toby fox vs. Ferdk - Battle Against a True Hero · forum

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Izzywing 2017-02-21T03:03:22+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 6:09:19 PM

Artist: toby fox vs. Ferdk
Title: Battle Against a True Hero
Source: UNDERTALE
Tags: Veus metal undyne undying genocide boss vgm soundtrack theme Realazy Mentai CraEZy Gabe
BPM: 150
Filesize: 10164kb
Play Time: 02:05
Difficulties Available:

CraEZy's Easy (1.38 stars, 102 notes)
Gabe's Hard (3.14 stars, 280 notes)
Genocide (5.91 stars, 585 notes)
Insane (4.12 stars, 509 notes)
Mentai's Normal (1.99 stars, 189 notes)
Real's Extra (5.05 stars, 572 notes)

Download: toby fox vs. Ferdk - Battle Against a True Hero
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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The metal half vs. The in-game half

Easy by CraEZy
Normal by Mentai
Hard by Gabe
Extra by Realazy
Hitsounding / Keysounding by Touhou
Background by Palidoozy

Last edited by Izzywing 2018-03-08T23:09:32+00:00, edited 51 times in total.

Touhou

201 posts

Joined January 2014

Touhou 2017-03-11T01:07:02+00:00

Hi, instead of offering a mod I did the hitsounds for this.
Good luck!

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,251 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Izzywing 2017-06-15T05:39:34+00:00

Will revive this when I redo the the first kiai. Update will also include the insane.

Edit: redid the whole thing

Naoise

36 posts

Joined July 2017

Naoise 2017-11-19T13:03:11+00:00

UNRANKABLE TIME
ok, the first diff is 2* (wow star rating just low enough to rank)
the next is 4.12
that will cause a problem with the difficulty spread. You have to make another diff (~2.75-3.25*?). Nerfing the higher diffs can work, but i doubt if you want to nerf it.

edit: oh u are a bn so u already know

Last edited by Naoise 2017-11-19T13:22:44+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

jeanbernard8865

600 posts

Joined December 2014

jeanbernard8865 2017-11-19T13:14:27+00:00

^ spread isnt dictated by sr

blobdash

912 posts

Joined April 2016

blobdash 2017-11-19T13:14:54+00:00

Sliderr wrote:
UNRANKABLE TIME
ok, the first diff is 2* (wow star rating just low enough to rank)
the next is 4.12
that will cause a problem with the difficulty spread. You have to make another diff (~2.75-3.25*?). Nerfing the higher diffs can work, but i doubt if you want to nerf it.

the set isn't even finished wtf

Naoise

36 posts

Joined July 2017

Naoise 2017-11-19T13:32:27+00:00

AyanokoRin wrote:
^ spread isnt dictated by sr

FruityEnLoops wrote:
the set isn't even finished wtf

oh ok
i thought it was finished

jas

542 posts

Joined August 2016

jas 2017-12-08T20:25:57+00:00

whoops

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osu file format v14

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245,69,120800,2,0,L|110:75,1,135,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
70,204,122000,2,0,L|204:197,1,135,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,189,123200,6,0,B|410:183|410:183|449:183|474:205,1,135,6|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
491,335,124400,1,6,0:0:0:0:
410,294,124800,1,6,0:0:0:0:
338,348,125200,1,6,0:0:0:0:
256,310,125600,6,0,B|218:246|257:181|257:181|296:120|256:55,2,270,6|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

i think all you have to do is add my name in the tags and maybe fix some hitsounding but idk

i hope it isnt too bad

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Izzywing

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Topic Starter

Izzywing 2017-12-08T22:29:09+00:00

Thanks! Gabe is working on his diff so we'll move to pending when it's done.

Dashyy-

752 posts

Joined May 2015

Dashyy- 2017-12-29T15:26:00+00:00

hi m4m!!

easy:
00:43:800 (3,1) - could confuse a newer player with this pattern because they might be more inclined to hit the slider tail. i would suggest making a clearer path for this slider
00:51:200 (1) - you should avoid making weird sliders like this in easies. the other two were fine since they could be played by moving in a linear direction. but this slider is way too confusing as it changes direction a little over halfway through
same with 01:00:800 (1,2,1) -
01:07:200 (1) - this iis definitely a no
01:20:000 (1) - touching the hp bar
rhythm is fine. just gotta work on structure a bit more

normal:
got a bunch of unsnapped objects in the beginning:
00:00:300 - Slider repeat
00:00:900 - Circle
00:01:900 - Slider repeat
00:02:500 - Circle
00:03:500 - Slider repeat
00:04:100 - Circle
00:05:100 - Slider repeat
00:05:700 - Circle
00:17:900 - Slider repeat

