1. Dark (5.81 stars, 1864 notes)

• 
  [Dank]

1. Overall the map looks solid, although your rhythm choices are questionable at parts where the vocal kicks in and you follow it accurately, since it deliberately ignores the metronome which makes the map too unpredictable at times. On the other hand, you also tried to stick too hard to vocals and thus left away accents to the other stuff that's going on in the music, which i believe you could highlight more:
   00:46:002 (1) - Irregular snapping which returns strange feedback to the player IMO. Would stick closer to the background instruments.
   01:03:472 (4) - Circle + slider instead.
   01:31:884 (1,2,3) - This is similar to the above, divide 3 into a 1/4 slider and a 1/4 repeatslider. Other example would be 01:43:178 (1,2,3) -
   01:08:943 - 02:26:993 - These are the sketchiest parts of the map where there's so little happening in the background that you're tempted to follow vocals hardcore. Still I'd advice you to put focus on the piano at this part since this is what keeps the rhythm stable at this point - vocals are pretty wonky, I think you noticed that already. Might be tough to come up with something viable at this, so i made an example for the 1st part below:
   
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2. 00:13:531 (6,7) - Really big jump in comparison to similar ones following afterwards, tone it down.
3. 00:48:649 (6) - Tried deleting this and stacking the next slider on the previous ministream? Seems to better emphasize the music.
4. 01:40:355 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The constant spacing in this stream doesn't represent well what you're hitsounding, expect more diversity. It's not unrankable for sure, but it could be done better
5. 03:16:712 (1,2,3) - If you like to screw up players you can keep it. Otherwise it's better to make this a repeatslider instead
6. 03:14:947 (1,2) - Make this one slider, see if it works out for you since this way there's better emphasis on the finish
7. 03:17:771 (1,2) - One big slider instead, white tick with the finisher would be emphasized much better this way
8. 03:20:947 (1,2,3,4) - better if you simplify rhythm here, this is pretty hard to catch
9. 03:24:300 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4) - This kind of destroys the integrity of the map, why suddenly switching to vertical/horizontal sliders only? Sure it's the majestic solo part, but this drifts way off from this map's style.
10. 03:50:241 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I clearly hear 8 notes here instead of 6, though the first one does happen earlier than expected in the track. Better to simplify in this case.
11. 03:53:683 (4,4) - stronger hitsounds on the tails ow
12. 04:01:535 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - this one's weird, you do follow the lead guitar well, but it feels so off the regular rhythm and undermapped due to the constant 1/4 beats in the background that it might be better if you don't follow it at all. Idk, this one's tough

Pho wrote:

this took me longer than i wanted to lol

• 
  [Dank]

1. Overall the map looks solid, although your rhythm choices are questionable at parts where the vocal kicks in and you follow it accurately, since it deliberately ignores the metronome which makes the map too unpredictable at times. On the other hand, you also tried to stick too hard to vocals and thus left away accents to the other stuff that's going on in the music, which i believe you could highlight more:
   00:46:002 (1) - Irregular snapping which returns strange feedback to the player IMO. Would stick closer to the background instruments. I think the large gap to the next object has already compensated enough for the irregularity. That is also to make the player realise it was the vocal i was following
   01:03:472 (4) - Circle + slider instead. was strictly following vocals since it's very prominent here.
   01:31:884 (1,2,3) - This is similar to the above, divide 3 into a 1/4 slider and a 1/4 repeatslider. Other example would be 01:43:178 (1,2,3) - was following vocals which is made very consistently throughout the track. I might consider it if you were to have more arguments on this
   01:08:943 - 02:26:993 - These are the sketchiest parts of the map where there's so little happening in the background that you're tempted to follow vocals hardcore. Still I'd advice you to put focus on the piano at this part since this is what keeps the rhythm stable at this point - vocals are pretty wonky, I think you noticed that already. Might be tough to come up with something viable at this, so i made an example for the 1st part below: got your idea
   
