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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 27 October 2017 at 19:44:31

Artist: KAMELOT
Title: Liar Liar (Wasteland Monarchy)
Tags: haven power symphonic progressive metal Alissa White-Gluz arch enemy
BPM: 170
Filesize: 9821kb
Play Time: 05:30
Difficulties Available:
  1. Dark (5.81 stars, 1864 notes)


Download: KAMELOT - Liar Liar (Wasteland Monarchy)
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kd pls
18:19 LMT: i just made a new map, do you want to take a look?
18:19 BOUYAAA: ye
18:19 *LMT is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1329273 Kamelot - Liar Liar (Wasteland Monarchy)]
18:20 BOUYAAA: bancho == retard
18:20 LMT: it's been pretty ded lately lol
18:26 BOUYAAA: mmmh
18:26 BOUYAAA: it's pretty good
18:27 BOUYAAA: There are some thigns i'd do differently though
18:27 LMT: feel free to point them out
18:28 BOUYAAA: 00:13:178 (3,4,5,6) - i prefer it when the kickslider points away from the pattern like here 00:16:002 (3,4,5,6) -
18:28 BOUYAAA: makes it more readable for me somehow
18:28 BOUYAAA: differentiates the triple better
18:29 BOUYAAA: 00:22:178 (3,4,5) - sometimes transitions are very uncomfortable to play because spacing changes while angles being very obtuse
18:30 LMT: 00:22:355 (4,5,6) - this i agree ye , gonna change it
18:30 BOUYAAA: 00:47:414 (3) - ignored vocals are very noticeable in the slow parts
18:31 BOUYAAA: 00:57:296 (1,2,3) - same here tbh it's so much more noticeabel than the feint synth
18:31 LMT: 00:57:296 (1,2,3) - this is more like violin
18:31 BOUYAAA: 00:58:355 (4) - and then there is also that super noticeableguitar on the sliderend which is a bit awkward
18:31 LMT: which comes in play here i think
18:31 BOUYAAA: 01:00:472 (8) - ye$
18:32 BOUYAAA: 01:02:767 (2,3) - and then suddently vocal focus xd
18:32 BOUYAAA: 01:13:884 (3) - should be snapped to blue
18:33 LMT: 01:02:767 (2,3) - this is more noticeable imo
18:33 BOUYAAA: 01:16:355 (1) - a good way of representign vocals in this case is to somehow put the kink where vocals land
18:34 BOUYAAA: imo it's not because 01:02:237 (1,2,3,4,1) - focuses on an instrument so at least i do not rly interpret vocals there. Might just be me though
18:35 BOUYAAA: 01:23:590 - if focus is on vocal you should map these
18:35 LMT: 01:02:237 (1,2,3,4,1) - tbh this thing kinda dilutes the vocals but like it's been so consistent so i can't ignore it
18:35 BOUYAAA: 01:34:708 (1) - nice nc
18:36 LMT: 01:23:414 (1) - ye
18:36 LMT: 01:34:708 (1) - lol how should i do this differently
18:36 BOUYAAA: chorus is where i had trouble with rythm a bit
18:36 LMT: like i'm kinda stuck lol
18:36 BOUYAAA: things are done well and consistently
18:37 BOUYAAA: however i think the triple should be on 01:35:061 (3) -
18:37 BOUYAAA: and not on the red tick before
18:37 BOUYAAA: that way emphasis is put on the strong beat
18:38 LMT: shouldn't the emphasis on the slider?
18:38 BOUYAAA: imo
18:38 BOUYAAA: slider doesn't emphasize much
18:38 BOUYAAA: i usually use it as a "fast" transition to the strong beat
18:38 LMT: ye but like when you play triple the last note has the most emphasis tho
18:38 BOUYAAA: makes much more sense to me
18:39 BOUYAAA: the last note of a stream rarely emphasizes anything
18:40 BOUYAAA: in your specific case at least i think it's make more sense to have the spacing and the triple on the strong beat
18:40 BOUYAAA: up to you
18:40 BOUYAAA: both work
18:40 BOUYAAA: i just think one is better xd
18:40 LMT: i'll think about it but like visually the slider as an emphasis makes more sense to me
18:40 BOUYAAA: 01:37:531 (1,2,3) - on thise i thought you emphasized vocals but i imagine you had drums in mind
18:41 LMT: like it looks and rhythmically makes more sense
18:41 BOUYAAA: idk
18:41 LMT: the reason why i didn't map the vocals on the previous measure and map it on this measure is cus
18:41 LMT: like later on on the last kiai
18:42 LMT: with the female vocals it is very different but like rhythm is the same
18:42 BOUYAAA: ye
18:42 LMT: 05:02:947 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) -
18:42 BOUYAAA: abotu that
18:42 BOUYAAA: if you wanna keep that pattern i suggest yopu hitsound vocals heavily
18:42 BOUYAAA: cuz i was like "????"
18:43 LMT: yea
18:43 BOUYAAA: even though it's right
18:43 LMT: hitsounds are so needed here lol
18:43 BOUYAAA: yea lol
18:43 LMT: but like that's what i thought would be correct
18:43 BOUYAAA: can work imo
18:43 BOUYAAA: withoût it it was rather confusing
18:44 BOUYAAA: real question
18:44 BOUYAAA: 02:26:993 - why are these not mapped as sliders
18:44 BOUYAAA: xd
18:44 BOUYAAA: 02:29:816 -
18:45 BOUYAAA: you map half the held vocals as sliders too so why not the other ones
18:46 BOUYAAA: other thing my head has trouble with
18:46 LMT: 02:26:590 (1) - like a slow down is needed here and i don't want to overmap the sliderend lol
18:46 BOUYAAA: but that is not necessarely an issue
18:46 BOUYAAA: overmazpping the sliderend is not a thing
18:46 BOUYAAA: especially when you have such a noticeable continuous sound
18:47 LMT: also there's a timing point there
18:47 BOUYAAA: 02:27:875 - also sound here
18:47 LMT: 02:26:590 (1) - uhhh that's like the guy is inhaling lol
18:47 BOUYAAA: i said sound
18:47 BOUYAAA: xd
18:48 LMT: xd
18:49 LMT: don't think i want to map that sound
18:49 BOUYAAA: 03:16:359 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - very hard to predict because
18:49 BOUYAAA: 03:14:947 (1,2) - and 03:14:241 (1,2,3) -
18:50 LMT: yea it was originaly repeats
18:50 BOUYAAA: i'd do repeats then
18:50 LMT: but like testplayers said it was underwhelming lol
18:50 LMT: i could do 1 repeat
18:52 LMT: and i spaced them a bit more
18:52 LMT: so you can see the followpoints
18:52 BOUYAAA: 04:09:300 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - nice patterns B)
18:52 LMT: XD
18:53 LMT: tbh i fucking love that pattern you used in that gd
18:53 BOUYAAA: 04:19:888 - that is what i'd call an underwhelming section
18:53 BOUYAAA: i'd probably abuse circles a bit more here
18:54 BOUYAAA: just so that heavy guitar feels like it's played
18:54 BOUYAAA: or something
18:54 BOUYAAA: 04:31:888 (1) - 1 2 3 xd
18:54 LMT: ye but like vocals is so strong here
18:54 LMT: oh i mean
18:55 LMT: it's meant to give contrast to
18:55 LMT: 04:33:124 (1,1,1) - stuff like these
18:55 BOUYAAA: repeats
18:55 BOUYAAA: same thing
18:55 BOUYAAA: just represents prominent soudns better
18:55 LMT: hmm could do that
18:56 BOUYAAA: 05:00:830 (1,3) - these soudn so offbeat idk xd
18:57 LMT: the underwhelming section
18:57 BOUYAAA: 04:59:947 (1) - here it at least lands on stuff
18:57 LMT: cus vocals lol
18:57 BOUYAAA: ye ik
18:58 LMT: yea about the underwhelming section
18:58 LMT: like uhh i can't ignore vocals
18:59 BOUYAAA: i'd just triple on them and not end the triple on them xd
18:59 BOUYAAA: prolly the fact that the whoel section is pretty much a deathstream that bothers me so much
18:59 LMT: 04:22:712 (1,2,3) - was talking about this xd
18:59 LMT: this section
18:59 BOUYAAA: o
19:00 BOUYAAA: yea i'm aware that you mapped vocals
19:00 BOUYAAA: keep in mind yoû don't have to change anything
19:00 BOUYAAA: just giving you my thoughts
19:00 LMT: but that wouldn't improve it either :^)
19:01 BOUYAAA: my reasoning is more that the guitar section is kinda special so i'd focus on guitar more
19:01 BOUYAAA: ye that's not what i'm saying either
19:01 LMT: i think we're talking about different things uhh
19:02 LMT: right so uhh what's the topic again
19:02 BOUYAAA: idk
19:02 BOUYAAA: xd
19:02 LMT: xd
19:02 BOUYAAA: 04:26:129 - this section?
19:04 LMT: ye
19:05 BOUYAAA: idk i was kinda monologuing
19:05 BOUYAAA: i'm lost
19:05 BOUYAAA: sorry
19:05 BOUYAAA: xd
19:05 LMT: lollll
19:06 LMT: ok só like how would you make that section denser rhythmically
19:06 BOUYAAA: there wasn't much more after that tbh
19:06 BOUYAAA: apart from the hitsound thing which we covered already
19:06 BOUYAAA: map is pretty fun tho
19:06 BOUYAAA: streams are cool
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p u s h
