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thank you so much~!!!Kibbleru wrote:
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脆脆的 KANNA ~ 恭喜
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哇，是Rika 。Kawayi Rika wrote:
脆脆的 KANNA ~ 恭喜
感谢~~~！
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舅舅爷！弟媳！舅舅也！六舅！啊那个郭德纲。。奇怪的郭冬临。。。。螺旋升天，法力无边！！！！两对百合一对基，还有正太配人妻，一个吃货没CP
gdi kibb
you've got karen's link messed up in the description btw
i thought we were still waiting for confirmation on the romanised title though? ;/
It has been confirmed.Gaia wrote:
i thought we were still waiting for confirmation on the romanised title though? ;/
hey! theres some stuff on karens diff that bothers me a bit
00:11:322 (1,1) - movement seems really awkward here, causes you drop off from the slider 00:11:322 (1) - too early
00:20:433 (1) - seems like the wrong sampleset? should be normal i think
00:22:211 (5) - 00:29:322 (6) - imo these would play a lot better as 2 circles, the drums are a lot more pronounced here while sliders like 00:18:655 (5) - only have the vocal
00:32:877 (1,2,1) - you have the back and forths at 00:32:433 (1,2,1,2) - but then use a wide angle for 00:32:877 (1,2,1) . at this bpm it causes such an awkward transition
something like http://puu.sh/vD4cF/70a26dbf6f.jpg is much smoother to play and follows the same flow idea while still giving emphasis
00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,1) - the jumps aren't placed all that well tbh, the instruments are grouped in the music as 00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1) - and 00:39:766 (2,1,2) - but the way it's mapped groups 00:39:544 (1,2) - together. putting the jump on the weaker beat 00:39:544 (1) - makes 00:39:766 (2) - feel really insignificant and doesnt make much sense cause its the same sounds as 00:39:099 (4,5,6,7)
00:40:433 (2,3) - your previous rhythms mostly focused on the instruments, yet here u have the instruments on slider ends and are purely clicking vocals. you could've lead into a 1/2 slider at 00:40:211 (1) - and mapped clickable stuff from 00:40:544 - allowing u to follow the instruments
01:03:322 - aimod says this kiai is unsnapped but idk if thats a thing
01:19:099 (1,2,1) - again the flow changes drastically from back and forths 01:18:877 (1,2,1,2) - to the wide angle. ctrl g'ing this pattern would've made it a lot more intuitive to play, similar to how 01:17:099 (1,2,1,2,1) - plays
01:19:877 (4) - caught me when i first played it. you didn't normally obscure objects underneath sliders, so i dont see a reason to do it now
01:20:877 (1,2,1) - flow could also be thought out better
01:21:099 (1,2) - 01:22:877 (1,2) - this abuses slider leniency too much tbh. you could argue it works to stress the sounds, except the sliders look too similar in length to sliders such as 01:20:099 (1) - which are 1/2 causing confusion
01:21:544 (2,3,4) - and ye, you have different rhythms but same spacing gaps
01:26:433 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this goes from like 0 to 100. it feels like too much of a diff spike with no buildup whatsoever and causes the majority of people to fail
i'd like to hear ur thoughts
00:11:322 (1,1) - movement seems really awkward here, causes you drop off from the slider 00:11:322 (1) - too early
00:20:433 (1) - seems like the wrong sampleset? should be normal i think
00:22:211 (5) - 00:29:322 (6) - imo these would play a lot better as 2 circles, the drums are a lot more pronounced here while sliders like 00:18:655 (5) - only have the vocal
00:32:877 (1,2,1) - you have the back and forths at 00:32:433 (1,2,1,2) - but then use a wide angle for 00:32:877 (1,2,1) . at this bpm it causes such an awkward transition
something like http://puu.sh/vD4cF/70a26dbf6f.jpg is much smoother to play and follows the same flow idea while still giving emphasis00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,1) - the jumps aren't placed all that well tbh, the instruments are grouped in the music as 00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1) - and 00:39:766 (2,1,2) - but the way it's mapped groups 00:39:544 (1,2) - together. putting the jump on the weaker beat 00:39:544 (1) - makes 00:39:766 (2) - feel really insignificant and doesnt make much sense cause its the same sounds as 00:39:099 (4,5,6,7)
