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Top 50 All Modes Players (Sorted by Cumulative PP)

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Edgar_Figaro
So I know that there is already the OsuDaily! site which is great as it adds up the top players and sees cumulative PP. Only problem is it doesn't necessarily denote whether a player plays all the modes, 3, 2, or only 1 proficiently. So what I have done here is looking through the list on OsuDaily! Sorted out the top 50 players who met the following Criteria.

No Mode PP ≥ 50% of Total PP (This rules out people who are a single mode specialist)
No Mode PP ≤ 10% of Total PP (This rules out people who are 2 or 3 mode players)


Edit:Ok so after talking with some people I came to realize there is a better way this could be done to be more fair and have less arbitary cutoff values. With this formula the closer the 4 modes are together the closer to achieving 100% of the raw straight add PP while the further separated the more penalized. One will never lose PP by gaining PP, just gaining PP in top mode will give small incremental increase while gaining PP in lowest mode increases it by more.

New Formula for calulating top 50: (Standard PP + Taiko PP + CTB PP + Mania PP) - (Standard Deviation*2) = Cumulative PP

Note that the PP reflected by peoples names will now show this evaluated value and not just a straight add of their PP.

I'll probably update this list once a month.



List Updated 9-9-2017
Yuudachi-kun
I have 16,457 without taiko. I think I'm at like 1k taiko so rip just need 600 more if I ever want to play it haha never
N0thingSpecial
go back to stepmania
Yuudachi-kun

N0thingSpecial wrote:

go back to stepmania
tkdLolly
Where is Runa

Also, as a mathsy person, cumulative pp is not the best way to sort players, since, as a clear example, mania can easily grant double the pp as compared to other modes. Discrepancies in pp can be found across the other three modes as well.

If you could spare some time, something like calculating the average rank or even standard deviation would be better, although I'm entirely unsure how you can obtain the data to do so.

Just a thought, but again, I don't think cumulative pp is the best way to sort players. :roll: I'll come back when I have more ideas :idea:
Topic Starter
Edgar_Figaro

tkdLolly wrote:

Where is Runa
Runa isn't on this list as they fail the 2nd requirement of having at least 10% of their total PP in each mode (they barely have any in CTB).

While yes I do know that PP isn't equal across modes, playerbase across modes is also not equal so neither really works well. There are far more standard players than Taiko or CTB. Also the DT change to Mania did really throw the entire cumulative rankings on dawnglare Osu completely out of whack. Partially why I decided to create this list as currently the #1 on DawnGlare is Jakads who has more than 28K PP in Mania, same goes for a large number of the top 100 on dawnglare who are just high ranked mania players and not really all-modes players.
tkdLolly

Edgar_Figaro wrote:

tkdLolly wrote:

Where is Runa
Runa isn't on this list as they fail the 2nd requirement of having at least 10% of their total PP in each mode (they barely have any in CTB).

While yes I do know that PP isn't equal across modes, playerbase across modes is also not equal so neither really works well. There are far more standard players than Taiko or CTB. Also the DT change to Mania did really throw the entire cumulative rankings on dawnglare Osu completely out of whack. Partially why I decided to create this list as currently the #1 on DawnGlare is Jakads who has more than 28K PP in Mania, same goes for a large number of the top 100 on dawnglare who are just high ranked mania players.
The 10% requirement is quite arbitrary, but I guess is reasonable if you really want 'all modes' players, also to take out a bunch of mania players... but they are bound to have an advantage.

I don't think playerbase should be a concern because it's the player's choice to not play a mode...

Well, to be fair, again, standard deviation would completely trash the rankings Runa and other mania players, if possible at all :? still seems like the most reasonable yet unfeasible option to me :?
Yuzeyun

Yuudachi-kun wrote:

N0thingSpecial wrote:

go back to stepmania
>getting so angry you become a d6-d7 player
is this your secret to becoming good
Yuudachi-kun
Getting mad at stepmania is for bad people.

Also I have like 10 d7 aa's at this point :roll:
Yuzeyun

Yuudachi-kun wrote:

Getting mad at stepmania is for bad people.
shame would like to talk
Yuudachi-kun

Unmei Muma wrote:

Yuudachi-kun wrote:

Getting mad at stepmania is for bad people.
shame would like to talk
Getting mad is one of the most unproductive and worst things you can do in regards to enjoy game. It's bad.
Endaris
Wouldn't it make more sense to look at the playtime per gamemode?
I mean you should know very well that getting to 2000pp in Taiko is more or less gifted and there's at least one person on your list that has less than 50h playtime in Taiko but still makes your arbitrary 10% cut.
tkdLolly

Endaris wrote:

Wouldn't it make more sense to look at the playtime per gamemode?
I mean you should know very well that getting to 2000pp in Taiko is more or less gifted and there's at least one person on your list that has less than 50h playtime in Taiko but still makes your arbitrary 10% cut.
yay I'm gifted (´・ω・`)

It does make more sense, I agree, and in the 9.68M alleged players there are, there are bound to be some who can play very well with little time, and those who can't play very well even with a lot of time - not too sure how to handle that.

Standard devi-(shut up
Topic Starter
Edgar_Figaro
Yeah no system I could make would be perfect. I mean I play all the gamemodes but I know that I have put more time into some modes then others but this does not necessarily reflect my PP in each mode. Now some might be chocked up to some modes giving more PP but also alot has to do with abillity in certain skills. Standard & CTB have far less peformance points for me than Taiko & Mania and this isn't due to lack of trying in Standard or CTB. Both Standard & CTB have an aim based component which I am very bad at. Taiko & Mania require no aim and so better suit to my skills. The entire arbitrary 10% is meant to allow for people to be better at one mode than another while still show that they do actually play the mode some.

I mean if I wanted to do a play time type of metric I could just do some weird list that is top 50 players by PP that have Jack of All Trades achievement. I guess I could do it that way...
J_8579
Respect to anyone with 2k+ pp on every mode.
Topic Starter
Edgar_Figaro
List updated and formula changed to reflect a (hopefully) more balanced approach to calculating the top 50 all-rouinders
Drum Decimator

F1r3tar wrote:

Respect to anyone with 2k+ pp on every mode.
;)
P.S. please update
Topic Starter
Edgar_Figaro

Jaye wrote:

F1r3tar wrote:

Respect to anyone with 2k+ pp on every mode.
;)
P.S. please update
Plan on updating it again in first week of June. Glad to see there are people who like this alternative ranking list.

P.S. I don't really know how to code or anything like that, but if anyone could help me to make this more automatic I'd probably have it update more often. It takes quite a lot of time to input all the top players updating stats into my calculations and figure out who the top 50 cumulative are (with deviation formula)
Topic Starter
Edgar_Figaro
Hey I know bumping a thread needlessly is not wanted, but I did just update the info in the OP yet that doesn't trigger a bump and I want people to know that's it's been updated. I apologize to mods if this is not wanted.
mulraf
what's the deviation part? oO
i'm surprised juankristal didn't make it on the list, he's not only good at cursing but also at playing :o
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