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   wew took me a long while
2. 00:13:531 (6,7) - Really big jump in comparison to similar ones following afterwards, tone it down. f
3. 00:48:649 (6) - Tried deleting this and stacking the next slider on the previous ministream? Seems to better emphasize the music. kinda like following the violin a bit here
4. 01:40:355 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The constant spacing in this stream doesn't represent well what you're hitsounding, expect more diversity. It's not unrankable for sure, but it could be done better eh it's actually accelerating?
5. 03:16:712 (1,2,3) - If you like to screw up players you can keep it. Otherwise it's better to make this a repeatslider instead it was a repeat until testplayers said it was too underwhelming.
6. 03:14:947 (1,2) - Make this one slider, see if it works out for you since this way there's better emphasis on the finish concept in the guitar solo is to follow the guitar as closely as possible unless an extremely dominant instrument comes in, which is not the case for the drums here.
7. 03:17:771 (1,2) - One big slider instead, white tick with the finisher would be emphasized much better this way nah the stress on the guitar is structured throughout this whole part to be on the red tick, not the white tick.
8. 03:20:947 (1,2,3,4) - better if you simplify rhythm here, this is pretty hard to catch yeah rip 1/8
9. 03:24:300 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4) - This kind of destroys the integrity of the map, why suddenly switching to vertical/horizontal sliders only? Sure it's the majestic solo part, but this drifts way off from this map's style. already planned to change this, also nerfing that changed sr from 5.9 to 5.8 wtf
10. 03:50:241 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I clearly hear 8 notes here instead of 6, though the first one does happen earlier than expected in the track. Better to simplify in this case. changed to 1/4
11. 03:53:683 (4,4) - stronger hitsounds on the tails ow ow
12. 04:01:535 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - this one's weird, you do follow the lead guitar well, but it feels so off the regular rhythm and undermapped due to the constant 1/4 beats in the background that it might be better if you don't follow it at all. Idk, this one's tough i'll get more opinion on this, i get why you bring this up but i did try to compensate the undermapping with SV.

I'm just mildly impressed, but the map certainly has nice parts. Good luck with it

Asuka_- wrote:

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01:30:825 (1,1) - remove nc (consistent with 01:41:767 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ) yesyes
03:14:947 (1) - I think the player seems difficult to read here. maybe stack 03:14:506 (2) - ? https://i.gyazo.com/d2204095bc1a9d15171 ... 8c0e7d.png didn't really like that, moved this a bit -> no more perfect stack.
04:43:888 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - In order to emphasize kiai, I think that it is better to distinguish this rhythm outside kiai from rhythm inside kiai. it's the same idea as 04:56:506 (8,1) - this, the point where it starts decreasing in spacing. But mainly because the transition is very powerful here.
05:31:535 - 5%

good map gl

TheKingHenry wrote:

Hello M4M from my queue~

Dark

1. Add some more tags? Like for example, even in your mod request you had symphonic metal but not here :thinking: For others, stuff like the album this song is from or such are cool yeah added some, but haven is the album name it's already there.
2. 00:31:796 (8,1) - I think this could work better if 8 wasn't almost directly overlapping the next stream (as in, the jump in the transition would be clearer if that didn't happen) fixed
3. 00:34:708 (1,2,3) - slightly more spacing? Almost reminds of the 1/4 spacing with the snares (same with the others) music contrast for those snares and guitar is way too high for the player to misread, there's also a 1/1 gap for the player to read the situation
4. 01:19:708 (2,4) - this would be better if stacked instead tbh, considering the section seems hella clean instead of the overlapping type sure
5. 01:34:708 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - switch the NCs to the kicksliders instead (that way you don't have weird combos like 01:34:708 (1) - or 01:35:943 (1,2) - ) Same with all these I like the 1 2 3 being on the same combo colour -> more recognisable
6. 02:10:708 (6,1) - stack? no idea what happened
7. 02:16:002 (1,2) - fix blanket (more like, that curve of 02:16:178 (2) - doesn't look that smooth sure
8. 02:38:816 (2,4) - same stack stuff f
9. Same stuff again for the chorus same
10. 03:14:153 (8,1) - doesn't seem like this spacing is intended (more like, shouldn't be, it's not smooth at all and it should probably be larger than the last one) fixerino f
11. 03:14:947 (1) - stack with the sliderend of 03:14:241 (1) - ? ^
12. 03:24:300 (1) - uh, remove NC? y
13. 03:34:183 (1,1) - remove NC and NC 03:34:359 (3) - instead, better structure (03:34:006 (1,3) - are the emphasised places anyways same reason as to why I didn't do the NC for the thing in the chorus
14. 03:56:506 - pretty strong sound to ignore tbh would make the snares less emphasised if I mapped the kicks
15. 04:01:535 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - wow lad that sounds p weird mapped like this. Like, okay the guitar is somewhat like that, but couldn't this be mapped as smth more logical as a map? Just mapping it as 1/4 and emphasising the (weird) guitar places could possibly make it sound better. But if you keep it as is, atleast have it only the sliders for the guitars, the circles in-between are what make it confusing, since that kind of stuff emphasises stuff like triples (which in this case doesn't fit) Think 'bout it Testplayers prove it otherwise though. The whole concept of the solo is to try and follow the guitar as close as possible, especially in cases like this. The circles are actually added for playability since having a sliderend on a white tick is quite jarring. The guitar emphasis on the blue ticks are very strong so I'm confident about players being able to read this.
16. 04:19:183 (5,6,7,2) - couldn't you tune it so that 04:20:065 (2) - ïsn't ugly overlapping one of the circles. There are multiple ways to fix, but simply re-arraging the patterns so that sliderhead of 04:20:065 (2) - is on 04:19:359 (7) - instead is enough and pretty easy to do here I think fixed with a straight slider structure
17. 04:33:124 (1,1,1) - kinda bothers me how 04:33:124 (1,1) - are perfectly stacked but 04:33:477 (1,1) - ain't but I guess you can't really help it here lol, not sure how i could fix this tbh, would make the pattern too ugly if i moved it manually.
18. 04:43:888 (1,2,3,4,5) - make slightly more curvy? Would look better than this leading to the fairly strong (low spacing) curve that is 04:44:241 (5,6,7,8,1) - 04:45:300 (1,2,3,4,5) - would be a bit less consistent with this, looks worse imo
19. 04:45:300 - was already thinking where the fuck is the female vocalist from the preview hahaha i trick pipol
20. 05:02:947 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - not really against following vocals, but when it makes up stuff like this, hmm. Not that it is really wrong tho yeah the vocal line here is unique compared to other sections so i have to map it
21. 05:18:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - looks kinda broken, this curve (same at 05:19:889 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - tbh, not looking like smooth circular based curves) fixed
22. Map the outro? Current seems like it's just ending outta nowhere (well, I guess that impression is mostly coming from the fact that vocals and instruments aren't at the same beat at 05:30:477 - ) nah the outro is too boring, also the slider ends at where the guitar weep ends.
23. Not bad song tbh. Haven't heard of this band before, gotta check what kind of stuff they have

Good luck!

0109- wrote:

m5m https://osu.ppy.sh/s/491650

m6m

Krad

Tiếng soft-hitfinish2 xịn <3 hihi

1. 00:05:414 (1) – NC đoạn này hơi lạ, mấy chỗ xung quanh đang NC đập đập đổi âm gì đó (?) mà ở đây không hiểu theo cái gì.. Nên chắc switch NC sang 00:05:767 (2) – chứ? theo câu của violin
   
2. 00:10:002 (1,1,1,1) – density đoạn này hơi ít so với đống stream đằng sau khiến có cảm giác hơi bất ngờ. Thay bằng kiểu 4 cái ¾ sliders tăng sv dần trông nó thú vị với một phần để players cảm nhận được nhịp độ của map tăng dần. Đoạn này cần phân biệt rõ cái intro so với phần sau vì hai cái intensity rất khác. Density ít so với đoạn sau vì trong bài là như vậy.
   