1.5 sv? on a normal? a bit too hard tbh

insane:
00:30:000 (5,6) - i feel like movement here is a bit too strict compared to the comfortable flow you were using earlier. if you want to keep the pattern, you could just ctrl+g 5

extra:
00:21:100 (2,3) - spacing here is a higher than the other jumps. would suggest keeping consistent and lowering the spacing down a bit
01:58:400 (1,2) - another random high spaced jump ^

genocide:
00:28:400 (4,5) - would be nice if these were more consistent with the other patterns like 00:22:000 (4,5) - and 00:26:800 (2,3) - . rn, it looks sloppy and uncomfortable compared to the nice flow jumps u were using earlier
01:09:200 (3,4) - remove this overlap? seems ugly compared to the other overlaps you were using at 01:08:600 (4,1) - and 01:02:200 (4,1) -

i shouldn't be writing mods 30 minutes after waking up

delusional

144 posts

Joined January 2017

delusional 2018-02-19T09:44:45+00:00

Mod from ya favorite ballsack meme boy

Quick IRC about

Genocide

23:10 unappreciative: Hobbes posting in #modreqs
23:10 Hobbes2: agreed
23:11 unappreciative: If I don't see a ballsack stream
23:14 unappreciative: is this meant to be an alt map?
23:15 Hobbes2: yes
23:17 unappreciative: 01:48:500 (7,8,9) - this overlap 
23:18 unappreciative: on Genocide
23:19 Hobbes2: ye
23:20 unappreciative: Just bcz I'm new to mapping nd such and I want to get better
23:20 unappreciative: why...
23:20 unappreciative: that overlap feels like a guaranteed combo killer
23:21 Hobbes2: i mean
23:21 Hobbes2: its not hard to read is it
23:22 unappreciative: sort of imo
23:22 unappreciative: considering your patterns before this for singles don't overlap
23:24 Hobbes2: hmm
23:24 Hobbes2: i guess so
23:24 Hobbes2: ill see how i can change it then
23:24 unappreciative: an01:38:600 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - like this one before and 01:57:800 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - this one after
23:24 unappreciative: I mean you don't have to bcz it can also mean a change

CraEZy's Easy

00:45:600 (2) - Weird slider for new players. You should probably change them into Obtuse angles, as it allows newer players to read easier.
shown here, https://i.imgur.com/vN7Rvc7.png
00:48:000 (1) - this one too
00:51:200 (1) - ^^
00:58:400 (2) - oof
01:00:800 (1,1) - again

Everything else is pretty snazzy.

Mentai's Normal

01:20:000 (1,2,3) - This doesn't feel right, if you are mapping to the piano. Even though this is a Normal, I think you can get away with some repeating sliders to represent the piano to make it resonate with what you mapped below.
Maybe something like this: https://i.imgur.com/H0OpNlT.png
01:24:800 (1,2,3,1) - here as well.
Something like this may work: https://i.imgur.com/Enj1H2C.jpg

01:28:000 (2,3,1) - Really like this, but most of the stuff before it should be fixed if you're mapping to the piano.

Gabe's Hard

00:31:500 (3,4,5,6) - change to repeating slider owo, 3.16* doesn't need streams
Edit:Maybe like this; https://i.imgur.com/aPcQ5K8.png
00:44:300 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - this one too
owo: https://i.imgur.com/Z3yK6U5.png
01:18:800 (4) - add an inherited section at the end of this slider and lower volume to probably 15% as you keep the volume at a constant of 30% for most of the map. Remember to bring it back to 30% with an inherited section 01:19:600 (5) - here.
https://i.imgur.com/hIkyVKp.png

01:28:200 (1,2,3,1) - Really liked this transition
02:03:800 (2,3,4,1) - Nice D i a m o n d

Insane

00:29:400 (3,4,5,6) - *Foreshadows Genocide*

00:44:100 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - weird stream angle imo *Makes fun of DJHard's weird slider angle on stream*
Msged in IRC abt this ^ the stream angle is on purpose so it's fine
ur gud

Real's Extra

00:20:800 (1,2,3) - You would ideally need inhuman reflexes or be a hakkur to hit this. 2&3 closer to the ending of the 1st slider
00:30:700 (2,3,4,1) - found this hard to hit. Maybe it's just bcz I woke up.

nonetheless everything else looks good and feels good imo

end my 300 bpm suffering <3

Last edited by delusional 2018-02-19T21:02:08+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

MrKosiej

439 posts

Joined September 2015

MrKosiej 2018-02-19T13:20:42+00:00

Hi, m4m from my passive agressive roast queue.

Well, it won't be as much of a roast cuz it's actually a good set so gj on that.
But moving on to the mod

One thing general is that you added "metal" to the tags. I'm really not sure if that's metal. And i'm the leader of a metal osu clan. (remove maybe)

Genocide

1. Consistency matter, you don't have an nc here 00:06:000 (5) - but you do have it here 00:12:400 (1) - ??
Also i think you could do sth clever with spacing since both 00:05:700 (4,5) - and 00:12:100 (4,1) - are singificantly giher pitch and so should they have higher spacing. You kinda did it on first, but didn't do on the second one.

2. 00:31:500 (3,1,2) - That's a bit uniquely hard to play. If you could rotate it a bit, maybe like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10294258 which is 30 degrees to the right you'd get a much nicer flow and nicer aesthetics especially here 00:31:500 (3,1,2) - making a nice triangle. (i made it pretty rough, you'd get a nicer reasult if you play around with it a bit.)

