sakuraburst - forest of the spirits · forum

Shiirn

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2017-04-06T14:58:57+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, February 26, 2018 at 9:58:48 AM

Artist: sakuraburst
Title: forest of the spirits
Tags: blood orange mikasaserket lmt net0 mun mecha dubstep dance Jakomo73 electronic ambient glitch noise pretty soundfont York
BPM: 186
Filesize: 8520kb
Play Time: 03:26
Difficulties Available:

beckoning (5.31 stars, 483 notes)
lmt's hard (3.21 stars, 296 notes)
mika's normal (2.32 stars, 186 notes)
mir's insane (4.41 stars, 435 notes)
mun's hard (3.5 stars, 364 notes)
net0's easy (1.81 stars, 168 notes)

Download: sakuraburst - forest of the spirits
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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「Off to the west of town, there lay a grove of trees.
A small thing, but pitchest of black nay more than a few steps in.
The curiosity of children quickly taught the town;
do not listen to the whispers coming from that fog. 」

Last edited by Shiirn 2018-02-26T17:59:06+00:00, edited 33 times in total.

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Ultima Fox 2017-04-07T00:02:18+00:00

holy

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,251 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-04-08T03:51:32+00:00

I haven't forgotten :0)

MikasaSerket

520 posts

Joined December 2014

MikasaSerket 2017-04-25T03:38:38+00:00

https://puu.sh/vvlhG/852bc2b69f.osu
yeet

Juris

46 posts

Joined December 2014

Juris 2017-04-28T01:40:23+00:00

mir's insane

SPOILER

01:41:673 - missing a beat, optional
02:24:500 - bpm is munted from here, not even sure if the map is fcable, adjust bpm or slider lengths
cant really mod the half of the map because of the timings, if this is intentional then say so

Check AiMod also

aetwuns

138 posts

Joined July 2016

aetwuns 2017-04-28T02:57:14+00:00

Calling this mod light would be an understatement. Also how do i mod wubs lul

[mun's hard]

I have very serious doubts that this will be readable by any player playing at a 3.6* level, particularly on patterns like 01:25:302 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - and 01:35:625 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this combined with reverse sliders going directly against their implied movement, such as 01:35:625 (2) - and 01:58:850 (2) - will almost certainly be too much to read for the less experienced player

[mir's insane]

02:01:350 - Seems like you goofed up your timing points

[beckoning]

01:32:721 (2,1,1) - some weird blanketing going on over here

Mun

469 posts

Joined July 2015

Mun 2017-04-30T00:45:38+00:00

Smolboi wrote:
[mun's hard]
I have very serious doubts that this will be readable by any player playing at a 3.6* level, particularly on patterns like 01:25:302 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - and 01:35:625 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this combined with reverse sliders going directly against their implied movement, such as 01:35:625 (2) - and 01:58:850 (2) - will almost certainly be too much to read for the less experienced player

The feedback I've received when showing this map to players around 200k has largely been that it reads well and isn't too hard. The only people expressing concern about how hard it is are the people that are well above its level, implying a gross underestimation of the abilities of people who play such maps. Everything is set up with highly conspicuous overlap, and the only repeats are on the tops of stacks.

Save these concerns for the Normal diff, hard-diff players are much better than you realize. This provides a fun, fair challenge.

Sidetail

1,268 posts

Joined October 2012

Sidetail 2017-05-04T01:57:16+00:00

i usually never mod something like this so this mod would prolly be crude

[general]
i assume sb is not finished so ill skip that

[easy]
apparently kiai isn't snapped, check aimod
remove extra greenlines (leave the first line and remove the rest of lines with same attributes):

02:49:496 (5) - and 03:10:141 (4) - doesn't fit very well after having 02:59:979 (5) - and 03:20:625 (5) - . These play much nicely and rhythm wise as well. I would stick to latter one.

[normal]
same as above diff, check timing

not sure why you need this many bookmarks.. (just increases file size for no reason)
why do these sound different 01:23:528 (2,3) - and 01:26:109 (2,3) - . they are the same exact parts in the song. After looking further into it, perhaps you didn't make the first one soft hs

[hard]
remove extra greenlines (leave the first line and remove the rest of lines with same attributes):

these places sound the same: 01:47:076 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:56:592 (3,4,5) - but they have different implementation
01:47:399 (4,5) - and 01:57:399 (1,2) - same reason as well ^
rest of the overlaps throughout the map is nice, but this particular one doesn't look nice 01:51:109 (2) -
not sure why you didn't put circle at 01:56:673 . You put those triples before and after, but not here
kiai is good.

[insane]
02:25:463 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - this is confusing. (testplayed)

[beckoning]
01:27:238 (1,2) - , 01:29:818 (4,5) - etc.. I am not sure why you didn't stick with like: 01:24:818 (1,2) - . To explain, have a look at 01:27:238 (1,2) - . It feels much better if 01:27:399 is made clickable instead of ending with sliderend
01:47:399 (4,5,6) - if you're trying to emphasize the noise in the song, this is 1/8..
01:57:721 (5,6,7) - ^
not sure why 01:57:238 (1,2) - and 01:46:915 (8,1) - has different NC location

ran out of time, hope that helps!