01:19 *Hikan is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1329679 CINDERELLA PROJECT - Star!! [Hikan's Extra]]
01:19 Hikan: diff em anh oii
01:20 Hikan: testplay roi chui vai cau dc ko a
01:20 LMT: u
01:20 LMT: co ma chua warmup
01:20 LMT: lul
01:23 Hikan: fc D;
01:24 LMT: 00:06:218 (1) - sao xài rhythm này
01:25 LMT: uh theo bell cơ mà
01:25 LMT: sao k xài repeat
01:25 Hikan: vocal?
01:26 Hikan: 1/1 thấy êm hơn
01:26 LMT: vocal 3 nốt mà
01:26 LMT: 01:10:768 (1,1) - tao misread chỗ này
01:27 Hikan: ủa vậy hả
01:27 LMT: 01:11:948 (2) - pls delete xd
01:27 Hikan: không đeo headphone nghe ko rõ
01:27 Hikan: pp xd
01:28 LMT: uh thế thôi
01:29 Hikan: oki thx a
01:29 LMT: 00:42:117 (3) - à
01:29 LMT: đây nữa
01:29 LMT: nhấn vẫn là trắng lul
01:30 LMT: t cũng misread chỗ đấy
01:30 Hikan: thế tách 2 circle luôn nhé?
01:30 LMT: ừa
01:31 LMT: cơ mà t đang tính remap mấy phần k stream
01:31 LMT: lul
01:31 LMT: tại khác mọi ng quá
01:31 LMT: với cả kiểu flow dị quá cũng k nên
01:31 Hikan: D;
01:31 Hikan: rank dị mới meme
01:31 LMT: thôi cho yami đỡ đau đầu
01:32 LMT: lol
01:32 LMT: cái đống stream đủ dị r`
01:34 Hikan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8403825 cái này
01:34 Hikan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8403835
01:34 Hikan: vs cái này, cái nào dc hơn?
01:35 Hikan: cái đầu mới emphasis dc tick trắng
01:35 LMT: cái sau thì đúng tính chất của nhạc hơn lol
01:35 LMT: ko tại
01:35 LMT: 00:42:117 (3,4,1,2) -
01:35 LMT: tại 2 cái khác biệt nhau
01:35 LMT: ko nên thành pattern
01:36 LMT: à thật ra
01:36 LMT: để thế cũng được
01:36 Hikan: để thế nào lol
01:36 LMT: tại để giống cái thứ 2 thì 00:42:791 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - giống cái đống này quá
01:36 LMT: thứ 1 đi
01:36 Hikan: ok
01:36 Hikan: flow bố đời
01:39 LMT: dm
01:39 *LMT is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1329273 Kamelot - Liar Liar (Wasteland Monarchy)]
01:40 LMT: đang hitsound k nhờ mày đc
01:40 LMT: cơ mà rảnh thì xem qua hộ
01:40 Hikan: ok đợi tẹo
01:43 Hikan: 01:17:237 (2) - 1/3?
01:44 Hikan: stream anh hay mấy khúc quẹo
01:44 Hikan: chả ai map dc thế cả :)))
01:45 LMT: đm sry
01:45 LMT: vừa chạy lên ném đồ vào máy giặt lol
01:45 LMT: k 3/4 đó ku
01:45 Hikan: 02:25:708 (2,3,4) - khác gap
01:46 Hikan: bg
01:46 Hikan: anime pls
01:46 Hikan: disable count down xd
01:47 LMT: à yes
01:47 LMT: xd
01:48 LMT: ok fixed
01:49 Hikan: 01:14:061 - 1/1 ở đây thì sao?
01:49 Hikan: nghe vocal còn ngân
01:49 LMT: nhưng nhấn ở đó
01:50 Hikan: 01:22:090 - nhấn? xd
01:51 LMT: uh vocal sida vl
01:51 LMT: nhưng mà nó nhấn blue t nghĩ thế
01:51 Hikan: 02:01:531 (1) - này như cái dick
01:52 LMT: :(
01:54 Hikan: mặt nạ thì sao?
01:55 LMT: ý là hình mặt nạ á
01:55 Hikan: ừa
01:55 Hikan: kéo 2 đầu sâu vô tí là dc
01:55 LMT: sợ k đủ, chờ tí
01:55 Hikan: nhưng mà nó dài :v
01:57 Hikan: 02:22:002 - cái này hình như vẫn nhấn tick trắng mà
01:57 Hikan: nếu nhấn vocal thì, 02:16:002 (5) -
01:57 Hikan: inconsis
01:58 LMT: 02:16:002 (5,6,7) - đổi đây
02:00 Hikan: 02:49:228 (1) - cái này anh thử tăng sv lên tí
02:00 Hikan: cho nó shock
02:00 Hikan: 1.5x
02:01 Hikan: soon
02:02 LMT: ok
02:02 Hikan: 03:08:594 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - đoạn này nếu dc anh để vòng tròn luôn
02:02 Hikan: nhìn nó hơi ghê
02:03 LMT: tròn thì thứ nhất là k đủ circle =))
02:03 LMT: thứ 2 là k hợp theme lắm tại toàn dùng kiểu này
02:03 Hikan: thì bự ra
02:03 Hikan: rip
02:04 LMT: :(
02:04 LMT: spacing có concept muh
02:04 Hikan: 03:16:359 - stream hỗn hợp vl :)))
02:04 LMT: đoạn solo rhythm vcl luôn
02:05 Hikan: 03:15:300 (1) - cái này thấy nó không ăn nhạc lắm
02:05 Hikan: tại nó chơi nguyên tràng mà shape một cục
02:05 Hikan: tràn*
02:06 Hikan: a bỏ bớt cái red anchor đầu dc
02:06 Hikan: cho nó nhìn dài chút
02:07 Hikan: 03:24:477 (2) - thấy hơi overmap
02:07 LMT: osu.ppy.sh/ss/8404094 uh...
02:08 LMT: overmap hay overdone
02:08 Hikan: cái tiếng guitar điện làm nó nghe overmap
02:08 LMT: guitar 1/2 mà
02:08 Hikan: cái tiếng đéo gì ấy nhỉ :/
02:09 LMT: 03:24:477 (2) - ở đây chắc chắn có tiếng mà
02:09 Hikan: em chả nghe gì ngoài drum ở đấy cả
02:10 LMT: và guitar???
02:10 LMT: 03:26:947 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ở đây ý đồ còn rõ hơn
02:11 Hikan: 03:24:388 - guitar ở đây mà :V
02:11 Hikan: hay em bị điếc
02:11 LMT: nó vuốt thôi
02:11 LMT: 03:24:300 - 03:24:388 - 03:24:477 - đều có
02:11 LMT: 03:24:300 - kéo nốt từ đây lên 03:24:477 -
02:11 LMT: thành ra 3 tiếng
02:12 Hikan: điếc mẹ rồi
02:12 Hikan: chả nghe gì ra dc 3 tiếng
02:14 Hikan: 04:02:771 (1,1) -
02:15 LMT: :)))
02:15 LMT: có cần kéo ngắn cái slider lại k
02:16 LMT: uh kéo ngắn lại vậy
02:16 Hikan: cũng cần
02:16 Hikan: :v
02:17 Hikan: à có câu hỏi
02:17 Hikan: 04:02:330 (3) - sao a ko start nó ở tick trắng luôn
02:17 Hikan: 04:01:888 (2) - như
02:17 LMT: tại guitar nó tick xanh
02:17 LMT: :))
02:18 Hikan: 2 cũng thế thôi
02:18 LMT: 2 tick trắng
02:18 LMT: =_=
02:18 Hikan: tick trắng drum mạnh hơn
02:18 Hikan: dm 2 tick xanh mà :c
02:18 LMT: nhưng t theo guitar =_=
02:19 Hikan: guitar ở tick xanh, nhưng nhấn ở tick trắng
02:19 LMT: uh xanh
02:19 LMT: t đổi (2) sang xanh
02:19 LMT: :))
02:20 Hikan: ngầu
02:21 Hikan: 04:41:771 (1,2,3) - followpoint này
02:21 LMT: tại vì kiểu concept là đã theo sát guitar đoạn solo r`
02:21 LMT: uh fixed
02:22 Hikan: 05:20:594 (1,2) - inconsistent shape? :c
02:23 LMT: ờ :v
02:23 LMT: 05:20:594 (1) - fixed đỡ cong
02:23 Hikan: 05:30:477 - đây thấy vẽ slider cái cho fit nhạc?
02:24 Hikan: dừng vậy hơi hững
02:24 LMT: ừa
02:24 Hikan: 00:05:767 (2) - nc
02:25 Hikan: mà
02:25 Hikan: chắc dc r
02:26 Hikan: 03:24:300 (1,2,1) - có kỳ thì thấy 3 cục này vẫn overmap lol
02:27 LMT: ??????
02:27 LMT: đéo???
02:27 Hikan: :)))
02:28 Hikan: personal
02:28 LMT: uh h kiểu
02:28 LMT: xóa 3 cái đó đi
02:28 LMT: ...
02:28 LMT: xong nghe
02:28 Hikan: 03:24:388 - anh thử cái 1/2 ở đây xem
02:29 Hikan: nhạc ở đoạn đấy nghe build up
02:29 Hikan: chứ không có consistent 1/4
02:29 Hikan: 1/2*
02:30 LMT: ?
02:31 LMT: build up cái gì vào đâu
02:31 Hikan: thôi kệ đi em cũng đéo biết mình nói gì
02:31 Hikan: ):
02:31 LMT: 03:24:477 (2) - t chắc chắn ở đâu có nốt :(
02:31 Hikan: 03:24:388 - tick xanh cơ
02:32 LMT: 03:26:947 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - xong còn cái này nữa rõ ý đồ hơn
02:32 LMT: cái đó là nó kéo từ đỏ lên xong nhấn ở trắng
02:33 Hikan: từ từ, em đeo headphone
02:33 Hikan: lul
02:33 LMT: =_=
02:33 LMT: vl mở loa đíu sợ phụ huynh ak
02:33 Hikan: phụ huynh chửi cái ngủ tiếp
02:33 Hikan: gg
02:33 LMT: gg
02:35 Hikan: rõ rãng guitar kéo từ tick xanh mà
02:35 Hikan: đoạn sau mới trắng đỏ thôi
02:35 LMT: 03:24:300 - ở đây đã ịu ịu rồi
02:35 Hikan: anh nghe lướt qua không thấy đằng trước chậm hơn đằng sau tẹo nào á?
02:36 LMT: tao ko nghe lướt solo bao giờ cả
02:36 Hikan: nhắm mắt lại nghe nào
02:37 LMT: tao thề
02:37 LMT: tao nghe kiểu gì
02:37 LMT: 03:24:300 - thì nó vẫn kéo từ đây
02:38 Hikan: chắc tai em vs tai anh khác nhau
02:38 Hikan: :)))
02:38 LMT: cái này chắc phải hỏi ng khác
02:38 LMT: t với mày cãi nhau thế này đến sáng đíu xong cái chỗ này lol
02:40 Hikan: =))))
02:40 Hikan: rip tai
02:40 LMT: lol
02:43 Hikan: 03:35:241 -
02:43 Hikan: ở đây còn nghe guitar nè, bỏ vậy có uổng ko
02:43 LMT: spinner :c
02:44 Hikan: tiếng ngân là của guitar mà nhỉ
02:44 LMT: ừ
02:44 Hikan: mà guitar thì end ở red
02:44 Hikan: :?
02:45 LMT: ý là t ko theo mỗi guitar
02:45 LMT: mà theo cái đống rhythm kia
02:45 Hikan: con mẹ
02:45 Hikan: orz
02:45 LMT: tại guitar chỗ này gần như k có rhythm lul
02:46 Hikan: 03:57:653 (1,2,3,4) - chỗ này overmap vl
02:46 Hikan: 1/4 mà
02:46 LMT: cho chú nghe lại 100 lần
02:46 Hikan: à guitar
02:46 LMT: xong bảo anh
02:47 Hikan: vậy thì
02:47 Hikan: 03:59:065 (5,6,7) -
02:47 Hikan: 1/6 nốt?
02:47 LMT: uh
02:47 LMT: để ý r
02:47 LMT: =))
02:48 Hikan: 04:03:300 (1,2,3,4) - cái này nó cũng ko thật sự 1/4 này :v
02:48 Hikan: lấy slider undermap?
02:49 Hikan: 2 cái 1/4 sliders ấy
02:50 LMT: 1 cái 1/4 thôi
02:50 LMT: 2 3 4 là có r`
02:50 LMT: 04:03:477 (2,3,4) -
02:50 LMT: có r
02:51 Hikan: 04:47:241 (3,4,5,6,7) - flow đoạn này hơi chúi
02:51 Hikan: à cũng ko sao tại nó giống stack hơn
