = Mostly important, partially subjective, address this properly
Regular = Subjective opinion, try it out but don't obey my opinion if yours is essentially different
[General]
  1. Rename NiNo's Insane to Another because Insane doesn't fit the naming you used.
  2. In the tags you should use snownino_ instead of snownino
[Ex]
  1. in the whole first part all every 3 sliders in each group followed the same logic except this oen 00:02:712 (3) - i think you should curve this one
  2. 00:50:407 (2) - according to how you mapped previous parts this should be two stacked circles
  3. 00:23:103 (1) - would be better if you map this part because it's too boring to spin this fidget spinner
[NiNo's Insane]
  1. 01:12:439 (2) - try to avoid this overlap with 01:11:736 (1) -
[Hyper]
  1. in this part 00:00:486 - 00:15:486 - i really enjoyed how you emphasized every downbeat with NC so I would suggest to do so here
  2. 00:23:103 (1) - the same thing as ex
[Standard]
  1. that overlaps in the beginning of the diff are weird, could you increase spacing for 1/2 rhythms to 1.1, it won't affect the patterns and playability a lot but will make it sexier
  2. 00:22:986 (1) - ya you know
  3. 01:00:486 (6) - missed nc
[Beginner]
  1. 00:22:986 (1) - xd
  2. 00:47:361 (1) - this wave is weird, make it sexier pls
what an example of a good map. best of luck with this set~♥
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Standard
  1. 00:00:486 (1,2) - Blanket? same goes to 00:02:361 (3,4) -
  2. 00:22:986 (1) - Personally, I think this spinner is a bit too long? I think it's better to map the 1/2 buildup and start the spinner on 00:28:611 -
  3. 00:40:798 (3,4,5,1) - I think the flow looks crooked, like it's not equidistant (between 00:40:798 (3,5,1) - ) Maybe do something to make them the same visually?
  4. 00:56:267 (4) - ctrl+j? looks intuitive if you do
Hyper
  1. 00:36:814 (3,4,5) - I think stacking these wouldn't make the most out of the background music that plays a rather active 1/4 rhythm? I suggest not stacking these?
  2. 00:46:892 (1,2,3,4) - Decrease spacing from here?
  3. 01:15:368 (7) - I don't see why making this circle clickable when there's no strong sound supporting it
  4. 01:16:774 (4,1) - From how you overlap this, I think players might have trouble reading this


sorry cant find anything else from higher diffs
posted
hi from your q

[Beginner]
  1. 00:36:111 (1) - maybe move one of the red nod onto the slider tick, so it feels like it is following the beat
  2. 01:15:486 (2) - end at 01:17:361 - it represent the song better
[Standard]
  1. 00:37:517 (4) - add like a curve like 00:37:048 (3) - so the slider looks like it's directing to the next slider
  2. 01:00:486 (6) - NC?
  3. 01:16:892 (1) - end at the white tick as thats where the sound ends
[Hyper]
  1. 00:00:603 (2,3,4) - the distance between them are really confusing, there are both 1/2 but the ds seems to be completely different, this can let the player confuse what rhythm is this
    similar cases will not be mentioned here
  2. 00:06:111 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - similar to ^ but the ds here is the same
  3. 00:15:486 (1) - think it's weird that while the part later are replaced with two reverse sliders while here just use one, consider use two rather than one
  4. 00:31:892 (2,1) - think you don't have to stack them, it's the same rhythm with 00:31:423 (1,2) -
  5. 00:49:236 (1,2) - what you did previously (00:47:361 (1,2) - ) is space while here doesn't, seems not so consistent
  6. 00:55:798 (4,5,6,7,1) - the stacks are confusing lol
  7. 01:16:892 (1) - end at the white tick as thats where the sound ends
[NiNo's Insane]
  1. 00:39:392 (1) - didn't stack properly (the overlap looks ugly)
  2. 00:47:829 (3,4) - ds seems too short compare to the others (00:40:329 (3,4) - )
  3. 01:11:736 (1,2) - random overlap
  4. 01:16:892 (1) - end at the white tick as thats where the sound ends
[Ex]
  1. 00:00:486 (1,2,3,1) - same problem with the hyper difficulty: the spacing are too confusing
  2. 00:42:204 (3,4,5) - the flow breaks here, plays uncomfortably
  3. 01:16:892 (1) - end at the white tick as thats where the sound ends
good luck with your mapset!
posted

Regou wrote:

M4M!!
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/616696

Ex
try od8?
some of the blankets can be improved imo e.g. 00:51:579 (3,5) - the visual spacing is too small I am fine with any visual spacing as long as the notes don't touch each other lol
  1. 00:18:298 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Increase spacing here isn't really necessary to me as the melody remains the same. Try to keep it consistent with 00:16:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ?
  2. 00:23:103 (1) - Personally I'm not in favor of this spinner as it skips too much important rhythm e.g. electric sound starting at 00:24:861 -
  3. 00:32:361 (1,2,3) - In general, throughout the kiai time you may slightly decrease the spacing of these patterns (which is before those 1/4 slider jumps) and make the flow smoother so that the 1/4 jumps would stands out more. currently how they flow is pretty similar and imo if you want to emphasize beat at 00:33:298 (1,2,3,4) - making such change may be better i get your point but the wubs on 00:32:361 - 00:32:712 - 00:33:064 - etc are also pretty strong so the spacing fits them fine right now
  4. 00:38:923 (1) - split this slider? it's skipping a important beat at the middle If the important beat you are talking about is 00:39:040 - this one then nope it doesn't stand out to me as an "important" or "map-worthy" beat
  5. 00:46:892 (1,2,3,4) - sound is slightly sharper here so i think you may do a anti-jump here instead of making it identical to the last pattern :3
  6. 00:57:673 (1,2) - change these to circles? imo making it clickable would fit the drum sound here better I want the stronger parts to feel much more drastic so thats why i used sliders here. Changing to circles will make the other parts loose their importance
  7. 01:08:689 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this pattern is very difficult to play as the flow is too sharp here combined with the mixture of jumps and anti-jumps making it not so comfortable to play ;w; nerf the spacing here?


Hyper
  1. 00:23:103 (1) - i did map the spinner part on highest difficulty but i am gonna leave the bottom 3 with spinners
  2. 00:31:423 (1) - this is obviously offbeat maybe remove it?
  3. 00:42:673 (3,4,5,6) - make the spacing equal here?
  4. 01:01:423 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this pattern is really difficult when put in hyper diff due to the overlapping. (its even harder than 01:15:251 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - imo) Nerf it by removing the overlapping?


Normal
  1. 01:07:986 (1,2) - fix blanket i didn't intend to make blanket here


Beginner
  1. 01:04:939 (5,6) - considering this is the lowest diff i'd suggest removing overlap so that the spread between beginner and normal will be better :3 i will keep this. even though its the lowest difficulty, The diff contains quite some 1/2 rhythms so players are gonna be ready for something like this


Good luck!

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

  • [EX]
  1. 00:18:298 - spacing here shouldnt be larger then 00:16:423 - imo since they both sound the same The spacing is still pretty tiny in both cases so it shouldn't matter that much especially because its an expert difficulty
  2. 00:23:103 - dont be lazy lololol
  3. 00:55:212 (2,3) - i dont recommend stacking 2 slider end since it looks kinda ugly especially with the 1/2 slider 00:55:564 (3) - i like the pattern tho :eyes:
  4. 01:15:486 - u know this plays rly suck lol
  • [Hyper]
  1. 00:01:423 (4,5,6) - blanket off plz
  2. 00:15:486 (1) - inconsistent structure with 00:17:361 - 00:19:236 - etc its intentional though, i made every downbeat with a harder pattern
  3. 00:46:892 - spacing here should be smaller tho since the pitch is lower here uh i can hear the pitch remaining same here lol but yea the DS increase is for sharper sounds
  • [Standard]
  1. 00:40:798 (3,5) - move a bit away?


beginner is G

M a r v o l l o wrote:

Red = Not allowed/potentionaly causing DQ
Bold = Mostly important, partially subjective, address this properly
Regular = Subjective opinion, try it out but don't obey my opinion if yours is essentially different
[General]
  1. Rename NiNo's Insane to Another because Insane doesn't fit the naming you used.
  2. In the tags you should use snownino_ instead of snownino
[Ex]
  1. in the whole first part all every 3 sliders in each group followed the same logic except this oen 00:02:712 (3) - i think you should curve this one That doesn't really matter since i am going for symmetry and stuff like this is supposed to happen
  2. 00:50:407 (2) - according to how you mapped previous parts this should be two stacked circles Did circles earlier and sliders here for variation and visual purposes
  3. 00:23:103 (1) - would be better if you map this part because it's too boring to spin this fidget spinner
[Hyper]
  1. in this part 00:00:486 - 00:15:486 - i really enjoyed how you emphasized every downbeat with NC so I would suggest to do so here what do you mean ? the NC is consistent throughout the whole difficulty and is set on every downbeat
  2. 00:23:103 (1) - the same thing as ex
[Standard]
  1. that overlaps in the beginning of the diff are weird, could you increase spacing for 1/2 rhythms to 1.1, it won't affect the patterns and playability a lot but will make it sexier i am gonna keep the spacing though for consistency across the whole difficulty also on top of that the overlaps aren't 'that' bad. They still overlap each a good amount
  2. 00:22:986 (1) - ya you know
  3. 01:00:486 (6) - missed nc
[Beginner]
  1. 00:22:986 (1) - xd
  2. 00:47:361 (1) - this wave is weird, make it sexier pls i made it that way on purpose lol
what an example of a good map. best of luck with this set~♥