00:40:433 (2,3) - your previous rhythms mostly focused on the instruments, yet here u have the instruments on slider ends and are purely clicking vocals. you could've lead into a 1/2 slider at 00:40:211 (1) - and mapped clickable stuff from 00:40:544 - allowing u to follow the instruments
01:03:322 - aimod says this kiai is unsnapped but idk if thats a thing
01:19:099 (1,2,1) - again the flow changes drastically from back and forths 01:18:877 (1,2,1,2) - to the wide angle. ctrl g'ing this pattern would've made it a lot more intuitive to play, similar to how 01:17:099 (1,2,1,2,1) - plays
01:19:877 (4) - caught me when i first played it. you didn't normally obscure objects underneath sliders, so i dont see a reason to do it now
01:20:877 (1,2,1) - flow could also be thought out better
01:21:099 (1,2) - 01:22:877 (1,2) - this abuses slider leniency too much tbh. you could argue it works to stress the sounds, except the sliders look too similar in length to sliders such as 01:20:099 (1) - which are 1/2 causing confusion
01:21:544 (2,3,4) - and ye, you have different rhythms but same spacing gaps
01:26:433 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this goes from like 0 to 100. it feels like too much of a diff spike with no buildup whatsoever and causes the majority of people to fail
i'd like to hear ur thoughts
gratz!
finally a ranked one
finally a ranked one
Additionally to what Pentori mentioned about the highest difficulty, I'd like to add some thoughts on other difficulties:
[Easy]
I don't really understand the NCing in this diff. Most of the time it seems like it follows the patterning, like 00:13:544 (1,2) - , but then for example 00:45:544 (3) - is not NCd.. and many other places like that. Also some of the combos seem really short, like 01:15:766 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - . I think this diff would benefit from a simple, consistent comboing on every second big white tick, or something similar to that.
The same problem applies to the Hard difficulty, too.
00:49:099 (1,1) - 00:53:544 (4,1) - etc.
These overlaps don't seem like a good idea, because the tails from both sliders are overlapping a lot. More straight-forward readable patterns like http://puu.sh/vDqY9/2e9bbd4045.jpg will be better for newbies and also help the aesthetic.
[Normal]
00:28:877 (2,3) - This larger gap in rhythms sounds weird, because you had denser rhythms before and there isn't really anything different in the song. I would expect a similar rhythm to 00:20:655 (1,2,3) - or atleast have that gap filled up with a note at 00:29:099 -
00:33:099 - to 00:43:766 - It's unfortunate you mapped this section as dense as the other sections around it. The song is reducing the density a lot here and the other difficulties (like Easy or Hard) reflected that well with the intensity of the map. I would recommend you to avoid having a lot of 1/2-rhythms here.
00:49:099 - It feels awkward that this diff is the only one with that break here. It's a very intense buildup to the chorus so a break doesn't seem fitting.
01:24:655 (2,3,1,2,3) - In this part, the intensity and pace of the song increases significantly again, so it feels weird to have such low density rhythms. I would recommend to add some 1/2 in this part, to make it reflect the song better.
[Hard]
00:13:988 (3) - This slidershape feels out of place in between all the curved ones here. Since all the sounds 00:13:655 (2,3,4,5) - are the same, it would be best to have the same slidershape copy-pasted, for example in a rotational pattern like that: http://puu.sh/vDrPN/6faaff13d4.jpg
01:26:877 (4,1) - The jump between these seems really big compared to other jumps in this map. It would be nice if you could move 01:27:321 (1,2) - more downwards.
[Insane]
01:04:322 (4,5) - The gap between these objects reads like a 1/4-gap for me, because 01:03:322 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern has these 1/4-gaps with very big spacings in between, so I expected the same here after this shorter slider. I would recommend to add a circle in between and make a pattern like this: http://puu.sh/vDsiN/98f963d782.jpg So you have that pattern going.
