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Ho ho ho Seacret Santa

General
Gona echo Sanyi's comment about needing another diff in between last Rain and Lotus' Overdose, the skill required to play the overdose is alot higher than Rain.
i would also love to try my hands at Light Overdose, if you don't have anyone in mind already
Cup
  • 00:00:572 (1,2) - feel this spacing is slightly low, imo would have 2 on X:368 instead
  1. 00:13:960 (4,1) - shouldnt the spacing between these two be higher than the spacing between 00:13:464 (3,4) - as intensity of music is higher.
  2. 00:16:439 (1,2) - wouldnt this flow better if 2 was on the way to 3? so put 2 on something like X:272 instead
  3. 00:20:406 (1,2) - same here.
  4. 00:28:340 (1,2) - same here maybe more, not gona point out them anymore tho. you either agree or not.
Salad
  1. 00:13:216 (2,3) - would increase this spacing a bit imo.
  2. 00:38:257 (1,2,3) - this sounds a bit wierd, its not obvious what sound you're following but i feel like its a bit out of place. specificaly dont hear anything
  3. disctinct on 00:38:629 (2) - head
  4. 00:45:695 (4) - i feel like you suddenly switch from other instruments to following drumline. imo would have a note on 00:45:571 - and 00:45:943 - instead of on the white tick.
  5. 00:54:621 (3,1) - this might be a bit to tricky/anti-flowy for a beginner imo. maybe have 3 pointing a bit less to the right or move 1 closer to 3.
Platter
  1. 00:00:572 - 00:01:811 - i really feel like there should be beats on all the blue ticks here, might be a bit overmapped tho :/
  2. 00:19:786 (5) - this sound is very low imo would remove, or maybe just reduce distance so both 4 and 6 are something like 0.8x away.
  3. on the note of weak sounds. 00:50:778 - sound here that you havent mapped that i would map.
Sanyi's Light Rain
  1. 00:01:439 - imo would map this sound too. feels a bit wierd without it.
  2. 00:02:431 - ^
  3. 00:09:373 - ^
  4. 00:10:365 - ^
  5. 00:13:340 - ^
  6. 00:14:084 (6,7) - this spacing might be a bit high.
  7. 00:24:125 (5) - this is very anti-flow, don't agree that it fits that well. I would have a vertical slider instead. (this one requires some remapping to keep hyper to 00:24:373 (1) - too). I might even have the slider point to the left and ctrl + h 00:24:373 (1) -
  8. 00:39:249 (4,5,6,7) - very tap-dashy. think it demands a bit to much of the player. i would only have a dash on the white tick. so something like this: https://puu.sh/ym035/f13857246b.png
  9. not an experienced hitsounder but 00:43:588 (6) - maybe add another clap on the tail?
  10. 00:52:762 (3,4) - this jump might be a bit too uncofertable, imo would reduce spacing a bit.
ZiRoX's Rain
  1. 00:00:943 (4,5) - imo would have a slightly bigger jump
  2. 00:04:909 (4,5) - ^
  3. 00:04:909 (4,5) - another thing about this one, spacing here is much lower than on eg. 00:00:943 (4,5) - or 00:08:876 (4,5) -. any reason?
  4. 00:08:877 (4,5) - imo would have the same spacing on the previous 2 point as on this one.
  5. 00:40:613 - i dont think there is any sound here.
Rain
  1. 00:01:439 - as im pointing out on all the other diffs, feel leaving out a beat here is wrong.
  2. 00:02:431 - ^
  3. 00:05:406 - ^
  4. 00:06:398 - ^
    gona stop pointing them out now, can someone just clarify for me why there shouldnt be a beat on the blue ticks >.<
  5. 00:14:828 (2) - imo preffer this as just a 1/2 beat slider.
  6. 00:32:803 (2,3,4) - imo would move 2 and 3 a bit more to the right and have 4 back at 2. since 2 and 4 have the same bass guitar tone to them.
  7. 00:40:737 (2,3,4) - same concept with these 3.
  8. 00:44:704 (2,3,4) - same with these, tho this might start to kill the variety in this section.
  9. 00:50:654 - want a note to circle here. Maybe ctrl + f 00:50:530 (2) -
  10. 00:58:464 (2) - same with this one.
Lotus' Overdose
HOW IS THIS ONLY 4.6 STARS, WHAT DID YOU DO? anyway onto the mod proper
  1. 00:14:208 (3,4,5) - feel this many hypers are a bit exessive, maybe reduce distance between 3 and 4.
  2. 00:16:935 (2,3) - imo would preffer a hyper here.
  3. 00:25:117 (4) - would delite this and just have a slider instead of 00:24:993 (3,5) -
  4. 00:36:522 (2,3,4) - could consider having hypers between these.
  5. 01:02:059 (1,2) - this dash is a bit unconfertable and i dont feel the music compliments it.
Atlamillia
  1. 00:00:572 - 00:15:448 - with how Lotus mapped this section, the highest diff is A LOT easier on this part. i think you should upp the difficoulty a bit atleast so its more simmilar in difficulty. if you aggree some of my points under might be irrelevant.
  2. 00:01:067 (3,4) - imo would increase this spacing a bit.
  3. 00:05:034 (3,4,5,6) - preffer this pattern like this: https://puu.sh/ymDLU/9d3c5d6175.png
  4. 00:18:423 (1,2) - imo this spacing is a bit high.
  5. 00:13:464 (1,2) - feel a spacing of around 2x would fit better with the increasing intensity
  6. 00:43:216 (5,6,7,8) - i'd preffer this section with a hyper to 6 and direction change to 7 and a hyper to 8. something like https://puu.sh/ymDYn/fb964022e5.png. the jumpy play feels fitting to the song imo. (section after will need some remapping or just ctrl + h 00:44:208 (1) - maaaybe)
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Divine Cake wrote:

Sanyi's Light Rain
  1. 00:01:439 - imo would map this sound too. feels a bit wierd without it.
  2. 00:02:431 - ^
  3. 00:09:373 - ^
  4. 00:10:365 - ^
  5. 00:13:340 - ^ Understandable suggestion, but I like it how it is atm because that gives me the option to use my current patterns. It also leads to more emphasis on the notes after the gap which was my goal here, therefore no change for now.
  6. 00:14:084 (6,7) - this spacing might be a bit high. slightly reduced
  7. 00:24:125 (5) - this is very anti-flow, don't agree that it fits that well. I would have a vertical slider instead. (this one requires some remapping to keep hyper to 00:24:373 (1) - too). I might even have the slider point to the left and ctrl + h 00:24:373 (1) - the antiflow is really easy to play and making flow doesn't really fit the music considering the short build-up starting with 00:24:125 (5) - , therefore I keep my antiflow here
  8. 00:39:249 (4,5,6,7) - very tap-dashy. think it demands a bit to much of the player. i would only have a dash on the white tick. so something like this: https://puu.sh/ym035/f13857246b.png since Sorcerer mentioned the same issue I will fix it now, but a bit different than in your pic
  9. not an experienced hitsounder but 00:43:588 (6) - maybe add another clap on the tail? JBH hitsounded the mapset so I will ask him
  10. 00:52:762 (3,4) - this jump might be a bit too uncofertable, imo would reduce spacing a bit. I think it is fine
Thanks for the mod!

@JBH: Can you answer to the hitsound suggestion in my diff? And maybe you should slap ZiRoX and Withered and tell them to answer to the mods before they get the same suggestions over and over again.

Updated diff: https://puu.sh/ypg8W/5d4d0ab982.osu
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Everything from Sanyi's mod applied.

Divine Cake wrote:

ZiRoX's Rain
  1. 00:00:943 (4,5) - imo would have a slightly bigger jump I don't want to introduce a 1/4 dash so early into the song, I prefer the to do so at 00:01:438 (8,1) - which is a stronger beat.
  2. 00:04:909 (4,5) - ^ This one is for consistency with the one mentioned in the previous point
  3. 00:04:909 (4,5) - another thing about this one, spacing here is much lower than on eg. 00:00:943 (4,5) - or 00:08:876 (4,5) -. any reason? I made the first distance smaller so it is more consistent with the other one you mentioned. As for 00:08:876 (4,5) - , the player already knows what to expect in terms of rhythm, so I introduce more 1/4 dashes in this part.
  4. 00:08:877 (4,5) - imo would have the same spacing on the previous 2 point as on this one. ^The previous comment explains why I used a larger spacing here
  5. 00:40:613 - i dont think there is any sound here. While there's no particular sound here, I think the current snap is more predictable and consistent with the rest of the patterns.
osu file format v14

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Thanks you both for the mods!
posted

Sanyi wrote:

Lotus' Overdose

General: Your hyper usage is in some parts a bit inconsistent:
  1. 00:31:811 (5,1) - is no hyper, 00:36:026 (9,1) - is no either but 00:38:010 (8,1) - is one which is rhythm-wise and emphasizing-wise inconsistent imo.
    I would prefer to make them all a hyper or none (preferably all since it is an Overdose). Removed the H-dash. Can't make these patterns into H-dash since they have 1/2 gaps.
  2. 00:53:877 (9,1) - and 00:59:828 (9,1) - should be hypers too considering the rest of the kiai mapping imo.Nothing in the kiai with a 1/2 gap is a H-dash, doing this would just make them screen-wide hyperdashes which would just feel and play badly. Plus I don't think this kiai needs oversaturating with hyperdashes more than it already is.

I know that I did compare 1/2 jumps with 1/4 jumps but hyper/non-hyper difference is more remarkable than 1/2 - 1/4 difference, so I think mentioned 1/2 jumps should be hypers (or you make them 1/4 by changing the pattern).

Other things:
  1. 00:00:572 (1,2,3,4,5) - Flows weird imo, consider changing it up if other modders mention it as well. I don't feel like it flows weird,
    very standard patterns imo and I feel it plays fine.
  2. 00:34:043 (1) - Having a downbeat on a sliderend doesn't fit the rest of your mapping imo, splitting the slider up into single notes would fix that. Fixed.
  3. 00:43:960 (4) - Again a downbeat on a sliderend, and this time the downbeat is a really remarkable sound as well. Imo this downbeat deserves a hyper,
    therefore your current slider is really underemphasizing it imo. Eh, I dunno I don't really see a very good way to structure this section otherwise. I'm going to leave this for now.
  4. Tbh I dislike the whole part from 00:41:357 (5) - until 00:43:960 (4) - , the important sound at 00:41:481 - lies again on a sliderend, i already mentioned 00:43:960 (4) - and the complete section doesn't really feel like emphasizing the music imo. Fixed 00:41:481 so that it starts on a slider instead of ending on one. Also I added some H-dashes to these downbeats.


The beginning part and the kiai are fun to play!

Divine Cake wrote:

Lotus' Overdose
HOW IS THIS ONLY 4.6 STARS, WHAT DID YOU DO? anyway onto the mod proper Black magic.
00:14:208 (3,4,5) - feel this many hypers are a bit exessive, maybe reduce distance between 3 and 4. Hmm, I don't think it's too bad, I like the way they emphasise the rising tone in the music and besides, I don't think it's too excessive considering other parts of the map.
00:16:935 (2,3) - imo would preffer a hyper here. These are only light percussion instruments, I don't think a hyperdash is warranted here.
00:25:117 (4) - would delite this and just have a slider instead of 00:24:993 (3,5) -Again these are mapping 1/4 percussion instrumentals in the song, having a slider would just be undermapping, plus there are many other examples where I've done the same thing.
00:36:522 (2,3,4) - could consider having hypers between these. Again these are only light percussion notes, not warranted a hyperdash imo.
01:02:059 (1,2) - this dash is a bit unconfertable and i dont feel the music compliments it. This jump is a bit harsh, reduced a bit.
Thanks for the mods.