Underdogs wrote:

Standard
  1. 00:00:486 (1,2) - Blanket? same goes to 00:02:361 (3,4) - ee nah that wouldn't work. The DS i chose is pretty small and i wont be able to blanket without letting the circle touch the slider body
  2. 00:22:986 (1) - Personally, I think this spinner is a bit too long? I think it's better to map the 1/2 buildup and start the spinner on 00:28:611 - its fine for low difficulties like this uwu
  3. 00:40:798 (3,4,5,1) - I think the flow looks crooked, like it's not equidistant (between 00:40:798 (3,5,1) - ) Maybe do something to make them the same visually?
  4. 00:56:267 (4) - ctrl+j? looks intuitive if you do
Hyper
  1. 00:36:814 (3,4,5) - I think stacking these wouldn't make the most out of the background music that plays a rather active 1/4 rhythm? I suggest not stacking these? well i stacked these everywhere else and this is how i wanted to execute these sounds
  2. 00:46:892 (1,2,3,4) - Decrease spacing from here? explained in above mod
  3. 01:15:368 (7) - I don't see why making this circle clickable when there's no strong sound supporting it
  4. 01:16:774 (4,1) - From how you overlap this, I think players might have trouble reading this i will think about it


sorry cant find anything else from higher diffs

CookieBite wrote:

hi from your q

[Beginner]
  1. 00:36:111 (1) - maybe move one of the red nod onto the slider tick, so it feels like it is following the beat
  2. 01:15:486 (2) - end at 01:17:361 - it represent the song better i wanted to map that growl at 01:16:892 - because it stands out to me more than the latter part
[Standard]
  1. 00:37:517 (4) - add like a curve like 00:37:048 (3) - so the slider looks like it's directing to the next slider
  2. 01:00:486 (6) - NC?
  3. 01:16:892 (1) - end at the white tick as thats where the sound ends Nope, pretty sure it ends on blue tick. i followed the growl btw if you couldn't tell
[Hyper]
  1. 00:00:603 (2,3,4) - the distance between them are really confusing, there are both 1/2 but the ds seems to be completely different, this can let the player confuse what rhythm is this The DS is not that high and its not that big of a deal, The song is 128 bpm and this is a 4 star difficulty
    similar cases will not be mentioned here
  2. 00:06:111 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - similar to ^ but the ds here is the same ^
  3. 00:15:486 (1) - think it's weird that while the part later are replaced with two reverse sliders while here just use one, consider use two rather than one as i said in response to a previous mod ,i am trying to make patterns harder every downbeat so thats why its a single repeat sliders. I will still consider about it tho
  4. 00:31:892 (2,1) - think you don't have to stack them, it's the same rhythm with 00:31:423 (1,2) -
  5. 00:49:236 (1,2) - what you did previously (00:47:361 (1,2) - ) is space while here doesn't, seems not so consistent its mostly done like that due to aesthetic variation reason
  6. 00:55:798 (4,5,6,7,1) - the stacks are confusing lol No one really had a problem with this tho and i don't see it as a 'confusing' patterns because AR 8 helps to make its readability easier
  7. 01:16:892 (1) - end at the white tick as thats where the sound ends same as previous difficulty
[Ex]
  1. 00:00:486 (1,2,3,1) - same problem with the hyper difficulty: the spacing are too confusing Do you really think expert players will get confused from this lol. If a player cant even figure how this pattern works, how will they play the rest of the map
  2. 00:42:204 (3,4,5) - the flow breaks here, plays uncomfortably its going to same direction though but with a bit higher spacing
  3. 01:16:892 (1) - end at the white tick as thats where the sound ends same as previous difficulty
good luck with your mapset!

