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Nightwish - Escapist

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pw384
2,288 posts
Joined January 2012
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pw384
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2018年2月13日 at 9:29:56

Artist: Nightwish
Title: Escapist
Tags: Dark Passion Play symphonic metal tm1209 encorew ametrin 384059043
BPM: 144
Filesize: 8289kb
Play Time: 04:51
Difficulties Available:
  1. Ametrin's Insane (4.19 stars, 755 notes)
  2. Extrication (4.5 stars, 794 notes)
  3. Hard (3.13 stars, 523 notes)
  4. Normal (2.16 stars, 361 notes)
  5. tm's Easy (1.49 stars, 237 notes)
Download: Nightwish - Escapist
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Use this space to tell the reality about your nightmare. It helps to include a list of miseries as your soul is confined!
Last edited by pw384 , edited 39 times in total.
Chloe
1,160 posts
Joined April 2011
Chloe
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Ametrin
717 posts
Joined May 2012
Ametrin
教授我来交作业了
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 128265
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.5
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1.6

[Metadata]
Title:Escapist
TitleUnicode:Escapist
Artist:Nightwish
ArtistUnicode:Nightwish
Creator:384059043
Version:Ametrin's Insane
Source:
Tags:Dark Passion Play symphonic metal
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7.5
ApproachRate:8.5
SliderMultiplier:1.7
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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是这样的
想着最后一个kiai和主难度一样放满点
然后我直接塞爆了
然后就4.2星了orz
不行的话 我把最后一段remap好了……
pw384
2,288 posts
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pw384

Ametrin wrote:

是这样的
想着最后一个kiai和主难度一样放满点
然后我直接塞爆了
然后就4.2星了orz
不行的话 我把最后一段remap好了……
[Ametrin's Insane]
star4.2的话减少点1/4跳，尤其是间距和1/2看上去差不多的时候...
00:49:723 (5,6) - 我建议去掉那个1/4，现在这样一方面间距太大另一方面这个1/4也不是很必要..
00:53:473 (1,2) - 同上
01:00:973 (4,5) - 这里间距太小了，而且01:00:973 (4,5,6,7) - 不顺手，需要调整一下
01:03:369 (7) - 删掉好了
01:03:056 (6,2) - 这个堆叠有点丑
01:05:140 (1,2,3,4) - 12之间加点间距，不然很容易被当成1/4
01:06:702 (6) - 如果01:03:369 (7) - 删了，这个也应该删掉
01:08:056 (6,7,1) - 67的anti-jump主意很棒，但建议尽量让6平分71
02:00:452 (2) - 删掉
02:03:890 (2,3,4,5) - 这里节奏不好，把234 5改成2 345会好得多
02:07:431 (2,1,2) - 太大了...
02:08:056 (1,2,3) - 集体移到453,114
02:35:140 (1,2,3,1) - 加点音效啊
02:45:140 (1,2,3,4,1) - 同上
02:51:806 (1,2) - 间距，如果想要比较小的间距的话，把1的头和2的头叠起来比anti-jump要更好
02:55:140 (1,2) - 同上
02:58:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - 加点音效
03:10:140 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这很难读而且不好玩
03:13:473 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这摆得不是很好。。。其实03:06:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 也不是很好
03:17:431 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 建议这里不要摆串
03:20:140 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这里也不太行。。
03:23:056 (6,1) - 加间距
03:38:473 (1,2) - 加一点间距
04:04:410 (4) - 这个note去掉（然后调整一下3和后面的串的间距），会好很多
04:11:806 - 最后overmap真的不太好。。而且塞得比我还满。。最好重新搞一下（搞善良一点233）
04:26:181 (2) - 删掉，转盘从这里开始
04:30:973 (1,2) - 删掉
04:45:140 (1,2) - 间距
04:48:056 (5,1) - 间距
04:48:890 (2,3) - 间距

问题还是有不少，先改一些吧（尤其是最后那个overmap）233
EncoreW
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TitleUnicode:Escapist
Artist:Nightwish
ArtistUnicode:Nightwish
Creator:384059043
Version:tm's Easy
Source:
Tags:Dark Passion Play symphonic metal
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OverallDifficulty:2.5
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科科
Ametrin
717 posts
Joined May 2012
Ametrin
开课啦

384059043 wrote:

Ametrin wrote:

是这样的
想着最后一个kiai和主难度一样放满点
然后我直接塞爆了
然后就4.2星了orz
不行的话 我把最后一段remap好了……
[Ametrin's Insane]
star4.2的话减少点1/4跳，尤其是间距和1/2看上去差不多的时候...
00:49:723 (5,6) - 我建议去掉那个1/4，现在这样一方面间距太大另一方面这个1/4也不是很必要..
00:53:473 (1,2) - 同上
01:00:973 (4,5) - 这里间距太小了，而且01:00:973 (4,5,6,7) - 不顺手，需要调整一下
01:03:369 (7) - 删掉好了
01:03:056 (6,2) - 这个堆叠有点丑
01:05:140 (1,2,3,4) - 12之间加点间距，不然很容易被当成1/4
01:06:702 (6) - 如果01:03:369 (7) - 删了，这个也应该删掉
01:08:056 (6,7,1) - 67的anti-jump主意很棒，但建议尽量让6平分71
02:00:452 (2) - 删掉
02:03:890 (2,3,4,5) - 这里节奏不好，把234 5改成2 345会好得多
02:07:431 (2,1,2) - 太大了...
02:08:056 (1,2,3) - 集体移到453,114
02:35:140 (1,2,3,1) - 加点音效啊
02:45:140 (1,2,3,4,1) - 同上
02:51:806 (1,2) - 间距，如果想要比较小的间距的话，把1的头和2的头叠起来比anti-jump要更好
02:55:140 (1,2) - 同上
02:58:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - 加点音效
03:10:140 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这很难读而且不好玩
03:13:473 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这摆得不是很好。。。其实03:06:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 也不是很好 这里想这么重叠着跳欸 先不改
03:17:431 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 建议这里不要摆串 我觉得这里塞1/4挺好？
03:20:140 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这里也不太行。。
03:23:056 (6,1) - 加间距
03:38:473 (1,2) - 加一点间距
04:04:410 (4) - 这个note去掉（然后调整一下3和后面的串的间距），会好很多
04:11:806 - 最后overmap真的不太好。。而且塞得比我还满。。最好重新搞一下（搞善良一点233）
04:26:181 (2) - 删掉，转盘从这里开始
04:30:973 (1,2) - 删掉
04:45:140 (1,2) - 间距
04:48:056 (5,1) - 间距
04:48:890 (2,3) - 间距