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posted

Divine Cake wrote:

Ho ho ho Seacret Santa

General
Gona echo Sanyi's comment about needing another diff in between last Rain and Lotus' Overdose, the skill required to play the overdose is alot higher than Rain.
[spoiler]i would also love to try my hands at Light Overdose, if you don't have anyone in mind already[/spoiler] This set is large enough already so I'll try and fix spread first :/
Cup
  • 00:00:572 (1,2) - feel this spacing is slightly low, imo would have 2 on X:368 instead I feel this is fine as an introductory spacing for a calm(ish) part, allows the player to get accustomed to the BPM and distancing
  1. 00:13:960 (4,1) - shouldnt the spacing between these two be higher than the spacing between 00:13:464 (3,4) - as intensity of music is higher. Fixed
  2. 00:16:439 (1,2) - wouldnt this flow better if 2 was on the way to 3? so put 2 on something like X:272 instead Any kind of substantial 1/4 spacing is unexpected at this level of difficulty, so since I couldn't skip the sound I opted to stack
  3. 00:20:406 (1,2) - same here.
  4. 00:28:340 (1,2) - same here maybe more, not gona point out them anymore tho. you either agree or not.
Salad
  1. 00:13:216 (2,3) - would increase this spacing a bit imo. Done
  2. 00:38:257 (1,2,3) - this sounds a bit wierd, its not obvious what sound you're following but i feel like its a bit out of place. specificaly dont hear anything
  3. disctinct on 00:38:629 (2) - head Eep, changed this rhythm a bit to follow the guitar sound better
  4. 00:45:695 (4) - i feel like you suddenly switch from other instruments to following drumline. imo would have a note on 00:45:571 - and 00:45:943 - instead of on the white tick. Changed to a 34/ slider and 1/2 slider
  5. 00:54:621 (3,1) - this might be a bit to tricky/anti-flowy for a beginner imo. maybe have 3 pointing a bit less to the right or move 1 closer to 3. Reduced distance a tiny bit
Platter
  1. 00:00:572 - 00:01:811 - i really feel like there should be beats on all the blue ticks here, might be a bit overmapped tho :/ Yeah, I opted for a less dense start so the step up from Salad wasn't too high
  2. 00:19:786 (5) - this sound is very low imo would remove, or maybe just reduce distance so both 4 and 6 are something like 0.8x away. Removed and respaced
  3. on the note of weak sounds. 00:50:778 - sound here that you havent mapped that i would map. Fixed here and at 00:58:588 (3) - since it's the same rhythm
Rain
  1. 00:01:439 - as im pointing out on all the other diffs, feel leaving out a beat here is wrong. I normally wouldn't do this since it means the allows a nice gradual entry into the diff, but since I already have two easier Rains and I need to spread the gap to Overdose, I might as well take these options
  2. 00:02:431 - ^
  3. 00:05:406 - ^
  4. 00:06:398 - ^
    gona stop pointing them out now, can someone just clarify for me why there shouldnt be a beat on the blue ticks >.<
  5. 00:14:828 (2) - imo preffer this as just a 1/2 beat slider. Repeat slider follows the background guitar sound
  6. 00:32:803 (2,3,4) - imo would move 2 and 3 a bit more to the right and have 4 back at 2. since 2 and 4 have the same bass guitar tone to them. The fact they have the same sound is why I made a linear pattern, and not doing so really cramps me for space on the left side, same applies to the following
  7. 00:40:737 (2,3,4) - same concept with these 3.
  8. 00:44:704 (2,3,4) - same with these, tho this might start to kill the variety in this section. Did change this one though since pitch is decreasing and emphasises the following buildup
  9. 00:50:654 - want a note to circle here. Maybe ctrl + f 00:50:530 (2) -
  10. 00:58:464 (2) - same with this one. Decided to follow drums instead of guitar on these two parts for variety
Atlamillia
  1. 00:00:572 - 00:15:448 - with how Lotus mapped this section, the highest diff is A LOT easier on this part. i think you should upp the difficoulty a bit atleast so its more simmilar in difficulty. if you aggree some of my points under might be irrelevant. Lotus shouldn't have made his diff so hard xd - Upped difficulty here with some stronger dashes and hypers, though kept the general construction the same
  2. 00:01:067 (3,4) - imo would increase this spacing a bit.
  3. 00:05:034 (3,4,5,6) - preffer this pattern like this: https://puu.sh/ymDLU/9d3c5d6175.png
  4. 00:18:423 (1,2) - imo this spacing is a bit high. Reduced a little
  5. 00:13:464 (1,2) - feel a spacing of around 2x would fit better with the increasing intensity
  6. 00:43:216 (5,6,7,8) - i'd preffer this section with a hyper to 6 and direction change to 7 and a hyper to 8. something like https://puu.sh/ymDYn/fb964022e5.png. the jumpy play feels fitting to the song imo. (section after will need some remapping or just ctrl + h 00:44:208 (1) - maaaybe) Hyper doesn't really fit here for me on (8), but I went with the hyper to (6) and direction change
Thanks for the mod! (:

Updated GDs, @Sanyi the head already has a clap so having one on the tail too is overbearing, I just focused on the main low pitch drum sounds with clap
posted
This ain't mod

General

I think you should change offset to around 560-64 as from this point 00:01:563 (1) - you can hear that white tick should few ms earlier and if you would use 25% you can hear that on every up/down beat from this point
Altamillia
00:00:572 (1) - as it's pretty short song, you could introduce more movement from start of a song by placing this note on x:304, so simply adding small dash on it.

