qualified
thank you so much~!!!Kibbleru wrote:
qualified
哇,是Rika 。Kawayi Rika wrote:
脆脆的 KANNA ~ 恭喜
It has been confirmed.Gaia wrote:
i thought we were still waiting for confirmation on the romanised title though? ;/
whereSotarks wrote:
It has been confirmed.
i linked it hundred times, and got the confirmation by kwan on twitter and discordGaia wrote:
whereSotarks wrote:
It has been confirmed.
Desperate-kun wrote:
Additionally to what Pentori mentioned about the highest difficulty, I'd like to add some thoughts on other difficulties:
[Easy]
I don't really understand the NCing in this diff. Most of the time it seems like it follows the patterning, like 00:13:544 (1,2) - , but then for example 00:45:544 (3) - is not NCd.. and many other places like that. Also some of the combos seem really short, like 01:15:766 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - . I think this diff would benefit from a simple, consistent comboing on every second big white tick, or something similar to that.NC remap complete
The same problem applies to the Hard difficulty, too.
00:49:099 (1,1) - 00:53:544 (4,1) - etc.remap cpmplete
These overlaps don't seem like a good idea, because the tails from both sliders are overlapping a lot. More straight-forward readable patterns like http://puu.sh/vDqY9/2e9bbd4045.jpg will be better for newbies and also help the aesthetic.
[Hard]
00:13:988 (3) - This slidershape feels out of place in between all the curved ones here. Since all the sounds 00:13:655 (2,3,4,5) - are the same, it would be best to have the same slidershape copy-pasted, for example in a rotational pattern like that: http://puu.sh/vDrPN/6faaff13d4.jpgAlthough I did't modify the image like your EX..but I fixed the problem
01:26:877 (4,1) - The jump between these seems really big compared to other jumps in this map. It would be nice if you could move 01:27:321 (1,2) - more downwards. Its clear
[Insane]
01:04:322 (4,5) - The gap between these objects reads like a 1/4-gap for me, because 01:03:322 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern has these 1/4-gaps with very big spacings in between, so I expected the same here after this shorter slider. I would recommend to add a circle in between and make a pattern like this: http://puu.sh/vDsiN/98f963d782.jpg So you have that pattern going.Actually, I think for a long time,because the Original version i added the note. clear
Cute mapset Though I feel like it needs these improvements. Good luck!
Pentori wrote:
hey! theres some stuff on karens diff that bothers me a bit
00:11:322 (1,1) - movement seems really awkward here, causes you drop off from the slider 00:11:322 (1) - too early yea
00:20:433 (1) - seems like the wrong sampleset? should be normal i think yea
00:22:211 (5) - 00:29:322 (6) - imo these would play a lot better as 2 circles, the drums are a lot more pronounced here while sliders like 00:18:655 (5) - only have the vocal it's a calm part so i wanted to make it simple, 2 circles would be too hard or too easy so the best way is using a slider here, it can emphasize 00:18:877 (1) - this beat and at the same time, it follows the vocals and drums, altho the slider tail isn't clikable, i think it doesn;t affect the main idea
00:32:877 (1,2,1) - you have the back and forths at 00:32:433 (1,2,1,2) - but then use a wide angle for 00:32:877 (1,2,1) . at this bpm it causes such an awkward transition something like http://puu.sh/vD4cF/70a26dbf6f.jpg is much smoother to play and follows the same flow idea while still giving emphasis omg that's too hard, tried another pattern
00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,1) - the jumps aren't placed all that well tbh, the instruments are grouped in the music as 00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1) - and 00:39:766 (2,1,2) - but the way it's mapped groups 00:39:544 (1,2) - together. putting the jump on the weaker beat 00:39:544 (1) - makes 00:39:766 (2) - feel really insignificant and doesnt make much sense cause its the same sounds as 00:39:099 (4,5,6,7) i don't agree, there is a group of special sound here 00:39:544 (1,2,1,2,1) - , it is stronger than the bacground drums
00:40:433 (2,3) - your previous rhythms mostly focused on the instruments, yet here u have the instruments on slider ends and are purely clicking vocals. you could've lead into a 1/2 slider at 00:40:211 (1) - and mapped clickable stuff from 00:40:544 - allowing u to follow the instruments i wanna keep the break here 00:40:211 (1) - it fit well with the music, but i agree that i shound't follow the vocals here so changed rhythm here
01:03:322 - aimod says this kiai is unsnapped but idk if thats a thing readded
01:19:099 (1,2,1) - again the flow changes drastically from back and forths 01:18:877 (1,2,1,2) - to the wide angle. ctrl g'ing this pattern would've made it a lot more intuitive to play, similar to how 01:17:099 (1,2,1,2,1) - plays this one isn't the hard because the overall flow is left->right 01:18:655 (2,1) - , wide angle is hard because players usually don't have enough time to read the angle but it is symmetrical here so it is easy for players to react
01:19:877 (4) - caught me when i first played it. you didn't normally obscure objects underneath sliders, so i dont see a reason to do it now yea
01:20:877 (1,2,1) - flow could also be thought out better i don't see any problems here tbh, i don't know how to explain but i think the flow is really fine...