问题还是有不少，先改一些吧（尤其是最后那个overmap）233

塞爆部分被干掉了
我好像能打了
然后星数涨了欸(
重交作业
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426,222,209306,1,0,0:0:0:0:
307,307,209515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
407,138,209723,2,0,P|476:146|513:145,1,93.5000028533936
277,58,210140,5,8,0:0:0:0:
122,170,210348,1,0,0:0:0:0:
234,325,210556,1,8,0:0:0:0:
389,213,210765,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,82,210973,5,8,0:0:0:0:
146,271,211181,1,0,0:0:0:0:
335,301,211390,1,8,0:0:0:0:
365,112,211598,1,0,0:0:0:0:
365,112,211702,1,0,0:0:0:0:
365,112,211806,1,8,0:0:0:0:
315,90,218473,6,0,P|362:35|431:51,1,127.500004863739
507,170,219306,2,0,P|485:245|477:309,1,127.500004863739
414,365,219931,1,0,0:0:0:0:
357,287,220140,2,0,P|312:273|275:269,1,63.7500024318696
227,337,220556,2,0,P|205:295|201:267,1,63.7500024318696
106,272,220973,2,0,P|121:231|129:193,1,63.7500024318696
85,124,221390,2,0,P|130:114|158:120,1,63.7500024318696
264,185,221806,6,0,P|338:188|408:164,1,127.500004863739
435,90,222431,1,0,0:0:0:0:
289,32,222640,2,0,L|297:114,1,63.7500024318696
382,236,223056,2,0,L|390:154,1,63.7500024318696
145,121,223473,5,0,0:0:0:0:
122,216,223681,1,0,0:0:0:0:
171,300,223889,1,0,0:0:0:0:
265,328,224098,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,284,224306,1,0,0:0:0:0:
385,192,224514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
346,102,224723,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,64,224931,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,283,225140,6,0,B|430:257|486:254|486:254|442:244|417:210,1,203.999993774414,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
357,118,225765,1,0,0:0:0:0:
500,6,225973,2,0,L|512:123,1,101.999996887207
429,222,226285,1,0,0:0:0:0:
429,222,226390,2,0,L|440:324,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
357,118,226806,5,0,0:0:0:0:
512,106,227015,1,0,0:0:0:0:
334,209,227223,2,0,P|279:196|217:191,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
114,144,227640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
277,38,227848,1,0,0:0:0:0:
277,38,227952,1,0,0:0:0:0:
277,38,228056,1,8,0:0:0:0:
146,0,228265,1,0,0:0:0:0:
233,191,228473,6,0,P|234:256|238:317,1,101.999996887207
44,346,228890,1,8,0:0:0:0:
148,253,229098,1,0,0:0:0:0:
0,109,229306,2,0,P|45:125|102:132,1,101.999996887207
277,38,229723,1,8,0:0:0:0:
146,0,229931,1,0,0:0:0:0:
233,191,230140,6,0,P|270:157|340:144,1,101.999996887207
473,95,230556,2,0,P|422:83|382:40,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
512,14,230973,1,0,0:0:0:0:
318,143,231181,1,0,0:0:0:0:
487,208,231390,1,8,0:0:0:0:
508,248,231494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
511,293,231598,1,0,0:0:0:0:
495,336,231702,1,0,0:0:0:0:
460,363,231806,6,0,P|411:346|343:337,1,101.999996887207
304,227,232223,1,8,0:0:0:0:
487,208,232431,1,0,0:0:0:0:
335,31,232640,2,0,L|323:148,1,101.999996887207
231,203,232952,1,0,0:0:0:0:
231,203,233056,2,0,L|219:320,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,379,233473,5,0,0:0:0:0:
221,305,233681,1,0,0:0:0:0:
36,155,233890,1,8,0:0:0:0:
90,297,234098,1,0,0:0:0:0:
90,297,234202,1,0,0:0:0:0:
90,297,234306,1,0,0:0:0:0:
210,203,234515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
99,56,234723,2,0,P|48:71|-10:73,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,0,235140,6,0,P|190:62|183:178,1,152.999995330811
138,231,235556,2,0,B|189:263|232:205|291:240,1,152.999995330811,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
390,95,235973,2,0,P|341:101|296:131,1,101.999996887207
388,203,236285,1,0,0:0:0:0:
388,203,236390,2,0,P|402:253|406:317,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
482,197,236806,5,0,0:0:0:0:
337,358,237015,1,0,0:0:0:0:
151,275,237223,1,8,0:0:0:0:
297,129,237431,1,0,0:0:0:0:
297,129,237535,1,0,0:0:0:0:
297,129,237640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
151,275,237848,1,0,0:0:0:0:
306,244,238056,1,8,0:0:0:0:
127,121,238265,1,0,0:0:0:0:
60,383,238473,6,0,P|130:357|261:340,1,203.999993774414,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,246,239098,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,246,239202,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,246,239306,2,0,P|363:250|302:242,1,101.999996887207
222,163,239619,1,0,0:0:0:0:
222,163,239723,2,0,P|169:167|108:159,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,13,240140,5,0,0:0:0:0:
196,58,240348,1,0,0:0:0:0:
0,137,240556,2,0,P|12:188|17:245,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,374,240869,1,0,0:0:0:0:
0,374,240973,2,0,P|46:349|97:335,1,101.999996887207
276,324,241390,1,8,0:0:0:0:
118,176,241598,1,0,0:0:0:0:
118,176,241702,1,0,0:0:0:0:
118,176,241806,5,0,0:0:0:0:
168,297,242015,1,0,0:0:0:0:
302,151,242223,2,0,P|353:130|406:130,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
505,204,242640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
361,270,242848,1,0,0:0:0:0:
423,40,243056,1,8,0:0:0:0:
423,40,243160,1,0,0:0:0:0:
423,40,243265,1,0,0:0:0:0:
219,179,243473,6,0,P|168:174|117:175,1,101.999996887207
40,13,243890,2,0,P|90:18|140:56,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
117,174,244306,1,0,0:0:0:0:
2,264,244515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
35,295,244619,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,297,244723,1,8,0:0:0:0:
122,279,244827,1,0,0:0:0:0:
163,260,244931,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,258,245035,1,0,0:0:0:0:
247,282,245140,6,0,P|259:336|258:383,1,101.999996887207
82,209,245556,1,8,0:0:0:0:
148,106,245765,1,0,0:0:0:0:
148,106,245869,1,0,0:0:0:0:
148,106,245973,2,0,P|213:107|259:96,1,101.999996887207
348,161,246285,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,161,246390,2,0,P|413:162|459:151,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
512,30,246806,5,0,0:0:0:0:
451,256,247015,1,0,0:0:0:0:
366,67,247223,1,8,0:0:0:0:
366,67,247327,1,0,0:0:0:0:
366,67,247431,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,154,247640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
279,265,247848,1,0,0:0:0:0:
152,131,248056,2,0,P|211:130|268:146,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
58,210,248473,6,0,B|40:284|74:301|56:364,1,152.999995330811
278,264,248890,2,0,P|206:240|131:248,1,152.999995330811,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,139,249306,2,0,P|299:141|355:121,1,101.999996887207
452,50,249619,1,0,0:0:0:0:
452,50,249723,2,0,L|436:166,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
500,257,250140,5,0,0:0:0:0:
288,270,250348,1,0,0:0:0:0:
438,151,250556,1,8,0:0:0:0:
476,357,250765,1,0,0:0:0:0:
476,357,250869,1,0,0:0:0:0:
476,357,250973,5,0,0:0:0:0:
436,380,251077,1,0,0:0:0:0:
390,384,251181,1,0,0:0:0:0:
347,365,251285,1,0,0:0:0:0:
315,330,251390,1,8,0:0:0:0:
276,305,251494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
230,301,251598,1,0,0:0:0:0:
189,323,251702,1,0,0:0:0:0:
165,362,251806,6,0,P|112:353|62:349,1,101.999996887207,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,232,252119,1,0,0:0:0:0:
0,232,252223,2,0,P|55:227|113:216,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
22,0,252640,2,0,P|28:53|32:116,1,101.999996887207
31,125,252952,1,0,0:0:0:0:
28,146,253056,1,8,0:0:0:0:
216,80,253265,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,226,253473,6,0,P|262:224|201:209,1,101.999996887207
386,347,253890,2,0,P|443:313|501:312,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,148,254306,1,0,0:0:0:0:
512,194,254515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
512,194,254619,1,0,0:0:0:0:
512,194,254723,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,0,254931,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,0,255035,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,0,255140,6,0,P|432:56|425:117,1,101.999996887207
270,189,255556,1,8,0:0:0:0:
423,212,255765,1,0,0:0:0:0:
267,61,255973,1,0,0:0:0:0:
228,35,256077,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,29,256181,1,0,0:0:0:0:
138,43,256285,1,0,0:0:0:0:
113,82,256390,2,0,P|105:132|106:158,3,50.9999984436036,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
27,175,256806,6,0,L|39:294,1,101.999996887207
208,180,257223,1,8,0:0:0:0:
37,276,257431,1,0,0:0:0:0:
214,353,257640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
379,245,257848,1,0,0:0:0:0:
340,219,257952,1,0,0:0:0:0:
294,216,258056,1,8,0:0:0:0:
251,231,258160,1,0,0:0:0:0:
214,259,258265,1,0,0:0:0:0:
170,271,258369,1,0,0:0:0:0:
124,263,258473,6,0,P|109:232|100:162,1,101.999996887207
234,29,258785,1,0,0:0:0:0:
234,29,258890,2,0,L|220:143,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
11,62,259306,2,0,L|112:60,1,101.999996887207
221,130,259619,1,0,0:0:0:0:
221,130,259723,2,0,L|330:126,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
449,40,260140,5,0,0:0:0:0:
269,16,260348,1,0,0:0:0:0:
381,193,260556,1,8,0:0:0:0:
196,291,260765,1,0,0:0:0:0:
196,291,260869,1,0,0:0:0:0:
196,291,260973,2,0,P|195:231|214:178,1,101.999996887207
307,102,261390,2,0,P|241:100|176:77,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
411,16,261806,6,0,P|461:13|520:24,1,101.999996887207
416,209,262223,1,8,0:0:0:0:
459,102,262431,1,0,0:0:0:0:
488,297,262640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
452,325,262744,1,0,0:0:0:0:
406,327,262848,1,0,0:0:0:0:
363,310,262952,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,280,263056,2,0,P|303:273|263:271,3,50.9999984436036,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
201,329,263473,6,0,P|136:316|76:316,1,101.999996887207
32,111,263890,2,0,P|67:119|149:126,1,101.999996887207,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
297,43,264306,1,0,0:0:0:0:
230,240,264515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
267,213,264619,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,209,264723,1,8,0:0:0:0:
356,221,264827,1,0,0:0:0:0:
397,240,264931,1,0,0:0:0:0:
442,244,265035,1,0,0:0:0:0:
485,227,265140,5,0,0:0:0:0:
419,140,265348,1,0,0:0:0:0:
419,140,265452,1,0,0:0:0:0:
419,140,265556,1,8,0:0:0:0:
309,310,265765,1,0,0:0:0:0:
309,310,265869,1,0,0:0:0:0:
309,310,265973,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,266181,12,0,268265,0:0:0:0:
256,192,268473,12,0,270973,0:0:0:0:
256,224,271390,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,320,271598,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,271806,12,0,273265,0:0:0:0:
256,192,273473,12,0,274931,0:0:0:0:
256,192,275140,12,0,278473,0:0:0:0:
19,39,285140,6,0,P|48:11|97:6,1,85
177,85,285556,2,0,L|201:267,1,170
153,346,286181,2,0,P|114:334|59:337,1,85
284,314,286598,6,0,P|334:336|452:345,1,170
505,241,287223,1,0,0:0:0:0:
361,250,287431,1,0,0:0:0:0:
431,96,287640,2,0,P|438:147|430:201,1,85
361,250,288056,1,0,0:0:0:0:
164,157,288265,6,0,B|117:156|80:176|80:176|42:154|-11:156,1,170
125,0,288890,2,0,P|177:26|184:72,1,85
164,157,289306,1,0,0:0:0:0:
197,281,289515,1,0,0:0:0:0:
53,312,289723,1,0,0:0:0:0:
198,366,289931,6,0,P|195:299|202:256,1,85
256,192,290348,1,0,0:0:0:0:
427,167,290556,6,0,P|371:203|330:218,1,85
256,192,290973,1,0,0:0:0:0:
150,56,291181,6,0,P|209:87|243:115,1,85
EncoreW
833 posts
Joined June 2013
EncoreW
可以把anette olzon加进去因为是主唱
-LynX-
131 posts
Joined December 2013
-LynX-
from queue, sorry for the late mod :/ busy week
Normal
  1. 01:00:973 (3,4) - 这个是1/1，不要stack比较好吧，这个pattern 01:02:431 (2,3) - 重复了很多次但它是1/2，可能会让新玩家混乱。况且，01:01:181 - 有重音，玩家很有可能会早按
  2. 03:00:140 (1,2) - 这个blanket有点明显off xd
  3. 03:42:223 (1,2,3) - 个人觉得这个节奏和音乐不太搭配，建议把 03:42:223 (1,2) - 化成一个滑条
  4. 04:29:931 (2) - 把滑条头移到 04:30:140 - 会好些
  5. 04:36:181 (2,1) - 建议跟vocals https://puu.sh/wdG6U/8983cc6c63.png
  6. 个人不是很喜欢copy paste的部分 :/
Hard
  1. 01:14:098 (3,4) - 这个pattern之前重复过，但之前的是1/1，这个却是1/2，可能会混乱玩家
  2. 02:38:056 (5) - 个人觉得3个圈会比较适合
  3. 03:17:640 (2,1) - 这个是1/2的stack，03:16:806 (1,2) - 却是1/1的stack
  4. 04:13:681 (2,3) - 个人觉得这个节奏不太搭配音乐
  5. 04:20:348 (2,3) - ^
Ametrin's Insane
  1. 01:11:390 (4) - 这个音没有被拉长的感觉，所以觉得1/2滑条会比较合适
  2. 01:35:140 (1,2) - 2 是重音但间距和其他的比起来的话有点小
  3. 02:06:806 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 这里可以逐渐提升hitsound音量
  4. 02:08:056 (1,2,3) - 音乐没有1/4啊
  5. 02:53:890 (5) - 02:57:224 (5) - 这里怎么突然改成跟鼓呢，觉得如果跟电吉他的话会比较好
  6. 04:04:515 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - 建议改成3个1/4滑条
  7. 04:15:973 (4,5,6,7,8) - 04:22:640 (4,5,6,7,8) - 这里真的有点突兀，音乐没有1/4
  8. 04:17:640 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 同上，改成4个1/4滑条
  9. 04:24:619 (5) - 删掉这个圈会比较搭配音乐
Extrication
  1. 01:38:473 (1,2,3,4) - 个人觉得这样的间距会比较搭配音乐 https://puu.sh/wegOE/68b15b20b2.png
  2. 01:39:306 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  3. 02:20:973 (1) - 1/2滑条会比较合适吧
  4. 04:08:056 (2,3,1) - 建议把 3 移下一点，flow会比较好
  5. 04:46:806 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 听不出这里在跟什么，建议跟电吉他？
  6. 感觉Ametrin的insane object density 比 extrication 还高，可能需要改一下
that's all from me, good luck :)
pw384
2,288 posts
Joined January 2012
Topic Starter
pw384

-LynX- wrote:

from queue, sorry for the late mod :/ busy week
Normal
  1. 01:00:973 (3,4) - 这个是1/1，不要stack比较好吧，这个pattern 01:02:431 (2,3) - 重复了很多次但它是1/2，可能会让新玩家混乱。况且，01:01:181 - 有重音，玩家很有可能会早按 :arrow: 有道理，改了
  2. 03:00:140 (1,2) - 这个blanket有点明显off xd :arrow: 尽全力改了一下，好像看上去好多了...？
  3. 03:42:223 (1,2,3) - 个人觉得这个节奏和音乐不太搭配，建议把 03:42:223 (1,2) - 化成一个滑条 :arrow: 这里想跟着低音和鼓走
  4. 04:29:931 (2) - 把滑条头移到 04:30:140 - 会好些 :arrow: 现在这样感觉也没什么问题...
  5. 04:36:181 (2,1) - 建议跟vocals https://puu.sh/wdG6U/8983cc6c63.png :arrow: 好主意，我重新改了一下节奏
  6. 个人不是很喜欢copy paste的部分 :/
Hard
  1. 01:14:098 (3,4) - 这个pattern之前重复过，但之前的是1/1，这个却是1/2，可能会混乱玩家 :arrow: 实际上这个pattern的顺序是不同的，之前的1/1是要沿着圆的直径走过去，而这里1/2的间距更小，而且既然是hard那么这么放应该没什么问题
  2. 02:38:056 (5) - 个人觉得3个圈会比较适合 :arrow: 好像是的
  3. 03:17:640 (2,1) - 这个是1/2的stack，03:16:806 (1,2) - 却是1/1的stack :arrow: 改了
  4. 04:13:681 (2,3) - 个人觉得这个节奏不太搭配音乐 :arrow: 发现问题了...改了改顺序，符合提琴了
  5. 04:20:348 (2,3) - ^

Extrication
  1. 01:38:473 (1,2,3,4) - 个人觉得这样的间距会比较搭配音乐 https://puu.sh/wegOE/68b15b20b2.png :arrow: 用另一种方式改了改
  2. 01:39:306 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  3. 02:20:973 (1) - 1/2滑条会比较合适吧 :arrow: 好像还是1/4更好
  4. 04:08:056 (2,3,1) - 建议把 3 移下一点，flow会比较好 :arrow: 好主意
  5. 04:46:806 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 听不出这里在跟什么，建议跟电吉他？ :arrow: 鼓
that's all from me, good luck :)
非常有用的建议，感谢！
blobdash
912 posts
Joined April 2016
blobdash
Hello!
From my queue!
NM but i'm desperately looking for mods on this map... So you know, if you wanna suggest a thing or two... ;)

Here's the mod!
At first I was really surprised to see the top diff at 4.5*, but it make sense when I see how you mapped it.
To be honest, it would be possible to map it arround 5.5*, but I think the "non kiai" would be overmapped.