3. If you changed the previous thing, i'll give you a possible idea on how to nicely resolve the next part. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10294269
basicaly copy paste 00:32:300 (3) - to the previous slider, move 00:32:200 (2) - above the second so it keeps the flow but also aesthetics.

4. Consistency matter again. 01:09:100 (2,3) - I began to rant about this, but actually i realized that it might be reasonable. 01:09:700 (1,2) - is more quiet than 01:09:100 (2,3) - so similar emphasize is not needed. Still mentioning cuz if it's intended, then good job.

5. Minor thing but 01:20:800 (3,1) - stack with tail. I actually see the overlap 01:21:200 (1,1) - so idk. Fix it if you want.

6. Readability thingy. 01:31:400 (4,6) - make them more spaced, It will be a lot more visible thus nicer to play. Sth like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10294349 would be great. 01:31:100 (2,3,5) - do the same, consistency duh.

7. 01:36:000 (3,4,5,6) - if you decided to change the previous.

8. !! U actually made them more spaced here 01:40:700 (2,3,5) - Now you have to change the previous ones.

9. 01:50:300 (2,3,5) - #_#

10. 01:55:400 (4,6) - That's not even looking nice, y u do dis. 01:59:900 (2,3,5) - that's acceptable but don't put them too close.

11. That's sth i wanted to write about, but i'm writing now, ok. 01:57:800 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - I think it might be too much (?) I was mapping nanahira the other day and did the same, but actually it feels out of place. Like it's just a fill up. What i would do, is to change 01:57:800 (4,5) - for a slider 01:57:600 (3) - copy paste prolly and make a nice follow up with 01:58:000 (6,7,8,9) - those four circles. U could do structured magic with sth like that. I really encourage you to go beyond what you think is good and make sth better.

12. Damn i wanted to end this diffs mod with the previous tip, but you juist had to make this imperfection 02:07:400 (7,8,9) - But i actually think that fixing the slider won't do the job. 02:06:600 (7,8,1,9) - this is just overlap on the beginner level. Messy and feels like a mistake. I'd sit down and think on how to remap the whole end starting from 02:06:800 - Cuz that circle is naah. It's not your level man, you can do better.

If you want my solution, it'd be maybe sliders with incrementing spacing. You did it 01:29:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here and it was a blast. Very nice emphasize. Maybe i'd use it on the end just less intense since it's not a kiai.

Real's attempt to map Extra diff

So you made an insane diff. Congrats. Now let's move on what you didn't get right, and how to improve it.

1. Consistency wise, 00:01:200 (1) - remove nc.

2. 00:05:700 (4,5) - Why are you guys not emphasizing the pitch change. I would, but it's rankable as it is rn i guess.

3. 00:06:400 (1,2) - same sounds, curvy sliders, 00:09:600 (1,2) - still good, consistent, 00:12:800 (1,2) - ?? 00:14:400 (1,2) - you just switched those up. Correct if you think it matters.

4. 00:31:500 (4,5) - Yeah, idk. It's a pretty trash playability. I mean, it looks the same as 01:09:100 (2,3,4,1) - but i couldn't hit at least once the first one. The second one plays better. Idk why tbh. It's worth mentioning tho.

5. 01:45:500 (2,6) - stack

6. 01:48:200 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - That's actually reeealy hard to hit. Ikr, "looks fiine, what you talking about man." I feel ya, i'd do the same. But listen! I played this map several times, and this moment is just a prolly no to go. It's a unique pattern that is not actually representing anything unique in the song. Thus it makes it really hard to feel the rhytm and play it correctly. Throughout the whole map, simialr moments were represented by sliders and stacks on them, eventually a follow up, 1/2 stream you might say. And now boom, 3 double stacks. Handle that. No i won't cuz it's bad. Fix this yo.

7. 02:00:600 (6,1) - Fix blanket. xd It's really funny saying that in a bn's map.

Hobbes' cute insane

1. 00:25:600 (1,2) - That's actually an imperfect blanket. Yes, hi, nazi blanket officer here.

2. 00:30:400 (1,7) - why not stack it with head. I think it'd be reasonable to do that. Nothing major, but looks that way better imo.

3. 01:31:100 (2,3,4,5,6) -Good morning class. I'm Mr Kosiej and today we're gonna talk about sliders.
Today we're gonna look at hobbes' actually good attempt at making overlaped sliders. In the genocide diff, he used two different methods but with the same flow. Circular one. Even tho he rotated each set of sliders by some degrees in the first pattern and didnt in the second, it's still the same circular flow thus the ds between overlaped objects should be the same, or really similar. In genocide he mashed them in second pattern creating a really hard to read thingy leading to playability problems.
Here, in his insane diff, we can see sth similar. But this time he didnt use circular flow on the first pattern 01:29:600 (1,2) - making those two patterns actually different ones so the ds might be different to distinguish two different things while keeping the consistency at the proper level. Good job, mr hobbes. Now go fix genocide.
TLDR: It's a reference to the genocide diff where i was ranting about sliders being too close even those similar were further apart. These are cool tho cuz different flow.

