Marshmello - Alone [Osu|Taiko] · forum

Pachiru

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Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

Pachiru 2016-12-31T16:36:35+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mercredi 23 août 2017 at 05:41:09

Artist: Marshmello
Title: Alone
Tags: Original Mix Monstercat Trap Gabe Veus Secretpipe Kin Cosmolade Noffy
BPM: 142
Filesize: 16108kb
Play Time: 02:14
Difficulties Available:

Gabe's Easy (1,38 stars, 97 notes)
Gabe's Oni (3,24 stars, 481 notes)
Hard (2,8 stars, 236 notes)
Hyper (3,16 stars, 289 notes)
Insane (3,96 stars, 367 notes)
Kin's Muzukashii (2,82 stars, 339 notes)
Kin's Solitude (4,44 stars, 450 notes)
Noffichiru's Advanced (1,91 stars, 208 notes)
Secretpipe's Normal (1,66 stars, 161 notes)

Download: Marshmello - Alone
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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You'll never be alone
Because I'll always be here with you.
GD: Noffy, Secretpipe, Gabe & Kin - Hitsounds: Kin
Skin: Noffy (Download)- SB: Cosmolade

erlinadewi-'s mania set - Venix's std set
01.01.2017 | #2

Last edited by Pachiru 2019-07-21T20:36:41+00:00, edited 122 times in total.

Cosmolade

1,289 posts

Joined December 2012

Cosmolade 2017-01-03T21:23:28+00:00

#1
Storyboard
Please put on the widescreen support
poke me if you have problems with it >.<)/

mangomizer

120 posts

Joined September 2012

mangomizer 2017-01-30T08:15:16+00:00

Quick mod for suggestions.

Chromoxx' Isolation

00:15:216 (6) - Going along the theme of pitch mapping, this note can be a k to contrast against the next pattern d k d. ie. the E note highlighted here is higher pitch than the D later on.
00:21:976 (20) - ^
01:32:962 (42,43,44,45,46,47,48) - ddkkddk may be better expressed as ddkdkkd or ddkdkdd
02:08:455 (306) - Once again going on the theme of pitch mapping, could somehow sneak a k or even K, as you have mapped a very similar pitch jump with kk 1/8th doublet in the preceding section at 02:01:695 (257,258)

Chromoxx

904 posts

Joined August 2012

Chromoxx 2017-01-30T20:19:19+00:00

magnomizer wrote:
Quick mod for suggestions.

Chromoxx' Isolation
00:15:216 (6) - Going along the theme of pitch mapping, this note can be a k to contrast against the next pattern d k d. ie. the E note highlighted here is higher pitch than the D later on.
00:21:976 (20) - ^ yeah, nice one
01:32:962 (42,43,44,45,46,47,48) - ddkkddk may be better expressed as ddkdkkd or ddkdkdd the ddkkddk is building up on the 2 ddk repetitions i had before and creates good tension to where the long 1/2 part starts
02:08:455 (306) - Once again going on the theme of pitch mapping, could somehow sneak a k or even K, as you have mapped a very similar pitch jump with kk 1/8th doublet in the preceding section at 02:01:695 (257,258) changed this one to K and also changed the last kk doublet at 02:01:695 - to K since it's different to the others

thx for modding!

updated diff

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 40568
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 13526
DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.2

[Metadata]
Title:Alone
TitleUnicode:Alone
Artist:Marshmello
ArtistUnicode:Marshmello
Creator:Pachiru
Version:Chromoxx' Isolation
Source:
Tags:
BeatmapID:1194745
BeatmapSetID:552712

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6.5
ApproachRate:8.5
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"alone-girl.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,67810,80456
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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frukoyurdakul

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frukoyurdakul 2017-02-08T22:16:36+00:00

So desperate for pp lol

Pachiru

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Pachiru 2017-02-08T22:17:45+00:00

frukoyurdakul wrote:
So desperate for pp lol

I think this is not the map where you'll get PP for STD, so ... ^^'

frukoyurdakul

641 posts

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frukoyurdakul 2017-02-09T00:52:29+00:00

I meant for taiko :3

Pachiru

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Pachiru 2017-02-09T01:20:49+00:00

Oh I see, sorry for that misunderstanding ! ;w;

Shadowa Pinkman

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Shadowa Pinkman 2017-02-09T07:34:25+00:00

prepare urself for 1k pp plays chromo :v

Aurele

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Aurele 2017-02-10T03:22:49+00:00

oh mais, c'est quoi ça?

:3c

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Pachiru

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Pachiru 2017-02-10T16:22:43+00:00

Updated Gabe's diff !

erlinadewi-

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erlinadewi- 2017-02-12T12:58:55+00:00

go for rank owo)b

Pachiru

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Pachiru 2017-02-12T15:13:32+00:00

Thanks erlina ! I also forgot to say that I took mp3 from your map, I'll add you on the thread! o,o

Aurele

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Aurele 2017-02-15T04:42:01+00:00

aoué, n'oublies pas "Veus" dans les tags

Syns_old_1

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Syns_old_1 2017-02-24T03:14:46+00:00

rank this .<.

Pachiru

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Pachiru 2017-02-25T21:58:40+00:00

HeyItsSins wrote:
rank this .<.

I'll do my best for it ! >w<

Shadowa Pinkman

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Shadowa Pinkman 2017-02-26T17:58:05+00:00

rank this for free pp ♥

gaston_2199

1,179 posts

Joined February 2015

gaston_2199 2017-03-01T22:38:44+00:00

Hi!
NM from my queue~

[

Muzukashii]

00:35:497 (44) - This is inconsistent with 00:28:737 (30) - , consider change to kat
00:40:885 (54) - Delete finisher
00:43:526 (64) - Change to don for consistence as 00:50:286 (90) -
00:51:976 (97) - Change to kat, consistence as 00:45:216 (71) -
01:27:681 - Add don here? I listen something
01:31:061 - Add don here? ^
Why do you don't add a break here 01:56:835 - ? Add note here 01:56:413 - and remove 01:56:835 (115,116) -
01:59:793 - The same here ^
02:01:906 (137) - Move to 02:01:483 -
02:03:174 - The same as 01:56:835 -

This need more mods, specially in the kiai

[

Oni]

-Consider turn up the stars to 3.8 for convert this a Oni
-Delete some notes like 00:15:638 (7,8) - 00:19:019 (16,17) - 00:22:399 (25,26) - for a better spread (the others diffs hasn't this notes)

00:34:864 (32) - I think this note is unnecesary, consider delete this
00:44:476 - You can add kat to this or similar for vary, the sounds is good
00:46:166 (32) - Delete, no destacable sound here and consistence as 00:52:610 (29,30,31,32,33,34) -
01:30:427 (8) - Move to 01:30:216 - and change to kat
01:30:638 - Add kat to follow with the mentionen above
01:41:413 - / 01:44:793 - You can vary here, try some patterns like kkd kkddk ddkdkdd
01:50:181 (100) - Delete, unnecesary note (no sound)
01:50:392 (101) - Change to don
01:50:709 (104) - Change to kat for snare
01:56:941 - The same as 01:50:181 (100) -
02:13:526 (66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74) - Why you added finishers here? This is the same than the before, consider remove finishers

[

Chromoxx's Insolation]I can't say much about this, is very well mapped, only some questions:

01:29:371 - Why youn don't added a note like here 01:22:610 (5) - ? I understand this isn't the same, but I think that is consistent if you added a note
01:30:427 (33) - This hear some stronger, maybe move to 01:30:638 - ?
01:48:174 - Farm inc :^)

Awesome mapset, take my stars~
Good luck!

Chromoxx

904 posts

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Chromoxx 2017-03-02T20:12:12+00:00

gaston_2199 wrote:
Hi!
NM from my queue~
[ Chromoxx's Insolation]I can't say much about this, is very well mapped, only some questions:

01:29:371 - Why youn don't added a note like here 01:22:610 (5) - ? I understand this isn't the same, but I think that is consistent if you added a note
01:30:427 (33) - This hear some stronger, maybe move to 01:30:638 - ?
01:48:174 - Farm inc :^)
Awesome mapset, take my stars~
Good luck!

focusing more on buildup for that part than strictly following the melody, so declining the 2 suggestions

new diff cos i made some streams at the end play better

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 40568
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 13526
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.2

[Metadata]
Title:Alone
TitleUnicode:Alone
Artist:Marshmello
ArtistUnicode:Marshmello
Creator:Pachiru
Version:Chromoxx' Isolation
Source:
Tags:Gabe Veus Secretpipe Kin Cosmolade Noffy Chromoxx
BeatmapID:1194745
BeatmapSetID:552712

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6.5
ApproachRate:8.5
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"alone-girl.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,67810,80456
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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108174,-100,4,1,0,90,0,1
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Kin

2,622 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2017-03-02T20:15:19+00:00

gaston_2199 wrote:
Hi!
NM from my queue~
[ Muzukashii]
00:35:497 (44) - This is inconsistent with 00:28:737 (30) - , consider change to kat ye fixed
00:40:885 (54) - Delete finisher i really don't remember add finish here. Anyway, changed to d
00:43:526 (64) - Change to don for consistence as 00:50:286 (90) - it'll only make the map more boring
00:51:976 (97) - Change to kat, consistence as 00:45:216 (71) -
01:27:681 - Add don here? I listen something what you hear isn't what I follow, so no
01:31:061 - Add don here? ^ i can understand about this one since it follow the melody, however, it was intentionaly skip, to be more consistent with the whole difficulty of the map according to the song
Why do you don't add a break here 01:56:835 - ? Add note here 01:56:413 - and remove 01:56:835 (115,116) - you're just asking me to break my whole consistency on break over yours, so no
01:59:793 - The same here ^
02:01:906 (137) - Move to 02:01:483 -
02:03:174 - The same as 01:56:835 -

This need more mods, specially in the kiai
I think you're absolutely not paying attention to what I'm following & how I mapped. I feel like you're just giving me your personal opinion over general thing

tho, thanks for mod!