02:51 LMT: ừa
02:51 LMT: chỗ đó t cũng k ưa
02:51 LMT: cơ mà tại lúc map hết chỗ thì phải
02:52 Hikan: 04:47:771 (4,5,6,7) - thế thì thử ctrl h
02:52 Hikan: xem
02:53 LMT: xoắn ngược với stream :(
02:53 LMT: cơ bản là cái stream sau nữa
02:53 Hikan: ồ
02:53 Hikan: vậy cho nó từ trên thẳng xuống là được r
02:54 LMT: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8404471
02:55 Hikan: ok
02:56 Hikan: thế được r, buồn ngủ
02:56 LMT: ok
02:56 LMT: à mà t hỏi
02:56 LMT: mày nghĩ t nên push cái này k
02:56 LMT: lol
02:56 Hikan: tđn bào check qua mà mod hẳn
02:56 Hikan: cũng đáng
02:57 LMT: cần kds thì quăng lên thread :v
02:57 Hikan: nhạc metal ít ai rank nên push cũng được ấy
02:57 LMT: ý là
02:57 Hikan: dc ko =)))
02:57 LMT: map đủ tốt k
02:57 Hikan: quá
02:58 LMT: xd ok
02:58 Hikan: stream thế chẳng thằng nào chửi được đâu
02:58 Hikan: :ok_hand:
02:58 Hikan: bn nhìn là phải đổ
02:58 LMT: xd chỉ sợ bị kêu rhythm bị chìm trong stream thôi :(
02:59 LMT: cơ mà rhythm vocal thưa vcl theo thì hụt vcl
02:59 Hikan: w8
02:59 Hikan: 03:00:830 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - chỗ này cao sao thu lại
03:00 LMT: "lái" thì cao
03:00 LMT: "ơ" thì ngang
03:00 LMT: "lài" thì xuống
03:01 LMT: "ớ" thì lên
03:01 Hikan: lol k
03:01 Hikan: xin kds xd
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00:45 LMT: mirmir
00:45 Mir: lmtlmt
00:45 LMT: interested in a map i just made? :D
00:46 *LMT is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1329273 Kamelot - Liar Liar (Wasteland Monarchy)]
00:46 LMT: in case you do
00:46 Mir: sec
00:49 Mir: lets take a look
00:49 Mir: 00:00:120 (1) - nice
00:49 LMT: thanks :3
00:50 Mir: 00:42:472 (1) - hmmmmmm
00:50 Mir: the beginning is a bit small compared to the rest of the slider lol
00:51 Mir: may just be preference
00:51 LMT: maybe
00:51 Mir: 01:13:796 (3) - ow
00:52 Mir: this is a really nice vocal on the end of this
00:52 Mir: i'd try to fit it on a slider at least :x
00:53 LMT: could do that
00:53 Mir: 01:41:679 (4,1,2) - also here doesn't feel like it has a lot of emphasis
00:53 Mir: despite being a major turning point of the kiai
00:53 Mir: 01:42:031 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - all the emphasis went here xD
00:55 LMT: just following the pitch, kinda
00:55 Mir: mmm maybe you can do that with a direction change?
00:55 LMT: pitch kinda goes like up to down to up
00:56 LMT: i tried that but like couldn't make something goood out of it
00:56 Mir: or something like this maybe http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8405756
00:56 LMT: mainly cus not enough spacing
00:56 Mir: wait
00:56 Mir: a
00:56 LMT: it would need to be too big
00:56 Mir: can i send on discord
00:57 LMT: loll
00:57 LMT: uhh sure
01:00 Mir: 01:53:414 (5) - also would you consider maybe deleting this note?
01:01 Mir: unless im deaf
01:01 Mir: the drums only hit 4 times
01:01 LMT: i think i hear a snare there
01:01 LMT: well ...
01:01 LMT: ok so 4 snares and 1 kick
01:01 LMT: ...
01:01 Mir: :thinking:
01:01 LMT: 3/4 gap after that is kinda meh
01:02 LMT: so i think i'll stick to 5 notes
01:02 Mir: okay
01:02 Mir: mm why is 02:06:472 (3) - so slow but 02:08:590 (1,3) - seem like the same sound as it
01:02 Mir: shouldn't the first one be the same speed?
01:03 LMT: yup my bad
01:03 Mir: 02:16:355 - AAAAAA rip snare
01:04 Mir: i don't even think you can fix that and follow the vocals 100% so
01:04 Mir: up to you what to do with it
01:04 Mir: sounds really weird cuz that's the only place you skip it for a lot of the map
01:04 LMT: ehh not the only place
01:04 LMT: but like vocals there is so iconic
01:05 Mir: for a lot of the map not the only place ever
01:05 Mir: i mean before that part it was never skipped and for a considerable time after it isn't skipped
01:05 Mir: but i do agree vocals are iconic there
01:06 Mir: i would do something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8405813 this rhythm but it'd slightly dilute the vocals
01:06 Mir: up to you
01:06 LMT: i tried that
01:06 LMT: but it was terrible :(
01:06 Mir: :(
01:06 LMT: it was like that before
01:07 Mir: 02:33:169 (4) - why no slider i sad
01:08 LMT: made a wave slider :D
01:08 Mir: :D
01:08 Mir: 02:44:287 (3) - same but less important
01:08 Mir: 02:49:257 (1,1,2) - oh i love this
01:08 LMT: yea but that could dilute the liar liar
01:08 Mir: throws you right into the stream
01:08 Mir: yeah true
01:09 LMT: yo the sv was suggested by hikan
01:09 LMT: like that felt too good lol
01:09 Mir: 03:17:065 (1,2,3,4) - am i deaf or is this also 1/3
01:09 Mir: hikan god
01:10 LMT: it's definitely 1/4 to me
01:10 Mir: musically makes more sense to be 1/3 too :x
01:10 Mir: maybe ask some others
01:10 Mir: but 03:19:712 (1,2,3) - is definitely not 1/6 this is 1/4
01:11 LMT: it's the guitar
01:11 Mir: the guitar is 1/4
01:11 LMT: it's a little inconsistent but there are definitely 4 notes there
01:11 LMT: it's like 1/4 to 1/8
01:11 LMT: but like that's bullshit to play lol
01:11 Mir: i mean here 03:29:594 (1,2,3,4) - it works
01:11 Mir: but the previous one feels like the 1/4 stands out way more than the 1/8
01:12 Mir: i'd simplify to 1/4 instead of 1/6
01:12 Mir: since simplifying 1/4 rhythm to 1/3 rhythm is bleh to me
01:12 LMT: i simplify 1/8 to 1/6
01:12 LMT: :(
01:12 LMT: no but
01:12 Mir: it's not exactly correct snapping tho
01:12 LMT: the intention is definitely 1/6
01:13 Mir: i don't know if it's rankable
01:13 LMT: cus look at all the 1/6 i used
01:13 Mir: yeah i can tell it's intended to be 1/6 but it just doesn't sound it
01:13 LMT: it's the same sound
01:13 LMT: it sounds like 1/6 to me like wut
01:13 LMT: 03:18:300 (1,2,3,4) - like the first time it occurs
01:13 LMT: it's definitely 1/6
01:14 Mir: yeah that's 1/6
01:14 Mir: but 03:19:712 (1,2,3,4) - isn't
01:14 LMT: 4 notes
01:14 LMT: in 1/2 gap
01:14 LMT: i mean what would you do
01:14 Mir: i'd make it a normal triple
01:15 LMT: but it's not 1/4
01:15 LMT: :(
01:15 Mir: but it is 1/4 :(
01:15 LMT: it is not :(
01:15 Mir: like the guitarist failed to recreate the same 1/6 he used before
01:15 LMT: there are definitely 4 notes there
01:15 Mir: so it makes no sense imo to map what he would have played when that's not what he played
01:15 Mir: if that makes sense..
01:15 Mir: idk but im 100% sure it's 1/4
01:16 LMT: he made it almost 1/6
01:16 Mir: either way i don't wanna argue here forever
01:16 Mir: LOL
01:16 Mir: lets just move on
01:16 LMT: yea lol
01:16 Mir: but keep it in mind i guess
01:16 LMT: i stand by my hearing that there are 4 notes there and cannot be 1/4
01:16 LMT: but yeah let's move on
01:17 Mir: 03:58:977 (4,1,2) - oof
01:17 Mir: i'd misread this as continuous 1/4
01:17 Mir: maybe move the 2 away more
01:17 Mir: so that i know clearly to stop on the 1
01:18 LMT: uhh yea
01:18 LMT: did
01:18 Mir: 04:19:183 (5) - would rather triple this cuz 04:19:006 (4) - is the same rhythm but in the song there isn't a triple snare
01:19 Mir: basically 5's triple seems ignored because 4 is the same
01:20 LMT: yea i did
01:20 Mir: oh female vocalist
01:20 Mir: nice.
01:20 Mir: 05:03:388 (4,5) - ctrl+g'ing this sounds more accurate
01:21 LMT: don't know if you notice
01:21 LMT: the death growls was sung by the same person who sung the female vocals in the chorus
01:21 Mir: i had no idea lol
01:21 Mir: the change is unreal
01:21 LMT: 05:03:388 (4,5) - uh why?
01:22 Mir: hmm because the vocal sounds closer to the blue than the red
01:22 Mir: to me
01:22 LMT: oh
01:22 LMT: right hmm
01:22 LMT: ya you're right
01:23 Mir: reverse slider?
01:23 Mir: maybe?
01:23 LMT: nah i just move the circle to 05:03:565 (5) -
01:23 LMT: =_=
01:23 Mir: ah okay
01:23 LMT: 05:03:653 (1) -
01:24 Mir: ah i kinda get the stream emphasis now
01:24 Mir: i think
01:24 LMT: :D
01:24 Mir: well that's all i can see from first glance
01:24 Mir: sick map
01:24 Mir: sick song
01:24 Mir: sick everything
01:25 LMT: :DDD thanks a lot man
01:25 LMT: yo it was really helpful
01:25 Mir: np my dude
01:25 LMT: if you need kds you can post it on the thread
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this took me longer than i wanted to lol


