Halfslashed wrote:
[General]
Make "Easy" lowercase to fit the rest of your spread namesI did that but upload bugged it :S.Actually, I suggest just changing the easy/normal to normal/advanced, since it's more reflective on the actual difficulty of the set.
Make sure to tag all of the GDers too. You can also tag the subgenres and the album "blood orange".
[net0's Easy]
01:22:560 (1,2,3,4) - Two things: The movement here is unintuitive for the lowest difficulty, as the player will follow the slider to the end, then jerk back to hit the next circle.not true, new players don't assume slider ends as even the new rc research showed. They tend to skip sliders ends and hush to next object, but that also depends. Whatever the case is this assumption is not valid as for the movement is unatural I suggest using a more intuitive motion, like placing the circle in the path of the slider tail. This and this are two options, depending on whether or not you want a comfortable feeling or not. The other thing is that your rhythm seems to prioritize the drums rather than the melody, but then you skip prominent drums in favor of 2/1 gaps.I didn't main drum beats are mapped in each measure by slider and every clap by a circle. That's as simple as a rhythm can get in easy diff. If you want to map drums, I suggest something like this, applying similar logic for other kicks that are 1/2 apart with the slider.
01:26:431 (7,8) - To follow the logic of the above, this would be a 2/1 slider.
01:43:850 (2,3) - A rhythm like this would fit the melody better than what you have.Sure, but have you considered the different gaps from each object? That's way worse for new players compared to the "flow" metion previously imo.
02:49:496 (5) - 03:10:141 (4) - I think a 1/2 slider is more fitting here due to the strong snare that the reverse currently lands on. It also sets up a nice 2/1 break for the player here.The problem here is using the same mapping object for both sounds here 02:49:012 (4,5) - that will make 5 stand out less and not map the emphasis it needs to
02:51:592 (4,5,1) - Stuff like this not only has uncomfortable movement associated with itthe movement here is not uncortable, it's like pretty linear, but is also deliberately misleading it isn't? I mean the player here just need to follow numbers, it's like easy diff you don't confuse by hush movements unlike insane above diffs, as the slider leads into 1 rather than 5, and also has equal visual distance to both 1 and 5. Spreading this pattern out more like this should make it easier to read.I'll change it for the sake of it imo, because I don't really see much of a difference
02:59:334 (4,5) - 03:19:979 (3,4,5) - This rhythm should be consistent with whatever you decide to do at 02:49:012 (4,5).Sections are different, there's a different sound in each of those bigger sliders, just listen carefully. Example you didn't notice that this 03:05:141 (5) - is similar to this 02:49:496 (5) - and both sliders are similar to each other 02:59:979 (5) - /03:20:625 (5) -
03:11:592 (2,3,4,5) - Same issue as 02:51:592 (4,5,1). That's a ladder pattern pretty usual too
03:25:786 (3) - I suggest using a circle here since the last strong sound is on the head of this slider, and the rest of the reverse takes away from it's impact.03:25:786 (7) - Same pattern of 02:49:496 (5) - and 03:05:141 (5) -
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Did all of it other than what I mentionedNaotoshi wrote:
[mir]
01:45:947 (2,3,4) - can u line this up better
i think all the 1/8th repeat + 1/4 jump patterns suck cuz u need to hold dwn on 1/8th repeats and cant abuse slider leniency like 1/4s so can u just nerf them all thanks - they're fine they don't take much to hold down and it's not like they're unpleasant to play or anything (cuz for me they're fine)
02:26:270 (4,5) - ctrlg? would be cool to see a systematic deprecation of the low notes onto slider ends or something so that this part doesnt all feel like random 1/2 spam
like 02:26:915 (7,1) - could be slider too etc
or 02:28:528 (2,3,4) - u could line up the other type f sound with sliders and whatnot
unless theres already a pattern to the sliders that i didnt see, but atm seems like random choice between 1/2 slider or circle in that part
kiai?