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rew0825

1,290 posts

Joined March 2013

rew0825 2017-03-03T06:05:45+00:00

Hello from my modding queue :3

General

Gabe's Oni Tags isn't same other diff

Kin's Muzukashii

change HP to 6
01:02:117 (136) - change to k? consistency with 00:48:596 (84) -
01:03:807 (142) - change to d? for consistency with 00:50:286 (90) -
01:05:498 (149) - change to d? for consistency with 00:51:976 (97) -
01:34:652 (44) - add finish?
01:40:990 (64) - add finish?
01:50:286 (86,87) - change to d all? look like the sound is same 01:49:864 (85) -
01:53:878 (102,103) - ctrl+g? 01:54:089 (103) - the sound is higher than 01:53:878 (102) -
02:01:695 (135) - add finish?
02:03:385 (142) - add finish?

Gabe's Oni

change HP,OD to 5
00:30:638 (14) - delete it and 00:31:272 (17) - move to 00:31:483 and then 00:31:483 (17,19) - change to d for consistency with 00:29:054 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
00:34:124 and 00:34:441 - add note and 00:34:652 (30) - delete.
00:38:033 (48) - move to 00:38:244
01:00:004 (35,36) - overlap notes xD
01:02:645 (11) - if you want to add note i suggest move it to 01:03:702
01:42:786 (59,60) - ctrl+g? looks better for play
01:48:174 (88) - add finish?
01:54:934 (129) - add finish?

That's all from me. Good luck

Aldwych

2,831 posts

Joined February 2012

Aldwych 2017-03-03T14:00:17+00:00

As requested from Pachiru

[General]

Epilepsy warning?

[Muzukashii]

00:14:793 (3,4,5) - Well it's up to you but why not dkd or kdk? Just for the melody variation?

00:17:751 (8) - This kind of note should be worth as d instead by listening to the music you can see it follows a kdkd structure. Well you got my point i guess.

00:31:272 (34) - ^

00:40:568 (53) - The structure is ok for me, nothing to say but my concerns are the layers or more precisely how you define to use d or k? Especially 00:43:526 (64,71) - these ones, why aren't they d instead? What overrides the beat at these places to deserve k?

00:54:406 (106,107) - Starting by here, you decided to turn your doubles into k? Why? Also i'm not fan of the double k by looking on the song and patterns, i'd rather see dk here (for """"natural""""" clap place) and kd at 00:56:096 (112,113) - because it sounds nice

01:51:343 (91,92,93) - About the triples, i'm curious on how you defined the place to add them. Because they are not placed at the same place in the music, it look a bit messy.

The last kiai part is okay even tho it is a bit technical between the 3/4 and triples, but it's fine for me.

[Party's Oni]

OD is too high, consider reducing to 5 or 5.5 for a better OD spread in the set.

00:13:526 (1) - + The begining is more filled than the Inner, maybe some clean is needed (i felt like Applause haha). Also what are the layers on this part to define if it's a k or a d you should place, because i do agree with Kin and Chromoxx about their uses because of the melody variation and not yours :c

00:53:561 (36) - Turn into k for a better impact on the next beat?

01:00:638 (39,40) - You need a break, right now the stamina required is a bit too much.

01:41:835 (51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87) - Ewww, we're is it good for an Inner Oni. But it is too hard for an Oni. What you can do is something like :

Which is cleaner. So i'm using 3x kdd for an easy read (even tho it is a bit technical to proceed) than kdddk to keep the player on the same playstyle with the keyboard (you can do kkd x3 kkddk aswell it fine). Then a break to keep a bit the stamina and after i'm just following the melody and cleaning a bit. The mono k is potentially acceptable because ono did some maps with solo d (even it is maybe old maps haha), but if you have doubts about the mono stream, keep in mind the slider.

01:50:392 (96) - Not sure if this kind of notes are necessary, the pattern it self is a bit complex.

01:52:399 (107) - I don't see the point of these kind of finishers what is impactfull here to double tap compared to 01:54:934 (123) - ?

02:02:751 (10) - Why starting here and not 02:03:385 (1) - ? There's not even beat to define a limit between the mapping part (e.g 02:02:751 (10) - ) and the break.

02:04:124 (6) - Felt better without plus it keeps the 2x 1/2 as 02:04:864 (10,11) - .

02:05:392 (13) - I'd better see a k here for easier pattern and d at 02:06:237 (20) - in order to get the base kkd kdd you got before.

02:07:082 (25) - Triple missing.

If you have done what i said the 4 lines above, you'll see that in terms of structure, this section is cleaner and consistent.

02:08:244 (31) - I had never said enough, but breaks are life.

02:10:884 (48) - Why k here? It doesn't follow the 2 others and make the pattern more complex than it should.

Yeah i felt you still have some stuff to learn about taiko. But keep it up, you're in a good way!

[Inner Oni]

Nyeah. Just played testing and i had fun. My two concerns are :
- The OD, clearly this map is easily HRable (even DTable for many ppl) and this OD is kinda repressive (9.1 in HR is a bit meh ya' know).
- 01:48:174 (129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256) - Thanks for the free pp fam. But be sure daddy Loctav will come and rekt you xD. Just by deleting this, you got 4.5 SR. Does this diff really deserves 7*? I don't think so, but make taiko great again! We need pp!

Gemu-

1,015 posts

Joined October 2010

Gemu- 2017-03-05T00:24:38+00:00

Hi! ^w^ Request from Pachiru owo

d
k
D (Big d)
K (Big k)

[ Kin's Muzukashii]

HP: 6
OD: 4

00:35:497 (44) - Change to k to keep consistency with 00:27:892 (27,28,29,30) -
00:59:476 (125,126) - Change to k to keep consistency and drums 00:54:406 (106,107) - , 00:56:096 (112,113) - , 00:57:786 (119,120) -
01:06:237 (151,152) - ^
01:35:920 (47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54) - Change to --> https://puu.sh/utVsy/03af12fcc1.png to keep consistency and the rhythm with 01:22:399 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) -
02:04:547 (149) - This drum is just a drum low, similar to 02:06:237 (157) - so please change to d the note 149.

[ Gabe's Oni]

HP: 5
OD: 5

00:18:385 (14) - The sound increases in this part, because the note 5 the sound is low 00:15:005 (5) - is not similar in both. Please change to k the note 14.
00:25:145 (32) - Change to k for the previous reason and consistency with the previous suggestion.
00:28:526 (5) - Change to d, the reason is in the first suggestion, consitency with 00:14:793 (4,5,6) -
00:32:117 (21) - Change to d, consistency with the first and second suggestion.
00:35:286 (34,35) - Change to d, consistency with the drums and 00:14:793 (4,5,6) - and 00:28:314 (4,5,6) -
00:38:878 (51) - Change to k, consistency and drums with the first, second and fourth suggestion.
00:46:166 (32) - Change to k to flow the stream and sound very good.
00:59:688 (32) - Change to k for consistency with the previous suggestion (Only if you applied it)
01:40:462 (44) - Change to k, kkd is to flow it.
01:41:413 (48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76) - Change to --> https://puu.sh/utWhV/62181892b4.png
01:49:019 (92) - Remove the finish, is not necessary because the sound is not high and is interfering with the flow of the notes with the song 01:48:385 (89,90,91) - , 01:49:230 (93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103) -
01:50:709 (104) - ^
01:52:399 (113) - ^
01:54:089 (123) - ^
01:54:934 (129) - Here the sound is very high and the drum is similar to a finish, put a finish D.
01:55:779 (134) - Remove the finish (You know why)
01:57:469 (146) - ^
01:59:159 (155) - ^
01:59:476 (2) - Change to k, sounds very good.
02:00:005 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Remove those finish (You know why)
02:05:392 (14) - Change to k to keep the sequence and balance with the rhythm 02:05:709 (17,18,19) -
02:10:674 (48) - Change to k, sounds great.
02:13:526 (66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73) - Remove those finish (You know why)

[ Chromoxx' Isolation]

OD: 6

00:45:955 (122) - Change to k, sounds good.
01:35:075 (51,52) - Change to k to variate a bit.
01:48:174 (129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256) - You can change it please? I don't like much and can be a bit confusing. Also, How said Aldwych: " you got 4.5 SR. Does this diff really deserves 7*?"

I hope my mod has been helpful you, Good luck!

Aurele

Global Moderator

7,514 posts

Joined January 2011

Aurele 2017-03-07T03:52:04+00:00

Thank you a lot to all of you! That helped me so much to understand rhythm.
I am not responding to any since I applying everything. ~or almost everything~

Gabe's Oni

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ajoute les tags pour moi lel

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,956 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

Pachiru 2017-03-08T19:50:36+00:00

08/03/2017

Updated Gabe's diff with previous mods.
Added Secretpipe's Normal difficulty.

Kin

2,622 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2017-03-09T01:14:48+00:00

rew0825 wrote:
Hello from my modding queue :3

General
Gabe's Oni Tags isn't same other diff

Kin's Muzukashii
change HP to 6 fixed
01:02:117 (136) - change to k? consistency with 00:48:596 (84) - the melody is the same, but the drum have now some snare. Changing it into k change nothing on the consistency
01:03:807 (142) - change to d? for consistency with 00:50:286 (90) -
01:05:498 (149) - change to d? for consistency with 00:51:976 (97) -
01:34:652 (44) - add finish?
01:40:990 (64) - add finish? changing it into big note doesn't suit the way I mapped & the melody
01:50:286 (86,87) - change to d all? look like the sound is same 01:49:864 (85) - I prefer the flow with k instead if d
01:53:878 (102,103) - ctrl+g? 01:54:089 (103) - the sound is higher than 01:53:878 (102) - I'll lose the emphasis on melody 01:54:300 (104,105,106) -
02:01:695 (135) - add finish? this beat isn't strong enough to be a finished
02:03:385 (142) - add finish? fixed

Aldwych wrote:
[Muzukashii]

00:14:793 (3,4,5) - Well it's up to you but why not dkd or kdk? Just for the melody variation?
the loop melody is exactly the same
00:17:751 (8) - This kind of note should be worth as d instead by listening to the music you can see it follows a kdkd structure. Well you got my point i guess.