Mun

469 posts

Joined July 2015

Mun 2017-05-04T04:14:02+00:00

BetaStar wrote:
i usually never mod something like this so this mod would prolly be crude
[hard]
remove extra greenlines (leave the first line and remove the rest of lines with same attributes):
Done.
these places sound the same: 01:47:076 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:56:592 (3,4,5) - but they have different implementation No, they really don't
01:47:399 (4,5) - and 01:57:399 (1,2) - same reason as well ^ Are we listening to the same song?
rest of the overlaps throughout the map is nice, but this particular one doesn't look nice 01:51:109 (2) - Fixed.
not sure why you didn't put circle at 01:56:673 . You put those triples before and after, but not here but i did?? what version of this map do you have
kiai is good. thank you!

ran out of time, hope that helps!

Thank you!

rank forrest rank

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 82238
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
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TitleUnicode:forest of the spirits
Artist:sakuraburst
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Version:mun's hard
Source:
Tags:
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Net0

Beatmap Nominator

1,273 posts

Joined October 2014

Net0 2017-05-04T14:10:48+00:00

BetaStar wrote:
[easy]
apparently kiai isn't snapped, check aimod
remove extra greenlines (leave the first line and remove the rest of lines with same attributes):

I removed some greenlines, but some the ones here 03:20:625 (5) - ~03:20:625 (5) - I kept because of hitsound volume change.

02:49:496 (5) - and 03:10:141 (4) - doesn't fit very well after having 02:59:979 (5) - and 03:20:625 (5) - . These play much nicely and rhythm wise as well. I would stick to latter one.Even tho they play better in your opinion I really just used those for specific chorus parts. If I use them in all the previous ones they would look generic and not have the same effect as intended

update

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 82238
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
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[Metadata]
Title:forest of the spirits
TitleUnicode:forest of the spirits
Artist:sakuraburst
ArtistUnicode:sakuraburst
Creator:Shiirn
Version:net0's easy
Source:
Tags:
BeatmapID:1274764
BeatmapSetID:595796

[Difficulty]
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direday

188 posts

Joined February 2013

direday 2017-05-11T01:35:22+00:00

What a fun mapset!

General

Is it okay to have minute and a half unmapped intro? I can help with editing it to make it shorter.

beckoning

03:15:625 - green point is 1ms behind the grid for some reason
Leme be a bit of a nazi here - a lot of triangles are slightly imperfect. Here some I've found: 01:22:883 (3,4,1) - 01:26:431 (1,2,3,5) - 01:28:367 (1,2,3) - 01:30:141 (5,1,2) - 01:30:463 (2,3,4) - 01:58:850 (2,3,5) - 02:37:399 (1,1,2) - those are painfully close to being equilateral but not quite there. Blanket: 02:00:463 (5,7) - 03:24:818 (1,1) -
You emphasize long and loud notes here 01:24:818 (1,2) with spacing - yet same two sounds here 01:27:238 (1,2) - are represented by slider end and circle. I'd at least made the first sound clickable. Perhaps you've meant to start slider here?
01:29:818 (4) - I don't think such spacing is justified for fairly ordinary sound. It's basicaly the same as 01:28:850 (4) - and it doesn't have any drums there either.
01:48:528 (2,3,4) - looks messy. Try moving 01:48:850 (4) - to 261:222 to have equal space inbetween circles and following slider.
01:53:205 (2) - this shape doesn't suit the style of this map imo.
02:54:979 (2) - it need 1 more anchor to make it smooth.
Can't comment on kiai since it is messy on purpose and thus is completly subjective.

mir's insane

Tbh I like your rythm and emphasis choices for the first part of the map the most.

01:28:528 (4) - I think it is overemphasized a bit. It's not that intense for it to have almost the same jump as 01:25:786 (3) - .
01:30:947 (3) - and this one should be much more emphasized: 01:29:979 (5) - pretty much the same intensity as this and has completely different spacing.
02:32:883 (3) - add spacing too - basicaly the same sound as 02:29:334 (6,7) -
02:34:496 (6) - ^ perhaps move it to the start of 02:34:818 (1) -
02:59:415 (2) - why this hi-hat is skipped here? You've mapped them before
03:09:738 (2) - same here but this one is at least covered by slider

mun's hard

Not sure if hards are allowed to have so much ovelaps. Very fun map for it's SR anyway!

First off - nazi stuff: almost equilateral but not quite triangles: 01:29:657 (3,4,5) - 01:30:141 (5,1,2) - 01:31:270 (1,1,2) - 01:46:431 (3,4,5) - this one is really noticable in-game 01:48:367 (1,2,3) . No such problems in kiai. Guess 'cos it's more linear.
01:59:979 (1,2,4) - Imo it doesn't fit the map that the slider barely touches the circles. You don't have this kind of visuals anywhere else.
02:51:915 (2) - rotate several degrees CCW to fit better with 02:52:399 (4) -

Haven't found anything else.

Looked through normal and easy - nice rythm choices. Not much to comment onto except perhaps 2-3 blankets.

Hope that helped!

I'd really appereciate if you give me some feedback/mod on my map t/526635. Genre of the music is trance/electronica so you might like it.

Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2017-05-11T02:10:50+00:00

direday wrote:
What a fun mapset!