No reply = Fixed
Thank you all!!!
posted

Regou wrote:


Nino
  1. 00:29:548 (1,2,3,4) - 這裡的滑條方向換成全部向上?感覺比較合曲也比較好打 變向是因為音樂不一樣了
  2. 00:38:923 (1,2) - 我知道疊起來是比較好打,但是我覺得這兩個還是不疊比較合曲吧畢竟這裡音樂有比較大聲,沒有移動的話反而不太合曲 主要是想做個停頓
  3. 00:53:923 (1,2) - ^
  4. 00:47:829 (3,4) - 改一下spacing? 你前面00:32:829 (3,4) - 這邊有拉開這裡突然這麼放有點怪 到覺得還好
  5. 01:00:486 (1) - 這顆有點難讀呃像後面01:00:486 (1,3) - 拉開會不會比較好

CookieBite wrote:


[NiNo's Insane]
  1. 00:39:392 (1) - didn't stack properly (the overlap looks ugly) open ur stack
  2. 00:47:829 (3,4) - ds seems too short compare to the others (00:40:329 (3,4) - )
  3. 01:11:736 (1,2) - random overlap
  4. 01:16:892 (1) - end at the white tick as thats where the sound ends therere sound at red tick


thx
no reply = fix
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 32302
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[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 8
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Title:Kemono Friends VS Cerulean BGM Recreation
TitleUnicode:Kemono Friends VS Cerulean BGM Recreation
Artist:Mameyudoufu
ArtistUnicode:Mameyudoufu
Creator:DeRandom Otaku
Version:NiNo's Another
Source:けものフレンズ
Tags:ost electro original soundtrack remix snownino_
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posted
Ex
  1. 00:36:814 (4,5) - This pattern comes out of the blue quite quickly and is difficult to read when I played it due to the hitburst on 00:36:345 - obscuring 4. I would suggest to maybe stack 4 on the head of 00:35:876 (5) - instead since it wouldn't be as out of the blue that way.
  2. 00:38:923 (1,2,3,4,5) - There's a very prominent 1/4 heavy melody part here that the map just ignores and I think it would be very fitting to map to that instead of to the bass that's been kinda the same since the start of the kiai. Using more 1/4 sliders and circles would be nice, and it would provide an opportunity to introduce jumps that would better prepare the player for 01:15:486 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and so on. Same for 00:53:923 -
  3. 01:00:486 (1,2) - Plays very awkwardly compared to 01:00:954 (1,2) - which in the song has higher tension but in the map is much much easier to hit. Ctrl+G'ing 01:00:603 (2) - would fix that but you'd need to move 01:00:251 (4) - due to the reverse being hidden then.
  4. 01:00:954 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - This square played horribly with how you enter and the sort of harsh flow you demand relative to how you spaced 01:02:361 (1,2). I would really suggest to make 01:02:361 (1,2) - go more rightwards like https://i.imgur.com/MHweIxT.png.
  5. 01:02:712 (3,1) - This was fairly awkward to hit too considering you force a stop on 1 then have massive spacing for the triangle into slider 01:02:946 (1,2,3,1) - which requires so much change in movement it feels like it overemphasizes the sounds. I think unstacking 1 and moving it so it's more like https://i.imgur.com/1SOBVPH.png would be nice but it kills the triangle pattern. Imo it's worth changing since it really feels weird to play lol.
  6. 01:09:157 (1,2) - Would be nice to angle this downwards instead of the same as 01:08:689 (1,2) - since the pitch changes? Something like https://i.imgur.com/Ll8EHWb.png?
  7. 01:10:564 (3,3) - Also came across as hard to read since 3 is completely covered by the slider end and with how fast the notes come into play it's not enough time to fully fade out. A slight overlap or something would be nice. Same thing for 01:12:439 (3,3) -


Seems mostly fine rhythm and whatnot just some flow and readability issues I'd like to see addressed.

NiNo's Another
  1. I feel like it would be appropriate to NC each iteration of 00:33:298 (4,5,6,7) - since they happen quite often and seem quite distinct from the rest of the sounds playing there. You also did it for 00:35:173 (1,2,3,4,5) - where it worked well.
  2. 00:36:931 (4,5) - Making this blanket would not only look nicer but play much more fluidly.
  3. 00:37:986 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Curious as to why this is much harder to read than 00:52:986 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - ? Make the last one harder or make the first easier it doesn't really make sense to have one pseudo-reading-challenge and the other be fairly straightforward. (I say reading challenge because for the target audience this is probably ambiguous)
  4. 01:08:689 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think this is the only thing I really can't agree with. I get these are strong sounds but it's basically the same as what was done on Ex and as an Another it would be most appropriate to simplify this. You can keep the sliders but at the very least make the spacing less Hanzer and more like https://i.imgur.com/ii1tmTJ.png and do something about the jump to 01:09:392 (1) - which is very difficult to hit for this difficulty level. Not to mention the slider itself plays very unintuitively compared to how the entry angle and exit angle are in comparison to 01:09:861 (1) - which could cause sliderend drops.
  5. It's also a bit weird how 01:09:861 - despite being more of a buildup section is mapped less intensely than the section before it despite building up to an intesity that exceeds the previous section.
  6. 01:16:892 (1) - This plays weird due to its speed and abrupt end where the sound still goes. The map ends as the sound this slider is following is still playing so I would suggest to extend it to the white tick, make a reverse, or slow the SV so it reaches the white tick.