Extrication
00:11:806 (1,1) - If you know how to sliderart, a slider would be ebtter than a reversing one. (it's fine imo) Like here 00:25:556 (4,1) -

00:43:265 (3,1) - wew that's an ugly overlap. If the slider didn't had that shape you could stack but here it doesn't look great

01:28:473 (1,2) - For the rest of the map the next object after a slider wasn't completely under the previous slider, why not here? https://puu.sh/wf1wh/94b5f107cc.png Nevermind it's a new pattern, but why not keeping the old pattern? The other pattern looks better in my opinion

01:43:890 (2,3,4) - Would be awesome if (3) (4) and (2)'s sliderend was aligned

02:21:390 (2,3,4) - Maybe drag this little stream a little bit to the left? The distance between (4) and the slider is too big compared to the stream spacing

02:28:056 (1,2) - If you overlap the first one then overlap the 2nd slider, or don't overlap

03:17:640 (1) - This sliderart is beatifull, but most people would sliderbreak on that. There's no actual point where you can stand still in the beginning. Players are usually going to try to find a point where they can stand still on weird sliders, and here it would be the middle in height, except that you can slider break in the beginning. For example : 03:30:973 (1) - here, if i was sightreading, i would do a straight line, due to the speed of the slider.
I would reduce the height of the slider.

04:26:077 (1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1) - Spinner spams are great, but again, I would recommend slider arts.


Really good difficulty, well structured. Ready for BN in my opinion.
Ametrin's Insane
The diff NEEDS to start at the same time than the top diff. It's not a rule, but here just map these 50 seconds.

Why Grid Size 1? (you probably don't use GS but mmm k)

01:21:390 (7,8) - I would stack tbh (and i would also stack the other double circles)

01:41:806 (1) - I would expect this slider to follow the jump pattern. Ctrl+J the jumps in my opinion

02:21:806 (1,3) - overlap

02:36:806 (2,3,1) - These does not need to be mapped

03:24:931 (8,1) - The distance between these two is... meh

03:44:514 (6,1) - overlap

03:54:515 (7,1,2) - d-d-d-double overlap!

03:56:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - that square is... not really a square XDDD

04:17:223 (2,8) - really tiny overlap, fine IMO

04:24:515 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Ctrl+J

04:26:181 (1) - snap it to the blue tick instead, it takes too much time to appear

04:31:806 (1) - Add a circle on the white tick and move the spinner on the blue tick. You click the previous vocals but not the strongest one???

Good diff overall. Needs 2/3 to polish, and it'll be awesome!

I'm gonna stop here because to be honest modding 5 min maps gets really boring on low SR difficulties.

Good luck with this map! Hope you'll rank it :D
pw384
2,288 posts
Joined January 2012
Topic Starter
pw384

FruityEnLoops wrote:

Hello!
From my queue!
NM but i'm desperately looking for mods on this map... So you know, if you wanna suggest a thing or two... ;)
:arrow: Well, probably I'll give a mod after my last final exam! :D
Here's the mod!
At first I was really surprised to see the top diff at 4.5*, but it make sense when I see how you mapped it.
To be honest, it would be possible to map it arround 5.5*, but I think the "non kiai" would be overmapped.
:arrow: umm I wonder why it is only 4.5* lol I used to expect it to reach 5 stars when I was done with thinking about the patterns
Extrication
00:11:806 (1,1) - If you know how to sliderart, a slider would be ebtter than a reversing one. (it's fine imo) Like here 00:25:556 (4,1) -
:arrow: 00:25:556 (4,1) here involves constant violins while 00:11:806 follows the tremolo. The difference decides whether I use slider arts or 1/4~1/6 kick sliders
00:43:265 (3,1) - wew that's an ugly overlap. If the slider didn't had that shape you could stack but here it doesn't look great
:arrow: haha that's quite ugly I know, fixed
01:28:473 (1,2) - For the rest of the map the next object after a slider wasn't completely under the previous slider, why not here? https://puu.sh/wf1wh/94b5f107cc.png Nevermind it's a new pattern, but why not keeping the old pattern? The other pattern looks better in my opinion
:arrow: well also I want to differ the instrument part at 01:28:473 - from that at 00:48:473 - . The intention is that the weird pattern (01:28:473 (1,2) - ) indicates the tighter fetter of reality's maze.
01:43:890 (2,3,4) - Would be awesome if (3) (4) and (2)'s sliderend was aligned
:arrow: umm but if that the spacing would be a bit unnatural... so I move the circle a bit far away from the slider
02:21:390 (2,3,4) - Maybe drag this little stream a little bit to the left? The distance between (4) and the slider is too big compared to the stream spacing
:arrow: well i'm okay with it
02:28:056 (1,2) - If you overlap the first one then overlap the 2nd slider, or don't overlap
:arrow: the overlap is fun and good-looking imo... and on the other hand, the pattern features an increasing spacing together with a good flow within 02:27:640 (3,1,2) - ,and that's hard to be done without an overlap.
03:17:640 (1) - This sliderart is beatifull, but most people would sliderbreak on that. There's no actual point where you can stand still in the beginning. Players are usually going to try to find a point where they can stand still on weird sliders, and here it would be the middle in height, except that you can slider break in the beginning. For example : 03:30:973 (1) - here, if i was sightreading, i would do a straight line, due to the speed of the slider.
I would reduce the height of the slider.
:arrow: That makes sense, so I reduced the height by ~12%
04:26:077 (1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1) - Spinner spams are great, but again, I would recommend slider arts.
:arrow: In fact I've tried a LOT of slider arts in my previous maps. This time i'd like to have a go at spinner spams! :D

Really good difficulty, well structured. Ready for BN in my opinion.
Good luck with this map! Hope you'll rank it :D
Thank you again! Quite useful mod! :)
Ametrin
717 posts
Joined May 2012
Ametrin
我tmd终于考完了
好像占了2kd位置

no reply = fixed
Lynx

-LynX- wrote:

from queue, sorry for the late mod :/ busy week

Ametrin's Insane
  1. 01:11:390 (4) - 这个音没有被拉长的感觉，所以觉得1/2滑条会比较合适 和之前保持一致吧 这里3/4也行
  2. 01:35:140 (1,2) - 2 是重音但间距和其他的比起来的话有点小 倒不觉得是重音……扭了一下
  3. 02:06:806 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 这里可以逐渐提升hitsound音量
  4. 02:08:056 (1,2,3) - 音乐没有1/4啊 打着爽(
  5. 02:53:890 (5) - 02:57:224 (5) - 这里怎么突然改成跟鼓呢，觉得如果跟电吉他的话会比较好
  6. 04:04:515 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - 建议改成3个1/4滑条 改成两个了
  7. 04:15:973 (4,5,6,7,8) - 04:22:640 (4,5,6,7,8) - 这里真的有点突兀，音乐没有1/4 小提琴有音吧 感觉还比较明显
  8. 04:17:640 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 同上，改成4个1/4滑条
  9. 04:24:619 (5) - 删掉这个圈会比较搭配音乐 短滑条

FruityEnLoops

FruityEnLoops wrote:

The diff NEEDS to start at the same time than the top diff. It's not a rule, but here just map these 50 seconds. only the highest diff will start at the very beginningand im lazy

Why Grid Size 1? (you probably don't use GS but mmm k) yes i totally ignored it lol

01:21:390 (7,8) - I would stack tbh (and i would also stack the other double circles) that's intended

01:41:806 (1) - I would expect this slider to follow the jump pattern. Ctrl+J the jumps in my opinion changed all the jump

02:21:806 (1,3) - overlap

02:36:806 (2,3,1) - These does not need to be mapped

03:24:931 (8,1) - The distance between these two is... meh

03:44:514 (6,1) - overlap

03:54:515 (7,1,2) - d-d-d-double overlap!

03:56:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - that square is... not really a square XDDD

04:17:223 (2,8) - really tiny overlap, fine IMO

04:24:515 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Ctrl+J changed in other way

04:26:181 (1) - snap it to the blue tick instead, it takes too much time to appear

04:31:806 (1) - Add a circle on the white tick and move the spinner on the blue tick. You click the previous vocals but not the strongest one??? same with the escapist diff

Good diff overall. Needs 2/3 to polish, and it'll be awesome!

gtmd仪器分析
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[Nemesis]
[Nemesis]
Mod from my queue. [Insert a ching-chong joke here since the mapper is chinese]

offset=120

Ametrin's Insane

your style reminds me of pishifat's, have you been inspired by him perhaps? :3

00:55:140 (1) - why isn't this slider like all the other ones on the drop? this is the only time where you use this shape in the entire buildup and I think that's a little inconsistent
01:27:640 (6,7,8) - the stack on (7) might come as unexpected since you've never used it before, I suggest using a different flow here since the pattern is introduced way too late (I just noticed that you're not using it anywhere else too)
02:31:806 (1,2,3) - even though this is a kiai time you have to keep in mind that it's a 1/4 jump after all. I feel like it's a bit off throwing and may come up as an unnecessary difficulty spike, maybe you'd reduce the spacing a little to avoid sliderbreaks? I know that you've been using a couple of 1/4 sliderjumps before, but this is the only one that doesn't come with a circle which avoids sliderbreaks/100's on slidertail
02:38:473 - imo you should continue the rhythm there, the guitar sound is pretty distinct so you shouldn't just lazily throw a break in
02:50:140 - this is an important sound and shouldn't be expressed just as a slidertail, I suggest you cut the slider into just one repeat and throw in additional circle or a 1/4 slider
03:03:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - I really like the buildup there, good job!
03:05:140 - this should really be a kiai time. It has the same intensity as 03:45:140 - , has the same vocals and relatively the same sv.
03:57:223 (3,7) - again, offthrowing stack that has only been used in the map TWICE as of this point. Please change it or use it more frequently to avoid confusion
04:08:056 (8) - ctrl+g would make better flow in general imo
04:38:473 - again, this should be mapped
04:47:431 (3,5) - offthrowiiing, you started using it more frequently now, but not introduced way earlier so this pattern should be erased from the entire map
04:51:598 - circle? xd