02:57:721 (6) - dnt think having a big jump into this one makes much sense, the sound is fading in rather than starting on a concrete point. small spacing would work better
03:08:044 (6) - same
03:18:367 (1) - would be cool to follow the 2 violins
02:49:979 (1,2) - having this as 1 slider might make more sense, you could raise its sv or something to make it stand out
03:14:012 (3) - cute triple here =( - not worth it, wubs are better
03:24:334 (2) - wot is this note on lol just leave 1 on there
Naotoshi wrote:
[general]
the maroon combo color feels way too dark to me in game. please make it brighter git gud
[beckoning]
remove bookmarks before red point to reduce file size git gud
01:24:979 (2,1) - this played a bit uncomfortable - felt kind of overspaced. but that might be because my hand covered it git gud
01:26:109 (2) - shouldn't it be 2 circles? 1 and 2 sliders are paired similar to 01:36:109 (3,4) -
01:32:721 (2) - think 1/8th repeat would fit better here. sure thing
01:34:012 (3,4) - ctrl g seems to follow the high notes in marimba better but muh edginess sure fine
01:39:496 (2) - eh unclickable when normally this is a big jump? is it? i didn't really think of it that way
02:30:786 (2) - can u like move the tail up a bit to make the blanket better yah
02:33:205 (4,1,2) - would be cute to ctrl g this then u get 2 sliders on the 2 bell type things I think it works far better like this, there's emphasis in not clicking them as well
02:34:818 (1,2) - felt like you should accent the held out thing from 02:34:818 - instead of going right back to the ostinato background part not sure what you're suggesting
03:00:302 (1) - lol swag
03:03:850 (5,6,1) - this angle feel really awkward to me - normally it's back and forth movement but this one is a bit wider this is intended
03:05:302 (2) - to me this felt really really overspaced considering that the "note" its on is actually the song going silent. something like what mir did fits much better imo. moved to emphasize 2->3 more than 1->2, true enough
03:16:109 (1) - this has to be the ugliest bezier slider ive ever seen you're ugly, how dare you hold sliders to unreasonable standards, slider lives matter
[mun]
01:50:947 (1,2) - ctrl g? This is good, it's emphasizing the second hit without making the entire thing circles. sometimes drums must be sacrificed.
for 2 notes
02:34:334 (4,1) - highlight this thing a bit more plz, it is completely ignred it is now highlighted, i found some yellow highlighter
03:07:721 (4,5) - making this into slider + 1/1 could be cute i disagree
not much to say, someones gonna bitch about the intro sliders tho lol they can suck madiq
[mikasaserket]
02:54:979 - something here?
03:05:463 - same
the issue here is that the literal entire kiai is clockwise motion around the side of the screen, gotta add in some direction changes somewhere or its kinda..
just do it on the kiai flashes, ctrl h everything in each part and done or something lol Did some slight modifications to help the rotational stuff and fill in the missing beats between kiais.
kk lmk when you respond / gders do stuff
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Lasse wrote:
check bold things on normal/insane
your kiais feel too quiet, i'd go with 50% volume at least
hard
01:41:270 (3) - buffer this, even if it's only 1/6 and not not 1/8+, on hard it becomes quite edgy buffered
01:52:560 (2) - yea 1/8 buzz is pushing it a bit much imo, 1/4 repeat would work just fine // 01:57:721 (2) - 1/4 repeat doesn't highlight the sound there nearly as well. There's enough of a gap between this note and the next that it doesn't affect the player nearly as much as you think, and it's close enough to the start that a player can restart without losing much.