  • [Dank]
  1. Overall the map looks solid, although your rhythm choices are questionable at parts where the vocal kicks in and you follow it accurately, since it deliberately ignores the metronome which makes the map too unpredictable at times. On the other hand, you also tried to stick too hard to vocals and thus left away accents to the other stuff that's going on in the music, which i believe you could highlight more:
    00:46:002 (1) - Irregular snapping which returns strange feedback to the player IMO. Would stick closer to the background instruments.
    01:03:472 (4) - Circle + slider instead.
    01:31:884 (1,2,3) - This is similar to the above, divide 3 into a 1/4 slider and a 1/4 repeatslider. Other example would be 01:43:178 (1,2,3) -
    01:08:943 - 02:26:993 - These are the sketchiest parts of the map where there's so little happening in the background that you're tempted to follow vocals hardcore. Still I'd advice you to put focus on the piano at this part since this is what keeps the rhythm stable at this point - vocals are pretty wonky, I think you noticed that already. Might be tough to come up with something viable at this, so i made an example for the 1st part below:
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  2. 00:13:531 (6,7) - Really big jump in comparison to similar ones following afterwards, tone it down.
  3. 00:48:649 (6) - Tried deleting this and stacking the next slider on the previous ministream? Seems to better emphasize the music.
  4. 01:40:355 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The constant spacing in this stream doesn't represent well what you're hitsounding, expect more diversity. It's not unrankable for sure, but it could be done better
  5. 03:16:712 (1,2,3) - If you like to screw up players you can keep it. Otherwise it's better to make this a repeatslider instead
  6. 03:14:947 (1,2) - Make this one slider, see if it works out for you since this way there's better emphasis on the finish
  7. 03:17:771 (1,2) - One big slider instead, white tick with the finisher would be emphasized much better this way
  8. 03:20:947 (1,2,3,4) - better if you simplify rhythm here, this is pretty hard to catch
  9. 03:24:300 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4) - This kind of destroys the integrity of the map, why suddenly switching to vertical/horizontal sliders only? Sure it's the majestic solo part, but this drifts way off from this map's style.
  10. 03:50:241 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I clearly hear 8 notes here instead of 6, though the first one does happen earlier than expected in the track. Better to simplify in this case.
  11. 03:53:683 (4,4) - stronger hitsounds on the tails ow
  12. 04:01:535 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - this one's weird, you do follow the lead guitar well, but it feels so off the regular rhythm and undermapped due to the constant 1/4 beats in the background that it might be better if you don't follow it at all. Idk, this one's tough