Extrication

00:13:056 - end the slider there, 00:13:265 - start another one here
00:15:973 - and 00:16:181 - ^
00:26:390 (1) - kewl slider btw
00:29:723 (3,4,5,6) - this is actually misleading. All the circles seem to indicate that the flow is building up, yet this one 00:31:181 (6) - , despite being 1/2 of a beat later is mapped as if it was mapped with an equal timeline snap. That can be really troublesome so I recommend you decrease the spacing between 3, 4 and 5
00:48:473 - man this song is good
01:05:556 (2) - this entire section's patterns like this should be mapped as two circles to keep the map consistent comparing to the previous section, btw
03:58:055 (1,2,3,4,1) - I feel like a pentagon shaped stream isn't really that good of a choice, I'd just keep it similar to 03:44:723 (3,4,5,6,7) -
04:35:244 (1,1) - keep it as one spinner, the change in vocals isn't that significant
04:39:723 - again, this should be mapped (glad you mapped the previous section I've mentioned in Insane)
04:51:598 - circle/slider repeat? xd

All from me, good luck!
pw384
2,288 posts
Joined January 2012
Topic Starter
pw384

[Nemesis] wrote:

Mod from my queue. [Insert a ching-chong joke here since the mapper is chinese]

offset=120 :arrow: I found that 120 is still off... so I kept 140 for now

Extrication

00:13:056 - end the slider there, 00:13:265 - start another one here :arrow: for a constant pitch, I prefer a single slider here
00:15:973 - and 00:16:181 - ^ :arrow: ^
00:26:390 (1) - kewl slider btw :arrow: lol
00:29:723 (3,4,5,6) - this is actually misleading. All the circles seem to indicate that the flow is building up, yet this one 00:31:181 (6) - , despite being 1/2 of a beat later is mapped as if it was mapped with an equal timeline snap. That can be really troublesome so I recommend you decrease the spacing between 3, 4 and 5 :arrow: makes sense! I increase the spacing between 5 and 6
00:48:473 - man this song is good :arrow: symphonic rock is good
01:05:556 (2) - this entire section's patterns like this should be mapped as two circles to keep the map consistent comparing to the previous section, btw :arrow: that's right
03:58:055 (1,2,3,4,1) - I feel like a pentagon shaped stream isn't really that good of a choice, I'd just keep it similar to 03:44:723 (3,4,5,6,7) - :arrow: well I think that's okay
04:35:244 (1,1) - keep it as one spinner, the change in vocals isn't that significant :arrow: that's true
04:39:723 - again, this should be mapped (glad you mapped the previous section I've mentioned in Insane) :arrow: i'd like a rest after the exhausting spinner spam. also that's for players to get prepared for the last jumps!
04:51:598 - circle/slider repeat? xd :arrow: no lol

All from me, good luck!
useful mod! thank you very much! :)
Ametrin
717 posts
Joined May 2012
Ametrin

[Nemesis] wrote:

Mod from my queue. [Insert a ching-chong joke here since the mapper is chinese]

offset=120

Ametrin's Insane

your style reminds me of pishifat's, have you been inspired by him perhaps? :3 maybe yes? idk :)

00:55:140 (1) - why isn't this slider like all the other ones on the drop? this is the only time where you use this shape in the entire buildup and I think that's a little inconsistent but it fit good now so i just keep it
01:27:640 (6,7,8) - the stack on (7) might come as unexpected since you've never used it before, I suggest using a different flow here since the pattern is introduced way too late (I just noticed that you're not using it anywhere else too)
02:31:806 (1,2,3) - even though this is a kiai time you have to keep in mind that it's a 1/4 jump after all. I feel like it's a bit off throwing and may come up as an unnecessary difficulty spike, maybe you'd reduce the spacing a little to avoid sliderbreaks? I know that you've been using a couple of 1/4 sliderjumps before, but this is the only one that doesn't come with a circle which avoids sliderbreaks/100's on slidertail
02:38:473 - imo you should continue the rhythm there, the guitar sound is pretty distinct so you shouldn't just lazily throw a break in uhhh... if someone said this too then i'll try to map it, now im kinda lazy lol
02:50:140 - this is an important sound and shouldn't be expressed just as a slidertail, I suggest you cut the slider into just one repeat and throw in additional circle or a 1/4 slider
03:03:473 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - I really like the buildup there, good job!
03:05:140 - this should really be a kiai time. It has the same intensity as 03:45:140 - , has the same vocals and relatively the same sv.
keep same with extrication
03:57:223 (3,7) - again, offthrowing stack that has only been used in the map TWICE as of this point. Please change it or use it more frequently to avoid confusion
04:08:056 (8) - ctrl+g would make better flow in general imo don't want to made 04:08:056 (8,2) - at same direction so keep it
04:38:473 - again, this should be mapped ^
04:47:431 (3,5) - offthrowiiing, you started using it more frequently now, but not introduced way earlier so this pattern should be erased from the entire map
04:51:598 - circle? xd no lol

All from me, good luck!
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jas
542 posts
Joined August 2016
jas
ok

amertuns isane

01:15:140 (1) - https://puu.sh/wAegT/c04c2c8586.png i feel like this shape works much better aesthetically

01:27:848 (7,8) - was expecting ctrl g

01:29:098 (5,6) - ok so here you have a 1/2 stack, but in the same section you have a 1/4 stack ( 01:30:869 (3,4) - ) and this is confusing to the player to have the same stack visually, but different rhthym, same for others with same pattern

01:45:140 (1) - same as 1st thing said

02:16:806 (1,2,3) - why not make a perfect triangle?

04:24:723 (5,6,7,8,1) - pretty ugly stream

04:26:077 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1) - 15 seconds of spinners is really boring and it looks like this was done out of laziness tbh, for the sake of players pls map


extrication or whatever

00:05:973 (1,2,3,4,5) - the rhythym is a pattern of five, but you visually put it like a pattern of three... make like the first pattern, just ctrl g a few times to make a star?

00:23:472 (1,2,3,4,5) - same logic as above

00:26:390 (1) - nice shape

02:36:806 (1) - aside from being louder, i dont feel liek this deserves a lot of emphasis as its relativily the same sound, maybe just increase sv but keep same shape

04:25:973 (2,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1) - LMAO SAME WITH INSANE

04:51:181 (2) - xince this is the strongest, emphasize with spacing?



am i in realitiy's maze?
pw384
2,288 posts
Joined January 2012
Topic Starter
pw384

CraEZy wrote:

extrication or whatever

00:05:973 (1,2,3,4,5) - the rhythym is a pattern of five, but you visually put it like a pattern of three... make like the first pattern, just ctrl g a few times to make a star? :arrow: pentagon to square to triangle to line segment (5 4 3 2) as you could see here lol

00:23:472 (1,2,3,4,5) - same logic as above

00:26:390 (1) - nice shape :arrow: nice broken merry-go-round

02:36:806 (1) - aside from being louder, i dont feel liek this deserves a lot of emphasis as its relativily the same sound, maybe just increase sv but keep same shape :arrow: well the instrument has changed here, as well as the volumn, so i'd like to use a wiggle slider here. the thicker shape stands for horn while the wiggle sliderball emphasize the volume

04:25:973 (2,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1) - LMAO SAME WITH INSANE :arrow: actuall I'm inspired by https://osu.ppy.sh/s/10580 lol

04:51:181 (2) - xince this is the strongest, emphasize with spacing? :arrow: nice idea!
thank you very much for the modding! :D
TheFlofper
14 posts
Joined January 2017
TheFlofper
hard
- 04:26:161 (1,1,1,1) - you should fill the spinners with sliders / have 2 spinners with one really short
- 04:14:286 (3,4,5,1) - this slider interaction is really intresting (i liked it)
Amertin's insane
- 02:14:703 (5,6,7,8,1) - and this 02:28:036 (5,6,7,8,1) - should be matching
- 04:24:495 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - this stream is not symetrical
- the jumps are really deceiving
Extrication
- 00:00:120 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - a really good intro but the other difficulties need intro too
- 00:11:786 (1,1) - those sliders really aren't necessary
- 00:37:411 (1) - 00:43:870 (1) - this sliders should be split in 2
- 01:28:245 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - having sliders overlap like this is not recommended
- 03:03:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i don't like this spacing
04:25:536 (1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1) - this is too much spinners

overall an easy and fun mapset and i really like the song
Ametrin
717 posts
Joined May 2012
Ametrin

CraEZy wrote:

ok

amertuns isane

01:15:140 (1) - https://puu.sh/wAegT/c04c2c8586.png i feel like this shape works much better aesthetically

01:27:848 (7,8) - was expecting ctrl g then the ds between 8 and 1 turns to be too large

01:29:098 (5,6) - ok so here you have a 1/2 stack, but in the same section you have a 1/4 stack ( 01:30:869 (3,4) - ) and this is confusing to the player to have the same stack visually, but different rhthym, same for others with same pattern man this is not hard... these pattern is ok in insane

01:45:140 (1) - same as 1st thing said

02:16:806 (1,2,3) - why not make a perfect triangle? will make a new pattern

04:24:723 (5,6,7,8,1) - pretty ugly stream

04:26:077 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1) - 15 seconds of spinners is really boring and it looks like this was done out of laziness tbh, for the sake of players pls map lol no

TheFlofper wrote:

Amertin's insane
- 02:14:703 (5,6,7,8,1) - and this 02:28:036 (5,6,7,8,1) - should be matching
- 04:24:495 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - this stream is not symetrical
- the jumps are really deceiving that's wat i want lol

overall an easy and fun mapset and i really like the song
no reply = fixed


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164,157,289286,1,0,0:0:0:0:
197,281,289495,1,0,0:0:0:0:
53,312,289703,1,0,0:0:0:0:
198,366,289911,6,0,P|195:299|202:256,1,85
256,192,290328,1,0,0:0:0:0:
427,167,290536,6,0,P|371:203|330:218,1,85
256,192,290953,1,0,0:0:0:0:
150,56,291161,6,0,P|209:87|243:115,1,85

现在感觉这图真鸡儿丑
找时间改一波
Yahuri
1,406 posts
Joined July 2014
Yahuri
NM from my q

Ametrin's Insane
00:51:682 - 00:58:349 - 01:05:015 - 01:11:682 - 01:31:682 - silence these slidertails theres a lot of them so i wont point out more
00:49:703 (4) - 00:56:370 (4) - 00:59:703 (4) - 01:03:036 (5) - 01:06:370 (4) - change into 2 circles for guitar emphasis?
00:57:203 (2,3) - should be a 1/2 slider imo, 3 isnt that strong of a note
01:27:203 - 01:53:870 - 01:54:703 (3) - 01:54:911 (4,5) - add clap?
01:30:849 (3) - 01:37:099 (2) - 02:03:349 (6) - 02:04:182 (4) - 02:06:786 (1) - 02:08:140 (2) - overmapped, remove circles
01:39:286 - add finish?
01:40:745 (2) - 01:41:161 (2) - 02:06:995 (2) - remove claps? theres only kick drum here
01:57:620 (3,1) - fix stack
03:14:703 - 03:29:703 - add clap
03:43:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - add some hitsounds here, the drums are doing interesting stuff
04:07:828 (7,1,2) - isnt this jump kinda big?
04:28:245 - 04:33:245 - 04:34:911 - hitsound sounds really bad here, silence spinners
04:26:057 - 04:38:453 - about 12s work of spinning time, which is a lot. u could map it out instead
nothing really bothers me except overmapping and objects which should be silenced. everything else is fine.