4. Yeah it's a pretty good diff.

Ok, that'd be about it. I don't mod lower diffs cuz i literally can't, nice higher ones, cool set. Cheers!

Mod my whispered map now thanks.

Realazy

Elite Mapper

1,004 posts

Joined June 2011

Realazy 2018-02-19T19:45:17+00:00

Dashyy- wrote:
extra:
01:58:400 (1,2) - another random high spaced jump ^ disagree, this last part of the kiai is the climax of the song, higher spacing is justified here

unappreciative wrote:
00:20:800 (1,2,3) - You would ideally need inhuman reflexes or be a hakkur to hit this. 2&3 closer to the ending of the 1st slider fixed with dashyy's mod
00:30:700 (2,3,4,1) - found this hard to hit. Maybe it's just bcz I woke up. i haven't had any problems with playing this, dunno

MrKosiej wrote:
2. 00:05:700 (4,5) - Why are you guys not emphasizing the pitch change. I would, but it's rankable as it is rn i guess. i haven't tried anywhere in that part to fit the pitch, i don't see why i should here

4. 00:31:500 (4,5) - Yeah, idk. It's a pretty trash playability. I mean, it looks the same as 01:09:100 (2,3,4,1) - but i couldn't hit at least once the first one. The second one plays better. Idk why tbh. It's worth mentioning tho. don't see why it plays bad,
and it's consistent with the rest of the map

5. 01:45:500 (2,6) - stack those are meant to be unstacked

6. 01:48:200 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - That's actually reeealy hard to hit. Ikr, "looks fiine, what you talking about man." I feel ya, i'd do the same. But listen! I played this map several times, and this moment is just a prolly no to go. It's a unique pattern that is not actually representing anything unique in the song. Thus it makes it really hard to feel the rhytm and play it correctly. Throughout the whole map, simialr moments were represented by sliders and stacks on them, eventually a follow up, 1/2 stream you might say. And now boom, 3 double stacks. Handle that. No i won't cuz it's bad. Fix this yo. actually i changed the last pattern to add more of those stacks since they emphasize particular sounds in the music that only happen at the end of each half of that second kiai, so there you go

7. 02:00:600 (6,1) - Fix blanket. xd It's really funny saying that in a bn's map. looks perfectly fine as is

updoot

Izzywing

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Topic Starter

Izzywing 2018-02-19T19:48:06+00:00

insane:
00:30:000 (5,6) - i feel like movement here is a bit too strict compared to the comfortable flow you were using earlier. if you want to keep the pattern, you could just ctrl+g 5 im confused, it seems fine

genocide:
00:28:400 (4,5) - would be nice if these were more consistent with the other patterns like 00:22:000 (4,5) - and 00:26:800 (2,3) - . rn, it looks sloppy and uncomfortable compared to the nice flow jumps u were using earlier eh, I think some variation in the movement is okay here just to keep things interesting. also idk how its sloppy its symmetry lol
01:09:200 (3,4) - remove this overlap? seems ugly compared to the other overlaps you were using at 01:08:600 (4,1) - and 01:02:200 (4,1) - looks okay to me

---

for MrKosiej, metal is in the tags because the FerdK part of the mashup is a metal version of the song.

1. Consistency matter, you don't have an nc here 00:06:000 (5) - but you do have it here 00:12:400 (1) - ??
Also i think you could do sth clever with spacing since both 00:05:700 (4,5) - and 00:12:100 (4,1) - are singificantly giher pitch and so should they have higher spacing. You kinda did it on first, but didn't do on the second one. Fixed

2. 00:31:500 (3,1,2) - That's a bit uniquely hard to play. If you could rotate it a bit, maybe like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10294258 which is 30 degrees to the right you'd get a much nicer flow and nicer aesthetics especially here 00:31:500 (3,1,2) - making a nice triangle. (i made it pretty rough, you'd get a nicer reasult if you play around with it a bit.) I agree it's hard to play but I don't think that's a bad thing. The movement emphasizes this well tbh and I would prefer to keep this. Also, it doesn't have much geometry with that triangle you mention but it still looks fine to me.

3. If you changed the previous thing, i'll give you a possible idea on how to nicely resolve the next part. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10294269
basicaly copy paste 00:32:300 (3) - to the previous slider, move 00:32:200 (2) - above the second so it keeps the flow but also aesthetics.

4. Consistency matter again. 01:09:100 (2,3) - I began to rant about this, but actually i realized that it might be reasonable. 01:09:700 (1,2) - is more quiet than 01:09:100 (2,3) - so similar emphasize is not needed. Still mentioning cuz if it's intended, then good job. yea you nailed it

5. Minor thing but 01:20:800 (3,1) - stack with tail. I actually see the overlap 01:21:200 (1,1) - so idk. Fix it if you want. im confused by this because nothing is actually stacking around here

6. Readability thingy. 01:31:400 (4,6) - make them more spaced, It will be a lot more visible thus nicer to play. Sth like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10294349 would be great. 01:31:100 (2,3,5) - do the same, consistency duh. yeah did this

7. 01:36:000 (3,4,5,6) - if you decided to change the previous. yeah

8. !! U actually made them more spaced here 01:40:700 (2,3,5) - Now you have to change the previous ones.