I'm just mildly impressed, but the map certainly has nice parts. Good luck with it :)
posted

Pho wrote:

this took me longer than i wanted to lol


  • [Dank]
  1. Overall the map looks solid, although your rhythm choices are questionable at parts where the vocal kicks in and you follow it accurately, since it deliberately ignores the metronome which makes the map too unpredictable at times. On the other hand, you also tried to stick too hard to vocals and thus left away accents to the other stuff that's going on in the music, which i believe you could highlight more:
    00:46:002 (1) - Irregular snapping which returns strange feedback to the player IMO. Would stick closer to the background instruments. I think the large gap to the next object has already compensated enough for the irregularity. That is also to make the player realise it was the vocal i was following
    01:03:472 (4) - Circle + slider instead. was strictly following vocals since it's very prominent here.
    01:31:884 (1,2,3) - This is similar to the above, divide 3 into a 1/4 slider and a 1/4 repeatslider. Other example would be 01:43:178 (1,2,3) - was following vocals which is made very consistently throughout the track. I might consider it if you were to have more arguments on this
    01:08:943 - 02:26:993 - These are the sketchiest parts of the map where there's so little happening in the background that you're tempted to follow vocals hardcore. Still I'd advice you to put focus on the piano at this part since this is what keeps the rhythm stable at this point - vocals are pretty wonky, I think you noticed that already. Might be tough to come up with something viable at this, so i made an example for the 1st part below: got your idea
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    wew took me a long while
  2. 00:13:531 (6,7) - Really big jump in comparison to similar ones following afterwards, tone it down. f
  3. 00:48:649 (6) - Tried deleting this and stacking the next slider on the previous ministream? Seems to better emphasize the music. kinda like following the violin a bit here
  4. 01:40:355 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The constant spacing in this stream doesn't represent well what you're hitsounding, expect more diversity. It's not unrankable for sure, but it could be done better eh it's actually accelerating?
  5. 03:16:712 (1,2,3) - If you like to screw up players you can keep it. Otherwise it's better to make this a repeatslider instead it was a repeat until testplayers said it was too underwhelming.
  6. 03:14:947 (1,2) - Make this one slider, see if it works out for you since this way there's better emphasis on the finish concept in the guitar solo is to follow the guitar as closely as possible unless an extremely dominant instrument comes in, which is not the case for the drums here.
  7. 03:17:771 (1,2) - One big slider instead, white tick with the finisher would be emphasized much better this way nah the stress on the guitar is structured throughout this whole part to be on the red tick, not the white tick.
  8. 03:20:947 (1,2,3,4) - better if you simplify rhythm here, this is pretty hard to catch yeah rip 1/8
  9. 03:24:300 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4) - This kind of destroys the integrity of the map, why suddenly switching to vertical/horizontal sliders only? Sure it's the majestic solo part, but this drifts way off from this map's style. already planned to change this, also nerfing that changed sr from 5.9 to 5.8 wtf
  10. 03:50:241 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I clearly hear 8 notes here instead of 6, though the first one does happen earlier than expected in the track. Better to simplify in this case. changed to 1/4
  11. 03:53:683 (4,4) - stronger hitsounds on the tails ow ow
  12. 04:01:535 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - this one's weird, you do follow the lead guitar well, but it feels so off the regular rhythm and undermapped due to the constant 1/4 beats in the background that it might be better if you don't follow it at all. Idk, this one's tough i'll get more opinion on this, i get why you bring this up but i did try to compensate the undermapping with SV.


I'm just mildly impressed, but the map certainly has nice parts. Good luck with it :)


thanks a lot!!
posted
m4m

i use google transrate.
if you cant understand my wrote, send me pm xd

BG 1895x1066
Background images must be at a maximum of 1024x768 pixels for 4:3, 1366x768 pixels for 16:9. Although 1366x768 (16:9) is recommended, most background ratios that are 4:3 or 16:9 should also work reasonably well (for example, 800x600 or 852x480). Using an image with a different ratio is fine, but will result in letterboxing (black bars at the top/bottom of the screen) or upscaling (resized image to fill the whole screen).
from osu rc

01:30:825 (1,1) - remove nc (consistent with 01:41:767 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - )
03:14:947 (1) - I think the player seems difficult to read here. maybe stack 03:14:506 (2) - ? https://i.gyazo.com/d2204095bc1a9d15171 ... 8c0e7d.png
04:43:888 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - In order to emphasize kiai, I think that it is better to distinguish this rhythm outside kiai from rhythm inside kiai.
05:31:535 - 5%

good map gl
posted

Asuka_- wrote:

m4m

i use google transrate.
if you cant understand my wrote, send me pm xd perfectly understandable xd

BG 1895x1066
Background images must be at a maximum of 1024x768 pixels for 4:3, 1366x768 pixels for 16:9. Although 1366x768 (16:9) is recommended, most background ratios that are 4:3 or 16:9 should also work reasonably well (for example, 800x600 or 852x480). Using an image with a different ratio is fine, but will result in letterboxing (black bars at the top/bottom of the screen) or upscaling (resized image to fill the whole screen).
from osu rc fixedfixed

01:30:825 (1,1) - remove nc (consistent with 01:41:767 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ) yesyes
03:14:947 (1) - I think the player seems difficult to read here. maybe stack 03:14:506 (2) - ? https://i.gyazo.com/d2204095bc1a9d15171 ... 8c0e7d.png didn't really like that, moved this a bit -> no more perfect stack.
04:43:888 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - In order to emphasize kiai, I think that it is better to distinguish this rhythm outside kiai from rhythm inside kiai. it's the same idea as 04:56:506 (8,1) - this, the point where it starts decreasing in spacing. But mainly because the transition is very powerful here.
05:31:535 - 5%

good map gl

thank you for the mod!!
posted
Hello M4M from my queue~
Dark
  1. Add some more tags? Like for example, even in your mod request you had symphonic metal but not here :thinking: For others, stuff like the album this song is from or such are cool
  2. 00:31:796 (8,1) - I think this could work better if 8 wasn't almost directly overlapping the next stream (as in, the jump in the transition would be clearer if that didn't happen)
  3. 00:34:708 (1,2,3) - slightly more spacing? Almost reminds of the 1/4 spacing with the snares (same with the others)
  4. 01:19:708 (2,4) - this would be better if stacked instead tbh, considering the section seems hella clean instead of the overlapping type
  5. 01:34:708 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - switch the NCs to the kicksliders instead (that way you don't have weird combos like 01:34:708 (1) - or 01:35:943 (1,2) - ) Same with all these
  6. 02:10:708 (6,1) - stack?
  7. 02:16:002 (1,2) - fix blanket (more like, that curve of 02:16:178 (2) - doesn't look that smooth
  8. 02:38:816 (2,4) - same stack stuff
  9. Same stuff again for the chorus
  10. 03:14:153 (8,1) - doesn't seem like this spacing is intended (more like, shouldn't be, it's not smooth at all and it should probably be larger than the last one) fixerino
  11. 03:14:947 (1) - stack with the sliderend of 03:14:241 (1) - ?
  12. 03:24:300 (1) - uh, remove NC?
  13. 03:34:183 (1,1) - remove NC and NC 03:34:359 (3) - instead, better structure (03:34:006 (1,3) - are the emphasised places anyways
  14. 03:56:506 - pretty strong sound to ignore tbh
  15. 04:01:535 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - wow lad that sounds p weird mapped like this. Like, okay the guitar is somewhat like that, but couldn't this be mapped as smth more logical as a map? Just mapping it as 1/4 and emphasising the (weird) guitar places could possibly make it sound better. But if you keep it as is, atleast have it only the sliders for the guitars, the circles in-between are what make it confusing, since that kind of stuff emphasises stuff like triples (which in this case doesn't fit) Think 'bout it
  16. 04:19:183 (5,6,7,2) - couldn't you tune it so that 04:20:065 (2) - ïsn't ugly overlapping one of the circles. There are multiple ways to fix, but simply re-arraging the patterns so that sliderhead of 04:20:065 (2) - is on 04:19:359 (7) - instead is enough and pretty easy to do here I think
  17. 04:33:124 (1,1,1) - kinda bothers me how 04:33:124 (1,1) - are perfectly stacked but 04:33:477 (1,1) - ain't but I guess you can't really help it here
  18. 04:43:888 (1,2,3,4,5) - make slightly more curvy? Would look better than this leading to the fairly strong (low spacing) curve that is 04:44:241 (5,6,7,8,1) -
  19. 04:45:300 - was already thinking where the fuck is the female vocalist from the preview
  20. 05:02:947 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - not really against following vocals, but when it makes up stuff like this, hmm. Not that it is really wrong tho
  21. 05:18:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - looks kinda broken, this curve (same at 05:19:889 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - tbh, not looking like smooth circular based curves)
  22. Map the outro? Current seems like it's just ending outta nowhere (well, I guess that impression is mostly coming from the fact that vocals and instruments aren't at the same beat at 05:30:477 - )
  23. Not bad song tbh. Haven't heard of this band before, gotta check what kind of stuff they have
Good luck!
posted