3. 00:13:884 (7) – Cái hướng của slider này cảm giác khá ngẫu nhiên khiến không được bắt mắt lắm. Biết là để thuận hướng cái stream tiếp theo nhưng nó trông cứ kiểu hơi cẩu thả. Đoạn này có thể chỉnh lại vị trí của cái 00:13:531 (6) – đồng thời 2 cái note trước nữa sao cho đối xứng với cái (7) thì trông đỡ hơn. có chỉnh 1 tí.
   
4. 00:22:355 (4,5,6) – Cảm giác rhythm hơi khác, hai cái 00:22:531 (5,6) – thực sự không hiểu bay ngược lại với cái (4) để làm gì khi nhạc không có biến đổi to lớn lắm. Đoạn này thực sự thấy đổi rhythm lại thành https://puu.sh/wYMtB/8934672a16.jpg để thậm chí có thể emphasize được 00:22:708 (1) – tốt hơn. Nhấn theo snare, đuôi slider ko có snare nên ko nhấn. Cái (1) nhấn bằng cách đổi direction rõ ràng mà.
   
5. 00:25:884 (1,2) – không hiểu tại sao tự nhiên có 2 cái kick sliders ở đây khi nhạc không thấy khác gì hoặc em bị điếc ạ @@, mà tiếng finish hay <(“) bell ở đây có rhythm như vậy nên map theo bell xd.
   
6. 01:02:767 (2,3,4) – Rhythm đoạn này loạn quá @@, đang chủ yếu emphasize instruments mà tự nhiên quay sang nhấn hết vào vocal cảm giác hơi dì dị. Chỗ này 1 là đặt giống chỗ 00:51:649 (6) - hoặc là map đoạn 00:51:649 (6) – theo vocal chút để kiểu consistent việc map theo vocal ở đoạn dịu. Vocal chỗ này nổi bật hơn hẳn so với những chỗ khác nên ở đây theo sát vocal, cộng thêm tăng contrast cho lúc vocal xuống và guitar lên.
   
7. 01:29:061 (1,1,1) – không chắc map kiểu này ổn không vì nó vẫn lên combo free ấy .. vẫn thích kiểu mấy sliders tăng sv lên dần hơn. Có tiếng trống dồn đang tăng dần.
   
8. 01:37:884 (2,3,4,5) – Cái map nhiều lúc dùng kiểu nhấn nửa vời bựa quá @@, cái (2) đang theo vocal rồi 3 cái sao quay sang violin (?). Mấy chỗ trước có vẻ đang theo đều vocal thì chắc cái (3) có thể thay bằng 1 cái kick slider rồi quay sang violin (?) sau. Nếu sửa nhớ sửa cả mấy chỗ sau như 01:49:355 (3,4,5) - ... Rhythm nguyên ô này là theo vocal. Nếu để ý thì rhythm đoạn stream này có cấu trúc theo vocal và theo trống (dồn 1/4) xen kẽ nhau.
   
9. 03:46:712 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) – không muốn đống này stack lắm, mà cũng không hiểu sao lại đi stack @@ tiếng violin (?) bay lên bay xuống mà không để cho nó ít chỗ. theo tiếng guitar. Rhythm ở đây khó bắt hơn nên stack mới còn read đc.
   