00:19:043 (3) - would place

00:30:324 (1) - you could place it 2 grids away from the wall so it would be more comfortable to read

00:34:786 (3) - instead slider you could arrange notes like that to make more interesting flow - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9651670

00:39:249 (4) - would move to x:96 to give more impact on landing of hyperdash and make dash to (5) a bit stronger to emphasizes the intense sounds here.

01:03:175 (2,3,4,5) - would move all one grid left to stick to make (5) be on x:8 instead
Lotus' Overdose

00:03:795 (5,6) - spacing feels too big, connected with harsh distance change it's very awkward to play, try this shape - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9651746

00:22:390 (1) - would move to x:36 to make hyperdash as it is new stanza here so very strong beat lands here.

00:30:076 (8,1) - also would make this hyperjump as well to be consistence with placing a hyper to new stanzas in this part

00:36:026 (9,1) - and this feels like there should be a hyperdash as well
Rain

00:01:315 (6) - would do a e s t h e t i c change and place (6) on x:496 so transition to 2nd slider have more movement

00:39:745 (1,2) - as song goes intense here would try with that placing - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9651875 so basically more movement and stronger dashes

00:43:588 (6,7) - more movement would be nice here

I hope to see it ranked soon :oko_hand:
posted

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

This ain't mod

General

I think you should change offset to around 560-64 as from this point 00:01:563 (1) - you can hear that white tick should few ms earlier and if you would use 25% you can hear that on every up/down beat from this point Changed to 564
Altamillia
00:00:572 (1) - as it's pretty short song, you could introduce more movement from start of a song by placing this note on x:304, so simply adding small dash on it. I don't feel this sound is strong enough to warrant a dash, short song or otherwise. A walk eases the player into the rhythm better

00:19:043 (3) - would place Would place what where? Need some more info here or I can't understand this

00:30:324 (1) - you could place it 2 grids away from the wall so it would be more comfortable to read Not sure readability was really a problem here, but moved it anyway to improve flow

00:34:786 (3) - instead slider you could arrange notes like that to make more interesting flow - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9651670 I find the current reverse slider pattern more interesting than a slow walk tbh

00:39:249 (4) - would move to x:96 to give more impact on landing of hyperdash and make dash to (5) a bit stronger to emphasizes the intense sounds here. Moved it left a bit for stronger dash to (5), but not strong enough for a hyper imo compared to (6,7)

01:03:175 (2,3,4,5) - would move all one grid left to stick to make (5) be on x:8 instead You meant right instead of left, but sure I did that lol
Rain

00:01:315 (6) - would do a e s t h e t i c change and place (6) on x:496 so transition to 2nd slider have more movement Moved 00:00:564 (1,2,3,4,5) - left instead since there was more room, but achieved the same result

00:39:745 (1,2) - as song goes intense here would try with that placing - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9651875 so basically more movement and stronger dashes Increased a little bit

00:43:588 (6,7) - more movement would be nice here Buffed


I hope to see it ranked soon :oko_hand:
Thanks for the mod!
posted

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

Lotus' Overdose

00:03:795 (5,6) - spacing feels too big, connected with harsh distance change it's very awkward to play, try this shape - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9651746 Personally I feel like this spacing is adequate, it becomes too easy to overdash this pattern if you reduce the distance too much, will leave it for now unless someone says anything as well.

00:22:390 (1) - would move to x:36 to make hyperdash as it is new stanza here so very strong beat lands here. Done.

00:30:076 (8,1) - also would make this hyperjump as well to be consistence with placing a hyper to new stanzas in this part Done.

00:36:026 (9,1) - and this feels like there should be a hyperdash as well Done.
Thanks for the mod.

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posted
updated witherdiff
posted
mbomb.

[Cup]

00:02:051 (3) - Maybe have a bit of a higher distancing to this, just to make the distance increase for the high pitched note a little more obvious. Try x:172.
00:05:522 (2,3) - Similar case here, try 2 on x:340 and 3 on x:152.
00:09:489 (2) - Only one of these where that high pitched note is used as a slider end, which makes it really stand out as odd, would recommend 2 circles like previously.
00:13:456 (3) - Rising intensity here could do with a little more distancing. Try x:352 on it.
00:14:448 (1) - I understand the reasoning for using shorter distancing here, but I think even though it's 1/2, a higher distance could be nice considering the strong section change here. x:144 works really nicely.
00:18:415 (1,2) - Current distancing to 1 feels quite underwhelming currently, as it's a new line with a synth attachment, yet the distancing is less than it is to 2, which doesn't really have much reason to be stronger. Also the slowdown into speedup feels kinda strange for a cup. Try increasing the distancing to x:288.
00:24:365 (1) - Higher distancing for the line change would feel really neat to me. Try x:304 on it.
00:26:349 (1,2,3,4) - Two reasons here to increase distancing to 1. Firstly, similar case to 00:18:415 (1,2) - , and secondly, distancing from 4 to the next combo feels quite strange considering it's a stronger note that you even used a finish for, yet it has the same distance as 4 had to it. Try x:320 on this part.
00:32:299 (1) - Start of a new section could do with a little more emphasis I think, even though it is 1/2. x:184 would go nicely.
00:34:283 (1) - Maybe slant it a tiny bit? Currently, the distancing feels a little weak and so going from a weak movement to a full SV slider could feel a little uncomfortable.
00:36:266 (1) - Similar case as above, though less so due to the previous slider being vertical.
00:38:249 (1) - Intensity feels like it's increasing from the previous section, however the distancing here stays the same which I feel doesn't really match the song greatly in preperation of the intensity increase. x:172 would have the desired effect.
00:40:233 (1) - This is a really strong pitch change right now, probably the strongest in the song so far, would be really nice to emphasise that with a higher distancing. x:268, maybe?
00:43:208 (3) - A little more emphasis on these sudden sounds would be quite nice I feel. x:240 gives that kind of effect to me. Maybe also use circles instead of the slider? I feel those sounds would be a lot nicer using circles instead.
01:03:787 (6) - Minor increase for emphasis on the finale with increasing intensity here would be good, x:296 achieves that.