00:31:272 (34) - ^
well, according the the pitch 00:17:751 - is higher than 00:17:328 - .
00:40:568 (53) - The structure is ok for me, nothing to say but my concerns are the layers or more precisely how you define to use d or k? Especially 00:43:526 (64,71) - these ones, why aren't they d instead? What overrides the beat at these places to deserve k?
00:43:526 (64) - for vocal/melody ; 00:45:216 (71) - flow/melody
00:54:406 (106,107) - Starting by here, you decided to turn your doubles into k? Why? Also i'm not fan of the double k by looking on the song and patterns, i'd rather see dk here (for """"natural""""" clap place) and kd at 00:56:096 (112,113) - because it sounds nice
I prefer to use monocolor for a muzukashii diff.
01:51:343 (91,92,93) - About the triples, i'm curious on how you defined the place to add them. Because they are not placed at the same place in the music, it look a bit messy. ye, made some change on triplet 1st part kiai

The last kiai part is okay even tho it is a bit technical between the 3/4 and triples, but it's fine for me.

game rock wrote:
Hi! ^w^ Request from Pachiru owo

d
k
D (Big d)
K (Big k)

[ Kin's Muzukashii]

HP: 6
OD: 4
00:35:497 (44) - Change to k to keep consistency with 00:27:892 (27,28,29,30) - 00:35:497 (44) - this note is quite simular to 00:28:737 (30) - . But actually, the 1st one is a D6 while the 2nd one a C6.
00:59:476 (125,126) - Change to k to keep consistency and drums 00:54:406 (106,107) - , 00:56:096 (112,113) - , 00:57:786 (119,120) -
01:06:237 (151,152) - ^ about those 2, I prefer to keep them as d to make the pattern easier. Also those one are the only dd on this part, since it's the end of the loop
01:35:920 (47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54) - Change to --> https://puu.sh/utVsy/03af12fcc1.png to keep consistency and the rhythm with 01:22:399 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ye, fixed
02:04:547 (149) - This drum is just a drum low, similar to 02:06:237 (157) - so please change to d the note 149. but in this case, i don't like how d flow D:

thanks for mod!

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Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,956 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

Pachiru 2017-03-09T01:47:03+00:00

09/03/2017

Updated Kin's diff with previous mods.
Changed description according to the new Secretpipe's difficulty, and also updated GDers list on it.

P A N

2,354 posts

Joined December 2011

P A N 2017-03-10T08:34:20+00:00

yup! m4m
this mapset is already perfect so don't expect me to mod much XD

[General]

turn on epilepsy warning.
I suggest to less the volume on calm part such as the beginning part. like -10 or 20% to make it weaker than normal part.
I'm still not sure if some element of skin is still missing, ask BN about this XD

[Gabe]

00:50:709 (1) - this is an easy diff so let's pay attention to the aesthetic ok. make it like this looks more beautiful imo.
01:39:723 (2,3) - make their direction go nearer the center is better for beginner to start the spinner imo.
02:01:695 (1,2) - I'm just afraid if these two are too close to each other, I just taught two beginners and they when they already reach the next note, they don't know how to wait the approach circle blanket the hitcircle and miss rip.

[Secretpipe]

00:22:399 (4,5,6) - 6 is kinda the start of the new phrase so umm emphasize all of them by circle is kinda give 6 less impact so I suggest to change 4,5 to 1/2 slider. it's fine in term of variable pattern but the emphasization
01:07:610 - I tried to add note here and it really plays better imo. the current one is like meh, something is missing. unless you want it to be unique, add note and NC here instead? and remove NC on 01:06:765 (1) because every diff has that downbeat note.
01:21:976 (3) - this one is considered as spacing error for normal diff. I mean, I can tell even doesn't look at the number.
01:33:385 (4) - same as above.
01:48:174 - after here, your NC is mess up imo. such as you leave 01:54:934 (5) unNC while 02:08:455 (1) NC but they are the same phrase.
02:14:371 (2) - wanna suggest to remove reverse and place circle instead to give more impact at the ending + cymbal.

[Hard]

00:42:258 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the spacing from 1 to 2 is pretty much the same as 2 to 3 so yea, tbh. even I missread that. try to adjust the spacing to be read properly. this is an example. you mostly use the spacing from 2 to 3 with 1.20x or even lower than that but this one you use 1.40x+.
well overall, every spacing from 1 to 2 is kinda short because you use 1.00x there and 1.20x for 2 to 3. I would suggest to use 1.20x or just make it a bit further for 1 to 2 too. up to you, it's your style but if I were BN, I'm afraid ranking this XD
01:07:610 (5) - NC to be consistent with the ending note? or remove NC on 02:15:216 (1).

[Hyper]

00:35:497 (6) - meh hate saying this but my deep deep soul is squirming. move tail to the left way more for perfect blanket.
00:40:568 - after this part, why? well, all I can do is suggesting adjust the 1/4 and 1/2 spacing to be different. I know it's playable but it's so confusing.
01:07:610 (1) - this note suppose to be less spacing from other imo, it's downbeat.
01:24:300 (5,6,1) - I suggest to use 0.8x spacing like you did on 01:27:681 (6,7,1). for consistent and easier to read as 1/4.
01:35:920 (1) - two circles is more fit here, it's a transfer part to the new phrase so emphasizing it as same as the other feels off to me. so it will be 3 sliders - double 1/2 - 3 sliders, more playable imo.
01:41:413 (6) - NC?
01:44:793 (5) - ^

[Insane]

00:35:497 (3) - perfect blanket.
01:06:554 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - for me, 4 to 5 is strong than 6 to 7 to 1. so I think the pattern is suppose to be something like this.
01:30:005 - this rhythm is more fit with the song imo (5,6 can be 1/2 slider).
01:43:103 (1) - is there anyway to avoid this tricky 1/4 jump? player won't notice it's 1/4 with that spacing because it's circle to slider and it's kinda hard to play too. 01:44:371 (4,1) - this is fine because it's slider to circle

[Kin]

00:38:455 (4,5,1) - zig-zag pattern is more fit with the rhythm imo because it's downbeat-upbeat-downbeat. this pattern also fine, up to you.
01:21:554 (1) - no need NC imo.
01:44:793 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - use bigger spacing than 01:43:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) will emphasize the song better imo and give more impact (or you can make first stream less spacing if you feel the spacing is already large).

very nice mapset, good luck!

Atalanta

529 posts

Joined December 2015

Atalanta 2017-03-10T10:47:01+00:00

Hi Hi ! M4M :3

Kin's Solitude

I know it's a very little and minor nitpick, but here 00:32:117 (1,2,3) I think you can blank the sliders with the approach circle of the last one, cause when I move the sliders (don't know if I should do that but yolo) in the timeline to match the approach circle with curve of the slider it looks like this
00:47:645 (2,3) - not the same DS as the other (0.40/0.45)
01:21:554 (1) - Not sure about this NC
01:27:469 (6,1) - Can be blanket a little better
01:27:892 (1,2) - ^
01:29:793 - There's a sound here :c
01:56:202 (6,7,1) - I think that 180° angle jump doesn't fit with what the song is doing

Insane

00:14:793 (1,3) - Can be blanket a little better
00:35:075 (1,3) - ^ this one is very little
00:44:582 (3,6) - ^
01:04:864 (3,6) - ^
01:22:821 (1,2) - ^ yes I pointing every blanket so you don't have to search yourself, cause I know that polishing a map is a pain in the ass
01:42:997 (8,1) - I don't think that 1/4 jump is predictable, players are gonna read that as a 1/2 gap and they are gonna click late
01:57:258 (2,4) - Blanket
02:07:188 (3,5) - ^

Hyper

00:15:005 (4,5) - Blanket
00:40:568 (1,2) - DS here is the same as 00:40:990 (2,3) - It might be confusing
01:00:216 (4,5) - Blanket
01:30:427 - I know that you're not prioratizing drums in this part, but I feel sad for this one
01:46:483 - Insert break like the other diff ?
01:49:019 (3,4) - Blanket
01:52:399 (3,4) - ^
01:52:399 (3,1) - ^

Hard

00:15:216 (5,1) - Try to blanket both heads of the sliders with the other's curve
01:00:638 (5,1) - Blanket
01:45:427 (3) - I don't understand this slider, feel weird ans very anti-climatic
02:01:695 (1) - I don't think this reverse slider is predictable
02:04:864 (5,2) - Blanket

Secretpipe's Normal

01:32:962 (3,4) - DS

Gabe/s Easy

00:25:357 (3,1) - I think you can improve on blanketing those two sliders

That's my mod, I'm not gonna mod Taiko cause I don't know how to do it. I hope this was usefull ! :3
Have a Nice Day and Good Luck !

Spork Lover

727 posts

Joined October 2013

Spork Lover 2017-03-10T12:24:12+00:00

I'll mod after you guys have replied, 'cause I'm going to be overlapping a lot of things if I mod now :3

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2017-03-11T14:54:29+00:00

Hey, M4Ticket

[General]

normal-hitnormal and soft-hitclap hitsounds have a 3ms lag
add trap to tags
possibly find a bigger bg
your sprites needs to be bigger and have some antialiasing, they look really pixelated

[Kin's Solitude]

00:27:047 (1,2) - i can understand why you would switch to circles here in this new section but why didn't you keep up with the idea? 00:28:737 (1) - 00:30:427 (1) - etc are still sliders
00:30:004 (4) - you mapped this as a 1/1 circle in every other pattern except this one, it should be a 1/2 slider
00:33:385 (4) - you mapped this as a 1/2 slider in every other pattern except this one, it should be a 1/1 circle
00:57:047 (7,8) - these should be a 1/2 slider
01:00:427 (7,8) - ^
01:21:554 (1) - remove NC
01:48:174 - your kiai is quite inconsistent and i don't really understand what you're trying to follow especially in the second section
01:49:441 (6,1) - this angle is a bit awkward to hit, also this need emphasis, the spacing is quite underwhelming compared to (5,6)
01:56:202 (6,7,1) - why did you decide to suddenly have linear flow here
02:02:751 (6,7,8,1) - still linear flow kinda, (6,7) is awkward to hit and makes the transition into the stream play badly

[Insane]

00:40:568 (1,2) - not sure how i feel about this, the rhythm is quite unusual and players might read this as (2) being on the downbeat
applies to the whole section

[Hyper]

00:13:526 (1,2) - you should make this circle first then slider for consistency with the rest
00:19:864 (1,2) - this is the only stack you have in this part
01:24:300 (5,6,1) - probably not a good idea to have 1/4s in this part when 1/2s are overlapping, or maybe reduce their spacing more

[Hard]

00:40:568 (1,2) - i dont think hard players are ever going to read this properly, why didn't you simply do this:
SPOILER
or maybe a stream:
SPOILER
or even simply a repeat slider:
SPOILER
this applies to the whole section
00:43:103 (3,4) - this is the only time you mapped this as two circles
01:24:300 (1) - i dont think the 1/4 sound is relevant enough to be mapped, and surely not over the strong downbeat at 01:24:512 -, applies to the whole section
02:04:547 (4,2) - ew overlap
02:12:997 (4) - and 02:14:688 (5) - forgot a hitsound there i think

[Gabe's Easy]

01:30:427 - hitsounds?