10. 04:45:124 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5) – ngoặt điên quá kiểu này không ổn =)), riêng việc đổi spacing của stream sau spinner đã hơi ảnh hưởng đến playability 1 chút rồi giờ lại còn cho ngoặt tỉ độ mà cũng chả hiểu đang cố emphasize cái gì luôn . Đoạn cuốn 04:45:477 (3,4,5,6,7,8) – cũng chả hiểu sao lại cuốn lại, không liên quan đến vocal hay drum gì lắm. Rồi đoạn sau 04:46:271 (4,5,6,7,8) – đang mở rộng spacing ra để làm cái gì =)). Bản thân thấy đoạn này cứ thế mà để stream bình thường thôi @@. stream cong lớn như vậy là để emphasise vocals và lead vào chorus cuối, đổi spacing stream là concept chung của bài, đã đến đây rồi thì người chơi phải nắm được.
    
11. 05:01:006 (1,2,3) – symmetry với 05:01:359 (1,2,3) - ? đang xoắn vòng vào trong, symmetry thì ko xoắn đc.

Càng về sau càng chớt chát do map dài consistency các kiểu ạ
Map hay <3 chỉ cần polish thêm mấy thứ thui
Không soi siếc NC blanket shape j nhiều do hơi ngại ạ

Shoga wrote:

Star fall :O

Starfy wrote:

Hello

[General]
-The first and second combo colour are too similar imo, maybe set a sharper colour for second combo to contrast and emphasize their differences.

[Dark]
-Why not mute the slider slide? It sounds a bit annoying in the calm parts. If you need the wav file: http://puu.sh/xnd9R/601d167a42.wav link doesn't work but I've found one. Thanks!
-00:05:414 (1,2) - Swap the NC? The slider is in a downbeat instead of the circle so I guess it's better to swap them to make a more consistent hitsound pattern. I normally would, but the idea is the previous combo was for the piano whereas this was for the cello.
-00:10:002 (1,1,1,1) - Why not add some greenlines to increase their volume? You can see that the volume is gradually rising, and it is really cool for you to change the volume to emphasize that. For example, 30% volume for the first note, 35% volume for the second note and so on. oh that's really nice, applied!!
-00:49:355 (1,2) - Swap the NC makes more musical sense! same idea as changing the emphasis on what instrument i'm following xd
-01:02:589 (1) - The NC seems unnecessary ^, this time for the vocals
-01:03:472 (4,1,3) - My idea is that NC 01:03:472 (1,1) - and cancel the NC of 01:04:355 (1) - and 01:05:767 (1) - . The current NC pattern is not consistent since you normally add NC in every downbeat, but you didn't do the same thing in this part. because I only follow the vocals on occasions where it becomes significantly more important than the instruments. The verse extends to 2 downbeats here and keeping it in one combo makes that stand out more.
-01:09:296 (1) - NC it for consistent NC pattern xd
-01:17:767 (3) - You NC-ed every downbeat so... NC it! ^
-01:31:531 (1) - Cancel the NC to make the NC pattern consistent ooops fixed
-01:44:237 (4) - It seems too far? The distance between 01:32:414 (3,4) - is 2.68 but it is 4.97 in this part. But you didn't make a dramatical distance change of 01:43:178 (1,2,3) - for further emphasis. It seems a little bit inconsistent so maybe place the 01:44:237 (4) - a bit nearer? yesyes
-01:57:649 (2,3,4) - Why not NC all of them to emphasize that the sliders and the sounds are going slow. I tried that but it looked a bit too overemphasised for my taste xd
-02:05:061 (1) - The sound looks not that accurate, maybe try the rhythm that you did in 00:46:002 (1) - must have moved that slider somehow while hitsounding >_> nice catch!
-02:06:472 (3) - Try to unify the way that you emphasize the sound? You emphasize 00:47:414 (3) - and 02:06:472 (3,4) - very differently but they share the similar sound. And it looks not really consistent. uh the first one was following the vocals, the second one the vocals is a bit different so I chose to follow the guitar. But I'll unify this to follow the guitar, it's more fitting overall
-02:09:296 (1) - NC it, just like what you did in 01:01:531 (1) - unified
-02:16:002 (1) - The NC is not really necessary shifting to vocals here xd
-02:28:404 (1) - , 02:36:875 (3) - NC them for better consistency of NC pattern on my version it's still consistent though
-03:03:300 (1) - , 03:03:300 (4) - NC them since you NC-ed 02:52:006 (1) - and 02:53:065 (1) - unified NCing in this section of the choruses
-04:35:771 (2,3,4) - YAA NC them all to emphasize the sounds and sliders are going slow xd as explained
-04:33:477 (1,1,1,1) - Not really worth to be NC-ed since they are under the same SV and beat true