TheKingHenry wrote:

Hello M4M from my queue~
Dark
  1. Add some more tags? Like for example, even in your mod request you had symphonic metal but not here :thinking: For others, stuff like the album this song is from or such are cool yeah added some, but haven is the album name it's already there.
  2. 00:31:796 (8,1) - I think this could work better if 8 wasn't almost directly overlapping the next stream (as in, the jump in the transition would be clearer if that didn't happen) fixed
  3. 00:34:708 (1,2,3) - slightly more spacing? Almost reminds of the 1/4 spacing with the snares (same with the others) music contrast for those snares and guitar is way too high for the player to misread, there's also a 1/1 gap for the player to read the situation
  4. 01:19:708 (2,4) - this would be better if stacked instead tbh, considering the section seems hella clean instead of the overlapping type sure
  5. 01:34:708 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - switch the NCs to the kicksliders instead (that way you don't have weird combos like 01:34:708 (1) - or 01:35:943 (1,2) - ) Same with all these I like the 1 2 3 being on the same combo colour -> more recognisable
  6. 02:10:708 (6,1) - stack? no idea what happened
  7. 02:16:002 (1,2) - fix blanket (more like, that curve of 02:16:178 (2) - doesn't look that smooth sure
  8. 02:38:816 (2,4) - same stack stuff f
  9. Same stuff again for the chorus same
  10. 03:14:153 (8,1) - doesn't seem like this spacing is intended (more like, shouldn't be, it's not smooth at all and it should probably be larger than the last one) fixerino f
  11. 03:14:947 (1) - stack with the sliderend of 03:14:241 (1) - ? ^
  12. 03:24:300 (1) - uh, remove NC? y
  13. 03:34:183 (1,1) - remove NC and NC 03:34:359 (3) - instead, better structure (03:34:006 (1,3) - are the emphasised places anyways same reason as to why I didn't do the NC for the thing in the chorus
  14. 03:56:506 - pretty strong sound to ignore tbh would make the snares less emphasised if I mapped the kicks
  15. 04:01:535 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - wow lad that sounds p weird mapped like this. Like, okay the guitar is somewhat like that, but couldn't this be mapped as smth more logical as a map? Just mapping it as 1/4 and emphasising the (weird) guitar places could possibly make it sound better. But if you keep it as is, atleast have it only the sliders for the guitars, the circles in-between are what make it confusing, since that kind of stuff emphasises stuff like triples (which in this case doesn't fit) Think 'bout it Testplayers prove it otherwise though. The whole concept of the solo is to try and follow the guitar as close as possible, especially in cases like this. The circles are actually added for playability since having a sliderend on a white tick is quite jarring. The guitar emphasis on the blue ticks are very strong so I'm confident about players being able to read this.
  16. 04:19:183 (5,6,7,2) - couldn't you tune it so that 04:20:065 (2) - ïsn't ugly overlapping one of the circles. There are multiple ways to fix, but simply re-arraging the patterns so that sliderhead of 04:20:065 (2) - is on 04:19:359 (7) - instead is enough and pretty easy to do here I think fixed with a straight slider structure
  17. 04:33:124 (1,1,1) - kinda bothers me how 04:33:124 (1,1) - are perfectly stacked but 04:33:477 (1,1) - ain't but I guess you can't really help it here lol, not sure how i could fix this tbh, would make the pattern too ugly if i moved it manually.
  18. 04:43:888 (1,2,3,4,5) - make slightly more curvy? Would look better than this leading to the fairly strong (low spacing) curve that is 04:44:241 (5,6,7,8,1) - 04:45:300 (1,2,3,4,5) - would be a bit less consistent with this, looks worse imo
  19. 04:45:300 - was already thinking where the fuck is the female vocalist from the preview hahaha i trick pipol
  20. 05:02:947 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - not really against following vocals, but when it makes up stuff like this, hmm. Not that it is really wrong tho yeah the vocal line here is unique compared to other sections so i have to map it
  21. 05:18:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - looks kinda broken, this curve (same at 05:19:889 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - tbh, not looking like smooth circular based curves) fixed
  22. Map the outro? Current seems like it's just ending outta nowhere (well, I guess that impression is mostly coming from the fact that vocals and instruments aren't at the same beat at 05:30:477 - ) nah the outro is too boring, also the slider ends at where the guitar weep ends.
  23. Not bad song tbh. Haven't heard of this band before, gotta check what kind of stuff they have
Good luck!


Thanks a lot for the mod!! I'll get to yours now.
posted
m5m https://osu.ppy.sh/s/491650
m6m
Krad

Tiếng soft-hitfinish2 xịn <3

  1. 00:05:414 (1) – NC đoạn này hơi lạ, mấy chỗ xung quanh đang NC đập đập đổi âm gì đó (?) mà ở đây không hiểu theo cái gì.. Nên chắc switch NC sang 00:05:767 (2) – chứ?
  2. 00:10:002 (1,1,1,1) – density đoạn này hơi ít so với đống stream đằng sau khiến có cảm giác hơi bất ngờ. Thay bằng kiểu 4 cái ¾ sliders tăng sv dần trông nó thú vị với một phần để players cảm nhận được nhịp độ của map tăng dần.
  3. 00:13:884 (7) – Cái hướng của slider này cảm giác khá ngẫu nhiên khiến không được bắt mắt lắm. Biết là để thuận hướng cái stream tiếp theo nhưng nó trông cứ kiểu hơi cẩu thả. Đoạn này có thể chỉnh lại vị trí của cái 00:13:531 (6) – đồng thời 2 cái note trước nữa sao cho đối xứng với cái (7) thì trông đỡ hơn.
  4. 00:22:355 (4,5,6) – Cảm giác rhythm hơi khác, hai cái 00:22:531 (5,6) – thực sự không hiểu bay ngược lại với cái (4) để làm gì khi nhạc không có biến đổi to lớn lắm. Đoạn này thực sự thấy đổi rhythm lại thành https://puu.sh/wYMtB/8934672a16.jpg để thậm chí có thể emphasize được 00:22:708 (1) – tốt hơn.
  5. 00:25:884 (1,2) – không hiểu tại sao tự nhiên có 2 cái kick sliders ở đây khi nhạc không thấy khác gì hoặc em bị điếc ạ @@, mà tiếng finish hay <(“)
  6. 01:02:767 (2,3,4) – Rhythm đoạn này loạn quá @@, đang chủ yếu emphasize instruments mà tự nhiên quay sang nhấn hết vào vocal cảm giác hơi dì dị. Chỗ này 1 là đặt giống chỗ 00:51:649 (6) - hoặc là map đoạn 00:51:649 (6) – theo vocal chút để kiểu consistent việc map theo vocal ở đoạn dịu.
  7. 01:29:061 (1,1,1) – không chắc map kiểu này ổn không vì nó vẫn lên combo free ấy .. vẫn thích kiểu mấy sliders tăng sv lên dần hơn.
  8. 01:37:884 (2,3,4,5) – Cái map nhiều lúc dùng kiểu nhấn nửa vời bựa quá @@, cái (2) đang theo vocal rồi 3 cái sao quay sang violin (?). Mấy chỗ trước có vẻ đang theo đều vocal thì chắc cái (3) có thể thay bằng 1 cái kick slider rồi quay sang violin (?) sau. Nếu sửa nhớ sửa cả mấy chỗ sau như 01:49:355 (3,4,5) - ...
  9. 03:46:712 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) – không muốn đống này stack lắm, mà cũng không hiểu sao lại đi stack @@ tiếng violin (?) bay lên bay xuống mà không để cho nó ít chỗ.
  10. 04:45:124 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5) – ngoặt điên quá kiểu này không ổn =)), riêng việc đổi spacing của stream sau spinner đã hơi ảnh hưởng đến playability 1 chút rồi giờ lại còn cho ngoặt tỉ độ mà cũng chả hiểu đang cố emphasize cái gì luôn :| . Đoạn cuốn 04:45:477 (3,4,5,6,7,8) – cũng chả hiểu sao lại cuốn lại, không liên quan đến vocal hay drum gì lắm. Rồi đoạn sau 04:46:271 (4,5,6,7,8) – đang mở rộng spacing ra để làm cái gì =)). Bản thân thấy đoạn này cứ thế mà để stream bình thường thôi @@.
  11. 05:01:006 (1,2,3) – symmetry với 05:01:359 (1,2,3) - ?