Hyper
  1. 00:38:923 (1,2,3,4) - Same-ish thing as topdiff. 1/4 heavy section here ignored completely and oversimplified. Could use more 1/4 in this.

I'm somewhat concerned mainly of the gap between Standard and Hyper. Hyper has 12 note streams whereas Standard only uses some 1/2 and no 1/4 at all. It would make sense to either nerf this difficulty and use max 5-note streams with repeats on the end or buff the Standard and risk it turning into a pseudo-hyper and then have to make another diff. I think nerfing the streams in this is the safer and less taxing option. What you can also do is buff the lowest diff slightly then use 1/4 in the Stanard as well. The Beginner diff still has .37* wiggle room to make more 1/2 patterns in. Either option you take is up to you, but the spread between Standard and Hyper is not okay right now.

Tl;dr:
  1. Reading issues and an entire outstanding melodic line ignored should be addressed.
  2. NiNo's Another has a massive difficulty spike at the end with the spaced sliderstream, SV notwithstanding and a couple of reading issues.
  3. Gap between Hyper and Standard is too wide. There's too much 1/4 in the Hyper and not enough progression from Standard, that uses only somewhat more 1/2 than the lowest diff.


Depending on what you change, you may call me back, as the stuff in the tl;dr are mostly dealbreakers.
posted

Mir wrote:

Ex
  1. 00:36:814 (4,5) - This pattern comes out of the blue quite quickly and is difficult to read when I played it due to the hitburst on 00:36:345 - obscuring 4. I would suggest to maybe stack 4 on the head of 00:35:876 (5) - instead since it wouldn't be as out of the blue that way. Fixed
  2. 00:38:923 (1,2,3,4,5) - There's a very prominent 1/4 heavy melody part here that the map just ignores and I think it would be very fitting to map to that instead of to the bass that's been kinda the same since the start of the kiai. Using more 1/4 sliders and circles would be nice, and it would provide an opportunity to introduce jumps that would better prepare the player for 01:15:486 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and so on. Same for 00:53:923 - This was pointed out before and yea my response is gonna be similar. If the strong beat you are talking about 00:39:040 - this one then yes it just doesn't stand out to me enough for me to map it . Listening the song on 25% i can tell that it somewhat exists but its hardly anything compared to the sounds on 00:39:275 - 00:39:157 - to my ears
  3. 01:00:486 (1,2) - Plays very awkwardly compared to 01:00:954 (1,2) - which in the song has higher tension but in the map is much much easier to hit. Ctrl+G'ing 01:00:603 (2) - would fix that but you'd need to move 01:00:251 (4) - due to the reverse being hidden then. Alright tried something ,should be much better
  4. 01:00:954 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - This square played horribly with how you enter and the sort of harsh flow you demand relative to how you spaced 01:02:361 (1,2). I would really suggest to make 01:02:361 (1,2) - go more rightwards like https://i.imgur.com/MHweIxT.png. Well i actually wanted to have a circular movement between 01:01:423 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - and thats what the pattern currently has Even when the map goes through 01:02:361 (1,2,3) - these notes, the movement is circular and its not that bad at all to me since thats what i wanted to achieve. The pattern you suggested breaks the flow i wanted at 01:02:478 (2) - since the movement becomes totally opposite of what i have on previous notes
  5. 01:02:712 (3,1) - This was fairly awkward to hit too considering you force a stop on 1 then have massive spacing for the triangle into slider 01:02:946 (1,2,3,1) - which requires so much change in movement it feels like it overemphasizes the sounds. I think unstacking 1 and moving it so it's more like https://i.imgur.com/1SOBVPH.png would be nice but it kills the triangle pattern. Imo it's worth changing since it really feels weird to play lol. ok did something here ,same to 01:06:696 (1,2,3) -
  6. 01:09:157 (1,2) - Would be nice to angle this downwards instead of the same as 01:08:689 (1,2) - since the pitch changes? Something like https://i.imgur.com/Ll8EHWb.png? Fixed it in a different way .I kept 01:08:689 (1,2) - these as how they were though
  7. 01:10:564 (3,3) - Also came across as hard to read since 3 is completely covered by the slider end and with how fast the notes come into play it's not enough time to fully fade out. A slight overlap or something would be nice. Same thing for 01:12:439 (3,3) - uh this one, is totally fine like i did do some testplays myself and asked others for testplays ,this one didnt rise as a problem. While some of the other ones you pointed above and i fixed were the ones i was already considering so ya


Seems mostly fine rhythm and whatnot just some flow and readability issues I'd like to see addressed.