Cute mapset Though I feel like it needs these improvements. Good luck!
[Easy]
I don't really understand the NCing in this diff. Most of the time it seems like it follows the patterning, like 00:13:544 (1,2) - , but then for example 00:45:544 (3) - is not NCd.. and many other places like that. Also some of the combos seem really short, like 01:15:766 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - . I think this diff would benefit from a simple, consistent comboing on every second big white tick, or something similar to that.
The same problem applies to the Hard difficulty, too.
00:49:099 (1,1) - 00:53:544 (4,1) - etc.
These overlaps don't seem like a good idea, because the tails from both sliders are overlapping a lot. More straight-forward readable patterns like http://puu.sh/vDqY9/2e9bbd4045.jpg will be better for newbies and also help the aesthetic.
[Normal]
00:28:877 (2,3) - This larger gap in rhythms sounds weird, because you had denser rhythms before and there isn't really anything different in the song. I would expect a similar rhythm to 00:20:655 (1,2,3) - or atleast have that gap filled up with a note at 00:29:099 -
00:33:099 - to 00:43:766 - It's unfortunate you mapped this section as dense as the other sections around it. The song is reducing the density a lot here and the other difficulties (like Easy or Hard) reflected that well with the intensity of the map. I would recommend you to avoid having a lot of 1/2-rhythms here.
00:49:099 - It feels awkward that this diff is the only one with that break here. It's a very intense buildup to the chorus so a break doesn't seem fitting.
01:24:655 (2,3,1,2,3) - In this part, the intensity and pace of the song increases significantly again, so it feels weird to have such low density rhythms. I would recommend to add some 1/2 in this part, to make it reflect the song better.
[Hard]
00:13:988 (3) - This slidershape feels out of place in between all the curved ones here. Since all the sounds 00:13:655 (2,3,4,5) - are the same, it would be best to have the same slidershape copy-pasted, for example in a rotational pattern like that: http://puu.sh/vDrPN/6faaff13d4.jpg
01:26:877 (4,1) - The jump between these seems really big compared to other jumps in this map. It would be nice if you could move 01:27:321 (1,2) - more downwards.
[Insane]
01:04:322 (4,5) - The gap between these objects reads like a 1/4-gap for me, because 01:03:322 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern has these 1/4-gaps with very big spacings in between, so I expected the same here after this shorter slider. I would recommend to add a circle in between and make a pattern like this: http://puu.sh/vDsiN/98f963d782.jpg So you have that pattern going.
Cute mapset
Though I feel like it needs these improvements. Good luck!whereSotarks wrote:
It has been confirmed.
i linked it hundred times, and got the confirmation by kwan on twitter and discordGaia wrote:
whereSotarks wrote:
It has been confirmed.
there was an extension to that discussion where doormat, xexxar and I all think it should be reconsidered
looks like there's some things worth talking about, so i'll take this down for now
be sure to address the mods from pentori and desperate-kun!
be sure to address the mods from pentori and desperate-kun!
You guys should wait for Xexxar or KwaN post answer about what Doormat, Xexxar and Gaia mentioned on p/5972521 before qualifying this. Even if there is translation on CD cover, this kind of inconsistency (Title: Jpanaese, Romanised: English) just makes users confused imo..
P.S.
"No one searches a map with romanisation" can never be a reason to use translation in the romanised field as long as the client/rule asks you to use romanisation.
P.S.
"No one searches a map with romanisation" can never be a reason to use translation in the romanised field as long as the client/rule asks you to use romanisation.
Just for clarification, the entire "modified hepburn romanization system" is meant for archival and documentation purposes. Actually, osu! doesn't follow the rules of the modified hepburn system that closely anyways.
This is just one set of rules for the modified hepburn system.
https://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/japanes ... 111215.pdf
Another published article on the modified hepburn ss=ystem can be found here:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1 ... 011.536751
For example, this is how one should approach the modified hepburn romanization:
As you can see, already the system seems to deviate from how we would normally romanize words anyways. アルミニウム is for example romanized as Aruminyumu instead of Aluminum or even (if you replaced katakana for its corresponding english sound) Aruminiumu. There are obscure rules that make sense in archival settings but the osu! database isn't set up to really accomodate that. As well, using these rules precisely only benefits researchers, and not people who just want to search up a song.