General
Is it okay to have minute and a half unmapped intro? I can help with editing it to make it shorter. It's actually fine. Only the outro matters, weirdly enough.

beckoning
03:15:625 - green point is 1ms behind the grid for some reason ffs i guess its worth fixing lol
Leme be a bit of a nazi here - a lot of triangles are slightly imperfect. Here some I've found: 01:22:883 (3,4,1) - 01:26:431 (1,2,3,5) - 01:28:367 (1,2,3) - 01:30:141 (5,1,2) - 01:30:463 (2,3,4) - 01:58:850 (2,3,5) - 02:37:399 (1,1,2) - those are painfully close to being equilateral but not quite there. Blanket: 02:00:463 (5,7) - 03:24:818 (1,1) - A lot of them weren't meant to be perfect, due to the nature of the spacing being based off intentionally being off a "grid" on purpose, but I did fix some erroneous ones.
You emphasize long and loud notes here 01:24:818 (1,2) with spacing - yet same two sounds here 01:27:238 (1,2) - are represented by slider end and circle. I'd at least made the first sound clickable. Perhaps you've meant to start slider here? This is due to how I've chosen to interpret the combined notes and instruments in this section. The first has a fairly bog-standard pattern that separates the 1,2 from the other portion's 1,2,3,4,56 , while the second one's pitch combination ties the previous note in the previous combo to the pair, turning a two-note combo into a three-note one, or "12345 123" instead of "123456 12". To help emphasize this change, I replaced "6" point in the first combo, which was a slider ending, with a slider start. This is inconsistent with the basic rhythm, but so are the changes in pitch.
01:29:818 (4) - I don't think such spacing is justified for fairly ordinary sound. It's basicaly the same as 01:28:850 (4) - and it doesn't have any drums there either. This is largely due to how the spacing of the strong claps come out, the actual spacing isn't all that difficult due to the circle->slider nature.
01:48:528 (2,3,4) - looks messy. Try moving 01:48:850 (4) - to 261:222 to have equal space inbetween circles and following slider. did a thing
01:53:205 (2) - this shape doesn't suit the style of this map imo. that's the point.
02:54:979 (2) - it need 1 more anchor to make it smooth.
Can't comment on kiai since it is messy on purpose and thus is completly subjective.

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,152 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-05-11T22:39:26+00:00

direday wrote:
What a fun mapset!

[mir's insane]Tbh I like your rythm and emphasis choices for the first part of the map the most.
01:28:528 (4) - I think it is overemphasized a bit. It's not that intense for it to have almost the same jump as 01:25:786 (3) - .
01:30:947 (3) - and this one should be much more emphasized: 01:29:979 (5) - pretty much the same intensity as this and has completely different spacing.
02:32:883 (3) - add spacing too - basicaly the same sound as 02:29:334 (6,7) -
02:34:496 (6) - ^ perhaps move it to the start of 02:34:818 (1) -
02:59:415 (2) - why this hi-hat is skipped here? You've mapped them before - inconsistent with the next one for rhythmical reasons, changed. not really following the hihat
03:09:738 (2) - same here but this one is at least covered by slider

Fixed everything else.

Mun

469 posts

Joined July 2015

Mun 2017-05-11T23:36:48+00:00

direday wrote:
What a fun mapset!

mun's hard
Not sure if hards are allowed to have so much ovelaps. Very fun map for it's SR anyway! It's readable to people who play hards, so I don't see why it'd be unrankable lol, but thanks a ton!
First off - nazi stuff: almost equilateral but not quite triangles: 01:29:657 (3,4,5) - 01:30:141 (5,1,2) - 01:31:270 (1,1,2) - 01:46:431 (3,4,5) - this one is really noticable in-game 01:48:367 (1,2,3) . No such problems in kiai. Guess 'cos it's more linear. None of these are meant to be equilateral or perfect triangles.
01:59:979 (1,2,4) - Imo it doesn't fit the map that the slider barely touches the circles. You don't have this kind of visuals anywhere else. Moved a little.
02:51:915 (2) - rotate several degrees CCW to fit better with 02:52:399 (4) - Not my intention to blanket that.

Haven't found anything else.

rank forest rank

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Halfslashed

Global Moderator

438 posts

Joined July 2014

Halfslashed 2017-06-04T20:10:35+00:00

[General]
Make "Easy" lowercase to fit the rest of your spread names.Actually, I suggest just changing the easy/normal to normal/advanced, since it's more reflective on the actual difficulty of the set.
Make sure to tag all of the GDers too. You can also tag the subgenres and the album "blood orange".

[net0's Easy]
01:22:560 (1,2,3,4) - Two things: The movement here is unintuitive for the lowest difficulty, as the player will follow the slider to the end, then jerk back to hit the next circle. I suggest using a more intuitive motion, like placing the circle in the path of the slider tail. This and this are two options, depending on whether or not you want a comfortable feeling or not. The other thing is that your rhythm seems to prioritize the drums rather than the melody, but then you skip prominent drums in favor of 2/1 gaps. If you want to map drums, I suggest something like this, applying similar logic for other kicks that are 1/2 apart with the slider.
01:26:431 (7,8) - To follow the logic of the above, this would be a 2/1 slider.
01:43:850 (2,3) - A rhythm like this would fit the melody better than what you have.
02:49:496 (5) - 03:10:141 (4) - I think a 1/2 slider is more fitting here due to the strong snare that the reverse currently lands on. It also sets up a nice 2/1 break for the player here.
02:51:592 (4,5,1) - Stuff like this not only has uncomfortable movement associated with it, but is also deliberately misleading, as the slider leads into 1 rather than 5, and also has equal visual distance to both 1 and 5. Spreading this pattern out more like this should make it easier to read.
02:59:334 (4,5) - 03:19:979 (3,4,5) - This rhythm should be consistent with whatever you decide to do at 02:49:012 (4,5).
03:11:592 (2,3,4,5) - Same issue as 02:51:592 (4,5,1).
03:25:786 (3) - I suggest using a circle here since the last strong sound is on the head of this slider, and the rest of the reverse takes away from it's impact.