Extrication
like ametrin's diff, theres a lot of overmapping
00:47:620 (1) - got caught off guard here, this is significantly slower than the previous sliders in this section
02:06:370 (1) - ^ using the same SV as 02:05:745 (3) should be fine, the music doesn't start buildup until this 02:06:995 (1) note

good luck
Silence1020
85 posts
Joined December 2016
Silence1020
01:30:120 (1,2,3,4) - The circle (3) doesn't seem to be representative of the music as there's no sound on the blue tick so maybe remove it. What I don't like about these three sliders though, is their flow; to me, the heads of the sliders land on sounds that are so distinct/sharp-sounding that they could be represented by circles alone. Due to this, I feel like the angles between the sliders should be sharp instead of this circularly-flowing motion. (By sharp-sounding I mean that the sounds are more similar to a drum hit- short, distinct- than to a piano key press- a sound that continues or doesn't stop near instantaneously.) I feel like this has been done well here 01:56:786 (1,2,3).

01:31:370 (5) - This seems to be a strong sound yet the spacing doesn't really show that- the distance between this and the previous sliders is comparable even though this seems to be a stronger, more important sound.

01:33:349 (5) - This circle doesn't land on a sound and I don't know whether it adds anything of value here. This sounds very similar to 01:32:411 (2,3) and here you used a 1/2 beat gap, not a 1/4 beat gap on a tick that's without sound.

01:33:453 (1,2) - I don't feel like this jump is justified- 2 isn't a strong sound, quite the contrary actually, so I feel like a slider would be a better fit here. Also, as the sound on the white tick (where you have circle 1) is a strong sound, I'd recommend reflecting that with large spacing instead.

01:34:703 (5,6) - A slider seems more appropriate here as these two sounds seem to be following a similar rhythm style to the previous two sliders ( 01:33:870 (3,4) ).

01:33:870 (3,4) - If you changed the four circles into two sliders as I suggested above, I would suggest creating sharp angles between these sliders as again (as was in 01:30:120 (1,2,3,4) ) the sounds seem sharp (being able to be represented by circles alone) so I feel like sharp angles would reflect that appropriately.

01:35:536 (2,3) - I feel like (3) would be better stacked on (2) rather than the slider. Also, a thing to note here is the fact here you used two circles whilst at 01:33:036 (4) you used a slider. Personally, I feel like the two circles are more representative as the sounds seem distinct, sharp.

01:37:099 (2) - this circle again isn't representative of the music as there's no sound here.

01:53:453 (4,5) - I feel that a slider would be more fitting here. Both the 'in' that's being sang and the bass guitar make a sound that
starts and ends between these two circles so I feel that dividing this sound between two circles isn't appropriate.

01:56:370 (5) - This seems to be a hard-hitting sounds, an important sound, so I feel like larger spacing between this circle and the previous
slider would be appropriate.

01:58:036 (4) - This again seems like a strong sound so larger spacing would be quite representative.

01:58:453 (1,2,3) - I feel like the (2) is the stronger sound here yet little spacing emphasis occurs- the space between (2) and (3) is actually bigger than between (1) and (2)! As such, I would suggest a larger distance between (1) and (2).

02:08:453 (1,2) - I think two sliders would be more appropriate here, especially considering the fact that two strong drum sounds occur
(one of which is mapped onto a slider tail).

02:09:703 (4,5) - I feel like the spacing emphasis should be placed upon (4), not (5), as (4) is the stronger sound.
02:18:036 (6,7) - I feel like the spacing emphasis should be placed upon (6), not (7), as (6) is the stronger sound.
02:21:370 (8,9) - These feel like they should be stacked- they represent very similar sounds.
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
One of the things that's sucked since I got unbanned was that a lot of good mappers have either stopped mapping or just quit entirely, so I'm glad that good mappers are still active.

Tryna see more linkin park tho B)

Extrication:
00:00:120 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - I've never ever been a fan of these long gapped beginnings.
02:28:036 (1) - You could probably adjust this so that there's not such an uneven overlap. If you HAVE to overlap, I'd rather have both (1) and (2) overlapping the sliderbody of (3) rather than having (1) really covered and (2) sort of in the open.
04:11:786 - lmao classic tbh. Since you already have a storyboard running, it may be helpful to have SOME sort of flash or SOMETHING to make this REALLY stand out, since this is SUCH an intense style change.
04:26:057 (1,1,1,1) - thumbs down on this one, try something else.
04:31:370 (1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1) - ^

I really love the creativity of this diff, especially the sliders, and I'm glad that your style has developed so much in the past few years.

Insane:
04:26:057 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1) - Thumbs down on this one too. You can do way more.

Hard:
00:00:120 - uhhh idk if unused green lines are still unrankable since I haven't given a shit since like 2014. Even if they aren't, it may be a good idea just to clean it up a little bit here lol.
04:26:161 (1,1,1,1) - :(
04:45:120 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is a little bit underwhelming considering how intense the previous part is. I know diff spread and all but you could probably elaborate on this a little more.

Normal:
04:25:953 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1) - Something like this would work REALLY well on all of the diffs.

Easy:
It works but it's very 1/1 which is like ehhhhh

Overall it's a wonderful mapset and the only qualm I have about it is just that spinner stuff. I remember sometime in like 2011-2012 people used to do that a lot and eventually it just kinda fell out of fashion because people were like "oh man spinning is really fun I guess??" plus I think some people had issues with reading it since they'd finish spinning and the other spinner would be like "a"
pw384
2,288 posts
Joined January 2012
Topic Starter
pw384

TheFlofper wrote:

hard
- 04:26:161 (1,1,1,1) - you should fill the spinners with sliders / have 2 spinners with one really short :arrow: redo those
- 04:14:286 (3,4,5,1) - this slider interaction is really intresting (i liked it)
Extrication
- 00:00:120 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - a really good intro but the other difficulties need intro too :arrow: well it is allowed and I think only the highest diff deserve the intro
- 00:11:786 (1,1) - those sliders really aren't necessary :arrow: I used them to suggest the crescendo violin
- 00:37:411 (1) - 00:43:870 (1) - this sliders should be split in 2 :arrow: I don't think so
- 01:28:245 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - having sliders overlap like this is not recommended :arrow: on purpose
- 03:03:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i don't like this spacing :arrow: on purpose
04:25:536 (1,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1) - this is too much spinners :arrow: redo those
thank you!!

Yahuri wrote:

NM from my q
Extrication
like ametrin's diff, theres a lot of overmapping :arrow: ok I guess? since the song itself is intensive and i want hitsounds to amplify it
00:47:620 (1) - got caught off guard here, this is significantly slower than the previous sliders in this section :arrow: should be fine I think
02:06:370 (1) - ^ using the same SV as 02:05:745 (3) should be fine, the music doesn't start buildup until this 02:06:995 (1) note :arrow: I still find a slower slider is better, but to make a compromise I change the velocity to 0.512 (= 0.8 x 0.8 x 0.8)

good luck
thank you!!!

CDFA wrote:

One of the things that's sucked since I got unbanned was that a lot of good mappers have either stopped mapping or just quit entirely, so I'm glad that good mappers are still active.

Tryna see more linkin park tho B) :arrow: sure of course

Extrication:
00:00:120 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - I've never ever been a fan of these long gapped beginnings.
02:28:036 (1) - You could probably adjust this so that there's not such an uneven overlap. If you HAVE to overlap, I'd rather have both (1) and (2) overlapping the sliderbody of (3) rather than having (1) really covered and (2) sort of in the open. :arrow: finally I realized it is not a good idea to have overlap here, so I move 1 a bit to get rid of the overlap
04:11:786 - lmao classic tbh. Since you already have a storyboard running, it may be helpful to have SOME sort of flash or SOMETHING to make this REALLY stand out, since this is SUCH an intense style change. :arrow: good idea but this time i'd like the storyboard to be simple. anyway I'll consider this
04:26:057 (1,1,1,1) - thumbs down on this one, try something else. :arrow: ok since too much criticism has been addressed on this, I changed them to sliderarts
04:31:370 (1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1) - ^

I really love the creativity of this diff, especially the sliders, and I'm glad that your style has developed so much in the past few years.

Hard:
00:00:120 - uhhh idk if unused green lines are still unrankable since I haven't given a shit since like 2014. Even if they aren't, it may be a good idea just to clean it up a little bit here lol. :arrow: it's rankable now but I cleaned it up anyway
04:26:161 (1,1,1,1) - :(
04:45:120 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is a little bit underwhelming considering how intense the previous part is. I know diff spread and all but you could probably elaborate on this a little more. :arrow: make it a bit harder

Normal:
04:25:953 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1) - Something like this would work REALLY well on all of the diffs.


Overall it's a wonderful mapset and the only qualm I have about it is just that spinner stuff. I remember sometime in like 2011-2012 people used to do that a lot and eventually it just kinda fell out of fashion because people were like "oh man spinning is really fun I guess??" plus I think some people had issues with reading it since they'd finish spinning and the other spinner would be like "a" :arrow: actually I neta'd mashley's what I've done lol
thank you cdfa!!!!
Ametrin
717 posts
Joined May 2012
Ametrin

Yahuri wrote:

NM from my q

Ametrin's Insane
00:51:682 - 00:58:349 - 01:05:015 - 01:11:682 - 01:31:682 - silence these slidertails theres a lot of them so i wont point out more my bad. will fix them all
00:49:703 (4) - 00:56:370 (4) - 00:59:703 (4) - 01:03:036 (5) - 01:06:370 (4) - change into 2 circles for guitar emphasis? i think it's not necessary... wanna make everything easy at beginning
00:57:203 (2,3) - should be a 1/2 slider imo, 3 isnt that strong of a note 2 has higher tune than 1&4 so that's the way i want to show ya... should be find imo
01:27:203 - 01:53:870 - 01:54:703 (3) - 01:54:911 (4,5) - add clap? cool
01:30:849 (3) - 01:37:099 (2) - 02:03:349 (6) - 02:04:182 (4) - 02:06:786 (1) - 02:08:140 (2) - overmapped, remove circles k
01:39:286 - add finish?k
01:40:745 (2) - 01:41:161 (2) - 02:06:995 (2) - remove claps? theres only kick drum here nope. these jumps deserve more feedback
01:57:620 (3,1) - fix stack k
03:14:703 - 03:29:703 - add clap k
03:43:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - add some hitsounds here, the drums are doing interesting stuff k
04:07:828 (7,1,2) - isnt this jump kinda big? nerfed somehow
04:28:245 - 04:33:245 - 04:34:911 - hitsound sounds really bad here, silence spinners
04:26:057 - 04:38:453 - about 12s work of spinning time, which is a lot. u could map it out instead wtf 384 changed his spinners to slider now i have to map extra 12 seconds ;w;
nothing really bothers me except overmapping and objects which should be silenced. everything else is fine.

good luck

Silence1020 wrote:

01:30:120 (1,2,3,4) - The circle (3) doesn't seem to be representative of the music as there's no sound on the blue tick so maybe remove it. What I don't like about these three sliders though, is their flow; to me, the heads of the sliders land on sounds that are so distinct/sharp-sounding that they could be represented by circles alone. Due to this, I feel like the angles between the sliders should be sharp instead of this circularly-flowing motion. (By sharp-sounding I mean that the sounds are more similar to a drum hit- short, distinct- than to a piano key press- a sound that continues or doesn't stop near instantaneously.) I feel like this has been done well here 01:56:786 (1,2,3). overmap thing has been wiped out

01:31:370 (5) - This seems to be a strong sound yet the spacing doesn't really show that- the distance between this and the previous sliders is comparable even though this seems to be a stronger, more important sound. ds here is actually larger than former

01:33:349 (5) - This circle doesn't land on a sound and I don't know whether it adds anything of value here. This sounds very similar to 01:32:411 (2,3) and here you used a 1/2 beat gap, not a 1/4 beat gap on a tick that's without sound. god these little overmap will kill me

01:33:453 (1,2) - I don't feel like this jump is justified- 2 isn't a strong sound, quite the contrary actually, so I feel like a slider would be a better fit here. Also, as the sound on the white tick (where you have circle 1) is a strong sound, I'd recommend reflecting that with large spacing instead. as long as 3 getting further, this should be ok

01:34:703 (5,6) - A slider seems more appropriate here as these two sounds seem to be following a similar rhythm style to the previous two sliders ( 01:33:870 (3,4) ). jumo here make more sense

01:33:870 (3,4) - If you changed the four circles into two sliders as I suggested above, I would suggest creating sharp angles between these sliders as again (as was in 01:30:120 (1,2,3,4) ) the sounds seem sharp (being able to be represented by circles alone) so I feel like sharp angles would reflect that appropriately. wilder angle is crying cuz nobody like them

01:35:536 (2,3) - I feel like (3) would be better stacked on (2) rather than the slider. Also, a thing to note here is the fact here you used two circles whilst at 01:33:036 (4) you used a slider. Personally, I feel like the two circles are more representative as the sounds seem distinct, sharp. i'll think about that

01:37:099 (2) - this circle again isn't representative of the music as there's no sound here. ummm

01:53:453 (4,5) - I feel that a slider would be more fitting here. Both the 'in' that's being sang and the bass guitar make a sound that
starts and ends between these two circles so I feel that dividing this sound between two circles isn't appropriate. previous are fine

01:56:370 (5) - This seems to be a hard-hitting sounds, an important sound, so I feel like larger spacing between this circle and the previous
slider would be appropriate. ds 2.0x isn't enough for you uhhh?