9. 01:50:300 (2,3,5) - #_#

10. 01:55:400 (4,6) - That's not even looking nice, y u do dis. 01:59:900 (2,3,5) - that's acceptable but don't put them too close. fixed all these c:

11. That's sth i wanted to write about, but i'm writing now, ok. 01:57:800 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - I think it might be too much (?) I was mapping nanahira the other day and did the same, but actually it feels out of place. Like it's just a fill up. What i would do, is to change 01:57:800 (4,5) - for a slider 01:57:600 (3) - copy paste prolly and make a nice follow up with 01:58:000 (6,7,8,9) - those four circles. U could do structured magic with sth like that. I really encourage you to go beyond what you think is good and make sth better. It actually used to be like that. But honestly I found it underwhelming to play and especially when you compare it to the circle dense patterns of the first half it made the second half feel lacking in comparison. So I think these streamy patterns work well here as a difficult build up to the start of the next sections.

12. Damn i wanted to end this diffs mod with the previous tip, but you juist had to make this imperfection 02:07:400 (7,8,9) - But i actually think that fixing the slider won't do the job. 02:06:600 (7,8,1,9) - this is just overlap on the beginner level. Messy and feels like a mistake. I'd sit down and think on how to remap the whole end starting from 02:06:800 - Cuz that circle is naah. It's not your level man, you can do better. The overlap is not actually visible in game. As a whole in the editor it may seem weird. But I think in game it looks fine. I could use sliders here uyes, but circles make for a more climactic ending as you have to actually land everything in thi stream. Makes a good finish imo.

If you want my solution, it'd be maybe sliders with incrementing spacing. You did it 01:29:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here and it was a blast. Very nice emphasize. Maybe i'd use it on the end just less intense since it's not a kiai.

Fixed the insane stuff.

Thank you for the mods.

Nevo

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Nevo 2018-02-21T21:19:24+00:00

welcome to my undertale walktrhough

CraEZy's Easy
00:14:400 (2) - this is offscreen

Genocide
00:31:300 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - this could be a 1/2 repeat then circles basically what you did at 00:37:700 (2,3,4,5,6) - I would leave 00:44:100 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - as it is since its the most intense of the 3
02:04:800 (3) - offscreen

:(

Izzywing

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Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Izzywing 2018-02-21T22:44:16+00:00

for the first point, i did the denser rhythm there since its the least of that first section before moving into the second 'loop' of the kiai, so it seemed like a good way to give it a climactic feel

for the off screen slider, I think a little part of the sliderborder goes offscreen barely, but i dont think thats unrankable. because of how structured the patterns are I'd have to pretty much remap parts of this to fix it properly lol, i nudged it as much as I could

jas

542 posts

Joined August 2016

jas 2018-02-21T22:56:24+00:00

Dashyy- wrote:
hi m4m!!

easy:
00:43:800 (3,1) - could confuse a newer player with this pattern because they might be more inclined to hit the slider tail. i would suggest making a clearer path for this slider i think this is fine, ar is slow enough for players to see it
00:51:200 (1) - you should avoid making weird sliders like this in easies. the other two were fine since they could be played by moving in a linear direction. but this slider is way too confusing as it changes direction a little over halfway through
same with 01:00:800 (1,2,1) - sure
01:07:200 (1) - this iis definitely a no yah whtever
01:20:000 (1) - touching the hp bar i think thts fine
rhythm is fine. just gotta work on structure a bit more egg

Nevo wrote:
welcome to my undertale walktrhough

CraEZy's Easy
00:14:400 (2) - this is offscreen damn

unappreciative wrote:
00:45:600 (2) - Weird slider for new players. You should probably change them into Obtuse angles, as it allows newer players to read easier.
shown here, https://i.imgur.com/vN7Rvc7.png
00:48:000 (1) - this one too
00:51:200 (1) - ^^
00:58:400 (2) - oof
01:00:800 (1,1) - again

i basically fixed everything here in dashyy's mod, i prob wouldve denied like everything if he didnt make me concerned ab movement

Everything else is pretty snazzy.

asdfadsfasdfasdf

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Mentai

472 posts

Joined June 2016

Mentai 2018-02-22T06:21:43+00:00

Dashyy- wrote:
normal:
got a bunch of unsnapped objects in the beginning: looks like hobbes fixed this in the meantime
00:00:300 - Slider repeat
00:00:900 - Circle
00:01:900 - Slider repeat
00:02:500 - Circle
00:03:500 - Slider repeat
00:04:100 - Circle
00:05:100 - Slider repeat
00:05:700 - Circle
00:17:900 - Slider repeat

1.5 sv? on a normal? a bit too hard tbh i knew there was an easy coming, so i went a little more intense on this one

unappreciative wrote:
01:20:000 (1,2,3) - This doesn't feel right, if you are mapping to the piano. Even though this is a Normal, I think you can get away with some repeating sliders to represent the piano to make it resonate with what you mapped below.
Maybe something like this: https://i.imgur.com/H0OpNlT.png
01:24:800 (1,2,3,1) - here as well.
Something like this may work: https://i.imgur.com/Enj1H2C.jpg