[mika's normal]
01:22:560 (1) - Since you prioritize drums, try a 1/1 slider + circle so you can have the snare clickable.
01:24:173 (4) - I recommend using two circles 1/1 apart here instead. There isn't anything important on the tail of this reverse, and having it as a reverse takes away from it's impact.
01:25:141 (1,2,3,4) - This rhythm shouldn't be consistent with 01:22:560 (1,2,3,4) - since the song is doing something different. Try a rhythm that reflects the drums here, like this.
01:43:850 (2,3) - A rhythm like this would represent the melody you're following better.
02:27:721 (2,3,4) - This is a bit clustered, try spreading 2 and 4 out more visually, like you do at 02:30:302 (2,3,4).
02:49:657 (3) - 02:59:979 (3) - I recommend making these circles to create 2/1 gaps like what you do later on with stuff like 03:14:818 (4,1) - since I think it fits the drums quite well.

Much better than the last normal I modded from you, great job on the improvement!

[mun's hard]
01:24:818 (5) - I think using two circles here might work better, since you switched to a melody based rhythm and this shows it off well.
01:27:399 (5) - Same as the above, except I think you could use a different arrangement like a stack for emphasis here.
01:47:076 (1,2,3,4) - This rhythm is a difficulty spike, since you haven't introduced triples yet, but this requires a transition between 1/4 to 1/2. I recommend using a 1/4 reverse here instead, given that the blue tick isn't that strong. An alternative if you think that would be weak is to ctrl+g the rhythm at 01:47:238 (3,4).
01:49:012 (3) - I suggest two circles here to be consistent with 01:46:431 (3,4) -
02:24:496 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think it'd be neater if you evened out the visual distance here. As is, this looks a bit messy.
02:39:979 (1,2,1,2) - You could try changing these to circles instead to give 02:41:270 (1,2,1,2,3) - more of a contrast. It also fits the empty feeling that this measure has.
03:05:141 (3,4) - 4 isn't really that strong, so it doesn't really deserve the spacing that you're giving it here, nor does it deserve being clickable. You're better off changing this to a 1/2 slider and using a big jump to 03:05:463 (5).

[mir's insane]
01:22:560 (1,2) - According to what you do for the rest of these like at 01:25:141 (1,2) - , these should be stacked.
01:41:592 (7) - Cute.
02:54:173 (1,2,3,4,5) - My issue here is that 3 isn't really getting any emphasis. Try a pattern like this or something more tame to fit your tastes.
03:25:786 (1,1) - Could I interest you in being a bit edgier for some more emphasis? Something cool would be a jump like this.

Much better than anime.

[beckoning]
01:24:979 (2,1) - 01:34:334 (4,1) - I think it'd be cool to have this as an anti jump to be consistent with 01:27:560 (2,1) for that kick emphasis.

Nothing else to say here. Good luck!

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,152 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-06-07T13:14:09+00:00

Fixed all of Halfy's things.

https://puu.sh/wdnnz/489ee87414.osu

Net0

Beatmap Nominator

1,273 posts

Joined October 2014

Net0 2017-06-11T02:08:33+00:00

Halfslashed wrote:
[General]
Make "Easy" lowercase to fit the rest of your spread namesI did that but upload bugged it :S.Actually, I suggest just changing the easy/normal to normal/advanced, since it's more reflective on the actual difficulty of the set.
Make sure to tag all of the GDers too. You can also tag the subgenres and the album "blood orange".