01:58:036 (4) - This again seems like a strong sound so larger spacing would be quite representative. you could treat 4&5 as a whole part then you'll see its fine

01:58:453 (1,2,3) - I feel like the (2) is the stronger sound here yet little spacing emphasis occurs- the space between (2) and (3) is actually bigger than between (1) and (2)! As such, I would suggest a larger distance between (1) and (2).

02:08:453 (1,2) - I think two sliders would be more appropriate here, especially considering the fact that two strong drum sounds occur
(one of which is mapped onto a slider tail). ^

02:09:703 (4,5) - I feel like the spacing emphasis should be placed upon (4), not (5), as (4) is the stronger sound. ^
02:18:036 (6,7) - I feel like the spacing emphasis should be placed upon (6), not (7), as (6) is the stronger sound. ^
02:21:370 (8,9) - These feel like they should be stacked- they represent very similar sounds. then you lowered intensity here

CDFA wrote:

One of the things that's sucked since I got unbanned was that a lot of good mappers have either stopped mapping or just quit entirely, so I'm glad that good mappers are still active.

Tryna see more linkin park tho B)

Insane:
04:26:057 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1) - Thumbs down on this one too. You can do way more. blame 384 plz

Overall it's a wonderful mapset and the only qualm I have about it is just that spinner stuff. I remember sometime in like 2011-2012 people used to do that a lot and eventually it just kinda fell out of fashion because people were like "oh man spinning is really fun I guess??" plus I think some people had issues with reading it since they'd finish spinning and the other spinner would be like "a"
I'm gonna remap some parts since this gd is kinda old lol
will update here when i finished
Ametrin
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Joined May 2012
Ametrin
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pw384
2,288 posts
Joined January 2012
Topic Starter
pw384
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fieryrage
osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II
1,404 posts
Joined November 2013
fieryrage
o/

general
  1. offset 130 seems to be better than the current offset rn, it sounds really delayed as it is
extrication
  1. 00:34:703 (2) - should be snapped to 1/4, 1/6 snapping makes it land too early
  2. 00:36:578 (1,2,3,4) - really nitpicky but this square is uneven in terms of spacing xd
  3. 00:43:453 (1) - nc isn't necessary here since the new rhythm starts 00:43:870 (1) - here anyways
  4. 01:01:370 (2,3) - this is really tiny in spacing compared to even stuff like 01:02:203 (2,3) - this despite being a lot stronger in the rhythm, buff spacing here?
  5. 01:41:265 - pretty noticeable triple here in the song, any particular reason you left it out?
  6. 03:15:120 (1,2,3) - spacing on this is a lot higher than any other triple in the song, i'd reduce this or revamp the pattern (goes for this section plus the next one that's similar)
  7. 03:23:453 (1) - make this two circles for the vocals?
  8. 03:38:245 - mapping the vocal here would make more sense since you map vocals in this section heavily
  9. 04:50:328 (1,2) - spacing on this is really low compared to the patterns before it and it being more intense, buff spacing here?
other insane
  • would relook at hitsounds here, the sliderends seem to be hitsounded differently than the top diff
  1. 01:11:370 (4,1) - spacing here and the parts before it are in contrast with the rest of the map, buff spacing here
  2. 01:40:120 (1) - unnecessary nc considering you nc the jumps after
  3. 04:25:120 (1) - beyond this point you should hitsound the claps and whatnot here like you did with the rest of the map
gl o/
pw384
2,288 posts
Joined January 2012
Topic Starter
pw384

fieryrage wrote:

o/

general
  1. offset 130 seems to be better than the current offset rn, it sounds really delayed as it is :arrow: yah i'll try to get some more opinions on it since 130 is too late I think
extrication
  1. 00:34:703 (2) - should be snapped to 1/4, 1/6 snapping makes it land too early :arrow: yes
  2. 00:36:578 (1,2,3,4) - really nitpicky but this square is uneven in terms of spacing xd :arrow: lol
  3. 00:43:453 (1) - nc isn't necessary here since the new rhythm starts 00:43:870 (1) - here anyways :arrow: make sense
  4. 01:01:370 (2,3) - this is really tiny in spacing compared to even stuff like 01:02:203 (2,3) - this despite being a lot stronger in the rhythm, buff spacing here? :arrow: ahh yeah I forgot about that. fixed
  5. 01:41:265 - pretty noticeable triple here in the song, any particular reason you left it out? :arrow: i'd emphasize the quaver rhythm here so following triplets here weakens the atmosphere
  6. 03:15:120 (1,2,3) - spacing on this is a lot higher than any other triple in the song, i'd reduce this or revamp the pattern (goes for this section plus the next one that's similar) :arrow: right, fixed
  7. 03:23:453 (1) - make this two circles for the vocals? :arrow: hmm it would break the pattern
  8. 03:38:245 - mapping the vocal here would make more sense since you map vocals in this section heavily :arrow: make sense
  9. 04:50:328 (1,2) - spacing on this is really low compared to the patterns before it and it being more intense, buff spacing here? :arrow: well the spacing of the last 3 circle-slider tuples is monotonically increasing
gl o/
thank you so much for modding!!! :D
dsco
287 posts
Joined April 2014
dsco
you have a duplicated osb file (Nightwish - Escapist (384059043).osb) that you need to delete
you cannot have silent hitnormals (soft-hitnormal.wav) you must manually change the volume of slider tails if you wish to silence them, and they cannot be perfectly silent, 5% is the minimum. for difficulties below hard you should not go to 5% anyways, as removing feedback for new players is not a good idea. examples of where this occurs and is 100% unrankable: 01:30:120 (1,2,3,4) - in the hard or 02:45:120 (1,2,1,2) - in the normal, and ESPECIALLY not at 04:15:849 (3) - in the hard where you click on something that is completely inaudible

tm's easy
could you add some light hitsounding during the verses? having no hitsounding is really dull. something as simple as whistles on 01:18:036 - 01:21:370 - etc.. would be a vast improvement
02:11:786 (1,2) - would be better as two 1/1 sliders imo, less monotonous and more energetic (also 02:18:453 (1,2) - etc..). otherwise you have same 2/1 slider + circle repeating through the entire chorus and verse which is pretty boring to play. it'd also help make the kiais more difficult

normal
01:18:661 (1,2) - stack 1/2 like you do elsewhere (see 01:45:327 (1,2) - too)
01:27:620 (2) - would resolve this section better ctrl+g imo
02:14:078 (2,3) - would make more sense to stack here (see 02:27:412 (2,3) - also) since you only use consecutive spaced 1/2 when it is circle -> slider
02:34:703 (4,1) - fix this stack by manually moving 02:35:953 (1,2) - down and right 4px so that 1 stacks on 4 and not 2. (you can do this with ctrl+arrow keys with grid snap off if you didn't know)
03:46:787 (1,2) - don't think this rhythm is great (see 04:00:120 (1,2) - also)
04:36:161 (2,3) - fix blanket

hard
01:14:078 (3,4) - this is confusing since you establish that when there is no circle in the middle, this is a 1/1 gap (01:10:120 (1,2) - 01:06:787 (1,2) - etc.)
01:15:953 (1) - remove NC
01:45:536 (2,3) - you don't stack these anywhere else so you shouldnt here
02:20:120 (1,2,3) - unstack 2 so this doesnt read like a triple since you stack triples in the kiai. putting it on 02:20:953 (4) - 's head would be cool (see 02:33:453 (1,2,3) - also)
02:45:120 (1,2,1,2) - 0.5x is a little drastic SV change for a hard diff. maybe instead of 0.5x to 0.75x to 1.0x, you could do 0.7x to 0.85x to 1.0x? (and change 02:58:453 (1,2,1,2) - these too)
03:13:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this could be nerfed some, this is a pretty big spike. stacking 2,3 and 5,6 might be ok. (03:26:786 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - )
03:38:453 (2,3) - you can make these look nicer (03:41:786 (1,3) - )
03:56:995 (2) - stands out as being much harder than the rest of the map, maybe if you move it to x:256 y:112 so its 1.0x spacing it would fit more (04:10:329 (2) - )
04:34:703 (4,1) - blanket slightly off

almetrin's insane
can you make the spacing for 3/4 slider -> slider consistent between 00:48:453 - 01:28:453 - these two sections? compare 00:51:370 (4,1) - and 01:31:370 (4,1) - etc..
02:03:349 (6,1) - if you're going to use this pattern i think its fine but you need to make it distinct in someway so it doesn't read like 1/2 which you stack in many places in the map, and you use it pretty rarely so it feels "random"
02:26:786 (1) - would be better as two circles imo
03:16:995 (2) - nazi move right 1px to fix stack (osu stacks objects on slider tails incorrectly sometimes)
03:43:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - fix octagon (just ctrl+shift+d) since its currently unbalanced and you can get the perfect symmetry this way
04:23:453 (1) - two circles would be more climactic
04:50:536 (1,1) - remove NCs to match 03:01:786 (1,2,3,4,5) -

extrication
00:14:703 (1) - i think the shape would look better flipped horizontally (same start placement though)
00:26:370 (1,1) - fix stack
00:31:578 (7) - don't think a slider is necessary here
00:36:995 (3,1) - fix stack
00:45:120 (2,3) - fix blanket
02:03:245 (5,1) - these shapes dont look great imo
02:06:370 (1) - 02:07:203 (2,3) - manual stack so 2 stacks on 1, not 3
02:20:536 (3) - make this a circle like 02:13:870 (3) - and 02:33:870 (3) - . i think its much more powerful this way.
02:10:120 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - using this many circles in a row works and is pretty powerful as pattern, but you have to use more circles or all circles 02:23:453 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - here or in other places, otherwise it doesn't feel very balanced and somewhat "random"
02:36:786 (1,3,4) - manual stack
02:41:370 (2) - ctrl+g fits much better
02:44:078 (3,4) - should be a jump like 02:40:745 (3,1) - (or both stacks)
03:23:453 (1) - could be cool to slider to stream with 1/2 so that it matches the vocal rhythm but has the same shape so the pattern is conserved like you said you wanted
03:38:453 (2,3) - again i dont think these look great
04:11:683 (8,1) - weird to start using slider streams so late into the map
EncoreW
833 posts
Joined June 2013
EncoreW

dsco wrote:

tm's easy
could you add some light hitsounding during the verses? having no hitsounding is really dull. something as simple as whistles on 01:18:036 - 01:21:370 - etc.. would be a vast improvement
02:11:786 (1,2) - would be better as two 1/1 sliders imo, less monotonous and more energetic (also 02:18:453 (1,2) - etc..). otherwise you have same 2/1 slider + circle repeating through the entire chorus and verse which is pretty boring to play. it'd also help make the kiais more difficult
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Ametrin
717 posts
Joined May 2012
Ametrin

dsco wrote:

almetrin's insane
can you make the spacing for 3/4 slider -> slider consistent between 00:48:453 - 01:28:453 - these two sections? compare 00:51:370 (4,1) - and 01:31:370 (4,1) - etc.. done
02:03:349 (6,1) - if you're going to use this pattern i think its fine but you need to make it distinct in someway so it doesn't read like 1/2 which you stack in many places in the map, and you use it pretty rarely so it feels "random" removed all these 1/4
02:26:786 (1) - would be better as two circles imo k
03:16:995 (2) - nazi move right 1px to fix stack (osu stacks objects on slider tails incorrectly sometimes) k (it's weird indeed lol)
03:43:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - fix octagon (just ctrl+shift+d) since its currently unbalanced and you can get the perfect symmetry this way k
04:23:453 (1) - two circles would be more climactic k
04:50:536 (1,1) - remove NCs to match 03:01:786 (1,2,3,4,5) - k
I should say "all fixed" directly
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pw384
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pw384

dsco wrote:

you have a duplicated osb file (Nightwish - Escapist (384059043).osb) that you need to delete :arrow: deleted
you cannot have silent hitnormals (soft-hitnormal.wav) you must manually change the volume of slider tails if you wish to silence them, and they cannot be perfectly silent, 5% is the minimum. for difficulties below hard you should not go to 5% anyways, as removing feedback for new players is not a good idea. examples of where this occurs and is 100% unrankable: 01:30:120 (1,2,3,4) - in the hard or 02:45:120 (1,2,1,2) - in the normal, and ESPECIALLY not at 04:15:849 (3) - in the hard where you click on something that is completely inaudible :arrow: fixed by using soft-normal.wav whose volume is 75% of the default one

normal
01:18:661 (1,2) - stack 1/2 like you do elsewhere (see 01:45:327 (1,2) - too) :arrow: fixed
01:27:620 (2) - would resolve this section better ctrl+g imo :arrow: I thought an outward slider is quite better taking the song's theme into consideration
02:14:078 (2,3) - would make more sense to stack here (see 02:27:412 (2,3) - also) since you only use consecutive spaced 1/2 when it is circle -> slider :arrow: you're right, and fixed
02:34:703 (4,1) - fix this stack by manually moving 02:35:953 (1,2) - down and right 4px so that 1 stacks on 4 and not 2. (you can do this with ctrl+arrow keys with grid snap off if you didn't know) :arrow: fixed
03:46:787 (1,2) - don't think this rhythm is great (see 04:00:120 (1,2) - also) :arrow: adopt another better rhythm
04:36:161 (2,3) - fix blanket :arrow: ok

hard
01:14:078 (3,4) - this is confusing since you establish that when there is no circle in the middle, this is a 1/1 gap (01:10:120 (1,2) - 01:06:787 (1,2) - etc.) :arrow: umm make sense anyway, fixed (though I like the original one. what if it is not a Hard!)
01:15:953 (1) - remove NC :arrow: fixed
01:45:536 (2,3) - you don't stack these anywhere else so you shouldnt here :arrow: fixed
02:20:120 (1,2,3) - unstack 2 so this doesnt read like a triple since you stack triples in the kiai. putting it on 02:20:953 (4) - 's head would be cool (see 02:33:453 (1,2,3) - also) :arrow: I altered it into another pattern
02:45:120 (1,2,1,2) - 0.5x is a little drastic SV change for a hard diff. maybe instead of 0.5x to 0.75x to 1.0x, you could do 0.7x to 0.85x to 1.0x? (and change 02:58:453 (1,2,1,2) - these too) :arrow: 0.7~0.85~1.0 is not apparent to be noticed I think, so I changed it into 0.64~0.8~1.0
03:13:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this could be nerfed some, this is a pretty big spike. stacking 2,3 and 5,6 might be ok. (03:26:786 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ) :arrow: nerfed
03:38:453 (2,3) - you can make these look nicer (03:41:786 (1,3) - ) :arrow: adjust a bit, though actually the shape is contorted on purpose to indicate the change in vocal
03:56:995 (2) - stands out as being much harder than the rest of the map, maybe if you move it to x:256 y:112 so its 1.0x spacing it would fit more (04:10:329 (2) - ) :arrow: great idea!!!!!!!
04:34:703 (4,1) - blanket slightly off :arrow: fixed

extrication
00:14:703 (1) - i think the shape would look better flipped horizontally (same start placement though) :arrow: I like the current one more
00:26:370 (1,1) - fix stack :arrow: fixed
00:31:578 (7) - don't think a slider is necessary here :arrow: should be okay I think? the sound on both tail and head are worth indicated imo
00:36:995 (3,1) - fix stack :arrow: fixed
00:45:120 (2,3) - fix blanket :arrow: fixed
02:03:245 (5,1) - these shapes dont look great imo :arrow: hmm I found no problem with them
02:06:370 (1) - 02:07:203 (2,3) - manual stack so 2 stacks on 1, not 3 :arrow: fixed
02:20:536 (3) - make this a circle like 02:13:870 (3) - and 02:33:870 (3) - . i think its much more powerful this way. :arrow: yes!
02:10:120 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - using this many circles in a row works and is pretty powerful as pattern, but you have to use more circles or all circles 02:23:453 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - here or in other places, otherwise it doesn't feel very balanced and somewhat "random" :arrow: remapped this section
02:36:786 (1,3,4) - manual stack :arrow: fixed
02:41:370 (2) - ctrl+g fits much better :arrow: great idea again!!!
02:44:078 (3,4) - should be a jump like 02:40:745 (3,1) - (or both stacks) :arrow: fixed
03:23:453 (1) - could be cool to slider to stream with 1/2 so that it matches the vocal rhythm but has the same shape so the pattern is conserved like you said you wanted :arrow: ok since many have pointed this out
03:38:453 (2,3) - again i dont think these look great :arrow: done on purpose as mentioned above
04:11:683 (8,1) - weird to start using slider streams so late into the map :arrow: this section features stronger violin and is different from other choruses to the degree of emotion etc. thus I used such patterns only here to indicate this
really helpful mod!!! thank you very much

edit: update all diffs
dsco
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02:13:453 (1) - remove NC on easy and i can bubble! :D (probably don't need to ask EncoreW since he doesn't NC this elsewhere but yeah)
Zero__wind
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quick stuff before bubled
how about hiding the black bar (for lyrics) when there's no vocal? it currently looks quite unpleasant during the interludes

这年代没多少图值得射几个星了 ☆
pw384
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fixed both issues mentioned above, and thank you zero_wind for your generous stars!
dsco
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thanks for mention on storyboard bar ^

bubbled!
pw384
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<3

also thank you all for your support!
Retalyx
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I admit i enjoyed it, but i'm too noobish to finish last difficulty :D
Voli
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Extrication
  1. 01:13:453 (1,2,3,4) - move these a bit closer to each other please, it looks too much like a 1/2 atm and causes easy breaks.
  2. 04:31:161 - missing note here i think
  3. 04:37:203 (1) - , 04:30:120 (1) - , 04:35:120 (1) - strong hitsounds on the sliderends!!
can i qualify? rly cool mapset and awesome song choice!
pw384
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Voli wrote:

Extrication
  1. 01:13:453 (1,2,3,4) - move these a bit closer to each other please, it looks too much like a 1/2 atm and causes easy breaks. :arrow: yeah, fixed!
  2. 04:31:161 - missing note here i think :arrow: I follow vocal here
  3. 04:37:203 (1) - , 04:30:120 (1) - , 04:35:120 (1) - strong hitsounds on the sliderends!! :arrow: no need for the first two I think. Add claps on 04:35:120's end
can i qualify? rly cool mapset and awesome song choice!
of course!!! thank you in advance!!!
mancuso_JM_
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Hi there! I'm a bit late due the bubbled but I'd like to check it anyway. Modding from my queue.. such a long time we don't see man c:


[Extrication]

  1. 00:00:120 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 00:05:953 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - In both patterns, I would add some whistle at least, they sound really empty without anyone and after all you're following the same sound you followed in 00:17:620 (1,2,3,4,5) - for example, I know there are less instrumental but you're basically follow the same instrument. To make it a bit different due the quite section you can maybe add whistles in the following objects: 00:00:328 (2,3) - / 00:01:578 (1,2) - / 00:06:162 (2,3) - / 00:07:411 (1,2) - . You can reduce a bit the volume if you think they sound loud.
  2. 00:30:745 (x) - I feel a note here pretty necessary, you followed the same sound in 00:33:661 (6) - for example and I don't see a reason to don't follow it here. Make sure to use a similar spacing that you used in the pattern mentioned.
  3. 01:13:245 (4,1,2,3,4) - The spacing between 01:13:245 (4,1) - can be higher here due the change in the music, you can make a great spacing increasing as you did in the two previous combo patterns. In addition, I think the spacing between (1,2,3,4) is a bit excessive, especially because there isn't a really high pitch that justify that. In general, I recommend you to increase the spacing between (4,1) and reduce it in the stream.
  4. 01:21:370 - 01:24:703 - 01:44:703 - 01:48:036 (x) - A cymbal sounds appears in all these points, so I find it interesting to add notes there because in some way they are following the instrumental that you pretended to follow in both sections. What do you think?
  5. 01:28:453 ~ 01:41:786 - Why did you decided to don't use any 3/4 in this section except for the common ones such as 01:28:453 (1,2) - ? I mean, in all this section: 00:48:453 ~ 01:11:786 - you decided to use other varities of 3/4 sliders such as 00:51:370 (2,1) - and rhythmically those sections are the same. If you like this idea, would be better to implement it in both sections, if not just remove it but would be better to be consistent in this aspect.
  6. 02:18:036 (6) - There is no need to make this a 3/4 slider. You're losing a great opportunity to follow vocals in 02:18:245 - at least with a slider end. This phrase is always singed in 1/2.
  7. 02:26:369 (3,4) - Definitely (4) is completely unnecesary here, there is no need to emphasize this beat with active mapping. I can understand a bit more if you want to extend (3) in 1/4 to follow the long vocal section ("Reeeeality") and start with the active mapping afterwards, but I would really prefer to don't see (4) here.
  8. 02:31:370 (5) - Once again, you're losing a good oportunity to follow vocals in 02:31:578 - as I mentioned you in 02:18:036 (6) - . Try reducing this slider in 1/2 please.
  9. 03:23:453 (1,2) - Increase the spacing between these objects to emphasize "Paradise Seeker" that definitely sounds much higher than other sections.
  11. 03:29:286 (4,5) - Try to emphasize rhythm in a better way please. The note (5) doesn't play a good role here, it's completely different if you compare that with 03:28:765 (2) - for example. Make sure to remove (5), if you want a beat there just extend (4) in 1/4 please.
  12. 03:46:265 (6) - This note give me more information that I need listening to the song. Just remove it and you'll notice how good is this song, if you want you can increase the spacing between the sliders in this section.
  13. 03:47:932 (x) - You can add a note here to emphasize "That's" in vocals, you usually used a beat there.
  14. 04:11:786 ~ 04:24:703 - Why did you mapped this great song in this way? Seriously, I love this song but I didn't enjoy this section. I can understand patterns like 04:13:453 (1,2,3,4) - and similar ones in general because the music let you use them, but other rhytmical patterns sounds pretty much excessive, the music doesn't represent that. You don't need to add objects without sense to make a difficulty more difficult. I could give you some suggestions here if you want, but I'd like to listen your opinions, you can maybe make some changes by yourself here and there.
  15. 04:45:120 (1,2) - I didn't understand this 3/4 pattern a lot, the music is pretty similar in all this section and using a 3/4 for variety is not the best form imo.
  16. 04:48:245 (2,1) - You can maybe use some variety here due a new sound in the music, you can maybe use a 3/4 slider + a note here or maybe a single note in 04:48:349 (3) - . This section become quite repetitive and using similar patterns at the end of the map will never produce the best effect imo.
- I have to say that technically this is rankable (seeing at today standards), in addition in term of composition the difficulty works but I don't agree with a lot of rhythms you decided to use. I don't find sense in adding objects in 1/4 ticks when they don't follow the song, why are you doing that? I'm looking for a lot of answers in this difficulty.