Hyper
  1. 00:38:923 (1,2,3,4) - Same-ish thing as topdiff. 1/4 heavy section here ignored completely and oversimplified. Could use more 1/4 in this. Uh yea, same thing

I'm somewhat concerned mainly of the gap between Standard and Hyper. Hyper has 12 note streams whereas Standard only uses some 1/2 and no 1/4 at all. It would make sense to either nerf this difficulty and use max 5-note streams with repeats on the end or buff the Standard and risk it turning into a pseudo-hyper and then have to make another diff. I think nerfing the streams in this is the safer and less taxing option. What you can also do is buff the lowest diff slightly then use 1/4 in the Stanard as well. The Beginner diff still has .37* wiggle room to make more 1/2 patterns in. Either option you take is up to you, but the spread between Standard and Hyper is not okay right now. Alright so here is what i did. I introduced a few more 1/2 rhythms in beginner then i bumped the amount of 1/2's in Standard. I added quite some 1/2's and even introduced some 1/4 slider ends in there. The SR didn't change much but i don't think that matters lol the rhythm is much denser in here. And finally after that i nerfed most of the streams in hyper and even the SR went down a fair amount. The streams at 00:46:423 - 00:52:986 - 01:08:689 - 01:15:486 - And yeah those are probably the only main streams that were long and now they are not even close to how hard they were before

Tl;dr:
  1. Reading issues and an entire outstanding melodic line ignored should be addressed.
  2. NiNo's Another has a massive difficulty spike at the end with the spaced sliderstream, SV notwithstanding and a couple of reading issues.
  3. Gap between Hyper and Standard is too wide. There's too much 1/4 in the Hyper and not enough progression from Standard, that uses only somewhat more 1/2 than the lowest diff.


Depending on what you change, you may call me back, as the stuff in the tl;dr are mostly dealbreakers.

Alright about the contrast between my and nino's difficulty. Thats not a problem. The Insane is a GD and GD's are upto GD'ers. You can try going to the thread of https://osu.ppy.sh/s/473066 this map and check the stuff there. Nino's difficulty in that set too has a section which is more dense than my extra but the map got through without a problem. I at first didn't agree to that but the BN's were like my argument is wrong. "GD's are upto GD'ers , their style can differ from yours" is what people said. There are even more examples of difficulty contrasts like this. For instance https://osu.ppy.sh/b/879807 this set. The third last difficulty is way harder than the top difficulty and that point wasn't even considered as something "problematic"

In summary, i did stuff about reading issues and the spread between hyper and standard. Those two things should be better now but about the insane difficulty having difficulty spike, isn't that something casual in nowadays mapping ? :eyes:

Thanks for the detailed mod!
i do hope i make sense in this response tbh
posted

DeRandom Otaku wrote:


Alright about the contrast between my and nino's difficulty. Thats not a problem. The Insane is a GD and GD's are upto GD'ers. You can try going to the thread of https://osu.ppy.sh/s/473066 this map and check the stuff there. Nino's difficulty in that set too has a section which is more dense than my extra but the map got through without a problem. I at first didn't agree to that but the BN's were like my argument is wrong. "GD's are upto GD'ers , their style can differ from yours" is what people said. There are even more examples of difficulty contrasts like this. For instance https://osu.ppy.sh/b/879807 this set. The third last difficulty is way harder than the top difficulty and that point wasn't even considered as something "problematic"

In summary, i did stuff about reading issues and the spread between hyper and standard. Those two things should be better now but about the insane difficulty having difficulty spike, isn't that something casual in nowadays mapping ? :eyes:

Thanks for the detailed mod!
i do hope i make sense in this response tbh


Despite it being the same as your diff it's a diff spike relative to the difficulty of the map itself. As in, for the Another individually the spike is excessive. It's a splitstream with kicksliders Hanzer-style introduced at the end of the map. The previous streams were either only splitstreams and flowed fairly easily at low spacing or things like 00:50:642 (3,4,5) - which play well. The stream at the end is such an outlandish difficulty spike even within the map's own difficulty that I believe it should be nerfed. I only brought up the comparison between your and NiNo's diff to highlight how hard it actually is.