[net0's Easy]
01:22:560 (1,2,3,4) - Two things: The movement here is unintuitive for the lowest difficulty, as the player will follow the slider to the end, then jerk back to hit the next circle.not true, new players don't assume slider ends as even the new rc research showed. They tend to skip sliders ends and hush to next object, but that also depends. Whatever the case is this assumption is not valid as for the movement is unatural I suggest using a more intuitive motion, like placing the circle in the path of the slider tail. This and this are two options, depending on whether or not you want a comfortable feeling or not. The other thing is that your rhythm seems to prioritize the drums rather than the melody, but then you skip prominent drums in favor of 2/1 gaps.I didn't main drum beats are mapped in each measure by slider and every clap by a circle. That's as simple as a rhythm can get in easy diff. If you want to map drums, I suggest something like this, applying similar logic for other kicks that are 1/2 apart with the slider.
01:26:431 (7,8) - To follow the logic of the above, this would be a 2/1 slider.
01:43:850 (2,3) - A rhythm like this would fit the melody better than what you have.Sure, but have you considered the different gaps from each object? That's way worse for new players compared to the "flow" metion previously imo.
02:49:496 (5) - 03:10:141 (4) - I think a 1/2 slider is more fitting here due to the strong snare that the reverse currently lands on. It also sets up a nice 2/1 break for the player here.The problem here is using the same mapping object for both sounds here 02:49:012 (4,5) - that will make 5 stand out less and not map the emphasis it needs to
02:51:592 (4,5,1) - Stuff like this not only has uncomfortable movement associated with itthe movement here is not uncortable, it's like pretty linear, but is also deliberately misleading it isn't? I mean the player here just need to follow numbers, it's like easy diff you don't confuse by hush movements unlike insane above diffs, as the slider leads into 1 rather than 5, and also has equal visual distance to both 1 and 5. Spreading this pattern out more like this should make it easier to read.I'll change it for the sake of it imo, because I don't really see much of a difference
02:59:334 (4,5) - 03:19:979 (3,4,5) - This rhythm should be consistent with whatever you decide to do at 02:49:012 (4,5).Sections are different, there's a different sound in each of those bigger sliders, just listen carefully. Example you didn't notice that this 03:05:141 (5) - is similar to this 02:49:496 (5) - and both sliders are similar to each other 02:59:979 (5) - /03:20:625 (5) -
03:11:592 (2,3,4,5) - Same issue as 02:51:592 (4,5,1). That's a ladder pattern pretty usual too
03:25:786 (3) - I suggest using a circle here since the last strong sound is on the head of this slider, and the rest of the reverse takes away from it's impact.03:25:786 (7) - Same pattern of 02:49:496 (5) - and 03:05:141 (5) -

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Nao Tomori

osu! Alumni

3,106 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-06-25T19:08:36+00:00

[general]
the maroon combo color feels way too dark to me in game. please make it brighter

[beckoning]
remove bookmarks before red point to reduce file size

01:24:979 (2,1) - this played a bit uncomfortable - felt kind of overspaced. but that might be because my hand covered it

01:26:109 (2) - shouldn't it be 2 circles?

01:32:721 (2) - think 1/8th repeat would fit better here.

01:34:012 (3,4) - ctrl g seems to follow the high notes in marimba better

01:39:496 (2) - eh unclickable when normally this is a big jump?

02:30:786 (2) - can u like move the tail up a bit to make the blanket better

02:33:205 (4,1,2) - would be cute to ctrl g this then u get 2 sliders on the 2 bell type things

02:34:818 (1,2) - felt like you should accent the held out thing from 02:34:818 - instead of going right back to the ostinato background part

03:00:302 (1) - lol

03:03:850 (5,6,1) - this angle feel really awkward to me - normally it's back and forth movement but this one is a bit wider

03:05:302 (2) - to me this felt really really overspaced considering that the "note" its on is actually the song going silent. something like what mir did fits much better imo.

03:16:109 (1) - this has to be the ugliest bezier slider ive ever seen

[mir]
01:45:947 (2,3,4) - can u line this up better

i think all the 1/8th repeat + 1/4 jump patterns suck cuz u need to hold dwn on 1/8th repeats and cant abuse slider leniency like 1/4s so can u just nerf them all thanks

02:26:270 (4,5) - ctrlg? would be cool to see a systematic deprecation of the low notes onto slider ends or something so that this part doesnt all feel like random 1/2 spam
like 02:26:915 (7,1) - could be slider too etc

or 02:28:528 (2,3,4) - u could line up the other type f sound with sliders and whatnot
unless theres already a pattern to the sliders that i didnt see, but atm seems like random choice between 1/2 slider or circle in that part

kiai?

02:57:721 (6) - dnt think having a big jump into this one makes much sense, the sound is fading in rather than starting on a concrete point. small spacing would work better
03:08:044 (6) - same

03:18:367 (1) - would be cool to follow the 2 violins

02:49:979 (1,2) - having this as 1 slider might make more sense, you could raise its sv or something to make it stand out

03:14:012 (3) - cute triple here =(

03:24:334 (2) - wot is this note on lol just leave 1 on there

[mun]
01:50:947 (1,2) - ctrl g?
for 2 notes

02:34:334 (4,1) - highlight this thing a bit more plz, it is completely ignred

03:07:721 (4,5) - making this into slider + 1/1 could be cute

not much to say, someones gonna bitch about the intro sliders tho lol

[mikasaserket]
02:54:979 - something here?

03:05:463 - same

the issue here is that the literal entire kiai is clockwise motion around the side of the screen, gotta add in some direction changes somewhere or its kinda..

just do it on the kiai flashes, ctrl h everything in each part and done or something lol

kk lmk when you respond / gders do stuff

Mir

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2,152 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-06-25T19:50:25+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[mir]
01:45:947 (2,3,4) - can u line this up better

i think all the 1/8th repeat + 1/4 jump patterns suck cuz u need to hold dwn on 1/8th repeats and cant abuse slider leniency like 1/4s so can u just nerf them all thanks - they're fine they don't take much to hold down and it's not like they're unpleasant to play or anything (cuz for me they're fine)

02:26:270 (4,5) - ctrlg? would be cool to see a systematic deprecation of the low notes onto slider ends or something so that this part doesnt all feel like random 1/2 spam
like 02:26:915 (7,1) - could be slider too etc

or 02:28:528 (2,3,4) - u could line up the other type f sound with sliders and whatnot
unless theres already a pattern to the sliders that i didnt see, but atm seems like random choice between 1/2 slider or circle in that part

kiai?