Anyways, that's my rant on the modified hepburn system. On to actually important stuff, "romanization" is not "translation". The purpose of romanizing something is to show a reader how to pronounce a word or phrase if they are unfamiliar with an alphabet. Someone who cannot read kanji would have absolutely no idea how to pronounce 青空. I mean show this to a person who could only read/write english and ask them to read it. What will they say? Yea, nothing, because they have no idea how the writing system works or how the character should be pronounced. The function of romanization is to put these characters into a writing system that the reader can actually read. You cannot read 青空 unless you know chinese, but you can read "Aozora" if you know English. Translating 青空 to Blue Sky doesn't tell you how to read/pronounce the kanji, so it's not a romanization, it's a translation.
This is just one set of rules for the modified hepburn system.
https://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/japanes ... 111215.pdf
Another published article on the modified hepburn ss=ystem can be found here:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1 ... 011.536751
For example, this is how one should approach the modified hepburn romanization:
As you can see, already the system seems to deviate from how we would normally romanize words anyways. アルミニウム is for example romanized as Aruminyumu instead of Aluminum or even (if you replaced katakana for its corresponding english sound) Aruminiumu. There are obscure rules that make sense in archival settings but the osu! database isn't set up to really accomodate that. As well, using these rules precisely only benefits researchers, and not people who just want to search up a song.
Anyways, that's my rant on the modified hepburn system. On to actually important stuff, "romanization" is not "translation". The purpose of romanizing something is to show a reader how to pronounce a word or phrase if they are unfamiliar with an alphabet. Someone who cannot read kanji would have absolutely no idea how to pronounce 青空. I mean show this to a person who could only read/write english and ask them to read it. What will they say? Yea, nothing, because they have no idea how the writing system works or how the character should be pronounced. The function of romanization is to put these characters into a writing system that the reader can actually read. You cannot read 青空 unless you know chinese, but you can read "Aozora" if you know English. Translating 青空 to Blue Sky doesn't tell you how to read/pronounce the kanji, so it's not a romanization, it's a translation.
Topic Starter
Desperate-kun wrote:
Additionally to what Pentori mentioned about the highest difficulty, I'd like to add some thoughts on other difficulties:
[Easy]
I don't really understand the NCing in this diff. Most of the time it seems like it follows the patterning, like 00:13:544 (1,2) - , but then for example 00:45:544 (3) - is not NCd.. and many other places like that. Also some of the combos seem really short, like 01:15:766 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - . I think this diff would benefit from a simple, consistent comboing on every second big white tick, or something similar to that.NC remap complete
The same problem applies to the Hard difficulty, too.
00:49:099 (1,1) - 00:53:544 (4,1) - etc.remap cpmplete
These overlaps don't seem like a good idea, because the tails from both sliders are overlapping a lot. More straight-forward readable patterns like http://puu.sh/vDqY9/2e9bbd4045.jpg will be better for newbies and also help the aesthetic.
[Hard]
00:13:988 (3) - This slidershape feels out of place in between all the curved ones here. Since all the sounds 00:13:655 (2,3,4,5) - are the same, it would be best to have the same slidershape copy-pasted, for example in a rotational pattern like that: http://puu.sh/vDrPN/6faaff13d4.jpgAlthough I did't modify the image like your EX..but I fixed the problem
01:26:877 (4,1) - The jump between these seems really big compared to other jumps in this map. It would be nice if you could move 01:27:321 (1,2) - more downwards. Its clear
[Insane]
01:04:322 (4,5) - The gap between these objects reads like a 1/4-gap for me, because 01:03:322 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern has these 1/4-gaps with very big spacings in between, so I expected the same here after this shorter slider. I would recommend to add a circle in between and make a pattern like this: http://puu.sh/vDsiN/98f963d782.jpg So you have that pattern going.Actually, I think for a long time,because the Original version i added the note. clear
Cute mapset
Topic Starter
By ObilivioN's wrote
[quote="Desperate-kun"]
[Normal]
00:28:877 (2,3) - This larger gap in rhythms sounds weird, because you had denser rhythms before and there isn't really anything different in the song. I would expect a similar rhythm to 00:20:655 (1,2,3) - or atleast have that gap filled up with a note at 00:29:099 -
adding a circle at 00:29:099 sounds weird , so I moved it to 00:29:321 .Hoping newbies can understand that. lol
00:33:099 - to 00:43:766 - It's unfortunate you mapped this section as dense as the other sections around it. The song is reducing the density a lot here and the other difficulties (like Easy or Hard) reflected that well with the intensity of the map. I would recommend you to avoid having a lot of 1/2-rhythms here.