Standard
  1. 01:11:736 (1) - These could be 3/4 slider+circle on the end like this https://i.imgur.com/9sBOEnv.jpg since 01:12:087 - actually has a sound. Would be nice to have passive 1/4 gaps here for these. 01:13:025 -
  2. Same can be done for 00:49:236 (1) - 00:49:704 - and 00:52:986 (1) - 00:37:986 (1) - etc


Hyper
  1. 00:45:486 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - These could be made into reverses so that it contrasts more with 00:46:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - being clickable. I'm still not sure I agree with having 1/4 sliders in hyper since with how much 1/4 there already is it seems like a little much to use them in this way.
  2. 00:38:689 (5) - Most of these can be made single circles, the 1/4 slider adds too much complexity and the gap is already fragile as it is from Standard.
  3. 01:01:423 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Stream shapes like this might be a bit too complicated as well, try to lower the spacing or make it more straightforward to follow? This bend at 01:01:774 (4,1,2) - seems like a bit much to demand from someone playing at this level.


Maybe it's best if you get more opinions on the spread and post them in the thread so I can get a better idea of where people stand on this. I still think Standard -> Hyper is too wide despite your changes mainly since Hyper only got slightly easier and Standard barely changed at all regarding 1/4.

Ex
  • 00:38:923 (1,2,3,4,5) - There's a very prominent 1/4 heavy melody part here that the map just ignores and I think it would be very fitting to map to that instead of to the bass that's been kinda the same since the start of the kiai. Using more 1/4 sliders and circles would be nice, and it would provide an opportunity to introduce jumps that would better prepare the player for 01:15:486 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and so on. Same for 00:53:923 - This was pointed out before and yea my response is gonna be similar. If the strong beat you are talking about 00:39:040 - this one then yes it just doesn't stand out to me enough for me to map it . Listening the song on 25% i can tell that it somewhat exists but its hardly anything compared to the sounds on 00:39:275 - 00:39:157 - to my ears
  1. Then slider end 00:39:040 - ? It would be way more representative if you mapped that at least with passive rhythm since you already ignore half of the beats here with either slider ends or just skipping them completely. 00:39:040 - 00:39:157 - 00:39:509 - are all gone from clicking even though this section justifies more clicking imo. I get you wanna simplify but 00:38:923 (1) - skips a very noticeable sound so I suggest at least sliderend or reverse.


Ex looks fine now albeit a bit messy on the parts of 01:06:696 (1,2,3,1). Could make them more clean like https://i.imgur.com/MwY5Pwm.png or something. Spread is still ?_? though.
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Fixed everything except for 00:45:486 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - these in hyper. I did try nerfing these and trust me the difficulty lost its status of being a "hyper" difficulty, its nerfed enough for now and the bump in standard now makes the spread more reasonable (I hope) (I added a lot more 1/4's in standard) i will see what you have to say about it. I also fixed the thing in ex.

About the 1/8 slider stream in nino's difficulty at end, i do agree about it with you, i will see what nino does.

Thanks again!!
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NiNo's Another
  1. I feel like it would be appropriate to NC each iteration of 00:33:298 (4,5,6,7) - since they happen quite often and seem quite distinct from the rest of the sounds playing there. You also did it for 00:35:173 (1,2,3,4,5) - where it worked well.
  2. 00:36:931 (4,5) - Making this blanket would not only look nicer but play much more fluidly.nah the spacing 5>1 should be larger since the sound at 1 in stronger dats why i map like this, ur suggestion would cause the spacing from 3>4 larger however the sound on 4 isnt a strong sound to used larger spacing
  3. 00:37:986 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Curious as to why this is much harder to read than 00:52:986 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - ? Make the last one harder or make the first easier it doesn't really make sense to have one pseudo-reading-challenge and the other be fairly straightforward. (I say reading challenge because for the target audience this is probably ambiguous) idk why u consider first part is hard to read, to me is a pretty common stacking patterns like every other insanes
  4. 01:08:689 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think this is the only thing I really can't agree with. I get these are strong sounds but it's basically the same as what was done on Ex and as an Another it would be most appropriate to simplify this. You can keep the sliders but at the very least make the spacing less Hanzer and more like https://i.imgur.com/ii1tmTJ.png and do something about the jump to 01:09:392 (1) - which is very difficult to hit for this difficulty level. Not to mention the slider itself plays very unintuitively compared to how the entry angle and exit angle are in comparison to 01:09:861 (1) - which could cause sliderend drops.
  5. It's also a bit weird how 01:09:861 - despite being more of a buildup section is mapped less intensely than the section before it despite building up to an intesity that exceeds the previous section.cuz the sound here isnt wubby lol
  6. 01:16:892 (1) - This plays weird due to its speed and abrupt end where the sound still goes. The map ends as the sound this slider is following is still playing so I would suggest to extend it to the white tick, make a reverse, or slow the SV so it reaches the white tick.