02:57:721 (6) - dnt think having a big jump into this one makes much sense, the sound is fading in rather than starting on a concrete point. small spacing would work better
03:08:044 (6) - same

03:18:367 (1) - would be cool to follow the 2 violins

02:49:979 (1,2) - having this as 1 slider might make more sense, you could raise its sv or something to make it stand out

03:14:012 (3) - cute triple here =( - not worth it, wubs are better

03:24:334 (2) - wot is this note on lol just leave 1 on there

Did all of it other than what I mentioned

Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2017-06-25T20:07:33+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[general]
the maroon combo color feels way too dark to me in game. please make it brighter git gud
[beckoning]
remove bookmarks before red point to reduce file size git gud
01:24:979 (2,1) - this played a bit uncomfortable - felt kind of overspaced. but that might be because my hand covered it git gud
01:26:109 (2) - shouldn't it be 2 circles? 1 and 2 sliders are paired similar to 01:36:109 (3,4) -
01:32:721 (2) - think 1/8th repeat would fit better here. sure thing
01:34:012 (3,4) - ctrl g seems to follow the high notes in marimba better but muh edginess sure fine
01:39:496 (2) - eh unclickable when normally this is a big jump? is it? i didn't really think of it that way
02:30:786 (2) - can u like move the tail up a bit to make the blanket better yah
02:33:205 (4,1,2) - would be cute to ctrl g this then u get 2 sliders on the 2 bell type things I think it works far better like this, there's emphasis in not clicking them as well
02:34:818 (1,2) - felt like you should accent the held out thing from 02:34:818 - instead of going right back to the ostinato background part not sure what you're suggesting
03:00:302 (1) - lol swag
03:03:850 (5,6,1) - this angle feel really awkward to me - normally it's back and forth movement but this one is a bit wider this is intended
03:05:302 (2) - to me this felt really really overspaced considering that the "note" its on is actually the song going silent. something like what mir did fits much better imo. moved to emphasize 2->3 more than 1->2, true enough
03:16:109 (1) - this has to be the ugliest bezier slider ive ever seen you're ugly, how dare you hold sliders to unreasonable standards, slider lives matter

[mun]
01:50:947 (1,2) - ctrl g? This is good, it's emphasizing the second hit without making the entire thing circles. sometimes drums must be sacrificed.
for 2 notes

02:34:334 (4,1) - highlight this thing a bit more plz, it is completely ignred it is now highlighted, i found some yellow highlighter

03:07:721 (4,5) - making this into slider + 1/1 could be cute i disagree

not much to say, someones gonna bitch about the intro sliders tho lol they can suck madiq

[mikasaserket]
02:54:979 - something here?

03:05:463 - same

the issue here is that the literal entire kiai is clockwise motion around the side of the screen, gotta add in some direction changes somewhere or its kinda..

just do it on the kiai flashes, ctrl h everything in each part and done or something lol Did some slight modifications to help the rotational stuff and fill in the missing beats between kiais.

kk lmk when you respond / gders do stuff

Nao Tomori

osu! Alumni

3,106 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-06-26T03:24:01+00:00

"not clicking the note gives it emphasis guys!!" - shiirn 2017

Faust

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Faust 2017-07-09T07:07:14+00:00

How can the first-half of the poem be so good and the second-half be so meh ?

Hi.

Shiirn

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Topic Starter

Shiirn 2017-07-12T00:04:47+00:00

because i dont write poems good

Pachiru

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Pachiru 2017-07-12T00:24:32+00:00

i saw sakuraburst, and i didn't saw the name of the mapper, but i knew it was shiirn
gratz for bubble tho

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Lasse

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Lasse 2017-07-19T15:51:56+00:00

check bold things on normal/insane

your kiais feel too quiet, i'd go with 50% volume at least

easy
try to not abuse 1/2 sliders like this on an easy, they just become really annoying to play for beginners. even the normal doesn't really use them
01:32:560 (5) - circle would be just fine
02:03:205 (3) - is kinda alright cause it has bigger gaps before/after
02:47:076 (5) - could be 1/1 (one or two circles or a 1/1 slider), main rhythm is still the same and usage of 1/2 slider + suddenly following something
different/ignoring what you mapped before will just throw beginner off
similar for 02:54:818 - etc
02:49:012 (4,5) - something like http://i.imgur.com/ZOxGy6X.jpg would followe the song quite well and be more intuititive
it's even weirder for ones like 03:12:883 (5) - where the song actually puts emphasis on 03:13:205 - which you map with the weakest element

other things:
01:30:302 - would be more consistent to not have nc here
02:24:496 - 02:34:818 - makes no real sense to me, first part is mapped with much more rhythm density, but rhythm is the same in part 2, but also has building up drums?
02:50:302 (1,2,3,4) - this is just really clumped up in general, don't force blankets

normal
02:00:947 (4,1) - no

03:25:141 (4,1) - don't stack things under sliderends that becomes pretty confusing/hard to read for newer players

hard
01:41:270 (3) - buffer this, even if it's only 1/6 and not not 1/8+, on hard it becomes quite edgy
01:52:560 (2) - yea 1/8 buzz is pushing it a bit much imo, 1/4 repeat would work just fine // 01:57:721 (2) -
02:41:270 (1,2,1,2) - feel so much weaker than previous pattern due to lack of spacing buildup even though music still builds up
how about something like http://i.imgur.com/D2MX2P4.jpg ?
cute diff, but I can't really understand how you decide when to utilize passive jumps in the kiai and when not, it seems a bit arbitrary, like 03:12:883 (4,5,1) - suddenly spikes difficulty quite a bit?