yah, they did. But the Normal was mapped by me, without any restriction of guideline or rule, I think these rhythms are good for me, rather than following other mapper's diff or mind.
00:49:099 - It feels awkward that this diff is the only one with that break here. It's a very intense buildup to the chorus so a break doesn't seem fitting.
well, I think some break time for newbies to adjust location(？) of cursor is not bad idea.
01:24:655 (2,3,1,2,3) - In this part, the intensity and pace of the song increases significantly again, so it feels weird to have such low density rhythms. I would recommend to add some 1/2 in this part, to make it reflect the song better.
It is the ending-part of this song, and increases rhythms will make people have a misconception，like another Kiai time.
[Normal]
00:28:877 (2,3) - This larger gap in rhythms sounds weird, because you had denser rhythms before and there isn't really anything different in the song. I would expect a similar rhythm to 00:20:655 (1,2,3) - or atleast have that gap filled up with a note at 00:29:099 -
adding a circle at 00:29:099 sounds weird , so I moved it to 00:29:321 .Hoping newbies can understand that. lol00:33:099 - to 00:43:766 - It's unfortunate you mapped this section as dense as the other sections around it. The song is reducing the density a lot here and the other difficulties (like Easy or Hard) reflected that well with the intensity of the map. I would recommend you to avoid having a lot of 1/2-rhythms here.
yah, they did. But the Normal was mapped by me, without any restriction of guideline or rule, I think these rhythms are good for me, rather than following other mapper's diff or mind. 00:49:099 - It feels awkward that this diff is the only one with that break here. It's a very intense buildup to the chorus so a break doesn't seem fitting.
well, I think some break time for newbies to adjust location(？) of cursor is not bad idea. 01:24:655 (2,3,1,2,3) - In this part, the intensity and pace of the song increases significantly again, so it feels weird to have such low density rhythms. I would recommend to add some 1/2 in this part, to make it reflect the song better.
It is the ending-part of this song, and increases rhythms will make people have a misconception，like another Kiai time.reply
Pentori wrote:
hey! theres some stuff on karens diff that bothers me a bit
00:11:322 (1,1) - movement seems really awkward here, causes you drop off from the slider 00:11:322 (1) - too early yea
00:20:433 (1) - seems like the wrong sampleset? should be normal i think yea
00:22:211 (5) - 00:29:322 (6) - imo these would play a lot better as 2 circles, the drums are a lot more pronounced here while sliders like 00:18:655 (5) - only have the vocal it's a calm part so i wanted to make it simple, 2 circles would be too hard or too easy so the best way is using a slider here, it can emphasize 00:18:877 (1) - this beat and at the same time, it follows the vocals and drums, altho the slider tail isn't clikable, i think it doesn;t affect the main idea
00:32:877 (1,2,1) - you have the back and forths at 00:32:433 (1,2,1,2) - but then use a wide angle for 00:32:877 (1,2,1) . at this bpm it causes such an awkward transition
00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,1) - the jumps aren't placed all that well tbh, the instruments are grouped in the music as 00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1) - and 00:39:766 (2,1,2) - but the way it's mapped groups 00:39:544 (1,2) - together. putting the jump on the weaker beat 00:39:544 (1) - makes 00:39:766 (2) - feel really insignificant and doesnt make much sense cause its the same sounds as 00:39:099 (4,5,6,7) i don't agree, there is a group of special sound here 00:39:544 (1,2,1,2,1) - , it is stronger than the bacground drums
00:40:433 (2,3) - your previous rhythms mostly focused on the instruments, yet here u have the instruments on slider ends and are purely clicking vocals. you could've lead into a 1/2 slider at 00:40:211 (1) - and mapped clickable stuff from 00:40:544 - allowing u to follow the instruments i wanna keep the break here 00:40:211 (1) - it fit well with the music, but i agree that i shound't follow the vocals here so changed rhythm here