[Salad]

00:04:530 (1) - Hmm, maybe be best to increase this as currently it's a bit confusing as to whether it's a dash or not, but I'm assuming by similar sections that it's supposed to be. Try x:116.
00:13:456 (3) - Maybe increase this a tiny bit more? I know it's already higher for the increasing intensity, but I think a slightly bigger push isn't too difficult. x:148 feels nice.
00:14:448 (1) - This one is a lot stronger than the other sounds so far in the map, maybe try a slightly bigger dash to compensate for that. x:68 would be nice.
00:22:382 (1,2) - Dash to this is smaller than other ones in the map, so could be a bit confusing to a player as to whether to dash or not. Try to increase a tiny bit to x:388?
00:22:630 (2) - Try a slightly shorter distance to this too maybe, considering there's a direction change both into it and into the movement.
00:28:580 (2) - Distancing into this feels a little small right now compared to similar movements, try x:192 on it.
00:41:473 (4) - I feel the stronger pitches here could fit nicely with a slightly higher dash distancing, like x:404?
00:43:208 (3) - Similar to the cup, I think 3 circles for this would fit nicely with the sharpness of these sounds.
00:55:109 (1) - Using a shorter dash distance to this one than the rest of the section feels rather odd given the sharpness of these sounds fits a stronger dash quite nicely. x:16 would be neat.
00:58:456 (2,3) - Curve shape here ends up feeling really weird as the end of the curve is a shorter distance, however the curve is going outwards in a way that implies the distancing should be getting higher. Try changing it accordingly.
01:02:547 (3,1,2,3) - Feels really odd to play this because it seems like it should be a strong finale, however the distances are much weaker dash distances than the normal ones used throughout the map and especially the kiai, making it feel quite weak in comparison. Try 3 going horizontally to the right, and then 1 on x:256, 2 on x:424, and 3 on x:108, makes it feel a lot more impactful in my opinion.

[Platter]

00:14:448 (1) - ANTIFLOW IN PLATTER AFTER HDASH THIS IS UNRANKABLE AAAAAAAAAAAAA (meme btw but maybe decrease 00:14:448 (1,2) - to x:64 just to make sure the HDash is at it's weakest into the direction change, considering it's the second HDash in the map).
00:40:233 (1) - I know it's not exactly forced against the wall now, even by the guideline, but I think just to be safe, decreasing it a little more could help here. x:28 would work fine.
00:43:208 (3) - Again suggesting 3 circles for sharp sounds, ignore this if you rejected it in other diffs.

Really nice platter.

[Santa-Sanyi]

00:04:035 (7) - Feels kinda awkward right now, since dashing to this after the previous movement seems strange enough, but also the much lower distancing compared to the others makes dashing seem weird, yet it'd be better both musically and in play to dash to it. Try increasing it to x:408 and then adjusting the next curve slightly, to ensure the player knows to dash here and to make movement more comfortable both before and after.
00:21:390 (3) - Really strong movement to this considering the sound on it isn't really strong at all. Maybe reduce it quite a bit to avoid this issue?
00:31:307 (3) - Again, movement to this is really strong considering the fact there's not really any strong sound there, reduce it to x:220.

Interesting difficulty, however I'd rather get one or two more mods on it before rechecking.

[Foxy Roxy (rank ginsen)]

00:26:968 (3) - Definitely a stronger note than 4, yet currently you have a stronger distance to 4 despite that. Would recommend making this slider horizontal to the left to fit this better.

Really can't find anything else, amazingly mapped.

[Rain]

00:02:051 (2) - Could maybe have a dash to that for the stronger pitch here?
00:06:018 (2) - Same here, and at the other parts during this intro.
00:34:035 (8) - Distancing to this felt really awkward no matter how many times I played it. It feels really small, which leads to very easy overdashing. Try ctrl+G and move it to x:144 maybe?

Seems fine other than that, but there's just something that feels off that I can't really put my finger on, would be nice if you got another mod on this too.

[Switched On Lotus]

00:30:316 (1) - Try reducing HDash strength to this slightly just to make the dash afterwards feel a lot neater to play. x:432 would work great.
00:36:018 (9,1) - Similar situation to above, try moving this section to x:400, to increase the reaction time given.
00:42:960 (1) - Feels really awkward here to have this really strong sound on the slider end, especially considering the other two similar sounds are done with HDashes to them, would highly recommend splitting this into 2 with a HDash between them, and then make the note on the strong sound a 1/2 slider like the others.
00:55:109 (6,7,8) - Slightly shorter distancing to 6 here would make the jump pattern feel a lot more comfortable to play, try decreasing it to x:376.

Really beautiful mapping here.

[JBH's I Could Have Made This A Full Set Alone, But I'm Too Cool]

00:47:671 (5) - Feels a little forced against the wall even though it's fitting the guideline just due to how strong the HDash is, maybe decrease it a tiny bit to x:28?
00:55:481 (7) - This note ends up feeling heavily underemphasised as it is currently, as the instrument here is quite strong, I'd even say it stands out more than the note on 8, yet it's currently not even a dash, it just sounds really strange.
01:02:051 (1) - This is why we need to be able to make droplet formations ourselves easier. (Please make the droplets stick out more as intended, burai would probably work better).