01:21:099 (1,2) - 01:22:877 (1,2) - this abuses slider leniency too much tbh. you could argue it works to stress the sounds, except the sliders look too similar in length to sliders such as 01:20:099 (1) - which are 1/2 causing confusion it works to stress the sounds, also it is an expert diff, this kind of confusion is not really a confusion for players that are able to play it, and they are in different parts, when it comes to the calm part players would natually slowdown the cursor
01:21:544 (2,3,4) - and ye, you have different rhythms but same spacing gaps yea
01:26:433 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this goes from like 0 to 100. it feels like too much of a diff spike with no buildup whatsoever and causes the majority of people to fail but hey 01:26:433 (1,2,3,4) - this is 1/2, why would it be confusing? it's not a stream with a 0 to 100 gap...
i'd like to hear ur thoughts
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Monstrata wrote:
Just for clarification, the entire "modified hepburn romanization system" is meant for archival and documentation purposes. Actually, osu! doesn't follow the rules of the modified hepburn system that closely anyways.
This is just one set of rules for the modified hepburn system.
https://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/japanes ... 111215.pdf
Another published article on the modified hepburn ss=ystem can be found here:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1 ... 011.536751
For example, this is how one should approach the modified hepburn romanization:
As you can see, already the system seems to deviate from how we would normally romanize words anyways. アルミニウム is for example romanized as Aruminyumu instead of Aluminum or even (if you replaced katakana for its corresponding english sound) Aruminiumu. There are obscure rules that make sense in archival settings but the osu! database isn't set up to really accomodate that. As well, using these rules precisely only benefits researchers, and not people who just want to search up a song.
Anyways, that's my rant on the modified hepburn system. On to actually important stuff, "romanization" is not "translation". The purpose of romanizing something is to show a reader how to pronounce a word or phrase if they are unfamiliar with an alphabet. Someone who cannot read kanji would have absolutely no idea how to pronounce 青空. I mean show this to a person who could only read/write english and ask them to read it. What will they say? Yea, nothing, because they have no idea how the writing system works or how the character should be pronounced. The function of romanization is to put these characters into a writing system that the reader can actually read. You cannot read 青空 unless you know chinese, but you can read "Aozora" if you know English. Translating 青空 to Blue Sky doesn't tell you how to read/pronounce the kanji, so it's not a romanization, it's a translation.
alternatively you could just change the title to "RHAPSODY OF BLUE SKY" instead of using the Japanese title and that would probably be okay too lolRanking Criteria wrote:
Songs with Japanese titles must use the Modified Hepburn method of romanisation in the "Romanised Title" field. As a non-unicode field, long vowels such as "おう" and "うう" should be romanised into "ou" and "uu" to avoid macrons... Loan words should be expressed using romanisation from the original language. source
Aha, fair enough, but I'd still like clarification as to why we're going with the English title when it contradicts what the Ranking Criteria statesMonstrata wrote:
@Doormat
Another reason why osu doesn't actually follow proper romanization methods that closely anyways xD. But for good reason, as I said. This isn't an archive in the literal sense.