01:28:000 (2,3,1) - Really like this, but most of the stuff before it should be fixed if you're mapping to the piano. this was actually too dense,
i made it a 1/2 slider now lol. also i don;t think the intensity here for a normal diff would let me get away with using 1/2 that much, unfortunately

thanks guys
added light-muting green lines to make the long sliders feel more like pedaled piano notes zz

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Aurele

Global Moderator

7,514 posts

Joined January 2011

Aurele 2018-02-26T03:43:40+00:00

thank you so much for your mod, unappreciative, I appreciate it

I applied everything.

Gabe's Hard

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Source:Undertale
Tags:metal undyne undying genocide boss vgm soundtrack theme Realazy Mentai
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May you please add 'Veus' in the tags as well?

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,251 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Izzywing 2018-02-26T04:09:05+00:00

updated all and fixed metadata, redownload @ gders!!!

toybot

1,067 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2018-02-26T06:40:18+00:00

hello there sry for late mod

[genocide]
00:12:800 (1,2,1,2) - you should do more circle heavy patterns here, using sliders here feels like you kinda regressed in intensity
00:24:600 (5) - maybe nc this instead? feels like this should be more emphasized - apply to similar patterns
00:29:000 (2) - stacking this where 00:28:000 (1) - is and adjusting 00:29:300 (4,5) - accordingly feels a lot more natural imo
01:28:400 (1) - aw wish there was something to hold here
01:46:000 (5,6) - try 1/2 slider and circles? the way its arranged doesnt rly make 1 feel that strong
01:51:800 (1) - 01:53:000 (1) - inconsistent nc, but it think its better to apply these ncs to similar patterns
02:07:400 (7,8,9,1) - try 1/2 -> 3 circles here too? same reasoning as b4

[realazy]
00:28:800 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:35:200 (1,2,3,4,5) - u should follow the rhythm you've been using most often here imo (00:19:200 (1,2,3,4,5) - ), feels unnatural to tap
00:45:400 (3) - shouldnt this be 2 circles

[insane]
01:17:600 (1) - uhh this curve looks so fkin weird
01:24:800 (2) - nc

[gabe]
00:12:400 (3) - a 1/2 slider would be better here, 1/4 feels too dense
00:31:400 (3,4) - dont really feel like this is the best choice, kinda hard to tell how this plays out when the music doesnt support it
01:07:200 (1) - uh shorten to the white tick b4 at 01:10:000 -
02:05:600 (1) - same tbh shorten to 02:07:800 -

[mentai]
00:46:800 (3) - would take rearranging but i think placing this at 00:46:700 - would benefit it more, since the player becomes more familiar w/ playing this at the same time that dotted note rhythm plays
00:59:600 (3) - same
01:40:400 (1,1) - i always avoided stuff like this in low diffs since i thought the overlap would be hard to read, but idk

[craezy]
00:06:400 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - place these closer to the center? even though its slow its still a pretty big jump from 4 -> 1, especially since its nc'd and theres no followpoints to follow

gl!

Realazy

Elite Mapper

1,004 posts

Joined June 2011

Realazy 2018-02-26T18:04:07+00:00

all fixed

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,251 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Izzywing 2018-02-26T18:11:38+00:00

00:12:800 (1,2,1,2) - you should do more circle heavy patterns here, using sliders here feels like you kinda regressed in intensity i thought itd be cool to revert in intensity as a lead into the spinner actually
00:24:600 (5) - maybe nc this instead? feels like this should be more emphasized - apply to similar patterns sure
00:29:000 (2) - stacking this where 00:28:000 (1) - is and adjusting 00:29:300 (4,5) - accordingly feels a lot more natural imo tried this but it felt worse to play for me :\
01:28:400 (1) - aw wish there was something to hold here agreed!
01:46:000 (5,6) - try 1/2 slider and circles? the way its arranged doesnt rly make 1 feel that strong agree
01:51:800 (1) - 01:53:000 (1) - inconsistent nc, but it think its better to apply these ncs to similar patterns ye
02:07:400 (7,8,9,1) - try 1/2 -> 3 circles here too? same reasoning as b4 ya

01:17:600 (1) - uhh this curve looks so fkin weird k lol
01:24:800 (2) - nc mhm

thanks

jas

542 posts

Joined August 2016

jas 2018-02-26T21:19:54+00:00

fized from toybot

osu file format v14

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Mentai

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Joined June 2016

Mentai 2018-03-02T22:46:31+00:00

fixed everything (2)

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kwk

572 posts

Joined May 2010

kwk 2018-03-03T05:36:14+00:00

~

[top]
00:56:900 - be nice if this was clickable since higher pitch
02:03:600 (3,4) - the pause really sucks for pacing