01:03:322 - aimod says this kiai is unsnapped but idk if thats a thing readded
01:19:099 (1,2,1) - again the flow changes drastically from back and forths 01:18:877 (1,2,1,2) - to the wide angle. ctrl g'ing this pattern would've made it a lot more intuitive to play, similar to how 01:17:099 (1,2,1,2,1) - plays this one isn't the hard because the overall flow is left->right 01:18:655 (2,1) - , wide angle is hard because players usually don't have enough time to read the angle but it is symmetrical here so it is easy for players to react
01:19:877 (4) - caught me when i first played it. you didn't normally obscure objects underneath sliders, so i dont see a reason to do it now yea
01:20:877 (1,2,1) - flow could also be thought out better i don't see any problems here tbh, i don't know how to explain but i think the flow is really fine...
01:21:099 (1,2) - 01:22:877 (1,2) - this abuses slider leniency too much tbh. you could argue it works to stress the sounds, except the sliders look too similar in length to sliders such as 01:20:099 (1) - which are 1/2 causing confusion it works to stress the sounds, also it is an expert diff, this kind of confusion is not really a confusion for players that are able to play it, and they are in different parts, when it comes to the calm part players would natually slowdown the cursor
01:21:544 (2,3,4) - and ye, you have different rhythms but same spacing gaps yea
01:26:433 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this goes from like 0 to 100. it feels like too much of a diff spike with no buildup whatsoever and causes the majority of people to fail but hey 01:26:433 (1,2,3,4) - this is 1/2, why would it be confusing? it's not a stream with a 0 to 100 gap...
i'd like to hear ur thoughts
hope you're fine with it
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wait
isn't this song called Aozora no Rhapsody
nobody's gonna find it if it's translated unless tags
but the title should be jp because vocals are jp
isn't this song called Aozora no Rhapsody
nobody's gonna find it if it's translated unless tags
but the title should be jp because vocals are jp
Monstrata quote
Monstrata wrote:
Just for clarification, the entire "modified hepburn romanization system" is meant for archival and documentation purposes. Actually, osu! doesn't follow the rules of the modified hepburn system that closely anyways.
This is just one set of rules for the modified hepburn system.
https://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/japanes ... 111215.pdf
Another published article on the modified hepburn ss=ystem can be found here:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1 ... 011.536751
For example, this is how one should approach the modified hepburn romanization:
As you can see, already the system seems to deviate from how we would normally romanize words anyways. アルミニウム is for example romanized as Aruminyumu instead of Aluminum or even (if you replaced katakana for its corresponding english sound) Aruminiumu. There are obscure rules that make sense in archival settings but the osu! database isn't set up to really accomodate that. As well, using these rules precisely only benefits researchers, and not people who just want to search up a song.
Anyways, that's my rant on the modified hepburn system. On to actually important stuff, "romanization" is not "translation". The purpose of romanizing something is to show a reader how to pronounce a word or phrase if they are unfamiliar with an alphabet. Someone who cannot read kanji would have absolutely no idea how to pronounce 青空. I mean show this to a person who could only read/write english and ask them to read it. What will they say? Yea, nothing, because they have no idea how the writing system works or how the character should be pronounced. The function of romanization is to put these characters into a writing system that the reader can actually read. You cannot read 青空 unless you know chinese, but you can read "Aozora" if you know English. Translating 青空 to Blue Sky doesn't tell you how to read/pronounce the kanji, so it's not a romanization, it's a translation.