this was one of my main concerns tho i hear the sounds you're talking about but i definitely dont think its stronger.. the sound on 00:39:766 (2) - is so much more intuitive to follow and is what ppl will listen out for. keep it if you must, i don't really want to keep repeating myselfKaren wrote:
Pentori wrote:
00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,1) - the jumps aren't placed all that well tbh, the instruments are grouped in the music as 00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1) - and 00:39:766 (2,1,2) - but the way it's mapped groups 00:39:544 (1,2) - together. putting the jump on the weaker beat 00:39:544 (1) - makes 00:39:766 (2) - feel really insignificant and doesnt make much sense cause its the same sounds as 00:39:099 (4,5,6,7) i don't agree, there is a group of special sound here 00:39:544 (1,2,1,2,1) - , it is stronger than the bacground drums
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143,74,78655,2,0,P|90:89|21:68,1,100,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
212,171,78877,5,0,1:0:0:0:
310,152,78988,1,0,1:0:0:0:
212,171,79099,5,8,1:0:0:0:
310,152,79211,1,8,1:0:0:0:
387,275,79322,6,0,P|330:251|289:254,1,100,6|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
17,231,79544,2,0,P|61:209|111:209,1,100,6|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,369,79766,1,0,1:0:0:0:
195,270,79877,1,0,1:0:0:0:
212,171,79988,1,0,1:0:0:0:
302,27,80099,6,0,P|207:59|92:4,1,200,2|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
302,27,80433,2,0,P|243:66|206:68,1,100,2|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
113,141,80655,5,0,1:0:0:0:
116,240,80766,1,0,1:0:0:0:
201,189,80877,5,0,1:0:0:0:
204,288,80988,1,0,1:0:0:0:
115,344,81099,6,0,L|339:320,1,180.000006866455,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
472,344,81544,2,0,L|248:320,1,180.000006866455,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
301,185,81988,2,0,P|315:126|300:66,1,120.000004577637,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,266,82433,1,0,1:0:0:0:
37,132,82655,1,0,0:0:0:0:
37,132,82766,1,0,0:0:0:0:
37,132,82877,6,0,B|98:110|98:110|214:125,1,180.000006866455,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
387,132,83322,2,0,B|326:110|326:110|210:125,1,180.000006866455,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
147,220,83766,1,0,1:0:0:0:
282,224,83988,1,0,0:0:0:0:
147,220,84211,5,0,1:0:0:0:
156,266,84322,1,0,1:0:0:0:
282,224,84433,5,0,1:0:0:0:
269,270,84544,1,0,1:0:0:0:
217,356,84655,6,0,P|277:322|354:341,1,136.000002593994,0|8,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
512,251,85099,2,0,L|364:238,1,136.000002593994,0|8,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
433,84,85433,1,0,1:0:0:0:
433,84,85544,6,0,L|442:163,1,68.0000012969971,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
269,270,85766,2,0,L|276:202,1,68.0000012969971,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
447,258,85988,2,0,L|368:267,1,68.0000012969971,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
261,94,86210,2,0,L|328:101,1,68.0000012969971,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
497,112,86433,5,0,1:0:0:0:
309,3,86655,1,8,1:0:0:0:
196,189,86877,1,0,1:0:0:0:
384,300,87099,1,8,1:0:0:0:
381,334,87211,1,0,1:0:0:0:
364,219,87322,5,0,1:0:0:0:
275,144,87433,1,0,1:0:0:0:
159,136,87544,1,0,1:0:0:0:
91,229,87655,1,0,1:0:0:0:
181,280,87766,5,8,1:0:0:0:
140,139,87877,1,8,1:0:0:0:
0,179,87988,1,8,1:0:0:0:
39,319,88099,1,8,1:0:0:0:
256,192,88655,6,2,L|256:128,1,64,2|0,1:0|0:0,1:0:0:0:
Thus, back to this case, priority of official material is always higher than the unofficial one. Additionally, fhana uses "Rhapsody of Blue Sky" to identify the track instead of "Aozora no Rhapsody", that's why I made a conclusion that the translated title has to be used in the Romanised Title field.[[Pika]] wrote:
wait
isn't this song called Aozora no Rhapsody
nobody's gonna find it if it's translated unless tags
but the title should be jp because vocals are jp
I would like to clarify something here too, the English Title they used is nowhere to be found official, unless I missed out something on the web. The creator did not provide any official references when I asked for one either. This is the fundamental difference between these two cases.Doormat wrote:
i'd like to present a previous discussion regarding the use of an official English title vs. the Romanisation title from a previous mapset; for convenience, here's the actual post that Kwan makes regarding whether to use the English title or the Romanised title: t/467414/start=131
ok~ i'll useNaotoshi wrote:
if you use rhapsody of blue sky can you add aozora no to tags so people can search aozora no rhapsody?
thank you~Kibbleru wrote:
lets try again