[real]
00:06:400 (1,2) - for the sliders in this section i think muting the sliderslide would be nice
00:31:400 (3,4) - id be edgy and just stack 4 onto 3 tbh the stack on 00:31:500 (4,5) - kinda sucks since it doesnt contrast with the previous stacked circle+slider patterns
00:33:100 (3,4,1) - space these out further if you care about visuals
00:37:700 (2,3) - maybe unstack these and space it out with dsing on 00:37:400 (1,2,3) - , same thing as earlier with the contrast

[gabe]
dont really have a problem with the diff but isnt the note density a bit lacking? its closer to a normal than an insane, note density in the insane seems to be double of what the hard has..

rest seems fine

~

Realazy

Elite Mapper

1,004 posts

Joined June 2011

Realazy 2018-03-03T14:37:14+00:00

all fixed

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,251 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Izzywing 2018-03-04T05:23:34+00:00

fixed and udpated everything

Aurele

Global Moderator

7,514 posts

Joined January 2011

Aurele 2018-03-05T04:42:03+00:00

toybot wrote:
[gabe]
00:12:400 (3) - a 1/2 slider would be better here, 1/4 feels too dense I'd rather keep this slider as it represent the crescendo of the piano
00:31:400 (3,4) - dont really feel like this is the best choice, kinda hard to tell how this plays out when the music doesnt support it fixed that
01:07:200 (1) - uh shorten to the white tick b4 at 01:10:000 - fixed that
02:05:600 (1) - same tbh shorten to 02:07:800 - not really, the end is more remarkable where it currently lands.

gl!

Thank you!

kwk wrote:
[gabe]
dont really have a problem with the diff but isnt the note density a bit lacking? its closer to a normal than an insane, note density in the insane seems to be double of what the hard has..

rest seems fine

~

As I mentioned Hobbes, while creating my diff, I was going back and front from the Normal, to my diff, to the Insane and I believe there shouldn't be an issue. I believe the spread is well represented, as my difficulty tends to be more difficult on the spacings, while Insane is more a question of objects and the Normal is quite simple.

Hope you understand!

Thanks to both of you.

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Nevo

Global Moderator

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Nevo 2018-03-05T22:48:00+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
for the off screen slider, I think a little part of the sliderborder goes offscreen barely, but i dont think thats unrankable. because of how structured the patterns are I'd have to pretty much remap parts of this to fix it properly lol, i nudged it as much as I could

02:04:800 (3) - but the ranking criteria still has it as a rule that nothing can be off thy screen :^(

soft-sliderslide2 isn't used

past that call me back again xd

:V

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,251 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Izzywing 2018-03-05T23:48:12+00:00

ok i fixed it by rotating the whole pattern by 1% and moving everything up lol

deleted the file

Nevo

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Joined November 2015

Nevo 2018-03-05T23:51:53+00:00

we need more maps that actually offend people - Lasse

bubbled

Nao Tomori

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Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2018-03-06T22:44:46+00:00

patzar
00:25:600 (1) - u could try to emphasize this more imo. maybe make 00:25:500 (4) - go down? cuz u hav jumps on these types of things earlier 2

01:44:000 (1,3,5) - u can clean this pattern up a bit imo..

01:46:000 (5) - should really be 1/1 imo, fits structure more

01:48:600 (8,9) - dont see why theres a sharp angle change on 9 when 01:48:800 (1) - is the one that should be getting emphasis - try to do something else here if you ran out of space

01:28:400 - u should totally add a soft slider body whistle with increasing volume here lol

real
01:00:200 (2,3,4) - i dont rly think this pattern is good cuz 234 isnt together in the song, its really obviously 34 are separate. so making a pattern that distinguishes that instead would be nicer

01:51:000 (6,1,3,4) - this can look neater with more even spacing / curve

02:03:800 (4) - nc?

00:52:800 (1,3,4) - make this so 3 stacks perfect on 1 head instead of 4

01:09:800 (3,4,5) - making these all circle stacks would fit well since there's clap spam and buildup. fits a lot better than 01:48:200 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - here lol..

01:38:800 (7,8,1) - this looks very cramped, can you space it out more

01:45:600 (3,5) - KriSom.,

insane
00:01:200 (3) - can u just make it straight this looks awful to me
same for all,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

00:30:200 (6) - ctrl G imo

01:28:400 - sam

gabe
00:09:600 (1,2) - omg this looks rly bad can u blanket them at least ,

00:58:200 (3) - imo follo the melody in the white tick here

01:03:000 (2,3) - same

02:05:600 - put circle b4 spinner so its more engaging 2 play imo

mentai
theres like random fukin parts of sliders with slider slide on get that checked out

00:48:000 (1) - wat in fuck is this slider its so ugly...........................