Actually, regarding this, the official Ranking Criteria says that loan words should be expressed using romanisation from the official original language, so in the case of the example you brought up, "アルミニウム" would be written as "Aluminum" and not "Aruminyumu," since it's originally an English word.
What I take issue with is that "青空" needs to be romanised under its original language according to the Ranking Criteria rules; "青空" is Japanese in this context, so it should be romanised to "Aozora" and not "Blue Sky." This is why I believe the correct romanisation in this case should be "Aozora no Rhapsody," regardless of whether or not "RHAPSODY OF BLUE SKY" is the official English title.
tl;dr: Under the current Ranking Criteria rules, "RHAPSODY OF BLUE SKY" is an incorrect romanised title because "青空" is not being romanised from its intended language
alternatively you could just change the title to "RHAPSODY OF BLUE SKY" instead of using the Japanese title and that would probably be okay too lolRanking Criteria wrote:
Songs with Japanese titles must use the Modified Hepburn method of romanisation in the "Romanised Title" field. As a non-unicode field, long vowels such as "おう" and "うう" should be romanised into "ou" and "uu" to avoid macrons... Loan words should be expressed using romanisation from the original language. source
@Doormat
Another reason why osu doesn't actually follow proper romanization methods that closely anyways xD. But for good reason, as I said. This isn't an archive in the literal sense.
Another reason why osu doesn't actually follow proper romanization methods that closely anyways xD. But for good reason, as I said. This isn't an archive in the literal sense.
Aha, fair enough, but I'd still like clarification as to why we're going with the English title when it contradicts what the Ranking Criteria statesMonstrata wrote:
@Doormat
Another reason why osu doesn't actually follow proper romanization methods that closely anyways xD. But for good reason, as I said. This isn't an archive in the literal sense.
this was one of my main concerns thoKaren wrote:
Pentori wrote:
00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,1) - the jumps aren't placed all that well tbh, the instruments are grouped in the music as 00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1) - and 00:39:766 (2,1,2) - but the way it's mapped groups 00:39:544 (1,2) - together. putting the jump on the weaker beat 00:39:544 (1) - makes 00:39:766 (2) - feel really insignificant and doesnt make much sense cause its the same sounds as 00:39:099 (4,5,6,7) i don't agree, there is a group of special sound here 00:39:544 (1,2,1,2,1) - , it is stronger than the bacground drums
i hear the sounds you're talking about but i definitely dont think its stronger.. the sound on 00:39:766 (2) - is so much more intuitive to follow and is what ppl will listen out for. keep it if you must, i don't really want to keep repeating myself[]
00:40:211 (1,2) - might want to swap ncs, consistency with 00:43:766 (6,1)
rest im ok with
I need some time resting from my exhausting exams and digesting you guys' words, so please give me some time before pushing the map forward and I have let the map creator know about this.
Without reading any discussions, I have the tendency to allow a little more choices for creators before the implementation of the new metadata ranking criteria, because that is basically the conclusion of me consulting the metadata rcc dudes and yes, the current ranking criteria is very absurd and obsolete on many concepts.
Will be back tomorrow.Never successfully disappear from this game during my leave, help.
Without reading any discussions, I have the tendency to allow a little more choices for creators before the implementation of the new metadata ranking criteria, because that is basically the conclusion of me consulting the metadata rcc dudes and yes, the current ranking criteria is very absurd and obsolete on many concepts.
Will be back tomorrow.Never successfully disappear from this game during my leave, help.
fixed both!
update
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First of all, the whole essence of the current metadata trend in this game is following everything official. This principle applies to every field. The only exception is Source, as there is only one field regarding Source and we treat this as Unicode and Romanised Source sharing the same field.
For example,
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/193712 (Romanised title)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/531426 (Preferred Romanised Title)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/371118 (Official Romanised Source)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/460893 (Romanised Artist)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/404283 (Translated title)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/551271 (Translated title)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/561762 (Not even translated title)
So, forcing the usage of official translated title is simply applying the principle above.