02:41:270 (1,2,1,2) - feel so much weaker than previous pattern due to lack of spacing buildup even though music still builds up
how about something like http://i.imgur.com/D2MX2P4.jpg ? Fixed!
cute diff, but I can't really understand how you decide when to utilize passive jumps in the kiai and when not, it seems a bit arbitrary, like 03:12:883 (4,5,1) - suddenly spikes difficulty quite a bit? I fail to see the problem. Is that much of a spike at all?
feel free to get it rebubbled after mir fixed snapping and normal uses higher stack leniency
might come back to this depending on how easy is handled
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The map currently has the metadata straight from sakuraburst's featured artists listing, is it overwritten by soundcloud or is osu! metadata considered correct?Suzuki_1112 wrote:
The artist should be 【sakuraburst】
The title should be 「forest of the spirits」
https://soundcloud.com/sakuraburst/forest-of-the-spirits
btw, good song
how would you map it oh wise one?F1r3tar wrote:
literally skipping almost a minute and a half of the song
why
Mir wrote:
how would you map it oh wise one? Place notes down.
would you like 1 minute of spinners? Undermapping 101
slider art? Sure, why not?
circles? Of course. There are individual sounds that support them.
what if you're aiming for fc and you miss when the song gets good? Play it again.
wanna replay that? Sure, the song's nice anyways.
we're skipping the intro because it's boring. d
Discussion with Kwan and sakuraburst proper determines that either way is correct.Mun wrote:
The map currently has the metadata straight from sakuraburst's featured artists listing, is it overwritten by soundcloud or is osu! metadata considered correct?Suzuki_1112 wrote:
The artist should be 【sakuraburst】
The title should be 「forest of the spirits」
https://soundcloud.com/sakuraburst/forest-of-the-spirits
btw, good song
Updated.Lasse wrote:
check bold things on normal/insane
your kiais feel too quiet, i'd go with 50% volume at least
normal
02:00:947 (4,1) - no fix
03:25:141 (4,1) - don't stack things under sliderends that becomes pretty confusing/hard to read for newer players fix
the only diff shiirn mapped
02:54:173 (1,2,1,2,1) - anime // 03:14:818 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - xd
it's also much easier when it repeats at 03:04:496 (1,2,1,2) - intentional, it's weaker here
Lasse wrote:
check bold things on normal/insane
your kiais feel too quiet, i'd go with 50% volume at least
easy
try to not abuse 1/2 sliders like this on an easy, they just become really annoying to play for beginners. even the normal doesn't really use them
01:32:560 (5) - circle would be just fine
02:03:205 (3) - is kinda alright cause it has bigger gaps before/after
02:47:076 (5) - could be 1/1 (one or two circles or a 1/1 slider), main rhythm is still the same and usage of 1/2 slider + suddenly following something
different/ignoring what you mapped before will just throw beginner off
The ones with bigger gap I don't agree, but all applied, fixed by replacing all 1/2 sliders with circle.
similar for 02:54:818 - etc
02:49:012 (4,5) - something like http://i.imgur.com/ZOxGy6X.jpg would followe the song quite well and be more intuititivefirst one is circle and slider extended
it's even weirder for ones like 03:12:883 (5) - where the song actually puts emphasis on 03:13:205 - which you map with the weakest element Consistent gaps of 1/1 on the transitions now would be consistent with your other suggestions of replacing the 1/2 sliders.
other things:
01:30:302 - would be more consistent to not have nc hereFixed
02:24:496 - 02:34:818 - makes no real sense to me, first part is mapped with much more rhythm density, but rhythm is the same in part 2, but also has building up drums?You're considering only the rhythm aspect of it. It's a build up and instead of making it the same thing all over again I stopped following the synth to follow only the drums, which also allowed me to get the new players some rest after the intese section before. Also the increased spacing and the spinner introduction give enough contrast for the build up. Makes a lot of sense.
02:50:302 (1,2,3,4) - this is just really clumped up in general I move a bit more to get more organized, don't force blankets"I think it's cute"
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Just for curiosity, since you got this mapset into moddingv2 does it necessarially means that qualification will be done there as well or regular forum heart is still functional?Ephemeral wrote:
I turned on moddingv2 (https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/595796/discussion) and did some modding there.
Looks good overall though. I think it's ready.
:Ok_hand: :Ok_hand: :Ok_hand: :Ok_hand: :Ok_hand: :Ok_hand: :Ok_hand: :Ok_hand: :Ok_hand: :Ok_hand:Mir wrote:
what if you're aiming for fc and you miss when the song gets good?