[Hard]

  1. 04:15:849 (3) - All notes in 1/4 are audible in this difficulty, except this one. If you want to place it there, just make it audible or remove this object, there is no need to have active mapping in a note that it's almost inaudible during the gameplay.
- Just that.. Cool difficulty.

In general, the set is cool except for the top difficulty. You have great ideas here and there, but some of them are not applied in the best way.
I'm looking for some answer in this difficulty, if you consider this stuff you can call me back for a rebubble (so Voli can qualify it afterwards).
See you then!
Voli
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Voli
^ just to be clear, is this a pop/veto or? because you didn't specify it in your post nor used a bubble pop icon
pw384
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(updating)

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

Hi there! I'm a bit late due the bubbled but I'd like to check it anyway. Modding from my queue.. such a long time we don't see man c:


[Extrication]

  1. 00:00:120 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 00:05:953 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - In both patterns, I would add some whistle at least, they sound really empty without anyone and after all you're following the same sound you followed in 00:17:620 (1,2,3,4,5) - for example, I know there are less instrumental but you're basically follow the same instrument. To make it a bit different due the quite section you can maybe add whistles in the following objects: 00:00:328 (2,3) - / 00:01:578 (1,2) - / 00:06:162 (2,3) - / 00:07:411 (1,2) - . You can reduce a bit the volume if you think they sound loud.
  2. 00:30:745 (x) - I feel a note here pretty necessary, you followed the same sound in 00:33:661 (6) - for example and I don't see a reason to don't follow it here. Make sure to use a similar spacing that you used in the pattern mentioned. :arrow: well i used a slider tail to indicate the beat, since it is not as strong as the latter one
  3. 01:13:245 (4,1,2,3,4) - The spacing between 01:13:245 (4,1) - can be higher here due the change in the music, you can make a great spacing increasing as you did in the two previous combo patterns. In addition, I think the spacing between (1,2,3,4) is a bit excessive, especially because there isn't a really high pitch that justify that. In general, I recommend you to increase the spacing between (4,1) and reduce it in the stream.
  4. 01:21:370 - 01:24:703 - 01:44:703 - 01:48:036 (x) - A cymbal sounds appears in all these points, so I find it interesting to add notes there because in some way they are following the instrumental that you pretended to follow in both sections. What do you think? :arrow: In this section I purely arranged the rhythm to follow bass only, and I think it is cool to let players concentrate on bass in calm sections, thus I gave up following cymbols since the rhythm could be a bit weird from my perspective
  5. 01:28:453 ~ 01:41:786 - Why did you decided to don't use any 3/4 in this section except for the common ones such as 01:28:453 (1,2) - ? I mean, in all this section: 00:48:453 ~ 01:11:786 - you decided to use other varities of 3/4 sliders such as 00:51:370 (2,1) - and rhythmically those sections are the same. If you like this idea, would be better to implement it in both sections, if not just remove it but would be better to be consistent in this aspect. :arrow: hmm I found the two sections functioning differently on scale of the whole song. the section 00:48:453 - is the intro to metal, while 01:28:453 - is the joint of two verse, and owing to this I arranged the second section differently. Notes like 01:30:120 (1,2,1,2) - etc ensures explicit and constant quaver rhythm which can set more tension for players to enjoy as the song goes into darker night.
  6. 02:18:036 (6) - There is no need to make this a 3/4 slider. You're losing a great opportunity to follow vocals in 02:18:245 - at least with a slider end. This phrase is always singed in 1/2.
  7. 02:26:369 (3,4) - Definitely (4) is completely unnecesary here, there is no need to emphasize this beat with active mapping. I can understand a bit more if you want to extend (3) in 1/4 to follow the long vocal section ("Reeeeality") and start with the active mapping afterwards, but I would really prefer to don't see (4) here.
  8. 02:31:370 (5) - Once again, you're losing a good oportunity to follow vocals in 02:31:578 - as I mentioned you in 02:18:036 (6) - . Try reducing this slider in 1/2 please.
  9. 03:23:453 (1,2) - Increase the spacing between these objects to emphasize "Paradise Seeker" that definitely sounds much higher than other sections.
  11. 03:29:286 (4,5) - Try to emphasize rhythm in a better way please. The note (5) doesn't play a good role here, it's completely different if you compare that with 03:28:765 (2) - for example. Make sure to remove (5), if you want a beat there just extend (4) in 1/4 please.
  12. 03:46:265 (6) - This note give me more information that I need listening to the song. Just remove it and you'll notice how good is this song, if you want you can increase the spacing between the sliders in this section.
  13. 03:47:932 (x) - You can add a note here to emphasize "That's" in vocals, you usually used a beat there. :arrow: it will break the pattern here i think
  14. 04:11:786 ~ 04:24:703 - Why did you mapped this great song in this way? Seriously, I love this song but I didn't enjoy this section. I can understand patterns like 04:13:453 (1,2,3,4) - and similar ones in general because the music let you use them, but other rhytmical patterns sounds pretty much excessive, the music doesn't represent that. You don't need to add objects without sense to make a difficulty more difficult. I could give you some suggestions here if you want, but I'd like to listen your opinions, you can maybe make some changes by yourself here and there.
    :arrow: the initial intention is to indicate the difference of this section, which features strong violins etc; also, i'd like to see this part emotionally impressive so i mapped it in a denser way. but since you point out that some notes poorly coordinate with the song itself, i checked through this section and deleted some notes that i also think useless. (i am glad you understand 04:13:453 (1,2,3,4) - , which is the most pattern i want for this song!!)
  15. 04:45:120 (1,2) - I didn't understand this 3/4 pattern a lot, the music is pretty similar in all this section and using a 3/4 for variety is not the best form imo.
  16. 04:48:245 (2,1) - You can maybe use some variety here due a new sound in the music, you can maybe use a 3/4 slider + a note here or maybe a single note in 04:48:349 (3) - . This section become quite repetitive and using similar patterns at the end of the map will never produce the best effect imo. :arrow: quite difficult to find a better way to arrange the rhythm while taking many factors into consideration (3/4s don't work well to me for this section), thus i suppose that 1/2s are the best choice for me. and to produce impressive effect I've already employed things like 04:49:911 (1,1,2,1,2) - which involves increasing spacing and a nice slider indicating "extrication" (outward flow, wing-shaped, high speed). so should be fine to keep as it is now i think
- I have to say that technically this is rankable (seeing at today standards), in addition in term of composition the difficulty works but I don't agree with a lot of rhythms you decided to use. I don't find sense in adding objects in 1/4 ticks when they don't follow the song, why are you doing that? I'm looking for a lot of answers in this difficulty.

[Hard]

  1. 04:15:849 (3) - All notes in 1/4 are audible in this difficulty, except this one. If you want to place it there, just make it audible or remove this object, there is no need to have active mapping in a note that it's almost inaudible during the gameplay.
- Just that.. Cool difficulty.

In general, the set is cool except for the top difficulty. You have great ideas here and there, but some of them are not applied in the best way.
I'm looking for some answer in this difficulty, if you consider this stuff you can call me back for a rebubble (so Voli can qualify it afterwards).
See you then!
no reply == fixed!
thank you for bringing up excellent suggestions!
mancuso_JM_
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Voli wrote:

^ just to be clear, is this a pop/veto or? because you didn't specify it in your post nor used a bubble pop icon
I forgot to state that in my post :facepalm: . I was going to use the bubble pop icon, but since the map was self-popped I completely forgot to state that in my post.

Yeah.. Consider this set popped for now, that's why I said that I'd like to rebubble it myself before the qualify (so you can qualify it, if you feel so).

I'll be back later for a recheck or a bubble icon if I don't find anything else wrong. I suppose you contacted me via PM because you've updated your map but sadly I was afk.

[]

Edit: Things work much better now, let me discuss a little bit about a section in my mod.

pw384 wrote:

  1. 01:28:453 ~ 01:41:786 - Why did you decided to don't use any 3/4 in this section except for the common ones such as 01:28:453 (1,2) - ? I mean, in all this section: 00:48:453 ~ 01:11:786 - you decided to use other varities of 3/4 sliders such as 00:51:370 (2,1) - and rhythmically those sections are the same. If you like this idea, would be better to implement it in both sections, if not just remove it but would be better to be consistent in this aspect.
:arrow: hmm I found the two sections functioning differently on scale of the whole song. the section 00:48:453 - is the intro to metal, while 01:28:453 - is the joint of two verse, and owing to this I arranged the second section differently. Notes like 01:30:120 (1,2,1,2) - etc ensures explicit and constant quaver rhythm which can set more tension for players to enjoy as the song goes into darker night.
I find the spacing mapped in both sections pretty similar, so your decission in this section looks more inconsistent than innovative, the only thing you decided to change are those 3/4 sliders. I think you don't have to focus that much in previous sections, just in both sections that you're trying to compare and you'll notice the emphasis is the same. Of course, that you can make it a bit harder than before by increasing some spaces here and there to show players more interesting patterns.

Taking the same example that you gave me, 00:50:120 (1,2,1,2,1) - vs. 01:30:120 (1,2,1,2,1) - , yeah the only difference here are the 3/4 in the first pattern (compressed) between (2,1) and the jump between (2,1) in the second one, but.. How about the rest of the pattern? They are using similar spacing, you're not setting tension in players that always play that kind of difficulties, because patterns are basically the same, in addition you used compressed 3/4 in all the second section as you did in the first one.

After saying that, my recommendation here is to use 3/4 in the following sliders: 01:31:369 (2) - & 01:38:036 (2) - and you can maybe use some little jumps between these 3/4 and the following objects if you want to make the difficulty more interesting and make this more enjoyable.

I won't bother much more about these sections, but I want to have everything clear before to move this map on.

[]

As an additional thing, I'd like to know why Ametrin's Insane is using different combo colours. I know it's a guest difficulty, but the background and the storyboard are the same in all difficulties and as you can notice tm's Easy is using the same combo colours as you even if it's a guest difficulty, so would be better to make that consistent.

[]

That's should be all. I have to say that this section 04:11:786 ~ 04:24:703 - works much better now, good job! c:
Reply to these points and feel free to contact me (via forum PM or in-game PM, as you want)
pw384
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pw384
should be fine this time, since I made the two mentioned into 3/4 sliders (and they work well in another way). also the combo color is unified, thank you!
also I fixed a missing NC on 01:29:286 -
Ametrin
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Ametrin
about color: I can't recall the reason too lul
Prof.384 can u fix it for me plz

Edit: uh already fixed
mancuso_JM_
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Everything works much better here, definitely main problems were fixed.

Enjoy my first nomination in v1 after 4 years!

Rebubbled!
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gimme a poke when you want the <3 (in irc or inbox)
pw384
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a post avoiding double-posting
↓ incoming qualification post i guess :D
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