There are many more maps, mostly songs from video game, using translated title in the Romanised Title field. And interestingly, it was firstly adopted by some non-Japanese speaking map creators. They think this approach makes them easier to identify the song by completely following what the official has stated in various official soundtrack. The QAT found it reasonable and it works perfectly well with the officiality principle. Therefore, nature of the romanised fields has already been adjusted to using non-unicode characters to express song title and artist since then, of course official ones always prevail the unofficial ones.
https://www.facebook.com/fhanamusic/pos ... 5312923146
https://www.facebook.com/fhanamusic/pos ... 9611025716
Last but not least, the ranking criteria is indeed very outdated in this sense.
So, let's do this, before we implement a new one, we allow flexibility. Map creator can choose which to use for their map. However, if the community afterwards reaches a consensus of allowing both unofficial romanised title and official translated title, we should probably reconsider the significance of the No. 1 metadata rule again.
Furthermore, from my point of view, the conflict of the naming of the field and the principle is going to last long if nothing is done to adjust the name of the field and every time people can bring up the definition of romanisation and Japanese can argue romanisation is how the words are pronounced and read. Probably I should seek for a rename and (also adding another "romanised" field of source).
@Kamiya, you are free to use Rhapsody of Blue Sky or Aozora no Rhapsody as the Romanised Title for now.
For example,
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/193712 (Romanised title)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/531426 (Preferred Romanised Title)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/371118 (Official Romanised Source)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/460893 (Romanised Artist)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/404283 (Translated title)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/551271 (Translated title)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/561762 (Not even translated title)
So, forcing the usage of official translated title is simply applying the principle above.
There are many more maps, mostly songs from video game, using translated title in the Romanised Title field. And interestingly, it was firstly adopted by some non-Japanese speaking map creators. They think this approach makes them easier to identify the song by completely following what the official has stated in various official soundtrack. The QAT found it reasonable and it works perfectly well with the officiality principle. Therefore, nature of the romanised fields has already been adjusted to using non-unicode characters to express song title and artist since then, of course official ones always prevail the unofficial ones.
Thus, back to this case, priority of official material is always higher than the unofficial one. Additionally, fhana uses "Rhapsody of Blue Sky" to identify the track instead of "Aozora no Rhapsody", that's why I made a conclusion that the translated title has to be used in the Romanised Title field.[[Pika]] wrote:
wait
isn't this song called Aozora no Rhapsody
nobody's gonna find it if it's translated unless tags
but the title should be jp because vocals are jp
https://www.facebook.com/fhanamusic/pos ... 5312923146
https://www.facebook.com/fhanamusic/pos ... 9611025716
Last but not least, the ranking criteria is indeed very outdated in this sense.
So, let's do this, before we implement a new one, we allow flexibility. Map creator can choose which to use for their map. However, if the community afterwards reaches a consensus of allowing both unofficial romanised title and official translated title, we should probably reconsider the significance of the No. 1 metadata rule again.
Furthermore, from my point of view, the conflict of the naming of the field and the principle is going to last long if nothing is done to adjust the name of the field and every time people can bring up the definition of romanisation and Japanese can argue romanisation is how the words are pronounced and read. Probably I should seek for a rename and (also adding another "romanised" field of source).
I would like to clarify something here too, the English Title they used is nowhere to be found official, unless I missed out something on the web. The creator did not provide any official references when I asked for one either. This is the fundamental difference between these two cases.Doormat wrote:
i'd like to present a previous discussion regarding the use of an official English title vs. the Romanisation title from a previous mapset; for convenience, here's the actual post that Kwan makes regarding whether to use the English title or the Romanised title: t/467414/start=131
@Kamiya, you are free to use Rhapsody of Blue Sky or Aozora no Rhapsody as the Romanised Title for now.
Ahh, I think I understand now. Thanks for clearing things up, Kwan!
if you use rhapsody of blue sky can you add aozora no to tags so people can search aozora no rhapsody?
Topic Starter
ok~ i'll useNaotoshi wrote:
if you use rhapsody of blue sky can you add aozora no to tags so people can search aozora no rhapsody?
lets try again
Topic Starter
thank you~Kibbleru wrote:
lets try again
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