[]

Seems like that'll be it, good luck!

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,956 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

Pachiru 2017-03-11T17:31:09+00:00

11/03/2017

Updated the Hard, Hyper and Secretpipe's Normal with the help of P A N, Toshino Kyoko and Alheak
Reworked the first active part of the song in the Hard, Hyper and Insane diffs to be more easier to play, and to fit with the ranking criteria.
Updated tags with the help of erlinadewi-'s mapset
Accepted all the mods on each modders suggestions. Thanks to all of you!
About Storyboard stuff suggested on Alheak's mod:

2017-03-11 20:45 Cosmolade: the sprites have the proper size to not have so much weight for the mapset, so they are ok
2017-03-11 20:46 Cosmolade: the quality is other history, because I rendered them in base of the bg image

Kin

2,622 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2017-03-12T05:35:36+00:00

P A N wrote:
[Kin]
00:38:455 (4,5,1) - zig-zag pattern is more fit with the rhythm imo because it's downbeat-upbeat-downbeat. this pattern also fine, up to you. I really like this linear flow at this moment
01:21:554 (1) - no need NC imo. ye, NC by mistake, removed
01:44:793 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - use bigger spacing than 01:43:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) will emphasize the song better imo and give more impact (or you can make first stream less spacing if you feel the spacing is already large). ye, changed spacing on last part of the stream to 1.2
very nice mapset, good luck!

Toshino Kyoko wrote:
Hi Hi ! M4M :3

Kin's Solitude
I know it's a very little and minor nitpick, but here 00:32:117 (1,2,3) I think you can blank the sliders with the approach circle of the last one, cause when I move the sliders (don't know if I should do that but yolo) in the timeline to match the approach circle with curve of the slider it looks like this kinda minor, but I lose a lil bit the flow by blanketing here
00:47:645 (2,3) - not the same DS as the other (0.40/0.45) it's really minor since it's 0.37, anyway, fixed
01:21:554 (1) - Not sure about this NC wasn't intentional, fixed on previous mod
01:27:469 (6,1) - Can be blanket a little better
01:27:892 (1,2) - ^ because I wasn't even aiming blanket
01:29:793 - There's a sound here :c the sound here isn't really what I'm following, also, that's why I use a really sharp angle with the red tick on the slider instead of slider end (tho, in both case, it play passively)
01:56:202 (6,7,1) - I think that 180° angle jump doesn't fit with what the song is doing i don't really get what you mean since it's linear here

Alheak wrote:
Hey, M4Ticket

[General]
normal-hitnormal and soft-hitclap hitsounds have a 3ms lag
add trap to tags
possibly find a bigger bg
your sprites needs to be bigger and have some antialiasing, they look really pixelated
[Kin's Solitude]
00:27:047 (1,2) - i can understand why you would switch to circles here in this new section but why didn't you keep up with the idea? 00:28:737 (1) - 00:30:427 (1) - etc are still sliders as you said, those circle here are just made to mark difference since the cymbal crash make the next part a lil more "intense". But since I'm really following the melody/piano, I still prefer the usage of slider
00:30:004 (4) - you mapped this as a 1/1 circle in every other pattern except this one, it should be a 1/2 slider but it's a 1/2 slider here >_>
00:33:385 (4) - you mapped this as a 1/2 slider in every other pattern except this one, it should be a 1/1 circle it's already an 1/1 circle here >_>
00:57:047 (7,8) - these should be a 1/2 slider
01:00:427 (7,8) - ^ for both case, since the music is more intense due to the snare, I still prefer to keep those 2 cases as circle since they're also following vocal/melody
01:21:554 (1) - remove NC placed by mistake, removed on previous mod
01:48:174 - your kiai is quite inconsistent and i don't really understand what you're trying to follow especially in the second section 1st section is the melody ; 2nd section is the drum
01:49:441 (6,1) - this angle is a bit awkward to hit, also this need emphasis, the spacing is quite underwhelming compared to (5,6) that's what I call flow/breaking flow emphasis
01:56:202 (6,7,1) - why did you decide to suddenly have linear flow here on this combo, F# 1/2 spam melody are mapped something similar to a back & forth. I made this one different (linear in this case) ; since it's a D F# G
02:02:751 (6,7,8,1) - still linear flow kinda, (6,7) is awkward to hit and makes the transition into the stream play badly when I play it, the transition seems to be ok for me, and the linear flow make it easier to hit the stream. I might change it if another modder point it out

thanks for mod everyone!

update

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240,80,87258,1,2,0:0:0:0:
304,228,87469,1,10,0:0:0:0:
336,124,87681,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,308,87892,6,0,P|400:276|408:232,1,67.5000025749208,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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172,320,89159,1,10,0:0:0:0:
148,128,89371,1,2,0:0:0:0:
152,344,89582,6,0,B|150:265|150:265|174:281,1,101.250003862381,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,324,90005,1,10,0:0:0:0:
88,220,90216,2,0,P|80:184|92:144,1,67.5000025749208,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,64,90638,1,2,0:0:0:0:
204,76,90850,2,0,P|168:80|120:72,1,67.5000025749208,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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256,164,91695,1,10,0:0:0:0:
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315,121,93173,1,2,0:0:0:0:
241,250,93385,1,10,0:0:0:0:
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124,328,95287,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,312,95497,1,10,0:0:0:0:
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188,264,95920,1,10,0:0:0:0:
172,68,96131,1,2,0:0:0:0:
292,228,96343,6,0,P|300:280|284:320,1,90,10|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,228,96765,1,10,0:0:0:0:
124,124,96976,1,8,0:0:0:0:
88,24,97188,1,10,0:0:0:0:
16,104,97399,1,8,0:0:0:0:
204,44,97610,1,10,0:0:0:0:
248,37,97716,1,8,0:0:0:0:
292,45,97821,1,10,0:0:0:0:
336,52,97927,1,8,0:0:0:0:
380,43,98033,5,10,0:0:0:0:
248,136,98244,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,128,99300,1,10,0:0:0:0:
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301,28,100145,1,10,0:0:0:0:
460,60,100357,1,10,0:0:0:0:
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65,122,106272,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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284,72,108596,1,0,1:0:0:0:
229,317,108807,1,0,3:0:0:0:
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300,304,109864,5,2,0:0:0:0:
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286,285,110286,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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68,172,111343,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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368,320,113455,1,0,3:0:0:0:
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248,248,114300,1,0,3:0:0:0:
52,192,114512,1,2,3:2:0:0:
12,320,114723,1,0,3:0:0:0:
280,148,114934,6,0,P|336:140|392:148,1,112.5,0|0,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
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148,132,115568,1,0,3:0:0:0:
324,300,115779,1,8,0:0:0:0:
276,176,115990,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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40,0,116624,5,2,0:0:0:0:
40,11,116835,1,0,3:0:0:0:
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40,332,117469,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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104,196,118103,1,2,0:0:0:0:
380,296,118314,6,0,P|432:304|496:292,1,112.5,0|0,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
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299,29,124441,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,356,126448,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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137,145,129512,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,94,129617,2,0,L|120:32,1,56.25,0|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
26,210,129828,1,2,0:0:0:0:
28,224,129934,2,0,L|31:286,1,56.25,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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345,318,130462,1,0,0:0:0:0:
394,346,130568,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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420,212,130990,2,0,P|392:264|344:296,1,112.5,0|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,256,131307,1,0,1:0:0:0:
224,264,131413,2,0,L|160:260,1,56.25,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,192,131624,2,0,L|92:192,1,56.25,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,120,131835,5,0,1:0:0:0:
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328,155,132047,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,146,132152,1,0,0:0:0:0:
434,121,132258,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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200,36,132997,1,0,1:0:0:0:
200,36,133103,2,0,P|172:48|148:80,1,56.25,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,220,133314,2,0,P|255:189|239:152,1,56.25,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,272,133526,5,0,1:0:0:0:
111,326,133631,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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206,372,133842,1,0,0:0:0:0:
255,348,133948,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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104,48,134688,1,0,1:0:0:0:
72,56,134793,2,0,L|12:52,1,56.25,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,16,135005,2,0,L|316:12,1,56.25,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,260,135216,5,6,0:0:0:0:

à propos des 3ms sur les 2 hitsounds, c'est pas vraiment important vu que les RC disent qu'il faut grand max 5ms. J'ai quand même fix pour le principe
les 2 hitsound en question

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,956 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

Pachiru 2017-03-12T11:55:44+00:00

12/03/2017

Fixed Kin's diff, with the help of P A N, Toshino Kyoko & Alheak.
Updated "normal-hitnormal" & "soft-hitclap" due to a small lag.

-Mo-

Nomination Assessment Team

957 posts

Joined December 2012

-Mo- 2017-03-12T15:15:48+00:00

-Mo-d for mod

General
- Consider enabling the epilepsy warning, since you have these white flashes all over the place.
- All hitsounds must be >100ms according to the ranking criteria, so these need to be editted:

Storyboard
- 01:10:990 - 01:17:751 - I feel that the effect.png should cycle back to the start on these beats to match the lyrics/downbeat.

Gabe's Easy
- 00:35:497 (3) - I wouldn't recommend a looping slider like this on an Easy diff since the overlapping path could confuse beginner players.
- 01:30:427 - Missing clap?
- 02:08:455 (1) - Nazi thing, I would rotate this CCW a couple of degrees so the visual flow from 4-1 looks a little neater.

Secretpipe's Normal
- rip hitsounding?
- 01:21:131 (1,2) - Minor: spacing is a little off.
- 01:31:272 (1,2) - Minor: You could make these the same shape if you wanted.
- 02:10:990 (6,1,3) - You could arrange these so that the slider tail and the two circles makes a better triangle if you wanted.

Hard
- 00:50:286 (3) - Nudge this one oe two units to the right so that the gap between 1-2-3 is about the same.
- 01:24:512 (4) - 01:27:892 (2) - 02:12:997 (4) - 02:14:688 (5) - rip hitsounding

Hyper
- 00:42:258 (6) - 00:44:371 (2) - 00:55:357 (5,1,2) - 01:35:920 (4,5) - 02:07:927 (6) - 02:12:997 (6) - 02:14:688 (6) - Hitsounds.
- 01:26:624 (2,3,4,5) - Maybe offset these in someway so it's not just a boring straight line? You can do whatever you want here.