-00:11:414 (1) - This part is a bit awkward since the stream pattern in kiai part is 8+8 notes stream pattern. But you used 12 notes stream pattern in this part. It plays a bit weird since it didn't really match the music, and the NC pattern forced to be awkward because of the stream pattern that you used in this part. The strong guitar(?) sound started in 00:12:825 (2) - constantly but you already made a new set of pattern and NC in 00:12:472 (1) - and it didn't really emphasize the beats well. But the guitar already starts playing 00:12:472 (1) - here though, I was just following the main melody, since there isn't anything else to follow here really.


Mature mapping! Good luck with the set!

Mir wrote:

Hitsounding
- 00:00:120 - I think softer sampleset would work here instead of the drum one since intro is pretty chill. Lowering the volume to about 5-10% and then increasing from there might be nice too cuz I feel like the intro is a bit loud as well. nice

Dark
Edgy diffname owob hehe

- 02:20:414 (3,4) - I feel like this could be a regular triple since the jump to 4 doesn't seem very necessary and would give 02:20:767 (5,6,7) - more emphasis since you'd have to move for these after the triple. Just an idea. guitar's there so I wanted to make the movement a bit faster.
- 03:14:947 (1,2) - This was very easy to misread as the slider coming first due to the hitburst on the end of 03:14:241 (1). I think https://i.imgur.com/c3hwfNu.png might work nicer. If you do this though maybe nerf 03:14:594 (3,4) - a bit... stack on 03:13:800 (4) - ? I nerfed the double to a stack instead of spaced so the movement isn't as awkward. Also removed stack so it's a bit easier. Keeping spacing for 03:14:771 (4) - though since the guitar is quite paramount still
- 03:26:947 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - This whole part looks a bit out of place.. I think doing it in a more symmetrical manner like 03:24:477 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - might work but as it is the 90 degree slider thing looks ?_? 03:26:947 (1,2,3,4) - maybe something like https://i.imgur.com/vWXFn9J.png could work yeah it's more symmetrical now, should be a bit better.
- 04:20:065 (2,3,4) - Equal distance would be nice here. yes

Metadata link would be nice. Quoting Kwan:

References:
https://shop.napalmrecords.com/kamelot- ... diton.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDLZ6Mqy7AM

Didn't see anything outstanding otherwise. Call me back! Lasse should post soon after this.

Lasse wrote:

fuck jumps tbh oops

https://shop.napalmrecords.com/kamelot-haven-cd.html same as current
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDLZ6Mqy7AM video upload is a bit different, but current should be fine since both are official

soft-sliderslide should be unused since whole map is either drum custom or soft default, which both don't use it switched to custom soft 1 actually, I don't like the sliderslide at calm sections.
02:49:536 - missing kiai on red line fixed


00:22:355 (4,5,6,1) - this one just felt really unfomfortable on my first few plays. but no real idea how to change yeah kinda hate that too, made 00:22:531 (5,6,1) - into a manual stack so the player doesn't need to adjust aim way too much.
01:32:414 (3) - ever considered making this and similar into a triple + repeat? I think that would still follow vocals well, but be a bit less underwhelming rhythmically, accentuate melody on 01:32:590 - (which is also nice since the other 2 sliders before also land on melody) and play well, same for other repeats of this length in each chorus idk it feels a bit off to me, maybe because the vocal line is really catchy here so shifting the accentuation make it like i'm following something else.


other things were already mentioned by mir lol