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tfw discord log LUL
Ren - Today at 6:23 PM
@Cerulean Veyron did u check the thing
sry i had to go for a bit
lol

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:24 PM
ya i did

Ren - Today at 6:24 PM
so what do u think

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:24 PM
ok so uhmm
spread is somewhat p consecutive
but the scale of the objects are seriously rapid ofc
density for short
like e.g. the std diff, you use 1/4 snappings not very often around some parts, only at times where audible 1/4 notes in the song track lands and u did mapped those
e.g. 00:46:423 -
ya i kinda agree that the density spread is not ok
... in spite of structure xd

Ren - Today at 6:26 PM
alright

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:26 PM
but in std diff, but there isnt any triplets because its some Advanced diff or some unknown diff between normal and hard
and hyper has like, a lot of long and short 1/4 streams,
indicates a really huge difference in comparison to std diff, regarding the rhythm
speaking about rhythm, i do think u need to calm down the hyper diff ;p

Ren - Today at 6:27 PM
alright

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:27 PM
look over the diff range with this std diff https://puu.sh/yezVW/fcd67e8130.png

and hype https://puu.sh/yezUB/76f1656944.png

Ren - Today at 6:28 PM
nope if i calm down hyper even a bit more, like even a single stream, the hyper wont be hyper anymore
i will bump hyper and add a diff in between

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:28 PM
that wud make it even more worse xd
i dont mean like, nerf the streams or sth

Ren - Today at 6:28 PM
wHaT

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:29 PM
just smol nerf on emphasis
or just remove 1/4 notes those doesnt sound audible

Ren - Today at 6:30 PM
can u point some

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:30 PM
ofc 00:47:361 -
aroudn that part, maybe 00:46:423 (1,2,3,4) - , u could just make it sliderkick repeat or sth
same here 01:01:423 (1,2,3,4) -
ok ig that's it
gud execution of patterns btw

@Ren u gud?

Ren - Today at 6:33 PM
o lets see
uh yeah talking with map
MOM*
wtf
lol

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:34 PM
talking with map owo

Ren - Today at 6:34 PM
oh and thanks owo

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:34 PM
no problem o//
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Cerulean Veyron wrote:

tfw discord log LUL
Ren - Today at 6:23 PM
@Cerulean Veyron did u check the thing
sry i had to go for a bit
lol

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:24 PM
ya i did

Ren - Today at 6:24 PM
so what do u think

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:24 PM
ok so uhmm
spread is somewhat p consecutive
but the scale of the objects are seriously rapid ofc
density for short
like e.g. the std diff, you use 1/4 snappings not very often around some parts, only at times where audible 1/4 notes in the song track lands and u did mapped those
e.g. 00:46:423 -
ya i kinda agree that the density spread is not ok
... in spite of structure xd

Ren - Today at 6:26 PM
alright

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:26 PM
but in std diff, but there isnt any triplets because its some Advanced diff or some unknown diff between normal and hard
and hyper has like, a lot of long and short 1/4 streams,
indicates a really huge difference in comparison to std diff, regarding the rhythm
speaking about rhythm, i do think u need to calm down the hyper diff ;p

Ren - Today at 6:27 PM
alright

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:27 PM
look over the diff range with this std diff https://puu.sh/yezVW/fcd67e8130.png

and hype https://puu.sh/yezUB/76f1656944.png

Ren - Today at 6:28 PM
nope if i calm down hyper even a bit more, like even a single stream, the hyper wont be hyper anymore
i will bump hyper and add a diff in between

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:28 PM
that wud make it even more worse xd
i dont mean like, nerf the streams or sth

Ren - Today at 6:28 PM
wHaT

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:29 PM
just smol nerf on emphasis
or just remove 1/4 notes those doesnt sound audible

Ren - Today at 6:30 PM
can u point some

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:30 PM
ofc 00:47:361 -
aroudn that part, maybe 00:46:423 (1,2,3,4) - , u could just make it sliderkick repeat or sth
same here 01:01:423 (1,2,3,4) -
ok ig that's it
gud execution of patterns btw

@Ren u gud?

Ren - Today at 6:33 PM
o lets see
uh yeah talking with map
MOM*
wtf
lol

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:34 PM
talking with map owo

Ren - Today at 6:34 PM
oh and thanks owo

Cerulean Veyron - Today at 6:34 PM
no problem o//

^ he helped me to make the spread between hyper and standard smoother
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nino plssssssss https://i.imgur.com/jSPNTmQ.png can you at least make it like this or something it's still super ridiculous that jump from 5,6,1 is literally expert level

thats the only thing keeping me from bubbling right now lol
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wats the different lol :thinking:
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posted
the difference is it's no longer a split stream of massive proportions and the jump from 5,6,1 doesn't give me trauma

looks fine now, bubbled
posted
passin thru mapfeed xd
consider adding the original ost composer "Akiyuki Tateyama 立山秋航" to tags too.

GL for rank o/
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