Suggestion

- 01:58:737 (2,3,4) - This just looks odd to me for some reason, having two surved sliders facing the same way arranged like that. Maybe change slider 4 for some variety?
- 02:02:117 (1) - Doesn't need an NC I believe.

Insane
-01:06:765 (4,5) - Maybe flip these around so that 2-3-4 makes a sharper angle and the flow is more comfortable?
- 01:30:005 (2,3,4) - Hitsounds.

Kin's Solitude seems clean to me.

Apart from the hitsound issues, this set seems pretty clean to me. Good luck.

Cosmolade

1,289 posts

Joined December 2012

Cosmolade 2017-03-12T19:06:32+00:00

-Mo- wrote:
Storyboard
- 01:10:990 - 01:17:751 - I feel that the effect.png should cycle back to the start on these beats to match the lyrics/downbeat.

effect.png is a animation in base of frames, if I will do that I must remake the animation with the frames in reverse, and for match the lyrics/downbeats, its really hard to do it because the timing snaps are not consistent, but I will see what I can do :/

EDIT: I make the effect but like I said, is not totally sync, but still looks nice

Update

-Mo-

Nomination Assessment Team

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-Mo- 2017-03-13T01:16:09+00:00

Cosmolade wrote:
effect.png is a animation in base of frames, if I will do that I must remake the animation with the frames in reverse, and for match the lyrics/downbeats, its really hard to do it because the timing snaps are not consistent, but I will see what I can do :/

Instead of an animation it might be easier to just rename the files and toggle each element manually, but if you got it to work then that's fine.

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2017-03-13T13:34:02+00:00

discussed some general aspects regarding the mapset via irc :3

logs

13:20 Pachiru: Sergio o:
13:20 MrSergio: yes?
13:20 Pachiru: Are you open for requests, I checked your profile but that wasn't wrote o:
13:21 MrSergio: I usually check right away if I'm interested or not
13:21 Pachiru: Oh so it means you check without requests? (I didn't really understand ;w;)
13:22 MrSergio: I give a look at the map right away and decide whether I mod it or not
13:22 Pachiru: Oh okay o:
13:22 MrSergio: well... for mods is just whether I feel like it or no
13:22 Pachiru: You want me to send you a link then? o:
13:22 Pachiru: I see, that's normal

13:22 MrSergio: for BN checks I check quality too
13:22 MrSergio: yes
13:23 Pachiru: that's not a BN check or icon request, but more a mod about general things o:
13:23 MrSergio: let's see...
13:23 *Pachiru is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1173074 Marshmello - Alone]
13:23 MrSergio: tricky
13:23 Pachiru: I'm just reworking the hitsounds right now and that might be good owo
13:26 MrSergio: I suggest to make your hitsounding match your patterns in this case, since you have a really heavy hitsounding
13:27 MrSergio: so heavy that takes over the song
13:27 MrSergio: 02:07:610 (7,8) - stuff like this would better work with a slider instead
13:28 Pachiru: I see, so it would match with the hitsounds, right?
13:28 MrSergio: overall it is... decent I guess. Consider that I tend to evaluate harshly any map so as long s it is something generic and it works I can just say it is decent
13:28 MrSergio: yes
13:28 Pachiru: okii~
13:28 MrSergio: I would have personally tried to express in some particular way those strange vocals
13:28 MrSergio: it is something only this song has
13:28 MrSergio: you usually don't find it on other songs
13:29 Pachiru: erm, i think i'm getting what you wanna say owo
13:29 MrSergio: but it would become something hard to handle I suppose, since it uses a lot of un-intuitive rhythms which should be compensated with flow and spacing management
13:29 MrSergio: oh, you use piano notes too
13:30 Pachiru: the vocals are pretty hard to follow in my opinion owo
13:30 Pachiru: yes owo
13:30 Pachiru: at the begining
13:30 MrSergio: zzz... I noticed them only when I stopped the map after a note lol
13:30 MrSergio: which means that it is a bit pointless to have them
13:30 MrSergio: actually... wait
13:30 Pachiru: no problem ^^
13:30 MrSergio: ah, yeah, it is in the song
13:30 MrSergio: so those piano notes are overlapping perfectly
13:31 MrSergio: which means they don't add any additional feedback
13:31 Pachiru: so? o:
13:31 MrSergio: hitsounding usually "adds" something to the map
13:31 MrSergio: if your hitsounding doesn't add anything...
13:31 Pachiru: oh i see
13:33 MrSergio: 01:29:582 (1,2) - ah, this kind of ruins the movement
13:33 MrSergio: I mean... the general rhythm
13:33 MrSergio: it felt really good with the 1/2 rhythm, but this stands out
13:33 Pachiru: I think Kin is connected owo
13:33 Pachiru: so it means that you don't really like the 1/4 stuff? o:
13:34 MrSergio: I actually use tht a lot
13:34 MrSergio: where it fits tho
13:34 MrSergio: in that section you have that constant 1/1 clap
13:34 MrSergio: the 1/2 sliders are fine since they respect that, but the 3/4 slider is just... ?.?
13:35 MrSergio: 01:42:681 (5,6,1) - I also suggest to reduce spacing a little between these
13:35 Pachiru: i get what you say o:
13:35 Pachiru: okay o/
13:35 MrSergio: ah, wait, this is not your diff, LOL
13:35 MrSergio: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7555837
13:35 Pachiru: no xdddd
13:36 MrSergio: that fail
13:36 MrSergio: lmao
13:36 Pachiru: NP XD
13:36 MrSergio: well, last thing then
13:36 MrSergio: 01:48:174 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern is sort of boring tbh
13:36 MrSergio: rather than plain back and forth I would add some additional movement on the other axis
13:36 MrSergio: and that giant spacing... ugh
13:37 Pachiru: okay owo
13:37 Pachiru: its okay if i keep the irc log? o:
13:37 MrSergio: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7555843
13:38 MrSergio: yes
13:38 MrSergio: in that screen you add some more "feeling" to the pattern
13:39 Pachiru: the screenshot you send me looks pretty interesting ! o:
13:39 Pachiru: i'll talk with him for some changes then o:
13:39 MrSergio: he PM'd me xD
13:39 Pachiru: I think yes owo
13:44 MrSergio: let's switch to your diffs then
13:45 MrSergio: 00:14:159 (2) - notes like this make the map plain. What I mean by that is that you dilute the player's attention instead of focusing it on important things:
13:45 MrSergio: 00:13:526 (1,3) - both of these are following the synth soujnd
13:45 MrSergio: but 00:14:159 (2) - this is not
13:45 MrSergio: it's an addition you made yourself
13:46 Pachiru: You think I should remove it? o:
13:46 MrSergio: yes
13:46 Pachiru: okay~
13:46 Pachiru: so all note like this? o:
13:47 MrSergio: 00:15:216 (3) - ah, this might be a bit too slow xD
13:47 MrSergio: 00:17:540 (3) - yeah, same
13:47 MrSergio: 00:27:681 (3) - from here on it is fine
13:47 Pachiru: actually
13:47 MrSergio: since you have the drum into the song supporting it
13:47 Pachiru: the slow on the sliders is intentionnal
13:48 Pachiru: okay~
13:48 MrSergio: well, more than drum, there is an additional synth doing so, but it's the same
13:49 MrSergio: it may just me being finicky, but I get the feeling that 00:41:413 (4) - and every other similar beat ahead should have more spacing
13:49 MrSergio: or rather
13:49 MrSergio: 00:41:202 (3) - this one should have less spacing
13:50 MrSergio: it's morte a chain of events...
13:50 MrSergio: more*
13:50 MrSergio: your strong beats are not emphasized so well
13:50 Pachiru: i can reduce the spacing of the 3 if you want o:
13:50 MrSergio: you keep using constant DS for 00:41:202 (3,4,5,6) -
13:50 MrSergio: so that translates into "all beats here have the same importance" which is not true
13:50 Pachiru: but I think I'll rework this part
13:50 Pachiru: Since it's very repetitive
13:50 Pachiru: And boring :/
13:51 MrSergio: well, repetition aside, I saw that. The rest looks cool but I do agree some variation may be good
13:51 MrSergio: this part is fairly long after all
13:51 Pachiru: Yes ;w;
13:51 Pachiru: But I literally prefer my Hyper/Hard
13:51 Pachiru: Because I changed the rythm
13:52 Pachiru: it's always the same as the Insane
13:57 MrSergio: 01:54:934 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - umh... maybe it is something you didnt' consider, but structure? x)
13:58 Pachiru: what do you mean for that? o:
13:58 MrSergio: thought so xD
13:58 MrSergio: don't worry about it then
13:58 Pachiru: ;w;
13:58 Pachiru: is that important for that ? o:
13:59 MrSergio: well, it is importnat for a map to have structure
13:59 MrSergio: structure = meaning of your patterns
13:59 MrSergio: if I were to ask you specifically why is that pattern exactly like that... would you be able to answer?
13:59 Pachiru: oh
13:59 Pachiru: no
13:59 Pachiru: i made that
13:59 MrSergio: (it's just one example, this happens in the whole map)
14:00 Pachiru: because that was my first insane and i'm pretty bad at making jumps
14:00 MrSergio: lol
14:00 Pachiru: that's why that's repetitive o:
14:00 MrSergio: well... seeing your map I can feel that you understand how consistency works, but structure is more a mix of reasons and consistency
14:00 MrSergio: it's not about being repetitive
14:01 MrSergio: but rather why is 01:54:934 (1) - where it is, why is 01:55:145 (2) - where it is, and so on...
14:01 Pachiru: i see
14:01 MrSergio: for example...
14:01 MrSergio: 01:54:934 (1,2,3,4) - take these and try connecting them in your mind with lines
14:01 MrSergio: what figure do they form?
14:01 MrSergio: (that's one reason)
14:02 MrSergio: in your current pattern you just have that... 01:54:934 (1,6) - and 01:55:357 (3,5) - are blankets
14:02 Pachiru: to be honest i made this like that one because in my mind that felt good with the synth, but I wanted to try something to make it less repetitive, and since the song is pretty repetitive ;;
14:02 MrSergio: apart from that the objects are pretty much there just because, right ? x)
14:02 Pachiru: some yes ^^
14:03 MrSergio: well, you should try to create more "links" between objects to stay where they are
14:03 MrSergio: wait, let me find something...
14:03 Pachiru: yes, i'm getting what you wanna say o:
14:04 MrSergio: p/5798553 scroll down to where you find the box with "explanation"
14:04 MrSergio: I tried explaining what structure is when you take one pattern alone
14:04 MrSergio: although there is also a more general structure
14:04 MrSergio: (I have a lesson on that on my userpage)
14:04 Pachiru: i'll read that owo
14:04 Pachiru: yes, i read that owo
14:05 Pachiru: i'll rework this diff
14:05 MrSergio: `/np
14:05 MrSergio: ops
14:05 *MrSergio is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1188748 Marshmello - Alone [Hyper]]
14:06 Pachiru: to make this more logic with the song
14:06 MrSergio: this is a Hard, you know o.o
14:06 Pachiru: because i agree with you
14:06 Pachiru: this diff is quite random
14:06 Pachiru: i mean on the placements
14:06 MrSergio: 01:24:300 (5,6,1) - maybe avoid this intense rhythm in the calmer parts of the song xD
14:06 MrSergio: a repeat slider or just a 1/2 slider should work anyway
14:06 Pachiru: i'll change it into a 1/2 slider