Alright that should be all for now, get one or two more mods and call me back!
posted

MBomb wrote:

[Santa-Sanyi]

00:04:035 (7) - Feels kinda awkward right now, since dashing to this after the previous movement seems strange enough, but also the much lower distancing compared to the others makes dashing seem weird, yet it'd be better both musically and in play to dash to it. Try increasing it to x:408 and then adjusting the next curve slightly, to ensure the player knows to dash here and to make movement more comfortable both before and after.
00:21:390 (3) - Really strong movement to this considering the sound on it isn't really strong at all. Maybe reduce it quite a bit to avoid this issue? Only reduced by a bit since I want to emphasize the guitar in the background
00:31:307 (3) - Again, movement to this is really strong considering the fact there's not really any strong sound there, reduce it to x:220.

Interesting difficulty, however I'd rather get one or two more mods on it before rechecking. Ok :)
No reply = fixed

Thanks for the mod!

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posted

MBomb wrote:

[Switched On Lotus]

00:30:316 (1) - Try reducing HDash strength to this slightly just to make the dash afterwards feel a lot neater to play. x:432 would work great. Done.
00:36:018 (9,1) - Similar situation to above, try moving this section to x:400, to increase the reaction time given. Done.
00:42:960 (1) - Feels really awkward here to have this really strong sound on the slider end, especially considering the other two similar sounds are done with HDashes to them, would highly recommend splitting this into 2 with a HDash between them, and then make the note on the strong sound a 1/2 slider like the others. Fixed.
00:55:109 (6,7,8) - Slightly shorter distancing to 6 here would make the jump pattern feel a lot more comfortable to play, try decreasing it to x:376. Done, and made the following 2 sliders equidistant.

Really beautiful mapping here. >///<
Merci pour le mod.

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Artist:Tomohito Nishiura
ArtistUnicode:西浦智仁
Creator:JBHyperion
Version:Lotus' Overdose
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Tags:ダーククラウド Chronicle ost original sound tracks playstation rpg level-5 inc. instrumental Possibly an unused theme for Emperor Griffon JBH ZiRoX Withered Lotus Sanyi
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posted

MBomb wrote:

mbomb. Sorry I disagree

[Cup]

00:02:051 (3) - Maybe have a bit of a higher distancing to this, just to make the distance increase for the high pitched note a little more obvious. Try x:172. Don't want such hefty spacing so early on, (4) afterwards is already more spaced than this and I want to keep the pattern of increasing by 0.2x for each stronger sound
00:05:522 (2,3) - Similar case here, try 2 on x:340 and 3 on x:152. Same here
00:09:489 (2) - Only one of these where that high pitched note is used as a slider end, which makes it really stand out as odd, would recommend 2 circles like previously. Ok
00:13:456 (3) - Rising intensity here could do with a little more distancing. Try x:352 on it. Increased the spacing here a tiny bit, but not as much as you suggested, there are stronger sounds to come after this that require more spacing still
00:14:448 (1) - I understand the reasoning for using shorter distancing here, but I think even though it's 1/2, a higher distance could be nice considering the strong section change here. x:144 works really nicely. x:144 makes this almost a stack, did you mean 244? I increased this a little with the previous suggestion, I think it's enough
00:18:415 (1,2) - Current distancing to 1 feels quite underwhelming currently, as it's a new line with a synth attachment, yet the distancing is less than it is to 2, which doesn't really have much reason to be stronger. Also the slowdown into speedup feels kinda strange for a cup. Try increasing the distancing to x:288. Made spacing consistent here
00:24:365 (1) - Higher distancing for the line change would feel really neat to me. Try x:304 on it. Feels excessive to me, I'll go to x:320 at most
00:26:349 (1,2,3,4) - Two reasons here to increase distancing to 1. Firstly, similar case to 00:18:415 (1,2) - , and secondly, distancing from 4 to the next combo feels quite strange considering it's a stronger note that you even used a finish for, yet it has the same distance as 4 had to it. Try x:320 on this part. Spaced it a tiny bit more
00:32:299 (1) - Start of a new section could do with a little more emphasis I think, even though it is 1/2. x:184 would go nicely. Same
00:34:283 (1) - Maybe slant it a tiny bit? Currently, the distancing feels a little weak and so going from a weak movement to a full SV slider could feel a little uncomfortable. 00:33:291 (3,1) - isn't a weak spacing for 1/2, don't see how this could be a problem
00:36:266 (1) - Similar case as above, though less so due to the previous slider being vertical. Ok fair enough this one is a bit weaker, spaced it a tiny bit more instead for better flow
00:38:249 (1) - Intensity feels like it's increasing from the previous section, however the distancing here stays the same which I feel doesn't really match the song greatly in preperation of the intensity increase. x:172 would have the desired effect. Spaced it a tiny bit more
00:40:233 (1) - This is a really strong pitch change right now, probably the strongest in the song so far, would be really nice to emphasise that with a higher distancing. x:268, maybe? Separated (3,1) a little but x:264 is overkill holy moly no thanks
00:43:208 (3) - A little more emphasis on these sudden sounds would be quite nice I feel. x:240 gives that kind of effect to me. Maybe also use circles instead of the slider? I feel those sounds would be a lot nicer using circles instead. Repeat slider reflects the decreasing pitch best, hitsounds give more than adequate emphasis imo
01:03:787 (6) - Minor increase for emphasis on the finale with increasing intensity here would be good, x:296 achieves that. Usual fare, increased slightly but I find your exact positioning suggestions excessive for comparison to the patterns used elsewhere so I'll moderately increase it, etc.