Càng về sau càng chớt chát do map dài consistency các kiểu ạ :(
Map hay <3 chỉ cần polish thêm mấy thứ thui
Không soi siếc NC blanket shape j nhiều do hơi ngại ạ :(
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m5m https://osu.ppy.sh/s/491650
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Krad

Tiếng soft-hitfinish2 xịn <3 hihi

  1. 00:05:414 (1) – NC đoạn này hơi lạ, mấy chỗ xung quanh đang NC đập đập đổi âm gì đó (?) mà ở đây không hiểu theo cái gì.. Nên chắc switch NC sang 00:05:767 (2) – chứ? theo câu của violin
  2. 00:10:002 (1,1,1,1) – density đoạn này hơi ít so với đống stream đằng sau khiến có cảm giác hơi bất ngờ. Thay bằng kiểu 4 cái ¾ sliders tăng sv dần trông nó thú vị với một phần để players cảm nhận được nhịp độ của map tăng dần. Đoạn này cần phân biệt rõ cái intro so với phần sau vì hai cái intensity rất khác. Density ít so với đoạn sau vì trong bài là như vậy.
  3. 00:13:884 (7) – Cái hướng của slider này cảm giác khá ngẫu nhiên khiến không được bắt mắt lắm. Biết là để thuận hướng cái stream tiếp theo nhưng nó trông cứ kiểu hơi cẩu thả. Đoạn này có thể chỉnh lại vị trí của cái 00:13:531 (6) – đồng thời 2 cái note trước nữa sao cho đối xứng với cái (7) thì trông đỡ hơn. có chỉnh 1 tí.
  4. 00:22:355 (4,5,6) – Cảm giác rhythm hơi khác, hai cái 00:22:531 (5,6) – thực sự không hiểu bay ngược lại với cái (4) để làm gì khi nhạc không có biến đổi to lớn lắm. Đoạn này thực sự thấy đổi rhythm lại thành https://puu.sh/wYMtB/8934672a16.jpg để thậm chí có thể emphasize được 00:22:708 (1) – tốt hơn. Nhấn theo snare, đuôi slider ko có snare nên ko nhấn. Cái (1) nhấn bằng cách đổi direction rõ ràng mà.
  5. 00:25:884 (1,2) – không hiểu tại sao tự nhiên có 2 cái kick sliders ở đây khi nhạc không thấy khác gì hoặc em bị điếc ạ @@, mà tiếng finish hay <(“) bell ở đây có rhythm như vậy nên map theo bell xd.
  6. 01:02:767 (2,3,4) – Rhythm đoạn này loạn quá @@, đang chủ yếu emphasize instruments mà tự nhiên quay sang nhấn hết vào vocal cảm giác hơi dì dị. Chỗ này 1 là đặt giống chỗ 00:51:649 (6) - hoặc là map đoạn 00:51:649 (6) – theo vocal chút để kiểu consistent việc map theo vocal ở đoạn dịu. Vocal chỗ này nổi bật hơn hẳn so với những chỗ khác nên ở đây theo sát vocal, cộng thêm tăng contrast cho lúc vocal xuống và guitar lên.
  7. 01:29:061 (1,1,1) – không chắc map kiểu này ổn không vì nó vẫn lên combo free ấy .. vẫn thích kiểu mấy sliders tăng sv lên dần hơn. Có tiếng trống dồn đang tăng dần.
  8. 01:37:884 (2,3,4,5) – Cái map nhiều lúc dùng kiểu nhấn nửa vời bựa quá @@, cái (2) đang theo vocal rồi 3 cái sao quay sang violin (?). Mấy chỗ trước có vẻ đang theo đều vocal thì chắc cái (3) có thể thay bằng 1 cái kick slider rồi quay sang violin (?) sau. Nếu sửa nhớ sửa cả mấy chỗ sau như 01:49:355 (3,4,5) - ... Rhythm nguyên ô này là theo vocal. Nếu để ý thì rhythm đoạn stream này có cấu trúc theo vocal và theo trống (dồn 1/4) xen kẽ nhau.
  9. 03:46:712 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) – không muốn đống này stack lắm, mà cũng không hiểu sao lại đi stack @@ tiếng violin (?) bay lên bay xuống mà không để cho nó ít chỗ. theo tiếng guitar. Rhythm ở đây khó bắt hơn nên stack mới còn read đc.
  10. 04:45:124 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5) – ngoặt điên quá kiểu này không ổn =)), riêng việc đổi spacing của stream sau spinner đã hơi ảnh hưởng đến playability 1 chút rồi giờ lại còn cho ngoặt tỉ độ mà cũng chả hiểu đang cố emphasize cái gì luôn :| . Đoạn cuốn 04:45:477 (3,4,5,6,7,8) – cũng chả hiểu sao lại cuốn lại, không liên quan đến vocal hay drum gì lắm. Rồi đoạn sau 04:46:271 (4,5,6,7,8) – đang mở rộng spacing ra để làm cái gì =)). Bản thân thấy đoạn này cứ thế mà để stream bình thường thôi @@. stream cong lớn như vậy là để emphasise vocals và lead vào chorus cuối, đổi spacing stream là concept chung của bài, đã đến đây rồi thì người chơi phải nắm được.
  11. 05:01:006 (1,2,3) – symmetry với 05:01:359 (1,2,3) - ? đang xoắn vòng vào trong, symmetry thì ko xoắn đc.


Càng về sau càng chớt chát do map dài consistency các kiểu ạ :(
Map hay <3 chỉ cần polish thêm mấy thứ thui
Không soi siếc NC blanket shape j nhiều do hơi ngại ạ :(


tyty <3
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Shoga wrote:

Star fall :O

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Hello

[General]
-The first and second combo colour are too similar imo, maybe set a sharper colour for second combo to contrast and emphasize their differences.

[Dark]
-Why not mute the slider slide? It sounds a bit annoying in the calm parts. If you need the wav file: http://puu.sh/xnd9R/601d167a42.wav
-00:05:414 (1,2) - Swap the NC? The slider is in a downbeat instead of the circle so I guess it's better to swap them to make a more consistent hitsound pattern.
-00:10:002 (1,1,1,1) - Why not add some greenlines to increase their volume? You can see that the volume is gradually rising, and it is really cool for you to change the volume to emphasize that. For example, 30% volume for the first note, 35% volume for the second note and so on.
-00:49:355 (1,2) - Swap the NC makes more musical sense!
-01:02:589 (1) - The NC seems unnecessary
-01:03:472 (4,1,3) - My idea is that NC 01:03:472 (1,1) - and cancel the NC of 01:04:355 (1) - and 01:05:767 (1) - . The current NC pattern is not consistent since you normally add NC in every downbeat, but you didn't do the same thing in this part.
-01:09:296 (1) - NC it for consistent NC pattern xd
-01:17:767 (3) - You NC-ed every downbeat so... NC it!
-01:31:531 (1) - Cancel the NC to make the NC pattern consistent
-01:44:237 (4) - It seems too far? The distance between 01:32:414 (3,4) - is 2.68 but it is 4.97 in this part. But you didn't make a dramatical distance change of 01:43:178 (1,2,3) - for further emphasis. It seems a little bit inconsistent so maybe place the 01:44:237 (4) - a bit nearer?
-01:57:649 (2,3,4) - Why not NC all of them to emphasize that the sliders and the sounds are going slow.
-02:05:061 (1) - The sound looks not that accurate, maybe try the rhythm that you did in 00:46:002 (1) -
-02:06:472 (3) - Try to unify the way that you emphasize the sound? You emphasize 00:47:414 (3) - and 02:06:472 (3,4) - very differently but they share the similar sound. And it looks not really consistent.
-02:09:296 (1) - NC it, just like what you did in 01:01:531 (1) -
-02:16:002 (1) - The NC is not really necessary
-02:28:404 (1) - , 02:36:875 (3) - NC them for better consistency of NC pattern
-03:03:300 (1) - , 03:03:300 (4) - NC them since you NC-ed 02:52:006 (1) - and 02:53:065 (1) -
-04:35:771 (2,3,4) - YAA NC them all to emphasize the sounds and sliders are going slow
-04:33:477 (1,1,1,1) - Not really worth to be NC-ed since they are under the same SV and beat

-00:11:414 (1) - This part is a bit awkward since the stream pattern in kiai part is 8+8 notes stream pattern. But you used 12 notes stream pattern in this part. It plays a bit weird since it didn't really match the music, and the NC pattern forced to be awkward because of the stream pattern that you used in this part. The strong guitar(?) sound started in 00:12:825 (2) - constantly but you already made a new set of pattern and NC in 00:12:472 (1) - and it didn't really emphasize the beats well.


Mature mapping! Good luck with the set!
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Starfy wrote:

Hello

[General]
-The first and second combo colour are too similar imo, maybe set a sharper colour for second combo to contrast and emphasize their differences.