01:20:000 - can u lower the ds in this part its sooooooooo high just use .80 or something

same 4 intro btw
except its kinda ok in intro cuz its a lot more dense rhythmically
but yea high spacing low density is dumb imo

01:30:800 (1) - imo u should remove these ncs, to use 2 measure NCing instead of 1 measure. would be nicer to have longer combos

01:34:400 (1,2,3) - these patterns might be a bit confusing since 3 is equal spacing as 2 from 1. so make it more linear so that 2 is clearly closer to 1 than 3 is

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10413589

01:49:400 (2,3) - especially here//.
craezy
00:28:400 (3,1) - kinda defeats the point of DS if you put the notes like this, people will go to 1 first cuz its closer to 2.... make 1 farther from the end of 2 than 3 is

camellia tier slider art

Aurele

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Aurele 2018-03-07T00:05:53+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
gabe
00:09:600 (1,2) - omg this looks rly bad can u blanket them at least , It is not bad and I believe it is okay

00:58:200 (3) - imo follo the melody in the white tick here I am following the piano, like the whole map is mostly based on the piano

01:03:000 (2,3) - same Same thing here

02:05:600 - put circle b4 spinner so its more engaging 2 play imo I don't understand how this can be engaging since I am following the stronger sounds on 02:04:400 (1,2,3) - . My intention won't be clear if I add another circle after these o:

Thank you for your check-up Nao!

Mentai

472 posts

Joined June 2016

Mentai 2018-03-07T01:19:14+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
mentai
theres like random fukin parts of sliders with slider slide on get that checked out uhhh idk, this is up to Touhou. i don;t wanna mess with his files

00:48:000 (1) - wat in fuck is this slider its so ugly........................... z

01:20:000 - can u lower the ds in this part its sooooooooo high just use .80 or something is this okay. i kept constant 1.1ish through the map,
i dont like to deviate. i'll drop these parts by .1 but idk if i can do anymore

same 4 intro btw ^
except its kinda ok in intro cuz its a lot more dense rhythmically
but yea high spacing low density is dumb imo

01:30:800 (1) - imo u should remove these ncs, to use 2 measure NCing instead of 1 measure. would be nicer to have longer combos yes

01:34:400 (1,2,3) - these patterns might be a bit confusing since 3 is equal spacing as 2 from 1. so make it more linear so that 2 is clearly closer to 1 than 3 is tbh i think it's ok because there is an easy diff, so i could use some slightly more geometrical and mechanical designs in this map. i would agree otherwise

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10413589

01:49:400 (2,3) - especially here//. ^

thnaks

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Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,251 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Izzywing 2018-03-07T07:38:24+00:00

patzar
00:25:600 (1) - u could try to emphasize this more imo. maybe make 00:25:500 (4) - go down? cuz u hav jumps on these types of things earlier 2 mm makes the pattern kinda weird imo. i kept jumps for the later stuff to keep things interesting, starting off with them feels meh to me

01:44:000 (1,3,5) - u can clean this pattern up a bit imo.. ok

01:46:000 (5) - should really be 1/1 imo, fits structure more ye

01:48:600 (8,9) - dont see why theres a sharp angle change on 9 when 01:48:800 (1) - is the one that should be getting emphasis - try to do something else here if you ran out of space k, also did a small chang eto 01:58:300 (9,1) - to match better

01:28:400 - u should totally add a soft slider body whistle with increasing volume here lol eh sounded kinda shit to me lol

did the stuff for the insane but the first point cause subjective and last point cause umm ugly

updated other diffs ty

Realazy

Elite Mapper

1,004 posts

Joined June 2011

Realazy 2018-03-07T21:35:13+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
real

01:51:000 (6,1,3,4) - this can look neater with more even spacing / curve i dunno what you mean actually

00:52:800 (1,3,4) - make this so 3 stacks perfect on 1 head instead of 4 i actually left it out on purpose i dont rly like how it looks

01:09:800 (3,4,5) - making these all circle stacks would fit well since there's clap spam and buildup. fits a lot better than 01:48:200 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - here lol.. lower intensity part and it builds into an even slower part, so id rather not have circle spam here

01:45:600 (3,5) - KriSom., yo that me

also i raised ar to 9.2 yolo

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Izzywing 2018-03-07T22:52:11+00:00

updated all the shit and fixed the slider for craezy by moving it down

https://tobyfox.bandcamp.com/ <-- artist title, song title, and stylization of UNDERTALE can be found here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbZxgm ... sVQfBsFyAw Ferdk's name spelling can be found here

i asked metadata discord and they said to use "vs." when dealing with a mashup of two artists performing the same song, so that's what I did

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Nao Tomori 2018-03-08T18:00:26+00:00

gabe -
02:05:600 - cuz the last note in that 4 note pattern is here, you don't click for the start of a spinner necessarily so putting a circle there makes active rhythm and is more engaging to play.

mentai -
01:48:400 (4,2,3) - this one is especialy confusing cuz of the perfect overlap too.. just try and spread it out more so that it isnt all clumped in a corner like this please

insane - u didnt ctrl g the thing

easy -
00:54:000 (2) - delete cuz it doesnt follo the melody everything else does

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Izzywing 2018-03-08T21:31:14+00:00

Fixed everything with permission

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Nao Tomori 2018-03-08T23:10:54+00:00

ayanoko this is how u qualify a map

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Izzywing 2018-03-08T23:11:36+00:00

thanks jeff

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Aurele 2018-03-09T00:34:02+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
ayanoko this is how u qualify a map

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