[Salad]

00:04:530 (1) - Hmm, maybe be best to increase this as currently it's a bit confusing as to whether it's a dash or not, but I'm assuming by similar sections that it's supposed to be. Try x:116.
00:13:456 (3) - Maybe increase this a tiny bit more? I know it's already higher for the increasing intensity, but I think a slightly bigger push isn't too difficult. x:148 feels nice.
00:14:448 (1) - This one is a lot stronger than the other sounds so far in the map, maybe try a slightly bigger dash to compensate for that. x:68 would be nice.
00:22:382 (1,2) - Dash to this is smaller than other ones in the map, so could be a bit confusing to a player as to whether to dash or not. Try to increase a tiny bit to x:388?
00:22:630 (2) - Try a slightly shorter distance to this too maybe, considering there's a direction change both into it and into the movement. Sure
00:28:580 (2) - Distancing into this feels a little small right now compared to similar movements, try x:192 on it. ok
00:41:473 (4) - I feel the stronger pitches here could fit nicely with a slightly higher dash distancing, like x:404? Yes
00:43:208 (3) - Similar to the cup, I think 3 circles for this would fit nicely with the sharpness of these sounds. Same response
00:55:109 (1) - Using a shorter dash distance to this one than the rest of the section feels rather odd given the sharpness of these sounds fits a stronger dash quite nicely. x:16 would be neat.
00:58:456 (2,3) - Curve shape here ends up feeling really weird as the end of the curve is a shorter distance, however the curve is going outwards in a way that implies the distancing should be getting higher. Try changing it accordingly. Not sure I see the problem, this is a pretty clean straight line
01:02:547 (3,1,2,3) - Feels really odd to play this because it seems like it should be a strong finale, however the distances are much weaker dash distances than the normal ones used throughout the map and especially the kiai, making it feel quite weak in comparison. Try 3 going horizontally to the right, and then 1 on x:256, 2 on x:424, and 3 on x:108, makes it feel a lot more impactful in my opinion. This is nice

Anything not responded to I partially did but your placement suggestions were too extreme for the intended challenge of the difficulty imo

[Platter]

00:14:448 (1) - ANTIFLOW IN PLATTER AFTER HDASH THIS IS UNRANKABLE AAAAAAAAAAAAA (meme btw but maybe decrease 00:14:448 (1,2) - to x:64 just to make sure the HDash is at it's weakest into the direction change, considering it's the second HDash in the map). Hyper generates at x:60 so I put it there, also curved it a bit for more leniency
00:40:233 (1) - I know it's not exactly forced against the wall now, even by the guideline, but I think just to be safe, decreasing it a little more could help here. x:28 would work fine. meh
00:43:208 (3) - Again suggesting 3 circles for sharp sounds, ignore this if you rejected it in other diffs. Ok I'll ignore it then lol

Really nice platter.

[Foxy Roxy (rank ginsen)]

00:26:968 (3) - Definitely a stronger note than 4, yet currently you have a stronger distance to 4 despite that. Would recommend making this slider horizontal to the left to fit this better. Roxy babe said I could apply this for him so I will do that

Really can't find anything else, amazingly mapped.

[Rain]

00:02:051 (2) - Could maybe have a dash to that for the stronger pitch here? Sure
00:06:018 (2) - Same here, and at the other parts during this intro. Fixed 'em all up
00:34:035 (8) - Distancing to this felt really awkward no matter how many times I played it. It feels really small, which leads to very easy overdashing. Try ctrl+G and move it to x:144 maybe? This is an intended walk though...

Seems fine other than that, but there's just something that feels off that I can't really put my finger on, would be nice if you got another mod on this too.

[JBH's I Could Have Made This A Full Set Alone, But I'm Too Cool]

00:47:671 (5) - Feels a little forced against the wall even though it's fitting the guideline just due to how strong the HDash is, maybe decrease it a tiny bit to x:28? Don't ever see myself overshooting this, it's an intended flowstop and the previous catcher control was more taxing so players who can do that can easily do this
00:55:481 (7) - This note ends up feeling heavily underemphasised as it is currently, as the instrument here is quite strong, I'd even say it stands out more than the note on 8, yet it's currently not even a dash, it just sounds really strange. Managed to shoehorn an extra dash in here for good measure
01:02:051 (1) - This is why we need to be able to make droplet formations ourselves easier. (Please make the droplets stick out more as intended, burai would probably work better). Holy shit I didn't realise how ugly this was but yeah I tried some other shapes and they all looked just as crap, screw this game man I'll live with it

Alright that should be all for now, get one or two more mods and call me back!
Thanks for the mod!
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[atlamilia]
00:07:382 (8,9) - why no hdash between these? you used one between 00:03:291 (7,8) - these and 00:11:225 (3,4) - these, and I don't hear any musical difference anywhere
01:00:687 (4,5) - edgedash, increase distancing to turn it into a hyperdash, since you seem to do so 00:48:787 (4,5) - here :thinking:
posted
Merry tuesday

[
General
]
  1. Hitsounds: Sliderticks make a bit of a racket, they only appear in Sanyi's and Lotus' diffs but they sound quite off when they pop up


[
Salad
]
  1. 00:22:382 (1,2) - Sure about these direction changes just after a dash? Might help to flip 00:22:630 (2) - so there isn't a direction change for the repeat


[
Platter
]
  1. 00:14:448 (1) - The direction change on this feels too weak which is understandable because there's a hyper to this but I think a better compromise would be to use circles here instead of a slider. Without the slider droplets to follow it gives more room for error to players allowing you to buff the distance to the note on the blue tick to around 1.0x ds
  2. 00:46:183 (1,2,3,4,5) - Doesn't feel clear how you intend the player to play these. The pattern is simple enough that consecutive dashes wouldn't be too outrageous (though still a diff spike) in which case I'd suggest to buff to around 3.0x ds. For a walk I'd say around 2.20x ds works well