insane
01:41:350 (4,5,6,7) - snapping (the thing hard/extra do seems right)
01:31:431 (5) - I'd remove the repeat here and silence tail, it feels more like a single impact thing and is definitely different from stuff like 01:32:721 (5) -
01:52:076 (6) - ^
02:03:205 (1) - would look cute if the first bump lined up with the tick and second could probably be a bit "stronger", like http://i.imgur.com/bRoTljs.jpg ?
02:44:818 (1) - and then you complain about my random high spacing 1/4 gaps :eyes: but seriously, this is just forcing missed sliderends from misreading it and also seems a bit extreme+sudden for this difficulty level. could try something like http://i.imgur.com/BoTFan1.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/8W0L7ur.jpg or anything that reduces this

the only diff shiirn mapped
02:54:173 (1,2,1,2,1) - anime // 03:14:818 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -
it's also much easier when it repeats at 03:04:496 (1,2,1,2) -

feel free to get it rebubbled after mir fixed snapping and normal uses higher stack leniency
might come back to this depending on how easy is handled

Mir

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Mir 2017-07-19T16:00:30+00:00

fixed all from lasse

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Mun

469 posts

Joined July 2015

Mun 2017-07-19T17:58:26+00:00

Lasse wrote:
check bold things on normal/insane

your kiais feel too quiet, i'd go with 50% volume at least

hard
01:41:270 (3) - buffer this, even if it's only 1/6 and not not 1/8+, on hard it becomes quite edgy buffered
01:52:560 (2) - yea 1/8 buzz is pushing it a bit much imo, 1/4 repeat would work just fine // 01:57:721 (2) - 1/4 repeat doesn't highlight the sound there nearly as well. There's enough of a gap between this note and the next that it doesn't affect the player nearly as much as you think, and it's close enough to the start that a player can restart without losing much.
02:41:270 (1,2,1,2) - feel so much weaker than previous pattern due to lack of spacing buildup even though music still builds up
how about something like http://i.imgur.com/D2MX2P4.jpg ? Fixed!
cute diff, but I can't really understand how you decide when to utilize passive jumps in the kiai and when not, it seems a bit arbitrary, like 03:12:883 (4,5,1) - suddenly spikes difficulty quite a bit? I fail to see the problem. Is that much of a spike at all?

feel free to get it rebubbled after mir fixed snapping and normal uses higher stack leniency
might come back to this depending on how easy is handled

thank 4 mod !!

tomato elegy tv siez

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Otosaka-Yu

1,119 posts

Joined August 2013

Otosaka-Yu 2017-07-22T06:16:20+00:00

The artist should be 【sakuraburst】
The title should be 「forest of the spirits」
https://soundcloud.com/sakuraburst/fore ... he-spirits
btw, good song

Last edited by Otosaka-Yu 2017-08-01T01:05:27+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Mun

469 posts

Joined July 2015

Mun 2017-07-23T00:13:12+00:00

Suzuki_1112 wrote:
The artist should be 【sakuraburst】
The title should be 「forest of the spirits」
https://soundcloud.com/sakuraburst/forest-of-the-spirits
btw, good song

The map currently has the metadata straight from sakuraburst's featured artists listing, is it overwritten by soundcloud or is osu! metadata considered correct?

7ambda

2,589 posts

Joined January 2015

7ambda 2017-07-24T03:44:07+00:00

literally skipping almost a minute and a half of the song

why

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,152 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-07-24T09:14:39+00:00

F1r3tar wrote:
literally skipping almost a minute and a half of the song

why

how would you map it oh wise one?

would you like 1 minute of spinners?

slider art?

circles?

what if you're aiming for fc and you miss when the song gets good?

wanna replay that?

we're skipping the intro because it's boring.

7ambda

2,589 posts

Joined January 2015

7ambda 2017-07-24T09:19:32+00:00

Mir wrote:
how would you map it oh wise one? Place notes down.

would you like 1 minute of spinners? Undermapping 101

slider art? Sure, why not?

circles? Of course. There are individual sounds that support them.

what if you're aiming for fc and you miss when the song gets good? Play it again.

wanna replay that? Sure, the song's nice anyways.

we're skipping the intro because it's boring. d

Mir

osu! Alumni

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Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-07-24T09:21:28+00:00

ok and for the easy diffs?

just respect the decision and move on if you don't like it, you're not being forced to play it we just didn't want to map it because it's just ambience

7ambda

2,589 posts

Joined January 2015

7ambda 2017-07-24T09:24:44+00:00

well i can't do anything about it, but that doesn't mean i agree with it

Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2017-07-29T01:29:42+00:00

Mun wrote:
Suzuki_1112 wrote:
The artist should be 【sakuraburst】
The title should be 「forest of the spirits」
https://soundcloud.com/sakuraburst/forest-of-the-spirits
btw, good song
The map currently has the metadata straight from sakuraburst's featured artists listing, is it overwritten by soundcloud or is osu! metadata considered correct?