[Dark]
-Why not mute the slider slide? It sounds a bit annoying in the calm parts. If you need the wav file: http://puu.sh/xnd9R/601d167a42.wav link doesn't work :( but I've found one. Thanks!
-00:05:414 (1,2) - Swap the NC? The slider is in a downbeat instead of the circle so I guess it's better to swap them to make a more consistent hitsound pattern. I normally would, but the idea is the previous combo was for the piano whereas this was for the cello.
-00:10:002 (1,1,1,1) - Why not add some greenlines to increase their volume? You can see that the volume is gradually rising, and it is really cool for you to change the volume to emphasize that. For example, 30% volume for the first note, 35% volume for the second note and so on. oh that's really nice, applied!!
-00:49:355 (1,2) - Swap the NC makes more musical sense! same idea as changing the emphasis on what instrument i'm following xd
-01:02:589 (1) - The NC seems unnecessary ^, this time for the vocals
-01:03:472 (4,1,3) - My idea is that NC 01:03:472 (1,1) - and cancel the NC of 01:04:355 (1) - and 01:05:767 (1) - . The current NC pattern is not consistent since you normally add NC in every downbeat, but you didn't do the same thing in this part. because I only follow the vocals on occasions where it becomes significantly more important than the instruments. The verse extends to 2 downbeats here and keeping it in one combo makes that stand out more.
-01:09:296 (1) - NC it for consistent NC pattern xd
-01:17:767 (3) - You NC-ed every downbeat so... NC it! ^
-01:31:531 (1) - Cancel the NC to make the NC pattern consistent ooops fixed
-01:44:237 (4) - It seems too far? The distance between 01:32:414 (3,4) - is 2.68 but it is 4.97 in this part. But you didn't make a dramatical distance change of 01:43:178 (1,2,3) - for further emphasis. It seems a little bit inconsistent so maybe place the 01:44:237 (4) - a bit nearer? yesyes
-01:57:649 (2,3,4) - Why not NC all of them to emphasize that the sliders and the sounds are going slow. I tried that but it looked a bit too overemphasised for my taste xd
-02:05:061 (1) - The sound looks not that accurate, maybe try the rhythm that you did in 00:46:002 (1) - must have moved that slider somehow while hitsounding >_> nice catch!
-02:06:472 (3) - Try to unify the way that you emphasize the sound? You emphasize 00:47:414 (3) - and 02:06:472 (3,4) - very differently but they share the similar sound. And it looks not really consistent. uh the first one was following the vocals, the second one the vocals is a bit different so I chose to follow the guitar. But I'll unify this to follow the guitar, it's more fitting overall
-02:09:296 (1) - NC it, just like what you did in 01:01:531 (1) - unified
-02:16:002 (1) - The NC is not really necessary shifting to vocals here xd
-02:28:404 (1) - , 02:36:875 (3) - NC them for better consistency of NC pattern on my version it's still consistent though
-03:03:300 (1) - , 03:03:300 (4) - NC them since you NC-ed 02:52:006 (1) - and 02:53:065 (1) - unified NCing in this section of the choruses
-04:35:771 (2,3,4) - YAA NC them all to emphasize the sounds and sliders are going slow xd as explained
-04:33:477 (1,1,1,1) - Not really worth to be NC-ed since they are under the same SV and beat true

-00:11:414 (1) - This part is a bit awkward since the stream pattern in kiai part is 8+8 notes stream pattern. But you used 12 notes stream pattern in this part. It plays a bit weird since it didn't really match the music, and the NC pattern forced to be awkward because of the stream pattern that you used in this part. The strong guitar(?) sound started in 00:12:825 (2) - constantly but you already made a new set of pattern and NC in 00:12:472 (1) - and it didn't really emphasize the beats well. But the guitar already starts playing 00:12:472 (1) - here though, I was just following the main melody, since there isn't anything else to follow here really.


Mature mapping! Good luck with the set!


Thanks a lot Starfy, I did go through a consistency check for NCs with my own concept.
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Hitsounding
- 00:00:120 - I think softer sampleset would work here instead of the drum one since intro is pretty chill. Lowering the volume to about 5-10% and then increasing from there might be nice too cuz I feel like the intro is a bit loud as well.

Dark
Edgy diffname owob

- 02:20:414 (3,4) - I feel like this could be a regular triple since the jump to 4 doesn't seem very necessary and would give 02:20:767 (5,6,7) - more emphasis since you'd have to move for these after the triple. Just an idea.
- 03:14:947 (1,2) - This was very easy to misread as the slider coming first due to the hitburst on the end of 03:14:241 (1). I think https://i.imgur.com/c3hwfNu.png might work nicer. If you do this though maybe nerf 03:14:594 (3,4) - a bit... stack on 03:13:800 (4) - ?
- 03:26:947 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - This whole part looks a bit out of place.. I think doing it in a more symmetrical manner like 03:24:477 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - might work but as it is the 90 degree slider thing looks ?_? 03:26:947 (1,2,3,4) - maybe something like https://i.imgur.com/vWXFn9J.png could work
- 04:20:065 (2,3,4) - Equal distance would be nice here.

Metadata link would be nice.

Didn't see anything outstanding otherwise. Call me back! Lasse should post soon after this.
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Mir wrote:

Hitsounding
- 00:00:120 - I think softer sampleset would work here instead of the drum one since intro is pretty chill. Lowering the volume to about 5-10% and then increasing from there might be nice too cuz I feel like the intro is a bit loud as well. nice

Dark
Edgy diffname owob hehe

- 02:20:414 (3,4) - I feel like this could be a regular triple since the jump to 4 doesn't seem very necessary and would give 02:20:767 (5,6,7) - more emphasis since you'd have to move for these after the triple. Just an idea. guitar's there so I wanted to make the movement a bit faster.
- 03:14:947 (1,2) - This was very easy to misread as the slider coming first due to the hitburst on the end of 03:14:241 (1). I think https://i.imgur.com/c3hwfNu.png might work nicer. If you do this though maybe nerf 03:14:594 (3,4) - a bit... stack on 03:13:800 (4) - ? I nerfed the double to a stack instead of spaced so the movement isn't as awkward. Also removed stack so it's a bit easier. Keeping spacing for 03:14:771 (4) - though since the guitar is quite paramount still
- 03:26:947 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - This whole part looks a bit out of place.. I think doing it in a more symmetrical manner like 03:24:477 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - might work but as it is the 90 degree slider thing looks ?_? 03:26:947 (1,2,3,4) - maybe something like https://i.imgur.com/vWXFn9J.png could work yeah it's more symmetrical now, should be a bit better.
- 04:20:065 (2,3,4) - Equal distance would be nice here. yes

Metadata link would be nice. Quoting Kwan:
References:
https://shop.napalmrecords.com/kamelot- ... diton.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDLZ6Mqy7AM


Didn't see anything outstanding otherwise. Call me back! Lasse should post soon after this.


Thanks a lot!!
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fuck jumps tbh

https://shop.napalmrecords.com/kamelot-haven-cd.html same as current
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDLZ6Mqy7AM video upload is a bit different, but current should be fine since both are official

soft-sliderslide should be unused since whole map is either drum custom or soft default, which both don't use it
02:49:536 - missing kiai on red line


00:22:355 (4,5,6,1) - this one just felt really unfomfortable on my first few plays. but no real idea how to change
01:32:414 (3) - ever considered making this and similar into a triple + repeat? I think that would still follow vocals well, but be a bit less underwhelming rhythmically, accentuate melody on 01:32:590 - (which is also nice since the other 2 sliders before also land on melody) and play well, same for other repeats of this length in each chorus


other things were already mentioned by mir lol
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Lasse wrote:

fuck jumps tbh oops

https://shop.napalmrecords.com/kamelot-haven-cd.html same as current
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDLZ6Mqy7AM video upload is a bit different, but current should be fine since both are official

soft-sliderslide should be unused since whole map is either drum custom or soft default, which both don't use it switched to custom soft 1 actually, I don't like the sliderslide at calm sections.
02:49:536 - missing kiai on red line fixed


00:22:355 (4,5,6,1) - this one just felt really unfomfortable on my first few plays. but no real idea how to change yeah kinda hate that too, made 00:22:531 (5,6,1) - into a manual stack so the player doesn't need to adjust aim way too much.
01:32:414 (3) - ever considered making this and similar into a triple + repeat? I think that would still follow vocals well, but be a bit less underwhelming rhythmically, accentuate melody on 01:32:590 - (which is also nice since the other 2 sliders before also land on melody) and play well, same for other repeats of this length in each chorus idk it feels a bit off to me, maybe because the vocal line is really catchy here so shifting the accentuation make it like i'm following something else.


other things were already mentioned by mir lol


Thanks a lot! Updated.
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