[
Sanyi's Light Rain
]
  1. Every other difficulty here is using tickrate 1, would suggest to do the same as it's a better fit for the song (Press F to pay respects to slider aesthetics)
  2. 00:06:514 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - It's totally personal preference here but I'm not big on the fully vertical stacks. I think tilting these even by just a couple of grid spaces looks quite a bit nicer but it is completely subjective
  3. 00:39:241 (4,5,6,7) - I still think this sort of movement is too difficult for this difficulty. I'd recommend making 00:39:737 (6) - horizontal pointing left and place it at x:240. This keeps the tap dash style whilst making it considerably easier to hit


[
Rain
]
  1. 00:39:985 (2) - Tiny bit more angle on this to make it a little more forgiving would be great


[
Lotus' Overdose
]
  1. 00:05:026 (1) - Remove this NC
  2. 00:08:002 (3,1) - Missing a hyper here, pretty easy to change the shape on (3) and make it one though
  3. 00:11:968 (7,1) - This deserves a hyper too, not as straightforward as reshaping the slider this time though. You could adjust the slider shape and position of 00:11:968 (7) - and then Ctrl+H it and all the map previously
  4. 00:13:952 (1) - Swap the NC with 00:14:448 (5) -
  5. 00:16:183 (6,1) - Hyper here too would be great, you can hyper it pretty easily by tweaking the long slider shape and position of (6) (rip slider art)
  6. 00:26:349 (1,2) - Weird to have almost no movement here, would expect to see something like a dash
  7. 00:42:960 (5,1) - Real lack of emphasis on 00:43:208 (1) -, I'd say it deserves a hyper
  8. 00:43:952 (3) - This covers the strong note at 00:44:200 - with the slider tail. I'd swap out this slider for a singular circle and add in a new 1/2 slider starting on 00:44:200 - with a hyper to it
  9. 00:47:671 (5,1) - I demand more hypers! Start of kiai certainly deserves one


[
Atlamillia
]
  1. 01:03:787 (5) - I've always felt it has more impact to end on a singular note on the strong sound than to extend it with a slider

Call me back when everything's applied!
posted
Applied everything from Sorcerer's mod rip str 2 I will miss you

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posted

Sorcerer wrote:

Merry tuesday

[
General
]
  1. Hitsounds: Sliderticks make a bit of a racket, they only appear in Sanyi's and Lotus' diffs but they sound quite off when they pop up Ew yeah I didn't notice this since it wasn't on my diffs, added a softer drum-slidertick to fit better


[
Salad
]
  1. 00:22:382 (1,2) - Sure about these direction changes just after a dash? Might help to flip 00:22:630 (2) - so there isn't a direction change for the repeat Sure might as well since I did this at 00:28:580 (2) - already anyway


[
Platter
]
  1. 00:14:448 (1) - The direction change on this feels too weak which is understandable because there's a hyper to this but I think a better compromise would be to use circles here instead of a slider. Without the slider droplets to follow it gives more room for error to players allowing you to buff the distance to the note on the blue tick to around 1.0x ds Seems reasonable
  2. 00:46:183 (1,2,3,4,5) - Doesn't feel clear how you intend the player to play these. The pattern is simple enough that consecutive dashes wouldn't be too outrageous (though still a diff spike) in which case I'd suggest to buff to around 3.0x ds. For a walk I'd say around 2.20x ds works well Made clearer dashes for emphasis on kiai buildup


[
Rain
]
  1. 00:39:985 (2) - Tiny bit more angle on this to make it a little more forgiving would be great Made the hypers a tiny bit weaker and the slider more horizontal


[
Atlamillia
]
  1. 01:03:787 (5) - I've always felt it has more impact to end on a singular note on the strong sound than to extend it with a slider Yeah the tail isn't a big deal here, made it a circle

Call me back when everything's applied!
Thanks for the suggestions! Just waiting for Withered.
posted

Sorcerer wrote:

[
Lotus' Overdose
]
  1. 00:05:026 (1) - Remove this NC I don't really understand why, this slider is mapping the exact same thing as 00:01:555 (1) - which has a NC and probably others.
  2. 00:08:002 (3,1) - Missing a hyper here, pretty easy to change the shape on (3) and make it one though Done.
  3. 00:11:968 (7,1) - This deserves a hyper too, not as straightforward as reshaping the slider this time though. You could adjust the slider shape and position of 00:11:968 (7) - and then Ctrl+H it and all the map previously Forced this into a H-dash through willpower, determination and brute strength.
  4. 00:13:952 (1) - Swap the NC with 00:14:448 (5) - You're the boss.
  5. 00:16:183 (6,1) - Hyper here too would be great, you can hyper it pretty easily by tweaking the long slider shape and position of (6) (rip slider art) This is such a weak note though, I don't think a H-dash is very suitable here, also tfw modders (not just any modder but a BN! Bloody hell the nerve, I expect so much better from such prestigious members of our community) use old NC numbers when they just asked you to change them.
  6. 00:26:349 (1,2) - Weird to have almost no movement here, would expect to see something like a dash Forced this into a dash through brute strength and determination.
  7. 00:42:960 (5,1) - Real lack of emphasis on 00:43:208 (1) -, I'd say it deserves a hyper Something something brute strength.
  8. 00:43:952 (3) - This covers the strong note at 00:44:200 - with the slider tail. I'd swap out this slider for a singular circle and add in a new 1/2 slider starting on 00:44:200 - with a hyper to it THIS STRENGTH IS BRUTAL.
  9. 00:47:671 (5,1) - I demand more hypers! Start of kiai certainly deserves one. You smell.
Look at those pretty square brackets. Thank for mod.

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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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Applied and I convinced Withered to fix that NC cus yeah it was inconsistent for no reason maybe NCs offended him in a past life or something.
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Ok everything looks almost ready! Sanyi's Rain hasn't actually been updated to the latest version though, good to bubble once it's sorted
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