14:07 MrSergio: ok no, the 1/2 salider is a bad idea
14:07 Pachiru: o:
14:07 MrSergio: the repeat slider works
14:07 MrSergio: I mean, 1/4 repeat slider *
14:08 MrSergio: I was tempted to suggest a 1/4 slider + circle, but that sounds too complex for a Hard
14:08 Pachiru: Yes sure, I put that here

14:08 MrSergio: and too dense for the section
14:08 Pachiru: I rename it as Hard then?

14:08 MrSergio: I have to check the current HArd yet, but seeing this diff I can say this one is a Hard
14:08 Pachiru: okay ^^
14:09 MrSergio: 02:02:962 (3,4,5,6,1) - ok, maybe not so Hard xD
14:09 MrSergio: the rest is fine tho
14:09 Pachiru: should I nerf this o:
14:09 Pachiru: (like dva)
14:09 MrSergio: yea
14:10 Pachiru: 2 1/4 slider is good?
14:10 MrSergio: surely better
14:10 Pachiru: okay

14:10 MrSergio: may be a bit confusing tho, so make sure they aren't too cramped
14:11 Pachiru: okay

14:11 Pachiru: i made this quite spaced
14:11 Pachiru: so it will be able to read it perfectly
14:11 Pachiru: 02:02:857 -
14:12 Pachiru: oops o:
14:12 Pachiru: https://puu.sh/uGUIL/867504864b.png
14:12 Pachiru: like this o:
14:12 MrSergio: well, you should connect them somehow tho xD
14:12 MrSergio: that way it may be like a 1/2 snap ahahaha
14:12 Pachiru: yes xd
14:12 Pachiru: i just realized while watching the screenshot XD
14:13 MrSergio: well... after checking the Hard I can say you could keep both as they are, but you should try to use shorter chains of 1/2 beats on the Hard
14:13 MrSergio: 00:43:103 (2,3,4,5,1) - like this... too long
14:14 MrSergio: 00:48:174 (2,3,4,5,1) - same
14:14 MrSergio: 00:56:624 (2,3,4,5,1) - ^
14:14 MrSergio: instead of a beat, try adding a 1/1 break instead
14:14 MrSergio: it would really improve the rhythm too
14:15 Pachiru: oh
14:15 Pachiru: you mean
14:15 MrSergio: umh... like...
14:15 Pachiru: soemthing like it
14:15 MrSergio: 00:56:624 - 1/1 slider
14:15 MrSergio: 00:57:258 - circle
14:15 MrSergio: and that works
14:15 Pachiru: Oh I see o/
14:15 MrSergio: that way it feels less intense and more "on average" with the rest of the map
14:16 Pachiru: did the aesthetics is good actually ?
14:16 MrSergio: they are clean, yeah
14:17 Pachiru: nice!
14:17 Pachiru: so I'll change the stuff in the hard
14:17 Pachiru: and then that will be good for it? o:
14:17 MrSergio: I suppose so
14:17 MrSergio: it depends on how it gets changed, obviously xD
14:17 Pachiru: oki
14:17 Pachiru: or
14:17 MrSergio: some modding would be good too
14:17 MrSergio: I just went over big things but there are small details
14:18 MrSergio: a
14:18 MrSergio: 02:07:610 (4,5,6) - please xD
14:18 Pachiru: why not doing like the two other i made o:
14:18 MrSergio: 02:07:927 (5) - just slider works way better
14:19 Pachiru: just owo
14:19 MrSergio: 00:28:737 (3,4,5,6) - I sort of hate what Secretpipe did here
14:19 Pachiru: changed owo
14:19 MrSergio: since those are just random 1/1 notes based on nothing
14:20 Pachiru: you want me to remove it?
14:20 Pachiru: since i fix his diff
14:20 MrSergio: piano could have been mapped better by adding breaks: 00:29:159 (4,5) - delete
14:20 MrSergio: nah, let him manage his stuff
14:20 MrSergio: it's his diff and changing rhythm requires some note re-arrangement too
14:21 Pachiru: oh
14:21 Pachiru: but he wants me to change it for him
14:21 MrSergio: o.O
14:21 Pachiru: to make changes on his diffs
14:21 MrSergio: well, I find this diff boring overall due to the constant 1/1 rhythm it provides
14:21 Pachiru: okay
14:21 MrSergio: it feels like one of those diffs done "just because"
14:22 Pachiru: (he kinda speedmapped it)
14:22 MrSergio: I could probably map the same thing if I were to turn off music, lol
14:22 Pachiru: he made it in 1 hour when he cames home so...
14:22 MrSergio: well, whether it took him 1 hour or 1 week doesn't matter to me tbh x)
14:23 MrSergio: I personally find this sort of rhythm dull and not appropriate for the song, although it is true it has a constant rhythm
14:23 MrSergio: but there are small details that he ignored completely which would have made the map way better
14:23 Pachiru: i'll talk about it with him
14:23 MrSergio: the total lack of breaks is an example of that
14:23 MrSergio: "contrast" is something that this diff is missing, basically
14:24 MrSergio: it's a way to emphasize important sounds
14:24 MrSergio: you put a break on un-important sounds, that way the mapped sounds stand out more
14:24 Pachiru: I see
14:24 Pachiru: But if he does like that
14:24 Pachiru: The map wouldn't feel empty ? D:
14:24 MrSergio: and you can obviously understand that always having a constant 1/1 rhythm is just plain
14:24 MrSergio: no
14:25 MrSergio: it would gain expression
14:25 MrSergio: if done well, obviously
14:25 Pachiru: oki
14:25 MrSergio: on Normal diffs you can actually make up for some rhythm lack with flow
14:25 MrSergio: but it's again a bit hard to manage if you don't know what you're doing
14:26 MrSergio: example of what I mean:
14:26 *MrSergio is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1156885 Qrispy Joybox - Sorairo concerto]
14:26 Pachiru: i'll talk with him about it, and i'll rework all my diffs
14:26 MrSergio: Gabe's diff is already something good by seeing the first 20 secs, lol
14:26 Pachiru: Gabe is good

14:27 MrSergio: yeah
14:27 MrSergio: in fact, the Easy might be good as it is tbh
14:27 MrSergio: I don't like nitpicking that much anyway
14:28 Pachiru: nitpicking?
14:28 MrSergio: 02:01:695 (1,2) - this, this is great
14:28 MrSergio: yeah, it means "trying to find small details"
14:28 MrSergio: take that rhythm I linked above and you'll see how he added contrast
14:29 MrSergio: 02:01:695 (1) - from here the song has a sound that it wasn't used before
14:29 MrSergio: that is un-important for the rhythm he was following before with hism ap, therefore he skipped it
14:29 MrSergio: that break is gold
14:29 MrSergio: that's something Secretpipe didn't do tho and that's why his diff is plain
14:29 Pachiru: I see owo
14:30 MrSergio: it's not bad, but it's not good either
14:30 Pachiru: So Gabe's diff is good owo?
14:30 MrSergio: yes
14:30 MrSergio: nothing big to mention from me
14:30 Pachiru: Okay, that's at least a good point on this mapset xD
14:30 MrSergio: I can't obviously check taiko appropriately so that's it
14:30 Pachiru: No problem

14:30 Pachiru: I've a BN for this

14:31 MrSergio: but the gap between Isolation and Oni is too huge x)
14:31 Pachiru: yes
14:31 Pachiru: but it will be changed
14:31 Pachiru: it's just because Chromoxx
14:31 MrSergio: I hope so xD
14:31 Pachiru: OVEEEERMAPED
14:31 Pachiru: and but 1/8
14:31 Pachiru: :facepalm:
14:31 MrSergio: LOL
14:31 MrSergio: what the... xD
14:31 Pachiru: on the kiai
14:31 Pachiru: that's why it got 7*
14:31 MrSergio:

k_hand:
14:32 Pachiru: XDD
14:32 MrSergio: anyway, I guess that's it
14:32 Pachiru: okay!
14:32 MrSergio: sorry if I didn't go in details, but modders can make up for that I suppose
14:32 Pachiru: so it's okay if i call you for having an opinion once my insane if reworked? o:
14:32 Pachiru: sure thing, don't worry about that

14:32 MrSergio: why not
14:32 Pachiru: that's already very kind from you to help

14:33 Pachiru: thanks a lot

14:33 MrSergio: =w=b

Spork Lover

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Spork Lover 2017-03-13T14:33:39+00:00

Yo, ticket from earlier :3 I was told that Pachiru is reworking parts of the insane diff, so I won't be modding that

I'm gonna abide to the new guidelines in this mod to learn them well for the next BN test in like 4 months or whenever lol, just so you're all aware!

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General

The keysounding in the beginning (00:13:526 - to 00:27:047 - ) without any other type of feedback isn't really too good for gameplay - I can barely even hear the keysounding because it blends in with the music. There's hitnormal support obviously, but I don't know if you'd be able to add in a very quiet finish on parts like 00:13:526 - as well xd (It's probably just me being buyist towards keysounding regarding feedback but yeah

)

AiMod points out that an epilepsy warning is needed. I agree with it (; The strobe at the kiai start and the flashing lights in the beginning might be enough.