Discussion with Kwan and sakuraburst proper determines that either way is correct.

Lasse wrote:
check bold things on normal/insane

your kiais feel too quiet, i'd go with 50% volume at least

normal
02:00:947 (4,1) - no fix

03:25:141 (4,1) - don't stack things under sliderends that becomes pretty confusing/hard to read for newer players fix

the only diff shiirn mapped
02:54:173 (1,2,1,2,1) - anime // 03:14:818 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - xd
it's also much easier when it repeats at 03:04:496 (1,2,1,2) - intentional, it's weaker here

Updated.

Re: Mapping the start:

Fuck that. The intro is way too long and meandering to fully fit with the theme of the map, which is, in every difficulty, to heavily contrast the non-chorus and chorus sections. Adding an entire third archetype of structure and style (because you'd need to change it up to map a much slower section) would heavily damage the obvious contrast between the two "normal vs abnormal" sections in the map by adding a third that, if it were neither, would be an outlier, and if it were one of those, it would imbalance the track towards that side.

SilverCatalyst

173 posts

Joined May 2016

SilverCatalyst 2017-07-29T01:35:35+00:00

yes thank u pls get this ranked <3

Mun

469 posts

Joined July 2015

Mun 2017-07-29T01:38:17+00:00

can just shut up?

Net0

Beatmap Nominator

1,273 posts

Joined October 2014

Net0 2017-07-29T05:09:28+00:00

Sorry late

Lasse wrote:
check bold things on normal/insane

your kiais feel too quiet, i'd go with 50% volume at least

easy
try to not abuse 1/2 sliders like this on an easy, they just become really annoying to play for beginners. even the normal doesn't really use them
01:32:560 (5) - circle would be just fine
02:03:205 (3) - is kinda alright cause it has bigger gaps before/after
02:47:076 (5) - could be 1/1 (one or two circles or a 1/1 slider), main rhythm is still the same and usage of 1/2 slider + suddenly following something
different/ignoring what you mapped before will just throw beginner off
The ones with bigger gap I don't agree, but all applied, fixed by replacing all 1/2 sliders with circle.
similar for 02:54:818 - etc

02:49:012 (4,5) - something like http://i.imgur.com/ZOxGy6X.jpg would followe the song quite well and be more intuititivefirst one is circle and slider extended
it's even weirder for ones like 03:12:883 (5) - where the song actually puts emphasis on 03:13:205 - which you map with the weakest element Consistent gaps of 1/1 on the transitions now would be consistent with your other suggestions of replacing the 1/2 sliders.

other things:
01:30:302 - would be more consistent to not have nc hereFixed
02:24:496 - 02:34:818 - makes no real sense to me, first part is mapped with much more rhythm density, but rhythm is the same in part 2, but also has building up drums?You're considering only the rhythm aspect of it. It's a build up and instead of making it the same thing all over again I stopped following the synth to follow only the drums, which also allowed me to get the new players some rest after the intese section before. Also the increased spacing and the spinner introduction give enough contrast for the build up. Makes a lot of sense.
02:50:302 (1,2,3,4) - this is just really clumped up in general I move a bit more to get more organized, don't force blankets"I think it's cute"

update

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474,0,206431,21,4,1:2:0:0:

If any other issues come up I give authorization to Shiirn to change himself anything he wants in case I don't reply in 24 hours. Some irl stuff. Thanks for the mod.

polka

1,125 posts

Joined March 2014

polka 2017-08-01T01:04:42+00:00

Shiirn your maps are getting so much better aesthetically

oo I really like this go u

Nao Tomori

osu! Alumni

3,106 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-08-04T18:08:30+00:00

7 naxess u cant fool me!!!

Ephemeral

Inland Empire

3,945 posts

Joined April 2009

Ephemeral 2017-08-08T06:16:04+00:00

I turned on moddingv2 (https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/595796/discussion) and did some modding there.

Looks good overall though. I think it's ready.

Net0

Beatmap Nominator

1,273 posts

Joined October 2014

Net0 2017-08-08T21:22:44+00:00

Ephemeral wrote:
I turned on moddingv2 (https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/595796/discussion) and did some modding there.

Looks good overall though. I think it's ready.

Just for curiosity, since you got this mapset into moddingv2 does it necessarially means that qualification will be done there as well or regular forum heart is still functional?

Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2017-08-09T03:55:25+00:00

pretty sure either way works

ephemeral threw it on mv2 as a whim, not a test of the moddingv2 system, so this should be fine under v1

(Obviously, I have not actually updated the map yet. I'm waiting for a T2.)

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2017-08-09T10:27:24+00:00

what do I do then .-.

~~Mir, you baka, 01:31:512 - volumes // 01:52:157 - same~~

Since I am too lazy to go over the posts in the mv2, can you update please =w= (or is it breaking something if you do?)

Zexous

713 posts

Joined July 2012

Zexous 2017-08-09T12:43:19+00:00

fwiw i think this should be bpm halved

Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2017-08-09T14:10:10+00:00

fwiw this is the official bpm so BUGGER YOU

also updated