Gabe's Easy

00:20:286 (1,2,3) - I find these two sliders to look kinda weird together - A curve decrease on the first slider would do wonders I feel like (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7555982)
00:25:357 (3,1) - The blanket these two sliders do could be cleaner, would look a little more appealing

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7555937
00:35:497 (3) - Isn't this slider pretty weird for a new player? I'm thinking about the new guidelines towards easy difficulties. The guideline reads "Use straightforward and easily understandable slider shapes". A slider shape that is easy to understand would be something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556002 (it's hard to give suggestions to something I normally don't map, don't scold me aaa >//<)
00:40:568 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - This is only sliders. A new guideline also states, "Avoid slider-only sections. Aiming and following a lot of sliders in a row can be tiring for new players. In such cases, circles and rest moments without hitobjects to click or follow should be used." Because of this, I would add a few single taps somewhere in this section, so it's not too much for the new players to follow
01:00:850 (1) - maybe like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556032 You used this shape before earlier on in the song, so using it again could be nice for aesthetics :3
01:04:230 (1,2,3) - same shape twice maybe and then (3) in the same location? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556037 and https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556041
01:30:427 - Hitsounds missing on this sliderend
01:36:343 (3) - If you remember the slider-only suggestion from earlier, that could be used here too, since you have a sliderend on the downbeat (big white tick) here, which I think should be clickable. You could remove the reverse arrow and add a single tap on 01:38:033 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556055 I would probably consider making it a bit different from mine, but yeah

02:00:005 -

downbeat clickable maybe? (single tap + slider could be good)
02:15:216 - same applies to this but it's not as important here 'cause it's the last slider

Secretpipe's Normal

Hitsounds required.
01:06:765 (5) - For consistency with 01:05:075 (2,3) - two single taps instead for the reverse or a reverse for 2,3?
01:39:300 (3) - You havn't ignored a clickable downbeat with a 1/1 slider up untill now iirc - Maybe make the downbeat here clickable?
01:58:314 (4) - Inconsistent timeline-wise with how you did it at 01:53:244 (3) - and 01:49:864 (4) - . The reverse i talked about first should probably be on 01:57:469 -

Hard

00:49:019 (1,2,3) - They seem to be pretty cramped visually - I'd probably seperate them in some way, can't come up with something from the top of my head though

00:54:089 (1,2,3) - It's better for these, they to follow those.
01:24:512 - hitsound where you goooo
01:27:892 - I'd add one here too, there's nothing in the music that says that there shouldn't be one at least, it sounds underwhelming this way xd
02:01:695 (1) - Even as a 3-digit player I find that to be really mean, considering you havn't used 5-way reverses before this one, and you use reverses a lot ^^ I'd advice using a 1/2 slider + a 3-way reverse instead. (You do this suggestion on the Hyper)

Hyper

00:42:258 - Whistle + NC, i think you forgot ;o
00:44:582 - Whistle
00:55:145 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - A lot of hitsounds missing here
01:35:920 (4) - hitsound on this note?
01:36:765 (7) - ctrl+g for consistency with 01:34:652 (1,2,3) - ?
01:37:610 (1,2,3,4) - I only see this once in your map apart from 02:02:962 (3,4,5,6) - , don't really understand why that first one is there. I find it even weirder, because all of those sliders 01:41:413 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - are passive rhythms, and not clickable ones. I'd probably make the 4 notes of the stream into a 4-way reverse instead

like the passive ones, or I'd make a 4-note stream in the beginning of the 2 sections with the sliders ^^
01:55:990 (4) - ctrl+g gives a jump to 01:56:624 (1) - like you did on stuff like 01:58:103 (5,1) -
01:58:737 (2) - This slider isn't really leading to the 3, and looks kinda out of place this way xD I moved the slider before and the 2 after as well: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556225 and https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556232
02:00:850 (5,6,7) - I wouldn't make this linear after a 6-note jump part. ctrl+g'ing 7 works
02:01:695 (1,1) - hmm, maybe remove NC on the 2nd slider? I know it's a special part, but the rhythm isn't too different here.

Kin's Solitude

00:16:906 (1,2,3) - this compared to 00:13:526 (1,2,3) - is way too different spacing wise, considering the music is the exact same here. I'd also just generally consider making the difficulty more calm in the beginning here untill 00:27:047 -
00:16:483 (4,1) - Pretty crazy spacing - It might be 1/1, but the song doesn't support a screen jump. (It's also inconsistent with the spacing you use on stuff like 00:23:244 (4,1) - for example)
00:24:934 (4,1) - You didn't do this type of overlap up untill now, making the aesthetic itself obsolete. If you added that overlap consistently in other places in the beginning, it would have a much better impact overall.
00:35:075 (4,5) - Inconsistent spacing wise with 00:31:695 (4,5) - and 00:28:314 (5,6) - and the music is the same. I'd consider actually making the two large spacings smaller, 'cause I do feel it's still too much for this part.
00:34:230 (2,3,4) - To me, the flow here is a little iffy - I'd find it better if the flow rotation changed on the downbeat rather than on the (3), so doing something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556289 would allow the clockwise rotation to continue for a bit (my suggestion is really unpolished, you can probably come up with something better here.)
00:57:047 (7,8) - I would probably put the 8 on a spot like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556306 instead because you're basically adding "square" flow to a map that didn't use square flow up untill now xd.
01:03:807 (7,1) - I feel like this is a liiittle too much spacing, I would decrease it a tiny bit.
01:26:624 (2,3,5,7) - The structure is quite iffy here - I'd suggest something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556328 (If you dislike those polygonal shapes, something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556335 might work too to add an overlap or something

01:29:159 (4,1) - Two things: 1: the slider is extended with a very clear red tick hitsound still present, so I would advice making the slider 1/2. 2: the overlap is weird because it overlaps the sliderend AND the sliderstart in two different ways

(and 01:30:005 (2) - actually too lol)
01:36:131 (8) - What warrants this big of a jump compared to the linear flow from earlier? xd At least reduce it to something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556353 this.
01:43:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - There has been several occasions where maps have been disqualified for using streams that were too long for the way the difficulty is up untill that stream. I'd say this applies to this difficulty too, since you don't use 16-note streams for example up untill 01:41:413 - . I'd basically just add two kick sliders on 01:44:371 (5,6,7,8) - instead.
01:48:174 (1,2,3,4) - Why do you only use this twice? There's not really any pattern sense to this if you don't re-use it imo. Since you use it in the first two measures, you could use it on 01:55:145 - and 01:56:835 - too.
Also, I'd add a bit more sliders in the parts where you use like 16 single taps in a row, since that seems a little excessive considering the way you did the start of the kiai.

I'm honestly a little scared that BN's will point out that this map is overdone when they start looking at it.
I find the beginning to be too much for how calm this song is spacing wise. The rhythm is fine overall for the song, but I'd advice adding most of the peak stuff in the last half of the song, 'cause some of the difficulty spikes actually happen in the beginning and verse with little support. I'm only saying this as a heads up, 'cause I think BN's will mention fairly similar things here. ^^

I wish you guys luck!

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Kin 2017-03-13T15:38:05+00:00

Spork Lover wrote:
Yo, ticket from earlier :3 I was told that Pachiru is reworking parts of the insane diff, so I won't be modding that I'm gonna abide to the new guidelines in this mod to learn them well for the next BN test in like 4 months or whenever lol, just so you're all aware!

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The keysounding in the beginning (00:13:526 - to 00:27:047 - ) without any other type of feedback isn't really too good for gameplay - I can barely even hear the keysounding because it blends in with the music. There's hitnormal support obviously, but I don't know if you'd be able to add in a very quiet finish on parts like 00:13:526 - as well xd (It's probably just me being buyist towards keysounding regarding feedback but yeah ) Keysound is just a plus, there's currently nothing wrong, with the map being currently keysounded

AiMod points out that an epilepsy warning is needed. I agree with it (; The strobe at the kiai start and the flashing lights in the beginning might be enough.

Kin's Solitude

00:16:906 (1,2,3) - this compared to 00:13:526 (1,2,3) - is way too different spacing wise, considering the music is the exact same here. I'd also just generally consider making the difficulty more calm in the beginning here untill 00:27:047 -
00:16:483 (4,1) - Pretty crazy spacing - It might be 1/1, but the song doesn't support a screen jump. (It's also inconsistent with the spacing you use on stuff like 00:23:244 (4,1) - for example) reduced for both case
00:24:934 (4,1) - You didn't do this type of overlap up untill now, making the aesthetic itself obsolete. If you added that overlap consistently in other places in the beginning, it would have a much better impact overall. I really can't see anything wrong with overlap here. The back & forth movement feel natural according to the melody being : E6 - F#6 - D6
00:35:075 (4,5) - Inconsistent spacing wise with 00:31:695 (4,5) - and 00:28:314 (5,6) - and the music is the same. I'd consider actually making the two large spacings smaller, 'cause I do feel it's still too much for this part. if you watch patterns closely with the melody, you should have notice, that some E6 - F#6 - E6 // E6 - F#6 - D6 use equal spacing while others have "normal" spacing+higher spacing
00:34:230 (2,3,4) - To me, the flow here is a little iffy - I'd find it better if the flow rotation changed on the downbeat rather than on the (3), so doing something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556289 would allow the clockwise rotation to continue for a bit (my suggestion is really unpolished, you can probably come up with something better here.) I'll only lose what I call flow emphasis. The changing direction on from those slider are here to emphasize the fact I'm really following the melody
00:57:047 (7,8) - I would probably put the 8 on a spot like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556306 instead because you're basically adding "square" flow to a map that didn't use square flow up untill now xd. well, it's actually a triangle flow
01:03:807 (7,1) - I feel like this is a liiittle too much spacing, I would decrease it a tiny bit. 01:02:117 (7,1) - this one is actually 0.2 bigger
01:26:624 (2,3,5,7) - The structure is quite iffy here - I'd suggest something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556328 (If you dislike those polygonal shapes, something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556335 might work too to add an overlap or something hm, it does really kill my spacing
01:29:159 (4,1) - Two things: 1: the slider is extended with a very clear red tick hitsound still present, so I would advice making the slider 1/2. 2: the overlap is weird because it overlaps the sliderend AND the sliderstart in two different ways (and 01:30:005 (2) - actually too lol) the main melody is actually a 1/1 E5 hold. You can also check it out on a sheet
01:36:131 (8) - What warrants this big of a jump compared to the linear flow from earlier? xd At least reduce it to something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556353 this. because 01:36:131 (8) - is a G5 while 01:34:652 (1,3,5) - is a D5 spam
01:43:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - There has been several occasions where maps have been disqualified for using streams that were too long for the way the difficulty is up untill that stream. I'd say this applies to this difficulty too, since you don't use 16-note streams for example up untill 01:41:413 - . I'd basically just add two kick sliders on 01:44:371 (5,6,7,8) - instead. because there's absolutely not point to use a stream in another place ? Also, the stream isn't a real difficulty spike problem according to jump & the kiai.
01:48:174 (1,2,3,4) - Why do you only use this twice? There's not really any pattern sense to this if you don't re-use it imo. Since you use it in the first two measures, you could use it on 01:55:145 - and 01:56:835 - too. because mapping the half kiai only back & forth is really boring
Also, I'd add a bit more sliders in the parts where you use like 16 single taps in a row, since that seems a little excessive considering the way you did the start of the kiai.

I'm honestly a little scared that BN's will point out that this map is overdone when they start looking at it.
I find the beginning to be too much for how calm this song is spacing wise. The rhythm is fine overall for the song, but I'd advice adding most of the peak stuff in the last half of the song, 'cause some of the difficulty spikes actually happen in the beginning and verse with little support. I'm only saying this as a heads up, 'cause I think BN's will mention fairly similar things here. ^^
there's nothing wrong about having the map difficulty of this kind :
02:03:385 - > 01:48:174 - > 01:34:652 - > 00:54:089 - > 00:40:568 - > 01:21:131 - > 00:13:526

I wish you guys luck!

to Mo : the current soft hitnormal is actually like this :

thanks for mod!

Pachiru

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Pachiru 2017-03-13T18:46:06+00:00

13/03/2017

Reworked the Insane with the suggestions of MrSergio.
Added hitsounds on Secretpipe's difficulty. (the hitsounds will be remade on Hyper, Hard & Insane difficulties)
Applied the mod of -Mo- & Spork Lover on Hyper, Hard, Secretpipe's Normal and Kin's Solitude.
Fixed Storyboard with the help of -Mo-'s mod.

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Spork Lover wrote:

Hard
00:49:019 (1,2,3) - They seem to be pretty cramped visually - I'd probably seperate them in some way, can't come up with something from the top of my head though No, to me they are looking good since they are not overlapping each other. But I still moved the '3' to the left to let a equal space between each other.
00:54:089 (1,2,3) - It's better for these, they to follow those.
01:24:512 - hitsound where you goooo In fact, I reworked this part, same as Hyper and Insane, so if there is no hitsounds, it's not an error, it's intentional, we'll gonna update hitsounds to make them good as they were before changes as soon as possible don't worry ! (I'll not answer on each hitsounds mods since you know why now
01:27:892 - I'd add one here too, there's nothing in the music that says that there shouldn't be one at least, it sounds underwhelming this way xd
02:01:695 (1) - Even as a 3-digit player I find that to be really mean, considering you havn't used 5-way reverses before this one, and you use reverses a lot ^^ I'd advice using a 1/2 slider + a 3-way reverse instead. (You do this suggestion on the Hyper) In fact, I agree with the fact that it's not predictable, but since there is a new combo, it can make the player notice about that. If there is a REAL problem, then I'll fix it definitely.

Hyper
00:42:258 - Whistle + NC, i think you forgot ;o
00:44:582 - Whistle
00:55:145 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - A lot of hitsounds missing here
01:35:920 (4) - hitsound on this note?
01:36:765 (7) - ctrl+g for consistency with 01:34:652 (1,2,3) - ? Added.
01:37:610 (1,2,3,4) - I only see this once in your map apart from 02:02:962 (3,4,5,6) - , don't really understand why that first one is there. I find it even weirder, because all of those sliders 01:41:413 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - are passive rhythms, and not clickable ones. I'd probably make the 4 notes of the stream into a 4-way reverse instead like the passive ones, or I'd make a 4-note stream in the beginning of the 2 sections with the sliders ^^ Fixed.
01:55:990 (4) - ctrl+g gives a jump to 01:56:624 (1) - like you did on stuff like 01:58:103 (5,1) - Fixed.
01:58:737 (2) - This slider isn't really leading to the 3, and looks kinda out of place this way xD I moved the slider before and the 2 after as well: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556225 and https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7556232 Indeed, I fixed it, but I didn't changed the second slider like you did. I changed into an other way, like it could flow into the next pattern.
02:00:850 (5,6,7) - I wouldn't make this linear after a 6-note jump part. ctrl+g'ing 7 works Fixed.
02:01:695 (1,1) - hmm, maybe remove NC on the 2nd slider? I know it's a special part, but the rhythm isn't too different here. Fixed on -Mo-'s mod.

-Mo- wrote:

- 00:50:286 (3) - Nudge this one oe two units to the right so that the gap between 1-2-3 is about the same. Fixed.
- 01:24:512 (4) - 01:27:892 (2) - 02:12:997 (4) - 02:14:688 (5) - rip hitsounding As I said on Spork Lover's mod, I reworked this part on Hard, Hyper and Insane, so it's normal, they'll be back as soon as possible.

Hyper
- 00:42:258 (6) - 00:44:371 (2) - 00:55:357 (5,1,2) - 01:35:920 (4,5) - 02:07:927 (6) - 02:12:997 (6) - 02:14:688 (6) - Hitsounds. Same as Hard.
- 01:26:624 (2,3,4,5) - Maybe offset these in someway so it's not just a boring straight line? You can do whatever you want here.Applied.
- 01:58:737 (2,3,4) - This just looks odd to me for some reason, having two surved sliders facing the same way arranged like that. Maybe change slider 4 for some variety? Applied.
- 02:02:117 (1) - Doesn't need an NC I believe. Fixed.

Insane
-01:06:765 (4,5) - Maybe flip these around so that 2-3-4 makes a sharper angle and the flow is more comfortable? I reworked all this part.
- 01:30:005 (2,3,4) - Hitsounds.

Thanks to everyone for the mod <3

-Mo-

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@Kin

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Every .wav file must be at least 100ms long to prevent issues with soundcards. If you want a silent/blank hitsound, then you must use a silent .wav file.

Kin

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Kin 2017-03-14T03:41:49+00:00

Oh, I misread my bad, I though you were talkin about delay.
Anyway, fixed
http://puu.sh/uHSZ4/e03c62fbc0.rar

thanks for checking back

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-03-14T10:20:56+00:00

Ah, just to make sure: the current keysounding IS a problem because of feedback. You can find my statement in the logs I provided above too iirc.

Kin

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Kin 2017-03-14T11:31:37+00:00

Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. These provide feedback for the player, and having them silent in a rhythm game doesn't make much sense. If you don't like the default sounds, then find replacements rather than silencing notes. You can use hitsounds from the Custom Hitsound Library or easily find others online. Lowering the volume of a few notes to provide a dampened effect is usually fine, but complete silence is always unacceptable. The end of a spinner (or even the entire spinner) the sliding sound of a slider, and the end of a slider can be silent, but only do it if it makes sense. Finally, you cannot silence both slider ticks and slider slides together.

It could have been a problem in a case, where it was normal-hitnormal/soft-hitnormal instead of whistle.

Chromoxx

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Chromoxx 2017-03-15T16:41:58+00:00

just answering to the mods by Aldwych and game rock:

- the OD is to force accuracy on the doublets, so that you can't cheese your way through them
- the doublets emphasize the crisp sounds in the music very nicely imo, the SR is an unfortunate side effect and removing them just for the sake of catering to a broken SR system feels kind of dumb to me, since they give the map an interesting and unique feel. This just shows again that the SR system in taiko is broken and needs to be fixed.
- 1st "change to k" suggestion: kdd fits the rythm i built here more
- 2nd "change to k" suggestion: going for the slightly longer mono 1/2 for better buildup here

xtrem3x

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xtrem3x 2017-03-15T23:12:12+00:00

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General:

Don = d
Kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K

MuzuKin-shii

6.9 - 6.9 in CS and AR ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

01:44:793 - extend slider until 01:46:483- (Of course, I understand that the vocal sound ends at the point that you put but for some reason it would be better to finish where the BG Sound ends).

Gabe the DOGni

00:32:962 (25,26) - delete .. seems unnessesary .-.

01:07:399 (39,40) - change this for (k d) ... note 40 don't have bass sound or something.

01:43:631 - is strange but add other d note here .. have an extended sound.

01:48:807 (23,24) - ctrl+g
01:50:497 (34,35) - same
01:52:188 (42,43) - same

01:53:666 (50,51,52,53) - dkd k

01:55:567 (63,64) - ctrl+g

01:57:152 - Delete this note
01:57:257 (74,75) - ctrl+g

01:58:948 (82,83) - ctrl+g
02:00:638 (4,5) - same

about last note ... are pure finish, then in finish kiai increase volume hitsound to 100% (Well, just to emphasize and leave "different" this last note)

Chromoxx Inner Oni

My mod is based in a suggestion ... But would drastically lower the level from 7.02 to 4.67, it is precisely because of a difficulty in calculating difficulty using the 1/8 spacing ... (I am aware that we have very different styles when doing beatmaps, but you know very well that the difficulty calculator on 1/8 spacing is quite irregular and clear, a 7 stars that clearly looks like a 4.5 if it would be an abysmal gift of pps)
- We need a dialogue with QAT's about this situation because I have a similar case on this collab map (02:52:730- to 03:05:881- )

2 stars (-w-)/**

Chromoxx

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Chromoxx 2017-03-15T23:22:39+00:00

@xtrem3x: i like the base idea of this, since it still keeps the base feeling that i intended and would be a good compromise imo, ofc i'll map it a bit differently but i'll keep your idea in mind and try to make something. If people are fine with this i would be willing to change it. give me a few hours to finish this since i'm doing some other stuff atm but i'll get back on this, thanks for your feedback

Kin

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Kin 2017-03-15T23:29:03+00:00

since the snare spam end on this blue tick, I still prefer the way it is (I didn't even knew, the vocal was also on blue tick lol)
thanks for checking!

P A N

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P A N 2017-03-16T10:59:08+00:00

eh I listen to the song but i found clap on 01:30:005 (2) and 01:30:216 (3) 's tail is missing

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